Honey, I Shrunk The Footage! More Exclusive TPUSA Shenanigans. | Ep 379

All right, you guys, happy Thursday. Last show, before we go on a break for a week, I am a lot to say, a lot to share. I'm just over here reflecting on everything that Turning Point USA has put me through in the last 11 months. How completely unacceptable it is, I don't know, because since I'm getting like fatter, more pregnant, I do get a little bit angrier when I'm growing a boy. But it's just the lies, the attacks, the full time influencer, the ring of influencers that are going after my family, journalists, working with them to insert stories about me implying that I'm the true assassin of Charlie Kirk. It just can't stand, at least not today. Andrew Colvet's, by the way, is lying so badly, he brought on Andrew Wilson, who I defeated last Friday onto their Beavis and Butthead platform. And he tries to smear me. I'm talking about Andrew Colvet, not Andrew Wilson. He tries to smear me as a Hitler lover. And the smear was so bad, him blaker like, rrr, rrr, rrr, is what they do, that Andrew Wilson actually interjects. Yes, the person that I just debated was the one who interjects and is like, okay, to be fair, that's not really what happened. I have to show you that. It's just unbelievable and really demonstrates what this organization has become and how they just regularly engage in smears and in lies. It's just, we'll get into it. But first, the purpose of these lies, we know are just to distract us from the investigation. They don't want to discuss any of the footage that we've been presenting on the show. They don't want to answer any relevant questions that we've been raising. So that signals to me that we need to stay focused, that they are coming undone and we need to keep the heat up. Let's do that today. I've got some footage for you. Welcome back to Candace. ♪ And hold me right in the face now ♪ ♪ And hold me right in the face now ♪ Okay, I'm feeling spicy today. I'm just gonna launch a hand grenade right at the top. I should have been wearing my second favorite shirt, but I'm not. Ready, tarot barn to earth. Let's jump right back into this. Again, what I am showing to you is within approximately 10 minutes of Charlie getting hit. And we just showed you that tarot takes his laptop. It looks very much like he inserts an SD card into it and an SD card that he just happened to take out of a camera. It appears that he is accessing that footage. What I'm going to show you is that he even seemingly consults with Philip Goldsbury. Now you may remember, we mentioned Philip Goldsbury. We did a whole episode. He is the guy who miked Charlie for that final time and he was working with tarot barnsworth working under tarot barnsworth at visual impulse. That's why you guys see this footage. We're gonna watch it here. Nice hand grenade. All right, what do we got here? We're point there, keep your eye there, gets up. And he shows something on his laptop to Philip Goldsbury. He sits there and he just gets busy on his laptop. Looks like he's putting in actually, looks like he's maybe putting something else in there. Maybe a second SD card, not exactly sure. I'm just letting you guys watch this so that you can see, we were told by Andrew Colbert that he was worried about people stealing hats. I don't, I'm not getting that sense. It doesn't seem to be a priority. Keep your eyes there so you can see he's just on his laptop. On that laptop, moving those hands, tip tapping away. Check him back, make sure nobody is looking. That is important. Man, if I thought there was a sniper running around, I'd probably be going to a car to do this, somewhere safer to do this. I'm always amazed that it seems like they knew they were okay. Again, this is within 10 minutes. I'm trying to go down. Yesterday, I joined Annika Sparion on her program for an interview and she asked a question that is on a lot of people's minds regarding all of this. Take a listen. >> I don't want it to be lost on our audience, so I want to reiterate. He never provided, and this is based on the testimony that you can hear for yourselves during the preliminary hearing. He never provided the SD card. The original SD card to the investigation, he just provided the Google links and a flash drive, which would indicate that there's a possibility of evidence tampering, no? >> That's actually a fair question. And it becomes even more fair question as we demonstrate to you, but he went onto his laptop. And the truth is from what I've researched, it could be a legal gray area, but maybe not really. I'll just tell you what I found. Broadly speaking, yes, everything that we saw, Gerald Dew, in terms of violating the crime scene, using Charlie's chair to climb up and remove the camera that was behind Charlie's head, and then taking that SD card and sorting it into his pockets, potentially altering it, could indeed register as a very serious legal offense. In the state of Utah, he could be charged with a felony for tampering with evidence, just as he suggests, which is defined under the Utah code as altering, destroying, concealing, or removing a thing or item with the purpose of impairing its ferocity or availability of the thing or item in the proceeding or investigation. Now, I wanna try to understand that in terms of what we saw. Again, what we are doing here is looking at the evidence of our eyes under the Utah 11/02 rule. They were doing what Erica's prosecution did, her prosecution team did at the preliminary hearing, looking at the videos and referring upon what we believe we see. What is not in dispute is that Terrell did, in fact, remove a physical object from the crime scene, okay? That's not in dispute. He then immediately goes behind the tent, puts in his pocket, would that count as concealing? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But let us be charitable and accept Andrew Colvet's excuse that his intent, which does actually matter, his intent was not to steal, but rather to protect, because he really was just trying to secure the SD card from the evil people who were stealing hats. But then what he does next, in my opinion, goes beyond that measure, beyond that predicament, because with the SD card now safe and sound in his pocket, what was his impetus to then take it out and started into what I presume to be his personal computer? This, of course, is very crucial, right? Because it would disrupt the chain of evidence. That's a crucial chain, right? Who touched everything as it went along? Because it presents a real opportunity for the files to have been altered. Now, did he zoom into the shot on that camera altogether? Did he take the footage, zoom in, and then take that zoomed in footage and send a Google link over to SBI? We don't know. What we can say for certain is that he had zoomed in by the time he presented it to me, 90s later. What we also know, of course, the testimony of David Hall, the lead investigator, is just as Anna Kasparian stated, is that he did not hand over that physical object that he took from the crime scene, the SD card, over to the lead investigators who were on the scene, who arrived on the scene around 130, I believe he said. Again, that was demonstrated in court, so they received a flash drive never accounted for SD cards. Now, as for what could be the gray area here, a question that might arise would be surrounding his intent? Again, did Terrell know that it was a crime scene? Well, Terrell himself was the first to suggest that it was actually he declared, you will recall in a selfie video, that Charlie was dead. Specifically, he said, he's dead. Within two minutes, within two minutes, approximately, of Charlie getting hit, Terrell knew that Charlie was dead. So I would argue on the basis of a selfie video, that it would be hard to suggest that he was not aware that it was a crime scene or that a crime had taken place. Or left that with the possibility that Terrell was texting someone who had authority who told him within three to four minutes to secure the footage, but I struggled to understand who would have had that authority, plus Terrell's number to do that so quickly. And I also want to remind you guys that Tyler Boyer, a while ago, claimed on X that it was police that told Terrell to grab the footage. Remember, he tweeted this when people were asking, hey, why is Terrell tampering, appear to be tampering