How I Show Up For You w/ Jason Bolden

Hey, everyone. I'm Morgan Stewart, and welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show. I'm going to be talking about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning, I will be giving my opinions on everything, and those opinions are subject to change, okay? Now, let's get into it. Okay, first of all, I really hope we make it through today's episode. I don't know. We have a plan, but it's going to go rogue, you guys. I am so fucking excited because one of my closest, nearest, and dearest friends and favorite people of all time, Jason Bolden. Welcome! I feel like this is going to go off from our DMs to text thread. Now everybody gets to. Get to hear everything? I feel exposed. First of all, should we talk about what our name of our group chat is? Wait, so I didn't know we were going to go there, but let's go. Let's go. Well, we changed it. We just changed it. Okay, so it was. I also want to preface, I do obviously have a piece of paper in front of me. There's so many questions I have to answer. I don't know if I can answer all of them. I don't know if I can answer all of the questions that I have for Jason, because there's so many things about Jason I don't know. I don't know the history of you, and he said before we started, bitch, I don't give a shit about that, but I need to know some things. Okay, group chat, let's start there. Okay, do you want to start with the first name or the existing name? The first name. Okay, the first name was. And how did it come about? Well, our kids were pretty much at the same school. They're at the same school, different campuses. Different campuses, which was a setup, because I only went there because you were like, you gotta go! I was there, cut to the, like, about that, separation. Separation. Segregation. Yes. They were giving full segregation. Anyway, whatever. They were not. They were not. They were not. But this is me and Morgan's banter. Yes, okay. But anyway, so we get there, whatever, and I go to, I don't remember, was it orientation? It was a birthday party. A birthday party. A few months into the year. Yes, and I'm super, super relatable and just want to be, like, one with the people. I'm about that life. You are. So. That's who you are. I also, I like, first thing, like, what can I can connect on? And not to be superficial, but I was like, a shoe, a bag, a ring, or something. Something. Something. So I text Morgan and Jordan and my husband, and I go, not a bag, not a shoe, not a ring. Not a ring, not a bag. Not a bag. So that became the first one. And then recently, I don't know what happened, but you changed it. I changed it. So it was not a ring, not a bag, which basically was the fact that there was not one bitch at that birthday party that you could connect with. And I really appreciate, it's not even to be superficial, but one. No, they were like. They were not turning it. No, but. We need common ground. Like, what is something you can find in another person that you can relate to? Because I can't trust my kid right now with the kids he picks. Like, what? No. Hard pass. No, you. Hard pass. Hard pass, right? That's really, we have to get into, like, when your kids pick their friends. Hard. And sometimes they pick friends that don't really love them. It's really scary. And then you have to deal with those parents. And then recently, I, something, you said something, and I was like, oh, what was it? It was, hold on, I got to pull it up, because it was so, it's like, it's something important, but what is important? It's important to have. That's the group chat name. But why did that happen? I don't know, but it was, it had to be something that happened maybe around. Something you needed, something around Dior. Jason and I just went to the Dior show last week. Yes. And then the crazy thing about that is, and what people don't really know, is how much I love Jordan. And how Jordan is literally, she gets a little annoyed because. I didn't know how early this was going to come up. But I love Jordan the way that I love a custom croc pochette with the perfect stamp. Like, Jordan is just like, you know, and Jordan is like such like, when you meet him, he's very like alpha, and he's like, I'm Jordan. But then at the same time, I'm like, oh, you kiki. Yeah. Like, Jordan kiki's down. So it's like that on top. So it's like our group chat with my husband and like, and Jordan and Morgan. And so we get to talk about something. And it's actually really funny because sometimes Jordan clocks it quicker. He will clock it. He will clock it. I think also with Jordan, I'm trying to think, do you remember the first time you met Jordan? Valentino. We're at a dinner. Not Valentino. We're at a Valentino dinner. Okay, so we went. Pierpolo pink, baby. Pierpolo pink, which I was talking about this morning randomly, completely separately. Somebody, a guy who did my hair this morning was like, I loved that pink Valentino. By the way, I'm in pink Valentino shoes today. Cute, right? Wait, the craziest thing is, I just was texting with Pierpolo because the girl who's the head of PR, I sent her this huge pink look that I did for Alicia Keys for Grammys one year. And it was Pierpolo pink. How crazy is that? And weirder to add to the energy of this fashion chat so early on, which I'm remembering when we did TV together, why it was so fucking good. I bought, you know, the Manolo and Balenciaga shoe collab. Okay, so what color do you think I got? There was yellow, black, green. Okay, I didn't get green. I got yellow. No, no, no. I'm just saying I used the green on Ayesha Curry at the after party for her for the Met. But you should, you should just get all of them. I was going to get both. But can I tell you what I'm going through right now? I'm going through a shopping hiatus, which we talked about. I cannot keep, because what's happening is I'm buying the same. Wait, are those pants leather? They're leather. Are they not so chic? You've heard. Am I giving lemon lion shirt? She is turning it. Right? The color's working today. Okay, I also just want to be very honest, direct to camera. I had a panic disorder the last three years and autoimmune postpartum thyroiditis. I was so bloated, floated and so big. I was like 10 pounds of water weight. The only friend, the only friend who said to me, well, remember when you were bloated, was Jason. Girl. And I needed it. Girl. No. Safety first. Safety. Safety first. I was not going to let you go down like that, sis. Can I tell you something? I went to Jason's son, Arrow's birthday last May. He is a Gemini like me. He's the 23rd exact. What's his exact? 24. 24. Okay. So I'm 22. I was so brunette and so fat. It was, it was dark, dark. It was really dark. And what the best part about it was, is you were taking Ro to the bathroom and in our house, the powder room in our house. And you're like down on the ground. And like, I was like looking at how bad the wallpaper was in that powder room. It was diabolical. It was giving that bad girl. It was not bad. It was giving Nancy Reagan right before like all the, it was just bad. And I was looking down and I was like, that is so bad. And I was like, that is not my friend. That is not, I know. And it was interesting. I know. But let me tell you something. I got it back. Commitment. Commitment. Dedication. Mm-hmm. You have. Can I tell you what it is? Because no, you can't be that size that you were last summer in that, in that trouser. No, no, no. We're back. But you know what I think? She turns it. Truly what happened was I, I, I calmed down. The nervous system cannot be crazy. That's, that's what happened. What did you do? I'm not joking. I literally stopped being crazy. Oh. I was so stressed out. I had such a pain. I had such a panic that I was over, I was eating every 10 minutes because I was