Hegseth Dodges Impeachment as Trump Threatens Democratic Investigators

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Happy one week from the Blue Wave, Blue Nami, and we're already fighting with each other. Things are just the way that they were. Everything is back to where we once were. If you guys are just joining, welcome to the Raging Perspectives. I'm Aaron Parnas with Jessica Tarla. Make sure to subscribe on SubSackUp here, YouTube down there. Happy Wednesday. Let's fight with each other, not you and me. But the party. Let's do it. Okay. Pete Hagseth just got a lifeline from House Republicans. Am I stupid? I'm going to have to read the full prompt, but I actually thought a few more of them would vote to impeach and not do this work around to send it to the committees. That was the plan. At least, that's what everyone thought. I mean, I spoke to Adam Smith, a ranking member on the Armed Services Committee. A few days before the vote, and he said he thought it would pass to flying numbers. He thought there were plenty of Republicans who were ready to vote. Massey was prepared for Republicans to vote. At the end of the day, it ended up being an attendance issue, and Democrats kind of screwed the blue chair. Well, it wasn't the attendance issue. I mean, we'll get into it, but I think there's blame to go around, but also numbers are going to number, and it wouldn't have changed. Oh, I have some. I have some even more. I mean, I do think it would have changed the outcome. Those seven Republicans were not in D.C. I mean, let me read the whole prompt so people know what's going on here. Here I am in professional reading. Okay. Despite mounting questions about Pete Hexeth's conduct during the Iran War, the House voted 2-11 to 204 to sink an impeachment effort, referring the articles to committee, and shielding Hexeth from a potentially damaging vote. Massey said his Republican colleagues are in a quote-unquote suicide pact with the administration. Okay. Now you tell me about the numbers. It was not exciting of a prompt. Yeah. I mean, listen, so the numbers are what they are. It was 210 to 204. You had seven Republicans not voting. You had, what was it, 11 Democrats, 11 Democrats not voting. If all 11 Democrats voted, there would have been enough to move this forward. I think the argument that, well, if all Republicans voted this would have been killed, yes, that is true. If every Republican and every Democrat voted, this would have been killed. But based on what I understand, not all of those seven Republicans were in D.C. ready to vote. There were attendance issues with this Republican caucus. And so every Democrat showed up and voted. There would have been the votes. Now, let's go through why some of these Democrats didn't. I get it. Some of them have health issues, and that is one bucket. So shout out Pat Ryan, you had back surgery the day before and checked himself out to make sure that he was going to be on the floor to vote to impeach, uh, Pied Hex as I, I mean, I'm a Pat Ryan stan usually, um, but I, I thought that that was worth noting, uh, a hundred percent. So Pat Ryan, yes, shout out to Pat Ryan. But the other members, the other members, well, here, um, here's where I get a little annoyed. Nancy Pelosi was in California out of veterans day event, okay? Nancy Pelosi should have been in D.C. That's number one. Number two, the ones who were stuck in traffic or because they said that there was like an issue, car accident, whatnot. This vote was scheduled for 5 30 PM. It was scheduled for 5 30 PM at 7 a.m. Everyone knew what was happening at 5 30. You remember of Congress? You got to get there. Um, I don't care. Like, there were reports from Punchbowl that some members literally were stuck in that traffic. They got out and they walked together all right to vote. You go there and you vote. And by the way, I think there's also this, and I can't believe I'm like out here talking about, um, like all of this because there's a misconception that like Mike Johnson shot this vote quickly. He didn't. I mean, if you were watching it live, this vote was open for a good 30 minutes. It's a 15 minute vote. It was open for 30 minutes. So I, I just, I don't think anyone who didn't show up unless you had like a serious health issue that Congress from Korea does, you don't, you don't have an excuse in my opinion. Yeah. So, uh, the Democratic with Catherine Clark, uh, was had a meeting this morning where she said to the 11 members who missed the vote, uh, for Pete access potential impeachment that the committee, uh, sorry, that they had disappointed the American people. She acknowledged that full attendance wouldn't have changed the outcome. That's depending on the Republican attendance, which is the point that Erin's making, um, stress that members have a responsibility to show up to the people who elected them, reiterated leadership's expectation that Democrats be present for votes during the lame duck session. Um, she was apparently, uh, you know, uh, transmitting the sentiments of many rank and file Democrats who were frankly