Heart at the Harper's Bazaar icons party reaches in his back pocket and pulls out about a five-inch switch plate. Flips it out and goes, "Check this out." Just got it, and immediately I was like, "I love this!" Howdy, partner. Why are you saying that? Well, because our guest today is a certified poke. He, I would love to poke him in the hay. I have a poke in the hay with him, I figure that's what they say. It's all a roll in the hay. A roll in the hay with him, yeah. But Hart Denton, one of the wild men, first wild men on the show so far, first one, and possibly only if it goes poorly. Well, without further ado, here's our guest, Hart Denton. Hey, man. Mr. Hollywood over here. What's up, boys? After I spent. All right, what? You guys get 10 minutes. Bro, he's gonna forget it. I got another podcast after this. Whose podcast? I can't say it. I can't say it. I can't say it. It's big. What's up, boys? Hart, I'm just happy that you're back in Los Angeles. Where's my, uh? Oh, yeah. What? Okay. Oh, now we're, now we're talking. Now we're talking. Do you feel at home? I do. I do. And I feel like I love to share you as Taylor. He can't say a name right. Basically, three, and I can get your name right. Come on, man. Mr. Cartier, three, two, and I'm done. I'm not saying his name right until I get to Cartier, three. Honestly, kind of a cowboy thing to do, by the way. Yeah. How? I'm not saying anything to him. That's too much. I want to do. Get that Benicio guy back on screen. He'll probably watch this. He'll do it. Have you got afraid of that guy? I got to look tough. Hart? God damn, I will say. You're pretty tough on the show. Thanks, man. I was, he, he goes to town on, um, who were you hinting with that thing? The cattle. They're going to need to explain that sentence. That's a, that's a branding iron. Branding iron. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, pick it up and I'm just doing what I'm told. Yeah, just. Hey, cheers, boys. Oh, cheers. Thanks for coming, Hart. Wow, man. Wow, man. I know. Well, it's a done ranch. Can I announce it? Yeah. Best reviews of all time. Yeah, it's crazy. It is, yeah, arresting. I mean, I mean, I'm going to say just like Sheridan in general. I think you're an actor in LA. You work out here a while. If you know even a little bit about Sheridan's story, you go, this rocks. Yeah. Sheridan, I mean, so far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, but started as an actor. It's kind of like our heart. A little bit. A very, I mean, he's a very entrepreneurial guy, for sure. Started as an actor. I have worked with actors who have told me that they used to be in his acting classes. Really? Because he used to teach acting classes for a long time. And he really got into writing. And then was just obviously a phenomenal writer. And then now he's like, he owns all the rodeo in the United States. So crazy. He directed a horror movie first before Heller Highwater, right? So he, because he sold the script in Furscario all the time. But at first, he directed this horror movie. He didn't have much prep. I think he wrote some of it. And he hates it. He says, awful. Almost turn him off from directing and writing. He was going to give up. And he goes, oh, maybe write a couple more scripts. Yeah, almost discouraged him completely. No, it was going to leave. Well, thank God he didn't because I mean, it's now he's, there's, there's like 15 shows. I mean, let's say he's a monster to be able to do that much. And the infrastructure too, which we should talk about a little bit. But the infrastructure that he's actually made to make that a reality is cool. You, you were sending us photos from Cowboy Camp. What is Cowboy Camp? Can you explain this to people? So I mean, yeah, I, I thought it was just sort of like a formality. I mean, I took it very serious because it was like, you, you get out there. And it's like, you're with Cowboys like real Cowboys. I mean, there's some from the four sixes that are showing people how to do stuff. And I would, I got their legs that don't know what are the four sixes. Four sixes are the audience that does. Sorry, four sixes is one of the biggest ranches in definitely an America. Is it the brand is four sixes, probably? Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. Yeah, I got it. Um, and which Taylor owns now, he bought that. No way. And he owns another one called Bosky Ranch. And we did our Cowboy Camp at Bosky Ranch, which is about an hour from, or 45 minutes to an hour from Fort Worth Dallas area. And near, it's in like weatherfurt and grandberry in that location. And it is, it's insane what he's built. I mean, when we were there and we were doing Cowboy Camp, there are many other compounds like being built while you're there. I mean, it's all, you're growing, it's growing. Yeah. And it's just, you're sleeping in the cabin. You're, no, no, no, we're in, we're all in a hotel like in the stockyards in, in Fort Worth, which is the, maybe the funnest area I've ever been in my life. Like it's just Cowboys, Cowgirls, everybody's just out playing pool. Two stepping, drinking two stepping. It's like, it is the routiest little like area. And I'm obsessed with it. I love it, the honky tall. Oh, it's so good. There's five bands playing music. You see, it's like, oh, yeah, absolutely. Oh, so, my, not my favorite thing is, you know, it, Sheridan, if you, if you ever see this episode for no reason ever, my favorite thing is he actually came back tougher. You know, he did, it's actually come back tougher, because he was lighter and he was like, he's stronger. You're a little, you're skinny and you're like, "I love art." And we're like, "Oh, he's a band." And then you go to cowboy camp and you started drinking beer. Which is not a joke. You actually started drinking beer like, you're like, "I do, yeah." Like, "Let's go." Because I could. I could finally, it was the first time. Because you find where you could be in shape while. Well, yeah, I mean, but, yeah, so, I mean, on a physical level, I actually could, because I was your waitfish. I was 140 pounds or something before. I was doing research on you. I'm looking to you in 13 reasons why. It's thin. It's skinny guy. Yeah, real thin. But, I mean, look, like a year ago, I would say six months before the audition came. Yeah. I made it a point to myself to go, "Look, I got to lock in because I want to be a movie star." I want to be, and I understand the physical nature that comes with that. And so I just started working out a ton. We were working out a bunch at your house. And I just started taking it serious every day and being consistent with it. And I started to, you know, little by little put on some weight. And when the audition came, I had gone from probably 145 to like 160, I would say. No, you were putting up weight, too. Yeah, because I remember like, when we first started working out, I was like watching a baby bird try to put up 20 pounds on a french fries. So I was like, and you were like-- And then, by the time I saw you, more plates. And I was like, "Damn, dude, how long have I not seen you?" I know. Yeah, I get there, and then two things happened. I'm there, and I'm amongst these real cowboys who are the strongest people I've ever just seen. Dad's strong, just no effort. Some of them are massive, some of them are small. They've been working since what age? They're 12, yeah. Several of them would be like, "I left home to be a cowboy at 12 or 13." And I was like, "That's amazing." "I left home to act in California." Wild men is brought to you by Maud. Maud prescribes a once or twice daily, medaffinal drink that can keep you energized, focused, and alert throughout the day. Here's the mechanism. Energy drinks with caffeine temporarily block adenosine, the chemical that makes you tired. 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[email protected]. See their website for important safety information. And we thank Maud for sponsoring the pie. But then another part of it is somebody that I act a lot with in this show is Jai Courtney. Yeah, and Jai. That Jai is amazing. What Jai is like, he's massive. No, big dude. Big guy. He's like, yeah, I think he's brilliant. He's Australian, you know? And he's a pretty big. I was like, I want to be that big. And I'll never be as big as Jai because he's just, I don't have that frame. But it was just like, I started lifting, you know, a few more reps at the gym every day, just trying to like, because I wanted to, I didn't want to look real thin next to him. Yeah. And I only had a little bit of amount of time to do it. But now it's just sort of stayed a part of me where because I am like 185, almost 190 pounds now, I can drink. Yeah, exactly. Like, one beer is not going to put you off the race. It doesn't, it doesn't destroy me. I can't have a beer. I will say to like, to that point, like, this is why, and you know, people oftentimes, after COVID, I think this became a really big thing where people are like, no, we have to work satellite. Like satellite's the way now. I can work from home. I can do this. Whether you are working in an office, or whether you are working out at a gym, the osmosis of other people doing the same thing around you makes you better by proxy. Yeah. That's why he's doing the cowboy campover zoom. He's at home on his couch. Now you've got to be in there. You've got to do it. And when you're in it, by the time you get to set, and this is why I respect that method so much, is by the time you first say your first line on set, you have been doing it for a month and a half. Yeah. And you've already, like, inducted yourself into whatever vibe you're in, and it's going to be effortless regardless. Was without naming names, could you?
