HTDE: Sheets and Blankets

Hey guys it's Peter, once again in your weight weight feed I am so pleased to present you another episode of how to do everything by weight weight producers Ian and Mike. Now remember you can only get these episodes of how to do everything in our feed for a short while. So if you love the kind of mysteries that Mike and Ian are revealing make sure you subscribe to how to do everything at their own feed. Thanks. Hey there Kevin and Rebecca what can we help you with? This is an issue that's been going on for a long time but we have this thing where we go to bed at night and we have like lined up our sheets and blankets in a way that works for both of us then we make the bed right that is me okay and it's been reset and everyone is like happy and then when we wake up the following morning almost without fail like I would say 90% of the time the sheet is pulled towards Rebecca and the blanket has been pulled towards me whoa okay she only has sheet and I have blanket well and in my I would also say in my defense or in my well she not my defense I just say my interest is I'm a I'm a marriage therapist and we wake up in the morning sometimes and we're actually like angry with each other I'm like why did you take that hold why did you take the blanket like what's your problem you know and so it it it has sometimes some residual frustrations in the morning which you know I'm sort of like why do we even have strong feelings about this how is this happening I don't know how to make it any better yeah it's fascinating I mean plenty of couples there there will be one half of the couple who steals everything but yeah whatever is happening between the two of you while you sleep I have never heard of anything like it before yeah the layering of this makes this very difficult to understand how it happens because you know in the blanket would be harder for me to access and pull in my sleep the comfort is there too but I don't think we have any we don't seem to pull the comforter I mean more than anything it's the it's the sheet in the blanket that get pulled in different directions well okay so let's let's lay out the case here so you each have a set side of the bed you sleep on who's on the if we're I guess facing the ceiling who's on the left who's on the right yeah okay I'm always closer to the door in case of an intruder okay good good yeah you're laughing awfully hard at that idea okay good good to know okay and what position are the two of you in when you go to sleep first like honestly about it far away from each other it's okay but like on your and are you on your sides turned away from each other turn towards each other yeah side sleeper turned away okay and we sound like I think probably not affectionate we really do like each other a lot but we both need like we just need to sleep when we sleep like when it's time to sleep it's time to sleep and we have a really big bath so we can get a lot of there's a lot of room I think that's fair the fact that the fact that you have taken the step of calling us shows us that we that you love each other are the sheets like super high thread count really nice or is the blanket extra fine perfect blanket well I mean they both have their plus and minus their bamboo sheet and the blanket it's just a really soft blanket so I mean they're both like you know okay they're both great I think but it doesn't matter what the thread count is if you don't have any sheet that's the truth yeah oh my thread count is zero a lot of nights okay we've got a real mystery here yeah this is good I like this I we need a detective carlo catonio is online with us now he is the senior VP for investigative and risk mitigation services at boedadal and associates in other words he's a detective carlo how would you approach this case so we would have their full cooperation and you know their consent to perform a full investigation yeah the first step that I would do is number one I would want to see the room I would want to see where the bed is placed see where any windows are where any lighting is the entrance is how many doors go into it the square footage ceiling height things like that and then I would try to you know being that they're consenting and and they're they're on board with it I would set up cameras and document the activity at night over the course of a week or so and see how this is happening or if there's something that is unexplainable then you know we'd have a lot more data based on that visual evidence oh like you mean do you mean something paranormal I don't know if it's paranormal but I mean if my intuition is that either Kevin or Rebecca is someone that moves when they're sleeping and you know maybe they get hot at night or maybe one or the other is moving in a way that's all you know wrapping the sheet around Rebecca and the blanket around Kevin yeah that seems like the most likely what's been so flumaxing to them is that the blanket and the sheet are starting out together so they can't figure out how does that Rebecca