feeling not good. So we're back. You are back, baby. We're back. Okay, let's talk about. Sorry, guys. No, we're, okay, yeah. This is going to go all over the place. It's a health show. I don't know. I want to talk about what year did we meet? Do you have any, I have no concept of time. And I just cannot remember the first time we met. But it was, we met because we were working at E. We were doing the. It was a red carpet cap, a recap or something like that. It was a post-show. But then weren't we live? I think it was live because I think I had to come to you guys after I had just dressed people. But I don't know if it was. It was you, me. I remember one time. So it was you, me. Were we in New York together too? We did New York. Okay, you, me, Nina Parker. And then there was one other guy. And I, for the life of me, was it the wrestler? Brendan, was that his name? A wrestler? What did you just say? He was a former wrestler. Yes, but I think that was New York. That was the New York one. The L.A. one was when we first met. But L.A. was you. Was that the first time we met? So did we only do that together two times? No, we did it a couple of times. But L.A. was the first time. And now I'm seeing it because I actually remember what I was wearing. And that was kind of the connect. Okay, what were you wearing? I was wearing Hermes. Remember I had an Hermes. I was in a. This is New York you're talking about. This was L.A. And then you came and you were probably in a Alexander like Vautier or something like that. Dye. Yeah. But wait, can we all. I was like, girl. Wait. And all you would just be like is this was not me. Wait. This was. No, not even close. But by the way. Girl. Wait, now I'm remembering. Okay, we were in New York together. That was the first time we met. Yes. Maybe, okay. Yes, because John was with me. And you said a joke to me and John that we repeated, I think, for two years. It was the funniest fucking line. And I. Something like, something about your man. Like he, something. It was crying laugh out loud. That's crazy. Then we did L.A. L.A. was after. After the Emmys. Right. Because I remember screaming Tracee Ellis Ross's name as she was walking by. I was like, Trace. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. And we basically just talked shit about how everyone was so poorly dressed. Yeah, it was. It was really bad. And then we just like we connected on that particular moment. We talked. I think after that, we even chatted and then we had to go again. And then we started doing it so often that they decided to separate us because we couldn't sit next to each other because we would literally just talk to each other the whole time. It became a problem. And they would just be like in my ear. They'd be like, can you stop talking to Morgan? Can you stop directing your questions to Morgan? Oh, my God. I'm like, well, I don't know what else to say because she got on Manolo's. And like, I'm like, girl, what? What are we supposed to talk about? You know, my pet peeve is people who have an opinion who ain't never experienced it. Girl, you cannot tell me something's good or something bad if you've never sat at the show. A hundred percent. You cannot tell me something's good or bad if you don't own any of it. It's true. You can't like keep it to yourself. And that was also before the time of like, it's giving, it's giving. Like, that's all anybody fucking says. Now, it's giving this. It's giving you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's giving, girl, you need a reference and you don't know the reference. You don't know the reference. And also, why are we not—I really do think about it because I get messages all the time, like, I don't necessarily want to be doing that job, but there's no better people for that job. No, I literally sit back and I just listen to people talk about those fashion shows, and they're like, and I would have done a different earring. Yeah. And I'm like, girl— You don't know anything. Sis, she has a contract. Yeah. She has to wear that painful earring. That's also— Kai Yatek. Let's also talk—okay, I want to— Sorry, we just—I don't even know what—this is the Morgan Stewart show, so we get to do whatever we want. We get to do whatever the fuck we want, but— Girl, work. I want to just touch on this one more time. We met at E! We did those shows together. Yeah. But then what—when did we, like—I don't remember a time before you, but I don't know how we got to this level of consistency. I don't remember either. And sort of— Like, a real friendship that, like, exists in our lives. When was it? Oh, I do remember. When was it? And this is why—this is why I say that I fuck with you so strong and so hard. It was like everything in the world was shifting, and everybody was crazy, and all these crazy things were happening. And I remember you checked in on me and my family. Did I? You did. Guys, listen up. Okay, tell the story, because I don't remember these things. Yeah, because you—I mean, you probably drank this. Yeah, by the way. By the way. That memory is in—girl, a glass of tequila. But you checked in, and I think it was maybe during COVID or something like that. And you checked in, and you was like, I just—I want to check in, just make sure everything's good, and bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. And I was like, okay. And, like, you know, and then after that, we just, like, we really—it just felt consistent. It felt authentic. It didn't feel like—it didn't feel like we just connected because we both, you know, share salespersons at a store. You know what I mean? I really—I do. As much as Jason and I, I think we talk shit, we make fun, we have, like, a laugh about it because we both really know, like, what's going on. But there is a genuine friendship, a genuine connection about things beyond fashion. Oh, my gosh. About—I mean, I went through something with a friend of mine not that long ago, which we won't go into the details about. And Jason was with me in Paris, and I was breaking down pretty hard. And he—I think that was the first time that—I mean, you and I have—you've given me a lot of time. You've given me advice about a million things. But that was, like, you explained it so clearly. And I'm somebody that, like, knows things. You're the same way. Like, you know something to be true, and you know how things—you don't, like, lose your way very often. But sometimes you need somebody else to, like, step up and fill that for you. And post that lunch, I was like, we are— You were shook. I was shook. You were really, really shook. Yeah. And we were at your favorite restaurant, which is— He's putting it on me. He fucking loves to go there. Girl, I hate that place. No. Between you and Jordan—Jordan—let's go to the text, right? Jordan's like, we're living. I'm like, oh, if I see another bitch in a brand new Hermes bag, her first bag, like, I am exhausted with these hoes. But anyway, cut to, we were sitting there, and I don't know where I was coming from, from a fitting or something, but— Chanel. Oh, I was coming from Chanel shit. Chanel, before Mathieu debuted, it was with Nicole, and you had— Oh, I had already— You had, like, a corner of a photo of the Chanel Charvet shirt. And I was like, what in the fuck are you talking about? Because that's what Nick was wearing, Nicole was wearing. Yeah. I was like— I was like— I was like, what in the fuck are you talking about? I was like, what do you mean? I was like, you have no idea. This is about to turn you out. Turn my fucking brain. Yes. It's about to turn you out. Yes. But we sat across from that—we sat across from each other, and Jordan was there in Jordan's natural state of just kind of being like, I'm going to let these two have their bicker session and their moment. And he just, like—it was one of those moments where he was just like— Take