How to Train Your Brain for Better Focus, Recovery, and Performance with Dr. Patrick Porter

[MUSIC] A lot of people have imposter syndrome because they don't get their brain in their body to connect. So then they become successful when they all falls apart because they don't believe it. They have all the physical talents and in sports, it's usually not the most talented person that wins. It's the one that thinks they can. So there's going to be just like in your wrestling there or you get to, you're going to, when there's somebody has an offensive, you're going to have a defensive, right? Counter. So the more you have that hard-wired endocrinology, the faster it's going to be. Before we start, I want to tell you this. If you're waiting for your life to slow down before you take control of your health and your body, it's not happening. Life doesn't slow down. There's always going to be another deal, another deadline, another trip, another fire to put out, another reason to put it off. 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Because if I remember correctly, you said that your dad was really into personal development. And during that conversation with you, I couldn't help but to think of the parallels where I was really interested in psychology and then got into brain science. Talk about how having a father who's into personal development, like how that led the way, or if it had any effect at all, I mean, to what you do today. Certainly did. My dad changed his whole parenting style. He first used the silver method to help him stop drinking. Then he then he was bit by the self help bug. Then he went back to school to be a psychologist. And I think one of the things that changed for us was the way he parented. It was totally different than before when he was an addict and you know, he has problems with alcohol. I'll give you an example. When we got when we got in trouble in the porterhouse, we didn't get sent to our room to think about what we did. He had a rose of self help books. We had to go over the bookshelf, pick out a book, and then go read it until we found something we could apply in our life. Then we had to come out and tell him how we were going to apply it. And we got a probationary 24 hours. If we were applying those principles, we got to stay ungrounded. And his whole thought was that in prison, they teach, they send people to prison, but they don't get making do at their time. So they're in their scheming about how they can get away with whatever they did instead of what could they've done differently. And I think that was one thing. And then he also had a saying that one of the books that was really instrumental was as a man thinketh. Because in there, it says, you know, that what you think in your heart is going to become reality for you. Really, it's basically what they're saying in the book. And there's a place that's in its end of Bible, too. It's just faith without works is dead. And he says, you can have all these goals. You can do all these things. So we had to set down and do goals. You know, when I'm 12 years old, I don't want to sit down and do goals. I want to go out and play with my friends. And then we had to break down those goals into what we were going to do on a daily basis. So he said, if we do the daily basis, he said, if you do these small things every day, these big things will happen. And they did. I mean, it was like, so I didn't have the, I mean, you want to have the big things out there to know, like the milestones. But the reality was, what am I going to do on a daily basis that's going to change? And one of his favorite things was it's not what you do occasionally. It's what you do daily. And I think those things kind of are kind of guiding me still to this day. What do I do daily that's going to, I always have a plan every day. I get up. I spend about two hours on myself getting myself ready for what I'm going to do, whether it's doing my cold plunge, doing my sauna, doing my lights, doing my brain tap, whatever it is. And then, and then every other day, I do physical workouts, you know, to keep my muscles going. But I have a plan every morning. I'll take care of myself first because you know, you don't have too much good to other people if you're not taking care of yourself. So those are some some key points my dad made. Yeah, fascinating. And when did you get into neuroscience? Was that something you were always interested in when you got into school? But you have your PhD. That's a long journey. That's a lot of work, right? It's an unimaginable amount of work. So talk about why neuroscience. I kind of fell into it. I didn't really know I was getting into it. If you can imagine back in the late 80s or early 90s, there was no neuroscience like this. We were doing, I went to school for a psychology in my degrees in Christian counseling. And so I would just go really learn about the Bible and helping people in churches to keep their faith and to overcome diversity. And then I did that for about a year and I realized, even though it takes a lot of hard to do that, it's one of those things that I knew I had to make more money. That was the driver because when you're a counselor of church, you know, they don't they can't pay you don't get paid. They have five dollars to give you five dollars. And so so I went back to school and learned some things that I got to do. I got to create my background before that was my dad was a silver instructor. So the silver method uses a sound in the classroom. We would call that the isochronic tone sound, but at the time, they just called the silver sound. And what it would do is we would use GSR machines to to test it. But everybody would synchronize to 10 hertz frequency, which is alpha to super learning state during the seminars. This was back in the 70s and 80s. So I always was wondering how did that work? I was very curious about that. So I got a job in Scottsdale, Arizona working with the company called Light and Sound Research. There's all story around that, but I was one of their researchers. So we were we were looking at LEDs in relation to how lights work and how they change brain function. And so very based stuff that we were doing. But what we were trying to do is get people out of pain and we did we showed them if we can get them into alpha and theta that pain diminishes in some cases goes away completely. But it wasn't neurofeedback even then it wasn't neuro anything it was still that was biofeedback, you know, we were looking at you know with skin temperature, respiration these kind of things. And then what happened was they came out with something called the mind mirror, which was one of the very first commercially available EEG machines. Nothing like what we have today. I mean if you saw today people think that's such a joke, but it was a panel of LEDs and it would be it was show right left hemisphere which was more dominant. And it was very crude about the brain waves, but once I saw that we started working with it. I was bit. I'm going to learn more and more. So a lot of what I've learned over the years was through professional trainings, you know, I probably spend minimum of 40 hours a year in professional trainings still to this day. My dad is saying either you're green and growing or you're right in your body. So that was one of the things that he built into my brain and my mindset so. I'm whether I'm going to a conference and being a