Speaker 1Welcome to the Dr. Obedovinga Day podcast. Dr. Obed is a thought leader and apologist who speaks to life's great existential questions of origin, purpose, faith, and destiny with fluency and grace. He is an author and the president of the Christ Cosmopolitan Incorporated, a vibrant apostolic commission that heralds the message of the fullness of Christ. Dr. Obed has seen his ministry soar to great heights over several years, touching the lives of many across the globe through his various ministry platforms. May you grow in grace and the knowledge of Christ as you listen to mind-renewing and heart-enlightening messages by Dr. Obed. Do enjoy this teaching. God bless you. So now, I'm going to something.
Speaker 2Who do you win by talking? Then. The children. You win them by talking. When you talk to them, they will be listening. Wow, I never heard this before. I never heard this before. Wow, that is deep. Do you know what? Usually, if you're a preacher and you're coming up, you have to be deep. If you are not deep, the young men and young children, they won't follow you. If you are deep, the old men will say, oh, we have seen this before. We are
Speaker 3thinking of how
Speaker 2we are going to die. You are here thinking of how Jesus is coming. We are ready to die before he comes. This place is so quiet. Oh, you don't know that there's coming a day you will not be thinking about whether Jesus is coming or not? Because you are ready to meet him. Why do you want your. I remember when I was a child, I sat back and I was asking my daddy questions about the coming of Jesus. I asked him this, and I asked him that, and I asked him, and I asked him that. I said, hey, to me, not shame and dream. I said, if Jesus is coming, why must I go to school? I was asking him sincere questions. Then he said, stop that, Jesus is coming. He's not coming now. Because actually, I was beginning to come to Jesus. I was starting to come to the place where I felt, if Jesus is coming, why do we build houses? Every time I've been telling you, this is your wedding that you are planning, it actually means that you don't believe Jesus is coming. Oh, this is your PhD that you are aspiring for. Now that you are in first year, you are dreaming, when I finish first degree, then I'll do my service four years, then I'll do my master's two years, then I'll go and do my PhD three years. That means that for you, in ten years to come, I'm going to do my master's two years, and I'm going to do my master's three years, and I'm going to do my master's three years, and I'm going to do my master's three years. That's just by the way. So who do you reach out to? We reach out to the children of other religions. On the matter of words.
Speaker 3Who will move from Buddhism to Christianity? The children of Buddhism. Who will leave Ekanka to become a Christian? The children of Ekanka. Now the next one. If you want
Speaker 2to move the farthest of religion, you have to show them power
Speaker 3and make them look stupid. That is how come in apologetics there is a
Speaker 2whole course called logic. Logical reasoning. You make their leader before them look stupid. Then the children will say, ah. So this man couldn't face this pastor. Forget it, I'm going to follow the pastor. There is a whole tactics in apologetics. You have to make sure that you make a scorn of the opposing religion. And show their
Speaker 3followers how that their leaders are not thinking. When you do that, the children will come and follow you.
Speaker 2The young men, they don't care. They cannot be deceived. Whether you say their malam is whatever or their priest is whatever. They won't move. Have you not realized that till today, there are still people who are into traditional religion and they have not decided to change their minds. They are the young men of the faith. They may not be a faithless priest.
Speaker 3Then two. How will you be
Speaker 2able to transport someone who is a young man in a certain faith to another faith? By monetary power. Financial dominion. Why is it the case?
Speaker 3When Diana of Ephesus or Ephesians was made as nothing by the apostle Paul.