with evidence? He replied and he said this, dude, did not tamper with anything. A law enforcement officers asked them to turn them over immediately so they didn't get lost in the commotion before they took everyone into lockdown. My message is directly pointed at people like you who are promoting completely made up theories and therefore putting targets on these guys. Knock it off. Now I replied to this on my show at the time because I said that's not what Terrell told me. I asked him explicitly, he never, ever once claimed that that was true and I also want to say that as our timeline grows tighter, it's hardly possible that law enforcement officers on the scene told him to secure the footage because Terrell's video, which he sent me, recording himself as metadata. And Terrell was filming himself until just after 1226. So Charlie gets a 1223 and Terrell is filming himself until 1226 and 16 milliseconds. It's around almost precisely 1228 that he begins taking the camera down. That's like a minute and a half for someone on the law enforcement to tell him, hey, could you secure that footage? And I think we can safely rule out Alan Robertson because you have to go, okay, well, what law enforcement officers were around who could have done that. Did you come right up and say, and Alan said, get the footage? We can safely rule out Alan Robertson for having told him to do that because Alan would have no idea who Terrell is. He would have had no idea that it was Terrell's cameras, that it was his setup in that short time frame. Remember, Alan Robertson, we determined, was just visiting from Utah State University. He was undercover because he was there to check out the protesters ahead of the event. He was upstairs when Charlie went down, he was not speaking to any TPUSA people before this event. He didn't know he was from a hole in the wall. And I was told, and I will say allegedly here, but actually Terrell was told to do the exact opposite. He ignored instructions, okay, you should not disturb the crime scene, but he may have done so anyway out of nerves at people do make honest mistakes in a crazy situation with their under pressure, so there's that, but this narrative of the police told him to do that. Terrell himself never made that claim. So what is out of whack here is that has only come from Tyler Boyer, and I explicitly asked in that. I said, why did you do this? You could not tell me he spoke with police. The only person you will recall if you go back in my episode, I don't know if that was in October when we started speaking about this, but Terrell only told me that he spoke with Erica. He did not specifically say, when he spoke to Erica, so I want to be clear, I'm not suggesting that she was directing him to take the cameras down. I'm just asserting that factually the only person that he mentioned to me that he spoke to was Erica, and he also offered that as his excuse and reason for jumping immediately to grab the footage. My understanding was that it was out of his own volition because he did not want Erica to have to see Charlie die in 4K, and then I pushed back and I said, what are you talking about? The whole world saw him die in 4K. Why would this back footage somehow save her from that? And that's why I thought things were weird because everybody was saying something different. You had Tyler saying the police said it. You had Terrell saying that he did it out of his own volition to protect Erica, and you had Andrew Colbert saying to the public that this was because he was fearful that people were going to steal hats. It was suspicious. The most crucial question, however, is whether or not he altered the footage, whether or not he zoomed in on that back footage. What is he showing Philip Goldsbury, by the way? What is there to show Philip Goldsbury approximately 10 minutes after your founder was murdered on your laptop? Was he playing Wordal? Was he showing him his score? These are all fair questions that deserve answers because I truly, when I sit down here and I say, let me play devil's advocates. And to be clear, when you play devil's advocate, you are advocating for the devil. But we will do this as a theoretical exercise. What could make sense that he is showing Philip Goldsbury on his laptop within 10 minutes after his founder was killed? He's registered. I knew Charlie was dead right away. Okay. So you know that he was just murdered. What's on the laptop? Tell me out. Actually, I want to hear your suggestions. Like, maybe there's something I'm like, hey, no, can it's like there was this one time that that happened when I was a part of something I decided to do while my laptop minutes. Make it make sense. I truly can't think of anything. Now on to another point. One of the stranger things that has happened throughout the course of me presenting evidence, I feel like evidence is positive. I don't know if it was a positive, negative, is people keep accusing me of lying? It's just unbelievable. People that are lying are accusing me of lying as they grow angry or an angry are that they are getting exposed as absolute shells. And you know, last week we presented and obviously went viral an image of the Maroon guy, which was presented at court. The influencers were shown this 4K clear footage and they failed to mention what I would have mentioned if I saw it, which is that this guy looks to be wider, a lot wider than Tyler Robinson. I go online and I have that unhinged Canadian lawyer claiming that I used AI, claiming that I'm lying, that I'm essentially committing a type of fraud, right, to try to win what's all I want to win is finding out what actually happened on that day who killed Charlie Kirk were more people involved. And it was nonsense. I mean, influencers came out and said that I was tricked, that somebody who gave me this is lying. And obviously people looked at their eyes and they said, no, the cars are clearly completely squished in the footage that the court showed. It's very obvious that something happened here and it wasn't Candace. Candace looks like she corrected the measure. They're like, oh, well, she used AI, I do that. Well, that's not true. And I should, by the way, correct that I got an email informing me that the correct way to describe this, what was done to the footage is not to say that it was compressed, you should say that the aspect ratio was decreased to make everything look squeezed. It's more technical, more technically correct to say the aspect ratio was decreased rather than saying compressed. Okay, we all know no one's ever accused me of being a tech genius, but the point is it was squished. Okay, the footage that you saw in court that I saw in court was in effect modified. My government source confirmed that the people online, like I said, accused me of AI. So I don't know, I'm feeling like we should show you the footage now in video forms so you can see that I did not do that and they lied as always. Take a look at this. There you go, and we will show you this in slow motion so that there is no confusion that we did not edit anything. Here it is in slow-mo. Okay, I'm waiting for everybody now to move on to the next lie that you're going to tell. I can't even believe this. It's just it's so crazy to be that they need this to be Tyler Robinson, and they are not open to examining this case, which has so many flaws in it. And it really does seem like they're trying to just pin it on this guy. There are a few things that I want to say because many people assumed, and even myself in some ways, even though I didn't express it, that the court was behind this. That the court somehow edited the footage, but actually, I received an email from someone who would know clarifying that it is highly, highly, highly, highly, highly unlikely. That it was the court that did this. They wrote, "I am a blank that works in a federal court. Please do not mention my name or identity in any way, but I can tell you categorically that in every federal court that I have worked in, a video and photo evidence is never altered in any way, as it would be considered prejudiced to present it to the jury if it has been modified in any way. I just wanted to let you know this best of luck with your continued investigation." So after receiving that, I went back through the preliminary hearing and it was trying to establish this chain of custody, and actually