the floor. Jason, I need for you to say something, because it's like, I'm saying these things, and it's not hitting. Yeah. And then—but the sad part about it is, is, like, when you truly love someone and fuck with someone and, like, you know, you don't want to see them go through something, you were going through it. I was really going through it. And I'll get into that later. You were going through it during the Chanel—like, girl, we were there to see Chanel. There was nothing that was going to outdo that. But the fact that that was overshining it, you couldn't, like, every five seconds, you would put your drink down, you would put the pasta down, and you were like—but you would bring it up. And I'm like, sis, you got to let it go. But when we had that conversation, and it's just like, the reality is, people don't know how to be friends. Any more? Or do you think in general? I just think in general. I grew up knowing that my parents would always say to me, sometimes when people show up this way, it's because they truly want to be your friend, they just don't know how. Because in a lot of cases, people try to show up and they think they need to razzle-dazzle you, for example. Yeah. But all you're looking for is honesty. A hundred percent. You know, and that's a part of what I think people don't understand about you. Yeah. And I think that's—for me, that's where my closeness comes in. It comes with you. Because a lot of people don't know. It's like, I think Morgan had a lot to do with Tupac and Biggie. Because the stuff that she knows is crazy. I'm like, how do you know all this Biggie and Tupac stuff? It is the craziest thing about her. But, you know— Oh my God, it's so true. It is so deep. Like, going to pass, like, all the whatever stuff. I think it's the honesty that people are afraid to live for themselves. So they can't show up to you in honesty because they're not doing it for themselves. And in that particular moment, I'm like, you're showing up. You're honest. This person decides that it's a takedown because I don't want to expose myself because then everybody will find out I'm a fucking fraud and I'm a liar. It's—honestly, it's—I think relationships for me, as somebody who's been pretty social and outgoing my whole life, relationships for me at this stage are very difficult. People are so weird. I also don't know if you feel this because you are at the top— you are at the top of what you do, right? Like, you have worked your way to a position where you are addressing the top 50 people in our entire industry. I appreciate that. It's the truth. It's a fact. It's a fact. Like, but think about—think about and pause on that for a second. You started, which we're going to get into. I know you don't want to, but we're going to. You are literally addressing people, like, that create our zeitgeist that are the mold of what people look to across everything, across entertainment, brands, money. I mean, the business that you are in and the people— the people you're representing, it doesn't get more top than that. And I don't think you only want to do top people. No, no, no, I get it. But if you are doing them, they're going to that level. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, like— That's what's happening. That's what I enjoy. I love the underdog and flipping the underdog and making it into someone that people can resonate with and become a reference. A hundred percent. I mean, Nicole Kidman, but my point is, is, like, when you're at that level, people start treating you that, like, you're not a real person that doesn't deserve potentially real respect or real relationships or don't think that you're seeking that. And I think I'm in a similar position where, like, people get so taken by all the different stuff, and I'm like, I really just need you to want to be my friend and vice versa. You know what I can't stand? I can't stand an inconsistent bitch. That kind of bitch fucking grinds my gears. It's like a bad colorist. It is a bad— You know what I mean, bitch? It's like— Remember that? That also— Girl, that was problematic. But you know what I mean? It's like, sis, I came here because you set me up real good. I got the man. I got the ring. Now he's like, let me introduce you to these people, and you got a stunt on this bitch that you didn't like. Like, since high school and college. 100%. And now your color don't match. No, I— The inconsistency. I can't do it. You can't do it. This is— I'm experiencing this so much in my life, where I will be open. If a girl wants to be my friend, I am, like, literally internally seven years old. I want to be friends with you. I'm open. I'm wide open. But you definitely are a girl's girl. I'm a girl's girl. I ran into somebody at Dior last week, and we won't say her name because I don't want to say it in case she doesn't want me to. She said to me, you have to stop wearing your heart on your sleeve so much. You can't be so open for people all the time. I've met this girl twice, and she had the most profound advice for me. And what I do is, I'm open with everybody immediately. And the second they don't reciprocate, or they get what they need from me, meaning they have access to me, or they get to clock whatever they need to clock, or they get to, like, measure me up in their head, and then all of a sudden, they're nowhere on Instagram. They're no one. But what's that with you, then? Why do you feel like you need to, like, give everyone your all? Why is that? Because I think it goes back to what you were saying about honesty. I don't— I don't want to start on a fake note. I want to start on the most authentic place. And if we're not a match, we're not a match. But then my feelings get hurt, because I'm like, well, I was so open to you, so I do think I need to find a balance of being guarded. I have no idea. I think you could just— I mean, like, you're really good at small talk. Like, I'm not like— Yeah, you're not. I'm not doing all that. I'm not doing any of that. I'm not talking to you, girl. I don't care. Like, I really do not care. Like, I just— I don't. But the problem with that is, is because I save so much of my care, I don't care for people that I actually truly care about. Now, I'm not saying that I'm like, if I'm going to get a coffee and I open the door, I'm just going to close the door. No, I'm going to hold the door. Like, I'll do that. But most of my stuff is pretty surface, because what is consistent about me is how I show up for you. That's the title of the episode. Thank you. No, it's— And I think also getting older, too. Like, you have to save— Girl, you keep saying that getting older shit. That's for you, sis. Why don't cry? I know, by the way. Girl, that's for you, sis. White's cracking in half, everybody. Girl, have you seen? I got fresh Botox yesterday. Thank you. Catch me post-Brella. Thank you. But I do think as time goes on, let's put it that way, it does— I forgot my point. What the fuck was I saying? I think it does get to a point where you are able to— You need to save your energy for the things that matter. And our kids are— Well, you got two, girl. That's a whole— Are you going to have two? I don't know what the fuck you and Jordan was trying to do. Yeah. My husband wants to have a second one. He would have, like, a football team. Basketball team, soccer team, whatever. But, like, the way that my life is built, we're out of the trenches. Like— I travel way too much. And I travel four people first class. Girl, who is doing all of that? The first class. And the gas? The gas. Girl, what? Y'all crazy. I literally filled up my car last week. Car gas, not plane gas. I know you were going plane gas, but we're talking car gas. It was $180 fucking dollars. Girl, this is the ghetto. In Westwood. It is the ghetto. $180? When I tell you it is the setup, girl, I don't know what