The Story Brand framework teaches businesses to grow by using five foundational sound bites that create a compelling, story-driven message. These sound bites—problem, empathy, answer, change, and end result—mirror a classic hero’s journey, helping customers recognize their struggles, feel understood, and see a clear path to transformation. The problem sound bite draws attention by identifying a shared struggle, while empathy establishes trust as the brand acts as a guide. The answer and change sound bites highlight tangible benefits, showing how the product leads to personal growth and identity shifts. The end result offers a vivid vision of a better future, creating strong motivation to act. This narrative structure is proven effective in marketing, as it cuts through ad clutter and aligns with universal storytelling patterns seen in films and literature. Brands like YNAB use these sound bites successfully, from website copy to cocktail party introductions. The Story Brand messaging canvas offers a practical tool to develop and deploy these elements across all marketing channels. Ultimately, if a business cannot clearly answer “why should I buy from you?”—it lacks the essential sound bites. By implementing these principles, entrepreneurs can build attention-grabbing, customer-centered messaging that drives engagement, trust, and conversions.
The bottom line is this, if I asked you why should I buy from you, can you answer?
Can you answer competently? Can you answer in such a way that I want to pull out my credit card and purchase what it is that you offer?
If you can't, you need to start with the five foundational sound bites.
You're listening to the Story Brand podcast based on Donald Miller's best-selling book, Building a Story Brand.
The Story Brand framework is made up of seven key elements, all of them anchored in one powerful idea.
Your customer is the hero and you are their guide. Each week on the podcast, you'll get exactly what you need to craft clear messaging that connects with more customers and grows your business.
Now let's dive in with your host, Donald Miller.
How do you talk about your business so that people actually pay attention to you?
It's a really hard thing to do and most of us screw it up. When we talk about our business, we just ramble on and on, we use vague language, we use inside language, and people don't pay attention.
Today we're going to solve that problem and I'm going to teach you to write sound bites that help you grow your business. These are repeatable things that you can say.
There's going to be five of them, repeatable things that you can say that make people want to pay attention to you, that make people lean in.
This is a really important exercise and the reason is there are about 1.7 billion people who have paid not to see your ads.
That is 42% of internet users are paying to never see your ad and you've got to break through with your content in order to break through this barrier.
Not only that, there are seeing already 4,000 ads a day, they are paying attention to fewer than a hundred of them.
I want to know what's going on with the hundred that they're paying attention to. What are those people doing differently?
That's what we're going to answer in today's episode. The bottom line is we've got to ask the question, how do we get attention? Attention is really scarce, really hard to get.
If you want to bring attention to your brand, you are going to need some sort of formula, some sort of strategy. I'm going to teach you to write 5 sound bites today that get you that attention.
All of it, by the way, is part of the story brand messaging canvas. This is a one page canvas in which you clarify the message that you use to talk about your brand and your product.
And then you use that message to outline a marketing campaign, an actual map of the things that you're going to do with those messages inside of it in order to get that attention.
If that sounds good to you, if you don't have a one page messaging campaign, go to messaging canvas.com and download it for free. When you go to messaging canvas.com to download this messaging canvas, it looks like this.
And there are parts to it. The part that is at the very top is the four rules of messaging. These are the four rules that you want to follow in order to clarify your message. And then right below that are the five sound bites that I'm going to teach you to write in this episode.
Your problem, empathy, answer, change and end result sound bite. If that sounds like a mystery to you, I'm going to explain it in a second. But these are the sound bites that will finally cause people to want to pay attention to you and want to do business with you.
Then you can actually take these five sound bites and you can write your tagline elevator pitch and brand story. I've got another episode about those three things. And then you can take those and you can create a marketing and messaging campaign that works in three phases.
First, curiosity, make people curious about your brand. Second, you're going to do that with your curiosity sound bites that I'm going to help you write today. Second, enlightened people, you need enlightenment collateral, you need PDFs, you need lead generators, you need videos, you need podcast episodes, you need case studies.
You need to spend time with people and give them a way to sort of discover you and you need to enlighten folks and then you need commitment incentives. This is a three phase marketing campaign, peak people's curiosity, then enlighten them, then incentivize them to buy.
The way I look at a business, I look at it like a house and a house with three specific parts as it relates to this sort of metaphor. First is you need front steps. Five front steps represent the five sound bites that get people to pay attention.
That's where they walk up to the front porch and the front porch is where they get enlightened. They're still not going to go through the front door. They're not comfortable doing that yet, but they get enlightened. They trust you, you become familiar and then you actually incentivize them to commit and come through the front door where they're doing business and become a brand evangelist because they have such a great experience.
This is what a good healthy business looks like. Front steps, front porch, front door, looks safe, looks warm, looks inviting, but most businesses look like this. They've got no front steps, nothing to invite me to do business with you, no way to be enlightened or grow familiar with you, and then you're not incentivizing them, which is the equivalence of basically boarding up the front door.
