How Big Pharma Hijacked Your Health w/ Miguel & Carlos

There's a guy by the name of the name, Kim Jong, the equin-tong French. He did a ton of different scientific studies. Two that are incredible. One of them, he took three, I think, was three dogs, right? He did it in France and the university. People were watching. He took the dogs, he bled them. Took all the blood out of them. Took all their blood out. And then hooked them up and put this electrolyte, which is just seawater. He put it into their bloodstream. Every single dog got up and walked off. Then they did that same study twice, two in America, one in Spain, I think. They replicated and they had the same exact result. It was used for tuberculosis. It was used for many different-- It was considered medicine until big pharmaceuticals. It was four different specialties-- urology, and radiology, cardiology, and organology. Over 17 countries, 26 research and medical institutions were involved, and they gave their medical consensus on testosterone. Tisotrom deficiency increases your risk of all cost mortality. Tisotrom therapy does not cost cardiovascular disease nor prostate cancer. Dr. Charles Huggin, who in the 1940s did a study on three patients, not going to get into details, but basically two were throwing out because-- They didn't qualify. One of them was castrated. Yeah. So it was based on one patient. They were testing at the time something called acid phosphatase that is irrelevant. But when given testosterone, this acid phosphatase went up, and it increased the prostate accedulated cancer based on this flawed study. It lingered till today. What the fuck? How does that-- you did a study on one guy? One guy-- One guy-- 80 years later. 80 years later, it changed. Every-- No, no, no, no, but here's the problem. Here's the problem. [MUSIC PLAYING] OK. Guys. Finally. Finally. I think we canceled and rescheduled this four different times. Yeah, three times. Our fault. That's all good. Glad to finally have you guys here. I mean, how long have we known each other two, three years or so? Three years. Yeah, three years. And so you guys, when we met, I had used BPC157. That was the extent of my peptide experience. Started working with you guys. Tried the peptide terzepatide, which helped me get absolutely shredded about a year and a half ago. And since then, I've been going down the peptide rabbit hole. I think it's super incredibly interesting. There's peptides for almost everything. And so you guys are the guys. I mean, you guys are the most knowledgeable people I know on this topic. Thank you. So before we dive into all that, let's talk about who you are, your background. Let's establish some credibility here. I think that'll come out a lot as you guys start to talk about this stuff. Where do you start pitching people on this whole peptide movement? Ah, yeah, yeah. Well, first of all, I think I speak for both of us that we're super grateful for this opportunity. And obviously, to hang out with you the more-- The more time that we get, it's cooler every time. So thank you for having us. We're very appreciative. I guess to preface our conversation, the audience should know that everything that we're going to talk about here comes from not only 10 years of experience in the clinical space. So we've been doing this with labs on their proper management, clinical dosing, medical doctors overseeing the results. And we have 50,000 labs under a career at this point. I mean, actually, we're going to probably do the math for the book that we're going to publish soon. But so it's a lot of data and doing it in ethical ways. And obviously maintaining this a credit goes, doing no harm and wanting the best for the patient. So our opinions here is just based on some of anecdotal evidence because as some of these things, especially in the peptide world, a lot of things are not regulated. They don't have the double-blan placebo control long-term studies. And so our conversation is going to be shaped around managing patients for over 10 years. And so to go back to your question, I'll say, when do we start pitching peptides? I also am sorry. I'm just like, how? It's such a big space. What is the entry? How do you-- what is a peptide? For instance. Yeah. What is the money show? We'll call it the WIP show today. What is a peptide? So we like for simplicity. It's kind of like biological software code, the way that I like to think about it. Or like a GC at a construction site. Or it's a communicating molecule, right? Like an instruction manual that communicates to yourself, hey, I need you to perform this function this way and this way. In this measure. In science terms, there's a short chain of amino acids that provides these instructions. And as you know, there's peptides for-- I don't know. So I mean, there's how many peptides? Hundreds of peptides for different functions. So I would just simplify it. If peptides are a biological signeter, all they're doing is sending out a signal. And your body needs to render that signal. But you need the resources, right? And if your body doesn't have the resources, the proper magnesium levels, nitric oxide, and so on, then your body will not be able to perform that job at 100%. It's like telling a general manager, telling it's construction workers to build a rich carotid, but they only have rocks and and shovels. You're not going to get a real carotid. So before we get into peptides, I think it's important to establish key components in our nutritional lifestyle and our nutritional diet that we don't get anymore, right? Because if you go back 500 years ago, the way our lands and our crops were much more nutritiony dens than they are today. So unless you have key components, inside your body, these biological signers are not going to perform their best. - G-g-g-g. - So I've heard it called like a biological language. I mean, that's kind of what you're saying, right? It's a signaling system, signaling molecule. But if you don't have the right raw materials, not gonna be able to get-- - How are you gonna get? - It's like an engineer or an architect, they propose the plan that don't do the work. - Sure. - And so it's like the cells are like, okay BPC, thank you. You want me to rebuild the bone with what? - Yeah. - Right, I do. - No, it's just-- - You know, that's why, as Miguel said, when people call us about peptides, we're like, hey, hey, hey, look, my job is to make sure as an ethical practitioner, our job is to make sure that we maximize your ROI. Like, you don't want to sell you the peptide, I can sell you the peptide, but I want you to get results, and I want you to get the outcome that you're after. And so, you know, Miguel always says like, you can't build the wall when the building is burning. - Right, right, right. - You know, if you got a ton of inflammation, if your hemoglobin in one C is over, and you don't have your diet, right? I mean, good luck with, you know, doing CJC or repol, you know, one of these peptides, you're just flushing it down the toilet. - So, you know, these things are supplements. I mean, I guess that may be advanced supplements, but they're supplemental to the basics, right? - Diet exercise training. - So, people were putting up-- - I think we should start to first cover the bases. The building blocks, so these amino acids can perform their job, right? - Yeah. - If you don't have the building blocks, what we've noticed from anecdotal medical experience, from seeing thousands of labs, and just trying to put together the lexicon of how complex this could be, and how complex our systems are, right? Why does he get really good results with BPC? And I don't. Or why do I get really good results with Tessa Maranan, and he does it, right? - And that's a really important point. The cool thing about us doing this for this long and as brothers, genetically, you know, from the same mom and same dad, is, you know, and we've done a ton of genetic testing, right? 'Cause what he's saying is how come this got, how come you will get a great result in your front wound, right? So with us, we're almost identical in terms of genetics. Like a lot of geneticists have told us, hey, if I didn't know you guys, I'd think you guys are like a step away from being twins. - Oh wow. - And yet, we have wildly different symptoms. We react totally different to the same medication at the same dose. - Wow. - Right? Like we metabolize things differently, right? And so-- - And so, you know, and that's why it's been really exciting for us to not only take the peptide world, but also dive into the world of genetics with peptides. And that's what-- - Yeah. - So, what's the whole thing from the-- - Building blocks all the way to engineering peptides to your genome sequence. That's what we're doing now. The cartels and ira just interested at this point, the net off the shelf peptides, but actually engineer peptides to what's going on in your genes, right? You guys-- - You've created to your genetic code. - Yeah, but-- - Just to double click on something interesting you just said, you guys are near identical genetically. - Genetically. - We know that very divergent experiences of different dose-dose things. - And you know us, we have very different personalities. - That's what it is. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know, we know differently. - Yeah, we know that. - I wonder-- - 'Cause so a term I got from Saladino's bio-individuality. - Yes. - But I guess I just assumed that was all genetic, but it sounds like there's something deeper than that. So what do you guys have any, I don't know, hypothesis? What's going on there? If you're so genetically similar, how do you still have so much bio-individuality between the two of you? - Let me answer that real quick from the most geek way possible because the bio-individuality thing is at the core, what we do it's on our website. Everything we do is bio-individualized. It's actually called end of one, which nothing is cookie cutter. Everything is tailored and the analytics are followed based upon the patient's reaction. So let's go back for a second. What makes you and I different? And him and I different. We all have 3.2 billion pairs of nucleotide letters in total is 6.4 billion nucleotide letters. So it's ATGC, that's the alphabet of the entire genome. Now the way they're sequenced, you can have snips, meaning you have a T where there should be a G and that's where there's genetic errors. - Right. - And that's where we're different. This is kind of like to give you analogy if you can have a misspelled word instead of a B. You can have lake, you can have cake, you can have run-on sentences, you can have missing pages. This is where you get somebody that's down syndrome versus a God-looking person, right? So it all comes down to the gene sequencing. And unless we know exactly how your 6.4 billion nucleotide letters are aligned, it is impossible to tell you how you're going to respond to everything and this is what we call pure genomics. The way your genetic makeup is going to react to a certain drug. With AI, we're going to get to a point where we can sequence with a diagnostic, slap it onto a computer, see exactly how your sequence and see on a sandbox, how your body responds to every medication and say, hey, between these standards, this is one that's good for you. Between these peptides, these are the ones you're responsive to because of the way your genetic sequence is set. And one more thing, to. - They're also doing that kind of like how they do with, I'm sorry, in terms of like kind of like antibiotics. There's some antibiotics that you will not respond to or a bacteria, you know, so you test it. So this is kind of the thing that we're doing. It's been done with a series of medications, but this is, you know, I don't think you were going, I apologize, peptides, we're not there yet. - Yeah, right. - So there's something called the exposome, which is the umbrella of the totality of damage we've had from our environment and biologically, from stress, nutritional deficiencies, all that. That causes wear and tear to your immune system. It's called the immune, immunosenscence, it's the exploration of your immune system. So as long as we're breathing and we're biological beings, we're having cellular turnover rate. We're losing about two million cells per second to have 40 trillion cells survive. - Wow. - That's like that, two million per, about 50 billion a day. So as long as you're having that cell turnover rate as your DNA replicates, there's errors in that sequence. Our machinery starts to make mistakes. And this is where the genes start to kind of move out of balance or kind of like the boat, you know, from so many waves. And now the autopilot gets a little off course. And now you keep going for 10, 20, 30 years, you're gonna end up in a completely different destination. - Gotcha. - So it's like a moving part as well, right? - It's like the great vine communication, right? So you got DNA, which then communicates to RNA, which is a transcript or mechanism. - Right. - And it goes to proteins and that goes to metabolites. - And then there's lands, it's so on. - So when there's a mishap in the communication and then the tissue is doing something different that it's not supposed to, you carry that over for 10 years. - Right. - This is how you get dissonance, this is how you get disease. - This is butterfly effect too, right? Like small changes in initial conditions can have really outsized outcomes. - 100 percent. - Yeah, yeah. - The butterfly that flaps its wings causes the hurricane. - So it's kind of like, it is so like, you know, like the whole MTH of far thing and the genetic testing, which is super important. Like, you know, now they have the methylation test, most of us know what that is. I always like to compare, like we have a double copy of the MTH of our gene, right? That's very important to know. You know, you're talking about guy, and you know, Miguel was the same guy. I was prescribed 16 milligrams of Adderall a day at 16. - 16. - 6.0. - By one of the top dark psychologists in the nation, which would be in prison, I was smoking a pack of cigarettes a day. It was like completely outside of my mind anxious. And all it was was the nutrition deficiency, right? And so you wanna find this early on because when you have MTH of far, right? Which we now know like high homocysteine related to heart disease and neurodegenerative conditions, it's almost like having a rotor and an engine that's spinning a couple degrees of access, right? You carry that over time 10, 20, 30 years, this is a disease. Oh, I didn't have a problem in all of a sudden, I have this disease. Well, you know, it's because of this, this regulation of communication, all this very complex system that works, you know, in the infinitely small. - Yes, interesting. So, okay, raw materials are the first thing we should talk about before we go anywhere else. - Yes, please. And he can talk real fast if he wants about, so as you know, we're writing a book and one of the things that we started is the three silent killers. Like what are the things that are affecting us the most? We can't start building without first, it's kind of like you can't rebuild the city that's been abandoned until you clean it up, right? And fix the roads before you go in there. So, we have to first talk about the silent killers, which is the nutritional deficiencies in our soils. Everything is industrialized now and every time you do a new like round of, you know, like whenever you, how do you say it, whenever you crop a new batch, the soil is demeneralized. So basically you would need in comparison to what is a 1940 or something, you would need 43 bowls of spinach or 37 apples to get the same nutritional value as one, basically 50 years ago. That is an actual statistic. And this is like a super interesting question like we've been doing this for, this has been really a heavy subject and you know, to go back to the original question at what point do you start talking about peptides? It's like, look, you wanna answer the biggest question, where's my camera? Like I just wanna communicate this to the, so don't buy the trend by the science, right? Don't buy the trend by the science. So it's like, you know, peptides are super sexy, but it's like every time I think about peptides and when people call us, oh, I want this and I want this and I want this and I want this, it's like for why? And in their minds, it's kind of like, I wanna have $5 million mansion. All of us want a $5 million mansion, but nobody wants to think about what that mansion look like when it was just raw pipes, two white forests and plumbing. But if you don't have those things, you don't have a mansion, right? So you wanna do the unsexy work first, that's where we get into the raw material conversation. And then you've got to like, back up even more. Why? Why should I even try to do this? Why should I take this seriously? Why should I focus on my health? And the thing is, you know, this is how kind of like every conversation in a company starts and how our book starts is like, look, you're finding three silent enemies every single day of your life that most people will never tell you about. And you know this because you're educated. So the first is endocrine disrupting chemicals, right? These are very serious. You know this, right? Infertility, they cause all kinds of things. They drop your testosterone, complete endocrine disruptions and these things are unavoidable, man. You're smearing them on your skin in form of soap, shampoo, the odor and toothpaste, air freshener, can't, up, this shit's everywhere, right? It's in the carpets, it's everywhere. You're eating it and drinking it. You're clothes. Now science is telling us what? We're eating about a quarter carts worth of plastic a month. It's about 0.5. Which is 0.5 to 5 grams of plastic per month. Just you have an idea and you're had a strawberry's of 5 grams, 5 to 6 grams. That's how much plastic we're consuming. And in 2024, microplastics were found in every human testicle sack that was tested. And 87% of fallopian fluids of the fluid inside the fallopian tubes of females. This stuff is everywhere. And newsflash people, your body was not made to digest plastic, right? And I can already tell you're like, oh my God, it's overwhelming. Well the most shocking part for me was the, 'cause it accumulates in the testing. - Oh, the brain. - And the brain. - You and I, all of us right here, we're inhaling it in micro particulars in the air conditioning vents. And it's crossing the blood brain barrier. - Oh, that's it, podcast. (laughing) - So you know, listen, it's crossing your blood brain barrier. And most people at this point, they're like, okay, that's it, I know it's too much, right? But hey, listen, I just need you to be aware of it. Because it's real and we have a solution and we can mitigate it, right? - Yeah. - And then so it's kind of like the way that I like to think about it is like your cells, you know, the ones that you're telling with peptides to do shit. - Right. - Your cells are being bombarded by chemicals that they don't really know what to do with because from an evolutionary perspective, some of these chemicals, I mean, 90% of these chemicals weren't even around 40 years ago, right? And we have this massive assault. So, you know, our cells are engineered for resilience and so they try to fight, but then you have a really big problem. And I, you know, I always tell people who are trying to go into this journey, I'm like, listen, if you never hear from me again, if you accept what I'm about to tell you as a reality, because you're gonna understand it. But this subject confuses and trumps, and you know, it's the greatest obstacle for most people from PhDs that we work with to bodybuilder soccer moms and everything in between, you know? And it's the fact that we have lost a humongous amount of micronutrients and trace mineral elements in the soils all over planet Earth, right? And if you allow me, I'll give you a tiny little story, a real story, because we've known this for years. And I remember there was a client that walked through our doors. He was over 300 pounds. He showed up early to our appointment. And he sat down and, you know, I was trying to go into this, right, like, hey, so when you come out, like we're gonna give you recommendations that are