Hawaii w/ Duncan Trussell | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir
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Ari Shafir promotes his new stand-up storytelling show, *The End*, a direct-to-consumer project offering premium, high-level comedy featuring top comedians like Duncan Trussell, Shane Gillis, and Tom Segura. The show is priced affordably—$5.99 per episode—with a special offer of buy-five-get-two-free, and all performers share in the profits. This model contrasts with traditional networks, allowing creative control and authenticity. Shafir also shares a deeply personal story about attending a spiritual retreat in Hawaii after his mother’s death. There, he experiences profound grief and transformative encounters with figures like Ram Dass and Neem Karoli Baba, leading to insights about identity, spirituality, and the power of psychedelics. The retreat, initially a place of dread, becomes a space of emotional and spiritual awakening, where participants—many of them long-time hippies—experience deep connection, unconditional love, and personal transformation. Through stories of psychedelic experiences, such as the time Ram Dass gave LSD to a follower who later described a violent reaction followed by peace, the narrative highlights the profound and unpredictable impact of psychedelics on identity and consciousness. The episode blends personal reflection with cultural history, drawing on 1960s counterculture, Harvard-era psychedelic research, and the legacy of figures like Timothy Leary and Ram Dass. Shafir concludes by emphasizing how spiritual retreats, despite their unorthodox nature, offer real, life-changing experiences that challenge conventional views of self, reality, and mortality.
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um that's it let's get back to the let's get back to the episode hey guys it's ari shafir
before i start today's episode with duncan trussell i want to tell you about my new
storytelling stand-up show called the end it is the end of what you might know as ari's renamed
storytelling show before that it was called this is not happening before that it was called ari
storytelling show i brought it back and it's available right now at ari shafir.com you can
get a single one hour long episode for five dollars 99 cents or if you buy five you can get
two for free um this is when i told duncan what i was trying to do he said oh nice the
new show is coming up it's going to be a new show it's going to be a new show it's going to be a new show
he called it the new model the new model is this if you don't know it is direct to consumers which
doesn't mean anything other than we the performer the creator are bringing it straight to you this
isn't some i get it there's a ton of youtube specials out there and there's a ton of netflix
specials out there but this is higher level and i'm not in the industry that way and honestly
i had that show on a network before and they betrayed me and they stole it so i couldn't do
that so the deal is i'm going to bring you the highest quality show on the internet and i'm going
to bring you the highest level stand-up you've ever seen it's shot so beautifully the sound is
crisp and clear i spent kind of all my money on it and what i couldn't afford tom segura came in
and gave me the rest on a loan i give it back but once he's recouped he's fine he's out we're also
paying the comedians for the first time any stand-up show they are part of the profits
so if you buy it i would say buy the entire season you're supporting not just me and my
endeavor to make great creative high high level stand-up comedy you're also supporting the
comics you're putting money in duncan trussell's pocket if you buy the show and it's not just a
donation you're getting something amazing for it and i know it's tough not everybody can afford
you know 30 bucks for anything it's not for you but for those people who have money for
entertainment this is less than the price of any stand-up show for any comic you'll see on the
lineup it's honestly the price of a movie right now is 25 bucks for any new movie on you know
anything that you pay for and this is that and you're getting four movies worth of time
with comedians like nate bargazzi duncan trussell shane gillis tony hinchcliffe tom segura joe list
robert kelly sam talent roy wood jr the greats of my old storytelling show miss pat ali sadiq
big j okerson and many many more it doesn't stop it's one hour of high level stand-up comedy
at the end of my storytelling show called the end plus everybody gets the prologue for free unless you buy
episode two only and that is a clean episode and you can't see the prologue um that's it you can get
it at rechef.com and please guys if you've ever wanted to support me in my endeavor to be an
outsider and make crazy shit then this is the time put a little in and then enjoy it watch with
your friends it's great and the response has been out of this world so far and i love every one of
you everybody who said they saw and loved it god damn it makes me feel good so that's it let's
go to hawaii guys rechef.com support me and my craziness let's start the episode excellent i mean
clearly that was better yeah it was it was just as good as the first one it was significant so
we can tell the first one was bad because of the man you got to treat the people who work with you
better this is a community work will set them free duncan what work will set them free where
you guys work will set you free where have i heard that before what my that's my wife has that tattoo
you
don't you
there's a fucking rebellion here they're trying to take over are they really yeah i support the
workers do you hear the word supplant yeah they're trying to supplant christina well look man
the i've heard about how they get treated around here so yeah they took christina's car and they
drove them she drove like through a bunch of red light really yeah through reds over and over and
over again got her like six thousand dollars in tickets then put it back where you've been and
where you're going
welcome to you be tripping everybody it's a travel podcast um you've seen it before i go to a
different place every week with somebody who's been there it's the only uh podcast that believes
that uh r&b has no place in the rock and roll hall of fame keep them separate but equal um make your
own country clubs so to speak and that's what you'd be tripping stands for
it's not rock and roll it's something else there should be a hip-hop hall of fame also dolly parton
your country she shouldn't be in there country clubs are dumb aren't they dumb what do you mean
like a place to go to play golf and play tennis separately from everybody country clubs airport
lounges oases of dipshits like you know what i mean and it's not that it's not that it's and i
don't know if oasis is the plural of oasis but i like dipshit but you when when we were living in
asheville yeah you joined one we we were in a neighborhood right by a golf course and they had
a pool and it was cheap this is asheville so this is not like the country club here you got to put
down like half a million dollars it's crazy but it didn't matter that this is a a cheap country club
like this is just a shitty pool the food kind of sucked it didn't matter
but the clustering of people because they were at a country club had an air about them of being
oh you shouldn't be proud they were proud proud to be separate and we were newcomers to this place
yeah i didn't even play fucking golf and you know just the looks you would get of kind of like do
you belong here that's what i feel whenever i'm when rogan flies me first class i see people
looking at me like you're not you shouldn't be up here that's all they're doing is thinking you're
like that nobody feels like they belong in first class and if a couple people do like people do i
was standing in line tom tom feels like he's getting something bad happened to him when he's
in first class somebody yeah that's where it gets really funny people get in first class they think
it's coach yeah first class is a nightmare i was in line at the airport in this uh you know they
announced the medallions or whatever and there's one medallion you hear about they but no one ever
comes up purple heart it's
like a purple heart it's that level i know they i was out of my meal choice once so you get a
purple heart they did a silent a moment of gratitude a silent moment of gratitude for like
the triple ivories or whatever and this dude was one of these triple ivories or whatever i don't
remember what it's called a sterling ruby and i said whoa you're a sterling ruby is that really
hard to get and he goes yeah
what a fucking chad what a fucking chud like that i was even asking what a fucking dork
yeah where are we going today what do we want to talk about look man um you've been to one place
in the world ever i've been to a bunch of places but not nothing that exciting happened to me i've
been to some places i thought we could talk about the time i went to eastern europe with some friends
and some of them got kidnapped by these sex traffickers and tortured and uh uh you know like
we were staying at a hostel and they all got fucked up by these rich people oh but um i thought we could
talk about hawaii okay that's cooler
it's so great it's like the wrong choice it's like but you know whatever uh it's nothing you know
pretty basic so let's hawaii you want to talk about why yeah yeah i mean i don't know if that
really counts i think because it's not really supposed to be america no that's true it's like
here yeah it definitely is funny that that you're there like oh this is america and there are people
who don't know that it's america there was some some somebody like some aggrieved leftist
made some post about how they were going to leave the country to hawaii
and because of colonialism and the problems of america
on every level
it's the craziest country to go to to protest america
that's funny but she didn't know it was america oh really no she thought she was going to another
country she didn't know hawaii was america so she was like making a big deal about leaving the
country which is on par with my other favorite leaving thing which is when people leave twitter
it is my favorite those tweets are the funniest fucking tweets can you call some of those up it's
so funny to make the big announcement guys i'm out of here i need everyone to know that i'm better
than you in some way i can't tolerate it here i can't tolerate it and i'm gonna take to this place
to let you know that this place is negative i mean it's the same kind of announcement like
if something happened maybe i had a nervous breakdown and i realized i think i'm gonna
become a monk it's the kind of announcement i would give my family like guys i'm gonna leave
now i'm going to a monastery you won't see me for 20 years i know i'm your father but a greater
calling there's a greater calling you're saying
that guy should just this just irish goodbye the family i'm saying if you're leaving fucking twitter
just go don't act like anyone gives a shit the the the posts act like there's gonna be a day of
mourning they act like elon like someone's gonna immediately a phone will ring on musk's desk and
he's like what oh god oh god no no you wanna hear something funny yeah elon musk my friend works at
the forest department forestry service forestry service they get emails from him all the time
what have you done to help further america today what have you done to protect your job and then
there's all this stuff where any biodiversity mention of biodiversity comes up with a flag of
diversity and it gets bounced back oh my god because they're so strong against diversity
it's like they're like we can't have that like so they have to rephrase all their stuff
you know what's crazy about
like one of the one of the things i i have several things that i have a great deal of respect
for elon musk he's like one of the top rated diablo players he's a gamer good sound systems
in those teslas and he's he is on ketamine and lets everybody know cool good dancer so
good day great dancer god he's so smooth but you know having been addicted to ketamine for several
years uh i recognize a lot of like for example one of the rules if you decide to get addicted
to ketamine that you have to establish for yourself is you must not tweet because on ketamine
yeah it's something about it i talked to hamilton morris about this there is a bizarre kind of
egomania that happens with ketamine where you know it's sort of like coke just ketamine well
it's kind of like you know they say opposite stand back to back i think they're overlappers
well they both are white powders they're both great at a bar for a little toots toots they're
both great at a bar but with with cocaine yeah you could keep doing rails or key bumps of cocaine
and you're gonna get like you you know it wakes you up it's a little reset with ketamine yeah you