Let's talk about those front steps. Let's talk about the sound bites that make people turn to you, they get curious about you, and they want to do business with you. Those front steps represent five sound bites that I think you should write.
The first is called the problem sound bite, and the purpose of the problem sound bite is to attract attention. What that means is you need to identify one dominant problem that you saw in the market. Whatever that is, fatigue at two o'clock, a lack of productivity, company's not making enough revenue.
Your house has roaches in it that you just discovered. You're having trouble gaining muscle over 50. Whatever that is, it's a very specific problem, and the reason people pay attention to what problem is, we are problems solving machines.
Even being loved to solve problems, we're really good at solving problems, but we need help solving problems. I really believe that every dollar I've ever spent when I pull out my wallet was spent to solve a problem.
If I bought lunch, I saw the problem of hunger. I went to a movie, saw the problem if I was bored, needed to be entertained. If I took the family to Disneyland, we needed to bond as a family, we needed a little break, and we needed to create some memories.
I was always solving a problem every time I pulled out my wallet. Now brands that tend to make a lot of money, they own a problem. And what that means is, if anybody has that problem, I think of your brand.
So how do I become a brand that helps people solve a problem? I own a problem. I identify a single problem, and I say, if you struggle with this, come see us.
If you are worried about this, come see us. That's your problem sound bite. Now once you get your problem sound bite, you do the next sound bite, and that is you empathize with people who have that problem.
What the empathy sound bite does is it positions you as the guide in the hero's life. You are Yoda, they are Luke Skywalker. You are Hamich, they are Katniss.
You are the one who says, you know what, if you have this problem, we see you, we feel for you, and we don't think you should suffer with that.
So you need that empathy sound bite, because it's extremely effective to position you as the authority in that person's life who has decided to solve that problem or help you solve that problem.
Next is the answer sound bite, and this is the sound bite that we all kind of go to first, but it really comes third. The answer sound bite is, that's why we created this product.
We created this product for people who have this problem. So in order it's, look, nobody should have to struggle with this.
If you really feel for you, if you found yourself in this situation, that's why we created this. Those three sound bites build on each other to invite people into a story in which they use your product to solve their problem, three incredibly effective sound bites.
But let's not stop. Let's actually add even more value with the change sound bite. The purpose of the change sound bite is to add personal value to the offer. And what that means is, not only are we going to help you with this, but we're going to help you transform into a more competent version of yourself.
You don't have to feel guilt anymore. You're going to be more productive. You'll have more money at the end of the day. You'll be, you know, it's an identity transformation that you are also offering when you offer to solve the problem. I'll explain that a little more in a minute.
Finally, the last sound bite is the end result sound bite. And that is the vision that you are casting for your customer's future. If you buy our product, you will be transformed and your life will look like X. It is a vision of your customer's future after that problem has been solved.
Now, if you look, it's an acronym problem, empathy, answer change, end result. These are the peace sound bites is what we call them, just a way for you to remember what those sound bites are. But if I actually asked you, what problem does your company solve? Could you answer very succinctly and very clearly? If not, you need a problem sound bite.
If I said, why do you care about somebody like me who's in this situation? And you can't answer, you need an empathy sound bite. If I say, what do you have that will solve this problem for me? And you can't say, well, that's why we created this product and that's product specifically to solve this problem. You don't have an answer sound bite.
If I said, what else do I get? And you can't say, don, you're going to become a master at or you're going to become really great at or you're going to have a lot more peace of mind. You don't have a change sound bite. And if you can't answer the question of, what does my life look like after I buy your product? Then you don't have an end result sound bite.
I believe firmly, these are the five sound bites that you need to grow your business.
These are them.
This is the foundation.
These are the basic sound bites that you need
to grow a business.
And once you have written these sound bites
and written them well, they go on headers on websites,
on backs of business cards.
They go in your booth in the signage at your trade show.
They go on brochures.
They go at the beginning and end of podcasts.
You say them at cocktail parties
when you introduce yourself.
These are the sound bites that when you repeat them,
they grow your business.
Do you ever wonder why some marketing instantly grabs
your attention while other marketing you just ignore?
It's not about luck.
It's not about a bigger budget.
It's that the marketing that works actually follows
just a few simple principles that actually makes it
easier to understand, makes it memorable,
and most important, impossible to overlook.
That's why Story Brand has a free guide,
the four rules of messaging that will teach you
those principles.
In just a few minutes, you'll have a simple framework
for evaluating every message you create,
from your website and emails, to your ads
and sales conversations.
Download your free copy of those four rules today
by clicking the link in the show notes.
- Now let's ask the question,
why do these sound bites work so well?
It's the magic of the five piece sound bites.