gonna be based on this, right? Because we have to overcome these deficiencies, right? Because your body's trying to fight, but it doesn't have the resources to fight. - Sure. - Because you're not, it's not receiving them from the ground, which is how we used to get our nutrients through food. So this guy is listening to this pitch and he says, "Whoa, whoa, Carlos, like, hold on." Listen, let me stop here right there. Let me tell you who I am. And he literally said these words, "I'm this fucking fat because I'm addicted to sugar. I need you to help me with my addiction." And I was like, thank you for your honesty, right? And he said, "Bring listen, not only do I believe "in what you're saying, but let me add on to what you're saying. "Let me tell you who I am. "I'm a recently retired third generation, "industrial, agricultural engineer. "My grandfather was an agricultural engineer, "my daddy was an agricultural engineer. "I was an agricultural engineer for 45 years. "I recently retired." And let me give you the reality about what you're saying. In order for you to get 100% nutrient dense foods, you would have to move to the Amazon. Find a plot that has never been touched by human irrigation runoff. Okay. Knock it down, till it, seed it, plow it, do the whole thing, grow it. And you would only get three, four maximum grossed out of it. And then you would have to find a different plot. That's the reality. So if you live in an industrialized city, as most of us do, the reality is that, and this is the fact that you have to accept, food is no longer enough. Usually what you're putting in your mouth is only feeding maybe 20, 30% of your cells that are inside your body in darkness, deaf, blind, no taste buds, and they need to perform these jobs. - Even the carnivore diet, even the high meat diet. - I mean, listen, there's better diets than others, but the fact is that you have absorption rates. So that's another thing that we'll get into, like protein absorption rates, right? Like this is a complicated subject. And so you can't eat enough to get the resources that your body needs on a daily basis. - Well, yeah, no, in a carnivore diet, yeah, you're getting lean, clean macronutrients, but you're negating the micronutrients, which are the oil to the system. You're thinking about gasoline, you gotta think about the oil as well. And unfortunately, it's not enough, right? That's, and any extreme diet, we're not fans of keto, carnivore, vegan, none of them. If you look, we had a highly diversified diet back in the days, we ate with seasons and just, you know, cycles, right? And then agricultural time came around, and we started cropping stuff. So we were, most of our diet was based on carbohydrates, right? So it's going back, that's part of what we're doing in our book is taking people to the past, right? And what were the core things we were doing in order to stay healthy and vibrant? If you think about it, we fasted on a regular basis. We didn't have food all the time. We had to hunt. You either had to build it, make it, or go get it, right? All food was completely nutritionally dense for your toxins. So there was no chemicals, there was no pesticides. Then exercise was a natural part of our daily life. Again, you had to build it, chase it, or go get it. Our water was clean, pristine water, right? It was completely mineralized. We didn't have toxins. Oh, what else? We slept seven to nine hours a day. We went to bed with the moon and awakened with the sun. We had a natural alarm clock. Our iPhones were the sun and the moon, right? And photo-biomagulation, sun, there's a medical term to it called photo-biomagulation. Photo is in photons, meaning packets of light, bios and living organism, and a modulation, the influence of light on ourselves, right? So our bodies eat energy. Then you had, we lived in a non-toxic world. There was no artificial lighting. There was in any toxins or any other man-made chemicals we can't even spell. And then we were grounded all the time, right? And that's a big one we'll touch later. We were more, we were first electrical before we were anything else. And most of us are electrically deficient. We're disconnected from the earth. And that creates a host of other issues. So that's why when you talk to me about PET, it's like, we got to first talk about. What about Dio, you speak? I'm like, how are you getting so close to all that getting grounded? Yeah, and we can talk about. Which is free. We can talk about what sleep actually starts from the moment you wake up, right? And you got one hour, it's called the cortisol awakening response. The higher you hit the peak, the more you cause a negative feedback loop. So by the end of the day, you're exhausted and you're going to go to bed no matter what you do. On the short of you taking a. Yeah, a keto cocaine or something. You sent me a reel about that from human oxygen. Yes, yes, yes, from. Remember one biohack was to spike your morning cortisol. Yes, so you get the opposite at night, right? Yes, because if you wake up and you don't do it, you try to do it, I don't know. And now we're later after you wake up, you train and you do all these things. You try to. You're never going to get to that peak and you're going against your circadian rhythm. So it completely discombobulates your entire circadian rhythm. Right? And that's why some people become nut owls. Yeah, yeah. So the last one? So it's okay to hit the coffee first thing, then. But yes, but then you want to use it strategically, right? Like if you wait at least an hour to. Because you have to understand what wakes you up is cortisol and DHA. Before your eyes open, what actually wakes you up is cortisol starts to raise the HN and you open your eyes and you start moving. That's why you got to get up with an intention. You got to move. And I tried the first hour, think about it, my window, I'd redline on the back and I have sun hitting me right into my face. And I try to look right into the sun because that hits something called the melanopsin retinine ganglyol cells that then hit the super-casmatic nucleus which that causes a cascade domino effect of things that are waking you up. So you start switching on all the day mode power and turning off the night stuff. So by getting that light, right? I brush my teeth. I go downstairs. I do a many stretching routine with a many breath routine as well to get more hydrogen, which is another resource. Yeah, well, yeah. We'll get into all of that. So anyways, I'm going off subject, but it's very important that you wait about an hour if you can. And sometimes I do it because it stimulates to go to the bathroom. But if you wait long enough and you do breath when you move your body, the first study minute, you will go to the bathroom. That's what I noticed. So the reason why you don't want to drink in the morning is because adenosine, which is a molecule which starts to accumulate and that's what kind of makes you tired. And that's why you drink coffee and blocks those receptors in your back online, aside from semening and central nervous system. It's kind of like you're trying to put gas when the gas tank is already full. Yeah. You want to wait about an hour. So when you sit in front of your computer or you're going to work, you drink that coffee. Now you get that bone, that peak. And now you have BDNF production, right? Rather than ruining it by drinking coffee in the morning. It's that related to you. And I hope this term is correct. The Milano-Cortan pathway. Yeah, it's cruise talks about about signalling all your hormones to fire in the right sequence. Yes. Yeah. So the last piece that I was saying about ancestral living is we lived within a tightly bonded, interconnected community, right? There was trust. There was bond. And we produced a lot of dopamine. And dopamine reduces anxiety, stress, and fear, right? Which today, there's a lot of stress. And the man, there's a lot of time. And you know me, I'm already energetic. I don't know. It was kind of born in a fucking glitchy way. So I got it. That's what he said. I got it. No, no. No, no. The four meditations you did right before the podcast were all in there. I got to always be pumping the brakes with you, right? And especially, just I didn't get good sleep last night. So usually I just plow through. And it just puts me in a worse situation. The point is, because we don't have enough dopamine and we're depleted, our bodies are completely haywire. I like to say that human beings have become physically weaker, metabolically slower, and biologically softer, because we're overfed, overstimulated, hypermedicated, yet malnourished, and dopamine depleted. And on top of it, spiritually bankrupt. So when you add it all up and you call us talking about a pet tight, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow the-- slow the left down, man. There's many steps together so that by the way, because we wanted you to maximize results. I can't take your money, but I get it. Yeah, I'm not going to much. I get it. But I'm like, yeah, before we talk about that, let me see-- Whoa. People will be like, I want the clothes, the Wolverine stock, I want two or seven, I want Moncy, I want Tessa Monty, and I'm like, who the hell have you been listening to? You want me to send you an $8,000 bill, or you want me to give you a bunch of stuff for free. Right, right. That are going to give you true longevity. And this is just people pursuing conveniences, right? They want the magic pill, or in this case, the magic shot, whatever it is, to solve all their problems. But you guys are given the very pragmatic advice. Like, hey, start with a basic blocking and tackling before you start running the Statue of Liberty Play. Yes. And it drives me insane, and I won't say any names. So all you guys watching, you've seen them online. They give you, oh, I'm going to give you all this free advice on sleep. And they talk nothing about photobimization movement. They talk about nothing. They give you three peptides. So it's like, OK, so if I want good sleep, I need to do three peptides for the rest of my life. That's not longevity, man. That's not how it works. You're just an addict. You're replacing one bad choice for another. Yes. So what is-- So to go back to the original thing, so the three silent killers of EDCs, that's why you take it seriously, because your hormones are being this something-- The reason what he was talking about, the pristine water and all this stuff, that's why our testosterone levels were great. And our hormones were great, because we had non-toxic food, non-toxic environment. And we have-- Before you get just to close that and don't worry, we're going to give you guys solutions, very massive ways of getting rid of this stuff. There's a new term being coined reductase medicine. It's not about what you're putting in, it's about what you're getting out of it. Oh, yeah. Because if you're a negative, they call it inflows. Yeah. Because if you're all you're fasting, too. Because if your receptors are filled with endocrine disrupting chemicals, these estrogenics are binding to the receptor, kind of like a key in a key log, but it's not the key. It doesn't open. It's actually going into the key hole, but it's not open. So when the real thing is trying to bind, you can't. You can't bind. So you have those two nutrient deficiencies, EDCs, and then you have the third one, disaging, which is-- we're not getting any other. Years are passing, right? And aging is considered a disease. And it's more problematic than smoking, alcohol, and obesity combined. That is actually a fact. It's actually a fact. But they have a ICD contract for it, right? Diagnosis code R54. So the lethality is 100%. That's what I'm saying. We looked it up, and I think it was around since-- 90s. 90s, something. But doctors don't know what to do with it. OK, what I do with this diagnosis code, how do you treat aging? It's a very complex-- And look, from an economic perspective. The transhumanist are crazy, but I just don't buy into it. I don't think you can treat aging. But I don't think you can cure aging. No, no, no. And that's not what we're suggesting. But here's what we are suggesting. I think we've all had the experience where you've seen a friend of yours that you haven't seen a long time ago. Or a acquaintance. And you're like, when you leave the meeting, you're like, holy shit, that guy looks like he's 60. What happened to that? Or the-- Or the reverse. Yeah. Oh my god, have you seen Jane? She looks amazing. I mean, for 50, she looks like a rock star. She looks like 30, right? What is that? It's a very simple, balanced economy. Like, take NAD, for example. People are like, oh, NAD plus. So look, what happens with NAD? The highest peaks of NAD production come when we're really young, right? In our adolescence. That's why we have an abundance of energy when we're young, but what is your demand from life at that age? Every responsibility. You have no mortgage. You have no kids. You have no payments. You have nothing. You're at home living, going to school, which is also paid for. You're probably just chasing tail and thinking about video games, right? And then, as we leave the nest and we go into adulthood, what happens? That transaction flips. Now we have half the resources, half the NAD, which produces ATP and all this stuff. He's just talking about one molecule. Yeah, just one molecule. We have half the resources double the demand. What is your demand in adulthood? Gotcha. You know, kids, mortgage, business, mom and dad are getting sick. Oh my god. And you have less margin of error. So you're on your pressure, low sleep, all this stuff. And you have less resources. So think you matter from a company's perspective, is if you're duplicating or quadrupling your expenses and half the revenue is coming in-- Of course. That's bankruptcy, man. And so the body works the same way. It's just a lack of resources over time. And now you have to compound this effect. And because we've aged forever, right? You've got to compound this effect with these two, which is endocrine disrupting chemicals and nutrient deficiencies, which is a really big fucking problem. This is why we're treating. And we've had the really awful decision to make with parents to put 18 and 19 year olds on HRT because they had no hormones. This is not a genetic thing. Our genes didn't change that fast. So these external factors are accelerating aging, basically? Absolutely. Absolutely. So we call it the accelerated rate of entropy. Right. Everything is reaching entropy. Everything is going to prune at one point. But the way we age in our 20s is completely different than in our 40s, completely different in our 60s, especially once you hit your 80s. So a shoelace has that plastic cap. So it doesn't fray. As we get older, the telomere enzymes, basically short and short and short and short. And that's why you're more prone to disease and getting sick. And then I like to-- I was talking to him yesterday about Einstein about the relativity theory about time. And it makes a lot of sense. So for example, I want to use one simple measure, which I've got to get Brian Johnson credit for it, because he really is showing that with the basics, you can really move the needle. Like he's not doing any-- he's not doing any of these. Couple compounds, but mostly just natural. So he says, if you drop your heart rate by-- well, no, he doesn't say he showed the science. If you drop your heart rate by five beats before going to bed, an hour or two hours before, you're going to have a phenomenal sleep. But my point with that, let's say your heart rate is 50. We're in the 40s. That's athlete. Anything 40 to 45, you're like professional athlete, right? So this is a 40 BPM? I'm at 45, 48. Wow. I'm low 40s. So I'm going to-- we'll talk about training the muscle skeletal system, but also your cardiovascular system. Nobody really thinks of the cardiovascular system. And you get that one strong. And you're going to be actually stronger when you're lifting weights. Yeah, sure. So if you have 55 beats per minute, and you drop into 50 beats per minute, well, five times 60 minutes times 24 hours times 365 days, that's 2,680,000 beats. Not much. Multiply by 10, 26 million. Multiply by 20. Now you got 50. Imagine you drop by 10 rates. Now you got 100 million beats. Just mathematically speaking. This is adding to your lives. If you reduce the amount of pulses you're having because you're pulsing in one minute. If you have less beats, it means you're moving the same amount of blood with less pulses because you got a stronger heart. So just from a mathematical perspective, if you're beating faster, you're accelerating that rate of entropy, right? So time is really relative. We have a chronological age, right? You're 67. I'm 40. He's 45. He didn't catch it. He didn't catch it. Why am I so? I was just saying. I was pretty good. We got to take care. We'll talk about 8.2 regenerate your pre-phase. We're going to get there. But the point is there's that rate, right? So one of the biggest factors that affects our rate is also your stem cell production, which we're going to talk about a way to actually stimulate 46% more stem cells into circulation by working out your bones, which nobody talks about. And your bones are actually metabolic. So when you're born, you have one stem cell for every 10,000 by the time you're a teenager, one in 100,000 by the time you're 31 and a quarter million, by the time you're 51 and 400,000, by the time you're 81 and 2 million. So this is not a linear rate. This is an exponential. And that's just stem cells, which is stem cells are your recovery mechanism. That's what you got to think. No stem cells? You don't recover, right? So there's many other things which we can touch, but it's just so you get an idea if you're smoking, if you're parting, and you're still stuck in your 20s and your 40s or 50s, you're accelerating that rate. So it's how do we slow it down so we can shield ourselves? And so going back to the original question, it's like somebody calls us and it's like, we can't help ourselves. Like we know all of these variables because we've seen so many people cross through a door, thousands of people from different different ages, like backgrounds, different diets, lifestyle, stress management level, like all of these different variables, right? And so what we've tried to do is come up with a system and sort of like a scientific method. Like we wanted to come up with replicable results. Hey, if I do these things, my chances of these averages are here, right? And so, and again, we're, you know, the thing that we've learned, you know, diving deep into genetics is that we are truly every single person is truly unique. You know, and the boy knows his number. So we'll talk about like when you think about peptides, the combinations, the languages and all that stuff, how that, you know, master's, you're gonna see, we'll talk about it. We'll see how that happens. How that has to do with your genetics, but the point is we wanted to do as many things that we can do that would be replicable for as many people as possible. So I know, we know nine out of 10 people, man, we remove this, we add this to the body, we're gonna get an effect. We're gonna get certain lines turned on that we need on in order so that now, when I bring in your peptide, now I can have almost like a predictable outcome because our job ethically is, hey, man, I wanna make sure that you get really good results. Like, consider me your financial manager. Like, I wanna maximize your return, right? So if you tell me, hey, you know, I wanna, I wanna an apartment in South Beach for passive income, be like, great. Oh yeah, but you know what, every weekend, I've been going over there and pissing on the countertop and suffocating in the kitchen and throwing acid on the walls is like, dude, like, you're first of all, you're discussing, secondly, you're doing something on purpose that's like taking you away from the goal, right? So we have to manage these things, right? So I like that when people come through our doors, we push them back and be like, look, this is not an adult candy shop. Sure. So what, you can have all this stuff, but can we talk about longevity first? Yeah, hit me. So I'm the guy that walks through, I'm 300 pounds, addicted to sugar, I want help, like, what's the path? The path is first, I mean, obviously, we do, you know, biochemical check, just to kind of see what we're working with from a surface level, right? Because we don't need to go into the whole genetics thing to figure it out. Before, before he says that, because take them through the process, but I wanna disclose something that most people will never talk to you about. And to be transparent, we discovered about a month ago about blood work that there's a difference between immunosays and high-performance liquid chromatography over double mass spectrometry, which is running sort of a two-step verification, the same thing to make sure that the molecular structure what you're testing or whatever hormone or vitamin actually matches. So all blood work is sent from immunosays, which what that means is that it is an indirect measure of what we're looking at, no matter what biomarker you're looking at. They're using antibodies to see the response of that specific hormone, but it's an indirect measure. So it has room for error. It's some can be 10% margin of error, some can be 30% margin of error. So you're negating a direct measure. So unless you get a test, lap-corporping quest and most of these big labs, by default, they use immunosays because it's cheaper and faster. - Yeah, see. - So it's much more expensive to actually get the accurate measurements, right? So starting from the get, starting from the bat, wherever you go, whatever practice, ask them if they're doing immunosenscence or high performance liquid chromatography or mass spectrometry. First of all, most people don't even know what that means. - Yeah, exactly. 