speaker and then I stay in the classrooms and listen to some of these guys because there's a lot of really smart people out there and they're learning so much. Every day this this world is changing we're learning so much about just at a cellular level even you know what drives behavior how DNA works into this equation. You know when I talk to people about it they're like blown away you know there's codes in the body that are activated by the light we have light sensors in our eyes that are very unique and specific that are activated by blue light that in there's certain things that we take for granted but once you get the science you start to understand how people with these type of behaviors get the maximum physical mental and emotional results rather than the people that aren't because there's the brain and body are working together just I think mostly it's I'm one of those people that I can never learn enough. You know so I'm always out there I'm not fixed on what I know I try to go into situations without kind of like what my dad would tell us is like I'm they say I guess in Buddhism too but they say you know going with the child's mind you know if I go in there with everything that I know and I'm not going to be too open to learning. And what we know is in thinking of quantum physics because I'm also the dean of brain based medicine at quantum university when you only when you think you have the way you've actually shut down all neurological pathways to any other choices. So it's really important in a learning environment that we keep our mind open so those neural pathways that's why think of a neuron as an infinite portal to possibilities but as soon as you connect it to something you think you know or you think you have the right way i'll just use a medical curriculum for that because if you go to a doctor all he's doing is going to his. His death reference manual he's putting a set of problems into it it spits out a drug that's not a solution a drug is not a solution these problems because the drug a drug the body becomes dependent on the drug what is what is that drugs supposed to do what's the mechanism of action that's what we should be looking at what other behaviors attitudes beliefs treatments to get that mechanism of action to happen. One of my favorite things I use it almost every day is you can't have the pill without the skill so you've got to learn the skill while you're taking the pill it's okay to take the pill if you need to ensure terms but you know and i'm so i'm always fascinated with you know the body is doing all the work anyway and the subconscious level in the minds playing a part in it but your mind everyone out there listening your mind is only control in five percent of your world your subconscious is controlling the rest and that's why you have to train it you have to spend time to actively train the brain or you're going to be able to do that. You're going to train the brain or it trains you based on your life experiences and you know people you're ready to train you. and attitudes you have, but it'll do it unconsciously. So you want to have a little bit more control. And that's what fascinated me, because as I said, when I was younger, I was a troubled kid. My dad retrained my brain. It didn't take long. After six months, two years, I was doing this on my own. I remember asking for Christmas one year, this is when cassettes were out there. So those people listening that remember cassettes, I got a thing in the mail, in a catalog we were looking at. And it was a alarm clock that would wake you up to your cassette. So you can put your own music in as what they say. But I asked my dad, I said, can I get this for Christmas? I said, I want to do my affirmations. So my affirmations would wake me up every morning, and I'm still do something like that today. So that way, the first thing I hear in the morning is what my achievements, what I really want to-- because you've got to keep your top of the mind awareness on what you really want to achieve, if not something else would become more important. And then those goals become secondary. And really, I say goals, but I mean outcomes. What outcomes do I want to have today? Who am I going to talk to? What am I going to do? When I get on this podcast, I'm going to be open to answering questions. I want to hopefully, if I can get one new thought and somebody's mind out there, I know the whole brain's going to have to require around that new thought. So I'm thinking these kinds of things. How can I word things? How can I state things so that there's something of value out there? What I love about what you're saying is that I don't think a lot of people-- they don't realize about this idea of training your brain, how this subconscious is running the show. And it's important, right? Because if subconscious wasn't running the show, then every time you got in your car, you'd have to think, OK, so how do I drive this car again? No, you have a program. But we don't realize that just like you have-- now you can-- when I first started driving, I was-- I shouldn't even got my driver's license, right? I'm lucky to have received it. I'm lucky she didn't fail me. But now if I drive a car, I can park on the phone. And sometimes I'll arrive somewhere. And I won't even know how I got-- like, whoa, I'm already here. And I didn't get into an accident. I was using the hands-free or the AirPods. So I wasn't actually talking on the physical phone. But those are programs that we run. And the way that got programmed into my brain is through reputation, reputation, reputation. And people-- I feel like, at least from the conversations I have with people, they don't realize that the things that they do or the things that they've done, especially growing up, creates these programs, kind of like what your dad did for you after he learned about these techniques. So what I'd love to do is to also talk about something you're very passionate about. When I was on your show, you had all these forms I had to fill out. And you were very clear. You want to promote evidence-based strategies. Because Patrick, I feel like we're in this amazing, incredible world. You still do 40 hours a week of continuing education. A lot of people won't aren't, let's say, professionally in the health field, though. They're following their favorite TikTok, Instagram, or X Influencer, maybe podcasts. And people say things. And it's just like, oh, is that true? So can you talk about the importance-- like, why is being evidence-based so important? Well, I think today, more than ever, we're being bombarded by every influencer on the planet. Everybody's an instant hero. Or you go take a training, you go figure out a piece of information. There's no backup evidence for that. So I always say a master-- of course, they've mastered themselves, but they have other masters that they've created. They've done the same thing. They've done maybe even better than them. That way, the teachings are there. So for me, I think that when I make a statement, like we did with our dementia study, and I say that we reverse dementia 100% in six weeks. Here's the study. Here's exactly what they did. Now, we have a bigger college, 88 people, same things happening. We're doing it in our 3,000 clinics, same things happening. But if I told somebody just off the streets, I can help somebody with dementia. And it's, you know, you can get rid of it in six