This episode of LifeKit addresses the complex transition of working parents, emphasizing that returning to work after childbirth is not just a logistical shift but a profound transformation of identity, mental health, and daily functioning. The host, Mariel, introduces Amy Beakum, a parenting and workplace expert, who stresses that planning a return to work—before even leaving—helps reduce anxiety and sets realistic expectations. Flexibility is key: parents should ask for adjustments like mid-week returns, early childcare, or shorter workdays to ease the transition. The show highlights the emotional toll of dual roles, noting that many parents experience identity confusion, guilt, and burnout. Experts like Aaron Steinberg and Derby Saxby explain that parenting reshapes the brain, enhancing empathy and emotional awareness, though recovery can take years. A major theme is the absence of structural support in the U.S.—no federal paid leave, high childcare costs, and financial instability—making it harder for parents to balance work and family. The episode also promotes self-compassion, emotional safety, and community as essential tools. Resources such as 988 for mental health crises, postpartum support, and parenting groups are recommended. Ultimately, the message is that parenting is a lifelong, evolving process, not a temporary phase, and that success lies in adaptability, self-awareness, and support—not perfection.
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Hi there, I'm Mariel, I'll be onboarding you today.
Welcome to your unofficial orientation to working parenthood.
Now lucky for you, I'm not going to send you down to the front office to get your ID photo
taken, and you don't have to get a laptop set up with IT.
But if you open your welcome packet, you'll see that you have your work cut out for you.
Learning from worker to parent to working parent is no small task, especially if you're
making the transition soon after your baby is born, as a lot of us in the US do.
What people are doing is they're learning two new roles really fast under a lot of pressure
with lack of sleep and zero guidance and zero support.
And it doesn't have to be that way, it's a ridiculous way to do things.
Amy Beakum is the founder and CEO of the Center for Parental Leave Leadership.
He's a consulting firm that helps employers and working parents navigate parental leave.
And she says there are things you can do to set yourself up for success here.
For instance, before you even go on parental leave.
I often say the best way to prepare for leave is to plan your return.
You know when you're supposed to report back.
So come up with a plan, even if it has to change later.
Start to put in mind where do you want to be?
What does your schedule look like for you?
So everyone is thinking about that reentry even before you go.
One tip here, you can ask for a brief check in from your employer before you come back.
That way you're not totally in the dark.
Rather than I haven't talked to anybody in three months, I don't know what's going on
at work.
And I am this person who is just barely beginning to lift my head up.
Now if you are about to return to work or you're already back, don't worry, you're still
in the right conference room.
There are things you can do to help yourself at this moment.
And this episode is worth your time.
Because even though this is a really big deal in the life of a person who's returning
to work after having a baby, not many employers in America offer tools or training to help.
On this episode of LifeKit, how to be a worker, a parent, and a person all at once.
Get a reporter and working parent anti-taggle talks with experts about mom guilt, dad brain,
and how we can step into this new expanded identity.
Amy says you don't have to choose just one hat or the other, parent or employee.
When done well and supported well, they can really enhance each other.
You know, if you can raise a child, you can build a company.
And we've spent so much time separating these two and saying, we don't talk about that.
That's personal.
It's just wrong, and it's overdue for a change.
That's coming up after the break.
Okay, team, gather up.
Thanks again for joining this session of The New Working You.
Did everyone grab some coffee?
A snack?
Great.
Our first order of business, time keeping best practices.
Now, I hear you're all looking to work the 50/50 work-life balance shift, is that right?
Well, I don't know, we'll take it up with management.
Take away one.
Find how work can work better for you.
Your workplace will often only be as flexible as you ask them to be.
When Amy got pregnant, she was teaching about work-life balance.
She was a doctoral student, studying organizational psychology at Columbia University.
So, she thought, if anyone would be well-equipped for the transition from worker to working parent,
it would be her.
Then, she had an unplanned C-section and trouble breastfeeding and postpartum depression
that turned into postpartum psychosis.
At three weeks postpartum, when she had originally planned to return to work, she found herself
unable to even lift her child.
Not alone, imagine going back to work.
I just was like, "How can we be overlooking this?
What is happening here?"
There's no language, there's no structure, there's no procedure, like what have we done?
How have we missed this?
Now she works to close that gap for other new parents.
So, if you're listening to this because you have to go back to work on Monday and you
are absolutely dreading it, she gets it.
And she says, "Totally understandable."
But there's something that people often miss about the dynamic of coming back from paid
leave, especially.
They don't want you to leave, they don't want to miss your contribution to the organization.
