“I Can’t WAIT To Be Invaded!” Bassem Youssef vs Daniella Weiss On Israel-Gaza | Ft. Prof Marandi
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The interview presents a critical examination of Benjamin Netanyahu’s political legacy and Israel’s policies, particularly regarding the Palestinian territories, settler violence, and international reputation. While some hail Netanyahu as a global strategist who has countered threats from Iran and radical Islam, others argue that his leadership is tied to systemic violence, including the expansion of illegal settlements and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Critics highlight that Israeli actions—such as the settlement movement in Gaza and the use of terror tactics—align with ethno-supremacist ideologies and contradict international norms. The discussion also challenges the legitimacy of Israel’s claim to ancestral lands, emphasizing that its policies have led to widespread suffering and displacement. Guests point to historical and contemporary parallels, such as the treatment of dissidents through rape and torture, to argue that Israel’s actions amount to a form of state-sponsored genocide. There is strong criticism that the Israeli political system, including Netanyahu’s current position, is unaccountable and morally bankrupt, especially in the face of global opposition. The debate also touches on media manipulation, noting how narratives are selectively framed to justify Israeli actions while suppressing alternative viewpoints. Ultimately, the conversation concludes that Zionism is not universally supported within Judaism and that a significant portion of the global Jewish community rejects its violent, exclusionary foundations. The discussion calls for a reevaluation of Israel’s role in the Middle East, urging both moral accountability and a shift toward inclusive, human rights-based policies.
I'm actually quite honored to be in this interview. I have been a huge fan of Daniela for a very long time. The glow in her eyes as she is celebrating, manifesting her dreams of the bodies of the Palestinians. Well, I am amazed that this angle of support, these grains of sand are the things that are dear to the gauzeans. I want my homeland to be inhabited by Jews. Yes, yes, yes, yes, true to me, she is the best way to cope with enemy is to take what is dear to the enemy. I'm just amazed. I can't wait to be invaded. Nonces, take care of yourself, Iranians, develop your country instead of spreading heaven in Iraq. In Syria, as you did, in Lebanon, in Yemen, in Gaza, wherever you go, you spread heaven and destruction. Benjamin Netanyahu is fighting for his political life as the Israeli opposition plots to remove him for good. He may yet survive as he has done so many times before. But if this really is the end of the longest serving Prime Minister in Israel's history, his legacy will be debated for as long as he served. A man once known as Mr. Security is widely blamed for security failures on October 7th. His great powers are survival, and now clouded by the corruption, bribery, and fraud charges he's fought so hard to evade. Many also believe that history will record him as a war criminal, who is directly responsible for death and destruction on an unprecedented scale. Today we ask two big questions. What should Netanyahu's legacy be? And what happens next with the Iran War, with Gaza, with settler violence, and with Israel's plummeting global reputation? Do you want me to discuss all this? Is really scholar, an IDF intelligence veteran, Dr. Mordecai Kedra, the author of Anti-Zionism, a Jewish history, Benjamin Moser, and Professor at Taran University, Professor Muhammad Miranda. Well, welcome to all three of you. And Dr. Kedra, we've been struggling on this show in the last 24 hours to get people to come on, and loudly and proudly defend Benjamin Netanyahu. And I've been really struck by that. You, I believe, are happy to do that. Why are so many people beginning to turn on him? Notwithstanding the fact he still may survive? No doubt. The man had some mistakes here and there. But what people see that in the whole Israeli political arena, there is nobody better, especially somebody who can convince other countries to save their own states with the Israelis and included from the big Satan, which is Iran. And Netanyahu, actually, this might be his legacy. The constant fight, he is for more than 20 years. He tries to shake the world in the public arenas, in the United Nations, in Congresses, in many other places. He tries to convince the world that the real problem of the world is Iran, especially if Iran gets nuclear. Thank God there are some people in the world who understand it, because, you know, the missiles, which the Iranians are producing, reach London already. So, what exactly do they plan with nuclear weapons on these missiles? Okay, this might be his legacy to the world. Save yourself from the radical Islam, and present it, and armed by Iran. Not only this, also their partners. Qatar, for example, which buys everything, which doesn't move, also in London, many, many other places. Buies universities, buys politicians, buys media outlets. And this is the capital. Iran and Qatar are actually buying the world in order to destroy it and to turn it into Islamic world. We know it, they write it, not in English, they write it in Arabic. But whoever understands the mindset of these two countries understands very well their plan. Netanyahu is apparently the one leader who is leading their global, hopefully global campaign against this Islamism projected by Iran and Qatar. Okay, Benjamin Mosi, you were pulling a number of faces as you had just seen to that. So, I'll let you respond first. I just learned that Iranians are speaking Arabic all of a sudden. This is interesting, but I think that these are the lines we've been hearing year after year after year. We're focusing on this person and on this politician, and I think out of respect for our viewers, we should say that when we're talking about this election and we're talking about this choice, we're not speaking about a legitimate election in a democratic country. We're talking about a election. It's true, there's an election. There were also elections in apartheid South Africa. There were elections in French Algeria. There were even elections in the Confederate States of America, but I don't think that for modern people we would consider any of those to be legitimate elections. We