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One nonwithdrawable reward redeemable nationwide based on sports book predictions and free-to-play sports contest availability. Varys by state terms at dkng.co/offer limited time offer. He is a part, he is a staple of Saturday mornings for college football fans from college game day. It is our good friend. Stanford Steve. What's up, man? How are you, bud? I'm good. Do you go anywhere this summer? Do we beach? A lot of it. I actually went to just north of Vermont. Took the, took the guys trip over to border first time. Did he play in? Potten? Potten. I know it. It was part of Quebec. It was flew in the Burlington, got a lay out of the land, and then drove over to border. So you went up right up to 89 right there? I believe so. We help. My French is not great, so a couple of spots just had to walk in and say, "Hey, how are you?" And they got it real fast that I didn't speak French, so they were super nice and spectacular up there. There's actually trees in this country living in Maryland and going to the beach a lot, so it's unbelievable how good it was. Yeah, Quebec is killer in some spots, in a lot of spots, so I'm glad you enjoyed it. All right, we're doing a college football preview. I'll tell you right now, it's always been the sport that the more emphatic you are, the more I think you're making a mistake, because there's so many unknowns, and with the transfer portal just being a new normal with this, there's certain things, it's hard for me to sign off on an offensive line, if I don't know, especially if I'm looking at you as, "Hey, can you win a national championship?" So there's some of these teams that I really, really like, but I'm like, I can't say, "Hey, they're going to win a national championship until I see what the old line looks like." I think Texas is a perfect example of that, especially when you think about going into last year. So I know you have your top five. Why don't you give me your top five, and then we'll start in a different area, and then kind of circle back around to where you have one and two. How's that sound? Okay. My top five, I do not have an SEC team in there, but it's Notre Dame, Indiana, Ohio State, Miami, Oregon. Okay. So one and a half ACC teams? I don't know what no people do with Notre Dame anymore. They put them in the ACC previews, which is really beneficial to the ACC, which is fine. And so your big 10 order of the top three that are, these are clearly like the three teams we have in the first tier of big 10 play, at least the same part of this. That order, again, is what? Indie, Ohio State, Oregon? Correct. Yeah, Indian on top. All right. I will hear arguments for any three of those big 10 teams being not only the best team in the big 10, but maybe even the best teams in the country. Let's go through it. Give me your concerns if we started with Ohio State. What we think are the good things, what we think are the bad things? First off, like I get it right with all the preseason stuff, and that's why I think it's so crazy when people get so mad. But it comes down to, you know, are you ranking right now? Like what you think the teams are right now, or are you trying to get a little forecasting in there? Like that's where you move your teams up. That probably aren't going to be in the top. And it's not going to be like, "Hey, see, I told you I had them there." I'm looking at it right now is what I think of the teams, my personal opinion. With Ohio State, I look at a quarter of your change on offense. I look at a guy that's been a mainstay of recruiting all those receivers in Heartline, taking off. You know, I really like Ryan Day. I think he's pretty stubborn in his ways. And I look at who he brings in Arthur Smith, who's pretty stubborn in his ways. So I just wonder about that. I'm not saying they cannot win in a national championship. They're at the top of the list for good reason. I just look at again, the idea of the national championship team, right, with Sawyer and those guys. Last year's team had to replace eight starters off that defense. And we saw what happened. The defense was better. And that's what's crazy about this is really only at Ohio State, or do they have the expectation that they could do that? So there's that again, like I'm pious, like I have them in the top three. I think they can win a national championship. But again, they got they got three at the top 11 draft picks. And those like aren't, you know, you know, plug and play defensive end. Like Arville Reese was all over the place. Downs was probably as valuable a defensive player as there wasn't a country in multiple sports. And he did it on two different teams, including as a freshman at Alabama. Like where an ARO to put him, what they were able to run behind him in front of him. I think you're going to see that shine at the next level too. But the biggest concern is the offensive line. And when I look at saying I love what he looks like now compared to last year. I thought he did look a little timid in those last couple games. Ten sacks in the last two games they gave up. They got manhandled by Indiana and Miami. And you know, the last thing in pressure will get the Oregon and what they look like the last time we saw him. I'm still scarred at being at that game. But that's, that's the concern. And then like what's crazy though is only a house they could do. You start reading. It's like, all right, yeah, saying, all right. Chris Henry's going to be the next one. And Innes is there. I don't see a big name at tight end. You know, they brought him Max Clare last year at tight end. And I've loved what I've seen from that position. What Ryan's days brought in as far as transfers there. I don't see a big name there. So I wonder about that helping on the edges with new tackles. And then like Bo Jackson, they're saying to run with the two. So they got another running back and possibly two more. So again, it's only a house Ohio State could do. It's, it's my new. But it's different. And I think the guys that they lost. I need to see it. I want to see the secondary. I know Sanchez, the corner is the five star was the top of that class played a lot last year. Expect big things from him. But I just feel better about say what Indiana has coming back. And that's why I have the Ohio State three. All right. I think the most important thing is there's no way like saying is worse. I think he's going to be fantastic. At times last year, I thought he might be the best quarterback in college football. Now granted they were destroying everybody. But Bo Jackson is going to be fine. We already know what they have at receiver. And then three of the aligner coming back and two of them are all big 10 guys. So maybe. But maybe it's it's concern after them getting man handled in a way that you wouldn't expect. Which is kind of a thing that's been happening at Ohio State up front. More than you would ever expect. But again, this has happened in a few different spots. I know like we're going to touch on some of these SEC teams. You're like, how come they can't block anymore? But I was wondering if you think like this is a worthy point of of Ohio State in the way the big 10.
schedule can go at some time. So they have that Texas game where both teams can't convert a third or a fourth down. Texas actually outgained them. They have the turnover, whatever. Big statement win. Kind of derails. Texas play. I've hopes with all that. And then after that, Ohio State and their next 11 games, outscores are opponents 39 to 8. And you compare that with, I think Indiana having to be challenged by Iowa in that game, which I thought was a tough game for them at a really nice win. The Oregon game, even though Mendoza was in control, that was a tough place. You know, it's just tough to go into Austin and beat this Oregon team the last few years. They get that done. And then they have that Penn State thriller. I do wonder if it was a bit of a wake-up call for Ohio State to go up against Indiana. And granted, like it would have been tied if they had made the field go kick in the championship game. But they didn't look as good as them. They didn't look as physical. That's an alarming thing with two years in a sign that Indiana can look like the more physical team than Ohio State. I wonder if you think if there's anything to going that long not being challenged playing that slower tempo. And then it being more of a wake-up call for them than say it would be for Indiana with a couple of the challenges that they have. Yeah, I think it's a huge aspect. And then you look you fast forward to this year where it's like, all right, you're getting tested early. You're going on the road early to Texas Iowa. You know, you have you have a tougher schedule. There's no bones about it. But when you look, it also is crazy, Ryan, is you look, you mentioned no, Ohio State Texas game last year. Like I was there. I'm watching it. I'm like, man, this is toe-to-toe. And I'm like, I think these teams are going to be different, say a month from now. Like they're playing the guys that have experience because it's such a big game. And they're going to let the young guys play, you know, as the season moves on and they grow more and they have more practice time. But what happened after that game, it was like, all right, you mentioned the combined score. It was like, Ohio State got rid of Texas. They're loaded. Their defense is going to be better than the national championship. And then you look at Texas who goes to Florida loses, Arches getting his brains beaten. And it's like, yeah, Texas, they're they're not any good. I'm like, they were right there. If you think Ohio State's that good, then why isn't Texas right there? They they had the ball inside a 10-yard line twice and couldn't score a touchdown. So it's crazy the way we look at these out of conference, you know, early games. But yeah, with Ohio State, I think there was a sense. I also thought they played it close to the vest knowing that their defense was so dominant. And the teams that they were planning, it's just weren't going to be able to assemble. I look at Coach Sabin and what he did at those early years with Bama when he was bringing along, you know, young QBs where it's like, all right, we're going to play close to the vest. We know our defense is superior. And that's how we're going to win games. We're going to finally beat teams down with our depth. So along the road, you also had to say it in his first year as a start. And, you know, he's got this guy to throw him in this guy. I get it, but you're still going on the road to, you know, to Washington, who's a capable team. You don't want to screw it up. You know, they're not going to score a touchdown. All right, we'll get the ball in the red zone. And then we'll make a couple plays. And let's get out of here where to win. So I saw you saw that over the course of the season. And it wasn't this wow thing that we had from the playoff run the year prior to Ohio State. So yeah, I think you're guilty of that. And I think Ohio State coaches want to get punched in the face. They want to see how they react, especially with so much change over you. You know, we hear about all these quarterbacks that we'll talk about, right? And, you know, you're reading stuff at camps like he didn't look that great. And I'm like, well, half the battle of half these quarterbacks is their elusiveness. And when you have a control practice, they can't do that. The whistles are blown. It's a touch, you know, a two hand touch on the quarterback or, you know, in some cases, don't even touch the quarterback. Stay away from him. So I think there's two sides to it. But Ohio State is going to be put to the test a lot earlier. And I think you're going to need your offense to step up as opposed to relying on that defense last year. One of the differences, especially with the teams of the top this year in the AP and Ohio State is number one in the AP, which I probably should have mentioned a little bit earlier here. But when you go back to the top eight last year, I think you have four teams where you're going, you're just assuming that the quarterback's going to work out in a situation that we have no idea. You know, Notre Dame was in that group, obviously, Ohio State. I feel really good about saying it's kind of my biggest takeaway from this. It seems impossible to replace the defensive talent that they've lost, but they've already done it before. And one of my favorite transfers in the entire portal thing is another Bama to Columbus guy here in Quay Rousseau, who I was watching tape of him this morning. And there's a broadcast in the Georgia game where you can tell the way Herb Street talks about Quay to the defensive coaches for Bama, where it's like, hey, we're not saying he's the best, but the eyes in Herb Street's line is like, you can see the coaches, like the eyes line up a little bit, like he, he might be the most talented guy here in Tuscaloosa right now. And look, he got hurt last year. He missed two months, but it was funny because when he first visited Ohio State, he was like, I don't I'm not sure. And then he would like appreciate it. Ohio State that much more. But now it's kind of turning this thing. It just looks so bad for Bama because it's Caleb. It's Quay. It's another defensive line. And saying gets thrown into that mix as well. But, you know, look, those guys wouldn't have left if somebody else are still down there in Tuscaloosa. Okay. So that brings us to Indiana, because I like Hoover going into this like, I don't you're a liar. If you're telling me you like Mendoza better, I really like Hoover. I think it's a perfect fit. And they have the offensive line. They have the defensive line. They have the transfers that receiver to go with Becker. I don't honestly, I think like there's a good, good argument that the A.P. should have voted Indiana number one, not just because they're repeating champs. I'm always cognizant of that with the defending champ. I think, you know, we should not just throw him away, but it's hard to do now with all the changeover. And I get where people, you know, want to run and take things from, you know, moves that are made or guys leaving and stuff like that. But I look at what the and I'm amazed to at the idea of Indian like last year, 20, I believe in the preseason A.P. and, you know, getting a gist of what they were going to be. All right, there's Mendoza. Not a lot of moves, you know, Perse always Cooper's been there. Sarat was a J.M.U. guy. The running backs, you know, they brought in the kid from Maryland. And, you know, a couple trash Cougan, obviously, was the big name on the offensive line. But then I look at what they lost. But, and, you know, from a national championship team and you're looking at the NFL draft, you're like, yep, draft a draft a draft a draft a draft a draft. It's like, wow, I had no idea before the season that those guys are going to be NFL players. And then I go to the game at Oregon and I'm like, holy cow, like Aiden Fisher can run. This Jones kid is a player, daily upfront, man handled Oregon. So, I look at what they lost this year coming into this year, but I look at what they replaced it with, man. And the Nick Marsh, I know everyone's talking about Cam Coleman as a receiver transfer. Like Nick Marsh is an absolute stud. And you go back and look at who he was playing with at Michigan State and probably the worst years we've seen a Michigan State in a long time and still producing and doing it against Big Ten and NFL talent. I think it's a step up. Becker is an absolute stud that gets thrown away, you know, in this run when Sarat and Cooper were missing time that he relied. I mean, that Penn State game before the Cooper catch, he makes a catch on the sideline that's incredible. And you're like, who's this guy? So, and you look at the offensive line, sustainable pieces that are back from a team that has success. And then they get guys from Wisconsin, the running backs, you know, they get turbo in, they got a program kid. And when you mention Hoover, he's asked to do a ton man at TCU. And yeah, you're going to have inflated numbers when he looks at interceptions. But a quarterback's best friend in the world is a play where he could turn his back to the defense and hand it off. And Indiana instills that. It's a part of their offense. You've heard Signati take shots at TCU. Well, saying, well, he's going to have a run game here. And I firmly believe that, man, like I think that's a, that's a huge deal. And I look at Julian saying is being able to do that this year. And that's a huge step where he's just like, you know what? It's, it's first and 10. Let me assess things. They're running guys in and out here, hand it off. Let's get six yards and have a, have a manageable down. That's, that's the bread and butter of Indiana's offense. They run the football, the open things up in the past game. And then I look at the defense. Like ponds is probably at the end of the year, probably my favorite player in college football. And he was a monster asset. And what he was able to do at that size, because people kept challenging him. And he won challenge after challenge. But you, you rotate, you know, you're, they play a field corner in a boundary corner. The other kid will come over. He was the kid that had this interception that's feeling national championship. You still have Jones on the defense. And then what every single coach in America wants, if you ask them if you could have one thing added to your team right now, defense of line depth. And now with this five and five and getting daily back and the other kid back, like line to scrimmage, man, that's what's real now. And you look at how Ohio State buckled up two years ago. And that runs because of their line play on both sides and chip figuring out the, the pieces to move on the offensive line and being able to run the ball and, and make windows, you know, wide open for, for Will Howard. And in the end of last year, I mean, watching that Rose Bowl back, I mean, I said the other day on our pocket, like they, they made Alabama submit. Like, and they, they just, they just kept taking it to him. It wasn't pretty. And then the scoreboard is like, wow, that's what it turned into. And, you know, they knocked a quarterback out who, now you're reading, it was 20 pounds lighter than he was to start the year, which nobody talks about when they talk about the demise of Alabama season last year. So, um, yeah, I just love the way Alabama is built. I, I look at the coordinators, getting to know Brian Haines. He's a different dude.