If you're a salaried worker, they want you back, they want you happy, they want you engaged
and supported and loving your work.
She says, "Too often, returning parents just assume their jobs don't have any flexibility."
And so they don't ask.
Just because it's never been done or you don't think it can be done, don't let that stop
you.
Think about your ideal return, the first day, week, month.
What kind of planning could help you breathe just a little easier on that first day back?
One simple idea I thought was genius.
Return on a Wednesday or a Thursday, or your mid-work week equivalent.
For office workers at least, those first few days back can often be bogged down by catching
up, admin, troubleshooting.
So that gives you time to quietly warm up, clear your inbox, and then come back full swing
the following Monday.
One parent wanted to come back twice a week for three weeks, and then three days a week
for two weeks, and then four days a week for three more weeks, and then full time.
She phased her way back in because that was the transition she needed.
Another idea on that front?
If you can swing it, starting childcare a few days or even a week early, even if just
for a few hours so that you don't have to deal with a shock of both going back to work
and passing off your precious little one at the same time.
Or maybe just a small time shift would make a world of difference.
Amy told me about one mom she worked with who nervously asked her boss to end her day
at five instead of five thirty, because it could save her over an hour in commute traffic.
Her boss agreed to the change, but didn't just stop there, but company had an open floor
plan.
At five o'clock, he stood up, called over to this new mom, and said, "Time to go and walked
out with her."
What that said to the whole team was, "Sally ends at five.
I end at five with her."
He was actively creating a culture of support for new parents.
All this to say, there are a lot of ways to stretch and shift a work schedule if you can
get a little creative.
I know it's not always that easy to make a change.
But in case you have any doubt, it is in an employer's best interest to work with you.
Study show, family friendly business practices, pay off as much for workplaces as they do
for working parents.
Alright, next up, let's learn about your new workstation.
I'm sure you've heard her on the water cooler.
The internal working parent operating system is a tad more complicated than your old program.
Take away too.
Warning, dueling identities can cause internal system overload.
There's no right way to feel about your return, so be easy on yourself as you reboot.
So your routine is abended.
Your sleep is. Let's just not talk about it.
You've got 500 new worries on your brain at any given moment.
Your body might be aching, leaking, and stretching in lots of new ways.
And also, you experience new heights and depths of joy every single day.
Your life feels infinitely more purposeful.
In parenting, there's so much more than one thing can be true at the same time.
This is a relationship coach and dad of two Aaron Steinberg.
You might recognize him from our episode on how to babyproof your romantic relationship.
If not, please do add that one to your cue right after this.
He says, "One of the hardest parts about this time is learning to reconcile the person
you are now and that person that took your employee badge photo."
All of a sudden, there's this exploded new identity, which is so vast and so different,
I think, than anything that we've had before.
And so already, we're like a little mushy, you know, we've become like a multi-exposed
photo, where we're not really sure who we are anymore.
Of course, you're not the same person that last clocked out, but also you still kind of
want to be while simultaneously doing nothing else but watching that kid grow.
Honestly, for me, that first day back was so confusing.
I just all outsobbed until my first morning meeting.
You don't feel like you're doing a good job parenting, and you also don't feel like
you're doing a good job at your job.
And so you just feel like you're kind of failing all around.
And like half a good job each does not equal one.
It's like you get smaller, feeling, you know?
Another common first day sentiment.
Relief.
Yeah, only if you might have taken a break from paid employment, but parenting full-time
is work.
Let no one say otherwise.
Parenting is just way more over-simulating and way more difficult than our job.
Your freedom is very limited about the things that you can do, the ways you can take care
of yourself.
There's no best or boilerplate way to feel.
So do yourself a favor, impact some extra.
your self-compassion alongside your sandwich today.
Well, yeah, I know you wanna give everyone a hundred percent,
but you're only one person with a finite amount of energy.
- Maybe it's a byproduct of the modern world.
I don't know.
It's all trade-offs.
- If you're on the early shift tomorrow,
should you really take all the night feedings tonight, too?
Does the bathroom need to be spotless
more than your kid needs cuddles, dad?
Mom, will the company stop running
if you let the emails wait until morning?
- I always say to myself, none of this matters.
- Reshma Sajani is a lot of things.
A lawyer, an author, an activist,
a founder of two major nonprofits
working towards gender equality,
and a working mom of two on top of all of that.
Like at the end of the day, what matters is my family,
is my friends, is like my spiritual life.
And I think that you have to be able to evaluate,
what do I really need to get done?
And what is the sense of like I'm doing this
because I have to prove that I have to be productive?