weeks. They're going to look at me. They're going to laugh, because they don't realize it's an energy equation. So if the brain voltage drops below 7, you're going to have dementia symptoms. It's just like running any other electrical circuit. If you don't have the electricity to run that circuit, it's not going to run. If it drops below 4, you're going to have Alzheimer's. So what is the mechanism of action? Light. We need to get more ATP going in the brain. Now, exercise is a big part of that, right? So we haven't been doing planks by the end of the time. Right, I think six weeks they're doing planks. They're doing, they're doing full squats. They're doing things that they never thought they could. We didn't make them do them at first. We, there's a strategy for that, right? You can't over push the muscles, but you need to stress those out. And we need to get the BDNA, which is the miracle growth for the brain. We need to get that growing. And then we got to get them to practice brain wave and treatment because the brain has been unpowered as an example for the listeners. If you spoke more than two languages as a child, there's a circuit in your brain that doesn't shut off. And you learn languages faster and easier than other people. If you only learn one language, the brain, which is an energy hog, it weighs only two pounds, but uses 20% of the energy of the system, it's if it doesn't have to light up that circuitry, it doesn't. And so what happens is that that circuit goes dormant. So just like the example you gave of getting the car and him to learn how to do everything again, the brain's going to have to start up that circuit, learn everything again. Now it's possible, right? You can brute force it. I learned Spanish in school, but you wouldn't know. I had a year of Spanish. You hear me speak Spanish because it wasn't hardwired. Because when you're a kid and you're learning, you're in a high state of alpha and theta. When you're an adult, you're in a higher state of beta, which is reactionary. You're just pulling information in. When you're in alpha and theta, you're actually interplaying. There's an interplay. So if you can imagine in a learning state, I need to put you back into the best learning state possible. In fact, those bright news are called hyprnesia, super memory. And what I tell people, it's not, they're not habits. Don't think of them as habits anymore. Think of your life as a series of rituals. Because those rituals bear fruit. Whatever you're doing today, whatever you're doing on a day to even the way you brush your teeth, the way you shave, the way you do all these. There's a certain way. And if things are out of order, you get upset or there might be a little agitation, like what happened to my toothpaste? What happened to-- these kind of things, just little things, because the circuits are used to running and when they connect. So when you say evidence-based or you have-- some people will use a series of anecdotal evidence. Like they might have a series of people as cheerleaders that got good results with their stuff. But people, I found, they don't believe those either anymore. Like somebody telling you-- I mean, of course, videos are always better than audio. And audio is better than written all these ways because we're convincing people. But something, if you can have real science, that is verifiable. And other people can prove it. Like my studies, it's never just brain to-- in fact, the ones that we published are not brain-tapped at all. They're universities. Mimicking studies, we did in the lab. But if we do them in the lab, people won't believe them either. But if we can get like Aims Bo Paul to do it, or Duke University, or Semino College, or like we did follow up one with Harvard, whatever school you're going to go to, they're going to validate it. They're going to take the credit for it too. That's OK for me because it's still proving out what I want. And most of them I'm listed on as a research guide. But we let them do this because we want it to be as far off hands-off as possible because I know how you can manipulate numbers in research. Some of the research isn't so valid. So I always ask people, when you look at research, look who funded the research. We never funded any of our research. The university picked it up and did it because we had a compelling story, and they had a graduate student that wanted to get their PhD or their masters by doing that study. So important. Yeah, reproducibility and also-- if someone's funded a study, it doesn't always mean that it's not good. But it definitely calls into question conflicting interest right, a conflict of interest. So it's really cool to hear that you've done that. I want to get into brain tap. And why it's important how it's different from other ways of training our brain. Before that, though, I want to talk a little bit about brain waves because you've referenced brain waves a bit. Can you talk about what the average person who's maybe heard theta alpha-- I've had other people on the show talk about that, but just to dive into that a little bit more, what should the person average person know about brain waves? Well, the one thing is when you're in a fear state, frustration, anxiety, you're probably in a high beta state. We call that the reactionary mind. If you do that too often, your brain will pattern to that. Now, it's OK to have beta. Beta's not a bad thing. If we didn't do it, we wouldn't be able to drive back. What is that? Can you explain what that means? What your brain-- if you spend a lot of time there because I feel like a lot of people do these days, what does that mean? It'll pattern to that beta brain wave. Yeah, so think of your brain waves like fingerprints. Everyone has a unique brain wave pattern. We call it a symphony of brain waves. You never have an isolation of just one brain wave. If you did, you wouldn't be able to function. So think of these brain waves also as Wi-Fi networks. And do you give an example? We did our study with autistic children. When we got them up to 23% of their brain wave activity in alpha, when they were awake, 90% of them started speaking without a speech pathologist. That means the ability to speak didn't come from a lesson. It was in 80. It was part of that brain wave state. So that's why when you think of people that have a fear of speaking and they say they can't remember things, they stutter, that's because if you have too much beta, it actually suppresses alpha. You only have 100%. So think of 100% of your energy. And so if you have 45% beta, that's perfect. Don't see that very often. But let's say-- and Wi's who's one of our researchers, she came up with what she called the master brain wave. It's not just what I'm saying. brainwave, it's all of them. So think of when I say pattern, let's say what we see in the new, the pattern we see today is which will frighten you. 90% of the people we see have over 60% of the brain in delta. So think of delta is the, you're supposed to be in delta when you sleep. So I, what I'm seeing in the, is a brain profile or the fingerprint is like the sleeping profile. When that happens, those people that have that, there's a couple of reasons I can have it. One is they have a damage that could be a problem. There could be high toxins in the brain or their environment or their thoughts could be negative. But either way, they have a lot of inflammation in the body. And that