How to Inspire People to Get Back to You (And Why You Shouldn't Need To)
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"The Art of Sales" podcast hosted by Art Subchek offers practical sales and prospecting techniques. Strategies to avoid being ghosted involve understanding customer needs and achieving mutual agreement on next steps. Follow-up methods for unresponsive clients include assuming no interest, applying deadline pressure, and using scarcity tactics. Mistakes to avoid include sounding desperate, talking excessively, sending generic messages, and not providing a clear next step. The key message emphasizes the importance of providing value in initial conversations to minimize the need for follow-ups. The podcast encourages confidence and professionalism in sales interactions, focusing on continuous improvement and effective communication to enhance sales success.
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- You are listening to the art of sales.
Everyone sells every day.
And this is your source for conversational,
real-world sales and prospecting methods
that you are comfortable using and that get results.
You'll help people buy instead of pushing them
into being sold.
Here's your host, Art Subcheck.
- There is so much talk today about getting ghosted.
And what are you gonna do about it?
- Well, I've got some tough love truth about it.
Also, what to do to minimize
and even prevent it from happening.
And then I've got some real-world conversational,
non-salesy, high status ways to get responses
when you're having trouble getting back in touch
with someone.
All right, so let's get started.
It's one of the biggest challenges that sales pros face
is getting messages returned.
The fact is, unless someone has a compelling reason
to respond to you, your request is just gonna sit there
with all the others.
It never moves.
Hey, look at your own pile of things
that need your attention, including those that involve
responding to someone.
I would bet that you've got some that have been sitting there
for quite a while.
So what makes you respond to something right away
or put it off or just ignore it completely?
Well, let me start with some blunt truth here.
If you're constantly sending follow-up messages
hoping for responses, something likely went wrong
in your initial conversation.
Yeah, it's your own fault.
Most salespeople are complaining about the symptoms
and not even realizing there's a disease.
Of course, there are things that are urgent
that get immediate attention,
but the rest, they get prioritized or completely ignored.
Some create what I call impulse curiosity.
We're interested enough right at that moment
to do something about it.
Now, of course, this is what you should be doing.
And I cover this extensively
in my smart calling college training program.
And if you want more information on that,
you can simply go to smartcallingcollege.com.
But right now I'm gonna give you the nutshell version
of the framework of how to prevent non-response
in the first place.
That's the better alternative, right?
Now, by the way, all of this assumes
that you're not just calling or emailing someone
with some lame request like,
"Hey, here I am, please call me back
"so we can have a meeting."
That always gets deleted or ignored, right?
So I've got the four non-negotiables
for getting a, or getting movements for a follow-up.
And as I always say, the success of your follow-up
is directly dependent on the strength
of what took place before.
So let's cover the things that need to happen
in your initial conversations and communication.
So first, they've gotta understand exactly
what's in it for them to take the next step.
This isn't about just sending generic information
or saying, "Hey, let's talk again."
So based on what they told you
about their specific challenge,
you're giving them something
that is directly going to help their situation.
So instead of sending you some information,
you can do something like,
"Hey, Mike, based on what you told me
"about your challenge with reducing costs
"in your supply chain,
"I'm going to be sending you three very specific case studies
"of companies in your industry
"who solved this exact problem
"and they all saved an average of 30%.
"So next time, we'll talk about how this applies
"to your situation on our call Friday morning."
Also, number two, we need to get mutual agreement
on those next steps.
So this means specific actions, specific timelines,
specific outcomes, not vague promises,
but clear commitments.
So for example,
so Kate, I'm gonna send you those three case studies
by Thursday morning
and we'll talk about them Friday at two o'clock.
And so you'll have had time to review them
with your team like you mentioned,
and then we can discuss which approach
makes the most sense for your company.
That works for you, right?
Number three,
make sure there are some stakes and consequences.
They need to understand what happens if they don't act.
Now, these are not threats,
but it's the natural business consequences
that come from doing nothing, for example.
So you mentioned wanting to get this resolved
before fourth quarter when your busy season kicks in.
Now, if we don't move forward by the end of this month,
that timeline's gonna be shot.
You'll be dealing with this problem
during your busiest time of the year, right?
And then finally, commitment and confirmation.
Get them to confirm what they agreed to
and repeat it back.
Now, this isn't being pushy.
It's being professional, for example.
All right, so just to confirm,
you're gonna review the proposal with your team
by Wednesday and we'll reconnect Thursday at 3 p.m.
to discuss any questions and next steps, right?
