Hour 1 - Follow the Epstein Money

This is an iHeart podcast welcome everybody Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off right now a lot going on so we know yesterday when I was on the air with you oh Clay will in fact call us from his super secret mission abroad this hour so we're gonna set that up for you Clay's out for the week traveling but he wants to tell you what he's been up to one of you might have already guessed it which was a pretty remarkable remarkable thing but he'll be joining us later on and we also have Michael Watley joining he's running for senate in north carolina so looking forward to that as that conversation gets rolling now now we had yesterday the house all voting in favor of except for one guy a republican voting in favor of the epstein transparency act and then we had last night the senate passing the same bill unanimously senators locked in agreement automatically passing the bill as soon as it came in from the house just looking at the updates here once the president signs the bill the justice department has 30 days to release materials related to jeffrey epstein now uh this this is moving the the president has already said that he believes this is or that he's supportive of this now he has said that he thinks this is the right move so we're going to get into what's going to happen it's not like we're going to know all of the details even for some time here there may be further redactions that happen or rather that we will have to contend with because my sense is if the redactions are extensive enough then people will say that's not going to fly that's not good enough there have to be more things that are released so that's one possibility another possibility is that there's nothing massive i say massive in the information that is released the the files if you will of this investigation and then people just say they hid stuff and they're still a clamoring for more transparency more those are all the things those are some of the things that i think could come out of this but there was this today as i was preparing for our show here this is cut 27 pam bondy the attorney general referring to the epstein investigation as a pending investigation play 27 the issue with the new information that you just indicated are is the department seeking information perhaps from the esteem epstein estate because mr blanche did not have that information when he interviewed the lane maxwell what new information and would you limit the new investigation to just those named persons that the president talked about or is this a broad open-ended investigation i would refer to um the deputy attorney general's post that he put out on x and we're we will we're not going to say anything else on that because now it is a pending investigation in the southern district of new york a pending investigation meanwhile the house has demanded epstein financial records from jp morgan chase deutche bank and the us virgin islands that's just in the last 24 hours now a few things here i can't tell you i don't know obviously and none of you know no one outside of a very small circle knows what is in this release that donald trump i am very confident is going to sign uh the final step if you will before the release and then there's 30 days so we're gonna wait a bit we're gonna wait a bit for this information i don't know exactly how many days but they have up to 30 days to release maybe it'll come much faster than that we'll see how the bureaucracy handles this but i sit here and i say to myself because you know and the house has already released 65 thousand documents related to epstein you know very well that i have been pounding a certain drum on this issue of follow the money follow the money it is completely unthinkable unthinkable to me or rather it should be unthinkable maybe a better way of putting it that we do not have a full accounting of how epstein pulled together a fortune that was approaching a billion dollars this guy did not create some new product he did not found some company he was not some uh you know hedge fund guy running 30 billion dollars of other people's money there are ways you can make a billion dollars tax advice is not one of them it's just not one of them and so this then brings up how did he make this money why is it that there were some people in epstein's orbit who were unbelievably and i mean that in the real sense of can't believe it unbelievably generous to him why the money i think is the single best chance we have to get these answers according to this opinion is that we're just put out by the house jp morgan chase began an internal investigation into accounts previously held by epstein flagging some 4700 transactions as suspicious epstein held accounts and bench with the bank with a deutje bank from 2013 until 2018 so they're going back in here into the money trail and i sit here wondering how it is and by the way i want to be clear that sometimes i will ask questions here that are rhetorical because something isn't adding up how is it possible that we don't have a full and and clear understanding of where all of epstein's money came from we've had a little bit here a little bit there but this should be obvious and i might add if it's somewhere already if they have the uh the flow chart of funds if it's in the release why haven't we already been given it why is it taking all of this pressure and all of this time why is it taking us to this place to be in a situation to finally get those