realized that we were told, we were informed of the chain of custody from agent David Hull, the lead investigator on the case who did not receive the SD cards. He told us that on that very first day on September 10th, Sergeant Mark Bricker of the SBI was put in charge of gathering all of the surveillance on campus at UVU, and when he later on addressed right before they presented the 20-minute sizzle reel, which has the adjusted aspect ratio, he testified that it was the Utah County's attorney's office that created it. So when we saw that 20 minutes, that was put together by the Utah County's attorney's office. Take a listen to him saying that. And I asked you this question yesterday, but did you prepare that video compilation? I did not. Okay. Do you know who did the Utah County attorney's office? Okay. So for clarity, the prosecution, the prosecution, the side that is representing Erica Kirk presented that it potentially, it was them that decreased the aspect ratio. Maybe it was the SBI that remained open, that decreased the aspect ratio. But somebody did. And the question is who did it and why did they do it? And the only answer I can come up with is because they wanted people. people to believe that the person that was walking was skinnier than they were. And the only thing come up with as to why they would want that to be the case is because they are hell-bent on presenting an argument that makes people think that Tyler Robinson acted alone and murdered Charlie Kirk on the rooftop. That has been the narrative from beginning to end. They will not pivot from it. They will not consider new facts. They will not address any of the evidence I am bringing up. They will just routinely dismiss it and say that all I have are vibes and dreams. And canis never has any real evidence. The talking points are just growing increasingly absurd because I can't imagine how much more evidence we could present. I could actually. I could imagine it because we're going to do it. But I wanted to show you that just to shut down another lie and to tell you that you were completely justified in still believing in your own eyes and ignoring the final instruction from these people who want to tell you what you are seeing when it is not in fact what you are seeing. Did Tyler Robinson do this? Proof it. That's on you. It's on you to convince us and to not use tricks like modifying or altering footage. Potentially, Terrell, we'd love to know what happened here. If he did do that, if he did zoom in, the answer is the question becomes why he do that. But I will say this, I tend to agree that it is because as nissy demonstrated in YouTube, again, this is my opinion, it showed what happened below. I think that if there was an impetus to zoom in on that footage, it would be because you did not want it to show the traditional shot of what was happening at Charlie's feet. Anyway, that's my opinion. I'm thinking to it, we'll be right back to address Andrew Colbert, who is just off the chains right now. There's so many lies told. Like I said, even Andrew Wilson had to put an end to one of the smears that he was trying to spin on the Davidson Butthead show this morning. I will be right back after a break. All right, you guys. Let's talk about how expensive everything has become. I mean, it's bad enough that grabbing a burrito and a drink for lunch can cost you more than $20. What makes it worse is that your dollar buys about one-third less than it did just a few years ago. Here's the question. If your money keeps losing value, what are you doing to protect your savings? One answer is gold. In fact, central banks around the world are buying more gold than they have in decades because it's held its value for thousands of years. Even legendary investor Ray Dalio recommends keeping up to 15% of your portfolio in gold. 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That's dosedaily.co/candis for 35% off your first month's subscription. All right. You guys today on the Beavis and Butthead show, so fitting or Andrew Colvet and Blake Neff. They were joined by Andrew Wilson. That is not their horse. I know what you're thinking. It really seems like turning point USA is something to do with this guy. No, they made it very clear. They don't. He just went in there and came out and suddenly really wanted to go hard at Candace Owens. Anyway. It starts obviously the conversation with just an exceptional, hoping session. What I love about Andrew Colvet, just saying something nice about him, is he is completely unaware of himself in a way that is, I don't know, you have to envy it. He's so unaware of himself. He thinks that he can just say words and he's also a very bad liar. He's going to establish all of that in this conversation. He can't remember things that he said last week. Obviously, he doesn't have a timeline. He should have a timeline because then he wouldn't make these sorts of mistakes. Let's just start with Andrew's cope of him basically trying to suggest that I won the argument but not really because it's going to age in the future and then I'm going to lose the argument maybe. This is what he had to say. I predicted that this debate that you were going to win it because the truth is on your side, right? And as somebody who's lived this firsthand, I know all the garbage when they continually drone on about this stuff and how many lies are continually laced in and just repeated ad nauseam so that the internet begins to believe them. So I knew that but I knew also that she has a bigger following, bigger followers on YouTube, whatever. So I knew that immediately there was going to be this rush to say who won and but I predicted this. This will age really well because what I was watching is that she conceded the whole debate very early on, multiple times at every different point in juncture. She kept conceding the point, walking things back and that as the commentary, it kind of comes in that has an IQ above room temperature and pointed that out for people that it was going to then be this kind of finishing effect after the debate. Is that what you have seen? True. It is not wine, okay? Debates don't age. You don't keep them in a cellar on a consistent temperature and tell people to open it up in a few years and it'll sound better. He just lost and that's okay. By the way, that is actually totally fine. That happened sometimes. It could happen to me in the future. And what's really funny about hearing this sort of a cope is that as you guys know, Charlie trained me in debating and one of the things that he always said was, if you lose a debate, own it. Own it. The internet will forget if you have a bad moment, they will not forget if you try to gaslight them and pretend it didn't happen. And so you're supposed to just come right out and be like, look, was it my best day? Definitely realize that I could have delivered this better or that better. And like, you know, I actually, somebody who did this and the internet kind of a little bit forgot about it was when Ben Shapiro did BBC and he got completely crushed in a debate kind of got bratty and said, I'm famous or something and wanted to end the conversation. He did end the conversation so he sort of stormed off and it went completely viral. And but he went on to his platform and he said, yep, I own that. I was not prepared. Here's what I did wrong and that is so much more preferable to audiences because they're not being gaslight. Obviously he did it, he was terrible, just own it and people will forgive and forget. But obviously they are not carrying on the torch for Charlie whatsoever. Anyway, I want you to hear how Andrew Wilson responded. 