is ending up with the the entirety of the sheet and Kevin has all of the blanket yeah I see the confusion there because if you're making the bed you're you're getting into bed at a certain time you know I'd also want to kind of ask them questions about their bedtime routine who goes to sleep first right that a new bed is it a new bedding set is it a new sheet I could tell you Carlo it's I think these are bamboo sheets what does that do okay I would like to see how it behaves and you know is it more slippery than you know cotton sheets or blend yeah okay so you might you might go back and build the bed in the lab and experiment with how bamboo sheets might work yeah I mean I would even say um to just see what would happen if you changed the bedding if you tried different sheets yeah all of that could have a different effect on how your body um you know it hears to the material if you were on this case and you the first first time you sat down with Kevin and Rebecca would one of the questions you asked them be do you have any enemies anybody out there who would want to do you harm would that be a question you would ask um in this particular circumstance I don't think uh we'd need to go that far but um you know in the interest of being a as thorough as possible um you know I would ask that yeah but um this case is a pretty to me seems very solvable yeah it does doesn't it if um I imagine in a lot of stakeouts it's just a lot of dead time you're just hanging out what are you gonna be eating or drinking during this time so the stakeout I mean I if they want me personally there um to you know have a human eye on it um you know that's a different story that would be a first I've never been invited into a client's bedroom for for a week but uh you know if I were to I would be very respectful I wouldn't eat or drink while they're sleeping and I'd try to be as quiet as possible to uh you know minimize any disruptions and and affect any uh of the results well Carlo thank you so much for helping us uh help Kevin and Rebecca oh I mean I would love to help Kevin and Rebecca this would be a pleasure to work on many of the cases that I'm working with uh unfortunately involve a lot higher stakes um like this one seems like a fun one it seems like it's solvable and it seems like it's something that I would be able to uh definitely provide some answers to Kevin and Rebecca on and if nothing else we can invest in a thirty dollar nanny cam which may solve all our problems for something like this that would be my first recommendation thank you for calling bnh this is a sales operator i'm a dragon clone hi i need to buy a camera are you sure so i'll connect it with our photo department you're just the moment please thank you bnh photo Wilson speaking hey Wilson i'm in the market for like a nanny cam is that something you could help me with nanny cam like a camera that you can like set up in a room and monitor i got it okay uh not me i do probably want to speak to our surveillance people handle that stuff can you hold on one minute please i can get you to them this is Ezra in the surveillance department hammy i assist you today hey Ezra uh we're looking for uh i guess you'd call it a nanny cam what's the what are the prices on like an entry level nanny cam it doesn't have to be hidden um it's really i have a we have a situation where we're trying to monitor people sleeping overnight got you do you have wi-fi at the location Yeah, we're trying to investigate if a couple who is stealing the covers In a married couple will this have a wide enough sweep to to capture all that action? So the camera that I typically recommend Sorry, I put it the wrong part number Okay, so the camera that I would normally record that I typically recommend is got like a 100 degree horizontal field of view So if you mount the car and as close to the corner as you can of the room, you'll see the entire room And it's going to be dark. It's nighttime. Is that going to be a problem as night vision infrared that can reach up to 30 feet away Wow, okay Let me ask you this question is right on the off chance that there is some paranormal activity going on Will we be able to capture that with this camera that I don't know I can't answer that question unfortunately Which camera does capture that I have no clue All right, you want me to give you a part number of this camera. Yeah, take a look at it. Yeah. Yeah. What's that part number? It's T.S. and tango P.S. and Papa Hello, hello. Hello. Hello. Is that Kevin? This is Kevin. Yeah, and I'm here with Rebecca. Hello. Hey, how's it going? We're good. We're good. Yeah, how'd you sleep last night? We're still together. We're still together, so that's good Yeah, but there I would say though there's something about sort of like bringing it up that has made it I'm like almost more aware of the sheet blanket. Yeah, okay, oh boy. Uh-huh Okay, so I think I think I think I'm twirling. I think I'm like I think I sort of grab the sheet and like twirl it around my body I'm really I don't