answers so there's more that is that is coming out here now i i think you can pretty much set your watch to this one no matter what happens here with the files in terms of nothing on this is all about getting trump for the democrats and and there's something very grotesque about democrats suddenly caring they didn't care about this during the biden administration suddenly caring so much about the epstein files epstein's victims all of this it's hard not to view it as posturing because it is posturing meant to create the uh the moral high ground from which they can throw mud at donald trump or at least the appearance of such a thing no matter what happens with these files i can assure you they will not say you know you know trump is cleared trump didn't do in it didn't do anything and so that also brings us to why i think trump wasn't so immediately in favor of the release because no matter how much transparency he offers or rather he gives and i for a lot of you understand this is a follow through on a campaign promise so you want it irrespective of anything else and that's very valid and clearly trump has decided that uh that's what's going to happen this should have been done i think a lot of people recognize now sooner a lot of you were calling in and demanding it to which i just kept saying yeah i want more transparency i don't have the files right it says it's not in my power to release them all we can do is air as we did uh our sense that there's there's more here and that there's more to be uncovered and i think that that has certainly happened i think that has certainly been a a very real um motivation here right uh telling people having the trump base come forward and say we don't have the answers we want we're not accepting anything else it's time for this all to come clean uh now speaker johnson he is pointing out here this is cut one he's saying that the president has nothing to do with it democrats are going to weaponize it just be prepared for this they're going to attack trump even if his name doesn't appear one more time in the files play clip one this is a political exercise for democrats and it pains me to say it i wish that was not the truth but it is it's undeniable this is as deceitful and dishonest as their pointless stunt was to shut the government down democrats are using the epstein tragedy the unspeakable evils that this guy committed with his trafficking ring and all of the the abuses that they that they made these young women go through they're using that as a political weapon to try to distract from their failures as a party and to try their best to try to tie president trump somehow into this wretched scandal the president had nothing to do with it he's been very clear and he has nothing to hide and that's why he's endorsed the vote today i i think that's where we are i think the president is about to show all of his naysayers detractors haters they're haters they're not detractors and they're deranged in many cases they hate him in a way that is that is irrational and that is extreme to the point of being unhealthy trump derangement syndrome but they're not going to ever say that it's enough you can never convince the people who have been trying to dirty trump up with epstein that there's not more to be found that would prove that trump is really the bad guy so just be prepared for that and in fact chuck schumer is out there saying already that this is and this is cut three one of the worst most damaging moments of the trump presidency this will go down as one of the most damaging moments of donald trump's presidency in trying so hard to hide the truth donald trump has provoked the fiercest rebellion he's ever faced among his own supporters both in congress and around the country all the lying all the broken promises about transparency all the bullying and threats to members of congress who wanted these files released it's all blown up in donald trump's face his usual methods of intimidation and dishonesty have failed spectacularly in this instance so we are to believe if you listen to chuck schumer there who's had a rough go of it lately you know the whole schumer shut down disaster for him politically people are realizing the guy's too old whatever fastball he used to have is no longer there chuck schumer is saying this is such a disaster we are to believe that the biden doj which was on a jihad against trump we are to believe that they had derogatory information about donald trump while they were prosecuting him in two federal criminal trials that were as we know political totally politically motivated but that they they didn't release this how does that add up you know they never really addressed this they just didn't pay attention it's not hard you have all these files especially now with ai i'm gonna tell you something you could find trump's name and find every reference to him in seconds doing a simple search and you could use ai to find anything that even vaguely is trump adjacent in all these documents so don't tell me oh they didn't have the manpower they didn't have the ability to figure this out no they're doing this because for one thing unfortunately they have been successful in completely changing the national political conversation away from the stupidity the selfishness and the absurdity and the destruction of the schumer shutdown they've already managed you notice does it even feel like we had a month long government shutdown for no good reason except for a democrat tantrum