go over the one one bump too many and you're you're gone like you're gonna you're going to go
into a completely alternate dimension you're gonna merge with reality and you don't want that to
happen so you're always as a ketamine user you become familiar with what it feels like when
you're about to go into the k-hole okay and you learn how to sort of get to the bleeding edge of
that space and sort of enjoy that place or how to throw yourself over but it's interesting contextually
to look at everything he does from the lens of that dude is blasted on ketamine that's interesting
wants to go to mars
you know what i mean these are things these are things
on ketamine yeah these are things are like yeah his child a bunch of symbols
dude but on ketamine you're like it sounds right it makes sense like you're like
from your perspective yeah all of these things and so from an artistic perspective
i think it's a real a great uh creativity enhancer yeah but from a trying to do anything mechanical
technical send a text send a tweet anything that involves any kind of just like basic i don't know
which side of the brain is in charge of math but that side of the brain takes a vacation when you're
on ketamine yes so it's curious to watch what he's doing because and it's also i love that he's just
saying yeah i'm on ketamine all the fucking time and then a biodiversity something getting flagged
for biodiversity yeah from that perspective makes sense yeah and i think it's a really good point
it makes sense he and you know and i i'm guessing like that if he's on ketamine you gotta wonder
what so if i'm sitting can you guys get us some ketamine by the way no you bring in some i don't
do it anymore i don't i for real i just i know i know that look i swear i stopped i i stopped when
um about it the last time i did it was um when i was in san francisco
and uh it was the coolest thing happened ever which is i'm just like i i stayed an extra day
uh just to walk around san francisco was the night before my extra day and i don't know how it
happened but these like british this old these like older british dudes are like you like drum
and bass i swear to god you like drum and bass music and i'm like yeah and they're like you come
with us and i'm like yeah and they're like you come with us and i'm like yeah and they're like
and like i got in the car with them i know you shouldn't do that they took me to an underground
drum and bass rave it was insane like real fucking drum and just like you're just like
vibrating then i got in a i was i got in a conversation um what with this like just
strikingly beautiful gay dude and like we're just talking and he's like you want some ketamine i'm
like yeah
and so then that was the last time i did it and it was of course incredible why because it was
perfect and you couldn't top it what because you couldn't top the experience it was no no just
because um you know what sounds great dude when you have kids yeah you can't be on fucking ketamine
well i can do blasting rails of ketamine in my in my wait when was this san francisco thing
this was i wasn't around any kids i was on the road oh you're a volunteer fireman you don't want
you don't want your
fireman on ketamine you don't when you have kids anything can happen yeah don't do it around the
kids dude well i'm always around kids oh i just and also just wouldn't feel right just to just
but you're doing any kind of rails anything when you got kids and you feel like no you gotta but
you gotta like don't give them rails of ketamine but give them something that is like you know
baby powder or something you'd be a great dad yeah yeah it's good dad advice like you want to
give your kids baby powder to snort while you do ketamine yeah
so they feel like they're belonging or they're come on in guys your daddy's about to disassociate
why don't you snort some carcinogenic baby powder guys where's that ketamine already
let's do rails of coke and ketamine and just guess pick a pick a line i could tell me pick
a line just looking at it or as soon as it's in your nose uh probably if i had to bet i think
looking at it but i don't know about that for sure i dated a chick here once and you could
put a pill in her hand from behind her back she'd tell you what it was and how
much the dosage was wow that is so cool and it's so interesting how people like that are just
right next door to being like incredible pharmacists like that that's an amazing like
you a lot of these depraved life activities it's almost like your karma was to be a pharmacist
yeah it's like a choose an adventure book like do you want to be a junkie or a pharmacist and
you can you do one of the oh actually i'm pretty sure a lot of pharmacists are junkies how could
you not take a pill in your nose
make a little extra your own little let's talk about travel today oh yeah why did you go when
so you went to hawaii for what for that those conferences i know well yes like um so
you went before i did you were going always yeah i i i don't remember the first year that i went to
these things it was it was the right after my mom died okay and i'd already like sorry again about
that it's
not enough to say you're sorry it's my mom it's all you're gonna say yeah you're sorry so what
does that do for me my actions bring my mom back you're right what are you doing shuffling
come on come on oh twenty dollars yeah so that's what my mom was worth to you at this point it's
been years so you're saying she depreciated in value yeah yeah yeah right there
would have been hundreds tariffs are fucked up thank you you're welcome um apology accepted
hi guys arty shafir here breaking into today's episode to let you know a little bit about the
guest duncan truzzle first and foremost he's on a new stand-up storytelling show called the end
his story is out of this world he's uh tells a story about taking his children to a taylor swift
um concert film and it's it's nuts uh he's an episode called uh not all heroes
right he's an episode called uh not all heroes right he's an episode called uh not all heroes
wear capes, where I am also in it, and Mark
Norman is a headliner of that episode.
Um, it's great. It's a great one. It's actually my favorite story that I've done on this,
on the show this season. I did three, two real ones and then an Easter egg. They're all real,
but an Easter egg one that you'll find. Um, well, if you don't know, I don't want to ruin the
surprise, but there's another one. Um, please get it right now at rashafir.com. You can get,
uh, this episode of Duncan's on for $5 and 99 cents. That's really nothing for an hour of
standup comedy. Highest level standup comedy there is. There's also an Easter egg in this
episode. Uh, please leave in the comments. If you'd like that Easter egg, if you've seen it,
leave in the comments about it. Um, Duncan is the most creative man I've ever met in Hollywood.
He's the most creative man. Uh, no one's, no one really comes close. It's not really a,
it's not really a, even a discussion. It's Duncan. And I was like, I, I think I found his number.
I was often like, I don't think it was, or I think it might've been Chile.
Or Argentina. And I said, Duncan, would you be willing to do this thing that you're going to see?
And he goes, Oh yeah, that sounds awesome. Can't really do that when a network gets involved. They
go, no, no, I'll make it standard. Me and Tony Hinchcliffe were talking about this, how he,
at the end of every one of his specials. Now he's thanks everyone. And he puts in a very specific
except Ari Shafir, not Ari Shafir. Networks won't let you do stuff like that. He's got to have the
power and I do too. And the reason I have the power is because you guys have supported it.
And I thank you all for watching.
Everyone who's watched it so far. God, you've made me so happy. The ones who have left comments.
I know some of you are surprised. You're like, Oh, I didn't realize this was like
a better show than anything that's ever been put on Netflix. Yeah. This is some Kevin Hart
dumb fuck thing where he's like, let's just get some money. No, no. This is me realizing my dream.
If you want to be part of that dream, go to AriShafir.com right now. And a minimum by the
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Off. Is that right? Yeah. That's a bonus of 20%. Two extra ones. I have a five, 40%.
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what Duncan Trussell calls the new model. And let's make comedy without any sort of rules and
regulations that networks will give you. It's real. Duncan's on the road. You can find all
his tour dates at Duncan Trussell.com. May 1st, we'll be at Philadelphia.
At Helium Comedy Club. Then Cleveland, Ohio. Hilarities. These are both great clubs he's
performing at. Then May 15th, La Jolla Comedy Store. Oh, three for three for Duncan that weekend.
And then in June, Charlotte, North Carolina. Asheville, North Carolina. The Orange Peel.
Get it, Duncan. Get a pen there. It says I stole this from the green. Then the Wilbur in Boston.
Austin, Texas. And the Mothership. He's headlining a weekend. Probably already sold out.
Albuquerque, New Mexico. Fort Worth, Texas. Detroit, Michigan. And Brooklyn, New York at
the Bell House, November 18th. Go to DuncanTrussell.com for that. You can also listen to his
podcast or watch his podcast called the Duncan Trussell Family Hour. I have been on at least
two times. And I'll be on in like a couple of weeks. So subscribe to that podcast and subscribe
to my podcast, You Be Trippin'. It's the only funny travel podcast there is. No, actually,
Montandana is a funny one. And actually, Small Brain American is a funny one, too. All right.
Well, for the comedians, it's the only one. I'm also on Legion of Skinks every Monday.
Check that out. LegionofSkinks.com. And that's it. Let's get back to the Hawaii for this episode.
He's so interesting, Duncan.
Hi, everybody. One break-in announcement really quickly to tell you. Ari Shafir Jew is on Netflix
starting today. That's right. I know. It seems weird. We're like, wasn't it on YouTube?
Well, it was. And Netflix has decided to make Jew the very first special they've ever picked
up off YouTube. It's quite an honor. Yeah. It's a mazalto for all of us. So go to Netflix
right now and watch Jew again or for the first time.
When your parents die. Yeah. And you know, it's since you're a kid, you know, when you
start finding out your parents are going to die and it's like you start getting this sense
of there seems to be some kind of scam happening.
Because nobody told me this shit. Like for you, you're born with some general sense of
immortality. And then depending on the parents you have in the West, they kind of slowly
break it to you. Like, yeah, you don't stay here forever. And then you connect the dots.
You're like, but you'll be here forever. No, I'm not going to be here forever. You're going
to watch me die if things go great. Yeah. All right. It's good. Or you're going to bear
me or I'm going to bury you, kiddo. And so, you know, you you you have to deal with that
over a lifetime. And you when you're when you go through periods with your parents where
you generally don't want to talk to them and they're like, why didn't you call me? And
then but inevitably your parents die and nothing prepares you for that moment. Nothing can
prepare you for becoming an orphan later on in life. But it's it's like so you you
nothing can prepare you for that. It's the first experience. Well, it's the first one
for a lot of people is the first. It's a major experience of the reality of existence. And
in other words, a lot of people walk around this amazing bubble. Yeah. And in that bubble,
they haven't really considered the precarious nature of their own existence. And so they
walk around acting like assholes because they don't understand that.
And any second you just keel over like that just happens. Your heart fucks up, your brain
fucks up or your dearest friends keel over and you get a call. So when you get this two
major confirmations when your parents die, generally your mother's the more intense one,
I think. You know, when people are dying, they call out for their moms. They don't call out for their dads. So anyway, isn't that fucked up? Isn't that fucked up? But it would be weird if
somebody was like, "Dad! Dad!"
Like, "Gay, gay, what?"
"Just die, pussy!"
But so it hit me really hard.
Okay.
And Raghu Marcus, who runs Ram Dass Foundation, it was so cool because I'm just laying in bed, just so depressed, man. And like, just fucked up.
And, you know, he texted me--
In LA?
In LA, in Atwater Village, laying in bed, just in this miasma, just like, ugh. And not even like, grief is so weird. Like, it's the weirdest thing. It's basically, you've made all these neural, my theory is you've made all these neurological connections that connect to mom existing. And then there's this vacuum. And so they're connected to, like, this
It's essentially, like--
Nothing to bind to.