Well, these work really well because they invite
your customer into a story.
And every story is about a hero who is at peace.
The hero starts at peace, everything is great,
but that only lasts, as you know, for a few seconds,
and then all of a sudden, the hero finds themselves
in a hole, in a pit.
They are stuck in this pit and they can't get out.
That's the problem sound bite.
And as soon as people hear your problem sound bite,
they recognize you know what?
I'm in that pit.
I have that problem.
I need to solve that problem.
And your sound bite calls them to realize
they have the problem that you solve.
That's the importance of the problem sound bite.
Then you come along and you empathize with them.
Of course, you're not in the pit with them.
You've already gotten out of the pit.
You've helped a lot of other people out of the pit,
but you say to them, you know what,
we really care about people who are in this pit.
We're worried about you.
We feel for you, nobody should have to be in a pit.
That's the empathy sound bite.
And then you actually throw a rope down into the pit.
That's your product.
Your product is the rope that solves the hero's problem,
helps them get out of the pit.
That makes them want to grab the rope
and increases value of your product.
Cause they realize, look, it's not just a product.
It's a product that gets me out of a pit.
And that's why I need to buy it.
Then they use your product to get out of the pit.
And if they do, they will be changed.
They'll have a new identity.
They'll be, you know, better at whatever.
Feel less anxiety, get a great night's sleep.
Feel good about their parents going into senior living,
become more productive, pay less taxes.
You know, whatever that is, you have changed their life
in some way, and then you give them a vision
of their life as it looks like
after you solve the problem.
This is a 2,500 year old formula in storytelling.
It has been used in every movie you've ever seen,
every novel, they just kind of repeat this formula
over and over.
Think about it.
What's the last novel that you read, right?
What's the last movie that you saw?
Wasn't it about a hero who had a stable life
fell into some sort of metaphorical pit?
Somebody came along to help them.
They had to do something to climb out of the pit.
At the end of the story, they were changed
and transformed person who had a better life.
Is it that what your favorite movie is about?
Why isn't your brand about that?
What's the story you were inviting customers into?
If you haven't written these sound bites yet,
they are foundational.
So again, go to the story brand messaging canvas,
download it at messagingcampus.com, fill it out.
It will help you figure out,
and I've got some instructions on how to do it.
It will help you figure out your five foundational sound bites.
All right, here's an example story brand messaging canvas
from a company called YNAB.
And it's a money management tool.
It's a whole philosophy behind how you deal with money.
They've helped hundreds of thousands,
if not millions of people.
But they came to us and said, Don, we're doing great,
but we're not reaching our potential,
like we'd like to reach our potential.
We think tens of millions of people should be using
the YNAB app when you help us clarify our message.
So they brought their leadership team in.
We all met for a full day and met several times afterwards.
Talking about their messaging and their strategy.
And I'm so proud of the people in the leaders at YNAB,
they executed so extremely well.
And they're doing very, very well, by the way,
because they are clarified their message.
In fact, one of their five sound bites
became the title of a book that hit the New York Times best
seller.
If you're not familiar with the YNAB app,
go download it, we love our clients.
But let's look at these five sound bites.
Their problem sound bite is, have you ever worried about money?
It's a great choice.
We've all worried about money.
We've all been through a season where we've worried about money.
So they actually chose this as their foundational problem
sound bite.
Anybody worried about money?
Pay attention to what I'm about to tell you.
Now, notice how, if you end, actually stand up in a crowded
room and you're giving a keynote.
And you say, by the way, raise your hand if you've ever
worried about money.
Every hand in the room is going up.
But not only is every hand in the room going up,
everybody goes, well, now you're obligated to tell me
what to do if I'm worried about money.
It sounds like this guy is going to have some advice.
If I worry about money, let me lean in.
You've hooked the room.
That's why it's called a curiosity sound bite.
It peaks people's curiosity.
Next is the empathy sound bite.
We know what it's like to check your balance before you
swipe your card.
Boy, that's a moment, right?
We've been there.
We understand that.
That says to the person who's ever worried about money,
I get you.
I understand you.
I'm a survival asset.
I'm here to help you.
Then the answer sound bite.
If that's you, by the way, download the YNAB app.
Now, notice we've connected the problem sound bite.
Have you ever worried about money?
To the answer sound bite.
If you have, download the YNAB app, right?
So problem empathy answer, they're all moving together
to invite the customer into a specifically written story
so that the customer understands what they're
getting into here.
And then the change sound bite, if you do download our app
and you use our app, you're going to get good with money.
That's your identity.
You are somebody who is good with money
is the identity that you also get,
along with solving the problem, when you download our app.
And then the end result, you will never worry about money
again.
Five incredible sound bites.
If that's you, download the YNAB app and get good with money
so you never worry about money again.
Do you see how tight that is?