inflammation shows up as high delta because the body knows in order to deal with that inflammation, you have to stop making so much inflammation. So it knows, hey, if you go to sleep, your body's going to heal itself because that's when the body does most of its healing. Most people don't realize that during sleep, you have more neurological activity than you do in your awake. And by the way, you have every brainwave going when you're sleeping, except beta. So really, that's the only difference between being awake or being asleep. Beta gets turned off. So this should be very little, there's to be a little because you want to know like, like a sleeping mother will hear their child cry three bedrooms down when the dad might not because in their particular activating system or their default mode network, they're not so concerned. They know the baby can cry. They'll be all right. But the mother jumps up and, you know, runs down the hall, even though it's not perceptible to the conscious mind. But there's that, there's that connection because that beta brain is still there. That's why if a loud noise happens, or something happens in your house, you're still there because it's just there a little bit. Now, the one brainwave that they're really giving a lot of emphasis to today because of dementia and Alzheimer's and things is gamma. Now gamma, it was used to be associated with high anxiety and things like that. But now they know if somebody has, let's say, 5% or more of their brain in gamma, they're probably very good at something. Like what we find is that they're very good at sports. Like athletes that have that. I mean, I had somebody in here the other day that was 54% gamma. Now, that's a little too much. But they were, they were like a high performer. They could, you give them a problem. They would just, because this is a, it's a higher state of theta. Now, get to that in a minute. But think of gamma as the bass drum. What they find is as the brain gets older and gets stressed out and doesn't repair and we started losing energy that they start losing gamma. And think if you don't have the bass drum, you can't keep the band together. So think of gamma as the bass drum of the brain. And this is a, this is 40, 40 beats, 40 cycles per second or higher. It could go, I mean, they've done studies with Buddhist monks meditating at 300 cycles. But the average person won't go over 80 or 88, typically. So when these are cycles, so think of it like electric circuits and these circuits are broadcasting out. And that's, they're very low frequency because if we measure the brain, we have to put some probes on the brain. Now, if we measure the heart rate, which a lot of people have a HRB or heart rate variability, we can measure that actually from a 18 feet away because it's magnetic. This is electrical. This is magnetic. So these two fields work together. And by the way, your heart is dictating what brain waves are creating. It has what they're called neutrino cells that actually broadcast to communicate within the body twice as much the body's the body does. That's why we can use HRV like for training and recovery and things out because the HRV is tuning in. And we can also do ECG, which means we can get, we don't have to use EEG for the brain. We can use ECG, which means the heart actually has the information about the brain's frequencies. And it broadcasts that out to the body because when you're in a high state of beta and you need to run, you don't want the body to have to interpret anything. It just says, we're going to drop that, we're going to open up the liver's sugar stores, 25 grams of sugar, dump it out into the system. The body, now you're supposed to be running from something. But if you're sitting at your phone or sitting in traffic or you're doing that sugar has to go somewhere. So the insulin pump has to kick on, you know the whole drill. And now you have insulin lock in the body because you're too much circulating sugar in the body doesn't know to do with it because it was it was really caused by brain wave activity because the brain was overproducing, overdoing at that moment. So then when we drop into, we said alpha was the intuitive bind. That's where you go and you're doing your creative work. You're maybe you were the friend or family member and time seems to fly. That's when you have more alpha in your day dreaming, you're just creative, you're going with the flow. Now what we find in our studies here, we've studied over 30,000 brains is that most people are missing theta when they're awake. This is why they can't sleep. So theta is responsible for we say breakthrough thinking because it actually bridges the unconscious to the conscious. So you can have, you know, and also it's responsible for triggering GABA production. GABA is an inhibitor neurotransmitter which means you can if you have a lot of stress going on, worry, things like that. It will help you to down regulates you don't over, you know, over-emphasize the negatives, you know, things like that. But GABA also is a precursor to DMT. So a lot of people doing a psilocybin in these psychedelics to try to have the breakthrough. What they're really doing is they're trying to get more bait, they're trying to get more theta activity going because this is where in theta and gamma seem to be have a tita-tata relationship. So, you know, you, whichever one is more, you kind of controls the story, the show, but each of these frequencies also of the four neurotransmitters we have. And a neurotransmitter is what connects those, you have a thought and connects with another thought there's a little neurotransmitter. That's what you call transmitter. So it takes neurology and transmitz it from this area to that area in such a recruit cells. If you don't have neurotransmitters, you'll have mental disorders. Like today, when they say we have a mental health crisis in the world, I say we have a physiological crisis in the world. They're not moving and breathing, they're not lifting heavy weights, they're not getting their brain to do. We need to have periods of stress and we need to have periods of non-stress. Right now, we have periods of stress that seem to go from one period of stress to another kind of stress to another kind of stress to another kind of stress. And people are taking that time out to recover. And if you don't have recovery, you don't have growth. Just like in a weightlifting, I can't lift every day the same thing the same way my muscles are going to atrophy. But if I mix it up and do, you know, you're the expert at that, but when you mix it up, that you're giving the muscles time to recover. Now you can go back and stress them out again. Then you go to recover. And pretty soon the body starts to build muscle because it realizes, you know, that these things are going to be happening. It starts really future pacing, we call it. Start thinking about what possible things could happen in the future. Now I've lifted weights for the last whatever, let's say three years and you're getting all these, so it goes, those are good chance. I'm going to be lifting weights, you know, within the near future. So I better, you know, build muscle, be ready for that stress. And then the more you build, the more you, you know, you keep having to stress out the system. So we only learn and grow under stress too, by the way. That's that's one of the laws of neurology that says that those neurons and