feels like it was years ago now because they've completely shifted the conversation that's already happened i can't stop it you know i wish i had the power to direct the whole national conversation we've got millions of you who listen but there's 350 million people in the country when you add all the illegals something like that so here we are and uh we're gonna see trump uh we're gonna see trump signing this and then there's going to be more files released and we'll continue to work through them i do not believe there will be a smoking gun i was actually uh on with pierce morgan for his show which will be airing uh later today and pierce dramatically strenuously disagrees with me on this he thinks that there are people who are going to go to prison over the what's in the i complete i just don't see it because the doj then would have to admit that they were holding files that should have brought prosecutions for for child sex traffickers really they're right the doj i mean i'm not saying that it's impossible to believe the doj would do that but it's pretty extreme that's that's quite a stretch and then they're going to release it and have to say oh yeah we were covering up for these guys are people even going to accept this ask yourself this question ask it now are people going to accept if they do put out all the stuff they've got in their possession will there be an acceptance that this is everything that they really have will we ever get all the answers this is the reality of this moment we find ourselves and i want to take your calls take your uh talk backs on this 800 282 2882 uh i've been on the show for four years and pure talk has been a steadfast part of the program i should be five years in june little known fact they wanted to be the first sponsor you heard when clay and i came together to co-host this program so we totally appreciate them we never forget that let me tell you though about their 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what mr clay was doing so this is uh it's what we call a tease in the business so he'll be joining us i can tell you the country he's in and i told him if he doesn't come back 10 pounds heavier by the way we're going to rack and stack your epstein calls as soon as after clay calls in so call in 800 282 282 how do you feel about this transparency act what do you think's going on here is this going to be enough uh you know let's let's hear from you so many of you demanded from this administration what is happening here so let's hear from you what do you think about this step is it enough look would you be prepared if somebody broke into your home what's the first thing you'd grab to defend yourself and your family you want products from sabre in that moment my friends sabre is the number one pepper spray brand trusted by law enforcement which is the same one by the way the same brand that i have in my home and clay has in his sabre spelled s a b r e and the website is sabre radio dot com 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augustus um and uh i got to go and see the pope today in the vatican um to uh to you know complete this uh this idea that we had which i think was a pretty cool one to invite the pope to come to chicago and throw out an opening pitch for the chicago white socks so all of this has uh has happened today it's evening getting ready to go out and have some wine and uh have a good dinner but uh it was an awesome day so that was the super secret trip i didn't want to step on anything about the uh about the process of getting that invite out to the pope but uh got to meet the ambassadors uh to italy and the uh and the uh vatican city um got to be there for the uh for the offer to the pope um and uh there's video and uh and footage i think that's going to be up on out kick soon that we'll try to get shared with you guys so so so you um you have met with the pontiff you're not you're not a catholic right clay i am not yeah and and you're not and uh but it was it was a uh yes but yeah certainly um what i'm gonna say is for uh of people right for our catholic audience is like a really really big deal uh you know it'd be amazing to uh to be able to actually meet the pope in person what was it like i mean take us through this so it's a big did he did he tell you that you know nick saban is the greatest of all time like did he make a sports choke like did he bless you take us take where did you see him you got to give us some of these details so on wednesday um they do a open public forum uh uh sort of uh pope address uh in many different languages you know with probably 10 15 000 people maybe more than that uh in the uh in the square outside of st peters outdoor it was a great weather um i i believe they have a big public area down um uh on the uh in the in the larger sort of plaza there uh we were up uh close to the stage he does all of his uh all of his homily his address um in multiple different languages and then afterwards there are people that he greets and um the new owner of the Chicago white socks happens to be a law school classmate of mine um and uh we were a couple of months ago sitting around trying to think of ways that he could introduce himself to the people of chicago and uh i had seen that jadie vance presents a chicago bears jersey to the pope and i said you know what we should uh you should uh invite him to come and throw out the first pitch um at a proposed new stadium that they are in the process of of working through in chicago for