Nothing. And so it throws you. Grief is crazy. And anyway, he texted me, and he's like, "Just come to this retreat. Don't think about it." That's what he said. He's like, "Just don't even think about it. Just go buy a plane ticket and just come to this thing."
And I remember getting up, all bleary and depressed. You know what it's like to be depressed, dude, when you're just like, literally, like, walking through, like, it's like someone pouring--
Yeah, like, poured oil over everything. Things just are just sluggish and slow and foggy. So I get the plane ticket, and yeah, and then I get on a plane and fly to Hawaii to go to a spiritual retreat. And dude, like, you know, in those days, I was really dreading it, because I had no idea what this was going to be like. I'm like, I don't want to be around a bunch of fucking hippies.
Yeah.
I don't really feel like doing this. I'm not quite sure I buy it all the way. I was hyper.
Yeah, what do you think you're walking into? What's a spiritual retreat? At that point, what do you think it's going to be? A bunch of people fucking dancing with elephant pants?
Yes.
To drum and bass?
Abs-- well, not drum and bass.
Or to, like, whatever that jungle music is?
No, kirtan. Singing Hare Krishna. Basically, like, so I'd already met Raghu. He'd done my podcast. So I already, like, knew he was cool. He was not like--
Is he the one that you're like, "I have mushrooms for you," and he goes, "Oh, cool," and just took a bunch?
No.
Who was that?
There was somebody who was like, "I gave you, like, a week's worth, like, a bunch of, like--" And he was like, "Awesome." And you're like, "What are you doing?" And he goes, "Just go."
Oh, I can't say who that was.
Okay.
I don't know if I have permission to say that, but--
Okay. But you remember that?
A wonderful--
I remember you going like, "Whoa, whoa!"
A very, very talented musician. I love his music. But-- and it-- because I remember, like, doing the whole speech, because I had these penis envy mushrooms that are the most insane things ever.
They're the best.
And I was-- I'd already had an insane trip on them.
Yeah.
And I told them, like, "Listen, this is not normal mushrooms. They're penis envy mushrooms. These blah, blah." And I think, as I'm describing why, to be careful, he's like, "Okay, yeah, just eats so many of them."
And it was fine. It was fine.
We were in Bonnaroo, and I got mushrooms for everybody.
Oh, that's so nice.
For all of comedy. Yeah. I've done it for a couple festivals. And everyone's like, "So how much should I take?" You know, you've been the shaman--
Yeah.
--for a bunch. And then you're like-- they're like, "Well, I don't want to get crazy. I don't want to, like, be lying."
I don't want to, like, be lying on the grass without, like, "Okay, let me take a few off your hand."
Yeah.
Someone else is like, "I want to get very fucked up." And I'm trying to, like--
Yeah.
if they're like why don't i get too i'm pulling something back from each person yeah and then
christine okerson is just like you know you were eating everything you pulled back
well some people really uh work well with mushrooms and some don't like mushrooms are
really interesting in that way because they have their own personality yeah they will they will
like if if you need a life lesson they don't care that you're a bonner like they they will give you
the teaching no matter where you're at and i don't think people understand that it does what
it wants it does what sometimes you're like but i barely even took any it's like it's not i i do
didn't need to take any actually but like yeah that that that's a fascinating thing about them
too is it seems regardless of dosage sometimes sometimes you're like i took a ton i'm barely
feeling it yeah and the mushroom is just like no not today yeah no we're not doing a class today
but then you take like a cap and they're like you know what i think it's time for me to teach you
about emptiness
and the interconnected web of nature and yeah and then you're just free but okay so you show
up there or you're going yeah so i so i show up there basically not knowing what to expect but
having like a um a real sense of dread about what i had done and and um what do you mean what you
had done signed up to go to a retreat and uh because it's like i don't know i don't i don't
want to do you know like
there's so many embarrassing things people do at retreats like embarrassing things like um
what's it called that awful kind of improv dancing people do together i don't know what
it's gonna be do you know i'm talking about no so bad it's so bad look up there's some kind of
improv there's just awful shit or like yoga where they lift you up on your back and they
go down somebody's feet acro yoga yeah all that shit you know all the stuff that loosened up
people do and you're like oh my god i don't know what to do i don't know what to do i don't know
what to do and you and it's a nightmare for me so i didn't know if it was going to be like that
and um i you know i but i remember i had a day before the retreat and uh i'm sitting in a hot
tub at this place i think it burnt down called the banyan tree inn um and there are these two
women there this is in maui there are these two women in the hot tub and these women are
into vajrayana buddhism
shaved heads they're going to the retreat and we start talking and one of them says
about their partner yeah she's going to become a monk and it was the weirdest thing for me to hear
because this is the first time i'd really been around people who are seriously seriously engaging
with a lot of this stuff right this part this one they were going to abandon their relationship and
become a monk for the um a
nun for the rest of their life and so uh it was really wild i remember that moment and then uh
i remember the first day they're going to become a monk yes and how was how was the other those how
was the partner she was they're both buddhists so they're both they're not like faking being happy
so they're just very honest and the partner says i don't want her to do it but there's nothing i
can do this is her calling and lesbos yeah that's what they call it and they're both buddhists and
they're all out there
that's the hawaiian word for lesbian lesbos yeah i learned that from lilo and stitch
but
the dylan free waters by burke kreischer soft plush and round just like burke
and also strapping straps like he's trapping and brown brown yeah brown brown like blackface
get him i don't know where to get him but get him they're good the birds get him
the next day of the retreat um
there's ramdas
and he's in his wheelchair and you know ramdas is the leader of this crew ramdas is the you know
ramdas is kind of only for you really ramdas wrote so ramdas was a harvard and we could do a whole
podcast talking about the history of who this person is because he's fascinating but basically
his name was richard alpert he was pals with tim leary they were both professors at harvard
and they this is both this is
before lsd had become illegal um and psychedelics were illegal and so they were uh psychologists
and they were really interested in these drugs because uh they they felt like these drugs
what like kind of like where we're at right now is um is where they they realized we could
be like now we're where there was a sort of dark period when because of the prohibition
but these albert and leary both realized that these psychedelics seem to have a positive impact
on uh the human brain and but we call that neurogenesis now i don't even know if that's
what they called it back then but they realized that there were so many potential uses for these
psychedelics and so they started doing experiments with lsd most famously the good friday experiment
where they gave was mushrooms they gave mushrooms and they gave them mushrooms and they gave them
to a bunch of people i think i don't know what denomination the church it was a church on good
friday which is pretty much the grimmest part of the christian holiday this is after the crucifixion
of jesus they put a a blanket over the cross it's like they're mourning the crucifixion of christ and
so they wanted to see if they could induce mystical experiences by giving psilocybin to people on a
holy day did they tell the church yeah they told them okay and they're but they and they you know
they did the placebo half of them got mushrooms half of them didn't they did the placebo half of
them got mushrooms half of them didn't they did the placebo half of them got mushrooms half of them
didn't they did the placebo half of them got mushrooms half of them didn't they did the placebo half of them
got mushrooms half of them didn't they did the placebo half of them didn't and they talk about it
didn't and they talk about it
didn't and they talk about it was very easy to tell right away you got
was very easy to tell right away you got
was very easy to tell right away you got placebo and who didn't i think it was
placebo and who didn't i think it was
placebo and who didn't i think it was synthetic psilocybin which is what a lot
synthetic psilocybin which is what a lot
synthetic psilocybin which is what a lot of them are taking is synthetic
of them are taking is synthetic
of them are taking is synthetic psilocybin because you could measure it
psilocybin because you could measure it
psilocybin because you could measure it out do you know the new
out do you know the new
out do you know the new experiments you're doing with with l with
experiments you're doing with with l with you feel if that's what they're
you feel if that's what they're
you feel if that's what they're inducing right incredible that's
inducing right incredible that's
inducing right incredible that's incredible it's convenient it's very
incredible it's convenient it's very
incredible it's convenient it's very western very modern very capitalist it's
western very modern very capitalist it's
western very modern very capitalist it's like now you can go to work and be
like now you can go to work and be
like now you can go to work and be productive and i was worried when they
productive and i was worried when they
productive and i was worried when they did this for weed with like cbd and thc
did this for weed with like cbd and thc
did this for weed with like cbd and thc but it's okay you can still find the th
but it's okay you can still find the th i mean also not everybody needs to be
i mean also not everybody needs to be
i mean also not everybody needs to be on two or three hundred micrograms of
on two or three hundred micrograms of
on two or three hundred micrograms of acid there's packets out there yeah and
acid there's packets out there yeah and
acid there's packets out there yeah and that could really cure
that could really cure
that could really cure what
okay okay but back to this so okay so
okay okay but back to this so okay so
okay okay but back to this so okay so that's ramdas that's he i i mean he so
that's ramdas that's he i i mean he so
that's ramdas that's he i i mean he so looks so different with a beard than
looks so different with a beard than
looks so different with a beard than when he was in college to summarize
when he was in college to summarize
when he was in college to summarize they get kicked out of harvard because
they get kicked out of harvard because
they get kicked out of harvard because they're taking psychedelics they're
they're taking psychedelics they're
they're taking psychedelics they're giving psychedelics to the students
giving psychedelics to the students
giving psychedelics to the students they're having
they're having
they're having the experience which is they're
the experience which is they're
the experience which is they're realizing
realizing
realizing that there's this role that
that there's this role that
that there's this role that they're playing in the world the role of
they're playing in the world the role of
they're playing in the world the role of the square
the square
the square harvard ivy league psychologist
harvard ivy league psychologist role that's in in within that role of
role that's in in within that role of
role that's in in within that role of you know i'm this and this is this is me
you know i'm this and this is this is me
you know i'm this and this is this is me and everything outside of this isn't me
and everything outside of this isn't me
and everything outside of this isn't me it's a kind of trap and so it's not just
it's a kind of trap and so it's not just
it's a kind of trap and so it's not just that
that
that harvard is like get out of here and it's
harvard is like get out of here and it's
harvard is like get out of here and it's connected to andrew wheel by the way
connected to andrew wheel by the way
connected to andrew wheel by the way the vitamin dude with a big beard like
the vitamin dude with a big beard like
the vitamin dude with a big beard like it's a whole scandal but regardless
it's a whole scandal but regardless
it's a whole scandal but regardless they get kicked out of harvard and
they get kicked out of harvard and
they get kicked out of harvard and essentially
essentially
essentially ramdas uh
ramdas uh
ramdas uh goes to india and he goes to india
goes to india and he goes to india
goes to india and he goes to india because he wants to give
because he wants to give
because he wants to give acid
acid
acid to people who meditate he wants to give
to people who meditate he wants to give
to people who meditate he wants to give acid to people who've been practicing
acid to people who've been practicing
acid to people who meditate he wants to give acid to people who've been practicing various forms of
various forms of
various forms of meditation to see if they had a map or an
meditation to see if they had a map or an
meditation to see if they had a map or an understanding of what this spiritual
understanding of what this spiritual
understanding of what this spiritual space was the lsd
space was the lsd
space was the lsd created for people and so it's you know
created for people and so it's you know
created for people and so it's you know and
and
and so he
so he
so he went to india with lsd
went to india with lsd
went to india with lsd specially made for him
specially made for him
specially made for him by um
by um
by um oh god what's his name the guy who funded
of the Grateful Dead. Oh God, I'm so sad. I can't remember his name. It's really annoying. Steely
Dan wrote a song about him, Kid Charlemagne, but he was this famous acid chemist in San Francisco.