fire together, wire together and those neurons that don't fire on wire. So if you're not working out and you're not stressing your body, your body will continue just like that circuit I was talking about with learning languages, it'll just start unplugging circuits. This has been happening since the moment you were born. One of the most frightening things out there for every leader and everybody out there is that you are the smartest person you're ever going to be when you're born. You're at a 100 billion nerve-wracking process or fully wired. You learned a whole environment, you learned how to speak, you learned how to walk, you know, all these things, but you learned from from whatever our DNA structure is when we start and the influence of mom and dad, but we really had to start turning on those mirror neurons to in a very big way. So your brain was 18.1 volts then. So as we age, it goes down. Everybody listening, you're probably around 10 to 11 volts, which is good. That's where we kind of max out after 21 and then it should remain that way until we die. But what happens is we have neuropruning, which means the brain continuously is looking through per ways to save energy, conserve energy. Let's keep unplugging the brain. These brain waves when you recruit them, when you do different, now this is something we used to do in nature. So we walked near a forest, we walked near a in a forest, we're now triggering alpha activity, tenor's frequency. When we step by the water, we triggered that, when we climb them out and we're triggering theta. So our lifestyle used to trigger these brain waves, but now we're sitting in the houses. We have our own lights, we're indoors, we're not getting outside, we're not grounding, all the things that bring about a healthy body. So we have to do some what they like to call it there in the world today, biohacking or health optimizing based on your lifestyle. But we're really changing gears within our brain structure to get those to happen. Because also memories are connected to these brain states. So then that recruits information we need to make good decisions. Patrick, thanks for the clinic on brain waves and the connection with our daily lives and learning. And now I want to, you know, since you brought up biohacking, let's talk about brain tap. Because what I love about brain tap is you've done all these studies, you've talked about how yeah, you've funded some, but you also got these other universities to get involved to pick up on your idea because there was something very interesting there. So talk about brain tap what it is. And why it's important for someone listening, why they should consider it with all the other options out there to train their brain. Sure. Well, one of the things in the biohacking world, I would say that at least 75 to 80% of all biohackers have brain tap. When I go to Dave Asprey's event, there'll be two to three thousand people in the audience and we'll say who's got a brain tap, almost everybody raised their hand because we can measure its results. And when you think about brain fitness rather than physical fitness, of course physical fitness, we need time between to get our muscles grow with our brain. We also need time between to get our neuron structure to grow. But it's different. We can do up to three sessions a day. And the reason that's important is in the morning you need a different training. In the morning you need to train your brain to trigger neuropronephyrnephrine, cortisol, and theopronephyrnephrine. So, we call it digital coffee. So, it's a different, it's not meditation we're actually training the brain to recruit these through neuro networks. And so, we're using light-sonic vibration to that every one of the processes [BLANK_AUDIO] brain tap are all validated without brain tap. So what I did was I married technologies that were already proven and then just like a relationship, just like if you were a leader in a company and you wanted to bring the better best C-suite team, you got to make sure you get the best C-suite team to get those results. So what I did, I think of I went out and said what is what is the one thing we can do? So first we started using binaural beats because they were very available in the 70s. And then we said what if we do the same thing that the binaural beats are doing but we do it light. What would happen with the brain? And what we found out was we recruited more neurological activities. So it's just like lifting more weights or running distance more distance. So the brain got to exercise a little bit more. And then we have to move the brain because what we found out was if you listen to the same thing for a certain period of time, your brain will just consider like wallpaper. It's no longer a threat. It's no longer triggering activity. It's just there like like music that might play in the background or if you live near a train track and the trains go by, you know, somebody comes home and goes, how can you live here? Those trains go by and you go, I don't even notice the trains anymore because your your brain says that's not a danger anymore. I don't have to worry about it. It basically is very good at filtering out things. So we have to keep tricking the brain really by bringing new information. So then he said, why do we add in isochronic tones? The difference between a binaural beat and an isochronic tone is that the binaural beat needs speakers, like needs earphones because you need to feed in different information. And what we found out was when you hear information in the right ear, the left brain lights up when you do put information left ear, the you know, vice versa. Your brain is doing this mix. And then when then when we add in another monom, this is a mono isochronic tones are mono. So this is what Silva did when I talked about the civil sound earlier. So this sound don't you don't need earphones. But what it did, it bridges the gap between somebody who doesn't have perfect hearing because if you don't have perfect hearing in both the ears, by neural beats, we found don't work. The brain dysregulates. It needs they or it creates a different tone than you and 10 because it's it's for those who don't know how by neural beats work. If I put a 200 Hertz frequency in one ear and a 210 Hertz frequency in the other, the brain doesn't hear the 200 or the 210. It hears a phantom sound of 10 Hertz, the difference. So in the spooky thing is that we're doing this all the time. And I and so when we did the sound, now what we did was we said now with light back about 10 years ago, we were doing the studies with artistic kids and these were nonverbal kids. So we had no if they were hearing us, understanding us. So what we what we started, there was a lot of work being done on energizing the cells of the body through light and they call them chromiforms. These are little right now every one of you have every cell of your body has something called a chromiform. Think of it as a battery that absorbs information that then triggers the body to if you have enough energy, you can make ATP and then that amplifies everything. So what we want to do is how could we use frequency like a noj frequency, a sofidio frequency or a right frequency. These are all frequencies tested in science. And how can we use those to trigger different regions of the brain. So even though we don't talk about those during the sessions, all of our sessions have these