- Working parenthood is full of hard choices,
sacrifices, or both simultaneously.
To say nothing of the brain fog,
the spit up on your best work shirts,
the spats with your spouse, the late nights,
the learning curves, the general,
and pervasive year, you're getting it all wrong.
So this could be a useful barometer
to cut through some of the chaos.
What's a real need versus just a gold star on your record?
How much pressure is self-imposed?
And how much is out of your control?
Rushma says it's crucial to remember
that for a lot of Americans, being a parent
is a uniquely difficult endeavor.
- We're the only industrialized nation
that doesn't have paid leave.
One and four women go back to work two weeks
after having a baby.
- No federal paid leave, that is.
- According to recent data from Lending Tree,
childcare for two kids exceeds monthly rent
in most metro areas in the US.
And over half of parents have gone into debt
to pay for child-related expenses.
- Which means, you know, the car breaks down
if their partner has a health scare,
like they are one crisis away from financial ruin.
- That's part of why Rushma founded moms first.
An organization quote, "Fighting for America's moms
and policies like affordable childcare and paid leave."
Because in many, many other countries,
it is just not a thing to have to choose
between your health, financial stability,
or your child's safety.
So the next time you feel overcome by guilt,
when you have to drop off your little one a daycare,
or you drop the ball at work
because the baby didn't sleep or got sick, remember.
You're not struggling simply
because you're not trying hard enough.
Not because we need more confidence,
not because we have to color code or calendar.
We don't have the structural support
in order to both be a mother
and actually participate in the workforce.
And dads need help in the serena too.
- Sometimes it's correct to feel sad.
I haven't been with my child for five nights in a row,
and I'm sure they miss me,
and I do feel guilty about that,
and I wish that weren't the case.
The answer isn't necessarily feel no guilt.
It's like just allow yourself to feel that
without then adding on to it.
- And it's important to note on this front.
It's okay and very common to not feel okay.
One in five new moms and one in 10 new dads
will experience a perinatal mood or anxiety disorder,
like OCD, postpartum depression, or psychosis.
These numbers are based on biological parentage, just FYI,
post-option rates are more variable.
But in any case, there's a lot of help out there
right away available.
If you're in need of emotional support quickly,
you can call or text 988,
that's the suicide and crisis lifeline.
You can find a free perinatal mental health screening
through the Center for Parental Leave Leadership website,
and you can find a lot of other great resources
through postpartum support international.
I also wanna mention that if you're a single parent,
our expert said that last bit seeking and accepting help
is especially important.
And might feel especially hard to do.
- You have to be graceful with yourself and say,
when I weigh all the things of what my family unit needs,
you know, I'm doing the best that I can,
noticing places in which you might be attached
to not being a burden or not being seen as weak.
And, you know, look deeper into what's available to you
in terms of resources.
- Support groups like parents without partners
or single parent advocate are great places to start.
You can also look online for program-specific to your area.
The single parent project, for example, based in Utah,
offers grants for some parents
who don't qualify for traditional government assistance.
Let's be clear though.
No matter your career or relationship status,
if you're a working parent, you're likely feeling pressed
for resources.
So often, too often, probably.
My days and nights can feel like an unending marathon
of just getting things done.
And yet, somehow, I still go to bed feeling like
five tasks behind.
Can you relate?
Let's have a one-on-one about it after the break.
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Next up, the all-important safety segment.
Mental and emotional safety, that is.
Burnout, exceeded bandwidth, are super common around here.
So let's talk about what you can do
to set yourself up for success.
Take away three.
Install emotional search protection at home and the office.
Know your limits, speak up, take breaks.
One of the best tools you have in your toolbox
for making your life easier during this turbulent period
were move ambiguity.
- Make the things that you think are obvious,
obvious anyway.
Like, a lot of times we get frustrated
when we see our caregiver doing something
and we think like, why would they ever do that?
That's so dumb.
But, you know, everyone's different.
This role can and should apply
with any of your relationships.
I mean, honestly, we should never assume people
can read our minds, but at this tender moment in life,
especially when you've got too much on your plate
and you're going 100 miles a minute every day of the week,
girl, are you sure you can even read your own mind?
Be specific.
Double check.
Ask follow-up questions.
Write out your directions,
then have your partner proofread them.
Better to measure twice and cut once,
then have no one to pick up the baby at daycare.
This might feel tiresome,
but it works in both directions.
Like, Aaron and his wife, for example,
have this great exercise they do at the dinner table.
- And people really make fun of us for this,
but I think it's really smart.
We tell the other person what we wanna be appreciated for.
I say, here's what I did today that you did not see
that I wanna be appreciated for and the kids see that.
And so, you know, you kinda create a culture of gratitude
and appreciation, and it goes really quickly
if you don't have to guess.
- Another essential, according to Aaron,
finding ways to reset after a hard day at work
or a hard stretch with a little one.
And that doesn't have to be some big vacation.
- Sure, that would be nice.
I would love to give you that,
but actually you can reconnect with yourself in 10 minutes.
- Like, one of Aaron's reset activities
is just walking and listening to podcasts.
That listening often gets his creative juices flowing
and helps him think up new content and book ideas.
Super duper simple, right?
It works for him for two reasons.
- One, I have a, like, part of my sense of self
that's all about feeling free,
and that's very inhibited in being a working parent, right?
So when I'm just out in the fresh air
and I'm no one's attached to me,
I feel free in that moment.
I can just somehow, it just works.
- The other part, sparks his creativity
in a field that's exciting to him.
If you don't already have a favorite or exact right thing,
- Think about like, what are my values?
What do I admire in other people?
- He says we all have personal qualities
that we can expand out into reset buttons.
For example, maybe you crave novelty.
So you just need to take the little one
to a brand new park on the other side of town.
Change your walking route.
Do you need to feel powerful?
When was the last time you broke out those weights
in the back of the closet?
These examples might not sound all that exciting,
but that's kind of the point.
Well, it's not gonna work unless I write a new book.
I'm not gonna feel like myself.
And it's like, no, actually all I need to do
is think of an idea for a book and I feel like myself.
- Which brings us to the final module
of our training session, performance reviews.
Take away four.
Parenting changes your thinking and the goal posts.
Lower the bar and give yourself your family
and your career, room to grow and change.
- I think my best advice to parents
is lower your standards.
Don't expect that you're gonna be amazing
at everything.
- Derby Saxby is a brain researcher,
professor of psychology at the University of Southern California
and a mom to two teenagers.
Her research combines neuroscience and psychology
to understand how close connections shape health
and well-being.
And her upcoming book, Dad Brain,
is all about the science of fatherhood.
She says, no matter who you are
or how you come to assume the role,
man or woman, pregnancy, adoption, fostering,
parenting is hugely transformational
for both the brain and the body.
I know that's not a big surprise, but she says we have a bad habit of celebrating this speedy
bounce back after baby narrative. You know, pregnancy weight just melts away, you bond with your
baby without a single mood swing and get right back to work without losing a beat, your word recall,
or your hair. In reality, Darby says it can take a long time to fully adjust a parenthood.
Much longer than you might expect, or be giving yourself license for.
There's evidence that we don't really bounce back, even if we ever bounce back until two years
or maybe more. And since many people have more than one kid, that period of remodeling and
adjustment can actually last even longer than those two years. So when you can try to like good,
be good enough. There are no raises for picture perfect baby food, no valedictorian and daddy
and me classes or trophies for late night multitasking, which is not a real thing, just FYI.
You know, respecting that this is a transformational time. So, you know, even if you don't get a lot of
leave or any leave being patient with yourself and recognizing that you may not be 100% for a while.
Another idea? Work to reframe these changes, not as flaws or failures, but as what they are.
Adaptations. Your body rewiring itself to meet the demands of this awesome wild new gig.
I like to say great parents are made not born. Once that little one enters your life,
your hormone level shift and change, you have increased emotional sensitivity,
you lose gray matter in parts of your brain. And listen, I know your brain getting smaller on its face.
Yeah, it doesn't sound great, but here's why.
The brain is starting to work more efficiently. You're having to figure out what this little
creature that can't talk to you needs and how to suit them. You're really using your social brain
and you're using your empathetic brain, and we're developing stronger, faster connections
when we become new parents. And that growth can serve you in all arenas.
Darby talked to one dad for her book, for example, who told me that taking time off to be a
dad made him way better at work. He said it really improved his ability to manage employees.
So there are a lot of transferable skills as we're developing that empathy and that patience
when working with our own young kids that can really translate into making us
better, more effective workers as well. And then of course, there's the purely logistical side
parenting. A lot of parents report that having kids because it introduces all these new complexities
can make them more disciplined and better at just getting things done.