He whipped up a special batch of LSD just for Ram Dass. And I met his wife at one of these
retreats, by the way, she's awesome. And I asked her, why is LSD as good as it supposedly was back
then? And she goes, because people aren't perfectionists anymore. She was awesome.
so owsley yeah so owsley i know some people aren't perfectionists anymore they're just
like good enough he was whipping up apparently the most insane acid they say that when i know
someone who rode with him when he was going around giving it to people and he said people
would come out of their houses and do a full prostration laying on their stomach bowing them
like he was a saint because his acid was that good so he whips up this batch of insane lsd
he's just hamilton morris well that's yeah it's a past life of hamilton it's like chemists who's
like but it's about the fun yes wow well anyway uh alpert that's ramdas's name at the time
uh ends up my short shorts weirdo you know it's true though you gotta i don't think there was
it's like you didn't take enough acid to not wear those shorts i like the other picture cuts it off
just at the top of it
short yeah it's just that's a way better picture of him tucked in t-shirt man well look anyway so
yeah sorry i'm glad you pointed that out though because i wouldn't have noticed yeah they gotta
be suspicious but honestly if that guy was like do you want some acid i'd be like sure yeah jean
renunciate out there named bhagavan das and uh renunciate yeah renunciate like this is someone
who renounced everything everything so these people are all over india there's people who
just are like at some point yeah i'm just gonna like not do any i'm not gonna do anything except
walk around and pray i'm not gonna own anything i'm not gonna live anywhere it's like it's like
you know sadhus is what they call them and they just wander through india and india is built
for this to work like people will give them stuff but they're the idea is i'll eat what
people give me i'll have what i have and then i'm just going to meditate and so ramdas starts
going around with this guy through india no shoes walking through india shoeless now remember this
is an ivy league professor he's suddenly following this dude who was from california
around barefoot through india and he tells stories about how he tried to impress him
telling these incredible stories about flying in an airplane he could ramdas know how to fly a plane
flying a plane with tim leary and um bhagavan das would say to him just be here now that's the
past let's don't worry about that anymore and just he said he would like he didn't seem to sleep
he said that he would wake up and like they were camping out he'd wake up and bhagavan das would
be meditating he wouldn't be sleeping like really interesting dude and so um but alpert was getting
like sick of india and he was going to leave to go to japan to study zen they had some kind of
range rover a really nice car that one of alpert's friends had let them borrow and this hippie he's
been following around was like dude my passport's about to expire uh we gotta go talk to my guru
and so that respect
response is exactly alpert's response a hundred percent you go to the fucking embassy like what
what are you talking about you need to talk to your guru what's he got a stamp a flat tire stamp
your ship yeah so that's exactly how he felt and to make matters worse um bhagavan das wanted to
take the range rover up into the mountains to his guru and alpert was now getting real like fuck this
you're not gonna drive the fucking range rover but he did he went up there with this guy in the
goddamn range rover they get up in the mountains this hippie gets out of the range rover and
goes running up a hill this in india in india okay goes running up a hill to this old man
sitting in a blanket up the hill surrounded by people and crying he's weeping running up to this
dude up there and albert's like oh my god and the whole time he's thinking about the range rover
he's thinking like they're gonna fucking take this shit from me are they bandits what is this
bullshit and so then um bhagavan das after a while comes down and says to albert he wants to meet you
and so albert's like all right here we go and he goes up the hill and there's neem crowley baba
um there's what can you pull up a picture of him neem crowley baba i thought it was like a baguette
stand how do you spell that come on it's obvious
yeah neem crowley baba n-e-e-m-k-a-r-o-l-i you lost me in the second letter
i only guess what it was n right and then that so there's this guy up there in a blanket
and yeah there's this dude up there in the blanket and he goes up to him and the first
thing he says to him is can i have your range rover what really
and and so so um
and what what's interesting about that what he did is when you meet a lot of these people
they will go exactly to your most neurotic point and say it to your face but you haven't said it to
anybody and it it's like it pops a bubble and because when he says can i have your range rover
everyone laughs so hard around him because they're like he's not gonna drive a fucking
range rover he doesn't need a range rover he's just fucking with him and so um
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it's a fucking crazy night we're gonna have here shit's about to go down
we're here to talk ball this is a love story media herpes gonorrhea aids i'm desperate i'll stab you
with your motherfucking one of the worst things that could happen what's your favorite bible
verse i'm like i don't know any i'm catholic did you just shit your pants it's not my shit if you're
up there lady don't call me i'm the bad guy in the story i know that i'll be a better person tomorrow
at least you're not a bad guy
he's consistent finally something we can agree on discuss it in hard
it's not the evening i planned but i'm having a blast now if you'll excuse me
and so then he um basically uh in this i've heard this from many different
uh people he uh i mean there's these things they're called cities and it's you most of the
time when you hear someone saying this shit it's not true but in this case i believe it but
basically he told albert exactly what he was doing like three nights before not what he was
doing but what he was doing what he was thinking and because he had this moment when he was taking
a piss and he was thinking about his mom uh who had died and uh her her spleen something's wrong
with her spleen and he said to him two nights ago you're under the stars thinking about your mother
now these are this is being translated and then in english he goes spleen
and so albert he thinks it's the cia that's his first thought
like is this some kind of fucking setup he's he this doesn't work for western psychology that
someone could do that and so it basically he says he felt something in his heart rip like he felt
this weird feeling he starts crying and then alpert becomes um associated with neem karli baba
for the rest of his life he gets the name ramdas and so the love serve remember foundation is um
sort of what foundation it's called love serve remember because yeah because um
you know famously um well that was like he wouldn't let people write down what he said
he didn't want any of that shit should have been called love serve don't forget so it could be lsd
ah well he that's another famous story about it is like he uh he he he was like give me
give me your acid neem karli baba did yeah and so he gives him lsd
it
again this is like no joke lsd this is lsd they probably make us in deep india deep india he's
like give me your acid he said people were never done no hadn't reached india yet i mean albert
was one of the ways it was reaching india this guy takes acid nothing happens albert goes back
to the united states tell some of his academic friends what happened they're like dude this is
an old indian swami trick he palmed the pills he didn't take it there's no way you're going to take
that kind of lsd
and not have any effect the next time he went back neem karli baba said to him the last time you were
here what did you give me and he said uh you know lsd and he goes did i take it and he goes he goes
i don't know and he goes give me more so he puts it in his hand these are tablets he chews it up
in front of him very slowly and now i know people who were there when this happened who saw it
happen who saw like opens his mouth sticks his tongue out coated in blue and albert because he
was pretty sure he's palming it gave him way more than he gave him last time and so albert is like
i just killed an old man like i just killed an old man i just killed this sweet old man out in the
more lsd than i've ever seen him when he eat like i am fucked because it's like he's thinking like
as most of us would think right like it would be it would be like if you're if your kids got into
something like you're like oh my god and so he some a little time passes and he goes under his
blanket and he starts shaking he starts shaking raving shaking albert and i know people who saw
this they said ram das's face the look of horror on his face no idea what to do and then he comes
out of the blanket and just laughs and then the rest of the day totally normal what yeah dude
yeah what how do you not react to acid well because people like that they um you know if
you think about what lsd does it's melting your identity you know so people like that they they're
they're they don't quite have the same kind of identity anymore they're kind of one of the words
for people like that is a corpse the universe speaks through so i'm sure he was some part of
was high as a fucking kite but they've they don't identify with that as completely them anymore
the guy who took me for ayahuasca who took me to whatever the village he was like i've done a bunch
whatever but he took his kid once his kid was like 17 or 19 and he said his kid nothing really
happened to him he goes he had nothing to work out wow
so he's like man like a feeling a little there you go yeah how about the people are crying of
like yeah there you go and i've seen there are people like that and that that was one of them
so anyway i talk too much about his story i know i do that but this retreat so then ram das becomes
ram das there so ram das becomes ram das ram das goes from ivy league professor to the one of the
one of the like uh main like i guess you could say translators of eastern spirituality into a
western what are his parents vernacular this they didn't like it i'm sure not his dad called him
rumdum that's pretty brutal that's pretty brutal he got you there rami rumdum imagine it's like
imagine the parents friends like is your son still teaching at harvard like no yeah no he got kicked
out because of drugs went to india and then he's literally like having the the earliest version of
these retreats were on his parents estates his day he comes from wealth
and suddenly this fancy ass place and i think upstate new york i'm not sure where
is filled with hippies who who have read beer now or have heard about ram das and they're going to
find him and so essentially these retreats are a combination of people who are sort of moved by his
teachings or by people who were there with him in india and um and they're all like super fucking
cool because these it wasn't
what i expected at all which is like crusty like uh new age people these these people are like
people who like smuggled hash in the 60s you know these are like old school hardcore hippies
who met this dude and got so like radically transformed by being around somebody like that
because people you there aren't a lot of people like that but when you run into them it isn't like
you run into someone at a rave and they're like i can see your chakras and you just want to you just
want to go piss you want to get away from them as fast as you can yeah the story is that it's like
you feel like you've been you've known them forever you feel like they know everything
about you and they seem to demonstrate a kind of unconditional love that you most people have
never even experienced for you that isn't like doesn't have any strings attached there isn't
anything there
and whatever that energy field is it it radically changes people for the better and so that's what
the retreats were and um yeah yeah that's what the retreats were so then you're in maui in a city or
like or like this was it the first one was at this yoga retreat center it wasn't by the ocean which
was bullshit and they were doing these uh they were doing these like uh tour the spiritual places
of hawaii bullshit
and i was ramdas was i don't think ramdas went but a lot of the people at the retreats they were
like driving them around to cool places cool spots to check out and um ragu at one point is i'm like
god damn it i guess i gotta get in this fucking van and get hauled out to a goddamn waterfall i
don't want to do that ragu is like you're not going with them you're gonna come with me now
and he took me to ramdas's house and i got to i got i'm suddenly like in a swimming pool with
this he's living in hawaii yeah he lived in hawaii he lived in hawaii this famous zen roshi roshi joan