99.9% are not doing that. - They're not doing it. So we're working with imperfect numbers and on top of it, medicine is an imperfect science. Every year, we keep discovering things. Like, I think we're just garaching the surface. Right? So we're working with the most imperfect science. So let's just first kind of put that as a disclaimer. - As a disclaimer that we're doing the best we can. So when we say we're being cautious about approaching peptides, we want you to get your best ROI. And we're working against a probability scheme here. And we don't have the technology yet to know what the hell, how are your gene sequence? What's off? What snips you have? What mutations do you have? We don't know. So we're kind of throwing things at it, right? Based on the protocols in the medical literature, based on what we have, we're doing the best with the resources we have. - That's what I call the medical practice. - Yeah, yeah, of course. - Let's call the medical practice. - Yeah, it's not clear code. So that's why we get really scared. When people are just going to have has to really buying all these products online, they have no idea what that's really doing, right? And so for us, it's really important. - They're buying the trend. - Yeah, they're buying the trend, not the science. So what, we pride ourselves in as I've looked at. I know that you're not a professional and you don't want to take 10 years to discover this and learn. I do wish that you give me the time so that you can have a basic intellectual understanding of how your body actually functions so that you can be a participant in your rescue. Because the biggest value that I can provide you is teach you how to fish. - So you're helping people be their own doctor. - 100%. - They're our own part of what a cost is. - Of course, part of our property. - Given the bio-individuality and all the medical experience. - 100%. - And so the biggest thing I hate is, - I hate to know what we're doing. - It's really well for my friend. That's why I want to get him. Like, that's retarded. - And the reason just to add, the reason why we're doing it is because we are not medical doctors. Yet we have a very successful practice. We pride ourselves in the job that we do. I mean, if you look at us anywhere online, we have an impeccable representation. And we didn't answer your question about what's our credentials. Well, we are not medical doctors. We don't have a degree in medicine or anything like that. But we are auto-dictacs where we have relentlessly self-educator ourselves through courses, through workshops, through conferences, - Work with PhDs. - With PhDs, you see the interest that we had. And then we're getting our knowledge from people who are really pushing the envelope, right? - There's a lot of things changing in the internet age, but I think this is a big one. That the people with credentials are getting way outworked and outshined. - Correct. - Carried the self-taught auto-dictacs. - Yeah. - Because it's just in a level of honesty with it. - It's much more honest. - It's also because you're hiding behind those credentials typically and there's always these stories of people like, "Oh, my doctor said to do it." It's like they're not in some unique position of authority. They act as if they are, but in the reality, they just went to medical school. They were taught a certain paradigm. One that often ignores all nutrition, all biohacking. - Yeah, yeah. - So it doesn't even matter if you guys were, like you can't say a medical doctor is someone that you would defer all of this too. You still need to be your own doctor. You could have a team of medical doctors back in you. - And that's the best you could be your own doctor. - I like to say that doctors, and I don't mean to disrespect them, but I would look at from where I'm at now because of a had-ed and I had to solve it by myself. And there was no help. Everybody's just generic stuff. Doctors from your professional mechanics. Now there's a difference between a Toyota mechanic and a Formula One mechanic. - Sure. - We like to work with Formula One mechanics as much as we can. Right, but at the end of the day, you're the engineer. You use the physician to help you evaluate and to understand what's going on. But then now that we have this incredible tool, AI, nobody has an excuse. You can fact check your doctor, and if you properly train it, you can get better answers and a doctor will ever be able to give you. You still need the doctors. Like, they have their time in place. Well, for now, I mean, based on what you must, and none of what's going on. - And the doctor also is going to replace a surgeon's, which is exciting and scary. - And we're not going to be a fucking eye over Jon's. - Periods. But I think the way we're setting it up is, you know, we are not a hormone clinic, we're not a peptide clinic. We are a lifestyle clinic. - This is an entire, we are a biohack hub. And how do you grab all the modalities, red light, cold plunging, grounding, hormones, peptide supplements, genes, cardiovascular, gut, you know, electromagnetic training, all these modalities. How do you glue them in order to perform and thrive your best? And this is where I'll let you take from here. Medicine, this is something that just, I don't know, came to me not too long ago. Medicine has to be experienced. We've been living medicine. - It's not to be experienced, of course. - For 25 years, by the way, 'cause we were performing athletes. And so we were always looking for an edge. So before we even got into the clinic, it was like, how do we get that performance edge? And dude, we listen to it. Like, you know, I can't tell you how many trial and error experiments we've had with our own Selshur, 25 years, right? And then now we're doing in the clinical environment, right? So to what Miguel was saying, I'm sorry, disappointment, the crowd. We've been talking for an hour. We haven't even gotten to the first question about peptide, right? - No, we're gonna get there. - We're gonna get there. - We have to kind of lay out the runway first in order for you to take off and experience. - Yes. - The value and the beauty and the precision of that. - I just thought that this, because, what if I told you that you could lower your tax bill and stack Bitcoin at the same time? Well, by mining Bitcoin with Blockware, you can. New guidelines from the big beautiful bill allow American Bitcoin miners to write off 100% of their mining hardware investment in a single year. That's right, a 100% write-off. So if you had $100,000 of income or capital gains, you could write off that entire amount by investing it in Bitcoin mining hardware. Blockware is mining as a service allows you to start mining Bitcoin right now with minimal effort. Blockware handles everything from securing the miners to sourcing low-cost energy to configuring the mining pool. They do it all. You can stack Bitcoin at a discount every day and save big when tax season comes. So you can get started today by going to mining.blockwaresolutions.com/breedlove. Again, that's mining.blockwaresolutions.com/breedlove. Where I've arrived at, I mean, partly influenced by you guys. Starting with the science, it's very useful, like which things you should do. But then once you get going, that anecdotal data to me is probably the most important. Right? Like you can tell me, "Oh, this is the thing you should do. This thing you should do when I do it." When I do it and it doesn't feel right or something, it's like, "I go on the way I want it to." Like, that's the most important feedback for me. Intuition. Intuition. Well, medicine has to be experienced. It's not to just be prescribed. Yes. So as a doctor, if I was a doctor, I should not be prescribing drugs that I wouldn't take myself. And unfortunate doctors are prescribing stuff. They wouldn't take themselves. But why? And I don't mean to bash any doctors or speak about them because we work with them and we think they're very valuable. Now, the unfortunate part, and you love this because you go back to the Rockefeller all these punishments. It comes from money. If you trace down medicine, it comes from the money. If you follow the money, if you follow the money, you can see that medicine, which is another product, and unfortunately, when you go to school, you don't have time to rebuttal or object what's on those books. You don't graduate. So the question you need to ask yourself, who wrote those books? Who's influencing those books? Big pharma. There's a big incentive. That's why symptomatology is a big part of medicine. Find a simple pill for a meal approach. Right? Right. So whatever I can prescribe for, that's what we're going to do. Yeah. So many ways. There's so much crossover. That's what we're going to do. Gerstik is one another hour. I'm sorry. Finish my path. Just because I know he won't let me go. It's the same principle, by the way, that is the economics textbooks. Yes. Right. The central bank is trying to take some. Of course, money printing is authorized and necessary. It's like, you're the one that wrote the book. The toolbox they have is based on symptoms and diagnostics. You go to a conventional insurance based doctor. Are you sure to breath? Are you depressed? Have you had your screening? Have you had your flu shot? These are the type of questions you're getting. And based on those questions, this is their bibo. And then they have to go to residency. What not all of them do. So what makes a doctor board certified versus just a doctor is that the board certified went to residency. I think it's two or three years for newer surgery. You have to go six years. Where they are. You're being enslaved. You're being slaves. You're being slaves. You've been in the process. You've been in hours a day. Right. And then you're going to be able to get a doctor. your division at this side, we got to treat your deficiencies. There's very, so, just make you can talk about that. And then there's, all right. Take them through tier 1, to tier 3, and then we can get into peptides. Yeah. So sequencing. So there's very few peptides on an initial conversation. Right. There's a time and place and there's exception for, we can actually we should talk about testosterone. I think it's so incredibly important. I mean, look, I think, go ahead. Just, just having started, because I did injectable TRT with you guys, whatever, a year or so ago. But after three weeks, it was like too much. Yeah. Like, this is, I don't need this right now. And plus we were trying to get pregnant. So it's like, I just chilled out. I just started again, five weeks ago. And I guess I'm like at a better dose now or something, but man, the mental clarity. Yeah. Holy shit. And the, the, the way that it makes productive effort feel so good, my, my work game, my work ethic, my productivity has just gone through the roof, which is not a benefit people talk about. And we talked about this. Yeah. And, you know, I think it's, and it's an amazing point. Because people oftentimes correlate testosterone with aggressiveness. And it's the opposite. Yeah. Like it makes you better able to deal with the stress and find the stressor. You're actually a lot more calmer in the storm. Yes. Yeah. It's actually people with the testosterone that get freaked out or struts out of their mind. Exactly. Again, low resources, lots of demand. Yeah. Same demand with a lot more resources. Right. Yeah. You're more flimsy in a way. Yeah. Kind of like your, your attitude, your grit, the way you show up in the world is a, if you're lower T, you're just going to be more of a leaf in the wind. I just feel and I think I think the most beautiful thing. Are you taking magnesium by any chance? Yeah. Okay. Well, we're getting to that. I think that the most beautiful thing that happened as of a month ago, right? Because January 10th. Yeah. testosterone. I mean, sorry. Disseverate. Yeah. testosterone has been demonized for 87 years. It's funny enough 35,000 people roughly die from Tylenol use a year. Zero die from testosterone. Right. Yeah. It's about, it's about 16,000 from Nusselroidial NSAIDs. And then Benzl, the acid piece sleeping is about 15,000. Yeah. Take it from there. And then testosterone. How many have that from testosterone? Nothing. So the most beautiful therapeutically monitored use, professional, anything. Yeah. Anything abuse, of course. So which by the way, just for context, like that's 15 times what we would use therapeutically. Like bodybuilders use about 15. Wow. 15x. 15x. So just to give you perspective, right? 15x water will kill you. Exactly. So, so I think the most beautiful thing that happened is this now new position from the FDA. And I know how you feel about three-letter agencies. But look, they control the world, right? So the thing that the thing that I liked is that they came out and they said, we apologize. We've been dikeads for 30 years. And we've slowed down the advantage of health benefits for people by demonizing testosterone, putting black box warnings that it causes hard disease or prostate cancer. I mean, dude, Abraham Morgan and Tyler, right? With the head of urology for, you know, the Harvard went on there and said, listen, after 35 years of research on this and me being the specialist, the best specialist in the world, even if you had metastatic prostate cancer, it wouldn't do shit if you took testosterone. Basically, right? And so now for anybody watching this, I advise you, the FDA has now caught up and now they have a YouTube channel. Go to the YouTube channel and look up at their new position on testosterone, right? And the reason why I say that is because 95% of the people that come through or doors talking about peptides and not hormone replacement, which that should come first because if your hormones are fucked up, peptides are not going to do anything. You know, they come with really bad misconceptions about what testosterone does, what it doesn't do, the dangers, the side of all this stuff. And it's all been just lies, just straight up lies. It's kind of like the food pyramid thing, right? Like people thought they should eat grains mostly for so long. Oh, no, they flipped it. I know they flipped it. They flipped it. That was going to be my question. Is this the RFK effect or like? I think so. Guys 71, ripping pull-ups. Yeah. And he's an aeroport. He's on testosterone. He's open about it, you know, it's part of it. But Abraham Morgan, Tyler, who's a urologist and a researcher and he's been studying for 30 years. Let me just give you in 30 seconds, the recap. First of all, in the 1880s around there, I forgot. We were injecting to stickler from other animals. From other animals, we were injected to testosterone, which is very dangerous. Then in 1935, we synthesized testosterone for the first time from cholesterol. You need cholesterol. Then there's more things that happen. But then in 1990, testosterone was used in the Olympics as a performance enhancement drug. It scared the audience and then they classified as a schedule three as a lifestyle substance that can be addictive. Performance enhance. Performance enhance. So they put it as a schedule three. So when we went when our doctors prescribed testosterone, they need a DEA license to be able to prescribe the schedule drug, right? Peptas are not on a schedule. Right. So it makes it more difficult to get your hands on. Right. So then in 2002, the Women's Health Initiative came about a board, which 40% of post-parameter palsal women were taking hormones. When this initiative came out, saying that women can have breast or uterus cancer, it dropped to 1.8%. Now we're at roughly 8%, 9%. It's still there. Meaning we are 40% of post-parameter palsal women's they dropped to 1.8 after that. Right. And now, you know, what is that? 24 years later, it's like at 8 or 9%. So I did women postmenopausal need testosterone. Perry and postmenopausal, they don't menstruate. - Yes. - First of all, it was just a social. And a pro-jashorn-assure. - I sure, many. - But they also need to supplement with a social. - Oh, yeah. - In fact, I watched the women's health initiative because they have it on the FD website. Really recommended it for your women. - Women, I mean, the reason why he's asking is, 'cause it wasn't clear. So the who came out and said, hey, hormones cost cancer for women, which now they've worn bad, - Right, right, right, right. - Because they were using synthetic hormones. - Okay. - They weren't using bio-identum hormones, through a year's act, they were using Mair's urine, which is horse's urine, but horses produced nine different estrogenic metabolites, only of three that are human. - They're using horse psphiltrocystaminated. - No, no, no, they were using Mair's urine to synthesize estrogen, but the estrogen that was being synthesized, carried estrogens that are not natural to the human body. Nine metabolites, estrogenic metabolites, estrodal, estrone, estrow, are human. The rest are natural. - Or horse. - And they were injecting that into women, and then they did the study, and a bunch of them got cancer. - And because they were using synthetic estrogen, which was called premerin, which, believe it or not, is still being used. - Premerin. - And then progestin, which is a synthetic form of progesterone, but what has been showing that bio-identical hormones, and that's synthetically derived from different animals that are vegetable or egg-yam-based, have never been shown to produce any form of disease. - Which is why they walked back. - Wait, we know we're going, I'm taking so, from the 2002 Women's Health Initiative, it went from 40% of what, meaning you went to the hospital, you have menopause right there, and then they were prescribing your hormones, even in hospitals. This is what I'm gonna tell you. - Yeah, for a shock about it, hospitals were doing this. - And then it dropped to 1.8% because of the fear of the study that is causing urine cancers to stop taking the hormones. So 40% of women who were taking it dropped to 1.8%. - Wow. - Now it's up to 8%. Then in 2000-- - And women self plummeted. - Yeah. - And in 2006, which by the way, I didn't know that the number one cause of death in women is cardiovascular disease. - Which goes up three ex and post-menopausal women. - Yes. - Three ex immediately when you go through menopause, your chances of getting heart diseases, three ex. - Yeah, think about that for a second. - It's like one in 32 women. Once you have menopause, it drops to like 1.2.8. Is this some crazy number like that. But the point is, 2016, the Mayo Clinic and the Harvard University came out with their medical consensus, their uptake consensus, which was, so you have an idea of how complex this was and how robust it was. It was four different specialties, urology and radiology, cardiology and reconology. - Specialties. - Five different concepts. For 17 countries, 26 research and medical institutions were involved and they gave their medical consensus on testosterone, which the testosterone is a well documented significant medical condition to testosterone deficiency increases your risk of all cause mortality, diabetes and metabolic syndrome, which metabolic syndrome is the gateway to every other chronic major disease that we know, testosterone therapy does not cause prostate nor cardiovascular disease nor prostate cancer. And what else? testosterone therapy should be tailored individually to the patient's symptoms, and that just based on a number. - There's no age limit. - Global public health concerned, considered a global public health concern in 2015. - So for every influencer and every person says, "Oh, you know what it is?" It's been considered a global public health concern by all of these specialists internationally, five different continents as a consensus for 10 years now. - And I skipped one part, I'm so sorry, big huge part. Dr. Charles Huggin, who in the 1940s, did a study on three patients, flat study, three patients. - Three patients. - I'm not gonna get into details, but basically two were throwing out because they just had a radical-- - They didn't qualify. - One was castrated. - Yes. - So it was based on one patient who, they were testing at the time something called acid phosphatase, which is a marker that has been used in like eight years that is irrelevant, but when given to Sasha, this acid phosphatase went up and it increased the prostate accellerated the cancer. Based on this flat study, it lingered till today. - Since the 40s. - This is the, this individual. - I was like, what the fuck? How does that, you did a study on one guy? - One guy. - One guy, 80 years later. - One guy, 80 years later it changed. - But that sounds like propaganda. - No, no, no, no, no. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. This is 1940s we're talking about. World War II. - This guy got a Nobel Prize. - Nobel Prize. - In the 1960s. - So nobody really knew to sauce him. Nobody was gonna challenge him. Nobody was really doing this. And to answer it, nobody really had a deficiency back then. - Mm-hmm. - Could point that. - We were metabolically strong. It's biologically strong, right? We weren't weak. So that lingered around for, what is that? That's the 40s. That's almost seven years. And then in 2013, the Finco study came out saying the black box warning onto sauce him that he could cost cardiovascular disease a year later another one called the vegan study in 2014, which now have been completely debunked. So 2016, the study that I just said, the 26 medical research institutions, 17 countries basically came out with this consensus. One more to that consensus that when, which was updated when the sea hit, I don't even say because they can shut this out. When the sea hit, those who had optimal-- - We call it the pandemic. - The pandemic. - The pandemic. - I like that. - I like that. - Yeah, the pandemic. - So those who had optimal testosterone, the risk of dying slash by half versus those who had low testosterone levels. Then in 2023, the Traverse trial came out, which was the first like double-blind, placebo, randomized control study, which is gold standards, I think it's silver, there's three of them, but it's up there. And it was a huge population showing that testosterone doesn't have a cost cardiovascular disease. - That's right. - It's available now. - So I read 2018, I forgot. The Eurology Association, the American Eurology Association in 2018 came out with their Emeriting Eurology Association testosterone deficiency guideline showing that having testosterone under 300 level nanograms per deceditor, put you at risk of cardiovascular disease. - Well, no, the actual, like you can actually go on their website. You can go to your Relogy Association's website, article number 13, right on the front page. You can just scroll down, you go to Article 13, it says guidance for testosterone deficiency. And it's basically the American Eurology Association telling all of the Eurology's in the nation, you should make your patients aware that anybody under 300, their drastic increase for cardiovascular risk. So it's not high testosterone that causes cardiovascular disease. - Oh, low testosterone. - So going back to the original question, the reason why we're very adamant about testosterone, it's not because we want to push the stochronis this whole thing. I think you're the greatest voice for this because most doctors will look at you, right? And be like, this guy's huge. - Yeah, I'm sure. - He's already intimidating as it is. - There's no way that this guy needs stochron. He has muscles in his ears. Like what are we talking about here, right? You know, he has a lot of ears in the 90s. Like why are we doing this? - But just the reason I did it with you guys, my tea was good, it was like 850. - Right, yeah. - But my free tea now was a little low. - Because of your sexual moment in globbin, which is biny, yes. - Which most labs don't check. I mean, you know, companies in our space, obviously they know this now, but just on the traditional side, they won't test your free testosterone. - And that's the one that matters most. - That's what I'm always saying. - All the matters. And you, I mean, I feel the difference. - Yeah, honestly. - To go to your point is, and for anybody watching this that wants to talk about peptides, it's like, look, wait, wait, wait. 2023, now 2025, December 10th, they come out. - They walk back everything. - Wait, wait, no, I recommend all of you. - Every single one person. - We've been in this industry for almost 15 years. I recommend all of you to go watch it because it looked like when we go to conferences and we look at a medical presentation, do they were putting grass in our, this is how I told you the whole thing since 1935, they went from 1935 till today and beat the hell out of all the flawed studies. - That is not the FDA's on them. - This is an epidemic, and this is why testosterone is not only scientific and evidence-based, but it's also logical and effective and safe. - And but just one other thing to throw in there, I don't know, again, it's like, it's anecdotal observation from my perspective, and you have a really good intuition. - Well, look at the guys that abused the shit out of testosterone steroids, whatever, right? You've got Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzer, these guys are still making their 70s, their 80s, their 90s. - And they're banking it. - Right? So it's like, and those are the guys probably run in 15x or 10 or whatever, like at one point. - But we're crazy number. - We're gonna get to so one-weather age. - Oh, we're gonna smoke them. - Yeah, we're so, so for everybody watching. - Just like that's anecdotal evidence that it's not this lethal thing. - Of course. - You tell us how much testosterone you're gonna die. - Of course. - How the hell would Sylvester Stallone be in his 80s? - Yeah, and the anecdotal evidence. - And he's still on it, by the way. - 100% he's on it. - 100% he's on it. So I always like to say, hey, if you remember the Renaissance period, you'll see the guys, the representation that the painters were making of the guys, the warriors of those times, which by the way, weren't eating every day, they weren't pumping, you know, weights, and there certainly weren't injecting peptides. They look like Greek gods, right? You look at the guy, the average guy in the mall today, what does that look like? So these levels, we had 3,000 levels of testosterone. So these levels, look at Roman Empire. I mean, our sculptures. But the point that I'm trying to make and what we advise every, the reason why this is really important for us that have been in the industry for so long is because we're in the front lines dealing with the massive, - We see the reality. - Misinformation, all of this stuff. And so if you really wanna do your research, Antistotrall, you only need to go to one place. You need to go to the December 10th FDA. - Which by the way, it's not the FDA talking. They brought all of the specialists at our board that had done the dirty work for three decades to tell you on the different subjects. You wanna talk about cardiovascular disease? Let's talk about that. You wanna talk about immunosuppressing? You wanna talk about fertility? You wanna talk about every section that testosterone changes and touches. Let's talk about that and let me give you the reality. - Completely debondent. - And so man, go, go, going back to you. And why we're so animate about testosterone is because we have endocrine and the disruption chemicals. That's a reality. We're seeing it every day in our practice. And as ethical practitioners, we're saying, hey, you want peptides, yeah? - I can sell you $5,000 peptide, like a $5,000 super, like a lead peptide therapy that won't do half of what a $300 testosterone therapy will do from every single system in the body from immunological optimization to cardiovascular optimization to brain stimulation, everything that you can think of. You wanna talk about longevity, you wanna talk about disease prevention, you wanna talk about performance, you wanna talk about energy and mental clarity. $300 of testosterone will do it versus $5,000 of peptides. - Totally makes sense. And it's, you know, the peptides are great, but they are. - They are. - Well, the testosterone is in a whole other lead, - That's a whole other category. - The decoration to the home. - Yes. - But the infrastructure is the testosterone supplements. - The way that we like to say it is, you know, HRT is the trunk of the tree, the supplements, the resources, - HRT. - 8-wheel, hormone replacement. - Yes, that's not true. - We like to say, hormone optimization, right? - Yeah. - Hormone optimization. 'Cause you don't necessarily have to be quote unquote deficient in the labs to, you know, optimize. - Yeah. - But HRT is the trunk of the tree. - Right. - The materials, the supplements, all the stuff is the nutrition for the roots of the tree. And peptides seasonally decorate the breasts. - Yeah, okay. - Yeah, that seems right. - Right? - Yeah. - And so, when someone calls us about peptides, we're like, "Oh, I don't know, I don't know." Unless you're telling, send me a picture, man. Unless you're telling me, your labs look amazing, you look amazing, and you're ready, let's go. - Yeah. - There are a few-- - Remember the labs look amazing, but what does that actually mean? - What does that mean? - Even if you, like, I wasn't that bad, a shame. When I came in, I just, you're off. - You're stuck. - You know what? And I didn't, again, you don't know. - Right. - Like, I come in, I'm like, "Oh, I'm fine." I tested my teeth before, I know I'm gonna be fine. I feel fine, I work hard, I work out all these things. Like, you see the science, and you're like, "Oh, wait, this is actually a little low." And then you start taking it, and you feel, "Bowly shit." - Like your lights come back on. - And the, like, just, not, again, I don't sell to this hospital, and I don't care if you take it or not, but like just a personal anecdote, it really seems like my productivity is so much higher now. - I'm like, "This is real." - It's real. - It's real. - It's $200 a month. I don't know, I pay me spent $200 a month. - $200 a month. - $200 a month. - My earnings potential has at least doubled. - At least. - Like, by the way, the enjoyment of that potential. - Which is why the potential is doubled. 'Cause I'm like, I'm hungry, I wake up, I woke up at 448 this morning. I'm like, "Let's go, let's go, let's go." (laughing) - Let's get it. So, you know, there is a time and place for a certain peptide that we use prior to this to get leverage. Like, you know, tercepatide. I mean, Jesus, this thing is what an amazing technological advancement that we have at a compound that can solve a lot of problems really quick and give someone momentum. Right? But there's also, you know, BPC and these things, when you have an injury, you wanna instruct the body to do this quicker, especially if you're older, right? But, you know, we always tell you, "Hey, you're gonna do tercepatide without these things, "you're gonna lose muscle." - Sure. - So, you have to do the materials. You wanna repair your bones and all stuff, you gotta have the materials. So, you know, going back to this original question, like, look, for us as ethical practitioners, let's go into the original question. - Let's go in order. - Let's go in order. - Let's go in order. - What I'm gathering is like the 300 pound guy comes in. Hey, what's going on? First thing, how's your testosterone? - Yeah, my testosterone. - My heart's about chemistry in general. - So, do the blood work. Also, guess, check his lifestyle. All right, what are you doing when you go to the gym? - The fundamentals where he spoke about. - Life environments. - Yeah, nutrition. - But then, the first intervention, if you call it an intervention, is testosterone, because testosterone is structural in this metaphor. - Correct. - So now, let's say he's done that. He's on the T's, do on the gym, three days a week. He's getting sleep and sun, and I don't know, good nutrition. Like, what are the next steps in the process? - Right, so, let me just, one little caveat before we get there, 'cause we're almost at the original question. Now, we're gonna have later. - But one thing, which is what is a peptide? - But I wanna remind people this, 'cause look, you can go anywhere. You don't have to come to us. - Yeah. - Here's what I wanna tell you. Like, if you're looking into peptides, just by nature tells me that you want an edge. You wanna feel better. There's a bunch of things you wanna perform better, whatever it is. So, we take the assumption, all right, that when you call us, you want to be in that top two to one percent of healthiest individuals in America. And America's not doing very good. - That's not when it comes to this, right? - It's not a high bar. - But we take the assumption, because that's what I want for you. - Yeah. - I want you to be crushing it, right? So, we take the assumption that you wanna be in that top one to two percent. So, it's very important for people, because, you know, like, "Oh, my testosterone was fine. "I was an 800. "What would it affect us that even mean?" So, I want people to understand, really quickly, I'm not gonna go into, like, you know, complex stuff. But, what did these labs mean? So, how do we gather these numbers? So, this is really interesting, 'cause I realized there's a couple of years ago, and that's what we've been telling our doctors like, "Dude, labs almost don't mean shit. "It's just little guideposts that we use." So, every single year, lab core quests, access labs, all these conglomerate labs, they go out and they say, "You have, as you can imagine, "imense databases." They say, "Hey, Robert, you know, "come down to our facility, "we'll give you a movie ticket and a free cheeseburger "so we can collect your labs." So, you can imagine the people that are going there, okay? So, they collect about 10,000 people at most, okay? And this is what they're saying that represents 350 million Americans. - Wow. - Okay. Now, I could swallow that, right? If you're telling me that the rats that you are studying are rats that are healthy. But let's consider the state of the average American. - Oh, dude. - Four, you know, three out of four Americans are considered obese, half the countries in prediabetic conditions. 93% of Americans have come kind of metabolic dysfunction on a bunch of different drugs. Collestral, blood pressure, ED, I mean, it's a disaster, right? Here's what people don't know though. When they come up with their averages, and I'll tell you, most doctors don't even know, when they come up with the averages, this is not like a medical board that gets together every year and says, "Hey, how are we gonna decide to change these numbers?" 'Cause these numbers have been changing every year. They've been dropping. - They've been dropping. - So, they go out and they say this, okay. So, we're gonna collect these 10,000 people, we're gonna do the averages, you know, 30 year old male, 45 year old black male, whatever, right? They put them in categories, and here's what they do. So, those averages, when you see lab ranges, that is 95% of that 10,000 group, 95% and here's the key point. - Which, what that means is a two standard deviation, which is, it makes up 95% of the population, what happened to the other five? - Yep, so here's what happened to the other five. They caught off the bottom two and a half percent of the results, meaning the worst people. But they also caught off the top two and a half the percentage of the microtorings, the Tom Brady, the LeBron James. So, when you go to a doctor and be like, "Hey, I wanna feel better," you know, "Optimizing, I wanna crush it." They don't even know what that means. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause we don't know that two and a half percent of what it looks like. - Just an example number, and correct me where I'm wrong here, but I think it's above 250 normal testosterone and the normal, 263 is normal, right? - 263, you're in the range. - But earlier you were saying the urologists, right? Below 300, you've got all this higher propensity for all these disease. - Correct. - So like this standard is shit. - Right, like 263 to 997. So whether you hit the bull's eye or the outer edge of the target, whether you're 20 or 90 years old, you're okay. - You're okay, right, right, right, right. - So the urologist is still-- - That makes no scientific sense. - And so you ask the great question. Why are the differences in the number? So the urologist society, I mean sorry, the endocrinologist society says, "Whatever the lowest number of whatever lab is performing these ranges, whatever they come up with this 10,095% all this bullshit, whatever the lowest number they come up with, that's what we're gonna consider low testosterone." So they put it up and they leave it up to the lab and they leave it up to the population, not them as medical professionals. And then the urologist society because urologists are getting these labs and Quest said one thing, like what someone said, Axis said one thing, and they're like, "Dude, we're just gonna choose an even number. Let's call it 300." - One of my highest health priorities is keeping my brain in top shape. To take care of my brain power, I do many things, such as striving to read, write, exercise, and meditate daily. One of the latest tools in my brain power toolkit is Mind Lab Pro. 