pissed off, um, that this was possible and they were at an event, uh, for Democratic women. It was, uh, a group called elect dem women, um, just so people know where they were, but you are right that some got out of their cars and walked because there was a block between the accident and a motorcade issue. And by the way, just, uh, one thing I'm just going to say is like, if every Democrat showed up and every Republican showed up and this didn't go forward, okay, fine. At least everyone showed up and you can't then go and say no one would be blaming Democrats today for anything. Well, they'd be blaming Republic or say Republicans are trying to protect Pete Hexas on their way out. Even folks that you would expect to see do this like a Don Bacon who has been consistently critical of Hexas, um, I'm curious what they'll do because now it will move to the individual committees. For instance, um, but Republicans are selling leadership, uh, positions until the end of the lame duck session. All of this is spilling over on to Hawkeen Jeffries, though, and that, I mean, my timeline is full of this. That, you know, the first thing that comes up since getting this massive majority is a failure on a vote. And he said that, you know, he hadn't whipped or they hadn't whipped this. It would have been Catherine Clark, who is the way, but that essentially, he, you know, he didn't know about the numbers. Where do you stand on this before I tell you where I stand on it? Where I stand on it. As a Hawkei-Jeeve referees problem. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's a, it's a Democratic caucus wide problem. It's a leadership problem. Of course it is. I think, um, everyone in leadership has to figure out how, why their members did not show up. I mean, that, that, that, that is the truth of it. Because to me, if it was as important of a vote, everyone would be there. And you would whip it. You would figure it out. So it's a caucus wide problem. If you were elected to the House of Representatives, you got to get and make sure you vote. Um, so it's a, it's a caucus wide issue. It's a, I don't, I don't pin it out one person. I don't pin it just on Jeffries. I mean, it's, it's on a lot of folks in the Democratic caucus. Yeah. Absolutely. But, you know, when you are the person who's in charge, yeah, people are going to look at you and say, you know, why wasn't it communicated that this is like, first day of school, super important shit. Right? Like, you got to be here for that vote and, you know, Catherine Clark, that would be on her too, as you're saying, you know, caucus wide problem. And, you know, I, I feel like this Mary go round that we're on about Hakim Jeffries is leadership position when there's nobody else running against him is getting a little tedious to save the least. And I'm curious. You know, he has a lot of progressive defenders, you know, AOCs out there making, you know, videos about like how actually someone becomes speaker and what the job entails and no one else is running for it, et cetera, but it feels like the progressive left is not going to stop questioning the leadership, I guess, or maybe they're thinking that it is just pushing to get better results. And the blue dogs and the more central stems and the new Democrat coalition, for instance, are super dug in about this, especially because he did oversee, you know, returning an enormous majority. Where do you stand on the back and forth over his leadership? Here's where I stand. I think that there are serious concerns from a lot of the Democratic base that leadership is going to have to address. That is number one. They shouldn't be talked down to, they shouldn't be rejected. I think that I find it very interesting that a lot of the more progressive members are making clear that it's not about one person being leader, it's about the agenda. And for what it's worth, you can ask every single member of the Democratic Caucus, I guarantee you maybe two, three or four would ever say they want to be speaker of the house. It is not, it is a thankless job, it is not a fun job, it is, it is a very tedious job. And I think AOC actually explained it really well on her Instagram live the other day of what a speaker of the house actually does and why she is essentially, at least currently supporting Jeffries because he's the only one on the ballot. It's not, this whole conversation is not Jeffries focused or Schumer focused. It's a conversation about the future of the Democratic agenda. And that's the conversation that I think a lot of people need to be having. And it's why I say they are concerns that whoever becomes leader in both chambers, whoever is leadership, will have to address. You can't just sweep this aside because there is a growing number of people in the Democratic base. I would argue a majority of the Democratic base want to see things like universal healthcare, universal childcare, things like that, which a lot of these member elects ran on. And so it'll just be up to leadership to address the concerns. And at the end of the day right now, Hakeem Jeffries