frequencies built into them. And they're all for very whatever, let's say that we're doing the one that says current procrastination and demotivation. So what we're going to recruit is we're going to be recruiting more. We're going to be turning off the amygdala, which hijacks the blood flow to the frontal lobe. We're going to be turning on the frontal lobe energy because that's where that executive function is. And nobody really procrastinates what they do is they prioritize. Something becomes more important than the one thing they want to do because we're always doing everything we need to do or want to do. We're not in what I mean need pretty soon you put things off to the point you have to do them or you can't, you know, the car won't function or something. But if we want to do it, then you know, so what we're doing is we're changing the priorities. And it's really about being honest with yourself because and that's why I say turn procrastination and demotivation because if it's really something you need to be done, but you're focusing there's some little things that keep getting in the way that like gravel under your feet just keep slipping away because the other other problems happen. You have to set a priority or a boundary and you have to it has to be well-fought out. And that's where the right that's where the frontal lobe comes in. If you use the amygdala, that's the emotional side. You'll make excuses while you're not getting it done. And those excuses are not going to serve you. That's why we have a saying here you either have results or excuses. You can have both. So if you want to give yourself excuses, you're not going to get the results. So in the brain works very specifically. So when we're doing these sessions, so when we started using light in the years, we said how much light in the years do we need? And we looked at lasers because a lot of our doctors are using lasers because in a regular therapy, which is it's actually like a Chinese medicine. They would use needles or seeds or even the finger. They might press the ear and get different things to happen in the body. And the new science called photo biomodulation was just becoming popular then. And so I said, well, what if we put the lights in the years, what would happen? And so we use a no-gear frequency that actually turns the nervous system off. It down regulates the nervous system like you're doing a guided imagery or relaxation technique, but it's doing it with light. No words. And those so the ear lights are actually pulsing. They're not solid. They're pulsing at different frequencies. And in the cell, every cell does this. The cells do this naturally. So we're using the natural process or what they call mechanism of action in the body. Every cell right now, whether you're under a light in a room, whatever, it's absorbing all the information from the room you're in right now. Even to every even things you don't think about. And it's making adjustments. Now what we know today, we didn't know then, but today we know that it's making adjustments to the DNA. That's what they call epigenetics. So every 40 seconds, every DNA pair in your body is rebraining. It's every 40 seconds or so. It's evaluating your environment. It's just it's always in a state of flux. So I was in a state of movement. You are not the same person. But for the listeners, think of this. There's a story that the ancient richie say and they say, you never step into the same river twice. So like I live on a river and I look at it, the new river, and it looks the same. But the reality is that's different water. There's different fish swimming there. The sediments at the bottom are different. That is a different river. I call it the same name. The same as you every morning when you get up. You are different. In fact, nobody listening here is, is physically older than seven years. Every, every system is changed. Now they don't all change at once. That's why there's a saying that you've died a thousand times because every moment, a part of you is dying and a part of you is being reborn because at a rate of 50 million cells per second, you're changing. Now where does it get its information from the electrical system, from your brain and where you stored information? Now that information is not just stored in the brain, it's stored in every cell as information and material. So the more energy we have, by eating properly, thinking properly, moving these kind of things, then that information flows down the body. One of the, that's why they say one of the biggest things you can do for mental health is check your distributor system or your balance. If you don't have a good balance, that's a sign you're on your way to some pretty bad neurological problems. So that's in, in, there's a few other things like your sense of smell because the, that cranial nerve one for the smell was the first nerve that you built in, when you're building your body as a baby, your body did that. So it's, that's why if you can't smell peanut butter, they say you're five years away from Alzheimer's. So the sense of smell is really important. Now we don't hardly get out of nature and do a lot of things with our smell. We're in the same environment smelling the same things. We need to, that's why it's, it's good to go out when they say smell the roses. You know, you know, we need to get out and in all of our senses need to be exercised. So the kise, kinesiology or the kinesthetic part of the body, we're doing that. We also, if you came to our lab, we have chairs that are zero gravity chairs that have sound transducers through them because they sound, you hear sound in every cell. Your, your, your, how it gets that information is, everything is vibrating and teaming with energy. So the, the cells are actually pulsating and breathing in the, they're oscillating. And if they, if they're in harmony, then we feel good. If they're out of harmony, then we might have an upset stomach. We might have an ache in the wrist or the elbow because the frequencies are not there. They create harmony. When your body's in a state of health and harmony, we don't have these negative states. We have neutral or positive states. Got it. Yeah. That was, well, I'll just say this right now. If you want to hear more from Dr. Patrick, make sure you go to his brain fitness podcast. You can find that out at braintap.briainetap.com. And that's the, the hub for all things that a braintap, including the podcast, but Patrick, you said so many important things. One of the things that struck me more recently is about the senses and how one of the biggest indicators for Alzheimer's or is a caring loss. Now, when I first heard that, I was like, that probably means like people aren't hearing things well. So they interact less and they're not as social because you don't want to get into conversations. And can you hear it? Can you say that again? And this is your world and feel free to follow up here. But it's no, it's what you said. It's that the hearing, the vibrations that go in the sound waves that go into your ear turn into vibrations through the whole auditory complex that produces a sound in your brain. It's like if you're not hearing as well, it doesn't stimulate your brain as much. It starts to atrophy. Like you talked about, we don't use our brains kind of like if we don't use our muscles, starts to atrophy. So, so it's really important while, you know, exercise and diet