I feel like failed the cowboy camp, could you get it out? Can you like, is there a way to like, is there a passing grade? - Great cowboy. - Did you get branded? - Yeah, there's, it's not just for show. - Okay. - Yeah, you can fail. - Yeah, you could fail. - Do you get a grade at the end of it? - You don't, but every day I was like, am I doing all right like is this? And it was like, they're, I mean, they're the nicest. The thing too is what, you know, I grew up this way, but I got away from it a little bit being in LA, where manners are so important. - Yeah. - I mean, you show up on day one and all these cowboys that are 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years older than you were saying yes, sir, to everything, when I'd ask them a question, yes, sir, that's what you're gonna do, yep. And it reinstilled this in me where it's like, I've come back to LA where I stopped doing it for a while because you would say yes, ma'am, or no, ma'am, or yet. And people were like, don't say that to me. And now I'm like, I'm gonna say it. I don't, I don't care if you don't want me to say it. It has nothing to do with your age. - I'm not gonna do with you, actually. - Is everything to do with my own respect? - Yeah, my man. - Yeah, and what I was saying too early is that I missed, I was a late ad to the camp. - Oh really? - Yeah, I missed the first two or three days that they were out there. I think they started on a Monday. I think I got there on like a Wednesday night. - Like a year in cowboy camp. - Yeah, one week in cowboy, oh jeez. - Oh, I get out there and they're doing some stuff that I was like, they were all home for it. - They were already laughs and wind like, - They were like, we're gonna take cars. - Honestly, they were like, we're gonna take you over to the other arena. - The bunny hill? - Yeah, they're walking you over the rope. - And I grew up riding. My sisters rode a lot. They competed in horse shows. - You did barrel races. - I did, yeah. - I did barrel races, but this was a whole new thing because I didn't do anything with cattle. And this, we're chasing the dummy on the tractor and then we're chasing real cattle and trying to either head or heal them. - How is rope in your first one? - It's so frustrating at first because it's-- - It's so hard. - How many launches we've done? - Before I got one, feels like 1,000. - Really? - Yeah, I mean. - So this is the thing, too, is like, - I bet you could do it for a strike. - Yeah, you look like a guy that got one. - You know, everybody like everyone really bought into it because you would be, we would have cowboy camp at 7 a.m. and we would cut out of their pot in noon because it was July and August in Texas, so it was very hot. And the horses can't take it. So we would finish up, we'd wash them down and get them, you know, take care of them. And then we would all go back. And then we would all, you know, we didn't know each other yet. So all of us went to this, there was a tractor supply-- - Well, there's a tractor supply store near the barn that we bought ropes. And so we would go and we were just sitting on our hotels making ropes because that's the, you know, fundamentals are just, you gotta be able to build a rope. - But what do you mean build a rope? - So a loop. Like when you've got here to get the cattle, there's an art form to getting the loop. There's no knot on it. - There's like a, there's a, there is a knot in the loop that like built the cow was going to be so mad. I don't know all the terms of this right now. They're going to be-- - They don't have you two. - So it's okay. - Well, you officially failed the final test. - I was watching them on YouTube. (laughing) - No, but it's, there's, because there's a lot of coils. Like you have, it's a long rope because you got to be able to throw it. And then it's a bit of lead to go. But then you also got to be able to tie it around. So it's like a, it's, it's, it's harder than you think for now. - Oh, I mean, I don't even think it's harder than I think I think. - I think it's really hard. - It's tough, yeah. - And some people, you know, progress faster than others. And, but I think the people that progress the fastest were the ones that were going home sitting in their hotel. - Just doing it in that style. - Just getting, yeah, getting comfortable with it. And then some people also, like one of the actors on the show, Mark Munchaka bought a, who's great. He's awesome. He bought a, like a dummy. And he would put it outside in the hotel courtyard. - I just sat there and wrote the dummy and just wrote the dummy. - It's a bull dummy, right? Or is it? - Yeah, it's like a little cattle. - Because when you see a dummy, it could be like anything. - No, I'm sorry, sorry. - No, a cattle, it's like a little small, like a, you know, a little small tiny, it's got little horns. - Yeah, yeah. And there's different kinds of sun with feet so you can heal them as well. But yeah, we just, everybody committed on it really hard. It was, I