The way he adapts to his talent and also what your offense is bringing it to a table to scary mix man And and I just I think there's a trust there and you know some days gonna have guys motivated So I think right now they're built better than any other team and it's mostly because of those lines of scrimmage Hey, I'm gonna give you an Oregon stat here, which is pretty incredible. This is from Bill Connelly ESPN so If you look at teams they have not played in the national championship over the last three years Oregon is 37 and zero Against teams that have ended up in the national title game Oregon is one and five so You want to talk about the Indiana win against Bama being alarming for Bama the Game against Ohio State which even though it was close like you don't you didn't end that game going Oh, I feel great about Ohio State after this like for like what just happened there You know they get their ass kicked a little bit even though the scored and indicated that way And then you have the Oregon game from the jump. You're like, okay. This is an absolute nightmare here Oregon is another team like you think about who they have back at receiver like Stuart's gonna be back more is gonna be back So you already have a proven player in there and Dante Moore who's like to hear the top of the Heisman finalist stuff There's so many guys in the defense that you like the remade secondary that goes with two studs They're already in place there on top everything else and so it's another one of these teams with all these hopes where I'm like Okay, so they're gonna have a tackle from Yale. So what's Where do you put the offensive line here? Is it in the Ohio State conversation? Is it in the Texas conversation because it feels like Indiana from an offensive line standpoint is less concerning at least today in August than it is until We start seeing how these teams look exactly that's that's the way I look at things and Oregon You know I put behind Ohio State because there's I mean look at that offensive line There were guys that got drafted that you know at the beginning of the year like yeah Okay, that right guards nice and he's okay and all right Well, I get Connerley two years ago, but now you got to do it again And when you look at Oregon the other the other side of line of scrimmage is the one that opens my eyes more because When you everyone knows they're four down lineman now, you know, they're the big they're you know The most known for some coming into the sport this year But when you dig in and you look at who rotated with those guys, they're all gone You know Notre Dame got one. I think Mississippi got one Georgia got one maybe LSU so in a day and age where you have to have that they don't I mean they've earned the old Pac-12 I wouldn't worry about it, but now you're in the Big Ten, you know You got to go to USC early in the year, you know You play you go to Columbus like you're you need depth there and the other thing I look at with Oregon is is coordinator change Double coordinator change, and those were special dudes man like We'll talk about you know least favorite things that you're moving around But like Will Stein is a guy who's off its coordinator Oregon took the Kentucky job like I looked at him is having one of the toughest Jobs at a major program when he took that job after dealing him left because That year dealing him had bonix playing better than I've ever seen bonix ever and then Will Stein comes in It's like all right, you're the new office coordinator. All right, what do I do? I just had a kid come off for career here. He's gonna be an NFL draft pick like do I bring my offense and make him do that or I I got to humble myself and do what they're doing and I got to do the learning and I thought he did an unbelievable job And then you have Dante waiting in the wings. So I look at the double coordinator change I look at the line to scrimmage where I want to see more Dante's gonna put up numbers There's no doubt you mentioned Evan Stewart who's who fresh off an injury supposedly looks incredible More was the number one receiver in last year's class saw him go on the road early I also will say Oregon didn't have their full strength at the end of last year You know, they were down there third or fourth running back in that peach bowl. Obviously the run the receivers were done You know, I think Cedeek was you know on his last limb like being asked to do more and more and you know I always asked the the quarterback people, you know, you know McShayne and those guys that do the evaluations, there's like Do you have a a a checkbox in there where it's like yes or no for like fourth quarter on the road Like that's I want to see that and Dante like I just want to see more, you know like I'm at the Penn State game You know had chances to nail that game away didn't get it done makes you know four or five Unbelievable throws at the end of Iowa saves their season there, but I just want to see more From Dante more, you know at that position. I get it. He's got the experience. He's got the traits His size looks a lot better. He's built better So that's where it comes into me when we're talking about all these quarterbacks I just want more from Dante and I'm curious how fast we'll see that with the with the Questions that I have as far as the coordinators and in the line play and protection You have Notre Dame number one. Why do you think they're winning the national championship? I think the defense is the best in the country. I think the offensive line will be a top Two maybe top group in in the country. I think CJ Carr takes the monster step This year I look back at what he looked like against Miami in the first half Compared to say in the second half of A&M where he's in a shootout and he's got to get this thing going But then I also look at a game again, you know against USC where his guys helped them out He didn't play well on that stage, but I you talk to people around the program And he's got the goods. He's got it if people want to use that term But I also look at Dembrock the offensive coordinator there as a guy I think it gets passed over so much you look at the places he's gone and the people he's worked with in the success rate He's had I'm not going to worry about the running backs at Notre Dame like I'm just not going to worry about who's getting a ball at Notre Dame Or Oregon or Ohio State or Michigan like I'm just not going to worry about that So if that's what you're pointing to is is the two run backs. I get it We haven't had you know two run backs taking the first round I don't even know I saw this that I think it's over 20 years But I'm not going to worry about that, but I the defense Leonard Moore's the best player in sport in my opinion And you look at the linebackers back And in the defensive line. I look at you know the the edge guys that are a year old They're going to they look Ridiculous and in the videos. I've seen how big and fast and strong they are and Ryan. I Might be looking too far into something or trying to take a point into it But like I absolutely hated the decision not to play in the bowl game last year I you know Whatever that reason it was I thought it looked pretty selfish But I will say this being on bad teams Or underachieving teams in college being a part of that It brings a totally different mindset to your offseason workouts like coaches don't have to Be the asshole and get in your face and make it make sure you're finishing past the line or you know doing an extra sprint like There's a mentality there where it's like we're not letting this happen again I think that's instilled in you. I hear you talk about the NBA all the time in series play where it's you know a built-in Motivation or you know you can't calibrate. You know what a team is one up one oh as opposed to down oh one And I think that's like kind of along the lines here and motivate like they I think these guys are old enough They're getting paid now and I think there's a An expectation at Notre Dame where they've taken this thing by the reins and They're they're ready to go and they're built for it And on top of that you know when you're piecing these top four or five teams. I think they're all in the same category Yeah, I'll look at the schedule and I Miami's schedule is probably easier than Notre Names But I think they're going to be able to do what they want against a lot of their competition and on top of that They don't really play any quarterbacks So I think that defense is going to feast and only get better and I I hate saying extra motivation, you know when when the ball gets kicked off gets kicked off But there's something about me in Notre Dame. That's a bad taste that I'm well in the back Yeah, the strength of schedule stuff You know between Miami and Notre Dame on this one like I see Notre Dame in the mid 50s 60s Miami generally is considered a little bit tougher But it's not like we're talking about a top 20 3rd schedule and then of course things will play out a little differently and so having Miami 2 Obviously no issue with it and the thing is with Mensa when I look at his stats after the fact I'm like this guy is so good and yet when I watch I'm like, I'm not sure and I don't know if that's sometimes watching too many games watching the Illinois game We're beginning of the year. I'm like, yeah, yeah, and um, you know, they lose the Twain game with all of the storylines and all the table Considering what Duke had done to them and within raids and but then look lights it up against Clemson the Sunbowl game So there's a lot that's in there. I'm I'm asking you like am I wrong to think the stats are actually like and Like a rounding up of who he's been Because the stats are awesome for him and I'm like, God, I don't know that I think of him that way But obviously it's a no-brainer to bring him in there I'm not criticizing it all and I expect he's gonna be great with Miami as well But sometimes I'll just look at some of the stuff being like God. I don't know that I felt that many like I don't know that I felt like that was the guy that I watched every Saturday I also Think he does every single thing better than back I really I mean, yeah, right talking about my favorite guy here back. So I should
I love the men's up to you here. - Deep ball accuracy. And also somebody, I forgot where I read it. Somebody was really breaking down. It was like completion percentage based on drops and he had the highest. So it meant like if he didn't have as many drops or accuracy, you know, where the ball was accurate and it did it go right, his numbers would have been that much better. So I look at as an upgrade. I don't doubt Alex Maribal, the offensive line coach figuring out the offensive line. They're not gonna have NFL guys right away, but they got a five-star tackle that like, when Maribal, who's just thought of, and then on top of that, you have Mario. Like when those guys are like, he's plugging in and playing, I'm like, "Oh, I guess he's got the goods." - Right. - So I'm not worried about that. And then I know it's crazy to say a defense is gonna stay as good when you lose a bayonet mesador. But I look at, you know, what the new DC did and I look at just the speed and the guys, they, I mean, Trey or still there. And then the kid from Ohio, Boston College is an absolute killer at safety. Like people are gonna just go crazy for him. I think it's Omar Hopkins. So I look at them as being right there and I think Malci, you know, he's gonna be able to do whatever he wants with that schedule, like I was saying, throw a flyer at him for the high-speed trophy. He's gonna be throwing passes, running them, punt returns, like he's gonna be able to do a lot. And he looks like he got thicker. I love his mindset. And when he talked to him, there's not a lot there. But man, when you put on the tape or watch him in person, he's just different, man, like he's not your six-five guy. But I mean, just makes play, I have to play after play. So I don't move Miami down that much far and they're right there. They're right there. If they don't win the ACC this year, then they shouldn't be allowed in the playoffs. Like we haven't seen them win a coverage championship game. That has to end this year. They're absolutely loaded. - Kami, other than that Notre Dame, there's no one else that's ranked right now in the schedule. At least with Notre Dame, you get the BYU trip, you have the Miami game, they've got SMU later in the season as well. So the strength of the schedule stuff that I've looked at has Notre Dame with the weaker schedule between the two. And of course, we all realize that these things can change. But I mean, if this doesn't line up for Miami again this year, and that's where the ranking stuff can drive me crazy sometimes, 'cause it's like, are you ranking these teams to your point, like who you think and win this whole thing, what you think is happening right now, or is that why Penn State's 18th? Because the schedule is fucking dog shit. Real quick, do you want Penn State in the playoffs? I kinda do. Yeah, I just be like, yeah, cool guys, awesome. - They're in that tier, that next tier of, I'm starting to think that two of those teams could get in, when you, I hate that I'm not doing it, 'cause I'm not putting Iowa in that tier, and every time I do it, they make me look dumb. But there's a tier of Michigan, Washington, USC, Penn State. I think they all play each other, which is awesome. So I see where you're saying, you been on this Penn State thing with the schedule, since it came out, I love it. But I look at that turnover, and I'm like, I just, the roller coaster at Penn State was on like, I remember the day, though Saturday after Franklin got fired, we went to FAMIL, and he's like, I would think it's probably gonna be one of the mats. It's Matt rule or Matt Campbell, and then it just took off. Like they weren't even considered, they, you know, rules said no, and then it was NFL guys, and all these major college people that were saying no, then it was like, the Satalki thing was gonna leave BYU, and you're like, they're not gonna have a coach. And then to end up with Matt Campbell, I think is a monstrous win from what it possibly was, and knowing that it's Penn State. So I think there's some verification there. I also, you know, would love to see a story about the Penn State guys that stayed, 'cause I think that's an awesome story. You could do that at Auburn, you could do that at Ole Miss, but I just, I think there's some verification there about who stayed, who came with them, and I've just always been a Rocco Beck fan. The way he's gone about it, it's not the prettiest. He's not gonna value it as arm, but being at Iowa State and