How to Surround Yourself with Great People (Part 2)
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The transcription discusses the essence of leadership and personal growth, emphasizing that true leadership extends beyond mere efficiency to include empathy, tough decisions, and human connection. It then transitions into a podcast lesson from John Maxwell on how to surround oneself with great people, building on a previous discussion. The core advice includes making oneself unforgettable through intentional service, living out a great vision through action rather than just words, and developing a generous, others-focused character. The vision should mature from a self-centered idea to an inclusive mission, propelled by a practical "vehicle" for execution. The hosts illustrate these principles with examples from Maxwell Leadership, such as creating surprise-and-delight experiences for their community, demonstrating how a lived vision and unforgettable service attract and retain talented people. The segment concludes by highlighting the importance of keeping a vision alive and energetic to inspire others.
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That's M-A-X-W-E-L-L to 55123. Don't miss this chance to boost your leadership potential. Hey, welcome back to the Maxwell Leadership Podcast. You have joined in today. If it's your first time, you're in part two of an incredible lesson that John is teaching. Tracy, I know how you feel about your family, specifically your husband, Casey. Since our last lesson of surrounding yourself with great people here in the U.S. We've experienced Valentine's Day and you surrounded yourself with a great husband. I guarantee you. I really did surround myself with him. And we are excited, not only that, but we have a little Valentine's granddaughter that has been born to us, our new granddaughter. We are popping them out. So what better thing to have come in Valentine's Day than a new little family member? So we have so many of our podcast family that's outside the United States. We find a date of celebrate everything. I don't know if it's like that in your country, but it's like that in our country. And so on behalf of our podcast staff and friends and family, podcast listeners, viewers, we love you. It's Valentine's Day. We love you. We love you. Seriously, today we're picking back part two of John's lesson on how to surround yourself with great people. In part one, John talked about have a desire to become great. It's got to start within you. It's going to end today. It's going to end today with you. Number two, go where great people are. Three, do what great people do. That's just kind of the recap where we were. What we're going to do today is I want to get you in the mindset of continuing this march to surrounding yourself with great people. Andrew Carnegie said it like this, I, oh, whatever success I have attained to my ability to surround myself with people who are smarter than I am. I think Andrew Carnegie had it right. I've heard John Maxwell say that often. Hey, we're going to talk about covering and surrounding yourself, protecting yourself, guarding yourself with great people, great leaders. And we're going to help you do that with three more points. Hey, I am so excited because you can view this podcast. If you've never done that, we're on YouTube and you can go to our show notes. You'll be able to click on the link there and go straight to viewing this podcast. Also, if you would like to download the bonus resource button that we've been using, go and download that. You can get all of that at maxwapodcast.com/greatpeople. Here is John Maxwell. The fourth thing, if you really want to surround yourself with great people, and that is be unforgettable. Jack Welch in our conversations before he passed away, he had an expression that you know, get out of the people pile. In other words, in every company over in our sales, there's just a pile of people. How do you distinguish yourself? How do you set yourself apart? How does that happen? How do you become unforgettable? I can tell you that all of my life, I've really worked hard in trying myself to be an unforgettable person. There are certain things that just kind of help me do that. For example, let me just give you one practical one. That is, do for others what they cannot do for themselves. In other words, just very simply ask yourself, what can I do for that person? That they really probably don't do for themselves. And spend a lot of time in prepping. You spend a lot of time prepping maybe for that 35 seconds, but at that moment you slip it into them and perhaps it catches their attention. And I just think that that is absolutely a way for you to begin to surround yourself with great people. Always be in a servant's posture, but ask yourself, what can I do for them that they can't do for themselves? Unforgettable. It will be absolutely life-changing for you. Number five, live out your great vision. Now, a vision itself can be inspiring. You know, you cast a vision to be what's something you want to accomplish. And if it's a great vision, there are people that just get attracted to it. But what I'm saying and surrounding yourself with great people, your talk won't get you that audience. It's your walk that'll get you that audience. You got to live this out. I didn't just say a great vision. I said, live it out. In other words, become what I call a show and tell person. Remember when we were in elementary school, we'd do show and tell. And once a month we'd bring something to the classroom and we'd show it to the other class members. And we'd tell a story about it show and tell how much fun was that? Well, envision casting, telling is not enough. You have to also show it. Again, back