the white socks and uh that seems like a good idea and then the process of okay well how do you get in touch with the pope to be able to get a uh a meeting um he seems really really excited at the idea he got a uh for people out there who are sports fans the chicago white socks won the world series in 2005 and pope leo obviously not the pope then was in the crowd at the world series and uh and so he's a huge white socks fan and so my uh my friend the the new owner one of the new owners soon to be officially the owner got the whole team from 2005 to sign a white socks jersey from that year and then um also conveyed the offer to the pope you know schedule permitting uh for the pope to come and throw out the first pitch when they open the stadium pope hasn't been to my knowledge to chicago since 1979 uh so again this happened early this morning in uh in the vatican and uh is is becoming a big story obviously in chicago and i think a lot of people are finding it to be uh and just a you know awesome cool story in general overall if you are you know there's not a particular political connotation to it or anything like that uh but if you are a fan of uh of sport it's just kind of cool to have an american pope and someone who is going to uh to hopefully in the next couple of years be able to come to chicago and uh and and do something incredibly unique and awesome in the uh in the city so that's kind of so the offer was made but we don't we we don't yet know if the pope is going to be able to do this is that is that right well he just i mean the pope's schedule as one might imagine is very busy um he said that he wants to do it we've got to figure out exactly what the date is but it's kind of what i would say is a conditional acceptance he knew that the offer was coming he was excited to be able to get the offer to get the jersey to be able to meet um and i think he's going to uh i think he's going to try and uh and and i mean he said he's going to try and do it so it could it should be a pretty awesome uh event look at you lobe trotting making just trying to do good things and make the world a little bit better places everyone assumes that i always will be trying to do and and clay clay is uh is making his making his moves over there at the the catholic rock of st peter that is the church uh so now tell me what you think about the epstein file since we got you on the phone since we got you i mean you know i'm glad that everybody has voted to release a buck you've got the rest of the show i am going to have abundant amounts of wine tonight and have a great dinner in rome uh you uh you brought i i hope that uh all right uh that you have i'll handle it i'll handle it you you go have some gelato with laura and the kids go have fun and a very cool congratulations on the meeting with the pope and uh thank you sir come come back uh friday or monday whatever you got we'll see you then okay we'll do i'll see you have fun man have a good dinner so i decided there you go to claim at the pope so there's that and that was why he was uh he was gone this week it's very exciting very exciting the pope um also we did have i was going to read the email from from sissy who said that that's what she thought was happening and that's a pretty remarkable pretty remarkable call she said i'm looking forward to hearing the details of clay's super secret trip on the show my guess is he got a once in a lifetime interview with the pope since he's a baseball fan just a wild guest there you go you nailed it and sissy we got your follow-up email oh my goodness i got it correct clay and the pope maybe i should buy a lottery ticket so we did have said that was before clay tweeted about this or put it out on x but this was before that happened clay was supposed to reveal this on the show but he's clay he does whatever he wants so there we are um team why don't we because because we're gonna have kind of a hard turn coming up here into the world of uh from meeting with the pope to the release of the epstein files we have a little bit of a of a transition to do and we'll uh rack and stack some calls and some talkbacks on this one uh because i think that what we are seeing is hopefully what many of you have been demanding all along we also have the white house weighing in on the filibuster via caroline levitt and trump really rolling out the red carpet for the saudi leadership which is something that i i think he this is a good thing for the region a good thing for america for the middle east i mean good thing for america i think you might see a normalization of relations between israel and saudi arabia under this trump presidency furthering the abraham accords and i think you might see the big move uh in the in the middle east with regard to that and trump is trying to bring that about of course there are the detractors the haters out there the people who are upset that trump would sit with the head of state of a country that whether we want to deal with the saudi's or not is critical to our energy infrastructure or rather uh energy markets and we really don't have a choice so why not have a constructive relationship with the saudi's why not try to encourage them to uh yes invest in america which is a huge focus from trump but also to do what they can to uh liberalize i know saudi arabia is an autocracy i'm fully aware of the and i know about the past uh with saudi arabia's role in unfortunately exporting the uh what we used to refer to very much as the wahabist ideology