winning games like he did, for him to be on this stage at such a prestigious program with history is really cool to see. So yeah, I would be fine with Penn State, being in the playoffs, and then being like, all right, let's see what you got now. - Yeah, right. Again, the Bill Connelly stuff that I keep referencing, like the continuity charts and the returning production, all that kind of stuff is like really good, and then he makes this point on how Penn State, sure, like they're bringing in all these guys from Iowa State, and I love the Rocco Beck store. I like Rocco Beck games, but he makes a really good point. It's like, okay, even though there's this implied continuity here, the talent, the general talent across the board is being brought in from Iowa State. We're ranked in these supposed disappointing Penn State years. The talent level was always considered like a pretty significant level above what Campbell was doing at Iowa State. I think the Campbell story is huge for them, 'cause it's like, wait, is this actually going to happen? And then you realize like the boosters of places like this aren't actually going to let this happen. But then there was even a time with Campbell, it was like, did he miss his window of being kind of the hot guy? And then he lands it obviously a prestigious place that doesn't play Indiana, doesn't play Oregon, doesn't play Ohio State. Granted, they've got USC, they've got Michigan there. I think they've got Washington as well. But out of comfort for them is never anybody. And I think there's like if Campbell can like write it and the two games go their way and they're sitting there at 10 and 2, like they're going to end up in the playoffs. Although we need to always assume who the other two teams are or the other teams in the 10 and 2 category. Raising Keynes is turning 30 this month. To celebrate the milestone, Keynes is hosting a 30th birthday pop-up museum in Baton Rouge located directly behind the original restaurant, the mothership. Todd Gray's will be unveiling the museum on August 25th. In honor of 30 years of Keynes, the brand is also launching a commemorative 90s plush puppy available beginning August 26th featuring Keynes in her 90s best net proceeds, benefit pet welfare organizations. I know if I were gonna be there on the 25th, what I would do, I'd be like, where are the Kaniac combos? I'm gonna be like, hey, Ryan, you've gotta hear the speech first. I'm like, I don't know, it smells like chicken in here. And I wouldn't mind getting a couple of fingers. I'm usually a no-slag guy, but I make up for it with extra sauce. And if I'm feeling just outrageous, no one's looking, I'll order extra finger. I'll do it, I'll do it, I don't have to answer to anybody. It's one of the reasons I didn't get married. So I could just say, two extra chicken fingers. I don't care, no one's in charge of me. Raising Keynes, chicken fingers, one love. So we made it 30 plus minutes and we haven't talked about an SEC team. Because look, I am with you. I cannot make the case for any of the teams ahead of at least those three in the big 10. I'm a little surprised that you didn't just find a way to put one of them in your top five, which again, I'm not arguing with you or being mad about it. Georgia was the AP's number three team. Texas was the AP's five. I think Indiana is too low in the AP and coaches poll. It's six, although they did get first place votes. Georgia and Texas did not, then there's A&M, then it's kind of Ole Miss and then it's just like a run of SEC teams where let's face it. A lot of us don't know what to do with them. If you have to make an argument for the best team in the SEC, who is it right now? It's so hard to do because Georgia is just manhandled Texas in everything they do. But I look at the idea, I mean, this Goosby News is huge. Who's the left tack, who's the pro prospect for Texas, who went down in practice and they said, "Now it's gonna be a bone bruise, he should be ready for a house, and that's huge." 'Cause that's my biggest question. What Texas was the offensive line? I don't think they're gonna have your typical roll your sleeves up and get after your ass offensive line. They haven't had that, but they've won plenty of games, not doing that, but they need it to be better. It's gotta be better, 'cause when you watch Texas back from last year, I mentioned to Ohio State game earlier, they didn't realize who they're playing different guys up front, and Arch is just getting battered and hit, and there's a play, the second and the last play of the game against Florida, there's a guy running right down the middle of the field, and he doesn't see him, 'cause he's got his eyes down on the offensive line. And it just took them a while, all the sark shifts and motions to get guys in space. You didn't see it 'cause he was trying to simplify things for Arch, and obviously on top of that, everybody put Arch in the Heisman ceremony before the season started, so I just think it was a whirlwind that they thought they could possibly see happening, but it just went way faster, and they dug themselves out of some trenches at Kentucky and Mississippi State, where I give him credit for winning. If you lose those, it's a whole 'nother thing you gotta answer to, but I look at what they've given for Arch for toys. I mean, Cam Collins, an absolute specimen, you've seen the videos. - He is that good, for anybody that maybe got,
It lost in the Auburn stuff and you were talking about was it March or Michigan state and what he was dealing with It's the same thing for Coleman where you run through like them trying to figure out who's gonna be running the offense every single week Coleman is that special like I don't I mean the how many guys would you put ahead of obviously it's Jeremiah Smith It's it's Tony and Miami. I don't know Side of those two that I'm gonna say like emphatically like I know Ryan Williams freshman year Ryan Williams I would put ahead of them, but Cam Coleman is that dude. Yep. It's a it's an absolute home run Transfer portal deal especially with already the stuff they've had in place there and this is you know I think about it, you know the kid that the Packers drafted he had a good season for Sarkit Texas I'm thinking about other receivers and I they don't come to the level that Cam Coleman is and it's funny You know last year Coach Sabin's just telling a story about how it's Sark on his staff and when they had Mac Jones and there's like and they lose Jaylen Waddle. He's out for the year and Sabin's just like man. We got a young quarterback. He hasn't played a lot. He's down, you know Maybe our most valuable receiver and Sark literally was just like couldn't be more excited He was like what what what's what's the why so why are you so all right with this and he's like we're gonna be fine Devote Smith we have Devote Smith. He's gonna win the highest betrothi now So just be ready because he's gonna get fed the ball and what happens is Devote Smith gets force fed like an animal and he's and he's even returning punch and he has a you know The last receiver to win it and so now I think about Sark getting a piece like that and I'm like Well Cam Coleman. I'm I know he got paid pretty handsomely. He they're gonna get their money's worth out of him as long as he stays healthy And I'm like that's exactly what arch needs. That's exactly what Sark wants to to have that guy You know to you know look at the NFL level like you know you look at go through receiving groups. It's like I it was the one who's the one a They got a one a So I look at Texas is having the pieces. I also think there could be a you know Learning curve. I think Simmons is as good as there is off the edge in the sport But Will's coming in you know as Will Mushamp coming back to Texas and I Think Sark, you know want him more of an attacking style And you know to play these hyperspeed games and Will Mushamp's gonna do that Is it gonna be pretty early on? I don't know. Is it gonna be effective enough to be Ohio State? I would think so But you have you know these changes where it's like okay We're gonna we're gonna have some changes here. We're gonna. We're gonna go for it You know all gas no breaks is what Sark says. You're gonna get that style this year Why I would have them over Georgia just could I think big play capability I Look at Georgia having more of a foundation now when you come so offensive line like those guys that are playing They have the five like they want to play in that position You know where each guy has a position. They're not worried about who's rolling the right guard or left tackle And deft on defense. You saw that last year. I thought Kirby was really good at SEC media talking about You know you didn't get the quarterback on the ground, you know, that's not enough. That's not the Georgia standard He's like we got to him. He's like, but we didn't make plays off of it and so I think there's an airy confidence about You know Kirby and his group this year because they don't have the wild factor. You know Gunnar Stockton's as solid as there is So they're gonna methodically beat you down, and I think they're totally fine with that They're not going out and getting a camp Coleman at wide receiver I think he's instilled in this program like we're gonna People are gonna get compensated for but we're gonna go about it this way and I think you see that in a team I just think it's been unfortunate the way their seasons have ended You know you hit a lightning rod against Trinidad last year in sugarball in the year before what no one talks about is they didn't have their quarterback Those Gunnar Stockton's first start against Notre Dame. So I know everybody wants to pound the SEC But that's the champion in the last two years, and that's what's happened to him I mean, I'm not taking anything from away from the teams that beat him But that's what happens and I think Kirby's more than happy to go about the way he's going about this season and and and and and stilling aggression standpoint that he likes to say This is a good point to kind of like transition into the inevitable conversation here, but You know if you compare the big ten in the SEC. It's hard for me to argue any of the teams in there ahead of the three that we discussed Which I've already said, but like normally I'm not going into a year going like I think there's three teams that are fatically better in the big ten than any team in the SEC, but it's Texas in the old line because I'm not remotely worried about arch I was watching this Dean Bruehler set up of of these rips of arch and just how good he is his it's not his running It's his mobility in the pocket. It's clearing the past rush with a step here Tom Brady shit where Tom Brady couldn't Crack a five in the 40 and then it's like yeah, but he's actually the most mobile quarterback inside of the pocket and some of the stuff that you see In this piece that he has up on the athletic. It's just just Really really but sure shit for a guy halfway through his first season figuring out Let me get out of this rush keep my head up and then just find myself into a throwing lane Where I'm throwing with the anticipation not throwing to an open receiver throwing to the spot hoping he's going to be open So like I thought arch was having some decent statistical games that I would watch in the beginning of last year that I thought were overrated and As the season progressed I do like if the old line is kind of just average with him having it It might be a blessing disguise that he had to play with an old line that just couldn't hold up and that he had to figure out ways To keep himself alive back there, but on the SEC's bigger part of this Like I'll tell you right now like running through The schedules again Especially with the nine games now with the SEC You can play out the exercise like when there's the big noon kickoff big 10 game And then there's the NBC peacock like second big 10 game put that up against the second best SEC game Like I'm gonna tell you most weeks. You're gonna go I can't believe like this is being billed is this awesome marquee big 10 game So the SEC has not had despite my feeling of like one through the bottom of the conference is still deeper than the big 10 It's just so weird that we're now in a year four of this and I can't point to this team that I think like is at that level It doesn't mean the Georgia can't figure it out doesn't mean that LSU couldn't have this great season I know people still like ANM a lot and maybe it's Texas But I don't I don't know and that unknown part of it on top of like hey Illinois beat Tennessee in a bowl game They beat South Carolina before that these bowl results between the two conferences this now years of this where you're not getting that 55 to three shit You were like why are we talking about this? Yeah, so this shift has happened and I wonder what it's gonna look like a couple months in like we'll probably just talk ourselves into the undefeated SEC team at 5.0 and 6.0 being like oh, they can win a national championship and it may have just as much to do with schedule But it does do with how good that team is and it's it's a very weird feeling for this conference that into year four It's like I still don't know who that team is that's better than maybe any of the teams that you've run through Yeah, it's it's pretty crazy Especially like when you look at the quarterbacks and Everybody has their difference of opinion and you look at the big 10 teams, you know, you bring in a Hoover We established, you know, we expect him to have a super solid year dot day right now I believe is is the favorite to be the first quarterback taken Julian Sain has all the toys and we expect him to be better and I look at The SEC is you know, oh god my office. Yeah, I mean just even though these missing a ton of receiving production from last season my office Awesome, so don't worry about USC replacing receivers. Just don't ever worry about that. I don't think they are worried about They haven't been in my lifetime. I've seen it happen in my face Plenty of times, so I just I look at the teams like those those top teams like arch He's still got a higher ceiling to get to you know, even Stockton when his new toys to play with I know They're gonna do it differently, but there's a ceiling they can get to turn it at with Ole Miss He's gonna get you a ceiling to a ceiling. So there's another level for the SEC teams to take They just have to do it and you know a team that we haven't even mentioned is Alabama like it's it's crazy To me that I like both their options a quarterback by the way. Oh, yeah, and They're off its line. They're off its line. It's not gonna be as bad as it was last year I'm just I'm just telling you it's not gonna be and then we start looking at their schedule Like how are they gonna matriculate these things and you know all the SEC coaches, you know Bichard about the ninth game now because they know that there's gonna be some damn good teams at nine and three Damn good teams. How many are gonna get in one? Maybe not even one. So there's just all this politics and but yeah I mean just look at the AP poll alone and that that next group of you know LSU Ole Miss Oklahoma Alabama they're right there. They all can win the conference and if you can win that conference in my opinion still You could win a national championship. So I'm not that worried the numbers haven't worked out And the big 10 is is striking while iron tie and talking their shit, which they should It's been a long time coming because when I do the math this is three straight as opposed to 13 to 16 Yeah, so It makes it fun. It makes it crazy when we go on the road for these games