to my mentor, John Woodney. Look at his basketball players and he would say, "Don't tell me what you're going to do. Show me what you're going to do." So I thought about our time day and this best advice lesson. And I thought, I want to maybe be real practical here and talk to you about vision maturity. How do you and I mature a vision in such a way that it's more than tell, it's show and tell? And how does it progress to a place that it gets the attention of great people? Because again, talk is cheap. You can talk about your dream and what you're going to accomplish. To be honest with you doesn't mean much. But when you begin to live it out and people can say, "Oh my gosh, look at that. They are fulfilling their own dream." Now all of a sudden you're contagious. So let me just give you just a few steps of what I call vision maturity. First of all, it begins with you. In the beginning, the vision is about you. It really is. When I started off of my vision, it was about me and I had a dream. And I kind of looked for people to add value to me, come around me. And it's okay. This is where it starts. Once in a while the vision is about someone else. But most of the visions that we try to aspire to, they're about ourselves. And then now we're talking about how does this vision mature? So it starts with me. And so then I began to have goals, numerical goals. I would call them markers. Things that mark my progress in this vision journey, maturity that I'm taken. And by the way, remember, they're markers. They're not makers. A lot of people think goals are makers of the list. The goals don't make you. They just mark you. They're there to help you gauge your progress. Now with the vision mature, it goes from it. It's about me. And I've got some goals that I want to accomplish. And very quickly it begins to be about others. There's no matured in a vision that just has me to it. It has to have we to it. It has to be inclusive. It has to be about you and about me. And all of a sudden I'm asking you to come and make my vision a reality. And you're helping me and you're adding value to me. And then we kind of put some goals, markers out there. Then we begin to bring others around us. And then we begin to ask the real question. We've got this vision to make a difference. We begin to ask questions. And one of the key questions in vision maturity is what do others need in their lives? What do other people want in their life? Now, now once we start asking that question and we get intentional in finding out what people need and what people want. This vision has a chance of really maturing and blossoming. And then once you start to answer that question, the next part of your maturity is you put -- and I never heard anybody talk about this -- put your vision in a vehicle. In other words, how do I move my vision from where it is to where I really want it to go? And in my life, when I realized that I wanted to add value to leaders to multiply value to others,
others, I said, "Well, okay, what's my vehicle? How am I going to move that vision?" And that I started with conferences. I started to speak about leadership and do leadership conferences. And then I said, "Well, I'm going to write books about it." And so that can get out. And then I said, "I'm going to start developing organizations." And then I said, "Well, let's bring in people and make them the legs of the legacy." And when that vision maturas with, and you put it in a vehicle, it should begin to be a vision of attraction, but it should always be a vision of participation. And you never know the validity of your vision until you ask for commitment. So far on surrounding yourself, the greater people, be unforgettable, be unforgettable to great people, catch their time and attention. And wait for your moment, but be prepared when that moment comes. And then live out the great vision. Don't just talk about it, do it. And number six, and this one's absolutely huge. Be greater on the inside than you are on the outside. In other words, have bigness of spirit. Now, how do I describe bigness of spirit? It's all about thinking of others. It's all about attitude. It's all about generosity. The best way I can explain it is I've told you before, and I've used this as an illustration of John Wooden, my first mentoring experience with him in LA when I left his apartment. And I was walking out to my car in this kind of public parking spot for people that were visiting anyone in the complex that John Wooden lived. And I was about to the car. It was just about to rain open the door and I had this feeling turned around. I turned around. I looked up on the second floor where he lived. And there he was. He was standing on the balcony just watching me, watching me leave. We'd spent several hours together. And as soon as I turned to him, he smiled. That big beautiful John Wooden smile. And he gave me that wave. It was the wave. It was the John you're so important to me that I think I'll just wait until you get in the car before I go back in the house. Oh, by the way, thanks for coming. Let me wave to you. That's what I'm talking about. And so I'm talking about a spirit of generosity. Abundance more than scarcity. High road instead of low road. We talk about the golden rule. Treat others as you like to be treated. But there's a higher road that's even higher than the golden rule. It's the platinum rule that says treat others better. And you're treated. Go that second mile. At the end of the year of year, I do a review of every day of the year. And I ask one of the questions. I ask myself, who does spend my time with? And every year I say, wow, I need to spend more time with that person. Why? Because they have this bigness of spirit. There are other people I