halifax like a like hardcore zen teacher ragu some other hippies and the zen roshi is carrying
ramdas around because you know he had a stroke he's in a wheelchair they're laughing these are
old friends it's like us hanging out they're all laughing they're having so much fun the energy in
that house is so much fun it's so much fun it's so much fun it's so much fun
man i can't even tell you what it was like and at some point for the first time since my mom died
i felt like i was gonna be okay and right at that moment ramdas looks at me and he goes
i want to talk to you he had this funny fake fierce thing and so then i'm like up in his house
and he like wheels up to me and dude
i've never experienced anything like this before because there's like
something in india they call it darshan there's a formal instruction that can happen sometimes
and he goes what it's a kind of formal interaction with a spiritual teacher it's formal not in the
sense you're wearing a suit but it's different because you know i would hang out with ramdas
at these retreats or eat with them it's different this was like something like those formalities go
through not formalities it's just i don't know how to explain it other than it's it's kind of
like a podcast i guess you could say in other words like right now we're having a conversation
kind of formal conversation versus if we were out to eat or something right there's a sense of
it's not seriousness but a sense of like this is real like there's something here and uh he just
he goes uh and this is gonna sound that's the funny thing about these moments is what i'm
gonna say doesn't put it on a fucking cereal box like it doesn't seem like a big deal but
he he's like uh he goes you're here pointing to his head and he goes you need to
get here and because he had a stroke you know he couldn't like talk like he used to be so
articulate and funny and then he's like we can help you with that hey guys today's episode of
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back to the episode and like again man it sounds like no big deal but like something else was
happening and i don't know what that was but then
you know like i'm crying he's like and i'm like oh i wish my mom was here she loved you and he goes
she is here but it was weird because it wasn't like you know metaphorically she's here like
your mom is everywhere now or it's like she is here and then this is where it gets weird
we end this this very quick conversation we end this quick conversation and he's like uh
he's like uh his cat jumps on his lap
and he he has his twinkle and he goes she sleeps on my chest at night and i'm like cool all right
it just seemed kind of completely not connected anything you're kind of ruining the moment
ramdas so i go and tell my brother yeah the whole story your mom was into ramdas yeah okay so yeah
so i go and tell my brother the whole story and i'm like and then he said his cat sleeps on his
chest and my brother there's this long pause he goes you don't remember do you
i'm like what he's like that's what mom used to say all the time that how she liked that the cat
slept on her chest at night and so it was just a weird synchronicity because he just said my mom
was there and then he said a thing that she used to say all the time that i didn't even recognize
in the moment that my brother told me later and i think of those things as like time bombs and
these people will plant them sometimes which is and they don't demonstrate this shit it's in fact
really like uh frowned upon to do what that that they can you're not supposed to freak people out
like that like you don't want to do like the dude in the game shows like says your mother's here and
she's telling me this or that there's a very like kind of politeness to some some of these things
that you might encounter around people like this yeah where like through time later on you realize
what they what they were saying this is dune this is dune when they set in like all the stuff
and it's like way earlier yes benedict yeah they're like it'll be paid off in a few generations
bingo it's like that there's a there's a real like general um not prohibition but there is a
like a kind of like uh if you make any of this stuff about like some side effects of it then
people just go for the side effects they don't like go they they become interested in it because
they want to they want to be harry potter or something oh
okay so so then so then you just started like i'm in no i threw him down what i was like get my mom's
name out of your mouth from us why are you fucking saying did he give you acid don't do your hippie
magic on me man i know what this is fine i'll suck your dick fine i'll suck everyone's dick
here i guess i have to i was already they're like nobody wants you to do that i know you
take your pants off no um so no i wasn't on any drugs um and and again now that's another thing
that like i started going to these things man with a real kind of lazy cynicism like a kind
of fashionable cynicism it's fashionable it's fashionable to be skeptical and cynical about
stuff that i'm talking about and i understand why because you you it sounds so ridiculous
and we've all seen the cult documentaries and we've all seen yeah you gotta know it sounds
like those things like those shockers it does and and like so the it's yeah so i so it's like
the the the this was why i i i started trying to do everything i could to offend ragu
because i i thought to myself if i can offend him if he says that is you're over the line don't say
that then i know
know that i cannot be involved he's a phony no it's like a cult if there's some kind of prohibition
on any kind of freedom of speech then that means that it's fucked up it's like you got to watch out
if there's like off-limits subjects or if we're not allowed to like you know i remember saying him
once you guys were young then you met some guy you're on a bunch of drugs isn't this kind of
just nostalgia aren't you just kind of like trying to get to your childhood again through
this you're just hanging out with your friends and and now it's really edgelord and i'm like
here we go this is it baby dagger in the fucking heart like now he got trussled and he goes is it
great when you get a line where you're like oh right right on i'm like this is gonna hurt you
yeah i got you good now and uh and i'm you know full full like comedian hypersensitivity like
like fully watched
watching to see what he does yeah and he laughed he goes i don't know maybe
it was so real and sweet and he wasn't hurt he wasn't offended and um and uh yeah so i've been
going back to those things every year since then this reminds me of uh they they did the ufc
interviews with the fighters back forth back so they interviewed one like you're a fighter and
then they then they don't interview me but then also what you said about about the fight coming
up
and then they'll go back to you and say what i said so funny so they had um anderson silva this
and this one guy was like i'm gonna i'm gonna take him to the ground i'm gonna get on top of
him i'm gonna i'm just gonna beat his face and then they're like hey so well he said he's gonna
take you down uh get on top of you and like beat your face and anderson he one of the greatest
of all time he goes i mean if he does that he'll win for sure
it was so like solid yeah man do it it was no like what totally ruins
the game destroys the game yeah so then you start going a lot every year i go to these things every
year every year i go yeah and you became like what are you in the leadership there at these
points are you just like taking the classes um well they let they like me to do podcasts there
so like i i'll like i get to like like interview people um but you know like to me sort of the
problem that started popping up is originally when they were letting me interview people i was like
i'm gonna let you interview people ramdas thought it was funny because i was saying things that you
aren't supposed to say like like i i didn't have anything to lose i'm not trying to be some
meditation teacher anything like that and he thought it was i think he just thought it was
funny that they were just letting someone like run amok in front of the this like whole group
of people who came to a spiritual retreat and uh but then the more i kept going to these things
i i almost started having to fake
this cynicism and the skepticism like it's sort of what happened is it
it softens you up it like it's really hard to maintain the the defense mechanism stuff
and the shielding stuff and all that stuff if you have tricked yourself into thinking i believe
you know i'm i'm only like fine you say this happened or whatever but i'm gonna believe my
own experience but then when you start experiencing what it's like to be around um that kind of like
love or that kind of not love in the gooey bullshit way but what it's like to be it's though
it's you know you're it's like when you take ecstasy and you know when that feeling of like
that moment where you forgive yourself then you forgive everyone around you
then you want to you recognize everybody's just wonderful and trying
to get through their lives and you have that experience that's really profound
you can have that experience minus the ecstasy and that's why people have been doing this shit for
thousands of years because there is a possibility for sort of not having to be so goddamn pissed off
and grumpy all the time but um you know and and and so that was a really like that that over time
um though i'm still a fucking asshole over time
that that you know you have to be cynical about it that's your stance and then be like actually
i kind of love this it's actually kind of like political commentary has that too once they get
go to the meetings with them or comedians doing like award shows and then you're like well i've
actually met these people yeah for me to like make fun of them or you know like go to cocktail
parties with them think of fat comics uh-huh the ones who've made their whole set about being a
fatty yeah you're mean to fat people they're gross lev ew
who lev fur who's lev fur look up lev fur and how fat he is i can't believe you have like
in your mind a list of fat people so fat and he got fat over covid so everyone came back out of
quarantine who the fuck is lev fur this fat piece of shit he's not even that fat look at it look at
the one in the middle live at the comedy cellar they had to move they had to move the word side
to side to make room for his belly that's a fat piece of shit now down there is when he wasn't
fat and he was a good-looking guy and then covid happened and pizza delivered
dude oh ew that one he's filling up the hole all the way in the left all the way to the left
yeah he's filled up the whole frame he's so fat like i it's disgusting how is lev fur stuck in
your craw like what what did he do to you man i don't know this guy i never met him but you're
you know when you're you're i watched your face yeah you crumpled when i mentioned get this guy
gets this fat piece of shit off the screen it's disgusting get this guy off the screen
what did he do what what did he do eat all he did was eat for like years well anyway what what
were you saying um so it's like when you think of a fat person wait what were you saying sorry
that's so fucking oh there's so many fats red band man dude uh h foley sagalos fat okay so
the fat thing when you're when you've invested your identity in being fat uh-huh and there's lots of
different versions of that that's dia said he couldn't lose weight he wouldn't be funny there
you go or you know they're let's say you become one of these body positivity influencers and you
you build a career on being fat so like your whole thing is like you got to be fat yeah it's okay to
be fat they need to make plane seats bigger you know here's the i follow an account that's like
like uh fatties of disneyland where it's like what the best places what rides you can ride what rides
can't ride scooter lanes and so what happens when you get crystallized in that form is and it's very
sad or or you know um the stoner comic all they talk about is weed now they got to be a stoner
forever or whatever so when the and when they're like i'm kind of done with this smoking every day
now what you're gonna lose your old fan base like what man come on do that joke about hog legs take
your shirt off exactly
exactly exactly so it's just a mess and uh that that kind of dawned on me is i realized that i
had solidified this kind of hyper cynical sort of but i'm spiritual but also and i but i realized
like i'm not this isn't so much me anymore and it's still there but it's just kind of like now
i'm just like doing old jokes now i'm just like stuck in a kind of loop because i want people to
think i'm cool and um and and uh what the moment that that got like that bubble got popped and
that's what's so cool about these retreats is like dude there are these people who come to these
fucking things like owsley's wife like people who look like that the the the scientists from back to