100%. So essentially what happened here was really interesting. The Baron Coleman's of the world and the sort of law to picked all of this up and just started tearing her position to pieces immediately. And the commentators in the debate sphere are just making a mockery of her. They think that she's lunatic has no idea what she's talking about. And then on the flip side to that too, you even have Main Street coverage and even on the Main Street coverage, it's the same thing or like, well, where's any of the evidence for any of these supposed claims and we never got to any. So not only will it age well, but what what I thought that it would do more than anything else to be miscended as possible. I thought that it would up the pressure of people questioning the questioners. And I've seen a lot of that now moving on social media of people saying, hey, wait a second, where is the actual evidence? I got hundreds of DMs, for instance, from people who didn't know that the steakhouse received was a complete phony fraud that the whole thing is a fraud. Well, can I just say something that that was the case? Can I just say something? So we have Andrea Burkart. She's going to join us on the show tomorrow. She is apolitical as it comes, like she is not like on a side at all. And I asked her, I said, if they had exculpatory evidence, whether it's the parents that actually, you know, think he's innocent or they have some steakhouse receipt, would they not present that at the preliminary hearing? And she was like, absolutely, they would no, no lawyer, if they have exculpatory evidence that proves the timelines wrong, that proves the parents don't actually think it would not use that evidence because those lawyers are then basically binding their client over for three years in prison for something that he didn't actually do. They absolutely would have presented that evidence at preliminary hearing, okay? I still do not understand why they keep trying to imagine. that this penguin steakhouse cowboy steakhouse thing is fake and it's a fraud, it's just not. I don't know how many times I can say this. I guess I'm going to basically say to them what I said to Andrew face to face is you can keep saying this. You're going to eventually embarrass yourself. As I said, they got in touch with the FBI. The FBI is aware of this. The FBI took a statement from the odor I spoke to the who is doing the fraud, I guess is the question. Who's doing the fraud? Is the fraud in the room with us right now, guys? Like, I know that this completely blows up everything and that's why you guys are trying to convince the public that this didn't happen. But I spoke to the owner. The server has been has given an interview. There is a receipt. If you're trying to wonder why they didn't present this exculpatory evidence, maybe you should try paying attention to the hearings because back during the one in April, they kept saying that they did not get granted discovery that they had so many things that they needed to go through and that they wanted to take that time to the reason why they were asking for an extension on that preliminary hearing was because they had so many things to go through and they were not receiving their discovery request, which could have potentially included exculpatory evidence. This was found, this language thing was actually found by podcasters, podcasters who were investigating stumbled upon this. And like I said, the FBI was contacted. There is a report made. It happened. I'm so sorry you guys, but it happened. Now, is it possible if they weren't being absurd, they would just say, okay, yeah, I hear you, but Candice, is it possible that the server just misidentified him? And then I'd say, yeah, of course, there's always a possibility that people truly believe that they see someone a lot, Nick Mitch Snow, we did the Fort Watchuka thing. We can verify that this person was at the restaurant. We can verify that they called the FBI. We can verify that the owner pulled the receipt. We can verify what the person ate that there is a receipt and that it was paid for on a debit card, asking me to go to the visa merchant is absurd and insane. But it happened. I don't know what else to say to you. Like, okay, we're just going to keep following that, but that receipt is going to become critical and it could in fact prove to be exculpatory, so stay tuned. The next bit of what takes place on this show is a whole fake bit of transparency where essentially Andrew Colvet pretends that he's going to allow Andrew Wilson to ask them anything. Like, we're going to do what Candice wouldn't do. You can just ask us anything. Okay, so we're hoping that he's going to start asking him relevant things about the case, the many holes, the way that they're behaving. Some of the evidence that I've presented on this show, some of the videos that I have presented, asking him about potentially other players. No, all this means is please give me an opportunity to trash Candice. And he does this amazing thing. Andrew Colvet right out the gate tries to smear me as a Hitler lover. And it's so offensively dishonest that it's even too much for Andrew Wilson. He actually fact checks. First, you got Blake, you're going to see him laugh. She loves Hitler. And then just watch Blake's face transform as he realizes that Andrew Wilson's not going to let them get away with that. And he's like, I feel like kind of taking that way out of context. Take a listen. It's brilliant. Then she had that event where she basically said Hitler was great. If you just would have stayed, you know, in Blake, stayed in Germany, stayed in Germany, which, you know, there's a lot of problems. To be fair and charitable here, right? Just to be as unbiased as possible. I did go back and review that clip as that seemed like it was the turning point for turning point was that actual clip. Sure. It didn't. It seemed to me that she wasn't actually trying to make any sort of like apologetics for Hitler. But rather, she was trying to make a comparison to nationalism and saying that as a nationalist, she thought he did a good job. And that was, and then, you know, she basically just kind of mispoke and buried herself with that particular lead. But obviously, it became a massive PR nightmare for turning point, right? That's how that ended up playing out. Well, I think it's one of those statements where you can defend it and then, you know, in isolation. And then events afterwards, I think lend greater, greater clarity to it. It was part of the whole. Yeah. Like the defense you could make is, oh, she just meant, oh, he wanted Germany's economy to grow. He wanted to undue Versailles. She didn't mean the weird kill all the Jews. Except then, 2023, 2024, she actually becomes obsessed with the Jews all the time. Yeah, I would say it was part of a whole, though, to your point. Yeah, you could, if that was a one-off, you probably could have defended it. But then we had a bunch of chapters that were really up in arms about it. And then you had this, I think it was a Christchurch shooter in New Zealand that like said, she was, this guy was inspired by Candace. It was like a whole bunch of stuff. Just absolutely mortifying. And Andrew Wilson actually watched the clip. We weren't talking about Jews at all. And we were talking about the topic of nationalism. And I was asked a question specifically, like Candace, when you say that you're a nationalist, some people might attribute that to Adolf Hitler. And I said, well, it's not attributable to Adolf Hitler because Adolf Hitler, if he had just wanted to stay in Germany and make Germany great, we wouldn't have an issue with that. No, we'll have an issue with that. But he didn't just want to do that. He had ambitions outside of Germany. That's what I said. And they took that. And Blake, it is just a little sneering. We're going to try to lie, to try to make it seem as though I support Adolf Hitler. That is why Turning Point USA is trash. They are trash for that. There was no confusion. It was just an attempt to smear me. And it was a bridge too far for Andrew Wilson who said, okay, but like I watched that clip. And that's not what was happening. Then they obviously move on. And by the way, he says, old, well, then later on, she gets obsessed with Jews. First off, he's talking about a gap of 2018 when I was speaking about nationalism on stage with Charlie, by the way, they're leaving that part out as well. I was with Charlie and journalists were in the room and nobody had a problem with it at all. And then Buzzfeed pulls the clip months later. And then he fast-forward to says, oh, but you know, in 2024 later on, there was an issue where Candace said, you know, genocide is always wrong and that's when things are getting. She's obsessed with not killing children in Israel. That's what he really means. So then they move on and they try to reassert this idea that Charlie and I were not friends. And this is always my favorite one because Andrew is so accidentally stupid that he doesn't realize that he debunks himself in just like one sweeping statement. He's going to try