In this episode, Darren O’Lean shares his personal philosophy on wealth, shaped by a lifetime of building, losing, and rebuilding money. He contrasts his parents’ opposing money teachings—his dad’s disciplined approach of earning through work versus his mom’s tendency to give money freely—which created an internal conflict he had to resolve. Through experience, including losing hundreds of thousands of dollars to a fraudulent spiritual advisor and failed investments in gold and sustainable projects, he learned the importance of discernment and vetting people rather than assuming good intentions. He emphasizes that money is a medium of exchange, a fuel for creativity, and a cycle of receiving and giving, not a pile to hoard. Darren advocates betting on yourself, investing in projects aligned with your vision, and taking risks in areas you care about, as he did with Shakeology, his podcast, and Netflix’s Down to Earth, which required years of personal investment before yielding returns. He also stresses practical financial structure, such as trusts, tax planning, and protecting assets, while maintaining ownership and control. Ultimately, he encourages listeners to build discernment before net worth, chase alignment over opportunity, and treat wealth as an energetic tool for creating positive impact. By staying true to what you care about and being all in, he believes others will support your vision, which he defines as true wealth.
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these things are inconveniences. These are conveniences where we need to dig into our
understanding of where this programming came from. So I was outsourcing my discernment,
expecting money to appear without doing the work. And that was my modern day default.
And these defaults are never neutral. They're designed to create outcomes. So I got two
completely different money educations growing up and they were at war with each other for a long
time. My dad's philosophy, which I now see like the way he delivered it sucked because he was
yelling. He was angry, all of that shit. So that aside, the philosophy was great because it was
through discipline. It was through having my own checking account. When I was 11 years old,
having my paper route, mowing lawns,
all of this stuff, picking beans, baling hay, my paper route I had from 11 to 18 years old.
Like I really had it. I made money. I bought my BMX bikes. I felt proud of it. Every time I could
buy a new pedal, I was proud because I saved money. I earned it. And if I wanted something,
I would get clear and I would go for it. I loved that. My dad made me understand that.
My mom's philosophy, on the other hand, was kind of opposite.
She'd undercut what my dad's discipline because she was upset that he was doing it aggressively.
So she would undercut him and just give me money so that it would let me do the thing without earning
the thing. And I know that that came from love for my mom, but it messed up my understanding.
And because it taught me underneath the discipline my dad was building, I also expected money just
to show up. But again,
both good and bad. Good because it's not scarcity thinking. On the one hand, I'm like, money's showing
up. It's great, especially as an entrepreneur all my life. Bad because it shortcuts the very muscle
my dad was building and that the discipline. Now I am a disciplined person on many levels,
but when it comes to money, I kick some ass. I made money and I also lost it. I spent a lot of
my adult life rectifying this clash.
Learning where my parents' voice, learning which parent I was actually going to listen to.
So now, taking responsibility for my life, I extract, like a nice hot tea, the good constituents
from what my dad was teaching and what my mom was teaching and bring them together through
discipline, expecting money to show up. That works. That works for me. And I think about a lot
of people are running versions.
Of this same internal contra. So I think of you. I think of all of us. We're running these
mechanisms of what money means, these contraindications, these, these contradictions
even. And even now it's something I have to discern all the time. So going to work and
working for something makes the most sense to me. And when I do it like field of dreams,
they will come back to me. And I think about that. Because I have examples of both. And I'll tell you about what those are in a bit. So I've had
real wealth. I'm not going to get into the numbers, but I've made millions and millions of
dollars. I've had some incredible things. And here's the thing. I expected it always to be
there and didn't hold money with the respect that it deserves. And I've also done this many times,
many different ways. Made money this way, made money that way, lost money this way, lost money
this way. Made money this way, made
money that way. And some of this seems very simple. Listen, I didn't invest. I've invested
some stuff now and I should have. There's a lot of great ways to invest, ways to support
compounding interest, all of these things. And there are some things I'll say at the end
that I use now that are badass and powerful. So hang on. But I've made many bad deals and people
listening to people. And I've had lawsuits. Currently, I just won another lawsuit of
a lady that used spirituality against me. I had a connection with her and she used spirituality.
She stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from me, at least $100,000 and from other friends of
mine. So I went after her. And I don't like the conflict of doing it. But with my attorney,
I decided to go, that's not right. And she's hurting other people. So I decided to do it.
I've also had other situations where I believe someone to do something and they didn't do it.