or key, there's these other things that are equally as important. So I'd like to dive into it if you have a follow up there go for it, but I'd like to dive into you know you talk about procrastination with using brain tap to deal with procrastination, which is as you said a prioritization issue not really you're putting off your deprioritizing and reprioritizing scrolling on your phone. What else do you use it for? You mentioned the study with autism, but for the person who's listening right now is probably over 40. Yeah, the main things that we work on and then we work with almost everything because we have a few thousand different sessions on the app. But the two things that we primarily anybody at any age, but especially if you're in the business of training and motivating other people and leading as a leader, you need to deal with your stress. If you don't have an answer for your stress, I don't care what else you do. So we help with down regularly, it's like in the middle of the afternoon, we have sessions that reboot the brain, which we showed at Google and Microsoft. We did a study with Julie Arn, which is now a book and it's becoming a book now, but it's also a Ted talk where she talks about how we took this the programmers, and we told him to do a 20 minute break in the middle of the day. At first, they resisted. They said we can't do that. We got too much work to do. But then because they were programmers, we could we could measure their output. So there was a very specific thing we could measure what we found out was when they did the session at that day, every day they did the session, they got 26% more work done on average. So that meant by taking a 20 minutes off, they actually got a day and a quarter's worth of work done. So what we're saying is people need brain breaks. They don't just need a break to go get a cup of coffee or do whatever they need them. And so when you think about that, so dealing with the stress, it's not about getting rid of stress. It's about building capacity to handle stress. You know, that capacity is what's going to make the difference. The next thing is sleep. And by the way, in that study, we didn't have to do any of our sleep programs, but we have a we have hundreds of sessions that help you to sleep better. But they didn't use any of them. They just use the afternoon one and they had a 54% improvement of their sleep score, because they got rid of the stress early in the day, and they didn't build up to the point they're in bed and they they're trying to get rid of all this stress and anxiety and the brain can't function. So, but downregulating the one of the reasons it's so important to prove to work on your stresses, that's the only time a part of the body called the glal lymphatic system, which was discovered in 2015. So imagine that they discovered a new part of the human anatomy before 2015. There was no map of the human body that showed the lip system going beyond the shoulders. But in fact, in every physiology book, it says that there's a blood vessel, there's an infestible, but the problem is that it doesn't activate until you're in level for sleep. So with two thirds of the world not sleeping, that means they're not detoxing. That means you're going to your brain's not going to work as good. Imagine you're in a toxic environment. You're not going to be able to breathe as well. You're not going to be able to function as well. Well, same things through the cells of the brain. We need to detoxify that happens at night when you're sleeping. And then those are two main things that are core to every program, but we have sports programs that people use. We have ones for football, for basketball, for almost every sport. And what does that do? How does using a brain tap improve? Like I get it with, you stimulate the brain with these various sense and right using the light and the ears and the vibration, the light in the eyes. And it do downregulate stress. If you do that, it'll help you sleep. But when it comes to sports performance for those people listening who play golf or tennis or like me, I do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. How does that lead to performance enhancement? Well, that sport starts in the brain. I don't care what sports you're doing. You have to think about what you're going to do. They say thoughts are ancestors to action. So you can do the actions, but if you get in a state of stress because you haven't rehearsed it. That's why battlefield testing. You know, if you're in the military, you do that. And we've done a lot of tests with the military. And we showed them when you're under a stress, that's not a bad thing. But if you don't recover from that stress, it could be because the recovery phase is so important. So you do the physical workout. Now you've got this BD and F going. You got this miracle, go for the brain. You've got your you got the right physiology. But the reality is that you don't get neuroplasticity unless you take at least five to 10 minutes after that time to rest. Because if you just change gears to get the brain, let's say you're just working out and you had a great workout, but you didn't stop and take five minutes to let that settle, which means you can now rehearse in the mind what you just did in the physical. If you do that, then the brain hard wires that neurology. Now the next time you come in, you don't have to learn it again. Now you can amplify it. And each time you start amplifying it. When Tom Brady was using our devices, you know, when you think about going at it half time, you just thrown three interceptions. And you come out and win the Super Bowl. Well, you know, I wasn't there, but they say his his chiropractor was using brain cap. So when you reset the brain, you know, you got to reset the brain every day. So in sports sports starts in the head when I when I became I was a I was one of those 98 pound weaklings when I was a freshman, but I made a goal to be captain the football team. I was captain of every team. And I was I got scholarship because I not only did the work, but I was mentally prepared for that. I wasn't surprised. A lot of people have imposter syndrome because they don't they don't get their brain in their body to connect. They they they have all the physical talents and in sports. It's usually not the most talented person that wins. You know, so it and there's going to be just like in your wrestling there or jujitsu. You're going to when there's a somebody has an offensive. You're going to have a defensive right counter. So the more you have that hard wired into your neurology, the faster it's going to be. There's not going to be thinking because you've already rehearsed the more you rehearse and I have a saying you get what you're rehearsing life, not what you intend. So you can rehearse physically, but in physical space and time, you don't have enough time to do it. Like when we work with kickers, for instance, a kicker can only kick so many balls because they'll fatigue their leg and I actually get better. They'll get worse if they practice more. So we have to teach them to do it mentally. Now, the your physiology does not know the difference between real or imagine. That's why you see a lot of these great athletes. They got their eyes closed and they're going through all their moves in their head. They're actually running that neurology. They're not fatiguing the muscles, but they're running the