the future like old school like hippies deep hippies it's not all just spiritual people it's
people are famous in the psychedelic movement because ramdas was sort of the con the the
convergence of you know new age spirituality and 60s site the psychedelic culture um so this you
know a llama who is like you know someone who's like friends with the dalai lama someone who's
trained in tibetan buddhism but they're all wearing like hawaiian shirts you know what i mean see you're
not you don't know in this one one of the he comes up to me like taps me on the shoulder he's very
polite he's like may i may i make a observation and i'm like sure i'm not thinking this is a
fucking llama and uh this sound it's so to you it's like it's somebody after a comedy show going
can i exactly exactly and also my inflated fucking ego is like go ahead you think i'm
funny right here we go and he's like he goes you know that that cynical thing you're doing
and he goes he goes you know in a few years
that's gonna be the same thing as like saying groovy it's not gonna age well he's like that's
just a fad right now and then he goes i know i know in buddhism it's called wrathfulness but
it doesn't look like anger it's like direct direct honest truth you're good at that too
it's good it's all it hurts stings in the moment but it liberates you long time long term you get
liberated and then he's like uh he's like uh you know if you don't
really feel like that way anymore and you're acting like that he's like it can actually
kill you he's like it can make you have a heart attack
because it puts you in a place you're not yeah yeah exactly and i was eric griffin said i said
that to him once when he was i was like we were just talking and i went over to his like second
chin and i was like what's this he goes what i'm like that's new huh and he goes i just started
going to the gym yeah yeah after that he's like i'm done and it's crazy because someone can do
that out of avarice of what you just did to that sweet rotund comedian and it hurts but if someone
does that and the intent isn't to hurt if there's love there and then also if they've sort of
practice some practice that then that can actually be the thing that that like really helps you
and and had more than like listening to a hundred hours of audiobooks on meditation
it liberates it's not gonna
age you
well it's gonna kill you being something you're not yeah brutal brutal but it is i mean you start
being like a live a lie yeah and it's like i gotta keep living this lie it's just not me anymore
you got it you got it you got it and and that yeah once your heart's not in it you're just like
but you know the problem is we also we if you also grow a group of people around you
based on your identity at the time so it's like dude that's the other problem is like
you
if if you do start having some kind of change for better or for worse yeah maybe you are like someone
who gets into heroin and you've been hanging out with professional athletes or something they're
gonna be like you know i don't know if you should come jogging with us on heroin anymore you keep
falling down that's why i was my left orthodox judaism and we're like we can still be friends
like of course we can and then it was like there you go forget the little minor stuff like which
restaurants can we eat at i eat a lot more than you guys do
that it became like we just don't have anything in common anymore or when all my friends start
having kids where it's just like i don't want to look at your fucking baby pictures anymore like
what wait what do you mean you're good about it well don't wait stop for one second yeah
babies please i send baby pictures to my dearest friends and though most i get a card from you a
year and it's okay no i send it to my dearest friends they don't write me back but i assume
it's because they're so astonished by the beauty of my child
yeah they're my three children four children they're my children it sucks that they're
my beautiful loves that kid looks hawaiian
that i mean tongan let's keep it real for america that kid looks tongan beautiful children beautiful
babies um oh look at the bottom damn he's so cute actually they're so cute fat babies are so much
better than oh they're rolls also black babies black under under 10 is way cuter than white under
10 jesus fucking christ ari why i feel like it's a podcast this is like jared from subway's podcast
this is the last podcast jared from subway did
did was there ever people at these retreats that were like didn't fit in
it was like you can't come back you're just like you're not doing it right
dude that's the really hilarious thing about these people is like you would think that right
and for sure it's not like everybody there is all mystical and shit for sure i mean because
this kind of stuff draws into it a lot of different types of people you're going to
get people who are grieving you're going to get people who are dying and you're going to get
people who think they're jesus you're going to get people who want to be the next ramdai
so you're going to get people who want to be you know who think that they are these accomplished
advanced souls and they show up and they're very loud they're very it's all about them
you know what i mean they're they're and and and um you would think that um
there would push back i don't think it's i think the the reason these ramdas retreats trick your ass
is because it's in hawaii it's in a beautiful resort in hawaii than a pili kai it's fucking
beautiful and and like so you go there kind of thinking it's going to be a vacation yeah right
but it's an actual retreat and a good retreat if some part of you gets zapped dude and so
like something will come up inevitably no matter how much you think it won't no matter what you
think something comes up and so a lot of people are dealing with that there you know what i mean
there has to be a lot of patience there's got to be a reason they went there instead of just to
like the the the like fuck marriott in right yeah well it's like why are you going to that
if it's not even a yoga retreat where it's like i want to work out but just so it's like it's that
well because because he wrote all these books and that really did like change a lot of people's lives
and also associated in that community are like a lot of like great like buddhist teachers like
jack cornfield trudy goodman
rosie joan halifax i mean there's a krishna it's so weird that they have americanized names
it just never sat right with me they should all have those ramdas
names and when they have like jones something you're like it just you know what my meditation
teacher's name is david what dude it's such a bummer yeah i love him so much but like like
you want you want them at least dionysus wear a robe i want something
you know you want like but but it really that's what's very funny i mean that's why you know
i have a different attitude now when i meet people who don't look like this or that because a lot of
these people they just look you wouldn't my meditation teacher you would never know in a
million years if you sat down to talk to him that he was like worked for years with chogyam
trampa rinpoche was one of the great teachers of vajrayana buddhism and a real lineage of buddhism
who was like one of the tokus who was as a kid taken into the monasteries and like taught this
stuff you you wouldn't know that and uh and i think there's a kind of on purposeness about that
too which is because uh it really that in our culture that doesn't really make that much sense
yeah because also like the robes and all that stuff is kind of like a crown it's kind of like
for that type of thing it's like oh wow you're like really this thing originally what the robes were the
the saffron the orange robes that the buddhist monks wore yeah is that's what they buried like
so it's poverty that's what they buried criminals in so it's like look how nothing i am not just look
how nothing i am i'm like a criminal corpse get you something i remember just right now there's
one of these guys i was at a vipassana retreat in northern thailand that's crazy you did that
how long were you in there for i was trying to go 10 days made it five and a half six not bad
yeah day every day meditating
all day long wow i met some bad kids and they were like smoking eating oreos and then when
curl was there and i kind of really wanted to like kiss her and it just made me hang out with
the bad kids well that's an interesting thing about deborah one of the other bad kids not the
one i wanted to kiss but the bad kids of a pasta retreat oh my god oreos like demons smoking and
wow it's crazy how horny you'll get meditating for a long time so horny yeah oh my god i know
you clear your mind and the thoughts just pour in a
revenge or it yeah so then you meet this like cool traveler girl and you're like whoa
you're sitting there meditating lusting away and so she was like well i'm headed back to
chiang mai i'm like i'm coming i'm coming so wait did you guys hook up we kissed once
yeah but that was it i was too thirsty i was i was like re-virginated i hadn't been jerking
and doing anything for like months or i was time i mean over
months so five days of meditating of a passion retreat is no small feat so there was this guy
there a richer guy he was annoying he annoyed everybody yes he wouldn't sit like i have trouble
sitting with my feet behind me because i'm on my my foot like goes this way underneath so i have
to stand with my legs to the side okay like that instead of like straight out so that or do the
fucking this one you know yeah but this guy would just get a chair and then he would also like munch
on stuff and you're like shut up and he was like and then he also paid extra for like a private
place where it's like and he would come late to things ah and and just make kind of noises and go
and it was just like uh yeah and we do the slow walk meditation and you're like oh i got stuck
behind that guy we all hated him yeah i think now he was sent as a test to us to be able to get full
clearance it's like well i need so there's no birds or no sounds of humans out here there's
birds i mean there's no sounds of a chainsaw it was sobering
remote that that guy was our test dude okay listen to this this is crazy you're mentioning
that i'm listening to this pima children book and this is exactly the chapter i'm on and she's
talking about uh this idea that some of these teachers have that you actually need that they
like it when they start getting triggered like that because when because what's happening in
those moments is you're being shown your wall here's your wall this is something oh yeah oh yeah
and and all of these teachings generally revolve around not turning away from that wall trying to
fix
the situation ignoring the situations running from the situation attacking the situation
what happens if instead of focusing on what you view as the root cause of the fury what if we just
take the story away and just look at that feeling right that's a guy who's doing this thing he's
centering attention strip away the whole story so why do you care no not even that oh so you are
taking remove the guy completely from the picture okay now there's just a feeling now there's just
this taste yes and so how long what happens if you start just being with that feeling because
generally when there's a um when there's someone like that around you want to get away from them
you want to attack them or you want to try to ignore them and in buddhism these are the three
roots of suffering or those three roots of suffering
those are the three things those are the three things desire aversion aggression so you don't
get the fuck away you want to attack you want to change the phenomena around you to to fix the
situation and so the idea is what happens if instead of trying to change the phenomena
and to fix that feeling we just start getting a little more familiar with that feeling
what is this feeling that's the a little invisible motor on everyone's life it like it clicks on
and gets you into some kind of habit some cycles some of us go and play video games some of us
confront some of us like ignore and get depressed and and and so what we don't even know we're doing
we think this is how you should respond to these situations this is about what happens if instead
of that you just start exploring examining or allowing that feeling noticing so to get it to
the point where you don't you don't have any any
baggage on top of that as if you like came in you're like oh yellow chair instead of green chair
yeah you're like i don't care i'm just noticing it's a yellow chair yeah yeah it's it's a that's
a guy who does this or this is a guy who's angry about a guy and he oh fuck there's that feeling
again and you start not realizing that feeling seems to basically be the same it seems to have
a volume maybe where sometimes it's at a 10 sometimes it is at a six you begin to realize
that the feeling seems to be the same the things that trigger it have different feelings
different faces different uh there's different your plane didn't make it you're not going to