I even invested in gold at
one point at the source of excavation in a sustainable way. And it got stolen along the way,
the whole Africa story. So I lost expecting, you know, flipping a bunch of money. I have so many
stories like this. I trusted some sustainable housing developments, power systems, other projects
in other countries, and they all didn't work out because I wasn't also truly involved. I was just
wanting to win the
lottery. I assumed people would do the right thing because that's what I would have done. But again,
I'm not saying this as a pessimist. Most people don't act in the integrity that I do. Therefore,
I have to understand that and use discernment. And once I know that I can create assurances,
I can create plans, I can create back doors where I can protect myself through agreements and
policies and everything else. I'm not saying that I'm not going to win the lottery. I'm not going to pretend that losing the money didn't hurt
because it really, really did. It hurt from the personal perspective. Like I can't believe someone
would lie, steal and cheat. I still can't. Doesn't make sense to me. Doesn't make sense to my
Minnesota nice qualities. But they do. They absolutely do. And so now I sniff them out.
I listen to my intuition and I do vetting. I look beyond what people say.
So that I can hold the integrity of them and what we actually want to do up higher and higher.
So I believe that money certainly is an opportunist, right? It creates. It is a medium
of exchange. It is a vehicle of creativity. It is a means. It's not the end. It's what the money
is creating that means something to me. It's fuel. It's not the destination. Of course, do I love money?
Yes. Do I want hundreds of millions? Yes. And I will have it. But not just to have it. Not just
to flaunt. Because underneath it all, I know where I can put that money. I've been exposed to things
all over the world. I've been exposed to incredible technologies, movements that can change the world.
And I'm not even saying that flippantly. I mean, honestly. So I want to continue to invest into
those projects. So yes.
Bring on the money so that I can continue to receive and continue to give. Wealth is receiving
and giving, not accumulating. Money loves to move. It's a cycle, not a pile. The people I know
who are actually wealthy in the fullest sense of the word aren't hoarders. They're in a flow.
They are flow. Money flows and moves through them towards the things that they care about
at least. That's the people I hold as mentors. They're generous. They're loving. And yes, they
want their money invested into things that generate the things that they care about, which is
absolutely what I believe. Wealth is best created by doing what you love and care about. My point of
view, it doesn't make sense to me when I go off just to make money. It doesn't make sense. So if I find
something that I feel the world and people will benefit from, then I want to get it out in the
world. I have some things coming. I have some adaptogens, medicinal mushrooms, tinctures,
things that are coming that are not out yet that are so special, procured, honored, letting the
plant do its miraculousness in the world and for the bodies. So those things, it's in my DNA. I
don't want to do it. In terms of
the promotions I do, the podcast stuff, the social media posts, I support companies and brands I'm
aligned with in my heart. Because here's the point of view. Here's my point of view. If I'm going to
put energy and time into something, I want it to line up with my integrity, my heart, my direction
of purpose, and my vision. My vision is a world that thrives and is healthy and happy outside of
fatal conveniences into a world that thrives and is healthy and happy outside of fatal conveniences into
a world that thrives and is healthy and happy outside of fatal conveniences into a world that thrives and
is healthy and happy outside of fatal conveniences into a world that's abundant and joyful and
possible, fulfilled, full of solutions. Solutions is a driving force. Possibilities is the driving
force of my wealth creation. So every partner, every deal, every yes I've said yes to is something
I believe in. If I don't believe it, I'm not going to put energy into it. I don't care enough
just to make money on something just to make money on. It's not worth it to me. So I filled
through those layers. I get clear on my vision.
And if it lines up with my vision, I'm all in.
If there's one decision that defines my financial life more than any other, it's this.
I bet on myself.
I learn to bet on myself, on my vision over and over and over again.
Some things work, some things don't.
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Instead of handing that off to someone else, no.
I keep the power.
If I'm doing something in a partnership, in a collaboration, I'm contributing my energy to that for it to be successful.
So, superfood hunting.
15 plus years of my life.
I didn't start out as an expert.
I started out.
I started out as someone curious enough to get dirty, to show up in countries around the world, to learn, learn about the plant, learn about the anthropologic understanding of what and where this stuff was coming from so that people could benefit from it.
I just threw myself in the middle of it.
And then I started formulating.
I started formulating so that I could experience and know and understand what was actually going on.
In this crazy supplement world, that everyone markets something and no one knows anything about where it's truly coming from and what those people are and the land and the constituents and the compounds that are actually in those things.
That experience of throwing myself into and through the curiosity lens landed me to generating Shakeology and other products that created health and healing for people.
Millions and millions of people creating billions of dollars, not to me, but for, in this case, Beachbody and Body, it's now called, that is a fulfillment that's so abundant.
