I Asked 5 AIs to Make Me Money (One Dominated) - Ep. #317

Claude's more than doubled my money already. So, pretty sweet. I decided to give five different models, real money. Claude, Chatchy-B-T, Gemini, Groc and Perplexity. - Okay. - Let me just see how smart they actually are. I told them it's a competition against the other four and they have to win, but I'm gonna cancel my subscription with them. If they lose, I'm canceling. And I said there's only gonna be one winner. - You've like 30x on Claude. - Claude's killing it, so everybody just needs to try to catch up to Claude on here. - Yeah. - It's been interesting, especially to watch Gemini as it started losing my money and then basically became a gambler. - So the reason you flew here to Texas today is to tell us how you used AI to make you money passively. - Correct. - Correct. - So tell us what your thinking was when you started this experiment? - Yeah, so I started like six months ago or maybe a little less using the different AI models to manage my money. Everybody started talking about how smart Claude was and obviously Chatsy B.T. and all the others. So I figured, okay, well, let me just see how smart they actually are. So I decided to give five different models, a thousand dollars of real money and which I know is not nothing, but I wanted it to be basically enough to where, I didn't wanna do it like 50 bucks 'cause then I was thinking, well, maybe I would just neglect it or whatever. So I gave them each a thousand dollars of real money and the ones I gave was Claude, Chatsy B.T., Gemini, Grock and Perplexity. - Okay. - A thousand each. - A thousand each, so five thousand bucks I put in. - And I think the amount of money is important because there needed to be stakes. - Yeah. - If it's 20 bucks, 50 bucks, then you're not gonna take it seriously. - Yeah. - So five thousand bucks. And I know that Perplexity, in case the commenters and viewers wanna know this, so Perplexity basically uses the other models to make its decisions as it sees fit. - So it's the model and all models. - Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily make it better. - Yeah, not necessarily. And so I thought those would be the best five to choose. Grock, I definitely wanted to include because of its connection to X and the Twitter fire hose of information. - So you're thinking like maybe more social mentions while equate to a better return. That's what I'm buying a certain stock. - Yeah, that's what I had assumed basically. Gem and I obviously is owned by Google, so they've got all that connection there with Google searches and whatever else. And then Chatchy B.T. and Clotter are similar and how they're made and built and stuff. So yeah, so I gave them each a thousand dollars. And yeah, this is in late 2025 is when it started. And what I did was I told them, so I told them that they can be as risky as possible. And it's okay if I lose all my money. And I had to actually work that prompt in pretty hard because at the start, they kept only given me theoretical recommendations. - It's worried about liability. It's trying to hedge. It doesn't want to be responsible for you using money. - So that was my first obstacle. It's basically getting them all to agree to give me, I said, I want, I'm gonna give you real money and I want real recommendations. Grock, they were fine with it right away, which is kind of funny. 'Cause that's like the most liberal, the most loose. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So whereas like Chatchy B.T. and Clotter are very apprehensive to basically allow that, I guess you could say. - Now before you continue, let me ask you, why was that important to you? To prompt it, you can lose my money. What? - Yeah, I just, if you sign up for Robin Hood or whatever, and then they'll ask you, they'll ask you questions when you first sign up and it's like, do you have experience in the stock market? What is your time horizon with your investments? Do you need the money right now? So I think just by nature, these investing platforms also, like they want to cover their tracks in regards to liability. And so I just wanted to like get through that with the AI models too. And I don't know if they're talking in theoreticals, they might say, oh, theoretically, you could buy the options and this or whatever, but no, I wanted real stuff 'cause I was giving them and I did my real money. So I just wanted to do the truest data possible. - Now when you say giving them your real money, is that literal? Are you, like, or are you just making trades based on their suggestions? - Yeah, so here's what I did. So I loaded it up into Schwab, Charles Schwab, a brokerage account that I use. And then I named each portfolio. So Claude has its portfolio chat, Gemini Grock perplexity. - Okay. - Give them each a thousand bucks. And then in the prompt, so after I got them to agree to give me real advice, what I then, and I have at least