think it was like three weeks total. But I also, I went out there on days that I didn't even have to go, just 'cause I wanted to be around those guys. - It's awesome. - And by the time you, it's day one to shoot, I've been, I've spent, you know, five hours a day, five days a week with these cowboys. I know exactly how they walk, how they talk, how they interact with one another so that when it was time to shoot, it was the first time in my life. I didn't have nerves, like shooting something. - I mean, you look like a cowboy. - Yeah, I forgot it was hard when I was watching it. - I mean, no, truly, it was like you, you fucking demolished it, I thought. And it looked like you belonged on the ranch, it's clearly the cowboy camp, too. Do they use any of the cowboys in the show? - Absolutely. - Yeah, of course, right? - Yeah. - Let's say half of the cowboys and the bonkers. - It's like the guys they see walking around, or are like, yeah. - And they'll, they feed, I mean, they've got lines. - They've got lines. - Yeah, 'cause it's so natural. It's like, it's amazing. - It's the whole way, doing it. - Yeah, it's such an awful show. And that's like-- - And so cool. I mean, I think down to, if we're talking about, that's like top of the pyramid, everything making sense. Every hand's washing the other. You're hiring a guy to help your actor actors, who would just, do nothing but acting. Learn how to be a cowboy while at the same time, you're teaching them how to act. It's just everything's washing each other. And, it's a lot of washing. - And since you washing cowboys, cowboys washing you. - Everyone's washing my back, you wash your back. - So how can you apply for cowboy camp? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can watch. - So, and let me ask you about horses, 'cause this is something that interests me about that, too. Because I made one movie with a horse. And I will say-- - The Chinese movie. - The Chinese movie. And it was still far away. The probably the closest connection I've had with an animal. Bar none, and sorry, Klaus Piggy, my animal's now. But I truly, I will say it is just a different experience. When you are with a horse for that long, and it's the same horse, day after day, there's something about the nature of them being a prey animal and being so responsive to your movements and them testing you as well as you testing them. It's just a different connection. Were you using on Dutch? Do you use the seam horse, or are you going through multiple horses that look kind of the same, or are you riding-- - Yeah, so they put you through, when you go through cowboy camp, they match you up with different ones. - Cool. - Because not everybody's the same-- - Like blind dating. - Yeah, exactly, you control different ones. - Absolutely, so I had one day that's name was like Buddha. And then I had one one day that's name was duck. And then I had one one day that was like Jeff. It was like-- - Did you want it back to Buddha? - Or Jake. And then I wrote-- - Jeff, you crazy name for a horse. - I know, you can't name a horse Jeff. - I must've been so nice to first say you went back to one. You're like, "Oh, Buddha." - I was happy to be here, 'cause like, you know, there was a time, I think I liked duck the most. And-- - I would too. - Yeah, duck was for full horse. - Duck was cool. And I think that's who, if I'm not mistaken, I think that's who I'm on in the show. - Okay. - But there was a day where like duck was, he had like a vet thing or something, or he had some, maybe a shoeing or something. He just wasn't at camp. - I was devastated. - Devastated. (laughing) - My horse is gone. - I've been on it like three days. It was like-- - Bro. - But that was my horse. - I know. - Did you have one horse the entire time? - I had one horse the entire time. Fun facts about the horse that I wrote. Well, the Chinese translation, which is funny, because we use the same names. His name is just Little Red, but it's in Chinese, right? So if-- - Well, they heard you were used to me. So they didn't have a red. - I need something like that. But his name is Little Red in Chinese. And he was a absolute asshole to me at first. He was trying to buck me off. He tested me like, he tested me one really good time. And this was my first time like experiencing breaking the horse to the rider, right? 