have seen this figure be talked about, and it's funny that you can't find anyone to advocate for him, because in fact, a great number of people in the Israeli public do support him, and they support him quite, quite vehemently. And the others don't really like him personally, but they are agreed, united on three main goals. First of all, Jewish supremacy that they enshrined in the nation-state law in 2018. They're absolutely supportive of the genocide and of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. And, as the professor mentioned, they're very much united on carrying out yet another insane attack on Iran. So we're dealing with something that is quite hard to speak about rationally in the terms of normal modern people. We're talking about really who's going to run the concentration camps. Who's the best capo? We're talking about who might, you know, you might even say who's which inmates should run the asylum. And so I think that when we're talking about Israel today, we're not talking about a rational place. I'm speaking from a Jewish perspective. We're talking about a state that covers the Jewish people with shame at its criminality and its genocide. And we're talking about something that cannot be reformed from within. Okay, Professor Morandi too, incredibly different views there of, well, I'll come back to Dr. Kiddah, but let me bring in Professor Morandi because, you know, Dr. Kiddah, I made it clear that Benjamin Netanyahu's legacy will be the way he took on Iran and neutralized the nuclear threat from the Iranian regime. What's your response to him? Well, Piers, I don't engage with the Zionists from occupied Palestine. And I should have said this to your producer beforehand. So I'll respond to you and your other guests. Your Zionists from Palestine, he once said that Jerusalem belongs to the Jews, period. And that, of course, is an anti-Semite statement. He's from Poland, he's mother tongue is Yiddish, and he's an Ashkenazi Jew, and the Palestinians, of course, in Jerusalem or in Al-Photz or Semites. So he is an anti-Semite. But in any case, what is important for the world and for our region is that Zionism be dismantled. Just like, as your previous guest rightly said, a apartheid was dismantled in South Africa. And that is the only acceptable model where the indigenous Palestinians are treated as equal human beings. And fortunately, we see in more recent polls in the United States, among young Jewish Americans, almost half of them believe that in Palestine, Jews and Palestinians must live side by side as equal human beings. So Zionism obviously does not represent Judaism, as the youth in the United States as Jewish youth in the United States clearly indicate. Okay, Dr. Kedai, I mean, how do you respond to the charge that you're an anti-Semite? First of all, I keep myself from laughing. Secondly, look, Arabs keep saying that they're not they are Semites, so how can they be anti-Semites? So I say they hate the Jews. Now, Mr. Marandi speaks about Israel. I don't remember how many thousands you regime killed in the streets in January, as January. 50,000, 60,000, 70,000. Recently, a week ago, another girl was hung up in, in your country, only because she doesn't like the regime. And how many Iranians were butchered by the Khalkhali Court system in the 80s even Ahmadinejad was a martyr.
the men with thousands bullets, because what he did to the victims of the halhali courts in the early 80s. This Iran is a country which doesn't mercy its own citizens. So what do you think? How would they treat Wazi Arabs? How they treat the courts? How they treat the Azerbaijanis? How do they treat the Turkmens? And the Maluchis, and the Louries, and the Kashkais, and all the nations in Iran, Iran is not a nation. Iran is a dictatorship of the Persians who impose themselves on everybody else. There are like 80 ethnic groups in Iran. And this is artificial state. And what will happen with Iran is exactly what happened with the Soviet Union, with Yugoslavia, with Czechoslovakia. Its fake is to be dismantled, is to be shattered to pieces as it should have been from the beginning. The Persian hegemony should end, because this hegemony costs the lives of thousands, many thousands of Iranians. And he's talking about us who live on our forefathers land. Jerusalem was the Jewish capital 3000 years ago, when your forefathers were drinking wine, when they were eating pork, and stealing the dollars alive, water, banana, and worshipping idols and idolaces. This is when Jerusalem was the Jewish capital of the David and Solomon, King David and Solomon, which you recognize the existence. So let me with those nonsense, take care of yourself, Iranians, develop your country instead of spreading havoc in Iraq, in Syria as you did, in Lebanon, in Yemen, in Gaza, wherever you go, you spread havoc and destruction. We defend ourselves, Israel is a country which defends its citizens, both Arabs and Jews. In October 7, Arabs were putchered by Hamas. And you defend them, you give them money, you give them weapons, you train them in Iran, and you defend this outrageous behavior of your regime, which can be only compared to North Korea. This is the only thing which the Iranian regime can be compared to. And this is the reality. Whatever you say, whatever you claim is nothing. This is the reality, especially after what happened in January 8th and 9th January, where dozens of thousands of Iranian-earsent Iranians wanted to change, want democracy, want human rights, want women's rights. How can you beat women in the streets if they go on door with a chador, with a hijab on their head? And you are daring to speak to the world, be ashamed of yourself for your country which bought shame on Islam. Is this Islamic, and it's called the Islamic Republic of Iran, killing masses in the streets is the Islamic way how to treat with people who don't like you. Is this the way? As someone who spent years editing a national newspaper, I know how a headline gets ripped. More importantly, I know what gets left out. Add an algorithm feeding you one version of the world, and you end up in an echo chain. That's not the unsensitive way, and that's why I use ground news. 