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So these averages, and forgive, this may sound terrible, but they're kind of scraping the bottom of these hierarchies, of human hierarchies, like, hey, people that are really out of shape come in here and get your labs done, and we're gonna call this average for everyone else. - 'Cause it's like, holy shit. - So, if you're considered normal, I have no interest in measuring myself up against them. - Yes, exactly. - That's not even a bar. - Right, exactly. - That's not even a bar, right? So I wanna, what does Tom Brady look like? - Yeah, what does Michael Jordan look like when he was 35? - Yeah. - That's what I wanna look like. - Yeah, right? So anyways, now we've arrived at peptides, yeah? - No, we've found a new one. - Oh, shit. (laughing) - But it's fast forward the tape a little bit. How much time we got, so I can make sure we fit forward. We said we'd leave it six, so we got about an hour 30. - Okay, perfect. Then we got time. You can get all in. All right, so we're gonna talk a little bit of, before we hit the supplements, just, just tier one, two, three, three, kind of like just, - Yeah, so like a way, but before we do that, I just wanna touch that when you take to the sauce room, most people are not considering that you're shutting down something called the HPA axis. Hypothonymous pituitary to sick. There's a feedback loop between your testes and your hypothonymous pituitary going down to your testes. So when you take to the sauce room, you're shutting down not just the sauce room, you're shutting down, you're gonna the tropic releasing hormones like luteinizing hormone, follicle-symmin hormone, which are not just helping your testes to produce a natural tea, but has other longevity effects for the body. You're also shutting down neuroprotective steroids like Pregnimo and the AGA, which when you take the sauce from long-term six months or above, this HPA axis is completely suppressed. And what happens is these neuro steroids drop, and these two, DHA and Pregnino are responsible for 35 other neuro steroids. And when you take to sauce room, you say you have that mental clarity, it's because the most amount of the sauce from receptors are in your brain, your heart, and your musculoskeletal system. So that's why they're nourished, but you're leaving out the ones that are neuroprotective and are preventing neurodegenerative substances. - That's why we were supplementing with those. - Yeah, we did. - And you know, you make a really great point and we'll finish this sauce room talk with that to see. - You know what I mean, you can even just add real fast, oh, but I'm not gonna gain my fertility back. - First of all, if, look, there's already been studies on this, it's already proven not only scientific with like real, real studies, but we've seen this in our practice hundreds and hundreds of times. You know, you're an example. - Mm-hmm. - Pregnant, right? - Yeah. - And you take the sauce from them. So congratulations, right? - So it's bullshit. So it's been proven that, so if you're concerned about your fertility, the only thing we're concerned with is, when do you need to be fertile? Because we can time that. Now, but this begs a deeper question because the biggest fear is, and this is no offense to anybody because I was there and most guys are to get there. It's almost like a self-war thing. Like, oh, I don't want to get on testosterone because the moment I get on testosterone, I'm gonna shut down my own production. - Mm-hmm. - Well, that's true, but not true to the extent that you're saying. Because if you get off the testosterone, even if you do nothing, clinical studies have shown it within two to six weeks, you're back online. It's not like you take testosterone and you fry your system forever. - What is it? - You do if you're taking super-physiological doses. - Yes, super-physiological doses. - You fry the whole feedback of 15-19-19-19-19. - 15-19-19. - And it takes longer, and not just two weeks, it could take some people, get take months, it could kind of like, take a while to wake up, but there's things you can do. - Yeah, if you do nothing, and I've seen guys do nothing, and they're like, "I don't even feel anything." Right? There was no lag time. - Yeah. - No, there are some guys that drag ass for a couple weeks, maybe a couple weeks. - Yeah, and everybody's different. - Everybody's different. - But the point that I'm trying to make is this. Look, if you do, so the whole thing, I don't want to start to talk to you because I'm going to be dependent on it. It's almost like a victim mentality, right? Because for that, don't take anything. Don't eat food. You need things, right? And especially with everything that we're talking about, EDCs and nutrition deficiencies. But the point is this, a leader thinks of it this way. Okay, here are the numbers. I have less testosterone than an 80-year-old. I need to perform. And you're telling me that I can take something that is considered safe by every medical institution in the world, considered effective. It's super cost-efficient. And you mean to tell me that I can go from a level 5 productivity to a level 10? - Yeah. - And stay there. The question really becomes, why the hell would I ever want to go back to the 5? - Right. - That's how a leader thinks. - Feel better and healthier and performing better. - I'm looking better. - Oh, it's like going from up to the go to the truck that's outside. - Yeah. - What's it called? - It's a pocket-lip truck. - The pocket-lip truck. - Do you think I want to get all that truck? No, right? - That truck is definitely on testosterone. - Yeah. - I think it's a way more than testosterone for guys. It always works like with their high-level guys. I'm like, hey, listen, what kind of car are you driving, man? - He's like, oh, I drive the Porsche. I'm like, why not into your Corolla? - Yeah. - That's a great metaphor. - Do you want to go back to your turtle truck? - Yeah. - He's like, no, fuck that. - Yeah. - So anyways, we're done. - We also interviewed this. - I'm sorry. - This is to your guys credit real quick, because again, peptides, way higher price, way higher margins, it's the fucking theme right now. You could just ran, be selling this shit to everyone. - Everybody's an expert on peptides. - Lord testosterone, just buy all this. But you just say, I mean, I know it's lower margin. It's been around for a long time, it's 200 bucks a month. But you point people there first. - 100 bucks a month. - 100 bucks a month. - If you're doing the testosterone by two. - 100 is like with core supplements in it. - Yeah, 100 bucks a month for testosterone, and you like able to do five times what a peptide will do for you. - Yeah, yeah. - And from a longevity perspective. - Right. So, you know, but just really quick, because of the second time, and I know you want to get there. So here's what we, like, you know, just say the Ramosa, me so they understand the, the the, because people like my fertility, okay, the science shows clearly that Ramosa, me who's a, a, a, a, a, a, urologist, urologist, who was achieved urologist from University of Miami, Harvard grad with over 300 peer-reviewed studies. This guy is, again, you know, this stuff, you know, this stuff. One of his landmark studies is that he did a study, and I think it was like 300 men who had been taken to Soshram with no testicular symptoms. Meaning, you know, H.C.G. No, I think so meaning completely suppressed over a decade, for over a decade. Got them off the Soshram, got them on H.C.G. and Clomaphine. Three times a week. The course was supposed to be run for six months. Six months. He shut down at three months because 96% of the participants recover their fertility. Fully. And that is without having a baseline or sperm on the first one. So how do we know they weren't in fertile from the beginning or in the first place? Wow. So it could be, let's say maybe one or two percent of that. Yeah. So there's a 96 minimum percent that you're going to recover your fertility. Those are pretty big odds. And we've seen it. Wow. Like anecdotally, we've seen it at a hundred percent of our patients. So your fertility does go to zero when you're on it. But you're like, I'm going to, I'm going to let Miguel do like he did an anecdotal like rat study on himself. But so based on the labs, right? So let's just say your body is used to 800 levels of testosterone. You put testosterone in the body, you go to 600, your body says, dude, we have no work here. There's plenty of stuff. Matter of fact, let's go to feed you women working for 35 years. And so your system goes dormant, it goes into hibernation mode. And so when you shut down the testosterone production because it's on the same axis, you will also like shut down sperm production. Or there's, they're weaker in sort of a sleep. You're still producing the limit assesses, a sperm test. That's right. When you're measuring blood, you're measuring L.A. And FSH. Remember when we said that MUNO-S is, they're still off, but they're suppressed. But it doesn't mean you completely shut down. We have hundreds of patients who have impregnated their wife while there's not, there be not wanting too much. And a lot of guys also, they microdose the HCG while on the testosterone, and they're still fertile. Yeah, but then you can also shut down the HPA with you using the HCG non-stop. You were one of them. You were one of them, like remember when you looked at every one of them, the people being on forever. Very, very sensitive people. No, I've been on for three months, I think. You know, when I met you, you had been taking her for a very long time. No, three months. But I was suppressed. You were suppressed. And three months of HCG, I showed down three weeks in two. I see. So the point of, first of all, it takes three months to mature sperm. Yeah. I was injectable testosterone, which is the one that suppresses you the most. And I did a sperm test. Three weeks before the sperm test, I started shooting myself up with HCG and HMG, which is human, human metabolic pulse, or going to the relin. Get it bitched up. I just wanted to see if I can produce. I came back with 306 million sperm. That's a lot. And I had a lot of blood. And I was at the end of the year. I was at the end of the year. Yeah, the fact that we got to want to Sasha, but we got to talk about some key summits. Why ask you about the magnesium this time? One hour warning. Yes. No, no, no, no. This is going to be rapid fire. So let's try to go through to your one through to your supplement. I'll just start real fast magnesium. Whenever you're prescribing to Sasha, you need to be on magnesium. Clarinated. Glacinate. Glacinate. Yeah, most people recommend now three in eight because it actually crosses the blood brain barrier. No other magnesium can do that. So it can really help for sleep. But the glycinate, bisclicinate, which has a double glycine molecule, actually calms your central nervous system down. So testosterone puts you on the sympathetic puts you fight or flight. And the problem is that testosterone, the spark plug to create the enzymatic combustion for testosterone to do its effect of everything you're experiencing. They relies on an enzyme called 17 beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase. That is actually the name. That's a mouthful. Yeah. So that enzyme is responsible for sparking and catalyzing the magical effects behind testosterone. The problem is that roughly 75% of the population has a deficiency or an insufficiency. So when you put testosterone, as my brother always says, your Toyota Corolla consumes much less gas than when you floor a Ferrari. So when you go from Toyota Corolla and you step in a Ferrari and now you're revving the end, you're going to gym and you're producing. You're like, moving. I'm waking up at 4.45 in the morning. You're depleting these levels and that's why you become anxious. You become irritable. You start having insomnia. And people are like, "I'm going to testosterone to make it be aggressive." And other stuff is like, "No, dude, you ran out of oil for 100 miles an hour in the freeway. What do you expect?" So a couple of things that you want to know about magnesium is, first of all, at least a little bit more about 40%, but at least 40% of all the enzymatic reactions in your body, which is roughly about 800 diverse enzymatic reactions is magnesium dependent. For example, when we work out six out of the nine enzymes required for that workout are magnesium dependent. It's called anaerobic glycolysis. Your red blood cells rely on solely anaerobic eye causes. And if you have a magnesium and copper deficiency, your red blood cells go from 120 days on average living, which is the turnover of cells down to 20 days, which is an 84% loss in cellular lifespan. Nitric oxide production relies on magnesium, which is what creates vascular health and blood flow. The last enzymatic step to produce, like testosterone, what the last enzymatic step for ATP production, which is the universal energy currency and animal life on planet earth and what our cells need is magnesium dependent. And testosterone through the 17 beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase is you get that combustion. And the list goes on. I'm just giving you maintenance. Yeah. Anything else for magnesium or it's about no, we're going to magnesium. So, 360 milligrams before bed, I think that's what I take. If you're on testosterone, take that. Yeah, I'm on the two calm collective. Look, the therapeutic ceiling for magnesium, especially if you're on testosterone, is 2000 milligrams per day. Does that mean that you need that much? Okay. I take 1200. I know you. I know you. And you know because I just take whatever Miguel does, and multiply by 50%. I'm on my number. I don't multiply by 50%. Don't divide it by 50%. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, I'm more cool, calm collected. So I can get away with 5, 750 milligrams of magnesium per day. That's like to do everything that you just said. I know. I know. In the sergeant militant guy, he's more the diplomacy guy. Right? So, there's a different hope. He's more on the anxious side, right? And revved up, right? So guys like him need 1200, 1500 to be like manageable. And so I take 300 milligrams upon wake-up time, 300 milligrams at lunch time, because I take pills three times a day, 300 at evening, and then I take 600 before bed. So it does not make you sleepy then. It calms the central nervous system. Okay. Cool. You definitely know. If you're a type A personality, you're on the go-go-go, this stuff can get unmanageable. Like I tell him all the time, like if he doesn't take his magnesium, he's insufferable. But it's, and I'll tell you why that is though. It's not that he's broken to put up. I'll tell you what it is. He's like an old married couple. And this goes back to your point about mental clarity, crushing, and this whole thing. It's like, dude, and I'll give you a, I'll give people a warning. We know this. Our population is asleep, man. They're asleep, dude. So when you're on testosterone and you upgrade, it's like you just learn to, like you upgraded your chest skills by 10X. So you're playing chess, and the next person is like, playing checkers. You know, they don't, and you're like, dude, you become really sensitive to incompetency. You know, incompetency is rampant. Yeah. Right. So you need, and it's because you're just like seeing 15 steps ahead. And so your engine is revving, you need something to cool it down. And that's what I need. We have a product called CUM, which is magnesium, magnesium is glycinate, gamma, amino, butyric acid, which is a main inhibitory neurotransmitter because we have a glutamate and gamma, amino butyric acid, a sea salt. So right now we're producing a lot of glutamate. That's why you don't want to have intense stimulation in your brain at night because you'll produce glutamate. And it's a neuro excitatory neurotransmitter, but too much of it is toxic. And you don't need it at night. You want to get out of the gap? Yeah, the gap on night. You kind of want to have an intense conversation with a person, especially with a wife at night when you take this home. And then when you combine it with alphienine, this is where we're going to get to the stacking of peptides because it does work. The synergistic effect works much better than the standalone of magnesium by itself. So when you combine the alphienine, which is a amino acid with a gamma amino acid, gamma amino butyric acid with a magnesium, it really comes down. And you can slow down. But for the mere mortal testosterone, magnesium. But whatever you get, you're like, listen, if that's an apocalyptic scenario, you can't get your finances or messed up. Whatever you can get past that testosterone and magnesium. Yeah, that's an old shit protocol, right? And again, so cost-effective. Man, he said, "A hundred percent of us want to test on some of them." And magnesium is less than that. What do you call it? 35 bucks for like a hundred any pills. It's crazy. So the next thing, and I just want to wrap it for you because we don't have a lot of time, vitamin D. I mean vitamin D, look, we live in the sunshine state, 98% of the early test of vitamin D deficient has over 3,000 physiological responses on the body. I mean, it's endless. You know, it's definitely involved in a hundred thousand studies. It shows it reduces chances of cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, depression. And it's involved in 10 to 20% of all your genetic expressions. So everything biologically and physically that you're experiencing is 10 to 20% is vitamin D. And supplementing, because I've heard some people retort that supplementing vitamin D doesn't actually help so much. It just helps your lab results rather than those processes. That is partly true. That is partly true. And this is where we weren't about genetics. We have a break in our gene that doesn't, so our numbers look pretty. But our cells are not absorbing. They're not actually, they're not causing the genetic expression. The name to the game is when we get to test on blood, when you're looking at your labs, if everything is intracellular, correct. And we'll get there. And what doesn't get into the cell doesn't get expressed. So you can have a bunch of stuff in your blood, the serum of the blood. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it unlocked the door and express itself. That's the problem. So the body, because we don't have this testing again, and we're just being completely transparent in every other practitioner that you go through is going to do the same thing. We're kind of throwing things to see if they stay, right? But from a statistical perspective, 9 out of 10 times, when we put these things in the body, we get a reaction, right? So testosterone, magnesium, vitamin D, and the last piece to that order. And this is what I will call a minimum fundamental because of everything that we talked about, EDCs, nutrient deficiencies, and at amino acids, which really will help you just to cup one more thing that because don't let anybody fool you, the vitamin D is bad. In fact, vitamin D is a hormone. Yeah. And how? Because people don't explain that. So when vitamin D hits your skin, you have these, these receptors call seven, seven D hydrocholestero that then carry Cali calciferol, which is vitamin D. And when it hits your liver, it converts into calcidial, which is 25 hydroxy. When you see vitamin D, 25 hydroxy, your blood by that time is a hormone. Correct. But here's a catch. Vitamin D can't do its job without magnesium. Correct. You need good magnesium, reservoirs, vitamin D to do its job. That's the relationship. And then you need vitamin K to make sure that that vitamin D is not calcified within your arterial walls. It typically comes to the kids where every one thousand vitamin, international use of vitamin D, it should be maybe 50 to 100 depending on who you're talking to of 100 mites of vitamin K. Yeah. So I had a point of frustration here just because I get sun an hour a day, ish. I'm also doing the red light therapy. But you lose these, these, these seven, no, no, I go and get the receptors. That must be what it is because I go and get the test and my D is deficient. The fish might have a fuck. Yeah. We lose everything as we age. So you're losing the receptors. You can't convert cancer before you have great vitamin D levels from the sun just a lot. Right. You need to get vitamin D. So this is another essential supplement then. Oh, 100% because of what he just said, right? It becomes a hormone. So we're doing hormone replacement. Yeah. You know, vitamin D is a hormone, not just a vitamin. Yeah. And it needs magnesium in order to work. Okay. So that's the tight relationship and that's why we're building right. Yeah. We're setting the foundation. Now we're setting up the rebar. This is what we're doing. Right. And then we're not going to get into this, but Carlos and me for, you know, our high VIPs, we replaced vitamin D and K with something called snip nutrient genomics. And I've sent it to you, but if you haven't paid attention, maybe you will now snip to genomics is a genetically tatered multivitamin that covers vitamin D vitamin K. All the methylation support like trimestoglythrine, tetrahydramethyl folate vitamin B12 vitamin B6. And among many other things, but the treating 103 genes. So you saw how the vitamin D needs magnesium. Okay. And we've watched much, much more comprehensive, complete package that's literally nourishing all the gaps and cracks within. It tests for 103 genes that have been confirmed by peer reviewed peer review, long term, double blind, double blind placebo controlled studies to be genes, because you always been told, that's your genes we can't do anything about it. That's not true. We can affect the gene. We can bridge over it. Yeah. We can bridge over it like MTHFR, right? Methylate vitamins. So these are the 103 genes that you have that they formulate a compound, a