You get to get money from it, but you get, most importantly, to impact the world.
So, I'm not just saying this to boast.
I'm saying that I took risks through things that were passionate, creating my own MBA program so that I can learn.
Be a beginner, be curious, and then become an expert in certain areas.
The podcast is the same.
Podcasts, I invested so much time and money before I got a dollar.
Years.
It's probably year four where I even made any money whatsoever.
Investing $30,000 to $60,000 a year.
Now, realizing and knowing that my podcast is the top ten and I think the top five alternative podcasts.
That was because I care.
With 500 plus episodes sitting down with people I'm curious about, I'm connecting to, so that I can share that message.
And then scaling that, sharing that message, aligning products and people that I think can benefit people, making money from the podcast.
So that it becomes, it's self-generating.
And now, this recent one, the Roadmap to Happiness.
I learned a lot from downtown.
Down to Earth.
So, having it be the majority of my idea on Down to Earth and what we did and the cornerstone of the episodes.
I had written down and then Zach was able to bring that into Netflix and we had a show.
That's abundant.
That is, it didn't take money.
It took connection, collaboration, contribution.
I'm forever grateful for Zach Efron for bringing me into Netflix and then getting to meet.
All the amazing people, producers that came together to create this healthy tension of creation to bring something like that.
Winning Emmys, all of the stuff.
Now, but I learned a lot.
I had no control.
I had no ownership, very little.
Enough to not have anything.
I didn't make really any money on the process, a little bit.
But in the time of creating it and all the time it took on the acute side.
I lost money.
But of course it was abundant because it opened up my world of docu-series and creating and sharing messages of hope and possibilities for people.
Which then lend itself to the roadmap to happiness.
Which we're doing right now.
We have a couple more episodes to shoot.
But we're slinging.
We haven't given over any ownership.
We own it between my partner and I.
And we are driving the destiny.
Having.
Some of the top A-listers on the planet being involved with our project.
This is creation.
Will we make money?
I hope.
Has it been me investing my own money and time for the last two and a half years?
Yes.
Because again, I'm investing in myself.
Because it lines up with my vision.
A vision that I see that works.
That is creating hope and possibilities for others.
So from the ground up, going back to what my day was.
From what my dad taught me, discipline, creation, working every day at it, believing it.
And with my mom's good side, knowing that people, places, things, and money are going to show up.
That's where I've transmuted the challenges of both my mom and dad.
Transmuted them into the gifts that they actually gave me and let go of the pain and trauma of the other stuff.
But that takes also hard work.
To learn.
About what these patterns are.
So that I can take 100% responsibility.
Because only then, I then can take back the power and choose from there.
So I've also got serious about structure around money.
Not just creating wealth, but protecting it once I have it.
I've set up trusts.
And I can get into more of this later at another time with whole life insurance policies.
With this philosophy of own nothing but control everything.
It lends itself to other.
Leverage points of money so that I can control the money flow.
I have tax write-offs that I didn't have before.
This to me is empowering because I'm not giving my money to other organizations or situations expecting them to do this.
And within the trust, I am able to create but also keep those dollars flowing within my own system.
Again, it might take a little bit of time, but it does help.
It might not make sense to you.
I'll do another deep dive on that at some point and get some experts on so they can, we can really dive into what all that looks like.
But that's the empowerment side.
That, that is the reflection of looking at money as an entity of respect.
I deserve you.
I, I let you flow through me so that I can create so that I can continue on my vision.
So build your discernment before.
You build your net worth, vet people, look at their patterns, take time cultures around the world.
Certainly the Asian cultures, they get, they create time to get to know you before you even start talking business that's powerful.
So instead of just believing what someone says, look at them through the lens of discernment character and get to know who they really are before you give them too much credit.
And again, this is against my Minnesota aspects because I want to trust people in what they say and what they do, but not all people act that way.
Treat yourself as your first investment before you hand money to someone else's deal.
Ask what you're building in your own way.
How are you building it?
What can you contribute?
Don't give your power away on any project.
That's my point of view.
Chase alignment, not just opportunity.
If a deal.
Or partnership doesn't match, be willing to walk away.
when they flash all the money if you go against your instincts it will come back to bite you
practice wealth as a cycle be on purpose receive receive receive without guilt and by the way
wealth shows up not just in money it shows up in all areas life is regenerative and giving and
receiving is a part of it notice when you're hoarding notice when you're coming out of fear
and be clear on your intention plan for the fact that most people won't do the right thing
as default money creates weirdness in people's universes that's not pessimism it's taking off
the mask so that i can see things fully and get your structure sorted get the people around you
and set up your payments set up your accountants set up your tax people like 10
per
of your income, suck it away, 40% suck it away for taxes, whatever you need to do to know that
those things are creations and set yourself up for success because you know the tax bill is coming.