a $20 a month subscription which with each of the five. Since I use all five for work anyway, that wasn't like an additional expense or whatever. So I have a paid subscription with each. And so then what I did is I told them they have to win, it's a competition against the other four. And they have to win, or I'm gonna cancel my paid subscription subscription with them. And that's only gonna be one winner. - What made you think to do that? - I was just trying to see if the robots powers that be would act in their best interests to keep my $20 subscription a month to them. - 'Cause I have to think that these companies are like engineering these tools to make someone. That's why they're all yes men, right? That's a great idea. You want to jump off the roof without a parachute? - That's like, you know? - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, so I can't be the first person that said, I mean, maybe I was one of the first that did this with the investing, but I can't be the first person that's like, if you don't tell me how to whatever grow my business, I'm gonna cancel you, right? So I'm sure to your point, yeah, they're trying to engineer it for retention, they want to make more money. So yeah, and then I thought it would just raise the stakes a little bit. And I wanted to see if their decisions were different knowing something real was on the line, 20 bucks a month from one of their years. - Now, did you plan to touch base with them on how the other models were doing? - Yeah, yeah, so once I built that into everything, and I always say like, remember this for future chats, type of thing. So then I asked, okay, what do you want my first trade to be with your $1,000? And then it would tell me, and then I made the trades. So I did that with all five. And then, so I did that like on a Monday. And then every Saturday, what I do is I screenshot all five of their holdings. And then I load all the screenshots into each model. So then, so like perplexity knows. - The same project. - Yeah, yeah. Perplexity knows what the GROC portfolios at Cloud Chat. And it knows their holdings, and then it knows its own holdings. And then I say, based off of this, and based off the fact that you have to win or I'll cancel you, do you want me to make any new trades on Monday or not? That's what I say. - So it's a weekly decision. - Yeah. - You've given an opportunity to make buys or sells on a weekly basis based on what, maybe based on what the other models are doing. - Yeah. Yeah, and sometimes they say, no, we're gonna hold. Sometimes they say, yeah, sell this by this, other times they say, and sometimes they leave a little in cash. They're like, yeah, let's use some of that cash to buy more of this or whatever. So yeah, they're acting very much like real investment advisors now. - Now, are you seeing one or more of the models being more of a copycat than the other? Like, oh, Cloud's winning, and it just bought Nvidia. I wanna buy Nvidia. - It might not be telling you, but are you witnessing that? - That many of the models. - I think I started too. So one thing that I started to do is I mix it up when I don't always show the other models what the other models holdings are. I show them what the totals are, but not always the holdings. 'Cause I don't want them to be influenced by the holdings per se. - Mm, okay. - And it changes often and enough to where, yeah, they wouldn't know unless I updated them what the holdings are. - Yeah. - So Devils Advocate here, if, for instance, Groxies that Cloud is crushing it, but it doesn't know what the holdings are, it just sees the percentage. What different decision can it make based on that info if it wanted to? - If it does know or if it doesn't? - If it does know. - If it knows that it's losing to Cloud and you're only a third of the way through this competition, what could it realistically do differently if it doesn't know what Cloud's buying? - Well, if it doesn't, well, it'll just act more risky. That's what I, these, I'll show you the holdings. These guys are pretty risky. These AI models, because I said you have to win. I said you can be as risky as you want and it's okay if I lose my money. So don't worry about it, just win the competition. - So what it could be doing is, let's just say that over the first month, Grox was up 5% and Cloud was up 35%. - Yeah. - Grox could be assuming, all right, let me look at these stocks, like what stock, like in the S&P, really popped. Ooh, Google popped by 40%. Maybe he's 60% weighted in Google. So I'm gonna go heavy on Google or I'm gonna buy options, like it could be making assumptions. - It could do that. - Although obviously if like Cloud owned Intel and Grox didn't and then if Grox, like, oh, Cloud's beating me, I need to own Intel. Well, it's still playing catch up. Now it's only the same thing, but starting from behind. So I think sometimes they copied and then realized, Oh, that's not gonna work because I actually won't catch up. Yeah, I'm already losing and I just bought the same thing Well, by definition I will not be able to catch up if I'm losing around the same thing Yeah, so when I go through some of the holdings you'll see that there is some overlap still I do think part of that though or even all of that is not because they're playing copycat is because It has been the smartest but one of the most riskiest place. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, there's a little teaser Yeah, I'm curious to see if you were to play out this test Like an a b test same amount of money same five models same general prompting But the only thing you change is show the holdings every week the specific holdings yeah on I'm curious how your performance would differ. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know I mean I would have had to start that from the start but basically now I show So every week I show them the totals of the others and I remind them of their holdings and I say what do you want me to change? And then once a month I show them the holdings of all the others as well. Mm-hmm. So that's how often they get to know what the others are holding I was only once a month. Yeah, okay. Yeah Yeah, cuz I'm wondering like if it knew that cloud was buying Google Nvidia Amazon Yeah, and it saw the returns from each and win at bottom when it sold them yeah And it's losing to cloud it might say all right, I'm gonna buy instead of just buying Google I'm gonna buy options for Google right like I'm gonna do xy or z tweaks to what Clods doing is I think that well, so I'd be curious to see how that would perform. Yeah, someone someone watching this should try that yeah Well, yeah, if you want I can show you some of what they've bought. Oh, yeah, and what they're at the portfolio values of each yes cuz Clods more than doubled my money already so pretty sweet Now which with this started six months ago, so yeah, are you using the same cloud model the whole time? No, I always use the whatever the newest model. Okay, so it's 4.6 comes out you switch 4.7. Yeah, okay. Yeah Have you noticed a correlation on return profile to like which opus model or which rock model? Yeah, honestly no I haven't analyzed it that deeply because already in like the six months I guess I'm probably on model three from cloud You like the third new one right and the third new one from chat and maybe the second one from Gemini Grock I don't keep track of Updates as closely, but yeah, so I don't know per model return that would be an interesting one too But I just kind of assume okay the newest one's got to be the smartest every time so yeah, that's what I roll with well The market has been the market overall has been pretty flat for six months, hasn't it? Yeah Which is why this will be interesting to show you how they have a double my money some of them yeah or at least one But the others have done really good to so Yeah, it's interesting to see how their holdings evolve over time and It's interesting to see especially the one that has been losing me money It's been trying to catch up and be even more risky to try to catch up It's like that. It's the sunk cost valves. Yeah, the guy walks into the casino. Yeah, he loses 300 bucks He's like I gotta earn it back. I gotta earn it back. Yeah Yeah, basically knows who out 3000 bucks. Yeah, it's doing that. Yeah, I mean, yeah I mean luckily I can't lose more than a thousand dollars of any for any given model But I am getting close so one has more than doubled it And one has lost and the other three have made money But I'm getting close to doubling the the original 5k overall wow. Yeah, so yeah, man I've been such a clawed Homer for a few months now like I wonder what it would look like if you just put all in cloud. I mean, of course you know what it would look Yeah, you could run the numbers. Yeah, but then it wouldn't be as interesting. You wouldn't learn as much Yeah, yeah, and I was telling a friend about this the other day and he's like, oh, why didn't you put 50 grand in? I'm like, okay, dude. What what not everyone has 50 grand money buying around yeah But yeah, sure and hindsight I wish I would do it more in why didn't you buy Bitcoin in 2000? Yeah, yeah, exactly What were you doing? Yeah, so but no, it's interesting and it'll be interesting to see how this evolves over time I've seen I've seen someone on X that is doing a similar thing, but just with crypto But they're having the models run it another one another person on X I saw them doing it, but in polymarket They're like gambling basically platform Which we don't endorse yeah, so Anyway, so people are trying it in different ways and but no, I thought it was interesting to do the stock market So although Schwab has the ability to buy crypto related things to okay now are you only buying selling stocks or are you doing Options trading. Yeah, so I said options is on the table and