So when you do this,
I mean, not responding becomes virtually impossible
because they'd be breaking their word,
not just ignoring a salesperson.
And if you just do these simple things,
you're going to greatly minimize the chances
of getting ghosted and that's your best approach.
Okay, now with all that said, I'm a realist also,
even the best conversations sometimes go silent.
There are a number of different scenarios here, right?
Of course, you've got the flakes.
There's some change priorities.
There might be internal politics.
There could be genuine emergencies.
Sometimes you're dealing with someone else's mess
or thought you had a great conversation,
but clearly something got lost in communication.
And of course, like with anything, context is everything.
So what happened up to this point?
Did they contact you first to ask about your services
or did you reach out to them?
How many conversations did you have?
What were the results?
How did you end the previous conversation
and what were the specific next steps if there were steps?
So keeping all this in mind,
here are some ways to at least have a shot
at getting someone to take action.
So the first one I call assuming no interest.
And I use this one all the time.
You're letting someone know
that after repeated attempts to reach them,
you're going to have to just assume
that this isn't a priority for them right now.
Now, know that this should be used
after you've had a quality conversation
where they did show interest
and they said that they were indeed
going to take some action,
but then they went silent.
And yeah, the flakes fall into this category
as I like to call them.
They are out there.
So in your messaging,
whether it be a voice, family or email,
you might say, you might come a bit confused here
since I haven't heard back after several attempts
and after a previous call where you were interested
in saving money on your shipping costs.
Hey, if I don't hear back,
I'm going to just assume
that that line item is not a priority for you right now.
Hope I'm wrong.
And if so, just call me back at, give your number,
or reply to the email I'm gonna be sending you right now.
Next, we have deadline pressure.
Hey, a lot of people, myself included,
put things off until the last minute.
I mean, we fully intend to take action.
It's just that, hey,
we'll take all the time we've got to do so.
And if there's no deadline,
well, things can keep moving down the priority list.
So with these people,
reminding them of the deadline can get some action.
For example, Pat, quick reminder
that the special pricing in the proposal
is good until the end of the week.
And after that time, it does go back up.
So I know you said you wanted to take advantage
of that savings, so please call me at.
Next, we have scarcity and FOMO.
So if you've got something that's limited,
appeal to their fear of missing out.
Hey, we talked about you taking advantage
of the special release of the reserve collection
since you felt it would appeal to your audience.
Now we are down to the last 10% of the supply.
I'd really hate to see you miss out.
So give me a call at,
so that we can get this locked in for you.
Next, we have negative consequences.
If there are any negative consequences from them
not acting, point those out.
It could be a delay in something they want,
missing a deadline, or just their problem continuing.
So Jim, you mentioned that you wanted to get the training done
in the first quarter,
and we're already pushing that
because of the planning and development time
that's going to be involved.
We can still do it, but I do need to hear from you this week
in order to make that timeline work.
Next, we have the final attempt strategy.
This was more powerful than assuming no interest
because it creates urgency without sounding desperate.
So, Pat, this is my final outreach on this.
After this, I'm assuming you've got it handled,
and I'll be focusing my attention on companies
that are ready to move forward.
And if I'm wrong about that,
just hit reply or give me a call at.
Next one, we really have to be careful with
and use it in very specific situations
only where it's appropriate,
and it's called moving forward anyway.
And again, it should only be used carefully
and only when it's totally appropriate and ethical.
And what it involves is you're telling them
that if you don't hear from them,
that means they're okay with you moving forward.
So, for example, let's say that they have
an automatic renewal coming up
on a subscription or a previous purchase.
So you could leave a message like,
Dave, I'd still like to speak with you about the plan
you're on that does renew next week.
And there are a couple options that we introduced this year
that could help your team
and would be great if we discuss them
before that renewal kicks in.
So please call me at or email me
with several time options that work for you.
And if I don't hear from you,
your existing plan is going to renew as scheduled.
Again, make sure you're being completely ethical
and legal with this approach.
I shouldn't even have to say that, but I do.
Don't use it to ever manipulate or pressure anyone
into something that they haven't genuinely
already agreed to.
The next one is called the consultant flip.
This positions you as a resource
just as a vendor trying to make a sale, for example.
Hey, Pat, I've been thinking about your situation
since we last talked and I've got some ideas
that might help even if we don't end up working together.
