181: How to grow your nervous system capacity (so you don't need food as a buffer)
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The podcast explores the idea that food struggles aren't about willpower or diet, but about a small nervous system capacity—the body’s limited ability to hold and process sensations. When this capacity is overwhelmed, people turn to food, alcohol, or other habits as buffers to create a sense of safety. This is likened to a cup overflowing with water; when the cup is too small, water spills over, and food acts like a sponge to mop up the mess. However, this only traps emotions in the body, leading to future physical and emotional burdens. True healing involves growing nervous system capacity—not through constant calmness, but through learning to safely feel and process emotions. This is achieved through somatic practices that allow physical expression of feelings, creating safety in the body to release stored trauma. The key tools include somatics for emotional release, building ventral vagal safety for regulation, and learning to tolerate mess and uncertainty. While not everyone can eliminate all buffers, the goal is to reduce their need and intensity over time. The podcast emphasizes that healing isn’t about becoming thin, but about becoming more whole, emotionally resilient, and capable of living without relying on food or other coping mechanisms. Support from a coach or trained practitioner is vital, as the process is nuanced, emotionally intense, and requires personal guidance. Ultimately, growing nervous system capacity allows individuals to live fully in their emotions, without needing food or other substances to feel safe.
If you feel like you can't stop eating once you start or you have random urges to snack
throughout the day, eat when you're not hungry, you feel a lot of control around food.
It's not a food problem, food is not a dicting, it is a capacity problem.
Your nervous system can't hold all of the sensations existing inside your body and your
life.
And so food is acting like the life preserver, like the buffer to rescue you.
And the answer is you need to learn how to grow your nervous system capacity.
So in this episode I'm gonna break down what that is, how to actually tell if you have
a small capacity and exactly how you can grow your capacity so you don't need to use food
as a buffer.
Ashlyn, I'm the owner and creator and CEO of Heartlead Wellness and Heartlead Eating.
And this is a podcast where I dive into how to become naturally thin and heal your relationship
with food on a nervous system level.
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I was trying to figure out what I wanted to talk about today on this podcast and I was
thinking about the things that I talk about every single day on Instagram and one of them
is nervous system capacity.
I'm always talking about how the reason why you struggle with food is because you have
a small nervous system capacity.
And then I realized that I haven't actually made an entire episode dedicated to how to
actually grow your nervous system capacity.
So that is why we are sitting here.
I'm looking out of my apartment window at the sun setting over the river.
It is so gorgeous.
And I'm just feeling really grateful to be here recording this episode with you.
So if you've been a long time listener, thank you for being here.
If you're new and you just found this podcast, I'm also grateful that you're here as well.
Let's start with talking about what nervous system capacity actually is and simplify this.
So you can understand it.
Think about capacity like your ability to hold sensation, like feelings, but not just
like the emotional language of I feel stressed.
I feel sad, but like the actual sensation of it inside your body.
And the best way that I can always explain this to my clients is by thinking about a cup.
Your nervous system is the cup.
And the feelings, the sensation is water that drops into the cup, little water droplets
that fall inside of that cup.
And so when the cup is really small or when it's already really full of water, water
starts to spill over the edges.
And when we say growing our capacity, we're talking about getting a bigger cup.
We're talking about having a bucket instead of a shot glass or a giant mixing bowl instead
of a tea cup.
And when we have a bigger container for the water, we can actually hold more sensation.
We can hold more of life without it spilling over.
And when the water spills over, that is when we end up using things like food, which I'm
going to talk about in a minute, to try and mop up the mess or try and regain some sense
of safety.
So whenever I say you need to grow your nervous system capacity, I'm referring to getting
a bigger container, a bigger cup, so you can be with more sensation.
It's not actually about being calm all the time, feeling zen, being in this meditative
state all the time, absolutely not.
I would say I feel way more emotional and chaotic than I ever felt before in my nervous system
capacity is bigger than it's ever been before.
I just feel safe to be with the feelings inside of me instead of trying to avoid them
or run from them.
So here are some signs that your nervous system capacity is small and has room for improvement.
And I had almost everything I wanted these before.
So if you resonate with these, you're not alone.
Controlling tendencies.
If you feel the need to have things be perfect, be a certain way in order to feel okay.
You really like things to be super structured and organized and scheduled.
If you feel numb or checked out, especially from your body, maybe you feel like you can't
really access your feelings, you feel kind of disconnected, disassociated, feeling just
disconnected from your body in general, living in your head, being an overthinker, really
loving to journal and talk about your feelings and not really feeling them through your body,
but just thinking them through.