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You go to ground.use/is or scan the QR code of 40% of unlimited access with the same vantage plan that I use, because you shouldn't have to rely on somebody else's version of the truth. Let me bring Benjamin Moser in. I've not had a situation where one guest has been talking very passionately and dramatically about very serious matters where the other two guests have had massive smirks on their faces. And it was a weird thing to watch, to be honest, Benjamin. But what was it you were smoking about? Well, I don't think I was smoking. I was actually laughing because I'm wondering who this tirade is intended for. Nobody believes this. Nobody believes that Iran is the people killing people in Gaza. Nobody believes that Iran is responsible for what's happened in Lebanon. And so I think that what you're seeing here is the exhaustion intellectually morally of the Zionists. What they do is they throw accusations of recently founded settler colony, Israel, which was founded in living memory, you know, after my parents were born. It's not an old thing. And Israeli ranting at an Iranian saying that his country is fake, Iran, one of the most ancient countries in the world. I mean, this is we're in. We've stepped through the looking glass here. So it's I think Professor Miranda is right. It's very hard to engage Zionists in rational discourse. They're absolutely finished. Everybody across the world and including vast segments of the Jewish world, which I am proud to represent here tonight. I'm proud to be able to say that we are not all behind this bonkers project of Zionism. And we've seen this. It doesn't work anymore. I think these people should hang up the phone and go back to stealing people's sheep. Okay, Professor Miranda. Well, okay. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll let Dr. Kada respond just to what Benjamin said. Then I'll bring Professor Miranda. Israel is not a new country just to remind you. We came back to our forefathers land after we were expelled from this without any reason. So to claim that Israel is a young country is ignoring the history, just learn something about history. That's in the deck. Where was King David? Not in Jerusalem. Where was King Solomon? Not in Jerusalem. Where were the Jewish people? Jews out from Judea, not from Britain and not from London. Jews are from Judea and Judea, you know what it says? To the south from Jerusalem. This is the reality. This is history. Read the Roman history. Read the Greek history. How they describe Jerusalem on Sabbath. Okay. So to be ignorant, you can be wherever you like. I'm not sure that it feels more than a show. You should show. You should show your ignorance about the Jewish history. Okay. Professor Miranda, you've also been chuckling away here. But you know, many people will be saying, okay, look, this Netanyahu government is very unpopular globally. Clearly not as unpopular internally in Israel because he's got a chance of remaining Prime Minister. But the Iranian regime also is very unpopular globally. So to try and have sort of any moral ascendance over Israel was strike a lot of people as being quite laughable. And yet you clearly do feel a moral superiority. Why is that? Obviously, Iran is quite popular across the global majority and the global south. And we are seeing that all the time, especially after the two wars that the Epstein coalition engaged against Iran the 12th day war last year. And then the current ongoing war. Again, I'm responding to you. I don't engage with Zionist from occupied Palestine, and it's my fault that I did not tell your producer beforehand. I assume she knew my fault. But obviously, Ashkenazi Jews are not semi, they're not from Palestine, and they have no right to the land of the Palestinian people. But your guess also once said that the only thing that deters them, meaning Palestinians who resist, is if they know that their sister or mother will be raped in the event that they are caught. This is a lie. This is a lie. This is a lie. This is on Wikipedia, which is closely controlled by the United States. And I never, I never said. And the CIA has very. I'm curious, one of your producers can look it up right now. So, if a Yiddish-speaking person from Poland has any complaints they can direct it towards Wikipedia, because apparently Wikipedia is now under the control of the Mullahs in Tehran. In any case, the key point here is that we have a. genocidal regime, that is carrying out genocide in the name of Judaism, which we all reject. We have Jews in Iran, we have a Jewish MP, we have Jewish synagogues, Israelis bombed one of them in Tehran, just like ISIS and al-Qaeda have nothing to do with Islam. And no decent Jew should be ashamed that they are anti-Zionist, they should be proud. And any Muslim who's anti-ISIS and al-Qaeda and stands up against them should be proud. But in any case, the fact is that we've been seeing an ongoing genocide for over three years. But it did not begin then. It began with the creation of this Israeli regime. Because what we're seeing in Gaza today is what happened originally in the NECPA, where the Palestinians were expelled from their homes. And of course, the people in Gaza, most of them were of the people who were expelled. In other words, most of them are not originally from Gaza. The Gaza, what was called the Gaza concentration camp by many for decades, the open air prison as many called it far before this genocide began. Most of those people went to Gaza, which was a small town because they were forced out of their homes. Those like Palestinians in Lebanon, in Syria, in Jordan, and outside in Egypt and elsewhere, they've been expelled from their homes. Many of them have the keys to their homes. As we all know, this is of course old news. But the point is that look at the language of rape, the language of rape, how it was used during the NECPA. The rape and kill women and kill others to force people out of the country. But they did it consistently. Why? Because they're ethno-supremises. Because they see the rest of humanity as subhuman. That's what the slave owners in the United States did in the Southern States, too. Because they would treat the slaves as animals. So they would rape them. They would buy them. They would sell them because they saw them as subhuman. They by the way did the same in Lebanon. When the Israeli regime invaded Lebanon in 1982 and occupied the capital of Lebanon. And back then there was no Hezbollah. Hezbollah was created as a result of that occupation. And they resisted and expelled this sinister regime. But those who were in the resistance, they were held in prison. In one of those prisons is called the Qiyam prison. And