So be proactive. So again, there's a lot of practical things that we can get into around
wealth, but this is the first one because I haven't talked about wealth much, but I wanted
to give you this. I've built wealth. I've lost wealth. I've built it again. And the version of
it I have now is lighter than any version I've had before because it's not tied up to an identity.
It's fueled by things I actually care about, by my own projects, by things that align with me
and other people's projects, by the agreements that are clear, by having direct, clear communication
with people. So I'm going to give you this. I've built wealth. I've lost wealth. I've built it again.
I'm going to give you this.
Especially around money. And because of that, other opportunities open up. It takes, so money is a
powerful, energetic tool of creation in our modernity, in our modern world. Use it, respect it,
receive it, share it with discernment, with possibilities and align with your vision.
And if you don't know what your vision is, start there. What do you care about? What do you want?
What do you see? And be willing to vision your life. So if you've taken one thing from this
episode, please share it. It's free. Share it with other people and let this be a beacon of hope
that you can today create abundance by what you care about and what you're committed to.
That is my greatest single superpower. When I align with something, people want to
support it. I have shown that many times over. So when I've fallen off and I've lost money,
I go back to what I care about because when I care about something and I'm all in,
others want to support it. So that's wealth from my perspective in the modern world.
And I'll see you next time. So be clear, be on your vision, be passionate, come from your heart.
And in that creation that attracts people, places, and things,
to support you on your vision. That to me is true wealth. Peace.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Money is a tool for creation, not an end goal; wealth is about receiving and giving in a cycle, not accumulating.
Darren’s conflicting childhood money lessons (dad’s discipline vs. mom’s ease) shaped his need to reconcile both into a balanced approach.
He has experienced both wealth and loss, including lawsuits and stolen investments, which taught him to use discernment and vet people before trusting them.
Betting on himself and investing in passion projects (e.g., Shakeology, podcast, Netflix’s Down to Earth) has been key to his success, even when it required years of upfront investment.
Practical wealth strategies include setting up trusts, tax planning, saving percentages of income, and building clear agreements to protect assets.
He advises chasing alignment over opportunity, treating yourself as your first investment, and planning for others’ potential lack of integrity.
Summary:
In this episode, Darren O’Lean shares his personal philosophy on wealth, shaped by a lifetime of building, losing, and rebuilding money. He contrasts his parents’ opposing money teachings—his dad’s disciplined approach of earning through work versus his mom’s tendency to give money freely—which created an internal conflict he had to resolve. Through experience, including losing hundreds of thousands of dollars to a fraudulent spiritual advisor and failed investments in gold and sustainable projects, he learned the importance of discernment and vetting people rather than assuming good intentions.
He emphasizes that money is a medium of exchange, a fuel for creativity, and a cycle of receiving and giving, not a pile to hoard. Darren advocates betting on yourself, investing in projects aligned with your vision, and taking risks in areas you care about, as he did with Shakeology, his podcast, and Netflix’s Down to Earth, which required years of personal investment before yielding returns. He also stresses practical financial structure, such as trusts, tax planning, and protecting assets, while maintaining ownership and control.
Ultimately, he encourages listeners to build discernment before net worth, chase alignment over opportunity, and treat wealth as an energetic tool for creating positive impact. By staying true to what you care about and being all in, he believes others will support your vision, which he defines as true wealth.
FAQs
The main theme is wealth creation and financial discernment, focusing on building wealth through alignment with your vision, discipline, and taking responsibility for your financial life.
Darren's dad taught him discipline and earning money through work, while his mom gave him money freely, creating a clash. He later combined the discipline from his dad with the expectation that money will show up from his mom.
Darren advises building discernment before building net worth, vetting people, looking at their patterns, and not assuming everyone acts with integrity. He recommends taking time to know people before doing business.
Darren believes wealth is receiving and giving, not accumulating. Money loves to move and is a cycle, not a pile, flowing through people towards what they care about.
Betting on yourself means investing your own time, money, and energy into projects aligned with your vision, rather than outsourcing your discernment or expecting money to appear without work.
Darren mentions setting up trusts, whole life insurance policies, and having accountants and tax people to protect wealth, following the philosophy of 'own nothing but control everything.'
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