OCD like patterns is a really common one, putting everything in perfect order in order to
feel safe, having a lot of rituals and routines that you need to do in order to feel safe.
And I know sometimes when we say the word OCD, that can feel really medical and big, but
almost all of my clients have some form of OCD.
This is not diagnosed, but when I'm talking to them, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's totally
an OCD thing because we are doing that to try and create a sense of control and safety.
All are nothing thinking, really living in extremes, black and white, easily spiraling
over small things, having a hard time sitting still or resting, liking to fill your schedule
super full all the time, working all the time, not needing or not being able to take breaks
and rest, needing to stay busy so you don't feel your feelings, even just needing to constantly
be stimulated.
So having your phone always on, music always on, listening to podcasts and music all the
time, eating all the time, chewing gum all the time, working all the time, just needing
constant stimulation, fidgeting all the time, not being able to tolerate uncertainty or
mess, really not liking moments where you don't know what's going to happen, but I know.
But this is one reason why I used to hate watching movies when I was younger is because
I had no idea what was going to happen and that uncertainty, the big build up, the whole
movie of what's going to happen would just stress me out so much, feeling raw or too much
or just completely depleted after a normal day, and then of course using food, scrolling,
work, alcohol, drugs, other habits to take the edge off in your day.
So if you resonate with any of these things, you're in the right place because you can absolutely
grow your capacity and these behaviors will naturally shift as you do that.
So let's take this over to the world of eating and food because when you have a small capacity
and you don't feel safe to be with sensation in your body, food becomes the way and eating
becomes the way that you actually attempt to create the safety and the regulation.
So imagine your cup is overflowing, the water is spilling out the edges.
That is the moment that you have an urge, an urge to binge, an urge to overeat and urge
to grab a snack, even though you're not hungry because subconsciously, you're not going
to be aware that this is happening in the moment.
I know anytime I used to overeat, I was never thinking, "Okay, I feel really anxious right
now and I don't feel safe to feel anxious so I'm going to eat something."
It was never like that.
It was always just, "Mmm, these look good or this tastes good.
I want to keep going."
Oh, I want to bite of that. I was never thinking about my feelings, which is actually the problem.
I was just focusing on the food and so I thought it was just a food thing.
But behind the scenes in my subconscious and my nervous system, which you don't actually
have conscious access to, my nervous system was saying, "Alert, alert, alert.
We don't know how to feel this feeling.
This feels too much.
We're outside of our window of tolerance.
Our capacity is full.
We've maxed out.
We need immediate relief.
We need something to rescue us."
And when we eat, when we chew, it actually engages the muscles of the face, the neck,
the head, the jaw that are connected to the vagus nerve, and it stimulates your vagus nerve.
This is crazy.
And so by doing that, it actually helps your nervous system feel safe.
It gives you a little relief, a little hit of safety.
And then if that's already not blowing your mind, once the food comes into your stomach
organ and it stretches on your stomach organ.
So this happens when you overeat and we crowd the stomach full.
It also stimulates the vagus nerve and it decreases our sensitivity to feelings.
So just notice this next time that you overeat, notice if you actually feel less emotional
after you overeat.
And the reason why this is happening is because you're so full, all you feel is the physical
fullness and the way that that physical fullness is shifting your nervous system, it actually
buffers you.
This is what I mean when I say food buffers you from your feelings.
It actually creates this fuzz over your feelings, over your nervous system and you don't have
to feel what's actually there for you.
But the feelings don't leave.
So those water molecules that were spilling over the edge of the cup that you've just
mopped up with food, they don't actually disappear.
They get trapped in your body as excess storage.
If we eat an excess, we will create excess on the body.
When capacity maxes out, overeating begins.
So we're using food to try and mop up the mess.
We're trapping the emotion onto the body and we're creating excess storage and we're
going to have to deal with it at some point in the future.
And what that point in the future is when you join HeartLead eating and you learn how
to release energy off your body and also tap pain off your body, you're going to have
to go through a retroactive feeling process of feeling the emotions that have been trapped
on your body.
And so hopefully you can see that when we are overeating, when we're eating outside
the boundaries of our body, this is happening because our nervous system capacity is overflowing
and it's like the emergency break.
It's the last ditch effort that the system has to try and create relief.
And this isn't just a food thing.
So this can show up with other buffers so some people don't have food problems.
They use alcohol.
They use drugs.
They use cigarettes.
They use scrolling.
They use work.
Anything that numbs you or takes you out of sensation can be used as a buffer.
So we're not trying to remove all the stress from our life.