And it's just about it everyone still has the what about us mentality, which is great But I just withering your way through a schedule now and in trying to you know recruit guys that are on your team right now and Re-recruit them so you hope they're staying is just something that the sport has never seen so it's as healthy as it's been I just thought it I mean on top of the SEC ranked, you know teams not in the top five or what was it Georgia? You said was three right? Yeah, Georgia's three, but so there's Texas is five 70 71 AP voters Not one voted for an SEC team first place That's no it's no Georgia no Texas no an M no Ole Miss Oklahoma LSU and obviously just keep going Yeah, so it's it sets up for awesome theater. I can't wait to be like a Ohio State Texas again week two I mean, we're not gonna overreact to that one. Are we I mean good Lord? I just pointed out earlier what we did the last years game So yeah, I get it the the three national jammies and you and I'm glad you pointed out like the Illinois Bull games because the SEC would always throw that in their face So it's it's it's hotter than ever and I think what makes it great is no one knows who it's gonna be from the SEC Which which sets up for for an awesome season? Okay, couple rapid fire questions. Oh boy. All right LSU has the number one ranked portal class 41 guys How the fuck was Brian Kelly there for that many years and they needed 41 new guys to start up 2026 I I don't know like I this this I never thought you say lays at 42 new guys. Yep, Michigan states 34 Oklahoma states 55. Yeah, they basically just said they were bringing the whole team here But then's going to still water That was when I looked at that because I mean they've got three five stars in that class and obviously love it Who you know, it was very Jackson darts to me like I love it when it works, but I'm scared of death the entire time And considering with the injury history with him. It's like he's a lot of fun to watch I mean, he's gonna play his ass off for you. I'm not worried about it's toughness or any that kind of stuff It's just like how's it gonna hold up? I just couldn't believe that number 41 Incoming transfers for an LSU program that You're like and you shout out to Brian Kelly. He did like a preview. Yeah. Yeah, you got to do the whole thing A lot of guys I don't know Yeah, I I feel for Lewis and those guys in the equipment room with that change over no one thinks of those guys That's what I was promised new name plates. No, you weren't Here's here's a here's another stat. This is my favorite stat other than that Oregon one being 37 to 0 against teams They're not playing in the national championship game our guy Marucci down their LSU since 2000 LSU wide receivers that have played 10 plus games have an 86% chance of playing in the NFL What statement says you can walk down the street and find a line of my receiver falling out of a tree in that state That's amazing It's amazing from a guy that had three first rounders and like a what second round tight end all the same time during that game All right, give me your favorite transfer. Oh man Mr. Clark Purdue No, mr. Clark mr. Clark. Yeah, he's available. That's his first name boiler up. I'm I'm gonna be biased towards the position. I because like you talk about these clean pal It's this team's up there with transfers to Virginia Tech Luke Reynolds was a kid. It was a number one recruit at the position on the 24 class play behind Tyler Warren kind of got lost in the shuffle last year But he's a mass choose its kid what's Cheshire Academy? He's got the total skill set And I think as as that team as James tries to ramp up that, you know Grucka Meyer going there like familiarity and in that conference where I don't know what the next tier is like we talked about You just went through the big time at SEC and tears as you ACC. It's Miami and everyone else. I don't care What you think in my in my estimation? That's what it is So I look at Virginia Tech as as a team like you're trying to a hot change and getting you know Momentum going a lot of guys stay. Yeah, Luke. I mean the DC the he's there. How crazy is that? I know he's this DC at Penn State, but like you just got fired three games into a season and he's center So it tells you I guess there's a loyalty in Blacksburg, but Luke Reynolds is a guy that I think is gonna be At the forefront when you're talking about postseason awards, Mackie and all that and he's a monster here for Virginia Tech Okay, I love that one Mr. Clark is not my pick even though I just want to give him a shout It's funny because I asked you a different one which we're gonna do next your least favorite transfer And it doesn't have to be somebody you don't like you just mad Maybe you like him that he's at this place and you guessed my favorite by being my least favorite and that's Henry Daley there Who if you didn't want and look? I'm not blaming anybody for watching me even when I was talking about Duke's quarterback It's not like I was watching every single Saturday's it's ready for a season Miami here, but watching Henry Daley defensive and John Henry Daley from Utah Who granted ruptured the Achilles I'm a little shocked that Blowing out as Achilles last season and apparently he's still good to go or whatever, but I loved him He shows up throughout the game. It's not just about the stats and the fact that he's with winning him there I I love it so I totally agree Reading about um, you'll love this. He got it. He's yeah, he has a chef now Read already. He's got a chef. Yeah, it sounds like he's on a snap count Um, which I think is awesome at Michigan because they always have Freaks at defensive line. So more guys for that second game against Oklahoma Uh, I think it's awesome, but yeah, no the kid I think he epitomizes what Kyle Williams about I also think He made the most of going against to what top 12 Tackles Utah head last year they both got taken in top like that's who he won against every day and and I think you saw A dude go out there. He's not example blow you away with with size and speed and measurable and all that But he's a damn good football player. I think Michigan fans are gonna love him I could have gone came Coleman. I already talked about Koi Rousa who I can't wait to see kind of in this mix. That's your father state guys Those two Yeah, I mean, there's some other headliner ones. I mean, I want to ask you a little bit about your boy Michael Bennett the third He's gonna be playing tackle out of Yale for Oregon. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he was locked in and speaking of Oregon Is that koi kid in the secondary it went from oh, yeah, this is the kid from Minnesota. Oh, that's great I've now I think I've read about him 17 times like if he's not fucking Deon Sanders even though granted. He's playing the middle of the field He gets mentioned now more as like top transfers Then I probably expected especially again some of the headliners all the quarterbacks are kind of the headliners Well, it's tough, but I wanted to throw at least two in there. Yeah, I thought it was interesting that the year before Produced best player was a safety them in He went what top 20 in the draft in Oregon. I just wonder if they I don't even know. Yeah, they think they played him that year It was just like watching the game back and you're like, yeah, we'll have him next year And then they do the same thing with marriage. It's like oh, yeah, we'll just we'll get him next year So a little Paul George Celtics is where you're telling me yeah, it's just like poor poor PJ Fleck and Purdue had to go like oh man, I guess we're not we can't have guys too good Yeah, right. I mean that part of the portal thinks sucks Like hey, at least we know who to not waste our time on in high school. Yeah, like we go Oh, yeah, this is six seven freak from Opalaka and then we're not we're up here at Vandy. We're not gonna offer him like we know it's a complete waste of time And then when you have your own guy in and you develop them And I need to track it a little bit more because I was looking at so much of the portal stuff and it's like It felt like the ACC's portal was a ton of guys that were at lower level And then it felt like the big 10 and the SEC were just Picking off other power for schools. I think the great history piece that could be written is guys that went to the big schools Who were a buy game? Like it goes back to Jared verse was that freaking all right Jared versus that Albany and they're like Florida state comes in the next year. We got this guy Jared verse From Albany. I'm like wait, they played Albany last year All right, he he wrecked our world. So we're gonna just go get him That's that's an awesome because there's a ton of those out there. I think Texas Texas had a Texas state guy like it's just you do that you connected dots. It's unbelievable what you could do I need to go through and like sort it through power for and then non P4 schools and see what to try You just you have to have it as a cutoff like if if you did Because now I mean I looked at Illinois Illinois just went juco like I haven't seen that in a year like they went I think six or seven straight juco guys Iowa went FCS skill guys Uh, right. So like there's no cut it like where are you cutting it off like I mean
with Trinidad and now Bill O'Brien took the quarterback from Saginaw Valley State who was in Ferris State's league, Division 2. Oh, I can't believe we got the name of the league. Oh my god. I'm like, so this is where we're going now. Division 2, we have to keep stat, you know, checkboxes on. So yeah, the problem with that was we cutting it off where we're the level because I'm sure there's a Division 3 out there. What's your least favorite landing spot? This is what you touched on because I hate where he's going because they're going to be there. I think they're going to be really good this year. It's Dorian Thomas, who was a tight end at New Mexico. He had 10 catches against Michigan last year. He caught at least two balls in every game and he's going to Cal. And I look at Song of Polo Tele as a guy who just needs more comfort, like more pieces, like kind of in a lower realm of arch. And I just, I hated when Cal got Will Cox as a head coach because I thought he was just what they needed a buttoned up guy. And now I just desponded at Cal get and Tosh as a head coach. You want to you want a game record in recruiting world. And now with this NIL where you can, you know, get who you want. I think it's a great hire by Ron Rivera and Cal to bring Tosh in. But this is like one of the guys you get you get a guy who's an absolute game breaker and another weapon for JKS to have who is a team that I think takes the next level to get to that next year. We're talking about underneath Miami. I think Cal is going to be pretty good this year. Okay, Ed Quinn will be happy to hear about that. Mine's DJ Lagway at Baylor. I know he's a Texas kid and I was like, damn it. I've not given up on DJ Lagway. I have not either. There's too many plays where I was like, are you fucking kidding me with this guy? And I know that, you know, that's the recruiting thing and maybe be a trick by the whole thing. I can't, I hope he is great this year. And I don't know how many games they're going to win. I think a project to win like less than four games in the big 12 this year. But I'll just say this watching DJ and you could just be in on the sidelines for the Miami game last year. Like, all right, he's holding on the ball too long. He's trying to make the perfect play. He's trying to make the perfect call at the line of scrimmage. And then he goes, you know, with our, with our guy Spav, who I think the world of with quarterbacks. I think there just has to be the onus lifted off. Like you can't do everything. And I think it's a big picture thing in college football now is, you know, you look at Alabama last year. We're Thai Simpson. I think I caught in it too much. We're trying to be too cute pre-snap and all that. And I think he's also trying to not get killed. Correct. But like Spav's a guy that was going to call it and you run it. Like call it and run it. And I think that's going to help him. Like in DJ's talked about how he feels more freedom. He sees the field way better in this offense. And he feels like it's high school all over again. And I get it. It's a big 12 and you're playing Auburn week one. But I just think the the harness of trying to do everything is is a great match for Spav's offense. We see him have success with with guys that haven't had the talent level of DJ. So I'm with you, man. I'm room for DJ and Baylor. Okay. Final one here just to because we didn't do the big 12 enough here. We did almost none of it. Text to text is the overwhelming favorite. If you had to pick a team to unseat them and win the big 12, would it be? This just feels like it can't be that easy again. Like everyone is saying it. Right. It should and then and everybody points like you point to the schedule. And it's like, all right, they don't play BYU. They don't play Utah. Like, all right, well, I'm going to go way off the cuff. And he was, if I had to do a quarterback, my favorite one. But I look at Rich Rod with Michael Hawkins coming in and Rich Rod with a running quarterback and then bring in and cook the NCAA leader. Like you want a mini Pat White and Steve Slay in back in Morgantown. I think West Virginia is built of surprise. A lot of teams. I like the teams that they get at home. So I'm going to say West Virginia plays in the big 12 title game. That's my big surprise. Kansas State, people are going to point to the schedule again. I don't buy it BYU. Yeah, they're stacked. I just, I think if it