formulation that is specific for you based on these genes that can be affected by nutritional supplementation targeted. So you're not guessing, right? And this is where we found out that we have a vitamin D. Don't guess. Yeah, don't guess. So anyways, to solve some major amino acids, vitamin D, we end and this is where we should best start with is amino acids. And we don't have a lot of time for this. Yeah, we're not, we're just, we'll figure it out. But that would just say which other ones, because this is really important to me. This is really important to me because I think that this is one of the most myths, informed concepts in all of health, all of it. So again, we're building the structure, right? So we start with the foundations, right? So we got, you know, TRT, but TRT, TRT is a jackhammer at the construction site, right? But not everything is a nail, right? So this is where magnesium comes in, vitamin D, which is also hormone. And then we end in amino acids and this is a very important subject because I feel like this is the most misinformed subject in all of science, all of health. And it's been around forever. You've been told, I mean, how many times have you been told Robert or, hey, you need protein, right? You need to eat a lot of protein. Okay. 0.8 milligrams to 1.6 milligrams per, and when you look at the science, propound about it, so again, a lean body mass, think about the protein industry. Just think about it for a second, right? And it's all cells in marketing, right? Because when you really look at the science, it's not protein that your body is after, right? So people, the typical question that I asked is like, hey, what do you think protein is good for? Most people are like, oh, muscle recovery. I'm like, what if I told you that that's less than 1% of what protein actually does? Right? So the distinction is not, I tell people the time, did you know that protein? First of all, can be very easily, very easily converted by your body into sugar, like meaning a steak can convert into pure sugar. It can, it can, and it's very insologenic. Right. So carbohydrates out of the, not really. It's like in your insulin, out of the three macronutrients, which is what, everything that you put through your mouth converts into one of these three things, right? Proteins, carbs, carbs, right? Protein, carbs and fats, carb, obviously we know stimulates insulin the most. Well, guess what's a close second? Protein, less than half or about half is fat. Right? So people, I say to people, I'm like, that's the first scientific fact that you need to remember. Protein can be very easily converted into sugar. And please remember that. Actually, a lot of guys that come to us that do a lot of protein supplement supplementation, guess where their hemoglobin in one C is, above prediabetic conditions, because of the amount of sugar conversion. And they're like, wait, but I don't eat any sugar. I'm like, you eat a lot of protein. Yeah. And then you don't need any other protein. You don't need any other protein. And so let's think about what does it need to make protein for? Your bone density and the form of collagen proteins. Well, when are you do become what you eat? Right. And a lot of them gets waste. Yeah. So why is it because you hold on a second, Carlos? I guess. Proteins may have the center of the fitness industry for, I don't know, 80 years. Like what are you saying? So here's why people tell you eat a lot of protein. Because when you look at the three macronutrients, right? Carbs, proteins and fats, you have essentials. We don't have essential carbs. Because your body can make glucose from anything. Your body can liquefy your muscle and turn it into a protein. That's why you call glucose to your genesis. You can convert glucose out of fat and muscle. No, I don't care. But you leave the fat as last because the fat was designed for survival. For survival. Right. So it's going to break down the muscle. Mo calories program. Mo calories program. Exactly. So, but when you look at the three macronutrients, you look at carbs, fats and proteins. Proteins have the most amount of amino acids per square millimeter. If you want to call it that, then the other two food groups. And amino acids is how your body makes all of that. Not just your muscles, but your hair, your skin. I mean, you turn your skin over every single day. You need amino acids for that. You ever see people that go on these weight loss programs and they lose their hair? Why? Because their body doesn't have amino acids to make hair, right? Because you've deprived it. So if you're going to have a protein strategy and you're going to be like, chasing protein all the time and guys like us and for the history, it's like, oh, we're concerned about muscle and we want to eat protein. You know, it's amino acids that you need to be effective on. Not protein, right? Protein becomes, when you have an amino acid ingestion, like strategy, protein becomes an afterthought. It's kind of like an extra thing that you're adding to your whole nutrition. This is supplementation. Supplementation of the essential amino acid. That branching, which turn into sugar. It's the essential amino acid. So just kind of like, you know, irreducible complexity, right? Like if I gave you a rifle without a trigger, you wouldn't be able to hit a target. Or if I gave you a guitar without strings, you wouldn't be able to play a melody. Unless you bang on the guitar. Or both without a propiter. You can't go fishing. All parts of a system need to be in place simultaneously in order for the system to have function. So the beautiful thing is that your body, as long as you give it the eight essential aminos and their proper form and quality, your body can make the rest. And let's just clarify this because a lot of people say, oh no, it's nine. And there's only 20 amino acids. It's really 22 amino acids, eight are essential, 14 are non-essential. The reason why nobody talks, they think 20 is really 22. But two of them behave like special characters, like a question mark or an exclamation mark is only used for specific conditions by specific cells. But it's really 22 amino acids. This is the full amino acid spectrum that you're talking about. Like I've heard like rice plus beans, you get the whole thing. Yeah, you get the perfect combination of protein. And this is why going back to ancestral living, right? Like think about the warriors of old. You know, they spent days without food. And they were jacked. I mean, they got all of their amino acids from the food that they were getting. But today, going back to the thing that I was, you know, when we talking about nutrient deficiencies in food, not being enough, I kind of, I like to exaggerate the point a little bit. If we're talking about that we've lost 80% micronutrients in the ground, it's almost like, hey, no matter how pretty your food looks on your plate, even if it's organic, just consider that 80% of that is going to pleasure along. Whereas before we used to get 100% nutrient density, now we're getting only 30% at best, right? That's what you need to eat a lot more food for your body to be satisfied. But when you put all of these ingredients into the body and your body is abundant, what does your body do? Your body doesn't throw a temper tantrum and say, hey, give me stuff. Your body only sends you the hunger response when you don't have enough. But when you put this in your body and you have enough and your body is abundant, your body stops begging you for shit. So what does this look like? And I've had the amino acid supplements that you got. The essential amino acids. Yeah, the one I was drinking. Is it just drinking a lot of that every day? So let me explain you something of, okay, just to touch base real fast on 10 grams of essential amino acids would be equivalent to a 4-ounce steak, which is about 30 grams of protein. And you don't need because a lot of people, a lot of bodybuilders like you got to spike insulin to get the protein inside the muscles. And that one, it's essential amino acids. They go right in because they're in a pre-digested form. So for example, whole eggs have a whole eggs have a 48% absorption rate. The rest becomes nitrogen and sugar. Sorry, Urea, which is the waste product of breaking down protein. Then meat, poultry, and fish roughly 26 to like 32%. Then vegan and way products, 16% absorption or less. I'll get into that why. And then branching amino acids, 1% or less because there's only three amino acids. You're only absorbing these amounts from the number that you're seeing on the label. And we're going to do a math. We're going to do a little math for you right now because you're a math guy. I'm pretty bad at doing it without my calculator. You can do it for me real fast. But the point where, you know, because whoever's watching this, there's a lot of people that recommend way protein. We don't consume way protein and it's, I think, it's a piece of shit. Why? Because you can not, they can talk all the shit they want, but you can go look up. This is a very well-established scientific scientific term, which is called the net nitrogen utilization rate. So for every gram of protein, 16% of it is nitrogen. That's what makes carbohydrates fats and proteins different that it. There's a nitrogen retention. So 16% of the net weight of every gram of protein is nitrogen. The name to the game is how much nitrogen you retain. Right. Exactly. So that's how they're able to measure the whole eggs have 48% not white. The whole thing. The whole thing. 48% when you take it apart and you just eat the white, it's roughly in the 16% range. So when we're talking about how much protein are you really getting, it's measuring the urea in your urine, which is the waste product of breaking down protein. So the name to the game is how much you're retaining. Correct. So because food, when people say you have to eat 0.8 grams of protein to 1.6 depending if you're a Olympic trainer or whatever, they say per pound of body weight is really per lean pound of body weight because fat doesn't need protein. But muscle needs protein. Correct. Because it's amino acid derived. Right. So if you times, for example, I have 100 pounds of lean muscle. If, let's just say I'm getting it from what is that math? If I'm getting it from weight protein, you would have to at 16%. You would have to have the math is something in the 500 times six. 500 calories. You know, by 100 grams, 500 grams of protein, which multiplied by 4 calories per gram, 2000 calories a day. I'm a math guy. So if it's 100 pounds and you only get anything, a 16% conversion that's, and you want one gram per pound. So for lean body weight. Okay. I weigh 175. I'm not measuring of 175. I'm measuring 100 pounds because that's how much lean body weight. Right, right. So 100 pounds lean body weight divided by 16%. There we go. That's a 600 gram. There you go. Thank you. Which is why bodybuilders who are famous for consuming this mud. That's why they have these leaky godly huge bellies because of this overconsumption of protein. Which by the way, you really only need like 50 grams from food. It's really the amino acids that your body is after. When you eat steak, when you eat chicken, when you eat like all the stuff, I don't give a shit what it is. When you eat protein, your body doesn't give a shit what it is. What can I use here? Amino acids. Take it. The rest. Forge it out. And that's why I'm going to go by the way. Let me get some of sugar because you know I could use that for calories. And you know what? Let me actually gobble up all this sugar because then I can convert it into fat just in case. Right. That's why I'm getting at least 20 to 30 grams of essential amino acid. Remember, 10 grams is equivalent roughly to 4 ounce steak, which is roughly 30 grams. Yeah. 99% utilization rate. And it's starting to pre-digest it. Forge. With no toxic waste. We're not thinking about the antibiotics or chemicals. When we go out to restaurants, they're cooking with deodorized rancid oils. Like you're not really getting everything to do. You're not getting too dark on sensitive. You know what I'm saying? You're not one of the most complex issues. You're super good. I've actually, yeah, I'm actually in a much better place. Which, thanks to the peptides. Which is what we're talking about. Yeah, correct. But what I'm saying is. The FMT. That's another podcast by me. If that isn't you planted a new diverse amount of microbes that whatever you're doing, it's helping because you re-nerge the micro diversity and density that you have. For sure. Yeah, we're not going to go there. Anyways, for anybody, please listening, man, it's not the protein chase. That's not where the game is at. It's the amino acid intake, the essential amino acid intake. That is crucial. That is crucial for life. I hear what you guys are saying on all this. I guess my one concern still is like, that doesn't sound. Obviously, we didn't have essential amino acid powders for the past two million years. So, like, what is it about this supplement that's so important that's not. I know why. cancelation. cancelation. cancelation. cancelation. cancelation. I know why. I know why. That's why a sterile like an angelon detonate is an anabolic drug that, so testosterone is an Androgenic drug causes Andrew is an Androgen drug. It can also be anabolic because it has growth. Could you actually? Erraction, like it's all the masculine traits of this that that Androgenics have Anabolic is just growth. Okay. So Nandrogen decanate it increases protein synthesis, which the testosterone does, but also collagen synthesis is why people say they're joints are lube because they have more collagen synthesis around the articulation. So they have comfort But more than anything else it's it's really high on the nitrogen retention. Mm-hmm That's why people get really big with Nandrogenic because it makes you retain more nitrogen Gotcha. So and then also also testosterone. I mean one of the biggest things that you see initially in the first six weeks is Rax, like the rektake You didn't really change anything in your diet. Yeah, because you're retaining more Right got it. Okay, but does that make sense because back in the days we had a higher testosterone level obviously we're reading raw carnivore Dye rates very different worlds So very different. I guess if you didn't want to drink the amino acid powder You could just take a ton of testosterone. That's not it's a balance right because Carlos and I we don't do it He he takes it to an extreme. He has a liquid smoothie every day, right? And it has maybe 600 calories and then he eats dinner which possibly has I don't know a thousand to fifteen hundred calories Fantastic man. And we retain as you can see we have muscle is because we compensate for the testosterone with the sensual amino acids and everything else is Holding the structure together. Yeah, otherwise if we would be doing we would be sick and not looking as good as we are or feeling as good as we are right So so for anybody listening man, you know like if I've again if you if you never heard from me again Just know that you have massive nutrient deficiencies and if I was gonna If if if you and I were told that the apocalypse is coming We're gonna ride in that truck and we could get one supplement lifetime supply It would not beat us off. It would be a amino acids man And this world wow Today's world that's what I would take because that makes everything you're reducing time It makes it you're reducing so many different things right? That's how important the thing so we came kind of full circle That is the most essential raw material Yes, because we are made of protein. We don't retain protein. No because you need to make To make it every single thing like you are the life is a protein producing Protein producing manufacturing machine. Yes, right? If I was gonna pick one it'd be that so with you know This is what ends to your one for us. It's like listen man. You want to have for very little money mm-hmm Like a transformation or a fact With just by the way, well, I did the math the other day like for three months apply of this stuff It's no more than 650 bucks at most. We're talking about right now. It's tier one testosterone. Oh you're talking about the whole thing Yeah, oh three months ago and amino acids yeah, yeah three months apply. Yeah, six hundred and thirty bucks So 200 ish bucks a month to transform you get way more out of that than any peptide and that's why when people call us about pet We're like doing not the hell right let's fix this first. Yeah, let's make sure this is in place Yeah, so and this is a different ingredient down the road But you know, I love that we're gonna touch up on wealth This is how I like to think about it because most people most of us right will focus on Building muscle we want to make muscle and it's like I'm saying okay So you want to make more money? Well, let me answer question are you interested in making money or you're interested in wealth What are you interested in because if you're interested in about wealth then tell me what wealth manager will only advise you to make more money That's not a strategy. That's not a that's not a wealth manager a wealth manager is gonna tell you two things you need to Make money invest but also retain You need to have a tax strategy so that you retain more of what you're making sure So I can get your body at 45 or 50 to make muscle just as efficient and just as effective as a 25 year old science has shown this This is not like esoteric But this is how you reduce that Accelerate rate of entropy because and as we get older were no longer building as we're no longer building as fast as we're breaking down Meaning from the moment you're born you're dying. Yeah, but you're going up Once you hit 20 sinks something start to go down by the time 30 15% per decade you lose of your growth hormone So now we start breaking now faster than we can rebuild What he saying is scientifically we can get you back to retain building faster than you're breaking down And now you slow down that rate of accelerated accelerate rate of entropy But going just once that back is I can get your body to make muscle like a 25 year old But you're still gonna be breaking it down like a 50 year old So you're making a hundred thousand dollars a year great you're spending a hundred and five a hundred and eight a hundred and 12 And so literally you're in debt right and so I don't care who you are But after 30 we begin to break down muscle right yeah, I've never seen a 95 year old with bulgy muscles right So because we start to lose muscle right I don't care who you are. I don't care what kind of drugs you are So the strategy is you know if if we both make a hundred thousand dollars you You pay 30% tax bracket. I pay 8% who's richer So the name of the game when you're trying to oh, I want to make more muscle Great, I can I can do that for you. What are we going to talk about retaining muscle? You have to have a muscle building and a muscle retention strategy If not then you're just chasing your tail right so that's when we're going to get into myostan inhibition right I was trying to think about the term was because we've talked about it before yeah myostan inhibition So that's these things Catabolize muscle also term they're actually breaking down muscle. Oh, there's a there's an interrogative sign within the science But you know, we don't like We don't know which one comes for like is it after 30 I begin to break down muscle and myostan goes up in the body Or is it after 30 myostan goes up and then my muscle starts breaking down so it's it's a catalyst for breaking down muscle We just don't know the order and you know people have seen the pictures of the Belgian blues right these humongous balls that look like body Right these are genetically and I only bring the picture to mind because these are genetically modified balls to have zero myostan They don't have that's a head muscle for they just add muscle for and it's kind of cruel because they die from the weight They die from weakness right but you know, so we need myostan right myostan if you were thrown in an island for 30 days We know food your body would liquefy Muscle Pluconiogenesis to keep you alive so we need a certain amount of Myostan we just want to inhibit it because the acceleration what he was