say, well, maybe I need to cut a little bit of my time with them. So this lesson was meant to just help you to help you have an inward spirit that is attractive to others that will help you to be unforgettable. This was a lesson that just helps you. If you'll do these six things that I gave you, great people want to be around you. You'll know I want to be around them, but to be honest with you, they'll begin to see you out. Many podcast listeners, many of you listening right now would probably love the autonomy that comes with owning your own business or becoming a coach that helps other businesses succeed. Well, we have a phenomenal strategy where you are 100% in control of your own business, earning income on your own terms, and have access to the people, tools, and resources you need to build a thriving leadership development business. When you become a Maxwell Leadership Certified team member, you join a global community of entrepreneurs led by our expert team of mentors and faculty, including John C. Maxwell. You'll also get one of the top leadership certifications in the world next to your name, giving you the boost you need to get started. Visit us online at maxwellleadership.com/jointheteam to find out more. Hey, welcome back everybody. I told you just in listening to John, number one, I'm watching what he's teaching today in real life visually because that's what he's done. And so Tracy, I want to jump right into the lesson today. John teaches three incredible points that here at Maxwell Leadership, we have turned his personal points into company culture. And so I can't wait to share it with you. I can't wait to share it with our podcast family because John's given us some great gold today. Yes, he sure does. Building off of the last one and I love how he kicks it off by being unforgettable. I think that's something that we can all get really creative about. I think we talked about it last week and I was talking about how when I went to exchange, how I wanted to be unforgettable. And I took that to heart, not to try to show off or be something that I wasn't, but how could I show up and serve people. And one of the ways that I've found to do that when I show up in different spaces is how can I pray for you as a person of faith? And you know, that's a way that you can serve somebody. It doesn't cost you anything. It's something that you can spend your time to not money, but time. And to truly pray for somebody and people appreciate that, I find that is something that isn't unforgettable because who's out there offering to pray for people. And so how, what is a way that Maxwell leadership stays committed to being unforgettable? Yeah, thanks for asking that. You know, it's funny. I'm so glad you even mentioned exchange. I remember that exchange that we were talking about. We talked a little bit about it last episode to where you were unforgettable. Somebody came up to us and they said, "Hey, you need to meet this incredible lady." She has such a balance with her passion for family, her passion for relationships, and her commitment to success in business. And she's got a personality. I mean, she's done things. And so I mean, you were unforgettable for me that first exchange. That exchange was unforgettable to me because that exchange we did racing in sailboats. I've never sailed before. Trust me, my team that I was own realized I had never sailed before because we lost. But that day, that week, that year of exchange, we brought people together and we did something that most people had never done before, including some of our staff. And I still remember it to the state. It was unforgettable. That same event exchange, you've been to many others. We sat in Winston Churchill's seat behind the glass at the bunkers. We went out and met with his grandson who was also serving in Parliament. And then we went on a train ride out to one of the castles and tru--bucking him, palace. We took it in, but we created it not as a tourist, as an experienced specialist. And so truly, we have taken that concept that John's taught right here and we work hard to be unforgettable just three weeks ago. We have an event called the Maxwell Masterclass. John is selected 78 people. He's 78 this year. He's selected 78 people and he's introducing them to people that he knows that he wants the people in our Masterclass to know. 78 people. Well, we're coming down. It's going to be incredible. But we put the surprise in that they were already going, but we brought Jack Nicholas into the golf environment and they spent an evening with Jack. That wasn't in the package. That wasn't in the promise. That was a surprise. Then we took them and we let them go into an environment where Tiger Woods was competing with other people in the indoor golf league that's going on. Not in the package. And people Tracy were blown away at what they got to do. Why? Because you want to look for something unexpected to grab someone's attention at how you value them and how you want to add value to them. And when you can grab somebody's attention with a surprise, but with a surprise and delight with a commitment to serve them, I have watched in every one of our experiences, every one of them. We ask ourselves the question, what's going to be unforgettable about this moment? What's going to be that moment that everybody is still talking about? One of our podcasts or one of our exchange, Tracy. Can't remember if you went to this one, but one of our exchanges, we blew them from Atlanta on a private plane on a delta plane that we chartered. We flew them from Atlanta to Nashville to have dinner with Dave Ramsey. It was just kind of a surprise and delight. Nobody had bought that. Nobody had paid for that. They just were paying for an exchange.