Speaker 2The craftsman of Diana said, "People of God, we will not leave the servant of Diana to go and follow these people called Christians." Why? Because this is what. If you are a young man, you are a Christian. can't jump so the machine ah hey achacha open fire man Ida now you're ever fine
Speaker 4the second by the time singing the worship was over prayer had been done the power of God entered into the auditorium really the material was literally filled with was half full of hunchbacks they were all there in all shapes and forms and sizes and ages and all judges and interestingly this heart of God looked at the cluster of hunchbacks that had gathered in that place at that point in time we had to reveal it to them he said do you know what do you know
Speaker 2what when you watch especially ministries that have money you would think that those without money are not anointed have you seen the way when people come with sticks here and wheelchair we pray for them to rise if like let's get money you see the way our minister to them my administration will change you oh you still think I'll be like this no when we get money we don't have money when we get money I will scream again when you come and say take it get out no no in money you don't shout in money you don't sweat you see the way I'm sweating right now no air conditioning when this whole place is air conditioned and you know what we will do one one person with one stick like this will put all the light on me and him all the light me and him then I'll go back a little then I'll come forward a little I'll be rehearsing this for years oh you don't know you don't you don't know you don't know our first stadium crusade at Kumasi Sports Stadium or Akra Sports Stadium or Independence Square I will come from the skies we have money that I will come no no we will come from the skies we will come from the skies did you see what Davido did in the O2 arena I will do more than that by the time I'm coming the fire is falling people will wake up handbag will disappear even the dead will rise and see some people that are dead don't say what is happening in this world listen religion and money goes hand in hand whenever you don't emphasize money in religion people will not follow people will not follow there is the place of money in religion can I talk to you oh can I talk to you do you know that Jesus he had ways by which he entered certain spaces the day Jesus Christ wanted to show who is who in Jerusalem he sent his disciples go and bring a donkey where you go we are going to borrow know how you borrow it tell the person the master has need of it and untie it and bring it whether he agrees or not Jesus said if I walk I will enter Jerusalem but this one we have to do it in grand style we must do you know what Jesus did there is okay let me ask you this question how many donkeys enter Jerusalem with Jesus I'm asking a question two Jesus was sitting on one and there was a spare one and the disciples were not riding it Jesus said I have two me alone I wish I could sit on two donkeys I'm loaded very loaded and they were putting clothes on the floor clothes on the floor grand entry why because he was coming to declare publicly that he is messiah if you are messiah and you are walking like the way we are walking how will we follow him Jesus said in this messianic entry to Jerusalem we have to do it in grand style religion is like that
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Speaker 2let me tell you something let me tell you something let me tell you something without money without money without money jesus's body will hang on the cross and jesus's body will hang on the cross and
Speaker 3jesus's body will hang on the cross and rot
Speaker 2rot rot without money we need people with money to go and say we need people with money to go and say we need people with money to go and say give me jesus give me jesus give me jesus and place jesus not in the sand but in and place jesus not in the sand but in and place jesus not in the sand but in the tomb the tomb special to money religion and money cannot be overlooked so back to it if you want to get the fathers of religion they are not all the fathers that have attained bliss others are standing in the shoes of fatherhood because of their belly those people you use money to bring them in so the worst question is like now that I'm I'm a bishop of this religion or I'm a Pope of this religion if I leave and I come how will I survive you must have a program to take care of those people so that they can easily transits and for them everywhere they go they are looking for money so they are in the faith because of money but they believe but money is part then now they are in the faith because of money but they believe but money is part then now second people it is not all the second people it is not all the second people it is not all the fathers that you will convince with fathers that you will convince with fathers that you will convince with money the second group of people you money the second group of people you money the second group of people you convince who are fathers not by word not convince who are fathers not by word not convince who are fathers not by word not by money but with power power raw power by money but with power power raw power by money but with power power raw power the word of God speaks concerning one the word of God speaks concerning one the word of God speaks concerning one that was called the power the great power that was called the power the great power that was called the power the great power of God the great power of God the of God the great power of God the of God the great power of God the great power of God what was it about the great power of God what was it about the great power of God what was it about the Bible says his name was Simon the Bible says his name was Simon the Bible says his name was Simon the sorcerer why did he transits into sorcerer why did he transits into sorcerer why did he transits into Christianity when he saw power when he Christianity when he saw power when he Christianity when he saw power when he saw power the Bible said but there was a saw power the Bible said but there was a