talking about Right, so you've got to have a muscle preservation strategy right got it so you cover this. I mean you would get Sensational results in comparison to 95% of americans and by the way that whole myostan as well. There's a Very crucial pathway within the myostan called we have a product that downregulates something called the ubiquitin proteosome pathway So ubiquitin is basically it tags damaged proteins and the proteosome is like a paper shredder So you need to remember I said as long as you're breathing your turn you have still turn every so you got to clean up the system You got to shred these broken down proteins throughout topology fast and all these things But that loss of proteostasis The machinery starts to collapse and now you start building up toxic waste in the system And that's what can lead to tumors and as it sells so Almost we're almost at peptides What no one won't even get into tier two or tier three which we gonna leave that for another time But like tier two so that's tier one and then we say okay now that you know that you can For your follow up now that you manage this okay and depending on the age like if you're if you're on Pre-40 you know you can get away with tier one anything over 40 Tier two becomes an essential yeah because everything that I'm about to talk to you about you lose by over 50% You know just lose to solstering you lose a bunch of other these other nutrients so you know But tier one will get you far ahead right so we say hey listen instead of me sending you $15,000 worth of shit that you're gonna be overwhelmed I wanted to show me that you can master these three things just master these four things three four things and watch What you can get with these three four things and you will be mind blown And then once you're mind blown and you see your levels now you can trust me on the job that we're gonna do with peptides Which becomes a lot more precise a lot more intricate right? So then we talk about tier two which is you know nitric oxide I mean it's hard to put a value on nitric oxide in amino acids because every major disease known a man starts with the nitric oxide deficiency And what's really funny to me to to kind of emphasize on this nutrient deficient thing that we're suffering through is Doctors get less than one hour of nutrition education in Yet we had one on yesterday. He said yes, it's like two hours. It's really two hours. It's fucking nuts And it's not even accurate. Yeah, it's not even accurate Most doctors have always said Prober you need to eat your leafy green vegetables, right? And it's like why what is it that my body is Extracting from these leafy green vegetables that is so useful to me. I mean there's vitamins minerals and that stuff Most you know, then you have fiber But the number one asset to leafy green vegetables is nitric oxide Hmm. It's not in the ground anymore The nitrates nitrates convert to nitrate and then you get nitrate Rounded we have to give it to you so the statistics shows and you know dr. Nathan Ryan we love him. He's our friend He's our scientist chief scientific officer on our on our rrb Um, man in the world that has the most amount of research on nitric oxide You know he established. I mean after 40 you've lost over 50% of your nitric oxide. Well Nitric oxide is delivering oxygen through the system. So imagine losing 50% of your breathing power What happens? I mean if I'm a tree and I lose 50% of my oxygen yeah, or my breathing power I mean, I don't die by that with her. Yeah, so you've gone from i95 and delivering nutrients and oxygen to the system Your brain your heart you dick everything to a one-lane road, right? So you need to you need to address meaning your blood vessels begin to collapse you don't move enough blood flow You don't pump you pump your cardiovascular system represents 3% of your body weight yet is responsible for getting you Thousand gallons of oxygen per day 2000 gallons of blood moving throughout your body over a hundred thousand times beating your heart And what actually does it is a nitric oxide molecule right without it you can't function Net needless to say that most people don't think about that one of the contributor Signalers to get stem cells out of bone marrow relies crucially on nitric oxide crucially And if you don't have the proper nitric oxide saturation you do not get stem cell signaling to get out and repair your body And before you go out and run nitric you know go and buy nitric oxide But there's only one product that you should get Let's be fair. There's only two products that work out there Here's a crazy part Most nitric oxide products are L-argining and L-sitling base. Check this out. L-argining is Precursor to nitric oxide But in order for it to bridge into nitric oxide you need the NOS enzyme nitric oxide synthase enzyme The problem is by the time we turn 40 it completely collapses So it's like putting gas into a burn engine doesn't work And then L-sitling is a byproduct from the production nitric oxide But if you have a nitric oxide in the first place That's somebody who wants to if you ever have a substance that's or Argining in L-sitling throw away somebody who doesn't understand science You should throw it away. Yeah, then the next Prepe by the way 99.999999% of pre-workout products have this L-sitling. Yeah, or origin and this is what they bank on. Yeah, and it's worthless So there's a very special place called the farm etoki phenoki. 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Yeah, I think it's a it's so has has elemental magnesium, but it's uh So nine the doctor anything brown is the only guy that's figured out how to make a solid form base of a nitric oxide Gas because this is a gas and so there's a lot of products out there There's a couple of legitimate companies that give you a nitric oxide product that helps your body produce Yeah, so it's based on nitrates their nitrate based products So you take the nitrates your body converts to nitrites it hits the stomach acid and you get nitric oxide But the problem if you take if you take mouthwash which kills 99% of what? Bacteria bacteria the very bacteria you need to produce nitric oxide then you take antibiotics and You take proton pump proton pump inhibitors like an anti acid you have completely wiped out the Mechanism for your body to produce nitric oxide So if you want to skip all of that because we've all had damaged Nathan Bryan's our buddies nitric oxide you synthesize nitric oxide whether you're taking the three together You will make nitric oxide for a couple of hours. That's why you want to pulse it twice a day sometimes even try to say like on a meeting like this You take one. Yeah, so Nitric oxide then we go down the road and you know, let's not get into the details. Oh except for the NAD portion Omega-3s. I mean clinically been shown to reduce triglycerides which is you know one of the things that give you heart attacks And it's about metabolic flexibility of the cell. It's kind of like the oil the Loub you know as as we become older You know a little baby is super pliable We become other rigid or cells that happens to ourselves so the biolipid layer of the cell right? That's me out of phospholipids and yeah So when I go to become like rigid like that it's harder for them to accept nutrients but more importantly to Expel waste. So it's kind of like yourselves are walking around constantly So what happens is First of all you got to think of Omega's like the the The oil that lose our engine so just like a car needs an oil change and you don't feel the oil change But it does give you more mileage on the gallon and it does preserve the engine our bodies need Omega's just like essential amino acids We have essential fatty acids, so we need to get them from the outside in So the ratio that you're supposed to get is a three to one ratio Omega six two Omega once the problem is that today it's 20 some there's different estimates, but it's roughly 20 to one 20 to one so we have completely damaged the integrity of our cells causing super physiological inflammatory responses that perpetrate chronic loading Great inflammation that translate into poor metabolic flexibility meaning the The outer layer of the cell doesn't have the proper flexibility to that because it's the guard rails So the 21 is our ratio like in America. No, I'm gonna be a three to one three to one But it's at a 20 to one because we too many Omega six we too many processes So the cells are rigid and inflamed so nothing can come in really and nothing can come out and then the phospholipid layer Which is phosphatil cold lean and then I forget the second one, but it's it's a complex form, but phospholipid It's called genetic crosstalk material For your mitochondria to communicate with the nucleus, which is what's transcribing the RNA and then leading to proteins metabolism so on It relies on a couple things, but the major thing is phospholipids and if you don't have healthy phospholipid Within the integrity of the membrane, and especially the only Basically structure that has a double layer of fat is mitochondria has an outer lipid and an inner lipid So SS 31 rebuilds the cardio lipid, which is the inner structure, which is where the complex one through four Electron transport chain takes place so you can produce and pass more electrons through that Assembly line and this more ATP, right? Okay, so you mentioned a peptide there Oh We've got 25 minutes. Oh my god. Okay, I don't know if we should maybe we should leave to part two because it's like I feel like we're We're doing a this service to people just whatever order you want to go in honestly We can do parts you I honest um I'll leave it to you. I honestly there is a big hunger out there people want to know what the fuck these peptides Well, but let's leave them at the edge of their seat. Yeah, it should be at the edge to be good I think it's a disservice to just jump into peptides to give you what you want when you don't even understand why you want what you want Because you're a lot for place Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, listen and you know like like that. That's how the conversation started like we're you know look We're not Here's the value of what we provide, I think We're not influencers. We're not your average biohacker that doesn't see patients We have been doing this behind the scenes with clinic with patients repeated labs for years we've managed their progress Like we have been doing this in the ditches in the trenches every day from a clinical perspective and so when we're talking about longevity You have to be really fucking careful because most people will focus on performance when you focus on performance You will burn longevity So our job is to teach you how to dance Between the two so that not only can you perform but you can perform for a very long time That's the value and so it's the ultimate Rubik's you challenge. How do I improve health ban? Health span along life expectancy. Yeah, and we want to teach you like our big like our big mission and life Is I want to we want to teach you this stuff so that you don't become subject to sales and marketing just you learn how to use them at some point We're more than happy like take the training wheels off and go now we still people I'm like look dude when we're talking about pet touch That's like formula one shit, okay. I'm gonna let you drive the car Really really fast But I will be damned if I let you drive this car without your sea belt in your helmet You're not gonna do it here. You're gonna wear your sea belt You're gonna wear your helmet and you're gonna go really fucking fast and we're gonna teach you how to drive But you gotta go with safety first because if not it's worthless Right so you know so for us like it's like hey you want peptides to work You want to get the most ROI of on your peptide you gotta have these You can't leave this out you gotta have these materials because the peptide is basically gonna go to this You know, let's talk about really quickly. Let's give it like let me let me give them a little a little something right? Let's talk about thymus and awful one which is an amazing immunological Amino acid. It's an amazing One of our favorite which we'll get eventually into half lives is very important to other sand half lights how to time these things Yeah, yeah, you know you get to say you get injured whatever, you know some people know it as TV 500 right? It's it's really stimulating a gland in your body called thymus gland, which is responsible for a lot of really important shit Right, so if you get a cutter whatever or you get you know you get a virus Sorry thymus and awful one is literally gonna get on the loudspeaker in your body Say guys, I know you guys are busy doing your own shit, but hey, we got a virus in the system this rubber got cut We need to go fix it. So I need everybody to recruit and go there and fix it And if the cells are disconvovulated deficient and they show up like tire like hey, man. I don't have materials to repair The peptide doesn't do anything and so people are literally flushing Money down to toilet, you know, and that's what breaks our hearts not to mention That we also see a lot of people get hurt with these peptides Especially like the terseba tides and the written like you can really fuck your system up if you don't know what you're doing I've had tons of people that have lost the weight But then they're in their fifties and they've lost 30 40% of their muscle mass Which is catastrophic It is far easier It's far easier to lose your fat and drop weight than to build muscle Especially if you've lost it and especially after a certain age, you know, and then so what are you gonna do? You're gonna get into stosh or not so you're doing the you're doing it in reverse If you're mitochondrion flam the integrity of the cell is dysfunctional Like you're not getting anything really in so yeah the thing is signaling But you're not getting nutrients in so what results are you gonna get? Yeah, and so I would say you know once we go or mega three then we go to so wait The final part of amegas is so the study show that having optimal mega levels Have been shown to associate it to an increase in five years of lifespan And a 90% reduction in sudden cardiac death and ironically non-smokers with low levels of amegas had similar Liespans with smokers, but with high omega-3 levels and amegas have been shown to improve muscle protein synthesis You're talking about four grams or above I health gut health Cardiovascular health neuro protective. I mean again, it's what makes it If I had to pick between phospholipids and amegas I pick amegas because you need the amegas for the phospholipids or like a subtype of a fat Right, but they're critical for that genetic cross-talk material that a genetic material cross-talk that I'm talking about Between the nucleus of yourselves and your mitochondria Just you understand inside a cell if you zoom in we have 70 organs 78 depending on the definition of an organ, but inside of your cells you have about 13 little parts, right little organ Organals organelles organelles what you have the mitochondria you have the lysosome you have an endoplasmic reticulum So you have a packaging center for protein you have another packaging center for Fats then you have the delivery trucks and you have the cleanup group then you have the the the the the paper shredder You have all these systems the cytoskeleton which holds the whole integrity of the cell right there's a whole life in there And this is why we like to say we're a cellular health optimist cellular health and longevity medical practice Because if you optimize those little organ systems if you zoom in and you optimize that when you zoom out everything else is gonna work better So the point is you have to go down to that level because if the inner machinery at the nuclear little power plants called mitochondria Now property working and they're inflamed and then the cleanup crew is not working and you're not property packaging You got a dysfunctional manufacturing machine. So how are you supposed to produce anything if the cell is not property working? And now you're sending a communication to this dysfunctional factory. Hey produce more faster. I need more more And the fuck yeah fuck you. So this is why the Omega's instead of just oh, yeah, I'm taking Omega's supplementation or food or both Both both both because most foods unless when we go out to you right now Watch we're gonna take that little card. I gave you yeah, you can't eat 95% of the menu. Oh, okay. I have every restaurant. I don't give a fuck It's a seven star restaurant 95% of you're not gonna eat because it's just we'll see we'll play it. I'm excited to see we're going to a nice place So the point is oh, yeah, I'm taking Omega's unless you actually test the intracellular level we interview Dr. Bill hers who is a world renowned 43 years study 45 yeah 45 at this point studying Omega He does a finger prick test because you have cell turnover rate every four months of red blood cells So what you find in one red blood cells? Not like okay, this one is gonna have this level and this other red blood cells Gonna have this level what you find in one red blood cells gonna be across the board. Mm-hmm So by defining how much you have which is a percentage 8 to 12 percent you want to be able to average American is about 4 percent Wow, so you want to be between 8 and 12 percent and now we know if you're in that range we know there's Flexibility to the cell and now the cell is is robust right now. It's like okay now. I can now I can do now. I can do work Right. I can go work out. Yeah, right Don't expect me to run a marathon when I'm like Yeah starving the death and dehydrated. Yeah, I'm gonna do very well, right? So it's this is increased It's reducing their rigidity, right? So yeah more flexible more more Malia, and so because we were on the subject of matter Conrad then the next step and I think that no NAD is it next? Yeah, we'll end on this one just because of the second time and I think that we might be able to get the Electro-Electro-Electro lights N and AD I think if you end here, we'll give them a little peptide piece just a little piece NAD is not a peptide? No, no, no Okay, so if you end from where we started to hear in terms of the nutrients and resources that you need to put back into your body Now you're increasing your ROI on that type of dramatic right exponentially, okay? So then we talk about NAD which you know, NAD produces ATP is the is the and you know, you have these and it's funny, right? Like You are a complex system of everything that makes you you robber your hair your beautiful hair skin You're everything that makes you your ideas all this stuff, right? It's a complex network of over 35 trillion cells 35 40 trillion cells Whatever depending on who you talk to in every single one of those cells you have these tiny energy producing factories called mitochondria, right? They power everything so when you extract them if you were to extract mitochondria from your body They make about 10% of your body weight They're responsible for 95% of your energy production meaning not the energy to go workout and pump weights The energy that it requires for you to pay attention during podcasts You know breath while your hair is hard 100,000 times a day without you know There's a lot of power plants right? Yeah, you don't have energy if you don't have mitochondria Yeah, going back to the original like I you know, I profess this you know when you're young you have a really high level of NAD And you have no demand then the the the dynamic flips during your mid-age NAD level drops and so now your cell is completely deficient So do you think that your body your cells when you have you know a lot more to van and less revenue or less resources? Do you think your body is going to be more concerned with how fast your hair grays or pumping your heart 100,000 times a day without you noticing Do you think it's going to be more concerned with how efficient it is like policies and burning fat or keeping the lights on? Yeah, right? So this is where it's like hey, we need to feed our mitochondria And so there's a lot of NAD plus you know injections and it's like it's missing the point right because you need to feed it and What we found based on the research is that there's only