and we created an unforgettable experience. Everything that we do within Maxwell leadership, we work hard to be unforgettable in doing that. So challenge is a discipline of ours. - Yes, and as you're talking about exchanges, I'm thinking of two other examples where when we were in England where you, John did an interview of former Prime Minister Tony Blair, which was such a shock. And I mean, talk about people being able to to, wow, who could ever have that experience if it wasn't for that exchange? And oh my goodness, talk about unforgettable. Just incredible memories and experiences where you not only get to, when I went to those exchanges, I also wanna say that I think is important. It's not just being in that moment, but what I always like to do when I see the way that you and John run an event is not just to experience the event itself, but to also watch how you run an event, how you interact with your staff, how you, how your staff treats the people, how the whole thing rolls out, how the meetings happen before and after. I'm just observing and watching the whole thing because I'm thinking as a business owner, as a leader, how do I wanna treat my people, how do I want my people to treat other people? I kind of studied the event itself and how you guys run your team and how your team interacts with people. So it's a whole study of being unforgettable on every level. And so I just, I so appreciate not just John and what he does, but also how you interact with your team. And I like, it's really a study in leadership. So yeah, yeah. So living out, this is a vision lived out and people getting to interact with that and John talks about the maturing of a vision. So you got you, the two of you, you know, John has experienced all this and now it's, it's really compounding as the two of you are the crossover. But with John now that passing of the baton of now it becoming something that now you're expanding and bringing it to the next generation, with all the things that you have accomplished. And I would love for you to share a little bit of the things that are being accomplished out into the world because not always does everyone see that with the children in the schools and I lead and countries. How do you continue to do that to mature the vision that was cast so long ago and is continually being cast? - Yeah, I think it's one, make sure your vision is alive. You know, too many people are operating on yesterday's vision and the vision is dead and the organization is not. They don't think it is anyway and yet it really is. You got to make sure that your vision is alive and it brings people alive when they hear it. It gives energy, there's energy, there's movement, there's excitement around the vision. One thing that I can say about John is he is constantly excited about the vision that we're pursuing. He is constantly repeating it. He's constantly sharing it. In other words, the vision is alive. You know, one of our nonprofits trained over six million leaders in every country of the world and let me tell you what a trained leader was. A trained leader was not just somebody that came to an event we gave them some training or gave them a book. It's leaders that committed every six months to come to a two and a half day event to learn leadership but that was an all. They had to then go share that curriculum with 25 or more people to continue to scale that across the country. And as we crossed over six million leaders in every nation recognized by the United Nation, we realized that it was the vision early on because the vision beginning at that trace he was, can we train one million leaders in all seven continents? And it transformed as we went, we could see more, we could see greater potential where we literally trained leaders in every country of the world, not just a million in seven continents. We have a coaching company. Many of you listening into the podcast, you're part of our coaching company. So proud of you, our certified coaches around the globe. We have 59,169 countries around the globe that are coaches. We started that with a vision of wanting to impact people that would go impact their communities. That was kind of the vision. We felt like we could get to 3,000. What if we got to 3,000 in the United States? How great would that be? And then people started coming from all over the world. And now we're at 59,000 and counting. We have a vision of training the next generation with values-based leadership. We feel like there's a values deficit in the world today. And so we started just three years ago, or four years ago. We started, we developed a curriculum called ILEED that is really designed around a student-led environment to where they can hold each other accountable. They can build and make commitments around doing things of value that would value people. And now we have over 3 million kids in public schools that is a part of this curriculum. That's going through it. Right now, today, they're going through this curriculum. We're seeing a decline in disciplinary actions. We're seeing an increase in attendance. All because we had a vision to go make a difference with the next generation. If I could say anything to all of you that are