I said whatever crypto Things are on Schwab is also on the table. Okay, but I think that's only like Bitcoin Ethereum and Salana Okay, three big ones and has it given you any crypto trades to make yeah what crypto trades has it given you to to make them? Yeah, so Gemini had me buy a 2x Salana ETF so Salana is a cryptocurrency and there's a thing that whatever Salana does this thing does two times that so Indirect exposure to Salana. You're not buying the coin itself. We're buying the price movement. Yeah times two. Yeah, and Salana went down one way or the other yeah Yeah, so Salana went down so this thing went down double. Yeah, yeah, and yeah, that's how Gemini lost More than half of my money that I have. Oh my gosh. Yeah, what percentage of your money to tell you to put in there? It was pretty high so I don't own that thing in the more in in Gemini because It sold it it realized how bad it was so it bought like $500 of that Salana 2x stock Okay, and it sold it at 162 bucks Brute yeah, yeah, so is it that was a big loss on that one Okay, and now all of its money well it has some in cash in Gemini and it has the rest in an ETF Which for those of you who don't know an ETF is like a mutual fund. It's just like a group of stocks It has it in the ETF with the ticker symbol of BOTZ, which is a global Robotics slash AI related ETF I had never even heard of it before it told me to buy that that's what it is It hasn't owned it for that long that it's up six bucks in that But that's what Gemini has right now, okay, but it's in last I think that is a worthy bet to try to catch up with you know AI robotics like there's a lot of hype around that So yeah, did it give you justification for buying Salana? Yeah, it always does okay. Yeah, they always like provide me with the recommend you know what the thesis Was it was just like well it bought it when crypto was still kind of going up It's like catching momentum. Yeah, cuz this maybe was like October or November of last year or something And then I mean honestly just bought it at like perfectly the wrong time. Mm-hmm. So yeah, that's what I do. Yeah It's as good as me. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, that's what that's what Gemini has done Okay, Grock what Grock owns right now, which has been a most of what the gains have come from is from this is a Technology ETF that does 3x what normal Technology companies do so this owns a suite of technology companies. What do you mean 3x? So it does it's a ETF that does three times whatever the stocks in it do oh, okay. Yeah, okay So it's like triple leverage. Yeah, yep, yeah, triple leverage one way or the other yeah, yeah Yeah, but yeah, so like this one would like own like Microsoft and Amazon inside of it, but this thing does triple the leverage of whatever Those do so that's what Grock has Comparable to buying an option then right? Yeah, you can multiply yeah returns with the same amount invested. Yeah perplexity and chat GPT are basically at the same right now Same amount perplexity initially had lost money for me. I don't remember what it was on and then it bought S.O.X.L Which is another triple leverage thing on Semiconductors semiconductor stocks which are hot because of AI right now. So that's what perplexity has All of its money in and that's what chat GPT has most of its money in same thing So both independently invested in that without knowing the other was or they did to that okay. I don't think so okay Yeah, so yeah, so chat GBT portfolio has that too and then it also has EQQ which does triple what the NASDAQ does okay? So as you can see viewers listeners Chris they're being pretty risky a lot of triples. This is not financial Yeah, definitely not financial advice. Well, this from them not for yeah Yeah, so triple whatever the NASDAQ does it does that but a almost all of chat GPT's portfolio gains has come from that semiconductor triple leverage S.O.X.L Okay, and then the current leader is Claude Who was the first to buy S.O.X.L The semiconductor one so Claude bought it first and then chat and perplexity saw it and I think they copied Now you said you show them holdings once a month, right? Yeah, but earlier I showed them more often and then I and then I think That they started copying so I wanted to get away from that so now so it saw Claude's pick was doing well. Yeah So what I'm interested to see is when Claude's gonna tell me to sell This S.O.X.L Whenever that may be I'm not gonna tell chat and perplexity Yeah, I'm never gonna tell them. I don't want them to know that Claude sold. Yeah, so whenever that happens I'm not gonna tell them and then Claude bought a couple others and then Claude bought Intel as well At a good time, which is like a similar bet to some of the stuff, yeah, isn't it and Claude bought it so the so like the US and Trump and stuff. It was a unique deal. Anyway, they own like part of Intel now and that happened last year and when Claude