'Cause they kind of do that. They test everybody that's on the back of 'em. And then once that happened, we were best friends. And I'm not exaggerating. I knew when he was upset. I knew when he was stressing when he was happy when I was riding on the back of 'em. I knew when he wanted to just run. I knew when he knew when I was tired. Like, we were getting to the point where I was like, this is the coolest animal I've ever interacted with. And he was also the horse that Matt Damon rode. - No, in the Great Wall, yeah. - Oh, cool. - Yeah, so he's an actress horse. - That's a good connection. If you ever-- - He's bad, yeah. - I'm working with the actress all my life. Better credits than amazing. (laughing) - How old's the horse gonna be now? - Is it dead? - I don't want to check it out. - I don't even want to think about it. - How long does it just wander? How long do horses live? - They live a long time. - Like 40 years. - But obviously they retire. - 25, 30. - 25, 30. - Yeah, an old horse would be like 30. That's an old ass horse. - So an old horse? - But I think he was around the time that we were working together. He was around, I think he was like 12. - Okay, he's probably still sticking around. - Yeah, he might be working anywhere I don't know. - Eight years ago, yeah. - He might not be working like that's the things. They only work for a certain amount of time. But he did the interview recently. - Yes. - God, I missed Matt Damon. (laughing) - No, the funny thing is is normally, you know, normally I'm consuming red meat as much as possible, especially when I'm in a building phase. But I do genuinely like the Omaha steaks that have been sent to me. I haven't tried their hot dogs yet. And the other thing I still have in the freezer is their chicken. They sent chicken. They have seafood options. They got the whole run. So I'm excited. - The chicken breast are individually wrapped and you can open them up. And I'm like a scared of Sam and L a lot. 'Cause I think I'm gonna throw up if I touch chicken. But this one, I just opened up. I took it out and I pounded them down. Dip them in the egg. - Oh yeah. - And then I dipped up in crushed Doritos. - And I did a fried chicken breast tenders to read those Omaha steak style.
And I go, almost, steaks, but this is chicken, but they do everything. - You know what you gotta try, is Brendan's famous buffalo chicken dip with them. - Mm-hmm. - Brendan makes the chicken. - Will you talk into me? I'm talking to them. - Yeah. - I make a great buffalo chicken. - He does make a great buffalo chicken. - But you can use this chicken breast for it. - You could. - If you are starving 24/7, like us, and you just need meat delivered right to your door. - I also just take it out as a snack sometimes, 'cause they're individually, so I just take out a little pork chop, try it out, boom, boom. Eating a pork chop at 4 p.m. Just a little pocket patty, no? - Mm-hmm. - Try the burger perfection flight at OmahaStakes.com today that's 20 premium steak burgers for just $79.99. - Plus, get 35 bucks off with promo code Wild Men. - That's OmahaStakes.com, promo code Wild Men for 35 bucks off at checkout, turns applied. See site for details. - Okay, I've also heard rumors, right? - Yeah. - Sheridan directs a top like a massively expensive horse. That's what a triage horse or a horse that is so sensitive to the micro movements of your legs that he can ride hands free and direct from a topic. These are like mythical Sheridan rumors that come back to the type of horse. - Well, when I was there, I asked someone that is sort of, I would say close to the situation, 'cause he didn't direct any of our episodes, but I asked about that and they confirmed that. So I haven't seen it in that, but they have confirmed that he does that, which is amazing. He'll also go in like right episode in like three days. Like he can repeat. - He hits on real legs. - And there's just like, you know, it's when he turns it in, it's like. - It's good to go. - There's no shooting screen. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. - Yeah, it's amazing. - That's so cool. - It's kind of like, as an actor, it's kind of the best you get. - That's the coolest, right? - You know what I mean? Like all the stuff that I've done where they're like, okay, we're bringing in a Navy SEAL to teach you how to like, clear a room and shoot again. I'm going, I know I'm in for a great week. Like it's just, all you're doing is having fun. - I've got to be a cowboy, you got to live in a hotel. - Yeah, the two cushiest ones. - Yeah, it's so easy. But I go, that is like, 'cause I think at the core of wanting to act is wanting to play around, dude. You just want to like, fucking play. - Now it's been like, you know, it just sense like, I got back to LA and I'm just not in that routine of where I was. - Oh dude, I'm like, this sucks. I was so stimulated by stuff that I was so enamored by, that it's like. - And you're into, too. - Yeah, you're learning every day. - Every day. And like, all the cowboys, too. It's like when we would go get a drink or something afterwards, they have the coolest stories. Like they're just, it's just, it's so unique. It really was, it's been incredible, honestly. - Yeah, it's tough. I think it's tough in general to be like working on something that you're really passionate about. And acting like, acting's unlike a lot of jobs. We're like, you know, most jobs you go in, nine to five, for five years straight, right? Acting you