saw power the Bible said but there was a certain man called Simon with before certain man called Simon with before certain man called Simon with before this time in the same situation this time in the same situation this time in the same situation you social and be with the people of you social and be with the people of you social and be with the people of Samaria giving out himself that he was Samaria giving out himself that he was Samaria giving out himself that he was some great one to whom they all gave some great one to whom they all gave some great one to whom they all gave heed the least to the greatest saying heed the least to the greatest saying heed the least to the greatest saying this man is the great power of God so this man is the great power of God so this man is the great power of God so he was standing in a place of great power he was standing in a place of great power he was standing in a place of great power do you know what the Bible says do you know what the Bible says do you know what the Bible says Stephen went into that town and turned Stephen went into that town and turned Stephen went into that town and turned the city upside down by mighty healing the city upside down by mighty healing the city upside down by mighty healing he watched all of these and said I he watched all of these and said I he watched all of these and said I transit I wonder want to I'm no more transit I wonder want to I'm no more transit I wonder want to I'm no more going to do this again he brought all going to do this again he brought all going to do this again he brought all his secret books all his occultic books his secret books all his occultic books his secret books all his occultic books satanic books got it bent and now came satanic books got it bent and now came satanic books got it bent and now came to follow Peter to whom they all get to follow Peter to whom they all get to follow Peter to whom they all get healed the Bible says this Simeon also healed the Bible says this Simeon also healed the Bible says this Simeon also believed he also believed how can he believed he also believed how can he believed he also believed how can he believe power power power it is not believe power power power it is not believe power power power it is not everybody that you have to talk and everybody that you have to talk and everybody that you have to talk and explain God to them for me it is not explain God to them for me it is not explain God to them for me it is not the explanation of God by way of knowledge the explanation of God by way of knowledge the explanation of God by way of knowledge that made me a Christian I've that made me a Christian I've that made me a Christian I've always said over and over again I'm always said over and over again I'm always said over and over again I'm not a Christian because of word I'm a not a Christian because of word I'm a not a Christian because of word I'm a Christian because of power there is no Christian because of power there is no Christian because of power there is no way anybody will convince me by word to way anybody will convince me by word to way anybody will convince me by word to live Christianity the only thing that live Christianity the only thing that live Christianity the only thing that will convince me to walk out of will convince me to walk out of will convince me to walk out of Christianity is power greater than Jesus Christianity is power greater than Jesus Christianity is power greater than Jesus not only that that I will also become a not only that that I will also become a not only that that I will also become a particle of not that you show me power particle of not that you show me power particle of not that you show me power and I can't display the power I am power and I can't display the power I am power and I can't display the power I am power hungry me what convinces me is power not hungry me what convinces me is power not hungry me what convinces me is power not word power is my language without power word power is my language without power word power is my language without power you are not talking when there is no you are not talking when there is no you are not talking when there is no power it is noise then Simon himself power it is noise then Simon himself power it is noise then Simon himself also believed now somebody feels that also believed now somebody feels that also believed now somebody feels that then we have to what that man then we have to what that man then we have to what that man of God very well because he's power hungry of God very well because he's power hungry of God very well because he's power hungry then I'm asking you a question how then I'm asking you a question how then I'm asking you a question how do you explain this when Jesus said if do you explain this when Jesus said if do you explain this when Jesus said if you don't believe me believe me for the you don't believe me believe me for the you don't believe me believe me for the very work sick we are those who didn't very work sick we are those who didn't very work sick we are those who didn't just believe in Jesus as for us we just believe in Jesus as for us we just believe in Jesus as for us we believe him for his work sick and not believe him for his work sick and not believe him for his work sick and not believe that then he promised that the believe that then he promised that the believe that then he promised that the work is doing the same will we do work is doing the same will we do work is doing the same will we do because that is what I also want to do now watch it in that instance you are not dealing with a spiritual person you are dealing with a prophet you are not are dealing with a spiritual person you are not are dealing with a spiritual person you are dealing with a prophet so he said if anybody things contrary of the writings that I have pinned down says Paul if anybody thinks contrary to them then Paul if anybody thinks contrary to them then Paul if anybody thinks contrary to them then the only people that are justified the only people that are justified the only people that are justified to critique my writings are that they must to critique my writings are that they