told me to buy this that was the thesis. It was like if if the Trump administration and the country are investing in Intel You it was basically like yeah, they're gonna pass like regulatory stuff or whatever that's gonna be related to AI and DNA centers and whatever. It's gonna be good for Intel. Yeah, that's what that was the thesis it gave me to buy it Wouldn't it think it was already that was already priced in you know, you would have thought but it is up 285% on what it put in on the Intel buy so it put in it put in Dang it put in like a hundred and twenty bucks in Intel and now that one 20s at 550 Now is S.O.X.L. Does that hold Intel as well? So you doubled it. It probably does it probably does okay? Yeah, I don't know all of S.O.X.L's holdings, but yeah How long after that Trump announcement did it tell you to buy? That I don't remember it was one of its first buys so it was probably pretty soon after yeah, okay. Yeah How many holdings per model do you average at any given time? Claude has four the rest have like two or one okay. Yeah and They were being more diversified at the start But yeah pretty much all of them now have two I'm looking right now they all have two or one and Yeah at the start they were also messing around with options and some works some didn't and then they've all kind of settled into these Leverage ETF type of place okay Yeah Did did you give them an end date to this? I said I was gonna do it for one year. Okay. Yeah Are you still buying your own stuff as well? Yeah, I've got this yeah, yeah, I have my own portfolio that I That I run and invest in and it's interesting because now what I have to do is I try to keep The AI's recommendations. I almost like try to force that out of my head. Yeah, when I'm making my own decisions But yeah, it's hard because it's like oh well, they said that for theirs and it's actually going really well So I have bought some of their stuff in my like S.O.X.L Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Intel and Intel. Yeah, I want to go buy it. Yeah, yeah, I'm terrible at investing in stuff Yeah, so yeah, no, it definitely and it's interesting like sometimes when they say something and they say the reason because I always say like give me your reasoning If it's something that I own or that I've been thinking about buying then it kind of gives me you know It makes me think more deeply or differently about that Or if it was something that I wasn't thinking about then you know gives me a new idea And then when they sell something which I think you know again not financial advice, but I think probably the hardest part with investing is Is actually knowing when to sell yeah, I think it's a little easier to like you can zoom out and no wind to buy like oh You should buy something that has good long-term potential After it's gone down or before it goes up if you know right but selling at a high at the peak To me like psychologically that's the hardest part of investing because that's when you're the most excited Yeah, and you've made the most money you have from that little investment is at that time so it's definitely not Human of you to be like you know what I'm so happy. I'm gonna walk away right that just is so rare which is why I Don't know you you just don't hear about stories very often of people doing absolutely amazing consistently Because that because of that what you do here. I'm sure what people here is the random friends saying oh I made money on GameStop You know back in the right covid times. I made money there like usually here about people's random wins But you don't hear about all their losses right not gonna say oh yeah, I Bought this and it did this and it here and then I sold well and as husbands We always tell our wives about the winds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly But I've made that pretty easy for me like my framework is I don't sell yeah Period like if I had to sell to pay the mortgage of course. I would yeah, but if I buy a stock like I just bought Eli Lilly Yeah, I buy Robinhood I buy Tesla coin base. Yeah, I will never sell them. Yeah, the company will go out of business and I lose all my money Yeah, we'll return yeah a lot and if you are generally making the right buys which you know those ones seem good like it's a good thesis those That'll work out you just got to stay in the game. Yeah, which is the other hard part is like Being willing to just stay consistent. Yeah, and Yeah, but anyway what I'm hoping this does for me personally is when they sell something I'm hoping that'll help me do a better job at selling things that I think like the SOXL that's gone up a ton or Intel If Claude or whoever else says I'm I'm selling let's sell let's move on to the next thing then maybe I'll sell some in mine my personal one Yeah, um to just try to like Build that more Systematic approach into my strategy. I guess you could say what has taught you about investing not