one compound to really feed the mitochondria for you get into feeding the mitochondria Just let me give more context on mitochondria uh We have 37 mitochondria genes with thousands of functions and the average amount of mitochondria depending on the intensity of that organ system is between 502,000 mitochondria per cell You have 40 trillion of these That matter you can do like there's estimated that we have over like roughly a hundred thousand trillion cells I think it's a hundred quadrillion as a number. Wow a hundred thousand trillion you produce your body weight in ATP production every day in your cells 25% of the volume space of your cells is mitochondria so If the mitochondria are dysfunctional then there what are we talking about here because mitochondria is ultimately the universe The universal currency of energy production So why are we talking about mitochondria because in order to generate mitochondria you need NAD in the process Now here's the problem because of aging and nutrition and and and the process of aging and the environmental toxins and high sugar loads and new and stressful situations what else Sleep deprivation lack of exercise all these things start to wear and tear your Your cells so you don't as he said you don't produce the same amount of NAD and as you don't produce a sound amount of NAD Your cells needed in order to produce ATP which is a universal energy currency of energy. It's the dollar is the dollar of the system right So if your cells are now getting that then you're not outputting The proper energy production your butt. That's why when you look at a little kid a five-year-old They don't run out of energy because they're just producing Fucking nonstop mitochondria and their their system is properly working. Yeah So before we get into what works here is where people get caught up NAD we need NAD people are in check. That's what you want people are injecting NAD We interviewed Dr. Sandra Kaufman who wrote the Kaufman longevity protocol. She is look her up. She's freaking about down to her She knows her shit, but even her is still confuzzled still confusing the topic But there's there's five step precursors to NAD and a dr. Jim too who has a PhD on just NAD 400 peer review studies. It's crazy which we use don't test. I mean don't gas test. We use this test But even testing his there's another now a test that ultimately You want to know ultimately how well is your mitochondria working? So on the NAD test we're good But my mitochondria we're working we're in one of the tops with it's still not optimized so you can have fully saturated perfect levels of NAD but gas great gas but the but the car is Translating exactly because it could be inflammation. You're a low of megas It's not just taking this thing and having good levels This one I mean the complexity of longevity and performance is very complex The point is that you got five step precursors. You have triptophan then it converts into nicotinic acid then it's nice. Cinemide then there's nicotinemaiboboside then there's nicotinemaibmonanucleotide and now you get NAD And NAD is the molecule that we need but NAD a poet of biology And then NAD is the molecule that we need but it's too big to penetrate the cellular membrane and get inside and cause your mitochondria inside of the cell NAD is what we went when you inject NAD the molecule that you're injecting is too big to actually penetrate the space So it doesn't really honestly it doesn't really do anything There are some studies that suggests that you know, peripherally because it stays peripherally There are some studies that suggest you know, it could be for neurological deficiencies or someone who had like blunt At TBI, it could be a body work you know for a systemically But when you want it where do you want it? Essentially you want the mitochondria to So get up and so it has to penetrate the the the intracellular space so in contrast NAD is very very small So it goes in but it leaks out so the mitochondria and able to gather it so you would have to take elephant doses of nice So what works is doing the first step precursor Which is small enough to penetrate the cell but big enough to remain in the cell and so the mitochondria use it Boom you get your gas so anti NAD plus no no no no no no so Based on everybody we've ever interviewed. I think nobody still knows but what we learn from dr. Sandr Kaufman NAD Injectable intravenously can be used by your neurons And I mean I forgot NM can be used by the redden of your eye and nor I can be used by certain muscles Niamite can be used for certain things so it's almost like okay. You want to make a supplement that has all of them It's took it's it's like saying taking when people say they take vitamin C they're really taking an absorbic acid Which is like one piece one piano key of the keyboard. You're now taking the whole bottle flabby noise You want to take the whole spectrum That's what my intuition is telling me from everything I've learned That you want to take the whole spectrum now we want more thing because people are oh no and are Some people say nicotine my ribositis better than nicotine my mononucotide well based on Davidson clear and some other people They did studies I mean Pound propound like they compared and our versus NM and they showed that the response with NM was greater than NR in regards to performance So it's rat study show there was a 400% improvement in performance with NM and what was it the rats ran like a quarter mile there were like 70 year old equivalent rats And they can only run a quarter mile but when giving NAD for 14 weeks onto a saturated they can run like two miles And then there's a lot from house. Yeah, like an improvement in longevity All these things so NAD has this place in this time So we take NM which is the precursor which is the last step precursor to NAD Right so that one actually penetrates inside the cell and actually can make an idea and I'm not gonna get into this But I'm we're just starting to learn this all injectable in ideas NAD plus which is highly reactive and It could be oxidative very oxidative what you need is you need to refine it's like taking fully versus tetrahedromethyl Fully which is the refine form of fully because fully can be toxic, right? So um you what's the point on that the um I knew you're an NAD plus but what you want is oh yeah, you want NAD H right. Oh, okay So NAD plus it's this is chemistry 101 and I'm not the best chemistry chemist ever But I did learn that NAD H is ultimately what you what your cell is named to generate ATP So remember NAD is uh it supports in the mitochondria to produce more electrons And this is where a method in blue comes this as well, and I know you've had was it a name? cruise Pulse that lead in all talking about your brain turns blue that has been only shorn with IVs at Redid and you're talking about two three hundred milligrams I'm talking about there's multiple random randomized clinical trials Randomized clinical trials, which is pretty silver standard of studies showing that anywhere from point five milligrams to two milligrams per kilogram It's in the safe zone we go even lower we take like point 25 milligrams every other day because it could build up because Methyl and blue is lipophilic like vitamin D is lipophilic meaning it's sucked up by fat so you can retain it and it can build up Yeah, so methaline blue is something that does help in the process and not gonna turn your brain blue Because you have to take IV doses in very high amounts. Yeah, we can get there later You know just so we don't use the NAD So now we know the NAD there's a spectrum We so we also let me give you the five in a one and a half So what we do also because you know again to to cover like the spectrum is like okay So if my neurons like NAD how do I get them how do I get them right in there? So we use an intra nasal NAD So product because across is the blood-brain barrier into the neurons where the neurons are like yes This is what we want right so it's a much better delivery system Which you can't get through injectable because it doesn't cross right so that's important then from that I mean we can really like just segue just to give a little teaser This is where SS 31 is amazing and one of our favorite peptides because you can it's like okay I can give you food and you know and obviously give you life and maintenance but You know you you're old and you're older and you're you're getting older you have a lot of wear and tear right So what SS 31 does is it it's kind of like me go has a great say is like look imagine wearing a t-shirt For 30 years right and washing it and washing and washing that t-shirt It's gonna look very flimsy, but imagine putting something other than when you get it out of the dryer It's now brain spanking no and so SS 31 kind of regenerates the mitochondria so there's a difference It regenerates a unique lipid member which is the inner memory called the cardio lipid Which is what keeps the compressed member there's there's a log going on There's that whole complex shame the proton ponds yeah moving electrons That starts to lose his integrity and now it's it's nap at the engine. It's like an engine It starts to break down after years so I could have gas rebuild that cardio lipid So it's nice and sturdy so it's like the engine never never ages You can put gas on your car, but it has wear on terror so imagine doing something so like your car is now Brands backing new right and that's kind of just as an analogy that's kind of why SS 31 is such an exciting peptide now because you're You're now you're not only feeding the mitochondria, but you're also regenerating Just caveat most people need to take motsey in the beginning with it because I'm not gonna get it to well for next time But you want to take a hydacondriol peptide. Yeah, I might a condriol peptide You want to take motsey and Dan cardigan. Oh, you can take them together There's no exact signs, but if you're mitochondria or damage and you got inflammation You want to start with motsey and then lead to the SS 31 Listen because we have three minutes. I just want to leave it so that we segue and here's where I got to say let me just let me just say Electrolytes. Let me just say the lecture. I really go quick. No, no lecture light. I need to say because that's the last one from our From our whatever no no from our tier two. No, that's tier three. We finished tier two just tier three we combined tier three now we're peptides, but peptides we put in there and again In reality, you should have them all from the beginning But we tier them because you can't give too much because people get overwhelmed. Yeah, so now we're in tier three We have electrolytes secret open and peptides and within the peptides you can have the Acrimenciate Musinifile if you're taking GOP once there's a couple things, but let's just say secret open Which is a product that nourishes all growth hormone because we just think of IGF1 But there's IGF2 there's IGF Bp1 all the way to seven and they have all its other benefits the point is that Electrolytes why are they so important? I don't know anybody or any other product or any and I'm not gonna say to ever do So I'm not even gonna give the name right now, but uh, well actually there's no point because we're gonna finish with electrolytes We use Quentin. So it's an electrolyte that's extractive from the south of France or in Italy where it's like 30 meters before the sea There's like a whirlpool occur there where the phytoplatin and the zoo planta which are like the jellyfish the krill All of that when it eats the phytoplatin it creates a metal ball a fertile ground fertile of all of the Genosebahasalt Sea salt Himalayan salt. This is another rabbit hole We've gone into that we learned it for us. There is no Ultimate better electrolyte than Quentin because it has 78 ionic charge minerals in their perfect proportion So you have Minerals and trace elements which are like micro minerals, but it's in their perfect proportion Which matches so they have two products you have the isotonic and the hypertonic the hypertonic doesn't match the Asmodic concentration of your blood But if you do sound or if you're outside and you sweat a lot you take the hypertonic to nourish the cells and Put electricity back into system that's what it does for you know if you're gonna extract like what he's saying or just like a nugget It just now that you put all the components Yeah, electrolytes basically plug you into the wall And now you get electricity nothing works unless you have electricity now you work now It's now you're now you have the power plant powered right and now you're ready to receive so because we're ending here Now that we're gonna get into peptides here's what I want to say to people so maybe let me just say that one thing I don't know any other lecture this one. I'm gonna say this one wins. I don't care what gay or brack up All the you guys say out there you show me an electrolyte that you can shoot up intravenously I'm not telling anybody to do that. I personally that's what I do. I shoot up this stuff intravenously with saline solution I put a lecture I put a quinter I started the reason regularly Well, how about this? No, no, this is an electrolyte just to give you an idea This is an electrolyte and then this is this is why it's so dramatic and this was considered medicine in Europe in the 1600 There's a guy by the name Renek Renek King Tom Renek when he did a few he did a ton of different scientific studies to the Vettig 1897 just you know that are incredible one of them he took three I think was three three dogs right six dogs well Most of them were healthy two of them were sick. I believe he and this is he did it You know in France and the university people were watching he took the dogs he bled them Took all the blood out of all their blood out and then hooked them up and put this electrolyte which is just Sea water sea water put it into their bloodstream every single dog walked got up and walked I know they recovered the six dogs they all had something but they recovered then they did that same study twice one in America Two in America one in for I've been Spain. I think they replicated and they had the same exact result It was used for tuberculosis. It was used for many different There's a lot of conspiracy when we interviewed Robert Slovak which is a 50-year water scientist He's the one that invented the molecular hydrogen tablets brought The theorem depleted what this guy is freaking supporters out he he commercialized the reverse osmosis system He didn't invent it, but yeah commercial Yes, of course, but the point is this is the man who we learned the electrolyte from and because From his science and understanding the science of what quints or remember they have the hypotonic and then the isotonic Yeah, isotonic matches the esmodic concentration of blood meaning it has the same exact ratios of what makes the concentration of what's inside the blood So sometimes I actually even makes peptides with it and I inject it because remember the best carrier the more Electronically yeah, no, I've done it. I don't recommend people to do it But you can do like so cute like I would use it back to your static water. Yes, okay It could develop a bacteria. You don't keep it in the bottle You do do it a little bit of a basically back to your static water Which has a lot of benzoyl alcohol in it, but then I do you can drink it or use it as a peptide mix? Yes Well, well, this is anecdotal for an assure situation Anybody this is this is me Macaveline, you know, right? This is just us being completely pioneers in this stuff Right, but the point is nothing no NAD no mitochondria will work nothing that you take will work unless you have the proper levels of electrolyte Okay, and then that is time But now that you've laid all of this foundation Yes, next we would be all peptides And can I just can I just give the people what why we're gonna talk about that? And how are you gonna tell us and also let people know where they can find out about you guys your work your business Yeah, medical health institute dot com, uh, and you know, you can call us and whoever picks up the phone is gonna be a qualified coach that no they've been they've heard this for years Oh, no, they hear it every single week You better get with a you think or swim in our company You think or swim in our company You can also follow our podcast which is beyond biohacking brothers And if you do sign up for any reason in case you like what we said Please use my those media when you call make sure you say my those media so you can just give me my last name More teacher team rod rela but whatever you'll get at this count to get started if you decide go down And just for the for the average watcher because look you know we could do and you know We talked to robber before doing the show like we can sit here and tell you what each peptide does But you can find that online anywhere you could go to chat GPT and likes mine to you So what we would want to do as a you know for for your viewers Believe me the preview. Yeah. Yeah, it's to teach you how to use peptides like a pro if if you're thinking Oh, I want the glow and and the Wolverine stack and I want this and that and like I was so sick and tired of these stupid marketing terms These is not science. Don't buy the train by the science. So you know if you're buying a product Like oh, I want to see you see so I can make more muscle and burn more fat You've missed the entire point. You're a consumer. This is how consumers think of these products when you look at scientists And pros we don't think of these products this way right we think about what they do for our systems So just to give you a kind of preview like for example, let's take a very popular peptide like the CJC Epimoramin growth hormone stimulant well, why would you want to do that? Well, so As when every human on earth from the ages of I mean so every human on earth between eight o'clock at night and four o'clock in the morning That's when we get the largest pulse of growth hormone You know from an ancestor living Perspective we were asleep growth hormone came in master hormone grew things repair things all these things beautiful thing so Before you turn 30 that peak the amplitude of that peak is like Mount Everest by the time you're 30 It looks more like Tennessee Hill by the time you're 50 it looks more like a wave in the ocean right? So bubble yet why and to give you kind of an analogy is because your pituitary is going from Grape to raisin just like why do you work out muscles because if you don't they atrophy? Same thing happens for a lot of these glands so your pituitary also atrophysic collapse They begin to collapse So from that perspective when you're thinking about longevity does it make sense to do a product like CJC So we can flex the pituitary's Muscle Reminded what is supposed to do and benefit from the amplitude of the pulse that we used to get when we were young the answer is absolutely yes, but a ton of different things happen this way thymus and aphawan right which controls your immune system So literally after 50 the 1515 Cersei we've allude Cersei shrink starts a shrink like raisin like grape to raisin So that's why older people are immunologically compromised so is immunologically like having your immunological Your immunological response strong is it a valuable thing for longevity? Absolutely So doesn't make sense to do cycles throughout the year at least once a year of Passing off a one to remind the thymus gland what to do absolutely I like happens with everything. Yeah, okay, let's drop it here before we actually don't make dinner I like how you put it that you know the body does move in cycles and rhythms like we are we are a vibrational structure And so the when we get into the peptides next time it's like you're Tweaking that basically right you're sending different vibrations Different signals through the structure, but if you don't have the structural things in place first right what's the point? It rattles in falsified. Yeah, okay guys. This is awesome Sorry that we did have it stubborn Yeah, great. This is great. We'll do it a three hours later. Let's go baby. Yes See you next one. We have infinite airtime. Yeah, so all right. Let's go eat. Yeah, let's go. 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