to. Have y'all seen Morgan's car? No, and a shirt is $2,000. Girl, that's the tax. The t-shirt. $2,000 is the tax. The shirt is $5,876 times. Girl, it's too much. But ultimately, the gist of that whole conversation before we got to. I hope we've said anything in English because I don't even know. We're just on the ride. Girl, we're just talking. But I think the truth is you got to find your people and not to be so. I know. You know? Woo-woo about it. But you got to find your people and it makes life so much easier because when we go. Like, for example, the Dior show. At the Dior show, I'm literally. This is consistent. And you and your man are so consistent. No matter where we're going, it's the day before. You going? Am I going to see you there? Where are we sitting? Da-da-da-da. Get in there. It's literally all you see. Me and Jordan are on the phone screaming, put your hand in the air. Like, that's the type of friendship. That you want. Yes, I'm there. I went backstage as you were before the show. I'm doing all these other things. The consistent part of me is the reality. Yes. The reality is I know if some shit pops off. Yep. I can be like. Hey. I need this. Like, we may have to run this. We may have to jump this bitch. Like, you know what I mean? 100%. Okay. Also, we have to talk about this straight to camera. And I did say this first episode. Jason is a Pisces. I have two Pisces in my life that I love. Do we know? And Morgan is the closest Gemini in my life. And then I just had a son who's a double Gemini Scorpio. That's so true. So, first of all, do you know your rising sign? I'm Pisces. Scorpio, Scorpio. I love Scorpio. I love. Do you know what your Venus is in? Mm-mm. But this is like, girl, you need a nose ring and a tattoo on your forehead. Because the way you be asking all these damn horoscope questions, girl, what are you talking about? By the way, I can't. It's done. The audience is like, shut the fuck up. We don't care about the goddamn. Girl, it's like that and a fucking smoothie. Like, what are we talking about, bitch? Okay, let's talk about Jason Bolden before Jason Bolden. Okay. I know. It has. St. Louis. Mm-hmm. Born and raised till what? What age? I left directly after high school. Okay. Because I had to get out of that place. You had to get. But you were skateboarding in St. Louis? I was a skateboarder. What are you talking about? I had a tongue piercing. Girl, are you dead? My mom told me my tongue piercing meant. She had to take. Because at that time, you were like, you had to take a parent to sign off. She was like, you know what this means? In front of everyone in this, like, piercing place. And it was called the St. Louis Loop. It was the coolest place, whatever. And she was like, you know what this means. And I'm like, no, girl, I just want a tongue piercing because it's like a thing. Right. It's like the vibe. I'm watching MTV Cancun Spring Break. These bitches are like. Uh-huh. So she was like, that means you eat sex. And I was like, what? Eat sex? Girl, she is nasty. That is. Hold up. What? In front of all these people. And I'm like, lady, I am like 17. So you could do it at 17. Okay. So anyway, did that. I was such a skateboarder. I was like. I can't believe you were a skateboarder. Babe, I was a skateboarder. I was also probably one of the only black people who got to stand front door at Abercrombie & Fitch. So I was living. You were doing it. I was giving the kids everything. Wait, were you out at this point? What age did you come out? No, but I was like, I was. I am super, super, super, super lucky. I'd never had any. Of that stuff. Any of that stuff. My family life, my friends. But I was also like the guy. I was like prom king. It's like homecoming. Most likely to be on the cover of GQ. I gagged the kids. But I also came through a whole different setup. Like, I was like. I was like. I was like. I went from like super kind of like punk, rocky kid. Then I went to like. But I always was. I was skateboarding throughout that point. I had like an eight ball. Wait, how good were you at skateboarding? I was pretty good. This is. This is blow. When I read that today, I said, what the fuck is this? But then my son just recently asked me for his birthday for a skateboard. And he's like, dad, can you still skateboard? I said, baby, let me tell you something about these knees. You can't do it. It's too risky. I can. Okay, wait. So. I'm in a row flat today, girl. I ain't got time. No. Girl, what? The references, though, I was like, what are you talking about skateboarding? Yeah, that. And then I just. I went into this whole other phase where like Neiman Marcus was my place. And I would just go and I would be in like all the things. But I would. Wait, wait, wait. We need to. No, no, we can't skip over. There's lots of things. St. Louis, skateboarding, tongue piercing, prom king, all the stuff. You apply to college directly from high school. Mm-hmm. I go straight. Yep, I go straight there. To North. No, not. Where's there? Where's there? Tell the people where there is. Well, I went to. I went to Northwestern. Okay. And then I said, I'm not into this. No, how long did you go to Northwestern? We've never. I was there for a bit, but I always knew that. Listen, you grow up in the Midwest and there's only a couple of things that people talk about. You're a doctor, you're an attorney, you're like a this, you're a that. Right. For me, fashion, the closest thing I thought all you could do in fashion was there was two things. You worked at a luxury store or you were a fashion designer. Got it. That was the only thing I knew, but I could tell you, I could reference a 1992 Yoji Yamamoto collection from front to top. I could see something and I'd be like, oh, you know what that is? That's Ossie Clark from the 70s. I could do it. My photographic memory, my short-term memory is so amazing. That's why medicine was pretty easy for somebody like me because it's repetition and then you memorize it, right? Well, we skipped over that because so you go to Northwestern just to be pre-med. Yeah. My goal was to be an OBGYN, but I realized I love shoes over vagina. Now, 100%. And it was like, it was a thing. I, now I think about it. I'm like, I kind of, I would have, I would, girl. You, I would have gone to you. You would have been right there. Right there. I would have been dressed. I would have made sure shit was put together. Listen, listen, listen. The office would be major, but like that was a thing, but it just, it never felt good. And. That is. But even, I just even remember when I went to, when I went there the first time, my parent, my mom gave me a credit card and she said, this credit card is strictly for this Jason. I blew the budget on the credit card on a Dolce & Gabbana denim, girl, dye, girl, what? It was a denim DNG duffel. And I thought it was going to be my backpack. Girl, the shoulder pain that I, that exists in me. No. It was a mess. But then, you know, so it was like, it became that. And then. What was it like telling your family? No, no, no. This is a real interview. I didn't. You dropped out and didn't tell them? I did my own thing. I enrolled into the Art Institute and I just, I started. I started doing that. But then I also, I, this sounds really bizarre. So when you, everybody comes here exactly who they are. And this is a very, very, very true thing. And you can identify this with. Are you saying from birth or are you saying from college? From birth. Birth. You can see it with, with your kids. Yeah. You can see it with you. A hundred percent. And God bless your brother. You could see the difference. We all come here. As who we are. Exactly who we are. Yes. Agreed. And it's five of us. I'm the middle. And I was just like, I was always a little. Grown or mature for my age. Like it was always that. So I left. And then I would