which is a radical interpretation of islam setting up what wahabist mosques all over the world and they've moved away from that they've become a constructive partner for security in the in the region and they're making uh overtures toward a better relationship with israel and that would be very helpful for middle east peace and stability so that's why that's going on also something else we're gonna have uh michael wotley joining us later he's running for senate up there in north carolina very important senate seat and there's some major immigration enforcement operations underway in north carolina that there's pushback of course from democrats what's really going on there when i tell you i have some stats when i tell you how many kids are staying home because of immigration illegal alien immigration enforcement in north carolina i think you're gonna be pretty shocked and it gives you a sense of how enormous the scale of illegal immigration is and the costs associated with this you are paying for this especially if you live in north carolina live in these these districts where the kids are staying home you're paying for english as a second language training in all in these schools you are bringing in students from abroad who are going to be far beyond a far behind we already have too many americans behind grade level let me way behind grade level and hold the rest of the class back let me think about this if english is not their first language and then they're put in these classrooms there's just so much going on here we'll talk to michael wotley about the immigration enforcement component of this coming up and like i said we'll get to your calls here epsin files trump is signing it congress has said all right you're getting the files is this good enough assuming it happens is this good enough is there more what do you think give us a call look clay unfortunately doesn't have a rapid radio right now technically i think that would be too 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anything about what's already been done yes everyone should be prosecuted that's done wrong and that in that sense with abstein but where is the unity of congress when it comes to the economy of our nation well i mean that's thank you for calling in sir yeah there's there's unity on this issue now and we'll see how long the sense of unity lasts after this information is made public because i think it will be very rapidly and in bad faith uh really weaponized and transformed if it has to be when it will have to be in my opinion uh to be somehow an attack on donald trump uh that's that's what's going to happen as for why there's not unity well because they're lunatic communists who are emotionally unstable and don't view the world as it is and we're trying to actually deal with a complicated world like adults as uh as the right as republicans that's that's the reason we can't get unity it's unfortunately that's the way it is and that's where we are anna in raleigh north carolina what's going on anna thanks for taking my call you're welcome can you hear me yeah we all hear you i think it's i think it's about time i do i think it's about time that everything comes out about abstein all those that were involved in it need to be prosecuted end all the conspiracies be done with it be done with it because nobody in the country is going to hear anything else until this is over do you think this will be the end of it in terms of transparency demands and the information or do you think that this is just another step in the process well well that depends whether or not if any arrests come out of it uh there we go that's a big uh that's a big uh and very valid very valid point of race thank you so much for calling in let's take some talkbacks here sonny from scott's dale arizona bb bb hello hi clean buck i am a huge fan of the guys every day i'm in scotland arizona and it just makes me so mad that they cannot stop attacking donald trump they had every chance to get the etching files open when biden was in office and they did nothing and now trump is trying to be transparent with this besides taking care of everything else and they're still attacking them just pisses me off yeah it i i feel the same way about this i think that they you know also i'll tell you something as as a man there's something particularly um galling and outrageous about people knowingly falsely insinuating some kind of uh sex crime or sexual impropriety and they're doing this to trump all the time and you know ask any guy it's it's such an underhanded thing to do and this is what they've been doing whether it was the they've been doing this against tromba along there's all kinds of accusations they've leveled against him and they're gonna i think unfortunately they're gonna continue to do this so uh we will continue to talk about this situation next hour we'll have michael wattley former r and c chairman and uh north carolina senate candidate talking about the immigration raids in north carolina and uh we'll also look at how the democrats are positioning themselves with this epstein release and else oh and trump talking about saudi arabia and how the he said i think a trillion dollars of investment he's trying to get from the saudis trillion dollars real money everybody we'll discuss all that and we'll take your calls and we'll keep rocking on the show and we will bask in the holiness maybe there's a halo over clay's head after his meeting with the pope this is an i heart podcast