to make fun and then he's going to debunk it. So listen to what Blake says and what Andrew says and I'm going to then allow you to listen to what Charlie said. Take a listen. And so I'd like to start by going all the way back and maybe you can tell us actually what the relationship was between Candace Owens and Charlie Kerr. What actually was it? Yeah, I'd like to go first there. You can go far more to say Andrew because I can just speak from my perspective as someone who arrived late 22 moved out here in 23 that I have never met Candace Owens and don't know her. Thank you. Maybe I saw her in person once at a distance. Probably not. Maybe a sugar hand. I've never had a conversation with her to my knowledge. And I think that speaks to something because I was with Charlie for close to three years. And I feel like I met most of the people Charlie was super close with. I met donors. I met his family members. I met his team. I met a lot and I don't know Candace. So I like to use that as a preface, but you have more that you can say about that. Yeah. And Blake, you have that great video that ever replace of you reacting to Candace. Oh, yeah. Where I'm kind of like raising my eyebrow. I'm afraid to say Blake was early on the on the being suspicious train. Yeah. If you go back far enough, I mean, that's why I mean, I put out that tweet basically saying, you know, Candace, your central foundational lie is that you and Charlie were friends. You were not friends, right? It showed me something from recent, you know, the end of Charlie's life, the last 12 months or whatever. I think she's she and then I said 18 months, 24 months. I think she showed something at 22 months and so I got community noted, right? Okay, whatever. What I can tell you is that I think Charlie and Candace were friends back in 2018, part of 2019, that did not end well at all actually. So weird, because if it didn't end well at all, it's a question because why were Charlie and Erica at my wedding at the end of 2019 and what's funny is he mentions this clip of Blake at the beginning of it, but that clip that he's referring to is Charlie discussing our friendship in November of 2023. So he's trying to say we have my friends in 2018, but he references this clip of Charlie and Blake looking unhappy about it because Blake didn't know Charlie, Blake didn't know who Charlie's friends were as he admits. He's like, I didn't meet Candace because I got married and had children and lived on the other side of the country. That's just how it works. My best friends I see about once or twice a year because we've moved friends that live in Florida, people that live in Connecticut. That's just the way life works when you get married and start having kids. The donors are not his friends, Blake. I know you guys love money, but when he says, I've met his friends, like, I mean, I know the donors. You're just a work colleague. So you see him every day at work. You don't know Charlie. You guys are not his friends. And this clip is what he is referring to, as he then moves on and says that we weren't friends until, since 2018, he keeps going backwards. It's like he keeps going a year back. Listen to Charlie and his own words in November of 2018. of 2023. >> I mean, Candace is, she's on our team. She's the best, right? I mean, we're on Team Candace, and I'm also, you know, I'm on Team Freedom Center too. But, you know, I got a text message from some lunatic, "Charlie, why do you have her still speaking in Amfest?" I said, "Lose my number." I said, "Lose my number." Wow. I said, "You obviously haven't been through the Charlie Tyler members." The Charlie Candace thing. I mean, probably. I never went out. You're married. [LAUGHTER] They thought you're a member, Charlie? They were like, "Are they married?" Oh, it was, it was like, by the way, it was like, "I got married." I'm substantiated internet rumor. Yeah, that's not true, but it's not true. Okay. I'm remembering some choice memes that I definitely don't have saved on my backup hard drives. I disagree with Jack. Can I, can I take a moment to- >> Yeah, Kyler Jack, right? Ron would- >> I disagree with Jack. She's not higher than him. On the graphic because her name's shorter, she's higher than him on the graphic because he's a white male. >> Wow. Wow. Racism. Racism, it turned- >> I mean, we have from- >> You know what, maybe Tyler. >> That's Blake. Did that. Blake was the one who was right after all. >> So they wanted to think that Charlie just is lying there. He's reminiscing and he's lying. And that actually, word team Candace, "Lose my number," he says to someone who wasn't his friend. It's just such an absurdity that they have to do this. And I have presented evidence every year, every year from 2018. They keep sticking to the 2018 timeline because after Charlie passed, I showed people text messages of Charlie predicting his own death in 2018 because that is relevant that in 2018, Charlie foresaw that he was going to die young and that I was going to carry on the torch saying be my David. I don't think I'm going to live this thing through when I signed on a dollar line, I'm starting point USA from the moment that I signed on a line with turning point USA, you started having visions of his own death. That is the reason that they started this ridiculous narrative that I didn't speak to Charlie since 2018. It's such a nonsense and it's so easily debunked, debunked so many times on this show. And yet they still are trying to push it because they have nothing left. They cannot respond to anything and they are trying to rewrite Charlie's history. Charlie and I were very close. We were like brother and sister and yes, we spent so much time together when we were obviously both single and once you become a parent and get married, your relationship has to change, your priority and also you have to have respect for his wife, which I did. He was married and he has respect for my husband, George, became close to Charlie. The whole year of our engagement, we traveled around with Charlie and we have so many memories. He has so many messages with Charlie. And so I don't know, it just makes me laugh and they think that they can do this. It's just not going to be possible. We just spent such a great time together and whenever we think about it, you see it on me as well. I just reflect on it with just so much happiness and I'm happy that I've gotten back to that where that anger that I felt and the grief that I felt is now moving into acceptance. Like I keep telling you where I'm able to just revisit everything and just be so grateful for the time that I have with Charlie and how staunchly we always defend each other whenever we were going through anything. And then of course in the very next breath, which I'm not going to show you, he then says, oh, he had, he totally had her back when she got fired from the daily wire. Yeah, Andrew, that's now, now your timeline is pushed up to 2024. I was fired in March of 2024. So how long are you trying to say that we weren't friends for? It's just such a nonsense, truly, let it go, Blake, nobody knows who you are, neither did Charlie. Okay, you started working for him in 2023. You're not laughing because you don't know anything. Tyler's laughing because he does. And it is, like I said, it was like a coming of age together and a real relationship was forged. And you just don't have the power to wipe that away. I'm sorry, Andrew, you can't even put your timeline together. Get a timeline. My timeline is my timeline is so good. Anyway, this part was the most incredible to me of like when he asks him, doesn't say positive evidence, but he asks him for an example of, you know, why, why I left turning point to a say and he says, I was difficult to work with. And here's what Andrew Colbert explains happened one time. Could you give more details there, even I would like to hear that, like what caused her to depart if we can say? Well, I mean, here, there's two things really. And part of it is you got to give credit where it's due. She was a rising star. She was growing really fast, you know, Charlie famously sort of offered her a job. What did you, sorry, if I missed something that you said, Andrew, okay. Oh, you're good. Yeah, so she was, you know, Charlie offered her a job, basically right on meeting her, kind of saw that she was somebody that could help turning point, help