is inevitable because he's the only one running. I mean, if someone else jumps in and runs, then it'll be a more interesting conversation. But at least right now. I think that it will be an interesting conversation. I think that everyone knows that. And I get the frustration and from the things that he said in interviews about what they're going to be bringing to the floor first, those are the things people wanted to hear, right? Like banning people in Congress from trading stocks, raising the minimum wage, you know, restoring the ACA subsidies, repealing the cuts to Medicaid. For instance, like the war powers resolution. I will say where you and I disagree, I think and where I will break from a lot of folks is the fact that I actually think number one on the agenda has to be accountability. It has to be. And I think that is, and I have called out Jeffries on this already in that the message, yes, we're going to lower your costs. But accountability and affordability go hand in hand. If you can hold the wealthy and the top 1% in these tech oligarchs accountable, you will make life more affordable. And so the message has to be accountability. I think a lot of Americans want accountability. I think saying things like, oh, we don't want revenge. I get the sentiment behind it. But a lot of Americans are angry. They have seen their friends and family taken off the streets by massed ICE agents. They are tired of where they've been and they want to see some type of accountability, especially given the fact that in a Congress right now, you have a Democratic House Democratic Senate, but you don't have needleproof majorities and you have a Republican president. So anything you pass, isn't going to really go that far. So that's just my take on it. I don't disagree with you. I just think of that more as Garcia's purview than what leader Jeffries is out there talking about. And I want to skip ahead to the discussion about what's going on with oversight because we're obviously preparing to take over the House. And Trump is now putting the oversight committee on notice. White House Council is warning Robert Garcia that some Democratic investigations could cross the line into criminal behavior, even suggesting lawmakers could face legal consequences for how they use subpoenas. This feels incredibly serious to me and I was reflecting on, you know, the oversight investigations that the Republicans undertook, like the auto pen, for instance, and wondering where they get off even pretending that they are the good guys, the above board, not interested in retribution or revenge team here, but what is the actual impact on Garcia's investigations because of this letter? The letter means nothing. Garcia hasn't even gotten the letter. They mailed it out from the White House and they don't think we just got it first. They gave it to Punchbowl before Garcia got it, okay. This letter means literally nothing and in fact, it's going to hurt the White House substantially because now, Jeffries and legal, not Jeffries, right, Garcia and legal counsel for oversight can go to a court and say, look, they never intended to follow subpoenas in the first place. This is what they're trying to do. And we'll almost expedite a lot of the adjudication the back and forth, the legal back and forth for when they try to defy subpoenas and stonewall these investigations. This is just a threat with no tea. But they want to go and arrest Robert Garcia for investigating Donald Trump. I say go do it, honestly, go do it and see the type of backlash you're going to get. The judge will throw it out pretty quickly, Garcia will become, you'll make a million Robert Garcia's across the world instantly and then you'll lose even more in 2028. So this is just a lot of bluster to me. You don't send the slider out two months before investigations if you have nothing to hide. Well, definitely, I mean, they've got closets, closets full of stuff. But I was surprised to see it so early, I guess, before there's even been a real wind up. It's because they're scared. That's why they went from like making fun of him about his petty comment over the weekend to this. Though, I mean, it is in fitting with Jim Jordan becoming the new leader of the Republican minority. He defeated longtime leadership contender Steve Scolias and a 106 to 73 vote. So for the show comes from him's the best sex happens when you're more in the moment than in your head. Hems can help take the second guessing off the table. It's not about managing a condition or treating a symptom. It's about having the sex life you actually want. This combines personalized treatment plans and 100% online process. No office visit, no pharmacy line, no awkward conversations. You just connect with a licensed provider who can determine if treatment is right for you. Not every guy needs the same thing. 