gets to Texas Tech, they're going to play like I need to see a lot more out of bare throwing the ball. And I get it. You know, he got through, he got the campus feels like now last year to play for BYU. So they need, but they're built like their lines of scrimmage are really good. I just think the beat Texas Tech, you need something different and possibly outscore them. I'll take my chances with a West Virginia team with Hawkins who I think can really succeed in that offense. And I know he's in a quarterback battle. So he'll probably lose the job now. And I mentioned his name, but I like that mix when I saw it because that's what Rich Rod want. You want to play another defender in the box and do all that stuff like that plays in the Rich Rod's hands. And I know they're starving there. And I think a big year is coming in Morgantown. Wow, I like that because they're completely off the grid. I think BYU's the easy talent choice if you're going to go with Hay and Bear being a year older there. By the way, I want to take a guess of the total number of pass attempts that Pat White had in the NFL. I want to say he started a game. I swear he started a game. I'm going to say 15. Zero. He never attempted a pass. That must have been a pretty 21 rushing attempts. And zero receptions. So it was just a package. Yeah, wow, they came in. They were so enamored with him in the wildcat package. I was reading Parcel's quotes again because I was like, how did Parcel's fuck this up that bad? And then he kind of blamed everybody else in a classic Parcel's fashion. He was going to go play baseball, I think, that way. Yeah, he was drafted, but he didn't, it was just one of those things. I mean, he was so great. And then every time I think about him and then I looked at it and went, oh my god, he's never, because like it's the kind of like the Robbie Hummel thing where I go, or how happy were you that you had at least those couple years of like playing or or their quarterback where I'll go, you know, those six touchdowns must mean the world to you because you were hurt, but like at least I get to throw a couple in the end zone in the NFL. It's like the Matt Bushman rule. You got called up for six days, a decade and a half in the minors. Thank God for those six fucking days, man, because without Arizona, right? You were there. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Flew right out. Flew right out with the squad. And then then he got sent down. It was like, I will come visit you on the next one. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. So, uh, yeah, Pat White zero, zero pass there. All right, man. This was an awesome hour. Let's do it again soon. Say hi to the crew. We'll do. Appreciate you, my man. I don't think there's anything worse than the feeling of missing out on Sunday and NFL. Sometimes your local broadcaster doesn't carry your hometown team's game and you're stuck piecing the game together through highlights and alerts. And by the time you catch up, the moment's already gone. You didn't just miss a play. You miss Sunday. And that's why there's NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV every game every Sunday all in one place. Then you throw multi view into it and you no longer need to decide between what game to watch. 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Can you help us just kind of clean up a bit of the timeline to understand where we are right now, probably starting with Walter realizing he had to sell this based on an investigation into his company, which is becoming more clear that they were kind of marking up assets in a way that was problematic. Yeah, so there are four components to the situation right now. You got the Mark Walter leg of the operation. You have the Josh Kushner and Bob Eiger leg of the operation. You got the bus family in fighting and they're part of the sale. And then you have the Lakers organization and all of the instability and uncertainty right now with everything going on beyond just the the fifth starter. So what we started the Walter thing like this has been an ongoing investigation for several months that it had been out there, but it had not really led to anything notable until recently when it started to be like, this guy might be in trouble. And clearly he was in trouble and the sale came together within the matter of a few days. And Kushner and Eiger were interested in potentially buying the Las Vegas team, but they got win that he was potentially going to have to sell the Lakers and they reached out to him and and they were able to negotiate that pretty quick.
Then you have their side of it of them trying to get the capital to purchase at that 12.5 billion valuation and still some uncertainty with how they're going to put all that money together when they're combined net worth is under six billion. You have the Lakers then five of the six siblings agreeing to a tag along clause which allowed them to then lump in their portion of the team to the sale with Walter. And then now genie is fighting that and they have a couple of different things that they're going to have to be figuring out in potentially court now that you have the Lakers who are trying to have this nice players only mini camp in Slovenia going on that Lucas leading is flying the team out there. They're going to be golfing together hanging out on a lake and they don't know what's going on who's going to be owning the team and how long this process is going to take to sus this all out. All right, so at least the Walter part of it seems like that transaction we understand it and it's good and now it's just a matter of what percentage of the yeah what percentage of the team to cushion or an iron own. And so this tag along clause can we can we hammer down what that is and and why it wasn't something that the bus family we're talking about six siblings here why they didn't do this on the Walter sale. And now why they'd be doing it on this sale 14 months later. So they didn't do this on the Walter sale because they want to have someone be the governor of the team which she need bus part of the sale last summer was she was going to remain governor through 2030. So she was going to be governor for the next five years she was just governor representing the team this past year. She had four more years left with the agreement that they had done with the sale so to be a governor you have to own at least 15% of the franchise so the lakers currently the buses own 17.8% of the franchise so they're just above that minimum threshold if they sell the remaining shares. Genie will no longer be able to be governor so previously they had agreed OK Genie will be governor for the next five years the buses will maintain that 17.8% they had previously owned 66% all right they sold almost roughly 50% of that portion overall to Walter and then now they're down to 17.8%. But once they got wind that they were going to be that Walter was going to be selling this portion to Eiger and Kushner the rest of the siblings were like well why not just tag along and get you cash out now at this 12.5 billion valuation like there's no really there's no reason for them to stay on at that point. And I think there was a revenge element to get back at Genie based on right before when she got wind of this she tried to change the trust and restructure it to eliminate the tag along and to clearly state that she was going to stay on as governor. And they did not agree to that and then once it came out they were blindsided by it to my understanding as well that the team was going to be sold again they were like well in that case we're going to execute the tag along clause and we're going to just cash out sell our shares and Genie is no longer going to get to be governor. This is like straight out of succession right now in terms of the infighting the backstabbing the revenge and the siblings kind of going at it so she is going to look at that there's a 2017 LA superior court ruling that she's supposed to be the governor year over year and that all three co trustees have to agree and she's one of them and she's not going to agree. There's a lot going on with that but my understanding is that like last year the reason why they didn't sell the full thing they wanted to still be attached to the lakers they wanted to maintain a minority stake and she wanted to be governor but once it came out that they were going to be selling it again the siblings aside it why not cash out now. Yeah look I read what the lawyers had to say in lawyers in this spot they can say whatever they want right so I just I get the sense that like Genie is going to have a lot of public support because I think Genie is well like I think Genie is done a really good job with the media and who knows like she may be I don't know any of them right I I know people that have interacted I know that when Jim was running the game. When Jim was running the show it seemed like every media member was trashing him constantly especially when hostility is being it was like a national thing and then it felt so nasty that I was like. Is Genie like are they so pro genie that they'd be trashing one of the other siblings because you know it just seemed like this infighting has gone on forever and look this is kind of like somebody has a nice summer house and there's five kids it's a problem never mind it being the lakers so this isn't all that. It isn't all that surprising I guess I'm asking is there a good guy a bad guy in the bus dynamic right now. I don't think so I think there's blood on on both sides so to speak I guess at this point the family is trying to move forward and just sell and get out and and like we've seen over the last handful of years all this new money coming into NBA ownership and it's just it's a different dynamic. So I think for them they feel like the best thing to do is to just sell cash out and move forward. But yeah I don't know if there's a good guy here necessarily like I think genie does have good intentions but if you look at the current dynamic I don't think she has an ally right now I think you look at like Walter is dealing with some some bigger fish and he's trying to potentially not go to jail right now and sell off all these assets that he has. Then you have Iger and Kushner who like Iger isn't putting up as much capital as Kushner is so theoretically like Iger is supposed to be the face of the operation and he would make sense to be the successor to genie in terms of being the governor and being a part of the board of governor's meetings and just being like that you know that more so is is going to be his role as the operator. And then you have the siblings who have clearly turned on her and it's five or one so I don't know if that makes for the bad guy necessarily but it does seem like all of the parties involved with the exception of her want her to agree to sell and move on and she's the last one you know holding out. Well I can understand why she doesn't want to sell because it's cool to be the governor of the Lakers and when we have these transactions I mean it's been pretty predictable every single times that the new ownership comes in and if there's any public equity of someone from the remaining ownership group and they just kind of announced this soft transition. Cuban still owe 27% of the maps when he sold his majority stake and he was saying everything everybody seemed to want to hear maybe even the Cuban wanted to hear and then it was like actually you're not in charge of this thing which makes a lot of sense because if I own 73 plus percent or whatever of something and I've spent billions on it I don't actually want you in charge of this anymore so I think it's something that teams have been doing a lot of maybe it feels more NBAish where we're just announcing like this soft transition and don't worry. Like people are still going to be figuring out what happened with Boston a little bit maybe not to the degree of what you've had publicly with Cuban and then publicly with Genie bus the Genie one makes a little bit of sense especially with Walter who was somebody who was always going to take a bit of a back seat to other people that are involved as organizations but you know if I'm one of the other five siblings going like so wait a minute we're just going to hang on like we can't you know eventually it's like I want my mind. You know look I'm just kind of like thinking of a whole thing out it's a last man standing clause which is that if any of the siblings die the shares get distributed to the remaining siblings so one of the six dies now it's split instead of one six it's one fifth so that's the other element here is like it I think the older siblings are looking at it like we want to cash out now enjoy this for the final whatever 20 30 years of our lives where's the younger ones were the holdouts last year but I think now everyone unanimously is just like let's just move on cash out and I'm going to be able to do that. On cash out and enjoy the extra you know 300 plus million that were each going to be making. Yeah that's what I'm saying like if I'm in my sixties waiting for this big cash out and then my sister wants to be in charge of the Lakers for three more years because it's cool. I'm like that's not a very good argument because that's kind of kind of what it is and she probably would have been phased out a little bit anyway if Walter had stayed in position and she's certainly going to be more phased out here like I go and ever look I like I go I didn't have a lot that wasn't a high priority for I guess day today of running Disney but it is a job where it's really hard to be as well liked as I go was. And there's a decency to him and there's a confidence of just his. His energy in the room I maybe this sounds a little ridiculous like this is where the value of somebody like this comes in where you know he's not even close to writing the biggest check for all this stuff so I think I guess position. With the Lakers post all of this controversy like he's a settling he's just a settling presence for an organization that rarely seems to be settled either either good or bad on the court. So I don't really know what genie's role would be and then back to like another thing that we know if she's blasted out so many of her siblings in this. Reorg like why would any of them have her back anyway exactly. I mean yeah like they agreed to sell and then two months later they Joey and Jesse got fired so it was like. I mean yeah I don't I think at this point I mean at least with the brothers she is either fired or sued all of them so it's like yeah I mean this has been a decade long battle between the siblings and it feels like it finally turned where.