the movement in his opinion. And then they, they, you know, she explodes onto the scene, you know, Kanye had that tweet where it's like, I like the way Candace Owens thinks and it was, it was kind of like a rocket chip, right? And then they had, but she became more and more difficult to work with, more and more issues with the team. And then she had that moment when you say, when you say difficult to work with, what do you mean? I think, you know, she was very aware of her rising star power. And so she started exerting more demands on timing, on where she could be deployed, what schools it, it basically becoming like a pre Madonna. You could use that word. That's what I've, I've definitely heard complaints from people who have worked with it. Yeah. We started working with her later on just, you know, I think she canceled an event with us and our event team still tells the story, you know, like the day before and we had to scramble to get it replaced because you know, she ended up in like France with Kanye or something the next day. I just want to address that because again, it just, he's such a slime ball. That is the only time that I canceled an event with turning point, USA. So he's song with truth, by the way, that's 2022, late 2022. I thought me and Charlie were not supposed to be friends. Everyone remembers the moment that I went to France and I wore the white lives matter t-shirt. To obviously, it was not a planned trip whatsoever. I had no idea that Kanye was going to call me and he was going to invite me and because of our friendship, Charlie knew how much Kanye meant to me and this moment, the fact that we had built turning point USA, this machine, I had just also released documentary on Black Lives Matter. I had stumped so many college campuses for turning point USA, raising money with this vision of waking Black people up to the Democratic Party and some of the lies that, you know, this constantly being sold as a victim. So Charlie was there for that entire journey, like Charlie and me, Kanye, obviously, like he says, is the reason that turning point USA was put on the map. I love the way can someone thinks and then it was an absolute rocket ship for both of us, for me and for Charlie. And so when I called Charlie and I was like, I just got invited and he knew how much Kanye meant to me and my life and my growth and giving me the strength of his music, I'll constantly run to it. Charlie was running to it every single day and he knew that I had a moment to make all of this come together and go to France. I called him and I said, Charlie, like it was the only thing on my calendar, I had turning point USA event. I was like, I will literally give anything to be able to go and spend like, he was like, of course, you have to go. He was actually a demonstration of our unique friendship. Of course you have to go, please just get me a substitute for who can speak for you. I then called Michael Knowles and asked him if he would sub for me and I was unbelievably apologetic to the team. I had never, ever, ever in our entire working relationship had I ever canceled an event. And Andrew brings this up as if this proves that I was a diva. No, it proved that Charlie really knew how much something meant to me and we made it work and it was atypical and it was one time and it was at in late 2022. So I just wanted to answer for that because I couldn't believe he tried to repackage that as if like, I was some diva and was like, peace to the team. I'm just going to France to go shop and not that I had asked Charlie for permission to do that and he was just so gracious and amazing and supportive as he always was. And yeah, so if the event team is still talking about that, I tell him to get over it. I mean, it's just so ridiculous. It's still the worst thing I've ever lived through, like calm down. Anyway, I do also also want to show you this clip, which they're trying to push, which is Candace told me she was going to burn turning point USA to the ground. All right, Andrew, let us hear what you have to say. So I remember one conversation. It was probably like five or six days after and I remember I had flown to DC. We had JD Vance hosted Charlie show on that Monday after. So Charlie was killed on a Wednesday and then JD hosted the show on the Monday. So I remember I flew back landed in the airport and I believe I was talking to Candace and she said something that I've not publicly communicated yet. But basically it was, it was that if the wrong people take over the organization and she said this, I'll never forget it. She says, I will burn down that organization. I swear to God. And you mean turning point, turning point, if the wrong people and I just assumed because she was very obviously. The rumors at this time, like there is five days, six days after whatever it was. She said, I'm going to burn down that organization. I swear to God. And I just thought she meant if the Jews take over or something like that, let's just think people were throwing out because Ben Shapiro had appeared on the show. So people ran with like Ben Shapiro has now taken over. Well, he had to appear. I don't know if he had appeared on that. I think he was actually going to show up the next day on the Tuesday because. Yeah. Blake, you have no idea what you're talking about. Actually, if you go back and watch my show, I said early on and now I have a different opinion. I said, I think people that all fit. that Ben Shapiro, because he said pick up the bloody mic, wants takeover turning point USA, I said I think that that's just wrong. I'm on record saying that. So you can't just make stuff up, Blake, and pretend that I was taking the bait above Ben Shapiro. What I was actually taking the bait on was the conversations that I was having with Andrew Colvet on the phone. I was speaking to Andrew Colvet on the phone every single day, and it was Andrew Colvet, who was telling me, and we were speaking about a potential foreign angle in Charlie's assassination, okay? I can show you text messages, that effect. I can actually show you this call log if you can pull it up. He's talking about literally on August 14th. After he and I had been speaking, it was just you have the exact date. Andrew, in case you want to make a timeline September 14th, 2025, was when you and I spoke for 17 minutes. On the 13th, on the 12th, you were the one that was telling me about the Bill Ackman Summit. You were the one that was telling me about BB Net and Yahoo's letter, and telling me that Mike Makoi had this letter on Charlie's laptop, and you told me basically that Charlie in this letter said to that he was kind of pulling away from the issue of your cause. We talked about that extensively. You were the one that told me about the text messages, notice I'm saying plural text messages, to Dan Flood, and to yourself the night before, that Charlie thought that he was going to be killed, and you never, ever, ever once said, and when I spoke to other people who confirmed this, that it was the left. In fact, I specifically asked you, who was they? And you said, I don't know. You were the one who told me about that chat that Charlie saying I'm abandoning the pro-Israel cause. So don't make it seem like it's weird that I was thinking about Israel in those days, and then BB Net and Yahoo goes on and says, I didn't kill him, as you are feeding me this information that I would not have had otherwise about how Charlie declined to have BB Net and Yahoo on his show, and he was growing increasingly more agitated with Israeli involvement and willing to walk away from this. And I can even show a text message that I sent to you, and then we talked on the phone, because you're a PR agent, so whenever I have a text, you would call smart, smart way to do this. But where I even said to you, after BB went on and held up the letter, I messaged you because you were the one that told me about the letter and said this. Like, this was our conversation. I can't sleep, just destroyed September 11th. This is also September 11th, but you were on a plane, so it was coming in weird. You wrote same, in and out of sleep, and I'm up again. I said, who did this? This was a government hit. We need answers. And then you can see, in September 11th, you and I had a conversation. And I said, BB is lying about the contents of the letter that Charlie wrote him. He's making it seem like