neurology. So now when they get into this, they get into those situations. It's not a surprise to them. They know exactly what to do. They know how to do it. And that's every sport. Like golf, for instance, one of the first things is that they teach in mental, the mental game of golf is that everyone's going to have a bad shot. No one has, I'm not seeing one perfect round. There's something's going to go, but how do they recover after that? So that means what they taught them to do is before they leave that, that addressing that ball, they see that ball going perfectly three times. And what the brain does, it will throw out the physical one with the negatives in an only room. Remember the positive. So the next time you, you know, you address that ball, now your mindset's right. You're focused on the positive. Your neurology set basically follow through and you can't help but win. You know, at least be the best you can be at that moment. You know, so that's part of the mental game of golf. Now when you think about your life, the same things true because everyone's playing the game of life. I mean, could you imagine going to your favorite movie and the actors and actresses never rehearsed? People do this every day to get up every day and they do the same thing and then they complained everybody. What I tell people is that think of your whatever your whatever causes you the most problems in your life. You should not be talking about them. Could you imagine a Superman carried around kryptonite until everybody. This is my kryptonite. Well, when you're giving everybody your triggers, then when you wonder why they use those triggers against you, you want to put your kryptonite into a lead box and put it in your backyard. Don't tell anybody about those things. You want to be talking about the positive. So you run those neural networks, your those patterns. So it's all about keeping your whatever the positive change you want to make in your life, keeping it at the top of your mind. I always tell people one way to one way this kind of works is when you get a new car, you know, you think you bought the only car like that and you drive it off the lot and you're driving home, you realize there's three or four cars like that or maybe more. But you didn't see them before because they weren't the top of your mind. But when you practice using brain tap or visualization techniques and relaxation techniques that keeps on the top of your mind. So now you're focused on the positive, not on any negatives. When the negatives come up, hopefully you can handle them, but you're focused more on the positives and then it seems like those negatives aren't too bad. Such a great conversation and also relevant, I think to people, although it's not a sport, when I'm working with people trying to change their behavior, a lot of what people don't realize is like listen, you're going to keep defaulting if you don't, if you're too stressed, if you're not sleeping well, you're what you're trying to do when you're learning something is you're trying to create new patterns. And in this case, right, you have it's with health and fitness and if you you can get the reps in, but if stress gets in the way or poor sleep gets in the way, it's like you wake up and you have to re-learn it. It's not solidified. And that's what I hear you kind of saying with with brain tap in sports, right? It's like you go, you go in and you know, you're training, but it just feels like you're not getting ahead and it may not be, it could be the way you're practicing or it could be the way your physiology is from too much stress or poor recovery from stress, not enough sleep. So do you use the brain tap like after I think you said something about training, doing a sport and using the brain tap after to solidify the learning, is that how it works? Yeah, even at the mind muscle junction, I wrote an article for a muscle magazine a few years ago, then talks about a cita coding. If you have more L activity, you're going to build more muscle. If you have more You're very morbid, you burn, you make less muscle. So being in the right mental state while you're doing these activities actually has a difference, the body responds differently during those. So it's really important that we stay in that when you do that afterwards, when your body's raging because you just did this workout and you can calm it down, teach the brain to calm it down, then it recruits all those healing properties that are part of the body. And it's really about how quickly we can heal to get the gains that we want to have, especially in sports. And it's true in life too. I think so many people don't get that. They put in the work, but they don't do their recovery. Is that common with the people you work with as well? Oh yeah, well, Tom Brady says for every one minute of exertion, you need two minutes of relaxation, recovery. When you look at him, he doesn't look like a world-class athlete, but he is because he spends his time, traditionally, he basically focuses on the recovery phase and the mental game, which is so important. They say you cannot think Tom Brady because he's already thought of every conceivable thing. That's why such a good announcer now by doing the football games because he's already been through it all. He knows what they're thinking, knows what they're doing. And that was part of his mental game. Now we didn't have anything to do with that. He had mental coaches, but he used it to recover. If you went on his jet, you use a brain tap. He has two of them on his jet. So I mean, people will use it because of recovery. Because when you get on an airplane, most people don't realize every hour in the air is like getting an x-ray. So your body is getting compromised. That's why you lose energy. But when you land or during the flight, if you recharge the nervous system, it doesn't hurt you as much. So important. Well, Patrick, I feel like we could easily go another hour here, but I want to be respectful of your time and mind. And for people listening right now, definitely check out Dr. Patrick Porter's Brain Fitness podcast. That's available wherever you listen to podcasts, including this one, right? And then also check out his braintap.com website if you're interested in learning more about experiencing brain tap for yourself. You can read the research. They have everything listed there, the science, all sorts of things. You can ask questions for support. I'm really fast. I'm not in the US at the moment. So getting things here in Brazil, or I will bother everyone who's listening right now with that. But I really want to give this a try to see. I would any type of edge you can get, especially in the fast-paced life that we're living at the moment where AI and right, we need to be able to learn as much as we can, recover as fast and as efficiently as we can. And yeah, this could be something that could really help. So Patrick, thanks so much for sharing your time, your wisdom, and your knowledge today. Any last words for the listeners before we wrap things up? There's no that you're far greater than you've been able to believe. We just need to activate those circuits and get you going. There's a lot more possible for you listening. Love that message. Thanks again. And if you're listening, make sure you check out Patrick's website, his podcast, and looking forward to doing this again. Thanks so much. Thanks for listening. Thank you.