They all turn back on her and we're like, all right, well, you really want this? Okay. Too bad. We're going to cash out and sell our shares and it's five or one. I don't know how much information you have on it, but is there anything to like say, well, hey, anyone could have done what the Dodgers are doing and you're like, maybe not. Maybe not everybody could just go ahead and do what the Dodgers are doing on top of deferring everything else where a high income tax in the state actually works to the Dodgers benefit? Yeah. I mean, I had had conversations over the last couple of months prior to the sale with people who were like, where is this Mark Walter magic supposed to be? Because I think he had made some changes on the business side, we're bringing in Law and Rosen and they had revamped the business side, some new sponsorships, partnerships. But we had not really seen the dodgerification of the Lakers. But I've been the big thing of, okay, Mark Walter is going to come in, he's going to make them run like the Dodgers, they're going to become this big market juggernaut, they're going to be restored to glory and it's going to be like the 80s and the 2000s and we just haven't really seen that. They didn't even hire their second assistant GM yet, which had been a months long search for them going back to last season. So it's like a lot of this had been put on hold and there'd been the sentiment out there of like, when are we finally going to see what Mark Walter brought to the Dodgers, brought to the Lakers and clearly there was more going on behind the scenes than anyone knew. And I think some of that stuff had been put on hold for the time being. But I mean, yeah, it just, I don't think it's, I mean, it's two different sports right in two different salary caps so you don't have the salary cap in baseball, which allows you to spend to a degree that just isn't feasible in the NBA unless maybe you're Steve Bomber. But yeah, I mean, we just had not seen that level of investment or like the cutting edge beefing up the basketball front office like your basketball ops, like we just haven't seen that yet. And I don't know if we will, I don't know what it's going to look like now against, you know, with Kushner and Iger, like, it's just, it's TBD and I mean, they're entering this without a plan. Iger had an interview last week where he said we don't have any plans, anything that's out there speculation. And like, I mean, yeah, that's not great to be hearing about a month and a half before the season starts when, you know, the roster is what it is and there's a certain element of lack of flexibility based on the contracts they give out the investment that they made in Walker Kessler. But it's just like, yeah, I don't know where things are headed for the Lakers and this seems like this is going to drag out for several months at a minimum. It's a really good topic though on like the waltrification of the Lakers and it's like, is that even possible? Okay. So like, say, what do you want to be? You want to be a second apron team? It's like, well, you actually probably don't. And the only time you could ever put yourself in position to just blow through the second apron and pay all these luxury tax fines or penalties or whatever you want to say to categorize it. You'd have to have all of these amazing players, earning under contract and just extending them to the birds because there wouldn't be mechanisms to just go out and start spending on anybody else like you could in baseball. So the other thing when I've talked to Dodgers people about it, I'm like, what is it? Like what is about this group other than just money? And it's like, you know, some baseball teams will say we're going to be like better than everybody else internationally. Other places are like, well, our area guys are going to be unbelievable. We're going to do just a great job in this part of development. And the Dodgers basically like, we're going to be elite at all of it internationally high school college. Like, we're going to comb through every single prospect in a way that nobody else is even close. And I think the fact that they've been able to stockpile so many prospects year after year and then lead to whatever transaction they want to make at the major league level proves like a proof of concept with this basketball. That doesn't really matter. Like, okay, you want to spend 50 million more a year on your scouting department. You'd be, I'd be telling you like, hey, to your own or like, this is a massive waste of fucking money because it's you're not going to find some lefty in Korea that nobody's figured out yet. And even then, I don't even know that that necessarily exists now except for the ability to just go ahead and sign any international prospect you want to on top of any free agent if you're the Dodgers. But there's, there's such a difference between the rules and what you'd be able to do. I think there's a lot of hope for Lakers fans that like, hey, look at what's happening down the street. This is going to be incredible. And I'd be like, I just, I don't, I think it's like two different worlds. So that was never really going to translate. And so now it almost feels like a letdown, even though based on the finances of this whole thing, like, he's not even close. Even with the sale of Lakers, he's not even close to getting the books right and getting everybody back with the way that they were logging so much of this stuff. Because when you dig into the whole thing, you're just going like, oh, that, like something that was listed as a $5 million transaction that wasn't an affiliated part of it, then months later was, I mean, it's, it's pretty bold to have even thought that this was going to pass. And you're right. Like when he had his plane, or excuse me, when he got off the plane in his phone, his laptop were confiscated, like, I just kind of was like, oh, whatever, you know, maybe somebody's out to get him and they're just being investigated. And then here we are. So as well. He probably should have never bought the team to begin with and we'd be having a different conversation right now, but yeah, now we're here. Yeah. Well, great job today. And thanks for helping us clear up some of this stuff because it does feel a bit like, I don't know if there's anyone that I'm rooting for against, but that's a very Lakers story as we know. And someone told me this is a complete mess and they just want to move forward. And I think what we're all there. Yeah, I really don't, I mean, to finish up, I was done, but to add one little thing to it, I don't really know that it's that big of a deal for the basketball part of it. Like for 26, 27, no, with everything that's been done, like, I think they were going to be whoever they were going to be. There's some long term concern, certainly, but for this season, I don't think players care about this stuff at all. That's a fair point. I mean, I think there's some uncertainty with the front office and the second assistant GM, what's Rob's future going to be? Are they potentially going to make a move here to try to find that fit starter, which we open with? I think there are some quite like smaller questions maybe, but certainly, I think this is more of a 2027 summer thing with the organization. You can check out Yovon's YouTube page, get on there, subscribe, and find out who that fifth Lakers starter is going to be because that's, I don't know, it's not more interesting than this. It'll matter more down the road. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Ryan. I know our guy Kyle has been loving the Lucy pouches every time he needs to mix it up. Maybe he's on a train. Maybe nobody's looking. You know what we're talking about here. Lucy pouches have the industry's longest lasting flavor, nicotine meat technology. Most pouches hit hard, fade fast, and call it a day. 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[email protected], a couple follow-ups of Saruti and Kyle. Kyle has some great woodwork matching finishes. I'm just saying that dresser matches up with the closet and the door. I don't know. Is that your style? Yeah, it's a background. Yeah. We're in the old childhood bedroom here. This is the one I had solo for a bit and then I shared with my brother. We had a big sick bunk bed up here for a while. Then I got a solo house, two bunk beds. Solo, then we're having a little brother as I'm nine years old. My sister was like, can I please have a sister for once and boom, now we get bunk beds. Hell yeah. Now you're old with bunk beds, top bunk. Yeah, you couldn't tell me nothing. So did that for a while then moved across the hall and then went down to the basement room when I think we just all needed a little bit of space from me during those years of my life. So separate entrance type shit. But yeah, it's good to be back in the old room. How old were you when you got your first second entrance access? That was probably after freshman. You know, it was after I had my little hiatus from college, after we got that all settled, put back into place. That's when I think freshman and college, all right, because I got real scared there. Well, I give freshman and college. It was after the whole picture and you like it thing. And you're giving a banana splits going, I got, I got secondary access, folks. Fuck you. I don't need this. Yeah. You go. That's how it out of my league out and I lived upstairs. So I knew I knew the lay of the land. Anyway. All right. Is that all?
- Is there any change that you left? - Oh yeah, honestly, the only thing that's still here is like there's a little patriots thing up above me on the ceiling for some reason. They just left that one there. There's a Tom Brady poster over there that you can't see. But I believe that was my little brothers who like took up the mantle after I got out here. But there's some other things that don't really fit in here anymore. This is sort of just like where are we gonna put that one? - I already put a poster in there. - No, I do not. - I don't know, let's get some emails. People are calling it "siruti incest" now. There's terms, "sirincessed"? - Yeah. - "siruti style incest"? - They haven't gnashed it up yet. - I don't know that I like this, but. - I don't like it, right now, I don't like it at all. - I don't want my name attached to this. Thanks for the credit, but I don't want it. - Is it gonna be like how there's like lymphoma and Hodgkin's lymphoma? It's like it's not incest, it's "siruti incest". It's not the bad one. People survive from, it's not the bad incest. - I mean, if you really, just mash him together quick, the eye feeds right into it pretty fast. - I don't think we should be the first to prove to do it though. - What are you famous for? - Well, how much time do you have? - This one's gonna be a little bit of a bad one, sorry. - It's not the bad one. - It's not as bad as it sounds. - It's not as bad as it sounds, yeah. - It's gonna sound aggressive at start. - Some guys are a little bit of evil, dude. Defenders of it. - A huge group of people. - Yeah, a lot of dudes are bad at me on the other side, exactly. - All right, so 5/11, 1/8, 5/33, a suburban J.R. Smith, tantalizing shot, making ability, with sometimes maddening shot selection. Just say you suck to play pickup hoops with. - Yeah, it's tough. - Sparas, there's no way. There's like, hey, my buddy takes horrible shots, 30, 40 feet, couple go in, you're gonna love playing with him. - It's a good comp though, because I feel like I've played with a ton of suburban J.R. Smith at the Y. Like, there's a lot of those guys that just have no basketball IQ, don't care, aren't interested in playing as a team. And you're just like, all right, yeah. But, you know, their dad might have gone to a country club. - Riding into defense of Rudy, a guy from my college group recently shared the exact same thing that happened to him. And the university reaction to the 10 plus guys in our college group was, that's fucking weird. Wow, so that's 10 for 10. Not a family ruiner, but definitely weird. You know it's wrong, the brother and sister know it's wrong. It's borderline, it's estuous. They're going to do whatever they want to do, but a firm response letting them know that it isn't cool, it's borderline incest. Serious incest. - Well, let's calm down. - And you're not happy is fair and appropriate. Once they know their family members view them as borderline perverts, they'll probably decide pretty quickly if they really like each other or just going around. Ah, wow, I don't know. That's a lot there at the end. I just don't know how many families are going. Oh, the pervs are here. - Yeah, I don't even know that I'm that strong. - Sorry we hit it off at your barbecue. - Somebody needs to go downstairs and get the extra plates, but you guys better not go together. - Yeah, cheese. - We're pregnant. Oh my God, is it going to have three arms? No, because we're not related. - All right, guys just got quiet. This, well, I just realized how much staying power this topic has. I mean, we've spanned like three or four episodes with this, I think. - I've said my piece on it. I don't have much else to say. This guy definitely was more aggressive than I was. I did do it a little quick poll. The friend group as well. And they were on my side for the most part. - Okay. We go hard, you did a poll yourself. - Yeah, 'cause I like the first, I got so much shit like the first time again. We didn't know like why don't we remember what we, when we taped that stuff. So I was like, what did I say? And so I listened back and I was like, all right. And then I was like, I was getting from everywhere. And I was like, am I the idiot here? So I just threw it up to my friends. And I think some of them were like, I think you overreacted, but I agree. One was like, no, I definitely agree with you. Like that's weird. So I don't know. Maybe it's a regional thing. I don't, maybe it isn't a Italian thing. I don't know. But I've said my piece on it. I don't know. Okay, I got nothing else. - Yeah, I mean, it's really up to us. How much we want to do on this? So maybe we'll put it up. - I appreciate the support though. - It is a lot of support. There was a lot of support after there was a lot of hate. So that's just what happens. - Yeah, but it's weird when it's in a bank. You know, we had banked that stuff. Like I'm getting guys hitting me up about chewing gum. And I'm like, what do you owe? What are you talking about chewing? Like I got it, okay. I can't wait to take a very long time. - We take a very long time. - Yeah, go