it was just him writing a love letter about how much he loves Israel. I know that's not true. And it's making me sick. And it wasn't true because Andrew Colbert was the one who told me about the letter. So it's just incredible. He is reintroducing this. As if Candice was like, she's going to burn, like I was basically saying that if this is true and there is foreign involvement, like we will burn this place to the ground. If they're staging this, try to take over his company, meaning we, because I'm talking to you, and this is Charlie's organization, and we don't know who killed him yet. We don't know what the motive was. And he was totally supportive and giving me more information. And now he's pretending like, oh, I don't know why she said that. I don't know what I was so scared. And actually, what he said to me on the 14th was no, on that front. We're good. We don't have to worry about that because the board has already voted in Erica. Don't say this yet. We're not announcing it publicly. But Erica is taking over the company. And what I said to him was, thank God. So he left that out. He left out the context that actually Candice became a bull. And as I was telling her information about how Charlie was pulling away from Israel as a possible, possible motive for what happened as we had no answers. I mean, this is four days after Charlie's assassination. We didn't know anything. We didn't know if there were foreign ties. We knew nothing. And he is giving me this Israeli narrative. Now, he's like, oh, I think she just thought it was the Jews. I don't know why. Well, you do know why Andrew that I thought Israel was involved in this and why I still believe that there is an Israeli angle and to try to rinse yourself out of that as the person who was my number one source on all this information is complete lunacy. And I think I have a message where I even said, give Erica my number. It was that on there where I was like, give Erica my new number. Like I 14th after we're talking about this. I'm angry now. I'm at a stage of real anger. Also, please send Erica my new number. She only has my old one. Your whole narrative that you're trying to sell now as if I was very happy that Erica was taking over the organization. And when I was fearful that there could have been some sort of outside foreign involvement in motive with Israel who wanted his organization for reasons that were not yet clear. But we all knew BB's behavior was very strange afterward. And you agreed with that. So try to tell the truth, Andrew. Try to put things in their proper context. Tell the truth about France and what was going on and why Charlie agreed to it. Tell the truth about why Israel was on my mind. What you've said about Bill Akman staging an intervention. What you said about Charlie declining to have BB on a show. Which you also admitted that you even expressed that concern to Joe Kent, which you now make it seem like he's an enemy. But you were the one who put the Israel narrative in everyone's mind. Andrew, it was you. And by the way, I think for the first time ever you were telling the truth. You were telling the truth. And then you suddenly pulled it all back and started lying and have been attacking us since the people who are trying to get to the bottom of this. And I I have to I don't know assume that you're doing it out of fear. That's I mean, that's the most charitable read on why you're lying in this way is out of fear because if you truly do believe that Israel had something to do with Charlie's assassination, then you would probably recognize they would have no trouble assassinating you too. Again, that is my most charitable read. But I wanted to put things in their proper context because this is all they have left. Of course, they spent no time going over any of the exposed evidence or answering any of the questions that we actually want to know from turning point USA because they're not going to do that. Anyway, we'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys. I have to tell you about something that I switched. That's made a huge difference for me and that is my cell phone service. I switched to peer talk and I genuinely love having them as my wireless provider from work to family to everything in between. I need my phone to work when I need it. So reliable service is important to me. 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Medina wrote, "Nice that you can spend time together before baby number five arrives. Happy anniversary, Candace and George. Thank you so much." A comment from today's episode, Roll Tide in Vegas writes, "The truth will come out regardless of whoever is trying to hide it. Thank you for your eye-opening work. I pray for the world to wake up to the evil that is all around us and for your safety. We know how it ends. God always wins. Crisis King. Enjoy your much-deserved week off. Thank you guys so much for that." And yeah, it's also just good because we're doing so much research and we just need to like break as a team. And you know, it's high stakes. We want to make sure that we're not making any mistakes that we're thoroughly building out our timeline, following up on leads, trying to close others. And that just takes time. So that's really why we started doing the six weeks on one week off structure, which has proven to be very beneficial for us. I think the show has gotten better because of it. Seven Sheets writes, "I have to do this for Andrew. Room temp IQ. So delusional. How's the Andrew Colvet channel going? Smart guy. Also, Blake never met her. Candace laughs. Yeah, we believe you Candace. And lastly, I'm going to miss you over your well-deserved break. Please never stop. We want justice for that undeniably great man, Charlie Kirk, and against those who are trying to hijack his important needed message. Yeah, I mean, I would, when we were discussing that, of course, it like if Charlie was killed for his company, that's the right perspective to have that I will breathe fire on this company. And then I thought everything was great because Erica took over. And now I'm going, oh my gosh, no, it actually isn't great. And I think that that's what's making Andrew so angry is that he knew more than I knew, obviously. And so what would have been taken as a sign of friendship, like, hey, let's get together. I always We said that to you, my mind says. in those early days was, I just never for a single second thought anything turning point USA would have indicated that turning point USA was suspicious. And I went in there with all a genuine heart, like basically saying to Andrew, like use me as your dragon because if this is how this went down and Charlie lost his life to this, I'm just so angry and like we have to fight. It was basically a call to war, yeah. And I'm, by the way, I'm very proud of that. I'm proud that I was loyal to Charlie and was willing to fight it. Whoever it is. And that's what I'm doing right now. I'm still doing that. I made that clear. I said that on my own show, my own show in those early days. You're not breaking any news. I said on my own show that anybody who did this, who was with or somehow coordinated and trying to take down Charlie for their own selfish means had made an enemy of me. And I meant that. And sure a sack is not because of some narrative that I wanted his company. Like I do not want to run a 501 to three. Thank you very much. My life is great. I don't even run my own company. So I'm good. Life is, life is good. Being a mom and being able to podcast. Bigfoot believer, right? Something that really saddens me is knowing in my gut that Tyler Robinson made friends with the bad crowd and is now sitting in jail for something that he did not do. And most likely be given life imprisonment. If not death, I have a 22 year old. I think about that. And it hurts my soul. You know, I've said from the beginning that I think he's got mixed up in something. I know that he was around campus that day because of a source. I am open to thinking that there are multiple people that are wearing a shirt. It's like, maybe Tyler is the one that's walking down the street. Maybe he dropped land. So I don't know. We were the ones that obviously revealed the dairy queen photo. So we know he was around campus that day. And I told you that the story that I got was that he was dumping clothes in the in a cemetery. Okay. What does that mean? Could that mean that his tampering with evidence charge is appropriate or obstruction of justice? If that's the chance. Perhaps. And I'm open to all of that. But the idea that he's the one who fired the shot at Charlie Kirk. I don't even know if a shot was fired. I don't even believe a shot was fired from the center. So forget whether or not he fired some miracle bullet shot and one and done and then jump off a rooftop. Absolutely not. I don't buy that. I'm at zero percent. That's what I'm at. I am at zero percent. A Tyler Robinson shot and killed Charlie Kirk from low zero top. Open to other theories about how he could have been involved and whether he got swept up in something because of Lance who I find to be remarkably suspicious. Impact CPA writes very important. Who was terrible texting after getting the SD card? Shapiro team again, like in the car going to the hospital. That video angle needed to be quickly checked and altered if necessary. Mike charge, a particular person. What or who go max? Well, it would be very helpful if they just came out and answered some questions and we wouldn't have the speculate. But we know that that's not going to happen. And they're going to say it's all in the purview of law enforcement. Capital T for truth writes TPSA likes making this harder for themselves. So called the text message from Charlie still does not put Tyler Robinson on the roof or the rifle in his hand. Now they have to prove he's on the left. Even Lance said that they never talked about Charlie or LGBTQ and and we're not supposed to have a reaction that apparently that yes, their entire narrative was that this was a political assassination and it was because he was radical on the topic of LGBTQ. And so they want us to believe Lance. When he hands over his messages, but not to believe Lance when he says that he was not political and they never talked about LGBTQ issues. It doesn't work that way. It does not work that way. Autumn writes Tweedle D in Tweedle dumb can talk to Smokey about you, but they can't just publicly talk to you. That would only prove them to be lying, conniving imbosols that they are. I pray for the day of reckoning, penance them. Truth daily go max girl. Honestly, like the laugh that like Blake is doing is just so fine to watch his face transform once he realizes that Andrew Wilson watched that clip and noted that I didn't do or say anything wrong. And they were literally trying to make me a Hitler apologist. It's really something. And like I said, exposes what their motives are. And yeah, I always say the offer still stands. I never asked to debate turning point. I would love to sit down with turning point publicly and to discuss these matters and maybe put some of these alternative theories to bed. That would be beneficial. I think for both sides, but they are in such a place of anger and spending money to just have people try to destroy me. And we have spent zero dollars, zero dollars trying to get anybody to go after them. We've just been focused on trying to solve this case and noticing a lot of inconsistencies. Thumbelinas grace writes gosh, they are so exhausting. It's like watching three church ladies meeting at the fence post to gab about the latest town gossip. It is it is like watching that there's no substance to that show anymore. Charlie discussed ideas. They clearly had Andrew on to just try to smear Candace and it is going to backfire because everything they do always does suburban style writes high canis. My brother and I watch and discuss your show every day. Would you please help me wish my brother a la happy 50th go max and thank you happy 50th a la hope you have an amazing birthday. And I hope you're listening to my podcast and are going to be able to hear me say that or at least have your sister or your brother clip this out so that you know that I hope it was a good one spend time with your family. Simon Webster writes Candace imagine you're in the X man universe and have professor X X's to let the telepathy. You can read mine within a 250 mile radius which five people in the world would you deliberately get close enough to read and why those five I would go right into turning point. Obviously I'm getting answers for trollic or assassination that would be the thing that I did immediately I'd probably do cash per tell on the day of the tweeting and what they were going to do I would probably do. Andrew I don't want to be in his mind it's just so wasteful I would do Erica Kirk for sure because it's a it's a puzzle. And I think that the world would like to know what's happening in there and maybe question get some answers to some of the things that she's done thereafter. I would definitely do someone that was on the ground that day like Mikey McCoy who had a lot of action and could definitely we therefore be able to access his memories of what really went down at Tim Pinogus and hospital and beyond in the lead up to that. And I just really don't want to be in Blake's head. I probably would access Mike Mitchell's mind as well because he has been a central character in all of this that we just don't get to see and meet and seems like he brought things together. Am I at five I feel like then I have to do one more and it would probably be Lance twigs. But I think at yeah everybody who watches the show knows that in I'm a huge X-Men fan and I'm mystique always. I'm always mystique. So don't play this I don't want to be professor I want to be mystique. Just mystique. And but it has to be specifically not the Jennifer Lawrence mystique. It's this one that's up on the screen, which is Rebecca remain Stamos. So thank you for playing the game. That's me right there with blue chick on the screen. We I think I think I got everybody here. I know I missed a pre pre-ro imagine being grown men sitting on your dead friend's podcast talking crap about a pregnant woman and thinking that you are doing the Lord's work. I it's just pathetic. It really is. It should just shut down the show. Him trying to basically appeal to authority. Well, people who had high IQs got on. You mean the neoconfrods who tell us that we should go to wore the run. Who said that you won? It's just it's exhausting to watch them do this day in and out. And they can't be successful at it. So what's the point of continuing it on? You know Charlie cared a lot about that show. It was like I said one of his lifelong goals. He loved Rush Limbaugh. He couldn't wait to one day be able to do the same three hours of radio every single day day and day out. And he did it. And he was successful because he was brilliant. And I am sorry to be the one to tell you guys, but you will not you can't fill Charlie shoes and what you have done has been an absolute embarrassment to everything that he has built. Just shut up turning point you say, you know, just start over and build something else. Be lean into the neocon thing. Call it something else. Like it does. This is just so it's such a farce at this point. You must be exhausted. You look tired. You all look tired. Anyway, that's all I have to say about that. If you guys want to support the show, you know you can head to the website. We have book club today. Just reminding you guys of that. So we will be jumping on a book club. It'll probably take a 15 minute break. And then we will be over on our website, canisones.com. And if you are on canisones.com, don't forget that you could pick up some merch. You can buy the book that we are reading. Make them a sandwich. You can buy a stop anti-canisism, a stand-is cup, which it complements well with the last sentence cup. We don't know what we know. Yep, that looks great. You might want to have them both. They are collectors items. Don't forget while you are there, maybe some of you guys are thinking about doing some crime. Gotta get your second favorite shirt. It's gotta be the second one. Just reminding you not to wear your first favorite shirt. And of course, saying that tongue in cheek. You should not be doing crime. But if you are, this is the shirt that you should have. Anyway, you guys, I will see you in 10 days. It's going to feel so long. Love you so much. Give me a hug. Give me a hug. It has to be a hug like this, though, because my belly, you know, it's like natural social distancing. I've got a fat belly. Okay. Love you forever. Bye. 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