That's actually impossible.
Sometimes I'll have people reach out to me
and be like, Ashley, and I have five kids.
I'm a stay at home mom.
I also have this job that I'm working
and I'm doing all of these things.
I'm too stressed to heal.
And I always say, well, we can't get rid of your kids.
We can't get rid of your stress.
Instead of getting rid of the stress,
we need to actually grow your capacity
to be with the stress.
So you don't need a buffer, not just a food buffer,
but you don't need a buffer at all.
And this brings me to the next thing
that I often get asked is, do all naturally thin people
just have a big capacity?
Like if we look at the people
who don't have issues with food and are naturally thin,
do they just have this big capacity?
Not necessarily.
Some of them do, but some of them don't.
So some of these naturally thin people,
they do have a big capacity.
And this might be because they grew up
without a lot of trauma, they grew up with parents
who also had big nervous system capacities
because our capacity is often just a direct reflection
of our parents capacities unless we've done work on it.
And so maybe that's the case for them.
They grew up in a really healthy home environment
and they do have a big capacity
and they don't actually have a lot of buffers in their life.
But there are definitely naturally thin people out there
who have other buffers besides food.
They're not using food as a buffer,
but maybe they use drugs, maybe they use alcohol,
maybe they use other more socially acceptable buffers,
like scrolling, shopping, working, things like that,
working out even.
And so my goal for you when I want you to heal
is not to just become thin, that's so lame.
I don't want you to just be thin.
I want you to be a whole more evolved, more healed version
of you.
I don't want you to just swap food for another buffer.
I want you to grow your capacity so you can live your life
with as few buffers as possible.
And over time, as you keep going through your life
once you learn how to do nervous system work
and learn how to grow your capacity,
which I'm going to get to in a minute,
you can keep decreasing the buffers you're using.
I really don't think it's possible to have,
I don't know, I might change my mind about this at some point,
but right now I really don't think it's possible
to have zero buffers.
I think maybe the only person who's had zero buffers
is Jesus.
I don't know if there's anybody else.
I think that as humans, we are imperfect
and we're going to have flaws and we're going to have buffers.
And of course, we can decrease the intensity
of the buffers we're using.
So maybe you start out as a heroin addict
and then you move to alcohol and then you move to food
and then you move to shopping and then you move to scrolling
and then you move to working and then you move to,
I don't know, something less intense than that.
It's like, let's decrease the intensity
of the buffers that we're using.
But we don't have to use food as a buffer.
We don't have to use drugs, we don't use alcohol.
We can like really address these bigger buffers
that are present and as you keep growing your capacity,
you'll need less and less and less of those buffers.
And so yeah, I want you to become naturally thin.
I know I talk about that all the time on social media.
There's not a lot of room for nuance and context,
which is why I love chatting on the podcast.
But more than that, I want you to grow your capacity
so you need less buffers in all areas of your life,
not just with eating.
Another really common myth that I hear
when it comes to nervous system work
is people think that growing your capacity
just means trying to calm yourself down
or bubble baths or walking or meditation.
A lot of times I'll get DMs from people saying,
"Ashlyn, I've been meditating all this time.
Like I've been doing all this nervous system work
by meditating."
And I'm like, "Meditation is great.
Like no hate on meditation,
but it's not necessarily going to grow your capacity
in the most effective way,
at least from what I've seen through working with clients
and in my own life."
These sorts of self-care practices
like bubble baths and walks and essential oils,
they're great, but real nervous system capacity work
is not about being calm,
it's not about doing a spa day.
It's about leaning into the mess of your feelings
in your life safely and learning how to stay with sensation.
So it's actually gonna look a lot more chaotic and crazy
and more tantrum-like than a bubble bath.
And we need to be able to go into the mess of that
to actually grow our capacity.
In the same way that you don't get stronger
by just focusing on recovery days at the gym,
you have to actually put load on your body,
you have to increase your strength,
you have to hit that point of where your muscles are shaking.
Same thing with our emotional capacity,
we have to actually get into the mess
and fuel the pain that's coming up,
not just try and be calm all of the time.
I definitely had a super small nervous system capacity
in my past and that is why I had an eating disorder
and I struggled with self-arm
and lots of other coping strategies buffers
to try and help me feel safe.
But after I started learning how to grow my capacity
and figured out why my cup was so full in the first place,
which I'm gonna talk about,
I am now able to tolerate so many things
that used to send me into a spiral.
Almost all of my OCD patterns have gone away,
my ability to be with mess is so much better
to be with uncertainty.
I can watch movies now if you still do that.