I went there and my guide, our group guide, he was a person who was lived in, who was held in this prison for years. His wife was raped in front of him so that they could get information from him. So this is systematic. This is a sickness and we've seen how they treat the prisoners. They not only do they rape the sisters and the wives and the mothers, but now they rape the men. And then when they do so, these men are celebrated. These men go on television. This is what the world is dealing with today. And the good thing is that he's been expelled. Okay. Let me bring back in Dr. Kedal because we did check, we did check the claim, Professor Morandi made that you had said this. So Harretz, and you can respond to this when I've read it to you, Harretz reported on July the 22nd, 2014, a direct quote from you, the only thing that can deter terrorists like those who kidnapped the children and killed them, is the knowledge that their sister or their mother will be raped. And that assertion they reported was made by Middle East scholar to Mordekai Kedar, at Barra Land University, about three weeks ago on an Israel radio program. It sounds very bad you were going to be saying, but that's the Middle East. What I actually said is that in the Middle East, means the Arab world around us, this is the way how to deter Saddam Hussein was doing it, even in Iran, they are doing it. They are raping relatives of dissidents who didn't say it, even though you just said you didn't say it. But you said, I mean, Dr. Kedal, you did say the anything they can deter terrorists, like those who kidnapped the children and killed them, which was obviously at the time in the Arab world and in Iran, the regimes are filming the rape of relatives of dissidents who hide somewhere in Europe or in America. And they send them the video in order to show them in exile what is being done to their relatives in Iraq, as it was at the Saddam and in Iran, under the mullahs. This is what I said. So when you want to divert what I say, you can do whatever you like. So it sounds like you did say it. And I think that if I may just jump in for a moment, Israel is a country where we saw public filmed demonstrations. You don't have to go into these sorts of conspiracy theories about the Arabs or the Iranians to say that we all saw this on our phones. People demonstrating to release prisoners, Israeli Jewish prisoners, who had been caught on film, raping male detainees. And these people were celebrated. There were rallies to defend them. And this is what Professor Morandi is saying. And I think I'm very grateful to Professor Morandi for saying what we have been saying for quite a long time, which is that Israel and Zionism does not represent Jews. We reject it. We are sick and divided. We wake up every day thinking about how is it possible that Jews could be rallying in defense of people who have been publicly filmed, raping prisoners? This is a thing that the Jews will have to reckon with for the rest of our lives. And so for anyone to come around and show his face and put his name on television, defending something like this, is something that I'm very glad that my grandparents, who were refugees from Nazi Germany, did not live to see. Mr. Moser, let me tell you, you again, you prove your ignorance. This film, which you relate to, was a forgery made by the military prosecutor for her reasons. And she was kicked out from her position, and her stuff was part, where part of this forgery were also kicked out from the office, and you repeat this nonsense, where Israel, everybody knows that this was a forgery, even those who broadcast it on Channel 12 know that this was a forgery, which was produced exactly for this, in order to- Here's rather like the last thing that this person made, you might want to ask her- No, you don't. Just a fact check this one as well. And that it was proven to be forgery? And I think that we should maybe fact check this one, everybody in the entire world saw this. Check it! Check it! It was proven to be the same thing every day, for years and years and years. Being done with our money, in our names, as Jews, I'm American, this is done with my nation's diplomatic and military support, it covers us all with shame. People should have a little more shame. Well, I wish you good luck in a country which becomes Islamic day after day, and when you look for asylum- I'm not afraid of Muslims. I'm not afraid of Muslims. I'm not afraid of anybody. I know, also. I'm not also afraid, but what you see today in France will be tomorrow in East London, will be there after this, in Holland, in Belgium, in Sweden, in all these countries which opened the gates, why, in order to accept all these Islamists, and just remind me, from where came this Amwazi guy who was slaughtering people in Iraq and Syria in ISIS, just to remind you, he came from East London. And this is- I'd like to make a point about these elections, and I think that you're making a very illustrative point that I was trying to make, which is that Israeli society is quite deranged. I mean, we are seeing a choice between two people and more people, all of whom are arguing about who is going to prosecute this genocide more vigorously. The number one issue in Israel, in this election, quote unquote, "election" from which millions of people are barred from voting because they belong not to the master race. This election, the number one issue is the economy, it's not about Palestine, it's not about Iran, it's not about anything, it's about staying comfortable, it's about carrying on prosperously while these horrible, horrible things that we all see every day, and you can say it's fake, you can say it's made up, we've all seen it with our own eyes, and Israelis are living in this bubble of delusion where they think that they can rant about how Muslims are taking us over, Muslims are killing everybody, we see who's killing everybody, we see who bombed Iran, we see who bombed Lebanon, we see who's taken over parts of Syria, we see who's ethnically cleansing the West Bank, we see what happened to Gaza, so I mean, I don't think that I think you can yell at us until your horse, you can yell at us until you're blue in the face, we've all seen this, we'll never unsee this, we are all working very vigorously to say that this is not an hour name, the great Jewish figures from the past have all denounced Zionism and this is exactly why. Okay, I'm going to give you just one more question.