go in for three months, and then you're like, this is the most fun I've ever had in my life. And then you get back home and you're like, I guess I'll go to Jones on third. You're like, what the fuck am I like? - It's weird. It's weird. - And it can, it's hard to adjust to that. - Honestly, yeah, I just keep cleaning my house over and over. - I'm sure you do. - Just 'cause I'm like, you know, it's tough, it's tough. - You've always been kind of a tough guy though, 'cause I'll regale you with the story of us first meeting. Have I ever told you this? - No, I'm excited. - So this is my favorite thing. So Barbara and I have been dating about a year now. I think at this point, maybe a little longer. I don't know, but I. - It's that late? - 'Cause I knew heart before. - No, so listen to this. - 'Cause Carl knew you first then. - Heart was working on Riverdale with Cole. - Mm-hmm. - And Barbara and I are going back to them. We are going back to Harper's Bazaar icons party, which is actually where we met. - I get invited every year, yeah. - Yeah, I know, you keep saying no. Well, you look, come on, next year. - One day you'll go. - Yeah. And. - Howdy. - I walk in and, you know, it's always the thing that happens when you walk into these places. Now thankfully Barbara was with me, so I'm at least like, oh, I have someone to speak to. But you always walk into these places and you go, all right, where's the bar? Because I don't know anybody here, and I'm gonna need to be in your hands. - You've been in your hands, yeah. - To do something. But before I even got to that point, heart walks up to me and he goes, "Hey, I work with your brother, Cole." I'm all over the part. Actually, Cole told me you were at that. And he was like, hey, Dylan's going to that, go find him. - Yeah. - And so then I was like, that was my mission. 'Cause I was, I didn't know anyone there. That's not my, wasn't my world. So I was like, I gotta find this guy. - So her walk's up to me, he goes, hey, I'm heart, I work with your brother. And I was like, oh, dude, it's nice to meet you. I've heard a lot about you. No joke, the next thing he goes is, you want to see something cool? (laughing) And I'm like, sure? - Should I say yes? - Heart at the Harper's Bazaar icons party reaches in his back pocket and pulls out about a five inch switch plate. (laughing) Flips it out and goes, check this out. - Just got it. - Just, where's his hole in this? - And immediately I was like, I love this guy. - It's guy, I'm gonna just get out of this guy. - Everywhere I go, he's gonna be my best friend. And I was like, immediately, we hung out the rest of the night, we hung out for like three days after that. And I was like, this guy, I fucking rocks. And 'cause you, when we had met, you had taken a situation where I was like, I already feel fucking out of place here. - Exactly. - And you pulled out a switch plate and immediately feel at home. - But it's something cool. - I was like, here's a knife. - I was like, it is cool. - Why'd you bring it heart? It was a wild time. - You see, it was good to be. - New York and, well, you know, that was the same, that was like this, when you know, Cardi B like threw a shoe at Nicki Minaj or some one of them threw a shoe. - I know you're involved in that. - All eyes, guys, next to it. - I was there. - We were actually doing it. - Yeah, when it happened, and I was like, - You could have deflected it. - I could have stuck it. - Here you go, man. - I swear. - How many times do you call someone, honestly, enough jokes, I'm done with the jokes? How many times do you call someone, stop laughing, I'm done. - You call someone, and it goes to voicemail these days, what, 90% of the time? And half of them aren't. Yours doesn't even have a voicemail. - Mine doesn't have a voicemail. - And by the way, I never even get a single ring when I call you, 'cause you send me right to voicemail. - Do not disturb mode all the time. I'm always busy. - Dude, you're very fast with the reply. You can click it so fast. 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Quo. - Quo. - Oh, Q-U-O on a triple, you're getting upwards of 42 points. - You're a strange guy. - I love scrubbing. (laughs) - Tell us how the hell you got to LA for Barbecue. 