So many things I made a post on Instagram
a few weeks ago of my apartment
because when I was a kid,
I always needed my room to be so perfectly clean all the time.
Everything had to be exactly where I wanted it to be.
I would never leave anything out.
It had to be perfect, perfect, perfect.
And if my mom came in and just moved one thing
to like an inch to the left, I would know immediately.
And I came home the other day from,
I think I was at the co-working place
to my apartment and there was stuff everywhere.
I had drawers open, clothes on the floor,
things all over the counter.
And I looked at it and I was like, wow.
I'm so proud of myself.
Like this is places a mess, like I love this.
And it wasn't bothering me at all
because I've done so much work on my capacity.
I'm not saying that you should leave your place a mess all the time,
but for me, my ability to tolerate mess and chaos
was something that I've worked a lot on now.
And being okay with things, not always being perfect,
not always being in order has changed my life in so many ways.
And the last thing I want to talk about
before I talk about how to actually grow your capacity
is why is your cup so full in the first place?
So if we come back to the cup analogy,
we're trying to grow your cup, give you a bigger cup.
But also, if we just have tons and tons of water
inside the cup, we need to drain it out.
And sometimes it's not that you have a tiny cup,
it's just that you have so much water inside the cup
that has nowhere to go.
And that water is unprocessed emotions,
unintegrated traumas, things that your body is still holding onto,
your nervous system hasn't fully processed them.
And so imagine you take like a needle or a knife
and you poke a bunch of holes into the cup
so the water can finally drain out.
Even before you've grown your capacity,
you're gonna feel better
because you've drained some of that water out.
And the way that we poke the holes,
like what the holes represent,
is learning how to process feelings,
learning how to complete trauma loops,
learning how to create safety in the body,
letting the body release the charge
that has been built up that hasn't been processed.
And that's really important
because we want to have both things.
We want to have a drain in the cup
and we want to grow the size of the cup
so we can hold more in life.
And so how do you actually go your capacity?
I really can't actually just tell me how I actually do it.
Here are some of the things that I use,
things that I've done inside,
or teach inside Heartlet Eating
and what I found to be the most effective.
Number one tool above all is somatics.
I have another podcast episode
that talks way more about somatics.
So check that one out, just scroll.
It's pretty recent.
Look for the one that says somatics
and you'll find it that goes into way more detail.
And I also have a somatics master class.
It's only $28 that teaches you the exact method
that I've created that I use.
I still use this every single day.
But even if you don't purchase that,
what you need to know is that somatics
is essentially learning how to feel
and express sensation in the body
instead of thinking about it, journaling about it,
talking about it, we learn to express it
and process it and move it through.
It's not dancing, you know, dancing is choreographed.
There's steps, there's like a whole process.
It's think of like a kid expressing an emotion.
They're just feeling.
They flail their arms around, they shake, they cry,
they laugh, they giggle, they crawl up.
I teach you how to do that in that somatics master class.
So you can express and release the trapped pain inside of you.
The second thing that's really, really, really important
is learning how to create safety in the body,
learning how to get your nervous system
into that state of ventral vagal,
that state of rest and digest, the state of safety.
Because when we are safe, the body naturally releases pain.
It's like, okay, everything, all the threats are gone.
We can clean house, we can reboot the computer,
we can get out of this dysregulated state
and release the trapped pain inside of us.
It just naturally happens when we can get ourselves
into safety, but also in order to grow our capacity,
we need to have safety.
So just forcing yourself to feel intense emotions
over and over and over again
could actually re-traumatize your system.
Instead, what we wanna do is feel safe inside the emotion
and find our edge, but not push too far past that.
If you try to force yourself to feel feelings
that you aren't ready to feel,
it can actually do more harm than good.
We need to find the edge of sensation that we can be with,
find safety there, and then over time,
we slowly stretch the amount that we can be with.
This is such a nuanced process.
It's hard for me to even explain it inside one episode
'cause there's so much to it,
and that is why I created the semantics master class
and also why Heartlet eating exists
because we go into. more detail with all of this. And it's also important that you have a practitioner, a coach,
somebody to support you through this, because you're going to have questions. You're going to be like,
"Am I doing this right? Should I be feeling this? What should I be doing in this situation?"