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The guy has never gotten a piece of legislation passed, and he's been in Congress what like 20 years at this point. What do you think the future of the party looks like under a Jim Jordan's spelled GYM or JIM? It makes a lot of sense that Jim Jordan was elected leader of the party that refuses to release all the Epstein files. It's poetic in a way. Where do I see this going? Maybe Jim Jordan never becomes Speaker of the House. What I mean by that is, yes, could Republicans potentially take over the House of Representatives again one day? 100% they will, at some point in the future Democrats will not be the majority in the House in perpetuity. It'll flip back and forth. Fine. Excuse me. Okay. But Jim Jordan, I don't see lasting longer. [BLANK_AUDIO] and see him growing the majority that much. I think we're probably gonna have a huge hot pole battle in 2028 and I don't know that Jim Jordan is the one that can lead them, especially like strategic strategy-wise. I don't think he has that strategic bone in his body, given the fact that he spent time on judiciary, investing in a whole lot of nothing, hasn't passed a piece of legislation in 20 years. And so yeah, I struggle to see a path forward for Jordan. I also struggle to see Jordan really raising the money that Mike Johnson and others raised. I don't know that he'll be able to do that. - He's to put this politely, he's an elegant. And there is something to being able to raise money. And it usually comes from elegant people that can work all sorts of different kinds of rooms. Right, this was the thing about John Kornin versus Ken Paxton as well, like Kornin, an enormously prolific fundraiser. Mike Johnson did a really good job with this. Think whatever you want about him. And I have had some of those dirty thoughts myself, not in the sexual way, but you know what I'm saying. But Mike Johnson could work a room and had a sheen about him. Jim Jordan doesn't have that. So if you're thinking about the normy Republicans that you're trying to get back into the fold, especially ones that can give a lot of money, I don't think sending Jim Jordan without his suit coat on, right? And his sleeves up over his tie on is necessarily going to be the winning hand that you think it is. To me, it's just a signal of the all-out warfare that's going to go on during the last few years of the Trump administration. They know that governing has kind of flown out the door even though Trump is pretending to flirt with the idea of doing something like on immigration, for instance, with Stephen Miller waiting in the wings. - Yeah, that's right. - But agree with you there. I also, unless I'm wrong, but my impression is that he doesn't have great relationships with anyone but really like his core. - Yeah, that's kind of what I saw. - And the leader is supposed to be able to, you know, choose with everybody to understand what people's priorities are and also how they're thinking about these issues. Because you're going to see of the Republicans who are left and it's not as many of them as certainly the Republicans had hoped. Some of them might have interests, for instance, in doing deals that could deliver for their constituents so that maybe they could get elected again or it's just the right thing to do. But I'm going to go with the electoral impetus for doing this. And my impression is that Jim Jordan is not someone who's going to be good about that. Necessarily, he's going to be like Donald Trump's henchman that way. - Which is why I think he'll last the two years and then he'll go. Like I don't envision, given how large, I mean, listen, given how large the democratic majority is in the house, for Republicans to flip it in the house in 2028, they'd have to have a red wave of such epic proportion that we haven't even seen in our lifetime or at least in my lifetime. - You're many lifetime. - In my many lifetime. But still, I mean, they're not going to, the house is not going to, in my opinion, I'm not going to flip back to Republican, neither is the Senate in 2028. It could be closer to be constricted to the house, not necessarily the Senate, but it won't flip. And I don't see Jim Jordan lasting another election cycle after 2028. - Yeah, and the map is terrible for them in 2028. This was their good map. - Yes. - And then 2030 is a whole other conversation once the census kicks in. And then there's going to be a lot of problems for Democrats. But there are Republicans that are saying it's not even worthwhile to run for president in 2028 because they think it's going to be such a shellacking, a redux of what we just saw with the Blue Nami. All right, let's move over to the tech industry. They're preparing for legal battles with Democrats. Companies are getting ahead of the scrutiny by hiring Democrats who know their way around Capitol Hill. Among them, Palantir, which just brought on former Democratic Senator John Tester as an advisor. The company founded by billionaire Peter Teal has faced criticism from Democrats over its government contracts and technology used in immigration enforcement and surveillance. Meanwhile, the CEO Alex Karp has been making his own case to the left arguing that Palantir's products are essentially progressive and that he's always been a Democrat all along. Obviously, this is what they have to do. I think Kara Swisher made some very funny jokes about Mark Zuckerberg showing up with like blue hair and a nose ring trying to find his way with the Democratic caucus. But what do you make of all of this? - What do I make of all of this? What I make of all of this is the fact that they know judgment day's coming. It's like they know that they're about to be hauled to Capitol Hill all of these tech oligarchs. And they're just trying to hedge their bets. They're trying to hedge their bets. Alex Karp is trying to hedge his bet for 2028. He wants Palantir to continue making money. A lot of their government contracts are fueling a lot of their income. So yeah, I think it all makes sense. It's just a sign of the times of kind of where we're at. - I will say though, I actually do believe them that they were all or are all Democrats actually. Then it just makes the cravingness of it even worse that you were willing to sell your soul like this to have what was supposed to be two good years. Though I guess for these tech companies, they were awesome years because the average American was the one having a tough time. Not the tech CEOs. But who's a tech CEO that's having a very tough time? - Elon Musk. - Oh. - No, I was going Jensen Wong. - Oh, well yeah, him too. - I mean, really bad. I've been advertised as reporting that Trump was briefed aboard Air Force One before his trip to China in May about intelligence suggesting that in video as CEO, Jensen Wong was involved with a woman believed to be a Chinese spy. This directly contradicts Trump's claim this week that he didn't know about the allegations at the time. This is insane. - It's so crazy. - That they knew about it and didn't do anything. - It's so crazy. And the fact that he traveled to China on Air Force One. - And the Republicans are out there like hot. Yeah. - Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? And this is Joe Biden. - What are we doing? - Because Republicans are actually upset of the wall. The country would be on fire. - I know, I know. Crazy. - Well, I was even thinking about like Eric Swalwell's. Remember, he had a slap with a Chinese spy fangfang and they talk about it all the time. And they want a collective shrug about this. But there are individual Republicans who seem deeply concerned about it. Do you, where do you think this goes? - Where does this go? I don't know where this goes. Honestly, truth be told. And I will say that because right now, even Silicon Valley is really rallying around Jensen Wong right now. I'm curious to see whether Jensen Wong remains the head of Nvidia moving forward. And what the results are of the internal investigation that they launched. There's a lot here that needs to be unpacked. It seems like Trump's standing with him. So, I guess that's where we are right now. I don't know where the future goes to. - Yeah, I mean, I got that people really like him and that he seems like a good guy or whatever. But Scott has a whole thing about, you know, how he has to resign and how-- - Of course, I mean, come on. - I mean, obviously, but they never seem to do it. And I get too caught up in the like soap opera aspects of it, but I feel so terrible for his wife, who was like his lab partner who had 43 years, two kids was with him from like being a poor student up until this, but no prenup. So, what does she stand to get? Like 81 billion dollars? - It might be the most expensive divorce in American history outside of the Bezos divorce. - Are they definitely getting-- - Where are the Gates and Dore, Gates divorce? If they divorce, I don't know that they will. - Yeah, I don't know either. If she wants to talk to us, we're available on the raging perspective. - Come on over. - I want to talk, looping back to what Democrats can do or what they're already thinking about. They're putting forward some bigger ideas to counter Republican policies that they say are hurting Americans pocketbooks. Love this from Senator Andy Kim, who's pitching universal healthcare as a defining issue for the party, starting with the Medicids Act, which would automatically enroll every child in Medicaid and extend coverage to the age of 26. He's also proposing expanding Medicare to cover long-term care for older adults and people with disabilities. I love this kind of bold legislation. I say make them vote against this, make Donald Trump veto it. Do you think this is the kind of thinking that carries us through? - I mean, yes. I think it will definitely help. But I think ultimately it has to be paired with accountability. You have to do this and you have to do that. You gotta walk into that. - Well, we are doing that. - You gotta walk into them. - Do you feel like that's not happening though? 'Cause I mean, Garcia seems very hot in all of this. - It is happening. 