must to critique my writings are that they must be prophets or they must be spiritual be prophets or they must be spiritual be prophets or they must be spiritual otherwise they let him that is ignorant otherwise they let him that is ignorant otherwise they let him that is ignorant be ignorant still be ignorant still be ignorant still prophet or spiritual so that brings us to a prophet or spiritual so that brings us to a prophet or spiritual so that brings us to a dichotomy of decision for religion dichotomy of decision for religion dichotomy of decision for religion there are people who came into religion there are people who came into religion there are people who came into religion not because of spirituality they came not because of spirituality they came not because of spirituality they came into religion because of encounters of into religion because of encounters of into religion because of encounters of the prophetic dimension nobody preached the prophetic dimension nobody preached the prophetic dimension nobody preached to them they were in their womb in Saudi to them they were in their womb in Saudi to them they were in their womb in Saudi Arabia and Jesus appeared to them and Arabia and Jesus appeared to them and Arabia and Jesus appeared to them and told them I'm Jesus who was of Nazareth told them I'm Jesus who was of Nazareth told them I'm Jesus who was of Nazareth died three days resurrected seated at the died three days resurrected seated at the died three days resurrected seated at the right time of the Majesty on high to right time of the Majesty on high to right time of the Majesty on high to whom the father has committed all whom the father has committed all whom the father has committed all judgments your soul will be required of judgments your soul will be required of judgments your soul will be required of you in the day that you will exit this you in the day that you will exit this you in the day that you will exit this world and you would stand before my face world and you would stand before my face world and you would stand before my face and give account on your life then the and you would stand before my face and give account on your life then the person went down power prophetic person went down power prophetic person went down power prophetic dimension cut up experiences is what dimension cut up experiences is what dimension cut up experiences is what convince them nobody had to open Genesis convince them nobody had to open Genesis convince them nobody had to open Genesis to Revelation whether there was a Bible to Revelation whether there was a Bible to Revelation whether there was a Bible or there was no Bible they are or there was no Bible they are or there was no Bible they are convinced not by the canon of religion convinced not by the canon of religion convinced not by the canon of religion but by the display of encounters listen but by the display of encounters listen but by the display of encounters listen how will you convince Paul to stop how will you convince Paul to stop how will you convince Paul to stop being in a Judaism when he was a doctor being in a Judaism when he was a doctor being in a Judaism when he was a doctor in Judaism how would you win Paul you can in Judaism how would you win Paul you can in Judaism how would you win Paul you can only win Paul over to your religion only win Paul over to your religion only win Paul over to your religion when at midday on his way to Damascus a when at midday on his way to Damascus a when at midday on his way to Damascus a broad glistening shining dazzling light broad glistening shining dazzling light broad glistening shining dazzling light beamed over his face strike him down beamed over his face strike him down beamed over his face strike him down cause him to get by and he had a voice cause him to get by and he had a voice cause him to get by and he had a voice and the voices so he wondered who knew and the voices so he wondered who knew and the voices so he wondered who knew his name he wondered who this was his name he wondered who this was his name he wondered who this was instantly Paul said you are my Lord and instantly Paul said you are my Lord and instantly Paul said you are my Lord and you are my master nobody preached any you are my master nobody preached any you are my master nobody preached any message to him nobody told him about the message to him nobody told him about the message to him nobody told him about the death and the resurrection of Jesus it death and the resurrection of Jesus it death and the resurrection of Jesus it was my an encounter Paul said from today was my an encounter Paul said from today was my an encounter Paul said from today I'll stop being a Judaism I'm gonna I'll stop being a Judaism I'm gonna I'll stop being a Judaism I'm gonna follow Jesus encounter encounter and follow Jesus encounter encounter and follow Jesus encounter encounter and counter when Paul converted the counter when Paul converted the counter when Paul converted the Christians themselves doubted his Christians themselves doubted his Christians themselves doubted his conversion we all know that Paul was a conversion we all know that Paul was a conversion we all know that Paul was a chosen vessel and yet the believers chosen vessel and yet the believers chosen vessel and yet the believers doubted his conversion we have it in doubted his conversion we have it in doubted his conversion we have it in Ghana we have it how Ghana we have it how Ghana we have it how did he convince them when he told them did he convince them when he told them did he convince them when he told them of his encounter when he stood the test of his encounter when he stood the test of his encounter when he stood the test of time when he had one person called of time when he had one person called of time when he had one person called Barnabas who said I believe in his Barnabas who said I believe in his Barnabas who said I believe in his conversion I asked for me I believe conversion I asked for me I believe conversion I asked for me I believe listen don't think that if a man of God listen don't think that if a man of God listen don't think that if a man of God stands