So it could be worth a quick chat to share those thoughts.
Hey, sometimes an outside perspective can be valuable.
My number is next is called social proof pressure.
Hey, people hate feeling like they're missing out
on what others in their industry are doing, for example.
Matt, I was just talking to a few other manufacturing leaders
this week about this exact challenge.
And two of them said they wish they acted on this
six months ago instead of waiting.
And I hate to see you in the same spot
because you're kind of similar to them.
So it could be worth a quick conversation.
And then finally, we've got video messaging.
Hey, a personal video message can cut through the noise
when text or just voice alone isn't working.
Keep it short, casual, and focused on them.
Remember to smile.
Hey, Sarah, I was thinking about our conversation
about whatever the specific topic was.
And I've got a few thoughts that might help you too
and then fill in with the benefit, of course.
Hey, keep it short under 30 seconds and make it personal.
All right, now with all of this said,
I've got some mistakes that really kill response rates.
So keep these things in mind.
Sounding desperate is one of them.
There's a huge difference between being persistent
and being needy, confident professionals follow up
because they've got value to offer,
not because they're worried about making their quota.
Next, and this applies to almost everything,
talking too much, too many words.
People scan emails, they don't read novels,
so get to the point.
Third, generic messages that can be sent
to anyone get deleted.
If you can't tell from your message
that it was specifically written for that person,
you better rewrite it.
And fourth, no clear next step.
Always make it easy for them to respond
by telling them exactly what you want them to do.
All right, so here's the bottom line.
People do respond a lot.
And if it's going to be to you,
you need to give them a good reason.
Every time you find yourself sending a follow up message,
hoping for a response, ask yourself,
what could I have done in a previous conversation
to make this follow up unnecessary?
And that's where the real learning
and professional development takes place.
Now, if you want to learn to how to have
those prevention conversations,
the better first conversations
that I talked about here at the beginning,
again, that's exactly what I cover
in the Smart Calling College.
Actually, I cover every part
of the professional sales and prospecting call there.
We have thousands of graduates
that have been through this program,
and you can join them and check that out
at smartcallingcollege.com, smartcallingcollege.com.
All right, hey, you know what time it is.
♪ You're at a tomb of B.I.N. ♪
♪ Every way you'll never feel ♪
♪ What they say is the art of the sales ♪
♪ Of the squad of the day ♪
That's right, it's time for the quote of the day,
and today's quote comes from me.
And what I always like to say is,
the best follow up is the one that you never have to make.
All right, so, in conclusion here,
just remember, confidence beats desperation every time.
If someone's not responding,
it says nothing about your worth
as a professional, stay confident.
Stay professional and keep moving forward.
Now go out there and make it happen.
Thank you so much for investing
your valuable sales time with me today.
Until next time, go out and make it your best sales day ever.
I'm Art Subchek.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast "The Art of Sales" provides real-world sales and prospecting methods.
Strategies to prevent being ghosted in sales include understanding the customer's needs and getting mutual agreement on next steps.
Ways to follow up with unresponsive clients include assuming no interest, creating deadline pressure, and using scarcity tactics.
Mistakes that reduce response rates include sounding desperate, talking too much, sending generic messages, and lacking a clear next step.
Summary:
"The Art of Sales" podcast hosted by Art Subchek offers practical sales and prospecting techniques. Strategies to avoid being ghosted involve understanding customer needs and achieving mutual agreement on next steps. Follow-up methods for unresponsive clients include assuming no interest, applying deadline pressure, and using scarcity tactics.
Mistakes to avoid include sounding desperate, talking excessively, sending generic messages, and not providing a clear next step. The key message emphasizes the importance of providing value in initial conversations to minimize the need for follow-ups. The podcast encourages confidence and professionalism in sales interactions, focusing on continuous improvement and effective communication to enhance sales success.
FAQs
Ensure your initial conversation provides clear value and mutual agreement on next steps, stakes and consequences, and confirmation of commitments.
Consider using approaches like assuming no interest, deadline pressure, scarcity and FOMO, negative consequences, final attempt, moving forward anyway (with caution), consultant flip, social proof pressure, and video messaging.
Focus on providing personalized value, agreeing on specific next steps, highlighting stakes and consequences, and confirming commitments.
Avoid sounding desperate, using excessive words, sending generic messages, and omitting clear next steps in your communication.
Ensure that every communication provides a compelling reason for the recipient to respond, minimizing the need for follow-up messages.
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