to Professor Miranda. Hang on one second please, Dr. Kura. Professor Miranda, the significance of his election from the Iranian perspective. Does he really make much difference whether Netanyahu forms the government or anybody else? Well first I just would like to disagree slightly with your previous guess and that is that Jews who stand up against Zionism have nothing to be ashamed of. They are heroes. They stand up to injustice and therefore they are people who should be praised and and Zionists or any other similar groups or cults as I said like ISIS and al-Qaeda. They are the ones who should be ashamed. They and their supporters and their opponents, whatever religion or background they may have, they should be proud of themselves. For Iran it really doesn't make a difference. The chief opponent to Netanyahu is the father of the Dahia doctrine and what is that? That means that you destroy a city, you crush a city to get what you want to impose your will and so in his battle it was to destroy the southern part of the city of Beirut to crush the people, to slaughter the people, to bring the powers down upon the families in their apartment blocks and slaughter them all to impose their will on the people. So obviously there isn't any real difference between him and Netanyahu. The only difference is and this is a bit I should be careful in explaining it and that is that perhaps Netanyahu's opponent would be worse than Netanyahu in the sense that the Western media, Western elites, Western think tanks will try to whitewash the Israeli regime if he comes to power and they will blame everything on Netanyahu and his coalition for the genocide and the sniping of children and the killing of infants and who were killed in hospitals by unplugging the incubators and so on. I don't it'll be all blamed on Netanyahu or they'll try to do so. I doubt they'll have a great elusive success but that's what they will try to do. So in his sense Netanyahu remaining power makes it much makes it more difficult for the Zionist regime because its isolation will continue to grow and the opposition if they come to power they may be able to deceive segments of the public. Again, I'm doubtful of any great, any change in the mood across the globe because there's too much has happened but I think that in Iran the opposition would probably be a bit worse for that reason. Okay, we're going to leave it there. Thank you all very much indeed for your time. I appreciate it. A common complaint from supporters of the Palestinian cause is that on the very big issues, Gadi, I don't got and Benjamin Netanyahu are broadly aligned. They made different policies but in essence they are cut from the same cloth. They cannot be said about their position on the escalation in settler violence and the expansion of illegal settlements. Ironcoz condemned them Netanyahu has embraced them. The Nachala settler movement has this week begun moving families into his latest settlement named Pioneers of Gaza. It's located very close to Gaza, Eastern border and it's part of their stated goal to settle the Gaza Strip. Well, we're now joined from that settlement by the founder of the Nachala movement Daniele Weiss. Well, Daniele Weiss, welcome back to Uncensored. Thank you for inviting me for this interview. I mean, it's speaking to you from Gaza pioneers and what I see from here is actually the lights on the yellow border which is deeper into the Gaza district than the purpose of this outpost is to move to the northern part of Gaza where they used to be Beit Lahia, Beit Hanun, part of Jabalia and so on. So we are here on the way to Gaza and yesterday we got a lot of encouragement from Minister of Treasure Beetzal Esmothvich who spoke so openly and so decisively about the immediate moving from of Halutsay as a Gaza Pioneer to here to the Gaza district itself. So I'm optimistic. Yeah, the problem is, the problem is, the problem is that the aggressive expansion of illegal settlements has been partly responsible for making Israel global pariahs and you're one of the faces of this movement that think it's perfectly okay to just go and settle wherever the hell you like and if you have to deploy terrorist activities to do it, as many of the settlers have been doing, then you don't care. Well, I think you know me a little already and I know you, one interview after the other. You know that my view, now the viewers will also know that my approach is that the land of Israel belongs only to the people of Israel according to the promise of God to our patriarchs. So all that I have to do is just to repeat it and to say that this is what I believe in and this is how I act. I move from the hills of Samaria to the hills of Judea to the plains of Gaza here to fulfill the order of God to Abraham. Come. Go to the high hill, look around you, then walk through the bodies and then settle. I mean, for me, the story is very simple and justice Abraham came to a land which wasn't really without human beings and yet there were rules by which he acted and then Joshua acted and now we try to act. Those people who want to leave and here and accept Israeli sovereignty, they can stay. Those who fight, we fight them and those who do not accept his resistance. Yeah, the problem is, like I said to you, the problem, they go to other countries. The problem is, yeah, the problem is everybody knows, everybody knows what you'd like to do. Rehot, rehot, rehot. It's three meters, we can't, we can't. Sorry, I have to manage things here. Also during the interview, sorry. Yes. Okay. Now, I can hear you. How did you bow for in the election? I voted for Netanyahu and I'm so glad that he won and he's the number one leader and I'm so glad that the left thought that they will snatch the right wing parties and we had a lot of support and Netanyahu was elected and Likud is the biggest party so I'm satisfied. It's not so easy to form the government, but I'm sure that Netanyahu will have the wisdom to do it. As he did in the past, he's a great candidate. Well, in fact, his support has crashed as he know and he'll be relying on forming a coalition, perhaps with many of the Arab-Israeli parties. But let me ask you about your bigger master plan, Netanyahu. Netanyahu, is your, is your case? Is your government with Arabs? Yes. Well, he can't form a government on his own, as he does one with, well, my question is on a broader picture, is it your ambition? Yes. As one of the people that supports the expansion and settlements to eventually take over all of the West Bank and all of Gaza. Of course, I mean, Judea and Siberia were liberated in the six-day war. I was a young woman in '67 and I can tell you that it wasn't in my mind that I will ever be on the mountains overlooking Tel Aviv. I wasn't Tel Aviv area, but the attack of Egypt and Syria and Jordan on the small state of Israel changed my life, changed life for many Israelis. And since the '67, a six-day war, I'm very much involved in holding strong to the areas in the land of Israel from where enemies attacked us. I think it only makes sense that we will not. Do you support, do you support the attack as well? Let me interrupt you. The United Nations says that we are now seeing all time high levels of violence by Israeli settlers during this entire harvest season. More violence in the past two weeks than during the entire harvest season last year. Do you support the