just be in Chicago. This, the closest thing to New York. It was super metropolitan in that way. And cosmopolitan in the sense of like. You needed that. Yeah. Yeah. So I get there and I just. I just created this life for myself and I wouldn't go. Like most kids would like go home and do things. I would go home on Christmas because I need my gifts, girl. But like, what are you talking about, girl? I need. I need that and that cash. So, but everything else, I would spend the summers there. But then I became, this is really funny, but I became kind of like. This guy that everybody in Chicago knew. Okay. Or wanted to be friends with. And I would be the guy openly gay. The guy at the club with all of my closest friends who were like. Straight guys are like, like I was running that. I want to say I was running that bitch. You were running it. It was a whole thing to the point where like these like. Middle-aged white women would be like, oh my God, I want to, oh, like whatever. Like, and I'm like, girl, like I had it in a different way. But eventually once that kind of, that time in my life moved on, I, I literally. I don't even remember that point after that transition from that into. What about store? When, what's this? What point of the store? That's the part where I'm saying it gets a little foggy. But you had a vintage store. I had a vintage store in Soho, which was called. What year did you open that? Do you remember? No, no. No clue. Definitely drank that or smoked it. Yep. Yep. In those days. I smoked something on Sunday. It's taken me five days to remember. I can't see. I don't do that. It's too much for me. It's disgusting. I don't know why I did that. The problem is it's, it's also when people like to roll a blunt and then they lick it and do that stuff. That is nasty. This was from a machine. And when I tell you, I woke up the next morning and I was like, I can't. No, it's not for me. It's not for me. And it's never for me again. Okay. I like a liquid. Garment room. So I get to the garment room. And it's there. And it's really kind of. You opened the store by yourself. Me and a friend, my business partner at the time. So. And it's all vintage curated. All vintage curated. And we, it was really bizarre because we were like, we kind of coined. The vintage store. No, the pop-up. Oh. We coined it. And basically all we did was we were in this place, which is now the Louis Vuitton store in Soho. We were there and we were paying $1,500 a month. So we started that and it became a thing. And like, we were dressing so many people and like all these different. brands would come in and they would buy our clothes for design inspiration, so I would see stuff And then all of a sudden I would see shit like on the Ralph Lauren reference. You know, you would see all these references. No, no, no. That was on my docket. So Ralph Lauren and who? There was one more designer that came in. It was like crazy ones. It was Ralph Lauren, Akris. There was like Alexandra. It was like a bunch, a bunch of people. It was chaos. But the magic of New York at that moment, super, super early in the morning, I would bump into people. I would see like Meg Ryan at her. I'm talking about giving you everything that you want. The haircut was still good. Like it was right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you would see all those things. And I was skateboarding still at that point. To work? Well, kind of. Like because it was kind of a thing. And I got the Chanel thing that I put my skateboard in because I was giving the kids everything. So I was like, at that point I was like, I was wearing like vintage Dior Hedi Slimane jeans with a vintage T-shirt. Oh, so it was slim. Everything was slim. It was giving tiny, tiny. She was a 29 waist. She was everything. I'll take it what's on the mannequin. Yes. And I was in like a Vans or a Chuck Taylor. That's why I have mad respect for Jordan. Because Jordan rocks the boat. Jordan rocks the Vans. But we need to move on from those checkered Vans. Can you please tell him? We need to find another shoe. He won't wear the Dries ones. They're too flat for him, I think. Is the Dior one too thick? The sole too thick, you think? I actually don't. He doesn't have the Dior ones. I told him about that. We should try that. But so anyway, cut to we do all that. All the things are great. How long did you have the store? I had it for a while. And then I met my husband. How'd you meet your husband? We shared a barber. So my husband was the head of something in entertainment. I don't remember what it was. But he worked for like his whole career was like entertainment. So he worked with all the like the top of the top. Also, just to pause on that, Adair is such a calm, beautiful soul. He is the Jordan in the relationship. He's definitely the Jordan. And we are each other. They are. He's just. Oh, when you say somebody is a wonderful person, people don't usually get that said about them. And they don't mean it. Yeah. Adair is a wonderful person. Yeah. He's very. Grounded. Just detriment sometimes. Of course. But because I'm like, I don't care about those people. Yeah. He's like, what should we say? I'm like, I do not fucking care about the fundraiser for the cookies. Like what? Like, don't ask me to do that shit. Anyway, but he's like there. He's literally there. Passing tickets out. No, he's the best. Helping the kid out the pool. He makes me feel calm. I'm like, not my child. No, no. R.I.P. Like what? Girl, I'm joking. Okay. Anyway, so I meet, I meet Adair. Okay. We share a barber. The barber's like, oh, you need to meet this guy. Speak it. He was a straight guy. His name was Crizzo. He was cutting every major music executive and rapper in the world. He would come to my house. This is when I lived on 72nd and Park on the Upper East Side. Oh. Always, baby. Don't play no games. Did you help? Y'all can help all that. Y'all can help all that other stuff. Y'all can have that weird John F. Kennedy want to live in Tribeca shit. Y'all can have that shit. Because it is not going to give JFK, girl. Your place is just in Tribeca, sis. Sorry. Sorry. It's not giving you. So you're giving Upper East Side lady? Baby, I'm giving 72nd and Park upsetting those women. Upsetting them. Okay. Okay. The questions that would be asked when I got in the elevator. Wait, but the store was still downtown. Store was downtown. So I would sometimes, I would pump home. I would like actually walk home. I would give you a thing, girl. I was like, I was like about that life. But you'd just be on the phone call. And I was talking to some of my friends who didn't live in the city. So they would be like earlier time things. So anyway, we meet each other from our barber. He was cutting Adair's hair, cutting my hair. And he's like, oh, I want to introduce you to this guy. And at this time, he had no idea Adair was gay. Oh. Plot twist. Plot twist. Girl. And then we met. He tried to take me to, what is it called? Not P.F. Chang's. No, no, no, sweetie. We're not Beverly Connection. What is it called? What is that place called? Mr. Joe? Maybe it was Philippe. It was Philippe. And I was like, he was like, let's just go to Philippe. Because we were supposed to go to this bar that I always go to. But my bartender wasn't there. He was like, let's just go to Philippe Chang. And I was like, who the fuck I look like? What? Not you about to take me there with Cameron. Also, love Cameron. Would have loved to sit next to him. But also, I didn't want you to take me there. Because you would have saw me fangirl out over Cameron or some motherfucking body. So we went to the Pierre. Okay. Listen. Oh, this is romantic. Girl, it's me. Me and a motherfucker who's like 9,876 who probably did the Declaration of Independence still up for me. I was like, great. This is great. Like, I'm not going to bump into anybody. And then we just start drinking. And we were there with each other for four hours. And we went on a date. That was a Friday. We went on a date on a Sunday. And he tried to kill me because he wanted to take me to like a hamachi place or something. Oh, you're like, I'm not doing that. Girl, what? I was like, okay, this is gross. And then we've been with each other ever since. So we've been married for 12, 13, something like that. 12, 13 years. 