listening today, is your vision excitable to you? Because if it's not, guess what? It's not excitable to anybody else, either. Is the vision alive and are you communicating it in a way that it invites and engages others to be a part of the journey with you? So I have a little question about that just as a side note. When you talk about a vision, being, when John talks about vision, being we and not me, I think sometimes about leaders who have a vision that's maybe not catching. And so how does a leader find whether or not, they just aren't expressing it well enough to their team or if it's really more about them because sometimes a leader can be too close to their vision that they can't tell. So how do they distinguish whether or not, if you were advising them, how do they distinguish whether or not it's about me and not we actually, when they're so excited that they are maybe too close to not know? - Well, one question to ask is, who's the benefactor of my dream? Who's the benefactor of my vision? And if the greatest benefactor is you, then it's your vision, it's not a people's vision. If you're gonna be the greatest benefactor of your accomplished vision, then it's gonna be hard to inspire people to reach that. So the first question is, is who's the benefactor? The second question is, is it believable? So the benefactor question, who's the benefactor? The believable question, is it believable? And that question really is, when you're casting it, not how you're communicating it, but when you're casting that vision to people close to you, do they believe it or do they question it? And by the way, I've had a lot of vision, especially with John Maxwell's, that's not believable, that people didn't. But he only engaged and entrusted people that would believe it, that would come into it. I'm reminded of Rudy Giuliani, when he went into New York many, many years ago, and he dropped crime rate, the lowest that it ever been in New York. He surrounded himself with people that believed they could do it. And too many times we have a great dream, but we don't have the third bee, we don't have buy-in. So it's believable, but does it have buy-in? And if you don't have buy-in with the vision, you're only gonna accomplish the vision that only you can accomplish, not what we can accomplish. And if you'll take time and really build out the bees of vision, and then surround yourself with people, 'cause we're talking about surrounding yourself with great people that'll go after that vision with you. That's how you're gonna see great success. - Yeah, I'm also wondering too, if it can be a wee vision, but I'm thinking about when John wrote his book, and he had the vision for transformation. I'm looking at my bookshelf, I've got all John's books here, and I'm trying to remember the book that he wrote, the name of it, it's escaping me, you'll know it, when he had the vision for transformation, and he wrote his first book on transformation, and people just didn't catch it like he thought they would. And he remembered that, and then he realized that he was probably casting it too big, and he needed to bring it smaller. And I like how you talk about the coaching, it's now 59,000, and what did you say 169 countries? I like how you talked about starting small, because it really, you said, maybe we can get 3,000, like you started with a small number. So maybe is it that leaders sometimes just cast too big, and it was intentional living, that's what it was. And he thought that intentional living was gonna catch on, and that was gonna be his transformation book. And then he realized that it was just too big, he needed, what was it? Can you talk about what John learned from trying to lead with transformation with intentional living, and then he eventually needed to rework that,
and mature the vision a little bit. What was that process with you guys? - We feel like two books really has captured John's heart for transformation for making an impact. And one is the book, I'm getting ready to comment on that you talked about intentional living. The second one is "The Change of World." And what John discovered in intentional living is an incredible book. In fact, it's one of my highly recommended books for people that really wanna get a life on purpose, a life filled with vision. It's intentional living. But what we discovered is in trying to create a scalable movement, people can't scale if they're only focused on themselves. And that's what intentional living was. It is the best book of insight into John Maxwell. But "Change your world" went from me to we. "Change the world around you." There's a world that needs you. And so we feel like we hit the mark well when we changed it from intentional living on an internal standpoint, which is necessary. It's one of the best books and "Change the Change of World" because that book is the one that really has created this movement that we're seeing now. - Yes, so that's maybe the great me to we want to punch is intentional living and then change your world that those books, if you haven't had a chance listeners to read those books and really take it inside yourself, if you're looking at living out your great vision, you may wanna read