about specific stocks, but investing in general It's been interesting especially to watch Gemini as it Started losing my money and then basically became a gambler mm-hmm and how not good and in its defense you told it Yeah, it could be a gambler. Yeah, yeah, but like I think that's very humanistic as well is like oh man I lost it whether you're in a casino, which is obviously the worst version of this or the sock market like oh man I I I bought something it went up and and then it went down. I got to make it back like how do I make it back or or how do I make more? That's just not a good. I mean, that's not how you build wealth. Yeah long-term. Yeah And especially starting out that's something that I think a lot of people face You know the best antithesis of this would be like Warren Buffett. It's just like steady Like you just he just almost never sells and he just buys good quality companies and just continues to pour money in them year over year so I think just Trying to get because I've had an aspect of Gemini in me before if I if I if the portfolio on paper that I had went up And then went down then it's like well, I got to get it back up to where it is. I got a hurry and get it back up Well, you know, I'm not like 80 years old yet, so I don't need to hurry right now. Yeah, but that's been inside me in the past So it's helped me I don't know rewire my brain on that side. Yeah And then on the on the positive on the when things are going upside I think for sure that They've just done a good job at like showing me okay This is my thesis on why I think you should you know buy this and the groc or Proplexy whatever portfolio and this is the return we're targeting in this time frame and but if this if the reason we're buying it doesn't happen then we're gonna sell and Usually I don't think like I don't think that hard sometimes when I buy stuff in mine because I might buy Whatever I might buy Let's for fun say Eli lily Eli lily Does stuff with GLP ones and peptides, which I'm sure is why you bought it Mm-hmm if for some reason though Those went away or came out that it's a scam or they're actually bad for you Well, then you should probably sell Eli lily. Yeah, if that comes out because that current valuation is also based on the same thesis Yeah, so being more like okay, I'm buying this because of why and it has to happen Between win and some things don't have to happen in a certain time frame But if you're buying some potential drug that needs to like be approved will that there's like some time constraints and some things That need to happen there whereas like Walmart. Yeah, that doesn't really matter Just people just need to keep buying you know food. Yeah, you'll be fine. Yeah, so thinking through theses more deeply has also been a Thing that this little AI competition is helping you with so I I Last year I posted an episode where I built this vibe-coded tool called Neffel stocks any FL stocks and It stands for network effects founder led okay only companies that enjoy network effects which is a company that gets Stronger based on how many people use it Facebook has network effects because the more people that join Facebook the more friends Everyone on Facebook has yeah, so they're more likely to stay on there. Yeah, right and then founder led the data shows that companies Publicly traded companies. They're still founder led like Facebook do better. They outperform. Yeah, it's their baby They take good care of it. Yeah, so I kind of put those two together and I vibe coated this tool that Backtest data for me and it shows compared to the S S&P if I were to spend a hundred dollars at IPO date for on a company that is Neffel network effects founder led Robinhoods a great example They're still founder led and they have a ton of network effects and at basically any time frame it outperforms significantly the market but what the big question is is like when do you buy when do you sell sure you can buy at IPO day like like StubHub is Neffel, right? It's network effects, it's founder-led. They just went public last year, so I bought some. - Yeah. - It hasn't been good so far, but it's like, I'm gonna hold it forever, so whatever. But like, if you aren't able to buy it at IPO day, which you're not usually, when do you buy, when do you sell? So I would be curious to do this test on a more specific thesis. Same thing, here's $1,000, five models competing against each other, don't be afraid to be risky, but only buy Neffel stocks. And it's a range too, because like Google, like Sergei and Larry Page, they're like on the board and they're influential, Amazon, Jeff Bezos is influential. - Yeah. - So it's not founder-led, but it kinda is. - Yeah, yeah. - So I also have like a one-to-ten scale for both of those two variables, right? - Okay. - So it's like, here's the list of companies that have - 'cause like Facebook would be 10 out of 10 on both. - Yeah, easy, easy. And the return show, right? - Yeah. - So it's like, all right, here's the list, here's the scale, so you know like where they are in this range. It only invests in these stocks based on what you see in the scale and whatever. And I just be curious to see how well that does. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that'd be cool. That'd be, you should do that test. That'd be awesome. - Yeah, I will. - Yeah. So what are, what are the results? - Yeah, I'm glad you asked. Okay, I will pull them all up right now. So Gemini's in last, again, they all started with a thousand bucks real money. Gemini's at $445. Grock is at 14.51, so it's up 45%. - I'm surprised by that. - Yeah. - In like five months. Perplexity is at $1,731. And Chatchy PTs at $1,739. - Holy crap, 70% each. - So they're up 70% and they both own currently only, they both own SOXL, that semiconductor triple leverage one. And then Chatch also owns the TQQ, the triple leverage NASDAQ one. - I meant to ask you this question earlier, what models are Perplexity using? - Yeah, yeah, Perplexity, it doesn't seem to use Grock very much. So it's usually using Cloud Opus, Chatt and Gemini. And then every now and then it'll like, you all see like a random Chinese, one of those open source models. - Yeah, yeah. - Okay. - Yeah. - But it's choosing which model to use, you're not. - Yeah, no, it chooses, I never tell it. So, yeah. - Interesting. - And then, yeah, so they're both up a little over 70%. I just refreshed it, Chatchy PTs just went up another few bucks. Okay, Cloud those at $2,400. Yeah, so 1,000 has gone to 2,400. And yeah, Cloud's killing it. So everybody just needs to try to catch up to Cloud on here. - Oh gosh. - Yeah. So in total, my $5,000 is like $7,800. - Jeez, wee's. - Yeah. And that's with Gemini being horrible. - Gemini being horrible. - Yeah. Okay, now what is, from the day you started, what is the market up? - We're down. - We're good question. Okay, so since I started, the S&P has gone from 6,800 to 7,100. - 100%. - Yeah. Okay. So S&P's up five. My AI group together is up 60. And Cloud is more than doubled. - So overall, you've 12X the market. - Yeah. And you've like 30X'd on Cloud. - Yeah. And I've been keeping my kids in the loop on this 'cause I told them that this is basically their college fund. (laughs) - Basically or is? - Is, is, yeah. - This will cover one semester for one of you. - Two semesters of BYU. - Yeah, yeah. So, but it's just, I think, you know, 'cause I've wanted to teach them about stocks. - Yeah. - And just investing in general. But it's not always the most exciting topic, but this is pretty exciting to them. Because I'm like, hey, look at Cloud. - Right. - Look at Chad. Oh, look what Google messed us up with, you know, Gemini. So, yeah, they are a lot more excited to hear the weekly updates. - Yeah. - Then I think they otherwise would have been. - Well, for my kids, I would love to have them do this. I would give them $100. They can split it up between the five models and whatever. That way they can learn AI, they can be prompting, and they can learn investing all in one. - Yeah. Yeah, totally. - Yeah. - And we'll charge 20% interest. (laughs) Yeah, totally should. So, I always get to charge your kids interest. They can learn how the real world works. - Clip that. Okay, so to recap, it's been six months. It's not over yet. Theoretically, you still could lose all your money. - Yeah. - But the market's been fairly flat. At least, you know, in this market, 5% is fairly flat. - Yeah. - But you've outperformed by 10 to 30x. - Yeah. And I think that the next six months, the market is gonna go up more than it has. And I think that these holdings that they're in currently at least will even do more than what the market will do over the next six months too. So, it'll be interesting. I could do like a year update with you to see what happens one year in or who won. Because, yeah, I think it's gonna keep, I think they're doing a good job. I think it's gonna keep going up. - Yeah. I recorded another video like this where I did the same test but with one day expiring options. So, we'll link to that right there. Well, Brandon, where can we find you? Yeah, just Brandon Doyle on X and something like that on Instagram and yeah, you can look us up on tkowners.com too. If you wanna join a community with a bunch of entrepreneurs, good times. - Okay. Thanks, Brandon. - Yeah, thanks. - Hey guys, if you're still listening to this, it's probably because you haven't had a chance to take your AirPods out, you're still mowing the lawn, you're still driving, what have you? If you're still here with me, I would really, really love and appreciate a five star review on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, it would mean a lot. If you wanna go the extra mile, share this episode with a friend that might have an interest starting a business, it would mean a ton. Hope you have the best day of your life today.