ahead, story. - No, Zach, I can't wait. The Dan Berry Mall hasn't hit you up yet. For some, like, I don't know. Have you come by as an ambassador? I don't know. How much did you get any feedback from that? - No, you know, I mean, nothing. You know, explanation about the air conditioning in there that day either. I mean, I listened. It wasn't, well, I don't want to have a longstanding relationship with the Dan Berry Mall. It was just kind of something I needed to see. That's all. - Okay. - Just needed to see it. And the- - What do you guys think of Albany? - I kicked around Albany a couple times. My brother lived there for a little bit while he was like post college there. And I would catch the bus to Potsdam from Albany. That was one of the few stops that the trailways would take. So, you know, I go to Albany, and just like see what's going on at night there a couple times. - I got COVID in Albany early. - 2021. - 2021? - 2021. - Where are the T-shirts? I mean, we're overflowing. (laughing) We're overflowing with T-shirt ideas. (laughing) - Yeah. - It's such a bad idea. I actually wonder if it's a little few. (laughing) - I got COVID in Albany. - Which is great. - I got COVID in Albany. (laughing) - Yeah, it's your story. - And real ones would have to know, 'cause they'd be like, oh, the insus guy. Yeah. (laughing) - That would be a banger. Yeah, that was a good one. Back seat over. - I kind of want to make 'em. - I'm serious. It's so stupid. No one will get put the one guy that sees another guy. It's like, you bought it? - Yeah, yeah. - It might be like a keep Austin weird sort of thing where it's like, we had no idea that shit was gonna take off. (laughing) Some bumper stickers all of a sudden. - Yeah, I'm in. - All right. - It's like seven years after you bought it. Grilling up dogs. I'm like, when were you in Albany? - Like, no. - No, you wouldn't get it. Different thing. Your wife just be like, we need to throw this out. It doesn't make any sense. - No. - I don't understand it. Why did you buy this? We met in the shirt. (laughing) We were your brother. - That's cool. - Yeah. - Okay. - It's good time, so. - Aaron Kraft is now a doctor. - Nice. - That checks out. - A medical doctor doing ear, nose, and throat. So if you need your ears cleaned. - What Kyle? - Hey. - Whoa. - Residency at Ohio State. This past year, he won an award for his ability to teach younger residents and medical students. - That's O to Lernar. O to Leranology. - I don't know. - Auto Leranology? - I'm getting there. We're getting closer. Boy, really put an emphasis on the new emails. Why don't we read another one? This is gonna be quick. Player comp, six foot, 155 Sam Merrill, cash money for three. Love a few screens, help create space beyond the arc. Also currently working on my floater game. Hey, Merrill can dangle that rock if he needs to. They just don't, you can get himself free with the ball in his hands. Just hope people realize that about Sam. I'm gonna be quick. I wanna address one of your recent life advice submissions. Since that episode dropped, I've been approached. This is about the guy who ran into his exit of wedding. Since that drop, I've been approached by several friends in my circle because they thought I was the guy who submitted it as you receive the emails. You know that I am not the person that submitted that prompt. However, I can see how they reached that conclusion. Similar to the original sender, not only in my late 20s, and just got out a relationship about two and a half years ago, but I was very recently in a good friend's wedding where my ex was also the wedding. It was my first time seeing her in a long time, and I was talking, I was seeing talking this several times throughout the weekend. So as you can imagine, I was already being interrogated and then they listened to life advice. That's an exclamation point. My main concern is now my friends think I submitted the life of this, wrote that my height was 6'4" as a disguise. Because remember, that guy was a Bobby Portis comp, and I'm searching to find some answers because I'm hung up on her once again. They're worried about me, which I can appreciate because the original guy was alluding to. It's a slippery slope. Long story short, I'm not saying I didn't listen closely to the advice you guys gave because I did, but I'm mainly writing this with the hopes that you'll read it and show my friends it was not me who submitted the message. Because I am indeed over my ex, as long as she doesn't reach out to me again any time soon. Thanks again, fan of the pod. You really didn't miss your ex. You got hair on your finger there, dude. That's a damn yeah. Well, you're good. You're a good host because he was never going to beat the allegations without this. So all you have to do is say that's a different email. Let's hear it. It's totally a different email. Two different names, two different body types, to the player comp.
But I just it's a hard to create a different email. So I'm saying. Yeah, the the narcissism of pain like sometimes I was like, no, no you it's not me. Yeah, it is The email was six four you changed it It's like the only thing you changed was the site. Yeah, you badly badly wanted this to be me Um, I don't know that relocation guy to me. I don't think there's any chance that they are He digs out. Yeah, he's right. Did you write some fucking email in some Older sports dickhead All right Okay, this is somebody spamming me with I get spam was like a lot of right wing Stuff and then left wing stuff. We had environmentalists who just was I was like I'm on your side I think a lot of the stuff. So we're good. We're good Okay Just a lot of spam stuff and we go on brusque. It's been your Hassan Piker reference in the last pod Yeah, right If that guy were five seven no chance no chance any of you be listening to him. Oh, what is he tall? I don't even know All sorts of legs. I just know that he dresses as like mal, right. He's kind of weirdo Yeah, like that worst ex ever I'm not comparing it to but what is it Wade Wilson the guy in Florida that was just dating a bunch of Women and then he actually I didn't know that he dabbled in a in a dude from a But I that's carnival life, you know, you know who knows what the sleeping arrangements are gonna be um So anyway that whole thing should have just been like so he was six five Like the first girlfriend where it starts to be like red flagged She's like, well, you know, he was six five It's like, yeah, yeah Six five guys can do anything they really can All right, so sleep on planes Yeah, well said cop well said all right 48 six to 225 player comp Blake riff and Celtic's edition Way past my prime But still know how to play the contributing member of a team and honestly happy still hang with 20 year old to my age And not be played off the court First let me start by saying this is the definition of a first world problem my youngest worked as a bartender through college In a bit after while he found a job to fit his degree he lives about five hours away But we still see each other every few months big part of seeing each other's going out in a few bars I'm just hanging out the wife doesn't drink much anymore So it's usually just him and I love hanging out with him because I if I do say same my if I do say so myself I genetically created and molded a great adult to hang out with he is socially comfortable and can hold a great Conversation about sports music and current events and that's a great sense of humor. That's going to be an awesome awesome feeling as a dad I feel like my son is cool Anyway, all right the issue is his His cup of coffee is a professional bartender He's annoying about protecting my drink choices if they are not bartender friendly and he always analyzes the check Dad pays mostly, but to his credit does offer sometimes like I'm not capable of computing a 20 to 30 percent tip I've tried to curb this behavior by roasting and making fun of him But it doesn't seem to stick it seems silly to have a serious discussion about it Ryan is a form of bartender yourself Do you have any advice? Is he just two years past his last gig slinging drinks and he'll grow out of this Thanks for the great content fellow as you make driving around a much less tedious part of life. I don't think you're gonna grow out of this man Oh, you don't I don't think you will I mean I've I've been out drinking with guys who have haven't bartended in like five years and they It's like the same spiel and it's like you know what we always have to tip you know Obviously, you have to tip and I actually end up spending more money this way and it's like yeah I don't care. I never got to be a bartender. It was a dream But I don't have to piss people off with how like you know, it's not harmonious. I am about it I'll say don't give up on that dream. Sure. You still do But oh I I will say Ryan you do like to bring up the bar stool Yeah, the bartender is gonna happen. I don't know if you're gonna do it But yeah, yeah, like you it's just like a part of your personality like and this stuff happened what 30 plus years ago. So 30s of stretch. I would argue Well, yeah, yeah, all right some of it was 30. Yeah, yeah, yeah, some of it was 30 but like So in the idea of like it's gonna go away probably not if we if we have me have evidence here I would say the only good thing about this is this is the only flaw of your son who's been who's a stand-up citizen It's a good hang then it's a yeah Yeah, be a little bit precious. I think it's brought up a lot. Yeah, I think it's you know It's a go-to it's a little bit of a crutch. I've got crutch words. It's fine. You've got the you've got the bartender crutch Yeah, do you think I have the construction worker crutch You don't bring that up as much. I don't think you feel as comfortable with that um I would argue I mean does your son have a podcast where he's trying to intertwine stories from his past to relate to lessons of today Because I think Because I've heard this before that we're like oh you bring up college a lot or like oh you bring up x-relations of his life You're like are you aware what we fucking do here right? So I knew sorority was gonna do this. I was a little surprised that he came at me like that um It's fair. I do bring it up a decent amount. I think the difference is is I'm hosting a show and so I think that's a fair point I a lot of them. I'm not saying it's like I don't want it or it's it's bad. It's just it happens a lot You know it's kind of you go too. Yeah, but this is a space where I'm down to hear that about that shit Not when I'm sitting next to a guy at a bar where he's telling me about like you know his enlightened view of the service industry Right now That's the thing and I just don't think that's gonna go away and the positive is you already did what my advice would be like This is where you make fun of him right now because most other people besides the bartender who he clearly wants to know I used to do the shit man. I get it You know Everyone else is gonna be on your side as the dad. So you're already doing the right thing. I just I'd say just keep it up There is a very lame like hey, I used to bartend to the bartender who you know when it's happening There's a lot of people ordering long islands in here. I hated that right Irish barboms Speaking of terrorism There's definitely part of it where like I think younger people when you're you're kind of in this void This void of like what am I like what is my identity? That's why I think young people can get really really into bands because it's like Hey, I have some sort of attachment right Like do you like who was tank too much? Maybe The grit shout Like oh, this isn't the original drummer. Okay, man. I just like numbers four six. I'm just gonna sit down again No, I didn't I didn't realize this was a fuck. I could be I could be accused of dropping a band fun fact a few too many times on repeat with the wife She'll be like yep, I heard that one before. I'm like all right. You don't have to do it So I do think that that kind of stuff goes away where Your son probably shouldn't be telling you how to calculate a tip. I mean that's stupid Um, the numbers are pretty easy to do especially if you're you're going 20 or 30 you're not 18.5 but I Don't rule out that he's still pretty close to this being kind of his identity for a little while and honestly I'm not even saying there's anything like wrong with it like look look at me with sports with the red socks and that kind of stuff Talking about something I bring up too much, but I didn't have anything. I Wanted to feel like I was a something or a part of something. So I think younger people. I think men probably do it Maybe more than women do. I don't know. I'm not sure about that Um, but I think you guys get what I'm saying is it that you can have that guy in your group That's kind of like overdoing it a little bit. I remember again not to do it, but we're going to There are dudes in the bartender crew that would go to other bars specifically based on like who was Or wasn't a good bartender and now I look back on that being like That's the dumbest fucking thing any of us ever even discussed luckily I feel proud that even my early 20s. I was like this feels dumb like I like to chicken sandwiches and be like oh Fills not there Yes, like we can't go because Phil isn't there like he's the only one who knows how to make a good Moscow fuel And you just feel like this is and we had some guys like this which is just absurd and stupid and I wish I wasn't even associated with it But I think that's part of that is like I think people want to be a local like there Or they want to be a regular they want to be that they want to feel like they're part of some of a thing And if they're like hey, I know Phil like and they that's something you just hang up your friends heads. Yeah, so Well, the good news is as as annoying as that can be I think the servers are way more annoying about it And there's way more of them so um I know I I hate when I hear the as a guy who is a dishwasher for a long time and just hated servers irrationally Um, when I hear them talk about like that version of it where like bartenders not as bad But servers like it drives me nuts a little bit That's I might have a sure fuse for that What's the like hierarchy at like a bar restaurant like it feels like It feels like Because all of I feel like this comes from the movie waiting where I just think of like who is that could go is too grateful Yeah shout the round Reynolds um We're like, you know, the cooks.