make your plane you whatever the fucking thing is but you start beginning to realize that actually
the feeling itself is always the same and so it could be that if you spent time with that feeling
and like cultivated the sort of courage it takes to sit in that place instead of trying to fix it
that in buddhism that it says that that
that that self-liberates meaning that it's almost like you you take the flavor
out of the flavor dispenser now the flavor is gone so you know what i mean in other words
because you have confronted the feeling directly you'll notice that people like that don't quite
bother you as much as they used to and and so i gotta do it with lev
dude i mean lev is your guru this guy you need to go out to dinner with him you need to go
you know what you need to do with lev that was my goo you need to travel with him i do
interesting you need to go on a trip with him maybe a food journey somewhere yeah but buy him
two seats buy him two seats you know sorry i never i think you're great ari i don't know why he's mad
at you mitzi's do that with us i think sending us fucking chuds nearby because it was like maybe
he'll be good but either way he'll drive these other guys to fucking be bitter and angry and
maybe it'll make him better a hundred percent yeah and then you're going to be like oh my god
this is what pima children was talking about you get in as if you you manage to curate a life
experience where you're around people i think comedians this happens less so but you're around
people and they just are like yes i agree with you and then somebody this is how she put it in her
book suddenly somebody says to you i think that's not real at all what you're saying i think what
you're saying sucks and then you're like oh what yeah how what about you uh me and my ideas and and
and then there's two things you can do in that situation you think about what they're saying is
it true or not if it's true great i will i'll i'll change my opinion or um if it's not true oh they're
wrong or you do what most people do in this world it seems like you get on the team of people who
all think the same way and kick out all the people who don't think the same way yeah this is how we
get world war three that's how pima children puts it so it's like you want those people around you
we get that as comedians you know what i mean because god damn it inevitably some son of a
is going to say some to you that like stings a little bit it stings it's not just like
but it's not just like you're an ass it's like you want that i don't like what you're saying
one little salt in the soup yeah so do they still have these retreats now now that he's passed
who runs them oh it's just the love server member foundation runs and they have different teachers
every every time they're doing all the boone now too they do them they do what in boone north
carolina they have them too uh but yeah they're just they're great man they're just like how long
do they last for just like three or four days no big deal what's the food you've got your own they
have a buffet is it like uh like buddhist with no meat no okay no there's meat yeah you could it's
there's a bar at the napili guy that's cool yeah there's a pasta stuff was no all cabbage
pretty much no vipasha that that's hardcore what you did is like that's like that's a marathon
you basically just ran a marathon you wake up immediately go to some to you read something
quick then go to meditation then you get a little quick breakfast after the monk seed
and you can't eat once they can't eat so what they can't eat past noon so you quickly eat another one
at like 11 40. yeah and then you're just done unless you meet a bad girl who's got oreos oh yeah
baby i'm very impressed that's an intense five days of that level of meditation do you think it
changed you at all yeah yeah i can't tell you how or why but like now but like for sure it's like
you can face these things that's what it was where it's like what am i upset about this
the revenge and the sex were two big ones because they're both like you got to get
back to clearing your head yeah so the sex is going to come in then you're like
did i ever tell you like how you get rid of it there was a couple ways where it's like you're
thinking about sexual thoughts you're trying to meditate and you're going uh heel toe heel
toe as you're the walking meditation yeah heel goes down toes going down i'm like now my toes
going up now my toes going down whatever so now all of a sudden you're kind of clearing pops
into your head sex and whatever and and then like oh you're passing a cave i want to take a in
there and just bend her over and like whatever yeah and uh and then they go okay look at that
thought like you said that's a thought of a human has for sexual congress you know yeah it goes you
had that thought before now who is this person you desire now what's going to happen to them in
25 years they're going to age a little bit what's going to happen to them in another 25 years they're
going to be an old lady oh yeah an old lady now what's going to happen 30 years after that well
they're gonna be dead now imagine them imagine oh yeah baby imagine them dead you're speaking
about imagine them in a helpless coffin helpless in a coffin and now maggots are like crawling in a coffin
through their eye sockets
he goes at that point your boner should be gone once you start thinking of them as this decrepit
and now get back to heel down toe down that sounds like a very monk thing to say you see
the to me that there's just too much math there like the like if i gotta go all the way
through this life after i bang him down in a cave to the point of maggots in their coffin and
to not be horny anymore yeah i'll just jerk off yeah i jerk off but but the the the what what
the idea is is like yes that's a technique another technique is just when these things emerge you
think thinking and just go back to following your breath all right because that's all it is it's
just uh your thoughts and emotions yeah and again it's a process it's not like right away you're
gonna conquer your horny and it's all these teachers talk about just how horny you
get really when you're mad oh that makes me feel so much better and also that revenge the people i
hated would pour in oh yeah yeah that that that was the most freeing part here's the really intake
interesting takeaway didn't pour in the interesting takeaway is actually when you when you
sit what's really happening is you're experiencing what's always there yeah yeah minus the distraction
other stuff is going away yeah
that's why people could change so much they're in covet where it's like actually i have to be at home
now for six straight months what do i want to do yeah i finally want to make that kombucha or i
want to like i should like spend more time with my mom or i want to cut out this person or whatever
great every 10 years we do that every 10 years get on it jews
every 10 years you just that's it everything shuts down for a year it would be great do you
ever go to hawaii or maui without this yeah you do yeah you enjoy it there well yeah i mean like
it's the most beautiful place of all time but you ever go to like out of the you know the moment you
go out of the room you're like i'm not going to go out of the room you're like i'm not going to go
of the resort like what i think is interesting about all those places is if you go off the
resort path you got to go to the grocery store whatever and you see all these people who move
there after one vacation and they fucking hate it and you just see people like melting down because
or what are you a spear fisherman do you surf are you a fisherman like you just like drinking and
you like walking around for seasons now you're living in this small town you can't get off of it
and boy you're just stuck and i've met people who try to move there thinking that they were ready
for that level of calm and relaxation they go fucking nuts i knew a guy in my writing class
who was uh he moved there kind of retired with his chick with his wife or something like that
maybe just by himself and he was playing golf every day and it was paradise you know and he
goes i suddenly woke up one day i saw a straight line to my death he was like 60 he goes i saw a
straight 30 year line straight to my death of golf every day hanging out drinking and he lives in
like i'm that's not gonna be my life yeah dude like it just none like you if you're gonna live
in hawaii yeah you better like you have you better have been going to a lot of apostasy retreats too
or surf so methie yeah you need to surf like there's i don't like i or be born there and get
used to it or know all the secret places yeah you know there's secret why it makes you horny too
i mean everything makes you horny dude like so i fucked on the in a car on a beach once i fucked
on a golf course right there in the um near black rock you were so let me ask you this i got caught
they shined the light we're trying to pretend we couldn't like you're into that public sex no it
was dark because that's like like that's it was just there i was like i don't know i hate it every
time i've been you know that's a nightmare when you're with when you're dating and you realize
the girl you're with come fuck me in the dressing room yeah and you're like dude i'm not doing that
to anybody because someone opened like everyone's gonna be happy to see you getting fucked no one's
like they're gonna see my hairy old ass my scoliosis wrinkly butt weird squeezing squeezing
me pumping away like a like a chihuahua no stroke or anything just almost like a seizure and it's
gonna stick in their head and it's gonna hurt their minds i hate exhibitionist sex and people
it's not exhibitionist it's just it is exhibitionist you're hoping no one comes by no you like it the
charge comes different things different things different things different things different things
no it isn't it's a different thing every perv says that every perv has a way to rationalize so you
now we know something about you you want to go to a private place to fuck i'll go into your trunk
have you fucked in public more than 10 times what's in public oh my god oh my fucking god
you're basically jeffrey dahmer like dude he was just hungry so you like banging in public i like
banging and if that's the place to do it it's like all right but it just happens you end up in
public a lot this one chick wanted to go into the like a construction site of a house and i was like
someone's gonna see us i'm not into getting caught sure right here right it's great at the back of
the main room at the comedy store sure but in the back not in the middle of the main room you're not
a shoplifter because you just you're not into getting caught for shoplifting right i mean i'm
i'm i'm liberating this stuff from the rich liberating anything from whole foods
right ari so you're a shoplifter exhibitionist i steal but i don't i don't steal going look okay
everybody i'm doing it i do it in public but i don't want anyone to say some places you tell
me if you fuck there okay airplane bathroom no there was enough what it's so small i can barely
it's disgusting i have fucked in an airplane bathroom no i'm not gonna high five that you
almost did i don't you thought about it you thought about it it is the whoever invented the mile high
club yeah the most expensive thing in the world it's the most expensive thing in the world it's the
disgusting asshole on earth nothing is more you shouldn't shit in an airplane bathroom much less
fucking one it's nasty there's piss everywhere tears diapers so uh okay what else okay um uh
dressing room yes of course uh strip club you have you at least got a blown job oh you i know
what you're talking about you're just gone broken up we had a friend who was like i need to get you
over this dude i would love you
to know the truth about what happened in there yeah you came back all like hi oh my god so this
is the this is so embarrassing i'm gonna tell you the truth okay so yeah our friend got me a quote
lap dance yeah but i think paid a little more than you would for a lap take care of them there
was some instruction there yeah suddenly like and i this was i don't remember exactly it had
been a drought i hadn't fucked in a long time
yeah and so suddenly i'm in this private room at a strip club with you know a beautiful stripper as
i recall yeah so like not just out of my league but like you know a million miles like so like
like you know like if a god your sport like if aphrodite came in like your your horniest level
and aphrodite appears in your bedroom right before you were gonna jerk off and you're you're just like
this is a
malfunction in the universe like this should not be happening the way matter and anti-matter
shouldn't come together like this should not be happening and uh so i was aware that there's some
possibility of her jerking me off or something and she starts grinding on me yeah i came in five
seconds that's what happened
it didn't like i don't know
what did you do stay in there i'm like we gotta buy time what are you gonna do stay in there you