those because that is the expression that Mark's talking about as the number one guy who has spent the most time with John. And as they've been trying to express and get that out of John, those are, that's a great expression of maturing about vision. - I love that Tracy too. In fact, I love it so much that I'm gonna tell you what we're gonna do. We've got a digital product on "Change your world" and we're just gonna put that in the show notes and we'll give you that. We'll give it to you for a third off. And so you'll see the, I know I love it. You'll see that. And so thank you for saying that Tracy as a next step. Hey guys, I'm gonna tell you this right here. So I just think about closing down today's podcast. And as I realize the significance of what we've been talking about for two weeks, I wanna tell you that the importance that we tell our kids, you are who you hang around. You are who you're spending time with. Remember that parents? We told our kids, told our kids, well I'm telling you this is leadership. You are who you hang around. That's why for two weeks we've been saying how you surround yourself and who you surround yourself with and what you do with the people you're surrounded with is an incredible ingredient to the success of your leadership. And if I can tell you anything, I can tell you this. You need to do this so that you will lead better. You'll be more positive. You'll bring powerful change because everyone deserves to be led well. (soft music) Do you feel like you're meant for more, but you're not sure what next step to take? Whether you're leading a team, building your business, or just trying to lead yourself well, you don't need more noise. You need wisdom, real proven practical wisdom. That's why we created the Maxwell Leadership app. Inside you'll get daily bite size videos from John C. Maxwell and other world class thinkers designed to help you grow every day. You'll unlock curated playlists on personal growth, leadership, mindset, communication, confidence, and much more. All for just $9.99 a month. And here's the best part. It's growth on your terms at your pace in your pocket. Ready to go further and grow faster? Download the Maxwell Leadership app today. Go to MaxwellPodcast.com/app or click the link in the show notes. Try it free for seven days with the code podcast7. That's podcast the number seven.
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Key Points:
Leadership requires tough decisions, empathy, and human connection, not just efficiency, even in the age of AI.
To surround yourself with great people, be unforgettable by serving others in ways they cannot serve themselves.
A great vision must be lived out and matured through action, moving from a personal focus to including others and finding a "vehicle" to advance it.
Cultivate a "bigness of spirit"—generosity, high character, and thinking of others—to attract great people.
Maxwell Leadership exemplifies these principles by creating unforgettable, value-driven experiences for its community.
Summary:
The transcription discusses the essence of leadership and personal growth, emphasizing that true leadership extends beyond mere efficiency to include empathy, tough decisions, and human connection. It then transitions into a podcast lesson from John Maxwell on how to surround oneself with great people, building on a previous discussion. The core advice includes making oneself unforgettable through intentional service, living out a great vision through action rather than just words, and developing a generous, others-focused character.
The vision should mature from a self-centered idea to an inclusive mission, propelled by a practical "vehicle" for execution. The hosts illustrate these principles with examples from Maxwell Leadership, such as creating surprise-and-delight experiences for their community, demonstrating how a lived vision and unforgettable service attract and retain talented people. The segment concludes by highlighting the importance of keeping a vision alive and energetic to inspire others.
FAQs
Strong leadership involves making tough decisions, listening well, showing empathy, and maintaining a human touch, not just focusing on performance.
Leaders can partner with services like Valle, which provides U.S.-based executive assistants who are AI-fluent while preserving human interaction, handling administrative tasks so leaders can focus on leading.
Surrounding yourself with great people, as highlighted by Andrew Carnegie and John Maxwell, is crucial for success because it attracts smarter individuals and enhances your own growth and effectiveness.
Be unforgettable by doing for others what they cannot do for themselves, maintaining a servant's posture, and preparing to seize moments to catch their attention and add value.
Living out your vision, through actions and tangible progress, makes it contagious and attracts great people, as talk alone is cheap and lacks the impact of demonstrated commitment.
Bigness of spirit involves thinking of others, maintaining a positive attitude, and practicing generosity, such as going the extra mile to treat others better than you expect to be treated.
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