'Cause when we went to Arkansas, I fell in love with it. - I thought it was great. - My favorite one. - What's the barbecue place you took us to? - Right, it's barbecue. - Right, barbecue. - And it shows the big smokers and everything. - Yeah, do it by shirt. - Didn't they win, like, Best Barbecue in America? - Oh, it's so good. It was so good. - This is Arkansas for you. The guy that's like the head, you know, master-back there. - Smoke master. - Yeah, pit master is doing his thing back there and he's running it and his shirt is a rights barbecue shirt. But it looks like he's had it for 40 years. It's got stains all over. It's got burn marks all over it. And I was like, I want that shirt. Like, can I buy that shirt? And he was like, we don't sell him anymore. And I was like, wow, man, I love it. And he was like, thanks, I appreciate it. We eat our dinner. At the end of it, he brings it to me. Just gives it to me off his back. He's won this shirt for 40 years. This is my favorite shirt now. He just like, that's Arkansas. - Do you give it a wash shirt? - Here, just and now, I'm-- (laughs) - It smells good. - It smells good. - I don't want to wash it. - Yeah. - It's perfect. - That's years. - But that way it's completely sterile, too. - It's actually a free because it's been smoked. - Yeah. - Absolutely clean. - It's just the best. Yeah. - I think everyone's nice. - Yeah, Arkansas is special. It's, I mean, there's no, you have, you have Fayetteville, Bentonville, and then you have Little Rock, but outside of it, there's not really cities. And those aren't really, they're very small cities, but everywhere feels like a town. Everywhere feels so communal. It's my favorite place. - Oh, hey, Hart. - It's like, we're in the hallway. - Honestly, I'll know you. - And that's where I'll say like, too, where it's like, I feel, I'm so blessed and thankful, and grateful for Dutton Ranch, because I, being back in, 'cause I was in Texas, my sister, the one you haven't met, lives in Texas, and my family would come visit for Arkansas, 'cause it's only, it was like six hours from where they lived, and I would go and visit them, but even being in Texas, it felt like, it felt similar in a lot of ways, especially in around the stockyards and forward, that felt like Arkansas. And now I just, it was, that show has brought me back to my roots so much that is, I didn't realize I needed so much, and was like, something I was missing, I think I had drifted away from home, even in my personality and who I was, being in LA and trying to be something that I wasn't, that we're now. I feel so Arkansas and I've always been proud of Arkansas, but now I'm like, that's, you know, I know exactly who I am. And I'll say to that point too, like, I've known you for how long there, eight years, nine years about. And when we first met, there was something I noticed about you that reminded me a lot of myself as well, which was that I was like, if shit hits the fan, heart will find a way to survive. Cause, and I, you know, I mean it in the way of like, I don't mean it in the way of like, oh, it's zombie apocalypse. I'm gonna shoot down, you know, I mean it in the way of like, you're scrappy, you will find a way to figure it out and like, you'll make something happen out of what you do. Now, at the same time, that's a double edge sword because I've also watched you as your buddy. Try a lot of things that you haven't followed through to the end with. And some you have and those passions of blossom for life, but you were, you're also always willing to try something. Now in that same vein, watching you on Dutton Ranch and watching you like you are now and the way you just look fulfilled and you feel fulfilled to me and the way that reminds me of the things I always liked about you. So to me, I look at that and I go like, that's awesome. That's how it should be. And so in that regard, like I agree with you. Yeah, I see it on you as well as always going to finish here. You know, you were always going to get on top. Yeah, and you know, there were things and, you know, I'm open about this thing as well. I've talked with a bunch of people about it. Some people, I'm not a doctor and some people, this is, I'm not knocking this thing for everyone. I'm not telling people what they shouldn't, shouldn't do. For me, there was a period of a few, probably three years, four years in L.A. where like, I was taking a lot of Adderall and that messed with my personality a lot prescribed or not. Yeah, yeah. But still, it was just I was taking away too much. And I just, you know, someone else that was close to me started taking it and then I saw how they change. So the lights turned off a little. Yeah. And I go, oh, no, does that happen to me? Because I haven't looked inward through this process because that thing has made me want to go, go, go, go, go. By the way, the Adderall kind of keeps you from looking inward. It does, that's what I'm saying. Literally. Yeah, exactly. So it's just, it's just, you know, how are we doing? Keep it moving, just going and going and going. And when I cut that, like two years ago, maybe three now, three years ago, I just stopped cold turkey and just quit. And then I will say that, you know, the Adderall made you so hot. Like that's the thing. Just think, I need to wait this curcub. I need to be gorgeous in the duel. Sure. Because it's, you know, you look like a bird. Oh, nice. Get it. Yeah. You're like, go back to Arkansas. You're really hot on that. That's all I'm going to say. I'm going to leave it. That's it. That's an Arkansas thing. