He Called 911 Crying After Every Kill.. The 'Weepy Voiced Killer'

There was a killer that tormented the twin cities for nearly two years, a killer that would strike over and over and over again, and said that he could not stop. "Don't talk just listen. I saw what I did to content. I couldn't help it. Don't know why I had this terrible, painful, upset about it. I can't get through, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. It's a big scream." But at the same time was claiming that he regretted every single moment of it. A killer compelled to commit these unthinkable crimes and then felt compelled to call the police, cry, and confess, and beg them to catch him after every single murder. "You find me, I just get somebody with an ace, but I can't get stuff myself, I can't come in somebody." These are the wicked crimes of the weepy, voiced killer. My name is Brianna, and I'm hot on the case. Thank you so much for joining me for this week's investigation. If you've been here before, welcome back. If this is your first time ever joining me for an investigation. Hi, my name is Brianna, and I post long form true crime content on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple podcasts every single Friday. Please consider subscribing and liking the video on YouTube and then hopping over to wherever you get your podcasts, following the show and leaving us a review and rating the show. I would like to quickly start off this week's episode, just letting all of you know that in my research for this week's episode, I found a lot of conflicting sources and conflicting information. I did my best to compile what I believed to be the most accurate information for this investigation, but if you think that I left anything out or maybe got something wrong, please just let me and your fellow detectives know down in the comments. I would also like to apologize once again for the delay on last week's episode. I had some pretty intense things going on in my personal life last week, but just one let you guys all know that I'm okay and everyone's okay and thank you guys so much for all of this week. Words in the comments section, a lot of you guys also DMed me across all my socials and I appreciate that so much. It was really uplifting in a pretty hard time, and that just means the world to me that so many people were worried about me, and yeah, thank you guys so much. Sorry for the long winded intro this week. I had a lot I needed to go over, but we're gonna get right into this investigation now. Three a.m. on New Year's Day in 1981, a hysterical anonymous phone call came in to 911 at dispatch, reporting a badly beaten woman lying bloody in the snow near railroad tracks. Please, this is an emergency police center squad just from the road. Mom, big man, the bike's ain't got the machine shop. Jesus, the ambulance, too, there's a girl who's so. Can you tell me what happened to him? The truth is that she's laid on the ground in the back by the road tracks, by the vehicle. What's the address? I don't know. Who are you? When first responders arrived on the scene, they found a 20-year-old college student, Karen Podak lying partially unclove in the snow, near railroad tracks off Pierce Butler Road in St. Paul, Minnesota, right near the factory, Maul Berg manufacturing company. Karen had been badly beaten with a tire iron. She has repeatedly bludgeoned over the head to the point where her skull was broken and her brain was partially exposed. The snow that she was found lying on was completely soaked red with the blood that was pouring out from her head. But miraculously, she was still alive. But barely, they loaded Karen who was clinging to life into an ambulance and rushed her to the hospital. Her discarded clothes were found at the scene. The red blouse that she had been wearing that day had its buttons ripped off from her attacker, viciously ripping open her blouse to expose her breasts. Each button from her blouse was found 50 feet away from her body in every different direction. Karen wasn't even from town. She was in St. Paul that evening visiting her sisters so they could ring in the New Year's together. They were out drinking at a New Year's party, but sometime around midnight, Karen decided that she wanted to leave the party early. So she left the bar alone, intoxicated, still with a drink in her hand. Her sisters assumed that Karen would just grab a taxi and they would meet up with her later, but that is not what happened. And I want to just quickly remind every single one of you listening, I know that I do have a partially younger audience, that if you go out together as a group, make sure you always leave as a group. I'm in no way believing Karen or her sisters for what happened to her, but I just wanted to quickly remind everyone that you should never ever ever let your friends go anywhere alone, especially if you've been drinking or using substances of any kind. And this goes for all genders, not just girls, how many times do we hear about these young men that go about drinking? They wander off alone and then they're found in bodies of water. Karen was rushed into an emergency surgery that saved her life. Police were hopeful that Karen's attack would be quickly solved and her attacker would be brought into custody. But due to the severe brain damage, Karen couldn't remember anything about what happened. She couldn't remember being attacked at all, thank God, but she also couldn't remember anything about her attacker or what he looked like. There were no clues at the scene and no leads for the police to go on. All they had was that one anonymous phone call and that weepy hysterical voice. The police sent the recording to the University of Michigan, hoping that some kind of voice recognition analysis would provide a match to the voice, but several months would go by. And Karen Podak's assault would go cold. And then five months later, on June 3, 1981, another phone call came in. It was the same high pitched weepy voice and this time he was confessing to a murder. A 911 operator that was working that day supposedly recognized the voice from this call to the call in the Karen Podak assault from months earlier, but originally police did not make the same connection. And they were hoping that this call was just some weird a prank done in extremely bad at taste, but only 30 minutes later, the hope that this confession was just some sick prank was gone. Just a half hour after that call was made, a group of teenagers were hanging out in a field on the edge of St. Paul, just being kids, being innocent, they were just throwing a football around when one of them thought what looked like like a dummy or a mannequin was hidden in the bush. But sadly, this was not a mannequin. This was the body of a young woman. She was lying face down in the dirt and she was stabbed dozens and dozens of times in her chest stomach and in her inner thighs and her private areas. A key found in the victim's pocket led them to a locker at the local Greyhound bus station and inside of this locker they found belongings that helped them identify the victim as 18 year old Kimberly Compton. She was only a teenager. Kimberly Compton was originally from Peppin, Wisconsin. She had recently graduated high school and she just wanted a fresh start. So on June 3rd, 1981, she left her family and her hometown and she got on a bus to the Twin Cities with big dreams of starting a new life for herself, but tragically that was the day that her life ended. Her poor family got a call that their daughter was dead and I imagine, because I have a mom, you know, I have a dad and after college I picked up and I moved to a different city and there's a lot of anxiety, I imagine, for Kimberly's parents that day already. Because her little girl is leaving home and she's moving to a new city where she doesn't know anyone, so to find out that that same day she was viciously killed, my heart absolutely breaks for them, just wondering, you know, like all the what ifs. After getting off the bus at the local Greyhound bus station, Kimberly walked across the street to a diner and inside the diner it wasn't very busy that day. there were just a few customers that were scattered across different booths. Kimberly sat in her own booth and that's when a stranger got up from his booth and he came over to introduce himself. He was older than her like double her age but he looked really friendly and Kimberly was always a super trusting kind of person. Kimberly told the stranger that she had just gotten into town and the stranger offered to show her around and beat her tour guide. Witnesses watched the two leave the diner together and that was the very last time that Kimberly was ever seen alive. She was killed only 15 minutes later and autopsy confirmed just how brutal of an attack this was. Kimberly had been stabbed 61 times. She was also strangled with what the medical examiner believed was a shoelace. The murder weapon used to stab her was concluded to be an ice pick. Investigators were absolutely baffled with this kind of overkill that typically means hatred. There's anger it's personal but that didn't line up considering that Kimberly just got into town the day that she was killed. Two days later there was another phone call to police. Detective said that this was one of the strangest experiences that they ever had in their entire careers on the force. How this killer who committed acts of such brutality could sound almost childlike crying and seemingly remorseful just moments later on a phone call. In this call the killer confessed to being the one that murdered Kimberly but he did not give up his name. Instead he said that he couldn't help himself and he was so upset about killing Kimberly than he was just getting drunk all the time. He felt like he was stuck in a bad dream and he didn't want to go to jail and he said that he would try to stop killing people. This time the call was long enough that they were able to trace the location of where it was coming from. The call was made from a phone booth that was outside the bus station that Kimberly spent some of her last moments at. So police rushed over to the phone booth but by the time they got there the killer was already gone. They attempted to gather evidence, dusk for fingerprints but due to the sheer amount of people that used this phone booth on any given day this was just another dead end. Once again the police's only lead were these anonymous phone calls and the killer's weepy voice. They also were able to confirm that the caller that called after the Karen Podak attack was the same caller that confessed to killing Kimberly Compton so officially these two attacks were connected and bits of each of these calls were released to the local news station in hopes that someone would recognize this person's voice and come forward. A special direct line has been set up now and the police are asking anyone with any information on this case to call. We're hoping that somebody will recognize the voice. You know whether it be a friend or a relative or a neighbor or someone you work with or drink with. Police got over 100 tips within just a few days but they were still nowhere closer to finding their killer. The killer was nicknamed in the media the weepy voice killer. Scrambling to find any sort of connection or pattern the police released that both victims Karen and Kimberly were wearing red at the time they were attacked by the weepy voice killer so police issued a warning to the public warning them against wearing the color red and then two months after Kimberly Compton was killed right when investigators thought that their case was once again going cold they got an emergency call from a hostage situation. 26 year old Alan Lopez was holding his parents and his sister hostage in his family home at gunpoint. So officers snipers, SWAT team surrounded the home as hostage negotiators rang the family's landline and spoke with Alan and it was on that call that Alan confessed to being the weepy voice killer and confessed to killing Kimberly Compton. And by the time that SWAT finally got into the family home it was too late Alan Lopez had already killed his entire family. 26 year old Alan Lopez surrendered and was brought into police custody. He had a known history of violence and struggles with mental illness. They knew that he had just killed three people his entire family but to link him directly to the weepy voice killer attacks they tried to match his voice to the voice in these 911 calls that the weepy voice killer would make but they believed that it was not a match in fact they said that there were no similarities between their voices. And it was later confirmed that he was in jail on New Year's Day at the time that Karen Podak was attacked. And since that attack was already confirmed to be by the same person that killed Kimberly Compton they ruled him out as a suspect in the weepy voice killer murders but before they were able to find out why Alan Lopez confessed to something that he did not do he took his own life in prison. And if all that wasn't confirmation enough that the weepy voice killer was still out there on August 7th 1982 they found another body this time it was on the other side of the Mississippi River in Minneapolis. Early that morning a paperboy was doing his normal paper route he was just riding his bike alongside the Mississippi River when near the river bank in some bushes he saw what he thought was like a crash test dummy but the closer he got he realized that this was the body of a woman. Once again this attack was vicious and brutal the victim was beaten and bludgeoned in the head and was also stabbed in the chest and stomach with what looked like to be a screwdriver or an ice pick. They still hadn't gotten as far into their investigation to where they were able to identify the victim when the weepy voice killer called them once again. Eventually the police were able to identify the victim as 40-year-old nurse Barbara Simmons. She was last seen alive the night before her body was found on August 6th. She was out at her local watering hole this bar called the hexagon. While Barbara was out just trying to have a fun night of drinking and dancing she was approached by a man a stranger that asked her for a cigarette. The two seemingly hit it off and they spent the rest of the night talking and drinking and dancing together. And before Barbara left the bar that night before she was never seen alive ever again she said to one of the bartenders about this stranger that she was with the entire night. He's cute isn't he? I hope he's nice because he's giving me a ride home. She left the hexagon bar with that stranger and was never seen alive ever again and her body was found the next morning. Their killer was getting bolder hunting for his next victims in public with dozens of eyewitnesses. Investigators immediately went to the hexagon bar hoping to speak with bar staff hoping that any of them would remember anything about the stranger that Barbara was seen leaving the bar with and for the first time in their investigation police got their first description of the weepy voiced killer. The hexagon bar staff said that this stranger was male. He was middle aged about maybe like 40 years old. He was tall about six feet. He was bulky and muscular. They said maybe between like 185 and 300 pounds he had dark hair and he had a mustache. With this description please begin coming through all their old case files and all their old mugshots and they narrowed it down to eight mugshots of criminals violent known criminals in the area that matched this description. They then brought those eight mugshot photos back down to the hexagon bar and showed them to all the bar staff that saw the stranger that was last seen with Barbara Simmons and they each individually pointed out the exact same man and that was Paul Michael Stefani the weepy voiced killer. Not too much is known about Paul Stefani's early life. We do know that he was born on September 8th 1944 in Austin, Minnesota. He was also one of 10 kids and he was raised in this very large, very religious family and his parents raised each of their 10 kids to be very devout Catholics. His parents were divorced and remarried by the time he was three years old and his stepfather was described as honestly like a pretty shitty person. Paul's stepfather was verbally and physically abusive to each of his 10 stepkids. I even saw it reported that he would just push them down flights of stairs anytime that he was in a pretty bad mood. After high school Paul left his hometown and he moved to the Twin Cities, there he got married in 1970. He also had a daughter with his new bride. And for a little bit it seemed like Paul would live any other normal average life. But after five years of marriage, Paul reportedly abandoned his family, his daughter, and he divorced his wife. He then dated a woman for four years. Paul claimed to really, really love he thought that she was the one and he wanted to marry her. But after four years updating, she left him. She went back to her home country of Syria for an arranged marriage that her parents set up that she had no sayover. And Paul was so angry and betrayed that she left him to go marry some stranger. And this was like a rage and a betrayal that he seemingly never got over. Throughout Paul's entire life, he worked many jobs, but he really had a hard time actually keeping a job. As a child, Paul was diagnosed with epilepsy and he blamed that condition on why his employers were always firing him. He honestly blamed his epilepsy on like all of his failures in life. And it is believed that it was a mixture of Paul really having no purpose in life. His girlfriend leaving him to go get married in a different country and losing all of these jobs that led Paul to build up this really deep rage inside of him. And just before the attacks started, Paul was let go from his job at the Mahlberg manufacturing company, the same factory that Karen Podak was discovered at and was beaten within a inch of her life at. But I think it's so much deeper than all of this. I think Paul Safani had a true, true darkness inside of him. He describes that these deep, violent urges, this voice inside of his head compelling him to kill. It was something that no matter how much he claims to want to, he could not stop. There was something that compelled Paul to kill women in extremely violent, brutal, savage ways. But then according to Paul afterwards, he would be flooded with this overwhelming guilt and remorse and he would be compelled to call the police and confess his crimes. How Paul describes this contrast in his morality is very similar in my opinion to like the angel and the devil on your shoulder telling you different things. Many speculate that after growing up in the Catholic faith, that Paul thought that calling 911 to confess his crimes would be like going to church to confess his sins. And God would forgive his sins and he would still be able to go to heaven. Paul had a previous assault charge before he started his, oh my god, his like weepy voice killer killing spray and these attacks on these young women. Unfortunately, information on this assault is not publicly available as far as I know. If you know any more details, please let me know in the comments because I was walking and I could not really find anything that seemed to be like 100% confirmed. So I don't have any details on this previous assault that Paul was arrested for, but it was that arrest that police had that mugshot that finally put him on police radar. And once Paul Michael Stefani was finally on the police's radar, he quickly became their prime suspect. But instead of bringing him in for questioning, police set up surveillance outside their new prime suspects apartment. On August 21st, 1982, Paul left his apartment and got his car and drove into the night unknowingly being followed into the city by multiple officers. Unfortunately, once Paul got into the heart of the city, police lost him that night. Paul ended up picking up a 19 year old sex worker named Denise Williams. They agreed on a price for her services of $100. She got into his car and they drove away together. Afterwards, Paul promised that he would drop Denise back off where he picked her up in the city. But she quickly started to get worried when she noticed that they were going the wrong way. Paul was turning on to darker and darker streets, more isolated streets where no one else was around. I feel so deeply terrible for Denise Williams at this point in her life should already been through so much. She started working as a sex worker when she was only 13 years old, which is so young it literally makes me sick to think of the ages of these men. Oh my god. But because of this, Denise knew the city streets like the back of her hand. She was very street savvy and she was a fighter. She immediately began to panic as Paul turned down and even darker, more isolated road farther out of the city. And she knew that no matter what happened next, she was not going down without a fight. And that's when Denise looked down on the car floor of the passenger seat and saw a glass bottle right at her feet. Without saying anything, Paul pulled over and he parked his car. He then took out a screw driver and started to plunge it into Denise's stomach. Her blood began to just spray all over his car seats. But still Denise reached down at her feet, wrapped her fists around that glass bottle and smashed it into Paul's face and head over and over. She got him pretty bad too. His blood began spraying out of his head and even sprayed into Denise's mouth as she just kept beating him with this jagged glass bottle. And while he was distracted from the pain in his own face, she tried to run away. She got the car door open and tried to run away, but instead she just stumbled out of the car and into the dirt. She desperately began trying to get to her feet, so she could run away. But Paul was bigger than her and he overpowered her. He got her on the ground on her back and then he got on top of her and he just kept stabbing her with the screw driver over and over again. Paul believed that he brought Denise into an area where no one else would be. He thought that this was a neighborhood that was currently under construction and didn't have any residents actually living in it, but he was very, very wrong. There were people living on that very street and one of these men just so happened to have his window open that night and heard the horrifying screams of a young girl coming from outside. This good Samaritan ran out of his home and started running just into the darkness because there were no street lights actually on this street. He's just running towards these terrible, gargling screams. And that's when he came across a large man on top of a young woman repeatedly stabbing her. This good Samaritan yelled at Paul to stop, but Paul just turned to him and was swinging his bloody screw driver at him and said that he was going to kill him too. So this man ran back to his house to call the police and Paul ran back into his car and sped out of the neighborhood, just leaving Denise on the ground, bleeding out from her stomach, just leaving her to die. After being stabbed, 15 times in her stomach, Denise miraculously survived. And later that night, Paul would make his final call to 911, but not to confess to his latest attack, to request an ambulance for himself. Paul was brought to the hospital to treat his wounds and after Denise was able to pick out his photo from dozens of other mugshots, he was brought down to the police station and being interrogated as the prime suspect in the weepy, voiced killer case. Paul insisted that he got his injuries in a robbery, like some guy randomly came up to him, robbed him and just like punched him in the face a bunch of times. Detectives obviously knew that this was not true, but they still treated him like a victim at first, just again, his trust. And they noticed that Paul was talking to them in a very forced, really deep voice. Obviously trying to make his voice sound as different as possible from like the high pitched weepy child like voice he used whenever he called the police after committing these unthinkable evil acts. And then right when Paul started to believe that he was in the clear detectives brought out a case file and they placed several crime scene photos in front of Paul, crime scene photos of his own attacks and murders. And as soon as Paul laid his eyes on these photos, these very graphic photos, he got visibly upset and he stood up from the table and he said loudly to the police, you're not going to pin that on me. But the longer that Paul looked at these photos, The more his voice started to switch from this like forced deep voice to his high pitched weepy juvenile voice. The voice that the officers interrogating him knew all too well because they listened to that voice on recordings. At this point, probably like a hundred times. The detectives that were interrogating Paul said that this switch was like seeing someone's personality switch right in front of your eyes. Paul was officially arrested for the murder of Barbara Simmons and the attack and attempted murder of Denise Williams without a confession and because of like the jurisdiction issues. The DA was unsure if they could get a conviction in the murder of Kimberly Compton and the attempted murder of Karen Podak. So the only crimes that he would go to trial for was the murder of Barbara Simmons and the attack on Denise. He would not go to trial for the murder of Kimberly and the attack on Karen. On February 28th 1984, his trial began and Paul put in a plea of not guilty. Their biggest piece of evidence against him were these phone calls that Paul made confessing all of his crimes. They put Paul's ex-wife, his neighbor that was also, I believe, roomy at some point and also Paul's own sister on the stand and had them listen to these 911 call recordings to see if they could recognize the voice on these calls. They each individually matched the voice and these calls it to Paul. When his sister heard the voice of her brother, this boy that she grew up with confessing to murder, she broke down in tears on the stand. She said immediately when she heard the voice start speaking, she knew that it was her brother. Paul was sentenced to 18 years in prison for the attack on Denise and in additional 40 years from murdering 40-year-old Barbara Simmons. Sadly, like I said, the attack on Karen and the murder of Kimberly Compton would never go to trial. So although there was some sort of peace knowing that their attacker would be behind bars, there wasn't justice and there wasn't closure for them and for their families. Especially because even after serving his sentence at a level of five maximum security prison, Paul would just refuse to accept responsibility, which in my opinion is just like, confessing is the least you could do after all of the evil and harm that you have done. But then in 1997, after serving 10 years of his 58-year sentence, Paul Stefani, who was sitting in a jail cell in Oak Heights prison, was diagnosed with terminal skin cancer and learned that he only had one year left to live. He said, "I'd rather go to the grave knowing this is all taking care of and off my chest. To this day, I still can't leave it. I wake up in the morning thinking and hoping I'm dreaming all of this and then I have to say to myself, no, Paul, you're still in jail. I don't know what to say except I wish I could turn back the clock." The only thing that Paul requested for his confession was a photo of his mother's headstone. Paul's 1997 confession with police was videotape to so I will be inserting pieces of the video throughout this section of the episode. Just a fair warning that the audio on that video is pretty terrible. I will try to have my editor, aka my fiance Jacob, enhance the audio in that video. But if he can't make it sound any better, then I will have him put captions on the screen for anyone that is watching the video version of this podcast. Along with confessing to the crimes he was convicted of, he also finally confessed to his crimes against Karen Podak and Kimberly Compton. He claimed that after he attacked Karen, he chose the call 911 after realizing how much pain she was in, how much pain that he caused her, and he said that he wanted to help her. I didn't think I'd put the photo on. I remember to tip out maybe on the forehead, on the cheek, and jaw, the mouth, on the top of the head. I think it was only about 10 times. I know you should be, you must really be hurting in that field bar like that. I always even hurt. When I'm back at the time, there are others going like this. I mean, that's what I'm going to really want to go to the phone. I mean, I always want to help her. He claims that he said to himself, "What are you doing, Paul? Why are you doing this? Why do you do that to that girl? You could have made another friend." "That's my monster. Karen, what are you doing? You have chairs to make another friend that you don't have a soul. You like to make friends." During the entire confession, that was videotaped in 1997. Paul is a very nonchalant. It's not his same juvenile remorseful crying Paul that we're so used to that we've heard so much already. He's very, very chill about the entire thing, in my opinion. "And that's just telling me where she was from in the scouts and all of the messes I'll say. Why don't you, I'm not even thinking about her right now. I'm trying to show you downtown." I said, "Yeah, I want to trade. I'm not Israeli. I'm nice to be over here. I mean, you see the night if you're going to eat. I think I meant to somebody you can throw it. I mean, that's something I tell your parents a lot. That's a lot better than the car I shared. One night that you had to be in the tension to hurt them. They lay down in the grass, and I never opened up a bra and they'll just peel it. So, and it starts to stand there. Shilling my own soul. See, the thing you were supposed to do, that was part of the way. Driving the car was part of eating food, it's part of life. To me, to see my children was part of life. Until I did it, then I drove away. Then I looked like the one on first down the road. What are you doing?" And then I just couldn't turn myself in. That's why I can't get on the boat. Will you catch me and stop me and catch me or something like that? This is also when Paul confessed to a murder that the police had no idea about. He claimed that he couldn't remember really anything about this victim. He couldn't remember who she was, her name, where she lived. Only that he murdered her. He killed her in her own home. He drowned her in her own bathtub. "Hey, did you both get into the tub?" "Yes." "And you, your eyes have bummed that?" "Yes." He says, "I mean, why? I remember the one I pressed your head under water, I could see her face." "Did you push her in by her? Push her head down or do you push her chest area under the water or her shoulder down?" "You held her shoulders down. Both hands up." Investigators began coming through all their old case files, and that's when they discovered Paul's third murder victim. 33-year-old Kathleen Greening, who died on July 21st, 1982, just two weeks before Barbara Simmons was murdered. Her body was discovered by her friend Carol. That day, the two women actually had plans to go on a trip together, so Carol arrived at Kathleen's house and she tried knocking on the door, but Kathleen did not answer, so Carol just let herself in, and that's when she found her friend lying lifeless in her bath. Originally, investigators suspected that Kathleen's husband murdered her, but there was never enough evidence, and her death was actually ruled undetermined, not a murder, not an accident undetermined. Her death was extremely different from the other murders in the Weepy Voice Killer case. Not only in this case did he murder this victim in her own home, but he also did not make a 911 call afterwards. When asked about the differences, Paul really didn't have an answer, but he was able to give police details about Kathleen's murder and her home that were not released in the public, so these would only be details that the killer would know. On June 12th, 1998, Paul Michael Stefani died in the Affirmary at Oak's Highs Prison at the age of 53 years old. There's a lot of different ways that people look at this case, and more specifically look at Paul Michael Stefani, did Paul truly feel remorse and regret after attacking and killing these innocent women? Did he truly mean it when he said he wanted to stop killing and he wanted the police to catch him? Or did Paul call the police after attacking and killing these innocent young women because he wanted to claim his crimes in some sort of sick cat and mouse game with police? In my opinion, I believe that Paul really contradicts himself. In these 911 calls, he begs the police to catch him because he wants to stop killing, but he never once turned himself in. And in fact, when he was brought into custody and he was interrogated in connection to these crimes, he tried to get himself out of it and he said it wasn't him. When he went to trial, he pled not guilty and then he didn't confess for 15 years until he knew that he was dying. And in my opinion, those are not the acts of a remorseful man. I'm not quite sure why Paul felt compelled to call the police after he committed these unthinkable crimes, but I don't think it's because he wanted to get caught. I think it's because he wanted control. But again, that's just my opinion. I'm really interested to hear all your thoughts in the comments. Please let me know all your thoughts, theories and opinions on this case in the comment section below YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts. I read every single comment that you guys leave me. So let me know your thoughts in this one because I'm so, so. interested. I watched like every documentary, every podcast I could find on this case. And every single person seemed to have a different view on this case. I had a saw a lot of people that said that they believed that Paul truly did feel bad and he wanted to stop. And then I saw people that agree with me that if he wanted to stop, then he wanted the police to catch him and he was begging the police to catch him because he wanted to stop killing that when he was actually brought into custody. Then he would have been like, yes, it's me. Oh my gosh, thank God. I feel so terrible. I'm so upset. I don't want to do this. Thank you for catching me with that. That's not what he did. That's not what he did at all. So let me know all your opinions. Super super interested to hear all of your takes on this case. While you're in the comments, please always remember to be respectful. Please remember the victims in this case. And I'm going to say their names one more time. 20-year-old called student Karen Potak, who suffered a great deal, but she luckily did survive as well as 19-year-old Denise Williams, who fought for her life. And then there were those that weren't as lucky. 18-year-old Kimberly Compton, 40-year-old Barbara Simmons, and 33-year-old Kathleen Greening. Please remember them and their names and their stories. Whenever you think of this case instead of this disgusting evil evil man, Paul Michael Stefani. That's all I have for this week's investigation. Thank you so much for making it to the very very end. And I will see all of you next Friday when we are hot on the case once again.