Altogether, these changes are a gift that keeps on giving. Studies have shown that parenting is
neuroprotective later in life, meaning the constant cognitive workout that a parenthood has a
sort of anti-aging effect on your brain. And the more kids you have, the stronger and better connected
your brain seems to be. So your Saturday nights are a different kind of wild now. So maybe you're
not all that interested in moving up the corporate letter after all. What might look or feel like a
loss at first could also be a lovely new chapter in the making. We can feel hard or scary or
overwhelming in the moment. Might look back on with tenderness and gratitude. For now,
while you're still in the thick of it, Darby's parting words of wisdom as both a parent researcher
and a parent herself find that community because no one is supposed to do this alone.
So joining organizations, clubs, taking advantage of places to connect, like go into the playground
with your baby and striking up a conversation, you know, not all of this is easy, but I think the more
that we seek out support and we lean on people in our lives, the easier it can be to get through those
first few years of early parenthood. And the easier it is to parent, the easier it is to make working
parenthood work for you. All right team, let's circle back on today's presentation and then we'll
get you out of here. Take away one. Flexibility is the name of the working parent game.
There are lots of different ways to peel your workplace potato, but you're gonna have to ask for it.
Take away two. Taking on two new jobs with two new identities tends to cause a whole lot of feelings.
Write yourself some grace, will you? Take away three. Be realistic about how much time and energy
you have to work with from day to day. Know your limits, ask for what you need and build in breaks
and buffers where you can. And finally, take away four. Parenting changes your mind. Let it,
love it, lower your bar to success, and find community to help you weather the season of life.
That was LifeKit Reporter Andy Tagle. This episode of LifeKit was produced by Margaret Serino.
Our digital editor is Malika Garib. Our visuals editor is CJ Ricollon. Megan Kane is our
senior supervising editor and Beth Donovan is our executive producer. Our production team also
includes Claremory Schneider, Sylvie Douglas, and Mika Ellison. Engineering support comes from
Damian Herring, fact-checking by Tyler Jones. I'm Mariel Segarra. Thanks for listening.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Preparing for parental leave involves planning a realistic return schedule, including specific return dates and work arrangements.
Employers value returning parents and often benefit from flexible work arrangements, making it in their interest to support transitions.
Working parents face internal identity conflicts, emotional overwhelm, and exhaustion, requiring self-compassion and mental flexibility.
Parenting is a transformative experience that reshapes the brain and body, leading to increased empathy, adaptability, and emotional sensitivity.
Structural support like paid leave and affordable childcare is lacking in the U.S., contributing to guilt, financial strain, and mental health challenges.
Parenting changes career performance expectations—success should be redefined as “good enough” rather than perfection.
Simple daily routines like walks, gratitude checks, or creative resets can help parents recover emotionally and mentally.
Parenting is a long-term developmental process, not a short-term adjustment, and its benefits extend to both personal and professional life.
Summary:
This episode of LifeKit addresses the complex transition of working parents, emphasizing that returning to work after childbirth is not just a logistical shift but a profound transformation of identity, mental health, and daily functioning. The host, Mariel, introduces Amy Beakum, a parenting and workplace expert, who stresses that planning a return to work—before even leaving—helps reduce anxiety and sets realistic expectations. Flexibility is key: parents should ask for adjustments like mid-week returns, early childcare, or shorter workdays to ease the transition.
The show highlights the emotional toll of dual roles, noting that many parents experience identity confusion, guilt, and burnout. Experts like Aaron Steinberg and Derby Saxby explain that parenting reshapes the brain, enhancing empathy and emotional awareness, though recovery can take years. —no federal paid leave, high childcare costs, and financial instability—making it harder for parents to balance work and family.
The episode also promotes self-compassion, emotional safety, and community as essential tools. Resources such as 988 for mental health crises, postpartum support, and parenting groups are recommended. Ultimately, the message is that parenting is a lifelong, evolving process, not a temporary phase, and that success lies in adaptability, self-awareness, and support—not perfection.
FAQs
Start planning your return before you leave by deciding when you’ll return and what your schedule might look like. Ask your employer for a brief check-in to stay informed about workplace changes.
Yes, it's very common. Parenting and work roles can create internal conflict, leading to feelings of failure, confusion, or identity shift. Be kind to yourself during this transition.
Yes, you can ask for flexibility—like starting your return on a Wednesday or adjusting your end time. Employers often support this because it benefits both the employee and the workplace culture.
Set realistic goals, recognize your limits, and take breaks. Prioritize what truly matters—your family, mental health, and self-care—over perfection or constant productivity.
Yes, parenting changes your brain’s structure and function. You may experience increased empathy and emotional sensitivity, which can improve your work performance in areas like teamwork and leadership.
You can access free perinatal mental health screenings through the Center for Parental Leave Leadership or Postpartum Support International. For urgent help, call or text 988, the suicide and crisis lifeline.
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