violence by the Israeli settlers. I'm against violence, and I think that the pioneers, and the ones that I call the Hiltop youth, I think that they are the wall that protects the state of Israel, because they are courageous. They know that it's not right to limit ourselves to tiny towns, but to spread all over the area. So you do support the violence there, so you do support the violence, because you set the courageous. Because we are not Jews, are not violent, and the settlers are not violent. Actually these Israeli settlers are being violent, they are being violent, they're waging terrorism against Palestinians and their families, all over the West Bank, in an aggressive expansion of illegal settlements. And you've made it very clear, Daniela Weiss, that your biggest master plan is to get rid of all the Palestinians, out of West Banking Gaza, you say it with a smirk on your face. These young settlers are rampaging around committing acts of terrorism against Palestinians and their families. And this is why, this is why, Daniela Weiss, the rest of the world looks on in horror, and looks on at people like you, as being horrifying people that want to just eliminate all the Palestinians from their land. I want you to know that it is not because of the hilltop courageous boys and girls, it is an approach being cherished by some, by an approach that is cherished by some, that actually the return of Jews to the biblical land of Israel is not the thing that is approved by all humanity, some accepted, some don't, those who do not accept the success of the Jewish state, they invent libels against Jews, libels of all sorts, it doesn't impress me in the least because this was the root of the approach to every Jewish community, especially when we showed that we have success, and the return of Jews in the land of Israel. The truth is, the truth is, Daniela Weiss, you don't speak for Jews around the world, there are many, many, many Jews who are disgusted by what these settlers are doing, disgusted in particular by people like you who talk so brazenly of wanting to take over the West Bank and Gaza, who call the terrorist settlers courageous young boys, they're not, they're just cowardly terrorists, terrorizing people, but I want to bring in another guest now, Basem, you've been listening to this, comedian commentator, regular guest in all over the world with the other people, they're all Jews around the world, love the state of Israel and what gives them confidence wherever they are is that we have an independent, successful state. Right, Basem, you've been listening to all this, what would you like to say to Daniela Weiss? Oh, I'm actually, I'm quite honored to be in this interview, I mean, I have been a huge fan of Daniela for a very long time and I have never seen her happier. I mean, this, the glow in her eyes as she's celebrating, manifesting her dream, building her dreams of their bodies, of their Palestinians, it's just, she's quite inspiring and the thing is, I'm a huge fan of Daniela Weiss because she's honest, she doesn't quote her positions. She is a true reflection of Israeli policy, I mean, she's honest about what she wants, she's not like naftali bad net or even like the politician who wants to sugar code their position, she is honest about what she wants. I mean, I remember like one of her, my favorite quotes for her, when one of your interviews, you asked her what should we do with the Arabs and Gaza and said, well, they were voluntarily leave. I mean, we're not going to force them, we're going to enable them and encourage them. We're just not going to give them food and water and they would leave, which sounds very voluntarily for me. But my question for Daniela actually, which is actually very interesting for me, I know from your beliefs and from your interview with the Arts from 2019 and many of your interviews, you are a big supporter about the bigger dream, which is the greater land of Israel promised to you by God, of course. And this includes from the Nile to the Euphrates, I mean, you know, I'm Egyptian. So I mean, I don't know, have you seen Cairo traffic, I mean, I don't know, we can't even get to the ring road. So the fact that, like, I mean, good luck, I mean, good luck. But my question is, how are you going to do, like, what are you going to do with 110 million people in Egypt? Are you also going to tell the word, it's a land with no people, for people with no land? Because there's a lot of people. And also, what are you going to do with whoever stays in there? Like, are you going also to enable us and encourage us to leave? I mean, what are you going to do with us, I mean, I just, it is very interesting to me to know my feet and show Allah in the future. You know, with all my big dreams, I don't have a vision of how to deal with 110 million Egyptians. So my attitude towards the political situation in connection with the biblical promise is that we have a general idea of what is the promised land. And it is according to the verses of the Bible. And it evolves, it develops according to the political situation. This is why I said today, and I said time and again, that when I was a young woman, and we had a tiny state of Israel, we weren't even educated, and I can say, even unfortunately, that the birthplace of the Jewish nation is in Nablus, is in Kabul. I mean, we were educated, but in a very vague way. But once there was open and attacked from Egypt and Syria and Jordan and seven armies attacked us, I understood that I as an individual and many others that joined the settling movement, we understood that we cannot let attack happen again. From that moment, we became involved in resettling the areas which were the birthplace of the nation. The same thing is here in Gaza, we were not planning to conquer Gaza. The massacre of the 7th of October made me sit here now and speak to you and to appeal smog and say, "Attack will not happen ever again, and we will settle Gaza, we Jewish communities. Gaza is the only efficient Zionist way to prevent another attack. Should there be another attack from any other country, we will cope with it accordingly." Okay, Basem, I mean, to be fair, as you said, she is honest. She's honest about her intentions. Are you expecting her to be quoting it? Yeah. Yeah. And that's why I'm this is not a debate or anything. This is a yes and an improved class because I mean, everything you're going to give her, she's like, you know, today, yesterday we didn't think about attacking Gaza today, there's no Gaza. Yes, today, you know, we're not thinking about, you know, attacking Egypt tomorrow. Half of Egypt is gone, you know, it's the thing is, Daniel is not a fringe of society. Daniel is a good representation of how Israeli behave. And I think a lot of Israeli support, Daniel, I think the vast majority of Israelis support that vision. And I understand that and I, you know, I'm a guy who believes in people's dreams and I support you in your journey and your dream, who am I to kind of like stand between you and your journey inside the dream, but I mean, I'm also as an American taxpayer who's, you know, for me, I was actually watching this elections very closely because for me as an American citizen, it will decide who will spend my tax money on killing more children. And it is, and I want to support this because, you know, Daniela is there because of, like, they have amazing health education, I mean, the success of the Israeli nation is amazing. They have health care, they have education, they have housing, they have settling, they have killing. And all of that is bangrolled by a lot of our tax money and I am very happy to contribute to this wonderful dream of hers and I, you know, it is, it is just inspiring to see that happening and manifesting on the ground. So, you know, Netanyahu, Eisenkot, Eisenkot, it doesn't matter, you know, it's, it's all the.