And now, if you're at a cocktail party and somebody said,
hey, what do you do for a living?
You say, well, have you ever worried about money?
Yeah, I don't think you should have to worry about money.
I feel for you.
If you ever think about money when you're
swiping that credit card, I have an app called YNAB.
You can download it in the app store.
And when you download it, it teaches you all about money
and how to spend money, how to save money, all that kind of stuff,
so that you get good with money.
And by the time you use it for about a year,
you'll never have to worry about money again.
So that is how you would introduce yourself in a cocktail party.
It's also the first chapter of your book
or something that you're going to say in your keynote address.
You're going to put this language on your website.
It's going to be really much better language
to talk about your brand.
And you basically want to take these five soundbites,
memorize them, use them, repeat them over and over and over
so that people know why they should do business with you.
Now, you want to take those five soundbites,
create taglines, elevator pitches, brand stories.
Their tagline is get good with money.
Their elevator pitch, most budgeting apps
just show you where your money went after you've spent it.
YNAB is the only app that has you
give every dollar a job before the month starts.
So you get good with money and never worry about money again.
Did you notice the same soundbites are in the elevator pitch
that were in our foundational soundbites?
Your tagline elevator pitch and your brand story
are just those foundational soundbites
that actually get used and massaged
in all of your marketing collateral.
And then if you keep looking at their messaging canvas,
they've outlined, what tools are they
going to use these soundbites and what curiosity tools?
Tagline, booth signage, elevator pitch, the website hero
section, what enlightenment tools, a money worry assessment,
a six email nurture sequence, what commitment tools,
a sales page, five email sales sequence,
an onboarding sequence, three 34 day trial offer.
The messaging canvas allows you to outline what tools
you think you need to create to bring people's interest
to your brand, to enlighten them and spend time with them
and gain some familiarity and trust,
and then also to incentivize them to actually commit
all on one sheet of paper.
The bottom line is this, if I asked you,
why should I buy from you?
Can you answer?
If you can't, you need to start with the five
foundational soundbites.
You can get your messaging canvas at messaging canvas.com.
Make sure to go there, start filling it out today.
I really want you to grow your business,
but I don't think you're gonna do it unless you figure out
the right words to describe your offer.
Do that with the five foundational soundbites.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The five foundational sound bites—problem, empathy, answer, change, and end result—create a compelling narrative that draws customers in and builds trust.
These sound bites mirror a timeless storytelling structure
The problem sound bite grabs attention by identifying a universal struggle, making customers feel seen and personally connected.
The empathy sound bite positions the brand as a guide and supporter, fostering emotional connection and credibility.
The answer, change, and end result sound bites add tangible value, showing how the product transforms the customer’s identity and life.
These sound bites are essential for crafting taglines, elevator pitches, website content, and marketing campaigns that are clear, memorable, and persuasive.
Without these sound bites, businesses fail to break through the noise of 4,000 daily ads and lose the attention of consumers who are increasingly selective.
The Story Brand messaging canvas provides a structured framework to develop, organize, and deploy these sound bites across all customer touchpoints.
Summary:
The Story Brand framework teaches businesses to grow by using five foundational sound bites that create a compelling, story-driven message. These sound bites—problem, empathy, answer, change, and end result—mirror a classic hero’s journey, helping customers recognize their struggles, feel understood, and see a clear path to transformation. The problem sound bite draws attention by identifying a shared struggle, while empathy establishes trust as the brand acts as a guide.
The answer and change sound bites highlight tangible benefits, showing how the product leads to personal growth and identity shifts. The end result offers a vivid vision of a better future, creating strong motivation to act. This narrative structure is proven effective in marketing, as it cuts through ad clutter and aligns with universal storytelling patterns seen in films and literature.
Brands like YNAB use these sound bites successfully, from website copy to cocktail party introductions. The Story Brand messaging canvas offers a practical tool to develop and deploy these elements across all marketing channels. ”—it lacks the essential sound bites.
By implementing these principles, entrepreneurs can build attention-grabbing, customer-centered messaging that drives engagement, trust, and conversions.
FAQs
The five sound bites are: problem, empathy, answer, change, and end result. They form a story structure that helps customers see how your product solves their problem and transforms their life.
Problem sound bites attract attention by identifying a specific, relatable issue people face. This instantly creates connection, as people recognize themselves in the problem and become curious about a solution.
It positions you as a guide who understands and cares about the customer’s struggle, building trust and showing that you see them as a person, not just a buyer.
It clearly states that your product was created specifically to solve the identified problem, making the offer feel relevant, personal, and directly aligned with the customer’s needs.
It adds personal transformation by showing how using your product changes the customer’s identity or lifestyle—such as becoming more productive or confident.
It paints a vivid vision of the customer’s future after solving the problem, giving them a clear and motivating picture of the life they’ll enjoy as a result of the purchase.
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