15 years. Two dates and you knew. One date and you knew. Well, I think it was the second date. It was literally the second date when he took my phone. He was like, you don't have a password on your phone? What does that mean? Yeah. And I was like, no, just my phone. He was like, you need to put a password. And I was like, well, what? He was like, what should the password be? And I was like. I was like, uh, Adair. And I made my password Adair. And it was just like, we've been rocking since then. And that was it. He got a bad bit. He fucking did. Hey, listen, let me tell you something. He fucking did. Okay, so then you moved from New York to L.A. when? We've been in L.A. maybe 10, 11 years. We probably were married for like two or three years, which we got married at the Surrey Top, New York. First, one of the first. Actually, the first gay wedding on television. Not on La La School of Court Life. No. Wait, what? Gagged. Gagged. Sorry. Hold on. Gagged. Hold on. Wait. Run that back for me. Yes. So you have the store. You meet Adair. You're going to the Pierre. Two dates. You're fully together after this point. She tries to move me to the Bronx. I was like, no, thank you. No, not doing it. And then he proposes when? Or do you propose to each other? How did that work? We're in the Hamptons. And I was like, we're laying in bed. And he was like, we should just get married. And then we went into Cartier and we bought. We literally. Actually, Cartier, shout out. I work with you guys all the time. I love you so much. I love you so much, too. Call me. Also, this is a campaign. But we walk into Cartier and then we just buy the love rings. We literally just buy the love rings. And this is like. Before. Girl, this is before the 10-carat graph. It was like, it was giving just, I'm just happy to be here on 58th. This is when we lived right next to the Paris Theater on 58th Street in New York. Bergdorf Paris Theater, my house. Okay, so then when, at what point do you close the store? I closed the store because my really close girlfriend, she was, it was just, it was time and then we closed the store and Adair was like, just chill, you know, let's figure out what do you want to do. And he was like, you can be, you can't be a, what is this, you can't be a jack of trades. You can't be a jack of all trades and a master of none, right? Is that what it is? Yeah, I think it's something like that. It's something like that. Master of none track. Like, what old person is saying shit like that? Yeah, Jason Diamond just said it. Cut to? Yep. Here we go. So he was like, what do you want to do? And I was like, well, I don't know. And I was like, well, you know, I'm really, I like to do, I just kind of love everything. I have a good sense of taste when it comes to furniture and he was like, we got a store. Why don't you just like do some stuff like that? And I was like, I don't know how to be a stylist. And then at this particular point, it was in like, maybe like a week span of me closing the business and having overflow. Not closing. I just separated from her overflow and Gabrielle Union, who's one of my best friends, she called and she was like, and it was just like, if you would call and be like, babe, I got to go to Art Basel. Do you have anything? And that's how it started. So we go to Art Basel. I give her a vintage Lanvin dress. I give her a vintage Lanvin dress, an Alaya. I mean, the Lanvin is like highly flammability because it was all polyester back then in the seventies, but it was chic. It was like a little long sleeve, like hoses with the mostest kind of thing. Just everything. Yes. What color? It was like multicolor. It was blue, white and red. And it was like, it was just really chic. Boat neck, long sleeve. It was major. And then an Alaya dress and she wore it. And then the Alaya, the Lanvin look got published in Vogue. And Vogue called me Jason Bolden Lifestyle Curator. I was like, bitch, what the fuck is that? What the fuck is that? So then people just start calling me. And I was like, uh, hi. Um, I didn't know what I was doing. I put it, I, my whole entire business started on my black car, on my American Express car. Now it's black because I've had it for, bitch, I'm a rainy member for 15 years. She just didn't get one last week. But so my whole business, I was like doing that. Wait. So this completely happened by accident. You had absolutely no aspirations of being an actual, like personal stylist for people. No, I didn't know. I was like, what? Like, huh? Wait. Okay. So, okay. Gab Union gets published. People start calling. Who's the second person after Gab Union? Like, who do you start dressing? And are you still in New York or when do you transition? I'm in New York. It just began. It was like, it was a flood of people. When were you like, okay, I'm good at this. I love this. And this is what I'm going to do. I think, I think it's when everybody just start calling. And then I had such a point of view for like a lot of, especially at this, at this time I was dressing, I had every black girl. Who were you dressing? I mean, everyone from Monica, Brandy, Nia Long, Saniya Latham. I had all of them. I had all, I had all of the girls. I had all the girlies, but we were, I had a different type of passion because I just saw this missing space of like how they weren't being seen or treated. So I was like. Or represented. But, and these were girls for me. I'm like, they're, they are the reference. Like I look at stuff and I'm looking at people saying this and it's like Nia Long and it's like, oh. I mean, Nia Long. I don't remember. Before Nia Long. No, Jen. So let's go. So it became. And Taraji, I feel like that's way back. I mean, she wasn't. She took me to the Oscars. She took me. That was my first Oscar. And I'll never forget. I'm on. She has this really iconic W Magazine cover that Edward Innofell shot. Oh, my God. And she called, she called, styled and shot. And we were in the room and Edward was there with us. And I look at Edward Innofell. Who was the shifting, the shifting fashion point in my life was Edward Innofell. He sat on the sofa next to me. He goes, who do you want her to wear to the Oscars? And I said, my dream is John Bautista Valli. I wanted a Jamba dress so bad. He picks up the phone, puts Jamba on. Hello. And I'm like, literally, literally erection. I'm like, like everything. And he's like, whatever you want. So unfortunately, the dress didn't work. But she wore it to the Indie Spirits Awards, which was major, which is still major. And the wind caught it. And then we did a custom Alberto Ferretti. And it was one of the references. It was off the shoulder, navy blue crush. Velvet just in the reference. I didn't realize it was. I didn't realize that this was a reference or something that had penetrated me so deep. But it was the Princess Diana black dress. She was on the green. Yeah. No, baby. It was that. But I did it in navy blue. Right. And then what ended up happening, it was this weird statistic or whatever. Somebody said with Getty, it had got more views, clicks or hits than that image did. It was some weird stuff like that. Yeah. They called me, but also called me a research. It was something like it was huge like that. And it was a gag for me. And then that was my that was my first true, true, real press run. And it was for Hidden Figures. And, you know, she was nominated for everything. And then