And I'm actually happy. I'm very happy that Netanyahu is ahead, because if this was a clear defeat for Netanyahu, it will, we will not hear the end of the liberal West media, but oh my God, Netanyahu is gone, he's the bad guy, but there are Israelis like amazing. And I'm sure that like there's a, like in Israel, there are a lot of good peace loving Israelis. And for the five of them, I stand my regards. But you know, if like Nanyahu just shows us what the EU society is, and I support that because the definition of a moderate in Israel is the thinnest kid in fat cam. - Oh, I am a big fan, oh, I am a big fan. - Netanyahu, why do you want to say to that? - I hear you. - Well, I am amazed at this angle of support. And what I can add on this specific day that I sit here watching the lights from the area of the city of Gaza, which is still working with Gaza's there. And I think God for the fact that Netanyahu is the number one leader of Israel, the liqueur party is the biggest party, and the left that planned to smash us, the right wing parties failed. They're trying to make believe the left party, trying to make believe as if they had success. If their success means going hand in hand with Arab representatives that raised the massacre here on October 7th, then I pity them. They cannot be the government of Israel. - Okay, so the truth, Netanyahu, the truth, Netanyahu, is that, it may affect you think Bass and Musev is giving you his unrestrained support. It says a lot about you. I just don't think you quite understand what he's been doing. - No, no, no, no, I am sorry. I have to object to it. Like I think I'm a big support of Tantanyahu. And I would like to see her run to prime minister because she is honest, she is honest. She is honest and she has a vision that a lot of Israelis believe in it. And Tantanyahu to the wind and, you know, like I'm a big support, I'm just amazed. I'm just, I can't wait to be invaded by Israel. - That's an interesting way of saying things. I don't have plans of infating it. - No, but I have a question for Netanyahu. And this is a serious question. This is a question that I asked Pierce Morgan 10 days after October 7. I said, I want to put myself in the, I want to ask you a personal question. In the attack of October 7, do you know people personally who are killed or kidnapped or injured in the attack of October 7? - Of course I know. Then my personal, my condolences to you. But as someone who, I'm sure that you care for their well-being and you want their revenge and you want justice for them. As an Israeli citizen. - No, I'm not a, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I think that the best way to cope with enemy is to take what is dear to the enemy and descend here, descend, descend. This, this, this, this, that is most revenge at all. Yeah, I understand. - No, no, I suppose. - This is not revenge. This is the right answer. This is the answer. These grains of sand are the things that are dear to the cousins. And this, I take and it will be mine and I will be in it. I don't have to take revenge. I don't want to kill. I want my whole land to be inhabited by Jews. - Yes, yes, yes, screw them in shikh, but what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, my question is, as an Israeli citizen who had people, who loved ones who were affected and attacked and killed in October 7th. Don't you ever wonder why, while the attack had happened six EM, why did it take six to eight hours for Israeli helicopters and tanks to be deployed, why there are a very obvious testimonies for soldiers who said quite plainly that there were orders for standing down and not to go to their post, why does all of these reports about the animal directives and how there was like an excessive killing? So my question is, don't you ever wonder about the responsibility, especially that are very important? I mean, you are a politician and you know that there were reports that there were warnings for Netanyahu's government about the attack of October 7th from other intelligence apparatuses. I'm just asking, do you ever you guys like talk about this who come along yourself or you don't discuss this at all about like what really happened? Because like Israel is like the size of New Jersey, like a helicopter can take only 45 minutes from north to south. So I just wanna know, why did it take six to eight hours and why there was stand down orders and why nobody have actually talked to us? And also my biggest question, maybe this is for peers, why I actually use Israeli sources, things like that was played in the media many times, but never ever in the American media at all and most of the British media, nobody is talking about it so basically, like you know, Israeli snitching about themselves, but America would not snitch about it. I mean, this is like an entire different level of broke code, but like my question for you on detail, why is the do you ever wonder what happened in the six and eight hours and why there was nothing happening and despite the warnings? I speak about it a lot, I discuss it with my husband, with my children, with my grandchildren, even with my great-grandchildren, who have some of them growing, so I have a large family net and many friends and we discuss this issue a lot and we are amazing. I think that Netanyahu, in spite of all the warnings, was hesitant to attack so as not to be accused of initiating a war and I think it's a big mistake and when I was going to vote for Netanyahu, that was in my mind all the time, but hearing all the, in all these days of the propaganda against Netanyahu of the left, where then the number one goal and vision is not to have Netanyahu as Prime Minister and all the attacks on Netanyahu, I understood that with all his readiness to answer back, quickly and even when he heard the first warnings before October 7, he was hesitating about opening a war and this is a big mistake, but when I have to choose between this mistake that my leader made and the attitudes and the ideology and the vision of the left parties in general, I prefer a person whose vision is closer to my vision or my vision is closer to his. This is the idea of the great Israel, this is the idea of Jewish identity coming before the holiness of democracy. So my leader has his flaws, made big mistakes but I prefer him to those who do not identify with my vision, my ideology and my identity. Yes, my heart aches and I think it was a terrible thing. It was a terrible mistake that the 7th of October attack evolved into such a terrible tragedy, but one has to make choice and I made a choice and I'm glad that Netanyahu has the upper hand. All right, pass some final words to you. Well, you know, one of the most common discussions about, I mean, I think this would actually sum up all of the discussions about what should be the future of this, how can we do it? Like, why is it so complicated? And many of people ask me, you know, what do you think should happen? Like, you know, is it a two-state solution? Is it a one-state solution? Where would should the Israeli and I think is, I'm not a Palestinian to talk for Palestinians, I made that mistake in the past. I know, you know, telling like, oh, we should do two-state, one-state. I think is the closest thing to explain it for people is a little analogy. Imagine I am someone who has a house and a garden and a beautiful family, a large family and then someone comes inside my house, kills half of my family and then corners me and the rest of my family in a corner in the basement. And he continues to kill and rape and torture me and my family and I have to accept. But the thing is, I do not have a choice because the whole world is watching me while I've been killed and raped and tortured and he's applauding.