And having somebody to bounce that off of is very supportive. So whether you end up joining
heartlet eating or you end up working with someone else who's trained in somatic experiencing
and nervous system work, I just encourage you to get support. And also check out that other
podcasts that I have about somatics. I wanted to read this one win from one of my clients that
is about somatics and growing her capacity because I think this really relates to what we've been
talking about today. She said, "Somatics has been life-changing. I figured out how to integrate it
into almost any activity like while driving in the car or even while at the amusement park with
my son. I'm so tapped into the feelings within now that it's usually really easy and fast to take
myself from fighter flight into ventral vagal. And I can see and feel when my nervous system is
expanding its capacity in real time. So cool. Things that used to push me over the edge of my
window of tolerance, which was very small. Hello life long anxiety. Do not phase me nearly as much.
I have never been in touch with my emotions in my entire life until now." And that is just from
somatics and heartlet eating. So if that's something you also want to experience, if you want to
be able to feel like you're in your life, you don't need life to be less intense. You just feel
like, "I'm here. I've got my life. I don't need food to rescue me from my life." Then you need to
learn how to grow your nervous system capacity. And I'd love to support you with all of that inside
heartlet eating. So you can clear out what's filling your cup up, poke holes in it, learn how to
drain it out, learn how to get a bigger cup. So food doesn't have to be the buffer for you anymore.
The link to heartlet eating and all the information that you need is in the show notes below. You can
always DM me, email me if you have questions. I answer all of them. So you'll hear back from me
personally. And I can't wait to see you there. And if not, I'll just talk to you next week
on another episode.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Nervous system capacity refers to the ability to hold and process bodily sensations, not emotional states, and is best understood as a "cup" that holds emotional and physical sensations.
When this capacity is small, people use food, alcohol, or other habits as buffers to manage overwhelming emotions, creating a cycle of overeating and emotional suppression.
Signs of low capacity include need for control, numbness, overthinking, constant stimulation, fear of uncertainty, and difficulty tolerating mess or chaos.
Food overeating acts as a buffer by stimulating the vagus nerve and reducing emotional sensitivity, but it traps emotions in the body, leading to future storage and emotional buildup.
True healing involves growing capacity—not eliminating emotions—by learning to safely feel, express, and process sensations through somatics and nervous system regulation.
Capacity growth requires both releasing trapped emotions (draining the cup) and expanding the container (increasing capacity) through supportive practices and guidance.
Meditation and self-care alone don’t grow capacity; effective work involves embracing emotional chaos and learning to stay in sensation without avoidance.
Naturally thin people don’t always have large capacity; many use alternative buffers, and the goal is to reduce reliance on all buffers, not just food, for lasting emotional balance.
Summary:
The podcast explores the idea that food struggles aren't about willpower or diet, but about a small nervous system capacity—the body’s limited ability to hold and process sensations. When this capacity is overwhelmed, people turn to food, alcohol, or other habits as buffers to create a sense of safety. This is likened to a cup overflowing with water; when the cup is too small, water spills over, and food acts like a sponge to mop up the mess.
However, this only traps emotions in the body, leading to future physical and emotional burdens. True healing involves growing nervous system capacity—not through constant calmness, but through learning to safely feel and process emotions. This is achieved through somatic practices that allow physical expression of feelings, creating safety in the body to release stored trauma.
The key tools include somatics for emotional release, building ventral vagal safety for regulation, and learning to tolerate mess and uncertainty. While not everyone can eliminate all buffers, the goal is to reduce their need and intensity over time. The podcast emphasizes that healing isn’t about becoming thin, but about becoming more whole, emotionally resilient, and capable of living without relying on food or other coping mechanisms.
Support from a coach or trained practitioner is vital, as the process is nuanced, emotionally intense, and requires personal guidance. Ultimately, growing nervous system capacity allows individuals to live fully in their emotions, without needing food or other substances to feel safe.
FAQs
Nervous system capacity refers to your ability to hold and tolerate bodily sensations and emotions without them spilling over. It's like a cup that holds feeling 'water'; if the cup is too small, sensations overflow, leading to emotional or behavioral reactions.
When your nervous system is overloaded, food becomes a buffer to create immediate safety. Eating stimulates the vagus nerve and reduces emotional sensitivity, providing temporary relief from overwhelming sensations.
Not necessarily. While some naturally thin people have high capacity, others use non-food buffers like alcohol, work, or scrolling. True thinness comes from emotional regulation, not just capacity size.
Signs include needing constant control, feeling numb or disconnected from the body, living in extremes, constant need for stimulation, difficulty with uncertainty, and using food, drugs, or work as buffers.
Meditation and self-care are helpful but not the most effective tools. True capacity growth comes from leaning into messy emotions safely, not just striving for calm or tranquility.
Somatics teaches you to express and release emotions through bodily movement and sensation, helping you process trapped pain and expand your ability to tolerate emotional experiences.
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