she won. Like, I think she either won a Globe or a SAG, though they won the SAG. She won the Globe and a white strapless Stella McCartney. Just nothing. She was just like she was just like a little rare. Oh, she would just like fly in the wind. She was so like, oh, hang already. It was everything. So that was like your first real press run movie. That was a Hidden Figures. And then I just kind of like I was in L.A. And then I just kept I just kept and I like to just say I just kept doing good work and just being like tasteful and like the things that I like that I knew translated because it's not it's like the nothing that anybody is wanting to show you or do is anything that's like groundbreaking. Like when people try to say, oh, this style. This is the new stylist. This is the thing. It's like, girl, they just like it's it's fine. It's literally fine. But the point is, when you create a DNA and a point of view and you stick to it and you're so clear and you're consistent, that's when the girlies and the boys come because there's something so clear about it. When you have such a clear point of view of things that are it's not just a you can't just slap it on everyone, right? Like you have to personalize every single person that you are. That's a good stylist. That's a good. And also you can tell how people collect. The people that they work with. See, for me, baby, I had at one point I had Ava DuVernay. You know, I had Ava DuVernay down to Michael B. Jordan. Then I would throw an Angelina Jolie in there and then I would throw I would have like Amy Sherl who painted Mrs. Michelle Obama, which I dress Amy Sherl for that. It's just like my stuff was a range like it's a range. The beauty of a good stylist is to have range just because you dress yourself. Well, doesn't mean you can dress other people. Well, absolutely. Or you have the restraint and you have the point of view. You're like, child, I'm only dressing this one type of person because I know I can turn it. Right. But for me, I like the idea of seeing diversity in that way because it would challenge me. I also want to do the person that everybody says no to. But I'm almost like, oh, it's something there. Watch me turn this out. But also talk about styling men and women. Oh, yeah. That's not easy. And baby, I turn it. And most of you. I mean, all of the I mean, I know that you know what we said about Nicholas Holt on this show. I mean, that moment for me is something I try not to think about. Too much because it was just so fucking good. Michael B. Jordan for the Oscars this year. Let's let's just talk about Michael B. Jordan. Oh, do you want to get let's just talk about that. Well, I mean, listen, I have we have Michael B. Jordan who won his first Oscar. We have Ryan Coogler who wrote and directed who won for best screenplay. Jordan loved the movie, by the way. It's amazing. Some people were like, I was like, he loved it. No, it's it's something very special about it. And they keep using this reference that it was just like speaking of these shakes, child, because, you know, I hate a shake. People talk about it, but they said it's like the perfect shape. You can put all that. Weird stuff in it. And then he blended it and it came out. It's like, this is good. I like this. And did you think he would win? I wanted him to win very, very badly. I wanted him to win best picture because and I think it's because I'm so close to him. And I just know that what for Ryan Coogler in particular, like particularly him, it's because I just know him and I just know that he's in it just for the work. Anyway, so for Michael's thing is like we I just wanted to do something. My whole run with Michael was like, how do we bring Sidney Poitier? And Harry Balafonte back? Like, how do we pay homage? You are you are that right now. And the Vuitton look was just we fit it. We literally put it on for the first time. And it was just kind of like, you know, you put like when you're trying to find something, you're like, this just can't be this right. We put it on and it was right. And that was it. That was it. And it was beautiful. And I just think he looked so like solid and easy. And it was it felt fresh. Tell me about working with Nicole. Oh, Nicole. I mean, oh, kid. First of all, how? How long have we been working with Nicole? Because I just feel like four or five years. Has it been that long? The girl that's like that. But like, again, this is the thing. Talking from a boy from St. Louis, Missouri, having the ultimate reference like she's someone everybody can be like, I'm a fashion girly. I'm a this. I'm a that. But baby, have you ever stood in a room where Galeano has draped on you or Karl Lagerfeld has draped on you? Like, have you ever stood in those? You ain't never done that. So you hold all of your stuff. To yourself, like that is a fashion girl. She you know, we call her we call her mother couture because all she does is couture. She is the reference for couture. She started the red carpet. That's chartreuse Dior. What are we talking? I think about that dress once a week. Baby, what are we talking about? Like that with the tendrils? I mean, that that. Let me tell you the real the realest gag to all of this is. Is Nick is probably the most humble. Of course. Happiest. Well, duh, funny, like, like, well, you know, do you know she's a Gemini baby? I know. Thank you wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked sense of humor. And she gives the best parenting advice. She's the one who told me, like, she was like, you just got she's the one who's like, we come here who we are. You just got to let them you got to love them and let them be. I mean, like that. But can you imagine that as you're putting her in a custom Chanel couture dress and she's like, babe, just love the kids and let them be. And I'm like, girl. You are the same size. But also. Moulin Rouge. Work. Share it. But also the thing that's so crazy is like you're dressing all of these like top A-list people. And don't you feel like the people who are at the top and the biggest are always most humble and the nicest? Yeah. Right. You know what? Yeah. Very, very, very, very, very true. But, you know, my biggest thing now is like when I meet these meet the young kids, I'm fresh out the gate giving them that. Or if I don't work with you, that's probably why. Because I don't have time. Like I have the like I have the Internet's boyfriend right now. Tyreek. Withers. Right. Everybody dies for him. We know. You know, he's a cutie. I was just FaceTiming him this morning. We had the best conversation. But it's just like the morning of the Met or the day before the Met. I think it was the morning of the Met. We did his fitting. We went to go have coffee. And it's just like to see an underdog like that and to see his to see how he's propelled and he's become like this. The growth is. Yeah. The fashion force. Out of like nothing. Out of nothing. In such a quick time. And he's he's he's he's just he's just so humble. And he's just like just really, really happy to be there. OK. And people don't say thank you. These people are nuts. The way I'm telling. Like thank you for both waters. Give me an option. Horrible. But great. We got another Saratoga somewhere. We're moving on to Voss. But the craziest thing about this is that the amount like of times I am interrupting my children to say please and thank you. Crazy. Where are the manners? They don't have them. There's no home training. Listen, I dress 12 people for the Met. That was my question. So, no, no. Twelve. Who are those 12 people? And how does that work? Girl, it's chaos. But I love it because it gives me it's like it gives me my calm. If it's it's what I've dreamed about. So I don't complain about it. But logistically, who are the 12 people? It's crazy. So Nicole Kidman, her daughter, Sunday