And the word is sponsoring, and the word is basically watching me as I die and me and my family. And I can't do anything. And if I do any kind of resistance or any kind of dispute, I will just, I will have any kind of conflict to kind of defend myself. Me and my family will be continued to be killed and tortured and raped until there is no one set for us. And then I will have to find myself somewhere else to go. So maybe this is a very short, very long answer for like maybe a final statement said that you know, I'm a Sahil Khai, I send with Israel, of course. Okay, we'll leave it there. Thank you both very much. Thank you. For a long time now, we've been racking our brains about how we can bring you even more unsensitive without making our small team work 24 hours a day instead of the current 23. With that lofty goal in mind, we are thrilled to announce the unsensitive club, it's the new home of extra content, which only you get to see. You're ready for a train. What in the hairy depths of Harry Hill is going on? It was not intrinsically nasty. Can he put a curse on you? I can't put gears on my blood, I need to vent with money. Plus every episode and exclusive insights as well as priority access to AMAs, live events and big interviews. Without me. I support the show that you love most or get the hold on. We know that you watch and listen to all of our shows for all sorts of different reasons and we've made sure there is something here for everybody. The unsensitive mission has always been to inform, educate, irritate and entertain by giving you every side of every story. Real, honest opinions, you might not find anywhere else. You may disagree with my views, some of our guests and our hosts do too, but that's the point. We're independent and nobody tells us what to say. That sounds like you, but join the club.
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Key Points:
The interview highlights deep divisions over Benjamin Netanyahu’s legacy, with some viewing him as a global defender against Iran and extremism, while others see him as responsible for security failures and ongoing Palestinian humanitarian crises.
Critics argue that Israel’s policies, including settler violence and illegal settlements, reflect ethno-supremacist ideology and have contributed to global condemnation and a deteriorating international reputation.
A central point of contention is the claim that Israeli settlers are "courageous," which critics challenge as a cover for terrorism, especially in the West Bank and Gaza, where violence and displacement are widespread.
The discussion includes allegations of systemic abuse, such as the rape of detainees and the use of fear to deter resistance, drawing parallels to historical oppression and colonialism.
The guests challenge the legitimacy of Israeli political discourse, asserting that Zionism does not represent Judaism and that global Jewish populations increasingly reject its genocidal and exclusionary practices.
A key debate centers on the historical and religious basis of Israel’s claim to land, with critics arguing that such claims ignore the presence and rights of Palestinians and the realities of displacement.
Some argue that Netanyahu’s continuation in power may prolong Israel’s isolation, while others believe his removal would not significantly alter the regime’s violent policies.
The conversation underscores the role of media and narrative control, emphasizing how selective reporting and echo chambers distort public understanding of Israel’s actions and intentions.
Summary:
The interview presents a critical examination of Benjamin Netanyahu’s political legacy and Israel’s policies, particularly regarding the Palestinian territories, settler violence, and international reputation. While some hail Netanyahu as a global strategist who has countered threats from Iran and radical Islam, others argue that his leadership is tied to systemic violence, including the expansion of illegal settlements and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Critics highlight that Israeli actions—such as the settlement movement in Gaza and the use of terror tactics—align with ethno-supremacist ideologies and contradict international norms.
The discussion also challenges the legitimacy of Israel’s claim to ancestral lands, emphasizing that its policies have led to widespread suffering and displacement. Guests point to historical and contemporary parallels, such as the treatment of dissidents through rape and torture, to argue that Israel’s actions amount to a form of state-sponsored genocide. There is strong criticism that the Israeli political system, including Netanyahu’s current position, is unaccountable and morally bankrupt, especially in the face of global opposition.
The debate also touches on media manipulation, noting how narratives are selectively framed to justify Israeli actions while suppressing alternative viewpoints. Ultimately, the conversation concludes that Zionism is not universally supported within Judaism and that a significant portion of the global Jewish community rejects its violent, exclusionary foundations. The discussion calls for a reevaluation of Israel’s role in the Middle East, urging both moral accountability and a shift toward inclusive, human rights-based policies.
FAQs
According to the interview, Netanyahu's legacy is seen as his long-standing campaign to warn the world about Iran's nuclear threat and to position Israel as a key defender against global 'Islamism,' particularly through international diplomacy and military advocacy.
The interview raises concerns about the delayed military response and internal orders to stand down following the October 7th attack, suggesting possible failures in leadership and intelligence, though no direct evidence of responsibility is provided.
Critics argue that the aggressive expansion of illegal settlements, especially in Gaza and the West Bank, constitutes ethnic cleansing and is a major factor in Israel's global condemnation and isolation.
Critics question the legitimacy of Israel's elections, suggesting they are not representative of a democratic process, pointing to exclusion of non-Jewish voters and the dominance of nationalist ideologies.
Professor Miranda argues that Israel's actions, including settler violence and displacement of Palestinians, are genocidal and morally indefensible, while Iran is criticized for internal repression, but both regimes are seen as deeply flawed and morally corrupt.
Yes, the interview references claims that Israeli settlers are publicly celebrated for acts of violence, including attacks on Palestinian families, which critics describe as terrorism and a betrayal of human rights.
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