like now what could have gone to know her i'm ashamed i'm humiliated she's relieved in your
pants yes oh wow so now i got the sticky and the wet and the look of joy in her face i did it i'm
out i earned money so fast this asshole off i just made a ton of money oh my god oh god this is a
great day she's gonna go home and tell her the next morning her kid's gonna be like why are you
in such a good mood i didn't have to jerk off this
idiot last night and uh so yeah that's what happened i came almost instantly because i was
around you guys i was embarrassed because like i just like instant like just just came there is a
unique mixture of of sexual gratitude and shame that comes with coming in your pants at a strip
club yeah a lot like oh god i can't what the fuck's wrong with me yeah it's you you well yeah
because you you i mean it's obviously like a in the moment where you come in your pants something
great's happening like you know you can be assured if you're coming in your pants like 99% of the
time something incredible is happening in your life but then the next second it's the whatever
happened back to reality what the fuck i can't believe i'm in this darkness getting grinded on by
a goddess i'm ashamed mama i'm ashamed last time i did it with norman's bachelor party
and i came out and see all these people that i know norman and fucking list and burt and derosa
and just like they look at you just like look down right you just have to go like that yeah
you just cover up the wet spot you're a bad boy you're a bad boy you're a bad boy are you're out
there fucking in golf courses you're the one who came in your pants yeah i know but i'm a i i did
not i guess it was a public space what's the most public place you've ever had sex
oh god on top of a fucking water tower what i'm in community college i was dating this girl she was
super kinky which i like that's the first girl ever put her finger in my butt and i'd never had
that happen before i couldn't believe it like when it happened i couldn't believe it i don't think i
was new i was just like what the fuck amazing and then but she was also like you she was an
exhibitionist oh yeah and so she was like we're driving around there's a water tower so you know
i don't know what it was maybe not a while all i know is maybe a construction site yeah metal
she's like go i want you to fuck me doggy style up there so it's like fucking on top of a tower
like no way to anyone looking up it's like oh gross like people banging up there like dogs
and it hurt like you're on your knees it's not just metal is that kind of the
great so it's like cutting into your legs and you're trying you know in those days i was trying
to act like i'm down i'm into this so you're trying to do like some kind of like sexy fucking
on a water tower but you just feel like you know you feel like you're in prison you feel like
you're like on top of a prison tower that's the most public space and uh it was horrible
and yeah there were a few other places like that too like in the dirt in front of my house
it was though it's awful man public fucking is terrible i hope that leaves the culture
all right let's call this episode i'm disgusted
okay i love it i love it man well thanks for having me on i hope i didn't ramble too much
man buddy i love that was really interesting i never knew what those fucking retreats were like
yeah i would i would i mean pretty much everyone there is jewish because it costs money
how much do these cost uh well there are payment plans it's forty nine thousand dollars come on
or yeah honestly i don't know because they let me come for free i think i know that it's not
like real cheap i mean it's in a nice resort yeah but i don't know i think also they i don't know i
want i don't want to say that but i feel like uh if there's people out there really want to come
you can't afford it um they might be able to help yes yeah i think they have like ways of doing that
it's like college i got pissed so bad but i'll go with you once or i'll just go come to the next one
now it's not the right time for that why because i'm like look how bad you have to be go pee man
jesus christ duncan trussell everybody bye well that's the episode everybody duncan trussell
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whatever the fuck he is um he's really like ganesh
he's our ganesh actually the opposite ganesh has multiple hands you know like six hands
duncan has one ball and i felt the sack it's really unsettling you go like this and this
part keeps going he takes they're both gonna go um yeah he's helped me learn to meditate
in a certain way not in the goofy way but just to see what i get out of it i was like well i don't
really meditate but sometimes i get i take an edible
and i i'm on a plane during the day and i stare out the window i look down at the scenery and as
scenery changes i let it i let myself get thoughts and i have a notebook on my lap and if i get a
thought i might want to get back so i quickly jot it down and i continue to stare out the window
yeah man he goes that's that's meditation sure absolutely follow that instinct i love this guy
so much he hired me at the comedy store do you know that yeah i went in to apply for a job and
he goes yeah fill out the application you got to come back over and over again and actually apply
like get them to like hire you you're good and uh and uh yeah and he did he got me the job we
became friends he gave me my first molly he gave me a tab of ecstasy um when ecstasy was just kind
of molly it was a little speedy but um now molly's a little speedy but he gave me a pill one of the
a dolphin or a buddha i think i think i might have been a buddha they had stamps on it so you knew
exactly the makeup of how much speed was in this how much meth and how much ecstasy and i was like
okay and he goes this should kick in hard we were out at a bar on sunset at a club whatever and i
remember going like i don't know this is hitting yet maybe i'm getting like a tingling in my side
of my mouth is that it he was like and i know now how ridiculous that was he goes no that is not it
and i'm like are you sure i think i feel he goes trust me dude you don't they give me another half
broke off a half he gave me that
and then 15 minutes later i was like oh apologies for before i feel it now and i feel amazing
there's nothing better than molly anyone who knows anyone who's done molly or ecstasy
you know it because ecstasy has molly in it you know it's the best it's funny i got in uh trouble
for uh and i shouldn't have given some to my friend i guess as well but it split people on
people who like could have died and other people going it's molly chill people who have done it
are cool they go no it's their best night of your life my friend who i gave it to also was like this
is the best feeling i've ever had in my life and then later kind of spun out because his friend
abused him don't ever do that to anybody there's a story about it on the end if you go right now
to rh3.com that's the opening story do-si-do boy oh i couldn't be happy with it uh if you don't
know by now the prologue was made by william child uh he's runs a studio in bristol called
gravy mercedes he did a danny brown
um uh music video he did a um trippy red and i forget the other guy's name uh music video all
his stuff is wild and i could not be happy with the prologue but buyer beware because steve simone
played it for his family he goes let's load this up and he loaded up the show that he's on
um played the prologue and his mom was like oh my god and his chick was like oh my god they
were viscerally affected by it william was listening they were viscerally affected by it
were viscerally affected by it they were like oh and his dad was like this guy's fucking crazy
and then so his mom was like i don't know and then at the end of steve's story i didn't do this on
purpose i go all right say hi to your mom for me and his mom heard that and she goes he's such a
sweet boy mr simone stale number one meatballs in the game literally nobody can make them like you
oh guys i almost forgot to tell you ari shafir drew it's on netflix
yeah i know you might have seen it on youtube netflix made it its first special so go please
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see it yeah uh go into the systems i don't know i actually don't know how to do it i try to figure
out what's high and there was no chance at all of me figuring it out so but if you can figure it out
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need them to be have traveled in a way that david cross is doing acid with people um in the center
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week um how do you say goodbye in hawaiian goodbye in hawaiian let's see aloha
bye everybody
hey i i actually had to show what you see in that prologue that i had to um i don't want to ruin it
for people
haven't seen it yet but i had to yeah i won't ruin it it's a surprise and i didn't want to
read all the trailers i'm like i'm i don't want to show the prologue because i want anyone to
have it ruined but he needed to how do i say this but i had to show him for him to like capture it
i i won't anyway anything you see in there of me is to scale
i mean i looked at him like that's them that's them
i do so different i didn't go like this i didn't do the wind anyway
um it's a cross like i'm like this is what they look like when they're on the floor
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Ari Shafir promotes his new storytelling stand-up show *The End*, which offers high-quality, direct-to-consumer comedy with top comedians like Duncan Trussell, Shane Gillis, and Tom Segura.
The show is priced affordably—$5.99 for a single episode or buy five and get two free—with profits shared directly with performers and a focus on creative freedom without network interference.
The episode discusses Ari’s personal journey to Hawaii for a spiritual retreat after his mother’s death, where he encounters deep emotional grief, psychedelic experiences, and radical shifts in perspective through encounters with spiritual figures like Ram Dass and Neem Karoli Baba.
Summary:
Ari Shafir promotes his new stand-up storytelling show, *The End*, a direct-to-consumer project offering premium, high-level comedy featuring top comedians like Duncan Trussell, Shane Gillis, and Tom Segura. 99 per episode—with a special offer of buy-five-get-two-free, and all performers share in the profits. This model contrasts with traditional networks, allowing creative control and authenticity.
Shafir also shares a deeply personal story about attending a spiritual retreat in Hawaii after his mother’s death. There, he experiences profound grief and transformative encounters with figures like Ram Dass and Neem Karoli Baba, leading to insights about identity, spirituality, and the power of psychedelics. The retreat, initially a place of dread, becomes a space of emotional and spiritual awakening, where participants—many of them long-time hippies—experience deep connection, unconditional love, and personal transformation.
Through stories of psychedelic experiences, such as the time Ram Dass gave LSD to a follower who later described a violent reaction followed by peace, the narrative highlights the profound and unpredictable impact of psychedelics on identity and consciousness. The episode blends personal reflection with cultural history, drawing on 1960s counterculture, Harvard-era psychedelic research, and the legacy of figures like Timothy Leary and Ram Dass. Shafir concludes by emphasizing how spiritual retreats, despite their unorthodox nature, offer real, life-changing experiences that challenge conventional views of self, reality, and mortality.
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Ari Shafir's new storytelling stand-up show is called 'The End.' It is available at ari-shafir.com, where listeners can purchase a single episode for $5.99 or buy five episodes and get two free.
The show operates under a 'new model' where the creator brings the content directly to the audience, avoiding traditional networks. This allows for higher production quality and ensures that comedians are paid a share of the profits.
The 'Easter egg' is a hidden element within the episode that fans can discover by leaving a comment. It adds an interactive and surprise element, encouraging audience engagement.
Ari Shafir attended a spiritual retreat in Hawaii after his mother's death, which he initially dreaded but found to be transformative. He described the experience as emotionally intense and deeply moving.
Psychedelics, particularly LSD, played a pivotal role in Ram Dass's journey. He experimented with them during his time in India, which led to profound spiritual realizations and a shift from being a Harvard professor to becoming a spiritual teacher.
You Be Tripping stands out by focusing on travel with a unique perspective, including critiques of cultural institutions like country clubs and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, while promoting a distinct, humorous travel experience.
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