Rose. Loved it. Cara Delevingne, Nicholas Holt, Gigi Hadid. Oh, oh, OK. Paige, basketball player. Basketball player. There is Steph and Ayesha Curry. Yes, baby. And custom Balenciaga. Dwayne Wade. No, we. Danny Ramirez. Danny Ramirez. Tariq Withers. And I think I think that's it. That's 12. It was 12 people. And I think what happens is, is because the trust is so deep with all those people and these really close relationships with the brands, it has it is such a science now. And it's like it's like this beautiful mathematic equation that now has been solved. And it's just like, here is plug and play. But it's also when you look at the body of work, they all have one thing in common. And it's expensive. It's expensive because they look expensive. It is just like you poured everything that you had into this moment. But it feels so good and so solid and so authentic. You know, that's the through line for me. But everybody has their own personality. Everything is completely. their own personality. - Do you like to collaborate with your clients? If somebody's like, I feel very strongly that I don't like this, but you have a very strong vision. You're like, it has to be this. Like, what are those moments of tension? How do they get resolved for you? I'll do that. No. Girl, you know me. It's a, we're done. Look at these times when you send me a photo and I'm like, girl, no. By the way, I do have a photo. For Friday, I have to talk to you about stuff. Okay, let's do that. But, like, I think it's, I want you, and I say this to everybody that I go with, there's two things that I want you to do. Okay. I want you to keep a job and stay healthy. Those are just two things. You know what that means. Just, that's it. Yeah. Let me, I want you to worry about that. Do I love your point of view and your attention to detail and your appreciation for the arts of this? Yes. Yeah, okay. But what I want you to understand is there is always a story and there is always a theory to why I'm doing this. So if I tell you, I tell this to people that I meet all the time or new clients that I meet all the time. It's just like, if I tell you to wear this black dress, you might be like, oh, Jason, it's so simple. Oh, oh my God, I want a thing. Or like, hey, just wear this black double-breasted suit, great white shirt, like done, slightly unbuttoned, tassel, easy, right? I just want to be, I'm like, no, there's a reason for all of this, right? That black dress, the reason I'm telling you to wear that black dress, that could be Mrs. Prada's favorite look from that collection. Now it turns into something else. But I want you to focus on staying healthy and doing your job while I do my job. Correct. Because when you asked me about that campaign, when you asked me about this, I'm like, here you go, serve it up. Which one you want? This is, there are orders. There's steps. There is a whole process that's getting people to places. I like to, and I don't talk about myself like this, but I like to say, like, every single person that I work with and every single person that I touch has a campaign. Those are facts. I think the episode ends right there. Those are facts. That's fucking. So you can put people in great clothes, but what's the point? I need, I want to help you create a business where you make money while you sleep. Like, that's part of it. You should make a, this is a business. And all those things is a business. So every time you walk out, I want you to be able to portray something. And Nicole Kidman says something to me all the time, which I think is so genius. And I took it from her and I try to present it in every fitting. Who do you want to be today? Because Nick will say, babe, who do you want me to be today? And I would just gravel. And I'm like, now that is a thing. That's an icon. Stimpy Revo just got the MBE something in England where you get like a stamp or a pen. A pen or something. I don't know. What did she wear for that? Custom Givenchy. The light shoe with that. When I saw the side profile with it, it was sort of like a grayish beige. It was a gray. Yeah. And black, you know. But it's like, it's women like, it's women like her. Like when we were doing the Wicked Run and, you know, we were pulling all. When Lee from, when Lee was at Givenchy and we were pulling all the Alexandra McQueen things that he wore. And she would just slide them on. And she was like, what do you think the woman would say? Who wore this on the, on the day walking down the thing? And I was just stuff like that. You're like, what the fuck? Where you become, where you see an actor be an actor. Where you're like, that is exactly why you're nominated. That is exactly why you will forever work. Because you can see the true work and the artistry come through them into the garment. Okay. Final question. Jason Bolden, next five years, is there a place, a person, a thing that you want to achieve? A client, a destination? Anything that you're like, this needs to happen for me in the next five years. It could be a bag. Anything that you're like, today, in five years, I need to have this. I mean, there's three things that I constantly talk about. Oh, okay. I love that he has three. Tell me. There's three things that I constantly talk about. Like, as you know, my husband and I own a cocktail bar called Damn My Miss Paris. He, I had to invite myself. But we're friends. Damn My Miss Paris, really great. Like, we don't do any PR. We don't even talk about it. It's just, it's become like the heart and soul of West Adams in a way. And I want to, I want us, myself and my husband, to expand that into something else where it's. It's a brand. Yeah, where you can. Beyond. Where you can, you know, I want to sleep with every man and every woman. Because I want my sheets to be there. I want everybody to, I want to be able to say, I slept with you. Or, I've had dinner with you. That's going to happen. No, it's happening. It's going to happen. That's happening. So, like, that type of thing and, like, the, you know, the lifestyle of that. And then, I really, really, really, really. Really want to do a fashion historical film. Like, costume design. And I don't want to say, like, what other people have fucked up. But, like, I want to do something where it's just, like, is I want to be so knee deep in it that when I post stuff on my Insta story, people like you, like, I post that shoe. Remember that Prada shoe Mrs. Prada wore? Screenshot it for a hundred years. But it's, like, I want it to. I want it to be so visceral. I want it to be, like, am I pregnant? Do I need a plan B or do I want to keep it? I want it to feel so tightly connected to someone. And the third thing, I just, I want to continue to try to create an amazing, amazing human. That's the only three things I care about right now. I adore you. Same, same. I am so happy you came on. You're going to have to, because there's going to be a lot of follow-up. They gave me 55 minutes here, but you need to come back on because there are so many different things. You need to talk about nothing on your paper. No, no. That's the gag. Didn't need it. That's the gag. She said, Jason Bolden research. That's it, girl. We ain't talking about that shit. Nope. I. But I'll see you this weekend. This is the other thing that a lot of people don't know, because I'm going to say this. Say it. This is the funny, funny, funny thing. Morgan's birthday is so close to my son's birthday that we actually have to plan around each other's birthdays. Correct. It is the most annoying thing. I know. The most annoying thing in the world. I'm showing up really hungover Saturday. Girl. It's going to be really painful. Girl, good thing there will be a DJ in the dark room, so we will both be there. And it won't be like last year, because I will be taught. 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