up in solidarity with Nanak stands up in solidarity with Nanak stands up in solidarity with Nanak rather than man of God is false you see rather than man of God is false you see rather than man of God is false you see how you people look at things that man how you people look at things that man how you people look at things that man of God may be a Barnabas allow the man of God may be a Barnabas allow the man of God may be a Barnabas allow the man of God don't think that the man of God of God don't think that the man of God of God don't think that the man of God is going into a certain Association or is going into a certain Association or is going into a certain Association or going to do some kinky stuff God is the going to do some kinky stuff God is the going to do some kinky stuff God is the one that saves all men you are not the one that saves all men you are not the one that saves all men you are not the savior of this world allow God to be God savior of this world allow God to be God savior of this world allow God to be God you don't even know yourself you have not you don't even know yourself you have not you don't even know yourself you have not even decoded who you are and yet you even decoded who you are and yet you even decoded who you are and yet you want to explain everything please want to explain everything please want to explain everything please spirituality is not the way it is spirituality is not the way it is spirituality is not the way it is explained there are times people walk explained there are times people walk explained there are times people walk into faith because of encounter into faith because of encounter into faith because of encounter encounter but listen we cannot all leave encounter but listen we cannot all leave encounter but listen we cannot all leave the transformation work of converting the transformation work of converting the transformation work of converting people to faith to encounter if we do people to faith to encounter if we do people to faith to encounter if we do that we will not get anywhere because that we will not get anywhere because that we will not get anywhere because Jesus is not ready to reveal himself to Jesus is not ready to reveal himself to Jesus is not ready to reveal himself to everybody Jesus he's not ready and you everybody Jesus he's not ready and you everybody Jesus he's not ready and you know the interesting thing that he know the interesting thing that he know the interesting thing that he brought across blessed are you that have brought across blessed are you that have brought across blessed are you that have not seen and yet believe you are more not seen and yet believe you are more not seen and yet believe you are more blessed if you have you seen it yet you blessed if you have you seen it yet you believe so now those without encounters should not think they are higher they are rather lower Thomas says as for me if I don't sin I will never believe you can preach anything make meaning of anything Jesus he's dead he's not resurrected Thomas unless I i see him that will not be enough unless i put this my finger feeling through his soul because three days he must have it it will not be dead and unless i put my hand through his side i will never believe do you know why there are many of you you are converts of other people's faith not of your own faith thomas is not a doubting thomas he is a believing for myself thomas a lot of you you hang on people's testimonies somebody said this my pastor said that my father said this my mother said this a lot of you are christians because your parents are christians thomas says i am in a company i don't care whether peter said they have seen him if all the nine says they have seen jesus as for me whether everybody's i want to see him for myself i don't want to hang my faith on somebody's words i want to be a prophet of my own experience jesus was listening to him in a weak sign jesus appeared and said thomas when you were speaking i was right here this is me and usually when you face encounter or your mouth or your mouth hey some of you say if i meet god the questions i'll ask him you've not met him the day we meet god that you lie the glory of his presence will slay you you will be caught up in the experience and you say oh my lord the my god that is what happened to thomas thomas all the things he said he would do he didn't do it when you saw him he just went on his knees and said ah you are truly god now some of you when you are in your room alone then he starts saying if you are god why am i suffering so thunder strikes you are god please don't strike me here there's a story of a guy that prayed and prayed and was going for an american visa he prayed and prayed and prayed when he went he was bounced when he came out he was so disappointed in himself and in the god he was seven then all of a sudden he started raining he said see what you are doing instead of doing very important things of giving me my visa to travel to the us you you are pouring rain on me so that what all of a sudden he said when i'm saying these things that you want to kill me too that is god that is god people listen religion you convince people with words you convince people with money then you convince people with power what is words wisdom what is money force wisdom is a force money is a force what is power force so there are the three forces of religion the three forces of religion money power and wisdom money power and wisdom the three forces of religion power and wisdom the three forces of religion if any church will endure times they must have money they must have power they must have word wisdom these three things you take the world you take the world with money you take the world with power you take the world with wisdom what are you saying how much money do you have how much power are you able to display three things religion stands on these three
Speaker 1money power wisdom thanks so much for listening we trust that you've been blessed with truth for life be sure to subscribe to the dr obeda being a day podcast to receive new messages every week until next time remain blessed shalom
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