know. Okay, so maybe it's it's got it's got worse I don't know if it's worse. I think we're more maybe like reignited our awareness of it. Okay Well, thank you both for getting back on the phone. We have an update. We have some we've made some progress And we want to get your buy-in on some potential next steps Okay, okay, uh-huh. Well, we just got off the phone with a private investigator who Investigates crime scenes and cold cases and we laid out everything for him and His recommendation is that for the next step we send you all a camera and you film you film a night of sleep and then Mike and I review the footage Okay, are you willing to do that? I feel it yeah, I mean yes, but it makes me a little nervous that I'm gonna like it's gonna be my fault. Oh Really? Yeah, but yeah, I mean carry out the all it gets the better of judgment. So All right, well, let this be a verbal confirmation that you have agreed to let us watch surveillance tape of you sleeping Let it be that perfect All right, so we have sent a surveillance camera to Kevin and Rebecca They're gonna set it up and they're gonna send us the footage We're gonna take a short break and when we come back we're gonna review the evidence Again, this is two adults Sleeping in their beds at night and we're gonna watch Hey, if you have a question and you need some help answering it, maybe you want us to surveil your nighttime routine Send us your questions send them to us at how to at npr.org Hey, you never know we may already be watching you with a secret camera in anticipation of your question On the last episode we did a little thing after talking about Dolbert's Law That's the law that allows you to figure out the temperature based on tree cricket chirps We had played a game where you all had to tell us what the temperature was of the episode Hundreds upon hundreds of you wrote in so many people wrote in so many people got it right the answer Ian 56 degrees Temperature which would probably kill crickets. 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You're getting some of it some outdated merch and some of these will be game-worn by Peter Sable Think about that the guy who likes to run Okay, we have just received via email a lot of video of Kevin and Rebecca sleeping Okay, so it is looks like they're getting ready for bed. It's about 946 Which I feel like nice job nice and early. I'll say one thing. I'm noticing here is how much Kevin is looking directly into the camera So there may be some observer paradox that we are actually influencing The experiment here and I just want to add. I'm glad he's not more comfortable You know, I can only sleep if they're too strangers watching me on camera. Yeah, that'd be weird All right, so now 2.36 a.m See in a lot of movement From Kevin here. Yeah Rebecca's position has changed. Oh Okay, yeah Okay, she's has a lot a lot of nighttime leg action. Yeah, she now has one knee up They didn't tell us but she wears a sleep mask. Yeah Which only would enable Kevin to do his bidding without her knowing that she's true. Yeah, she's technically blindfolded Yeah, we've got this very very surveillancey kind of fisheye lens and a very good view of the bed although It cuts off the very bottom. So if anything is happening with feet if feet are yeah culprit here We're not gonna know basically the view that we have is if you're if you had a TV That was a cross from your bed like in a hotel room if the TV was watching you Sleep that's the view we have here and I think that in any hotel room That's a pretty good bed is that there's a camera the TV watching you Oh, okay, I see some foot movement from Kevin. I think I'm off just flew by the camera too. Do you see that? Yeah, if some sort of mouth or specter There it is again. It is again All right, it feels like a separate problem, but Kevin and Rebecca your room is haunted What a lot of people who listen to our show don't realize is that for every question that is sent to us We ask people to send us a video of them sleeping to help us yeah get better answer their their problems and I got to tell you you know who you know who's a sound sleeper is Autumn's I'm not getting any audio so it's pretty quiet Pretty quiet in the room. I think we we just assume She's making a honk shoe sound we can actually go ahead and add a little bit of that That leg movement though without any are now there's some arm movement. Okay, hold on here. We go. Oh goodness No, okay, I feel bad. Rebecca has now She just she's not she just pushed the covers down and she is on top of the cover She has no covering on at this point at 2.37 in the morning. So What we're seeing yeah Kevin fully comfortable under both blanket and sheet and Rebecca out in the open on top of everything Okay Oh, there goes Kevin Is he sleepwalking? Oh, I think her birds in that room Maybe it can feel like it might be confetti Although as somebody who watches a child on a monitor from time to time you do that weird weird effects. Yeah My child I just want to be clear. I'm just watching a random child on a monitor. That's too late I can't tell what's happening here. He's left the bed She sat up. She pushed the blanket down. Yeah, and pulled the sheet up I don't know. Tell me what you think. I feel like we know what happens. We know what's going on. Yeah. And I think we know what to tell them. Alright. Hello. Hey, how are you? I'm doing well. How are you? Hello. Oh, good. There's Rebecca. Nice. Yep, yep. First of all, let me just say thank you for agreeing to let us watch you sleep. Um, maybe neither, neither, maybe none of us in this situation appreciated just how vulnerable and intimate, uh, this would, this would be. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would be, yeah, I was really totally comfortable. And then then it came pen to it. And then I was like, yes, it felt a little bit exposing. Uh, if it makes you feel better, I also felt very uncomfortable watching. But all that said, I do think after watching reviewing the footage, I do think we, we have a pretty good hypothesis for what's going on here. Oh, yeah, we're very careful here. Yeah. So what we think is happening is you are getting, the comforter is making you too hot, Rebecca, you're kicking everything off of you. Yeah. Uh, and then at some point, you're then, because you have nothing on you, you're getting too cold again, but you don't want to get too hot again. So you just grab the sheet and pull that up over you. Yeah, okay. And we saw it happen when Kevin was not in the bed. Uh, and so, so either, either what's happening is the jostling of him getting out of bed to go to the bathroom or whatever. That's waking you enough that you notice your temperature is not quite right. Or Kevin is a heat source. And when he leaves, that's when you need the blank, the, the sheet. So either way it's his fault. Well, I don't know that it's, it's really, I don't know that it's anyone's fault, right? Like, you get cold, you pull the sheet up, Kevin returns to the bed, maybe, maybe your grip on the sheet is so tight. You've got this, you know, gollum like strength on it and he doesn't, he has no choice. He grabs the comforter. He's left with no other options, no other option. And so what we see, what we see in those, that video is Rebecca turn facing outward with the sheet, Kevin facing the other way with the comforter. Yeah, the, the thing that was so confusing to both of us was how the sheet and the blanket moved in opposite directions, but when you understand that she separates the sheet from the blanket, right? Right, right. Yeah. It sort of starts to make more sense. And then we both become pullers of our respective layer. Yeah, we are all, we are all but pullers of our respective layer in this world. If I were to give a prescription here, I think you got to get, I think you got to get ready your comforter. I think the comforter is the root of the problems. Hmm, interesting. That's like a down comforter and we're, you know, we're in the north. So it's cold and so we're going to be switching here soon to a lighter comforter and, you know, maybe that will, maybe it'll be different, but I will have to see, we'll have to check that out. I could tell it was a heavy comforter just from the violence with which you kicked it off of yourself. I was really angry, I'm really angry if I'm too hot. Yeah, that's been one of the, when we have argued about the, yeah, is I have, I have told her several times, you don't actually throw the blankets off, you can remove. It's fascinating because I do think one of the things that people say is you never know, you never actually know what's going on in a marriage. And I feel like, you know what, Ian and I do. Yeah, we do. We've seen it. All right, Kevin and Rebecca, thank you so much and we hope you sleep well tonight. Thank you. Take care. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye, bye. Bye. Well, that does it for this week's show. What'd you learn, Ian? Well, I'll say this, you know, in Gmail, when you're sending somebody an email and it suggests the AI suggests some possible responses, when we got all this video of Kevin and Rebecca, two strangers sleeping. The first suggested response from, I guess, Google Gemini to me was to reply to them so cute. What did you respond to them with? I didn't. I, I don't know if the four of us, you and me and Kevin and Rebecca, yeah, can ever speak to each other again after the things we've seen. Do you think, would you feel comfortable now watching, watching Rebecca and Kevin sleep? Do you think we could fit in there, Willy Wonka style, the four of us? It's a big bed. It's a big bed. As they both said, while they love each other very much, they left a lot of room in between them. I love that we'd be in between them in this fantasy. It's not exactly the layout I had in mind. I just love that you had a layout in mind. How to do everything is produced by Skylar Swinson, the technical direction from Warner White. Our interns this week are Kevin and Rebecca. Get us your questions at [email protected]. I'm Ian and I'm Mike. Great.