100%. I'm just saying it's got to-- - You're just like, it has every 10 minutes. We just have to do the reminder. - It's what Democrats want. - Yeah, but they want healthcare too for kids. Of course, we could do both. Walking to you guys. - We could do both. Joe Biden's back. He's releasing his new memoir, Promise Me America. And he is currently scaling back his book tour as he continues his cancer treatment. The book includes the farewell letter Donald Trump left for Biden on an auguration day. Which did not seem like he thought that he didn't lose the election fair and square. It was so nice. He has this gracious tone reflecting on the presidency and telling Biden he believed he would be true to himself and the American people. He even writes that Biden's law for the country would set him apart from presidents who simply got swept along by history. Let's watch a clip of Jell and Joe with People Magazine. - And I don't need to do for everybody. - Joe's cancer diagnosis was such a complete surprise and we had other plans for post-White House traveling and maybe going to Italy. But once you got the diagnosis, our whole life changed entirely. And I can remember sitting actually at a nail salon going through a magazine and thinking, oh, I'd love to travel to this place and to that place and it all of a sudden struck me like, wait a minute, this is in our life now. - That's so sad. It really is. It's so sad and I just wish the Biden's the best. - I wish so in the best, too. And I'm scared for the onslaught that is about to happen. And I know that people are already saying and we knew the release date. We didn't know that he was definitely gonna be scaling back his book tour, but I'm not surprised by that. Even if he wasn't sick, I think that he would be scaling back. But to see people even commenting already like, we just had this amazing result and then it's pulling us back into a doom cycle that was not particularly good for Democrats. - I mean, listen, he was always gonna publish his book. It was always gonna come out this November. Like that was always the plan, so yeah. - Yeah, well, I'll be talking about it today on the five. Thoughts and prayers, please. - Thoughts and prayers, let's answer some questions. Dutchie asks, do you think Donald Trump wants to be president anymore? - Yeah, definitely. - I think so. - Yeah, I mean, I don't think he doesn't want to be. I think he wants to be president, but like at Mar-a-Lago. - Fair, I think he wants to be-- - But I think he wants to be president forever. - Decorator. Liz asks, what happens if Supreme Court justice is retired before the end of the session? Can Trump get a couple in? - I can take that one. - Yeah. - If Supreme Court justice is retired, yes, they could force someone else in. There is no indication that any Supreme Court justice is gonna retire though, right now. - And Alito said that, that was the one that everyone was watching. Clarence Thomas is gonna die in office. - Yeah, he's not gonna leave. - For sure. - And he is on the precipice of becoming the longest-serving justice. - Yes, he is. The only one thing that I did see is this idea that Trump could nominate someone, and they could confirm someone in waiting. It's an interesting legal concept I've never heard, but well, that's here we go. - Oh yeah, Sarah Isger was writing about it, right? - Yeah. - Yeah, that would be super annoying. But I also, and maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but I feel like the outgoing senators, like the Tom Tills' and Susan Collins' of the world, Bill Cassidy, wouldn't vote for a conservative justice after the people have spoken at this level. - Yeah, I agree. I agree, 100%. - Okay, so we're safe, Liz, for now. - What's the likelihood of Puerto Rico and DC's statehood 0% right now? It's just not gonna happen right now. I mean, moving forward, it's gonna be up to the people of Puerto Rico and DC, in my opinion. - Okay, I have zero savings really low to me, but which way in, which way in? Oh, I see. Okay, who said we didn't want revenge? - I don't know. - I think most Democrats said that like, revenge is in what we want, we just want accountability. That was a quote that was floating around. - Accountability versus revenge, or like the agenda versus accountability or revenge, 'cause I feel like they're distinct. - Yeah, no, it's just the use of the term revenge versus accountability. - Okay, well, we're parsing words. I think that people want stuff to happen in the legal sphere. However, you want to brand it, and it is not in our nature to just go after people for shits and giggles, you know, real - That's what Trump does. - Cases and invests, that's what Trump does. - Thank you guys for watching. Make sure to subscribe up here and down there. See you guys next week. - See ya. (upbeat music) - Running a business shouldn't feel like surviving a software group project, one app for accounting, another for inventory, another for sales, and somehow, none of them talk to each other. That's where Odu comes in, and all-in-one business management software that brings every part of your business together. From sales and accounting to inventory and marketing, all-in-one powerful platform, no messy integrations, no bouncing between tabs, and best of all, no spreadsheets. Try for free today at odu.com/vox. That's odo.com/vox.