seem like total wild cards. The hostess is usually like-- - But they wielded a men's around a power in the cooks. They really do. Bartenders is usually kind of chill, but I don't know. - Well, it depends on what kind of place that it is. Like rarely, I mean, if it's about the food and the chefs are always gonna be in charge of everything, although the chefs and the bartenders get their sort of trade agreements going, where everybody has to be fed, but if you can throw somebody a rum and sprite on the line to get them to the shift, then there's gonna be, you know, again, there's gonna be alliances up there. - Yeah, I think extra chicken and that both of you. - Yeah, but when you think about bartending down or cooking on a line, like you're just gonna look at the wait staff as the harmonica player in the group, you know? You're just gonna be like cool. You brought your harmonica, awesome. Like, we don't respect your skills. - Damn, that's, nobody would ever think of a server at being the same level of like skill as somebody who can actually cook a full meal. And then they're always counting their fucking money as they're walking out the door while I'm like cleaning the mats, you know? I'm not getting any of that. - But then, but then would you have, I mean, again, having been there, so I don't know, my thought would be like, if the cook fucks up, the way the waiter waiters has to deal with the bullshit that comes with that, right? They're the ones getting yelled at about the steak being overcooked or like, you know, something like that. - Or they'll just throw the staff under the bus immediately and be like, oh my God, I told him exactly, I'm gonna go get that fix right away. - Yeah, but that's your anonymous person. The back, you never actually have to deal with any of that stuff. Not like the cook has to come out and like face the music. - No, but then, you know, you're gonna be careful how you deal with the chef. And it depends on like, how long's that chef been there? What kind of standings does he have? And like, some chefs got off on making sure that everybody else felt like shit around them. I don't know why that happened. But again, it's like, that guy's working at Red Robin for six hours standing behind that grill. That guy is like, he's a loaded gun himself. I mean, it's tough. - I mean, from my first gig, my first restaurant job, I walked in, I don't know, it's like 5 a.m., we're getting ready for breakfast service. And this guy, I'm not gonna say his name. I'll never forget it. And you just smelled, he was fucking gross. He put his body right into me and stuck me in front of an orange juice machine. And was like, this machine's worth more than your life. Don't fuck it up. But he was at whatever he was going on in his life and how miserable he was. And you don't understand this when you're sick. I think it was 16. He's like, I'm gonna try to make you feel like shit immediately. I wanna immediately intimidate you. I want you to feel like you're not worthy to be even in here. And you know, the way my brain works, be like, there was just fucking oranges man. We're gonna get through this together. Yeah, I'm gonna do the job. It's gonna be fine. I don't think I can break this machine if I wanted to. It's all stationary. And like, we're gonna, there's gonna be OJ today. I fucking promise you that. There will be OJ. I know I'm new. I know it's a lot to ask, but I've seen it made. I've consumed it. I like it. I'm a fan of the product. And I've had it before in other restaurants. So I'm fairly certain I know how this whole procedure works. I might be confused. I might, you know, there could be a moment where I'm a little off first day jitters. But we're gonna be fine. We're gonna play it in a small glass, you know. Yeah, I think it's real mouthwash cup. I wouldn't want to give him a pint glass OJ. I know that would be terrible. Wait a minute. So as a dishwasher, did you dislike the wait staff way more than you dislike the line? The line was sick. What do you mean? Those guys were awesome. Those were my brothers. Honestly, those are all my friends that my buddy hired. And then I actually had to fire them all at different points. But it was like a, but I was at the, here's why it was really bad is because it was the melting pot, which is a fondue restaurant, which I honestly, every once in a while, I'll get fucking ramically, that must have been brutal. Dude, ramikens, you can't put the pot. How many times a night would you get screened for ramikens? For? Yeah, it's like a lot, a lot. And then they don't really fit very nicely into that, into that dishwasher, you know, the pots, when they were doing the cheese fondue, that's great. You put a bowl in there. But when you got an oil based, you know what I mean? You got like a bullion in there. That's not going through the, that's going in a big sink that you're going to scrub out with shit. And everybody gets new utensils every time. So there's three pointy forks for every course of this person's meal, and they fucking hurt. So listen, I don't even know if they're forks, whatever those stabber things are. It was really tough. And then it really just, sometimes the wait, the servers would just drop their shit a little bit too hard. And it's like, you respect this dish, but you put it down nice because I'm dying in here. Anyway. So, you know, whenever that happens, I'd be like, dude, I'm like, I'm a raisin over here, and there's grease, and it's awful. And you just went out for a smoke break. I got to wait 'til somebody needs garbage outside the dumpster before I can have a smoke break. So, fuck off. I was so jealous of smoking when I worked at a restaurant. I just, yeah, you kind of do get a, they kind of have to let you go. Like depending on your job, I think. If you're working crazy and there's like, give that guy five minutes, I think he might need it. My experience with the chefs are always crazier than the bartenders. But the chefs things that, the places I worked out were real kitchens, were real places. Like the first two places were real places. So there was more on the line than just some college bar where, yeah, maybe one of the other guys sucked, but I also was higher on the totem pole and didn't have to worry about it. When you're a dishwasher man, you're fucking nobody likes you. I think I did like five, four months in the dish pit before I got out, got out of there and got on the line, which was sick because I was basically just making salad and chocolate and shit like that, you know. But that was sick. - Not that. - Pine nuts, dude. Pine nuts and it's easier. Think about it. It was my specialty. - I can't stop. I'm not gonna stop thinking about it all day. Yeah. What else do we have here on the table? - One more. - Yeah, we go one more. Okay, am I scaring off girls of the gym? 33, 59, 15, 25, 225, 24 reps, player comp. Aaron Kraft, get outta here. - Yeah, I go to a name brand gym, not Equinox in the Upper East Side of Manhattan. It is more of a friendly vibe with lots of girls. I'm probably one of the more hard-o guys in there in terms of seriousness. You're aware that you're one of the more hard-o guys? - Okay, I'll put that in my old back pocket. I might write it down on my notepad. That being said, I always keep to myself. Never talked to anyone besides a friendly hello to the trainers. I don't ever approach anyone and just mind my business completely locked in. I've been noticing that girls seem to be avoiding me, particularly on the treadmill. If there are multiple treadmills available, they almost always go to the farthest one from me. Same with the freeway area. I seem to be radioactive. At first I thought it was because I smell, but I shower at least one time a day. Normally twice a day. Always wear a deodorant and cologne. Abercrombie fierce parentheses. My apartment smells crisp and clean. I work a finance job and come to the gym straight from my office. It's not as if I'm outside sweating all day. What do you think it is? Could I be doing something creepy that I'm not realizing? Could I just be giving off intimidating vibes? - I'd say, my first two questions would be like, can you tell me what was his stats again? What's his size? Five, nine, one, eighty, five. Okay, so he's not like super tall or super wide. I'm wondering if you're, and then my next one would be like, when you're on the treadmills, are you like pouring sweat? 'Cause that might just be enough. I don't know. I don't know about how your other gym routine goes, but if you're like, if you're absolutely soaked, that's enough to, I think, have someone just go give you a wide berth. - You like to smell, are you a funny runner? - It doesn't necessarily come with sweat. Funny runner. - Are you like a weird runner? - Yeah, 'cause I, you know. - I don't know that people know that they're weird runners until they are, it's pointed out to them. You know, if you see yourself running, it's kind of a, it's a, it could be a little bit of a wake-up call. I'm like, all right, that's tough. Maybe you need to fix that. - Yeah, that would be all right. - You just put people off. Yeah, there's this one guy in the familiar league. His name is Raheem Sterling. He just runs like, he just runs, literally with his arms just flapping, and it's insane. And I was like, how did you learn to run that way? He is fast, he's really fast. He was, he's older now. But, and you're just like, man, how do you learn to run like that? That's so strange. And it's kind of off-booting, I'll be honest with you. - My mom told me when I was younger, I used to hit the Naruto, like that. Like, younger way younger. But she was like, we gotta get that fixed. And we did, we gotta fix. - Okay. - That's amazing. - She was like, her things, she's fucking flying around out there. Yeah, I'd like bite the lip and everything, but I could fucking out. But that was, that I ran a black pepper snake the other day. We're at, no, I'm just imagining you, telling your family that, not me. No, there's none. There's none around here. - I think the fact that you said you're kind of a harto that you are aware of it, that you noticed it. My fear is it's like you, like our 10 times more of a harto than you even realize. But the gym thing can be really, really fragile. Like you can have the worst first impression and it can happen in like two seconds. And then it's just this awful basis that you're working from. The next thing you know, you're not talking to somebody in there for three years. Like it's crazy, I've seen it happen so far, yeah. But it's true, like I don't, I don't know. I mean, every gym situation for me has been sort of weird. Like I've had all the trainers, all the male trainers like me and the female trainers, not like me. I've had the female trainers like me and then not male trainers. I've had the black trainers like me, but none of the white guys, I've had a bunch of different dynamics [BLANK_AUDIO]
I can't really ever put my finger on whatever, any of it is, I'm not a runner. I do stick to myself quite a bit. If somebody doesn't want to come up and talk to me, but I'm just the hard-o-awareness thing. And if it's a very female gym, like are you deadlifting with chalk? Are you setting up in a deadlift station? Are you staying over there forever? Are you running? Are you sweating on shit? Which I think is a fair assessment. - What are you wearing? - While I'm on the cables. And they're like, actually, I'm gonna, I'm gonna use that next. - Are you full compression? You know, that's a turn off. - Femial body inspector, cut off. - Yeah. (laughing) - You still doing the obliteration. - When I saw that on my DC trip, I think that was the first time I saw that shirt. I'm like my eighth grade Washington DC trip. It blew my fucking my eyes. - I was like, "Why did you put that on a teacher?" And I'd seen bumper stickers that made me laugh before, but I never came across the FBI one. And we were in DC, I was in the gift shop. I'm like, holy shit. - Did you buy a trigger? - I was too scared dude, I was too scared. (laughing) - When we were growing up, there were way too many of those novelty t-shirt stores, though, right, like in the mall. There were just like all of them, you know? Like I had one that was, did I tell you about this one? I think I sent it to you. Is the rehab is for Quitter, sure. That's a tough one. (laughing) - There's a she's so lucky with an arrow pointing over. And you're just like, "Well, I wore this stuff." Like this was just readily available to any dude who was an idiot who wanted to buy this stuff. And I bought it, I bought it a lot. And it was, I wish it was less available. (laughing) - Where there's too many eye ones, it's a cheater one though. - That's a cheater one. - That's a one-seed female body inspector of those shirts, that's number one. - We don't have more advice beyond that. It just sounds like if you have, which sounds like pretty great self-awareness to admit that you might lean hard-o, maybe take a closer look at that. I think the space on the treadmill, is not that alarming. I'm usually like, it has nothing to do with it. - You give it a wide berth. - Yeah, it's like a year-old. - A year-old don't access somebody. - Yeah, right. - Yeah, not just like, I'm not just getting one away from you because that's, you know, the minimum. It's like, I'll give the max. I agree. You could try no cologne at the gym too. I know I hate it. When I get a waft of somebody else, just blast it out. I think it messes up your day. If you're heavy, if it's a heavy day, you're like, "This isn't gonna go great." I just snorted two lines of cool water. All right, that'll do it for the show today. Thanks to Tom, thanks to Kevin Kyle, and our guys. So Rudy, you can watch full episodes on Netflix. Please subscribe. The Rhine will select show, our store's box. - See you. (upbeat music)
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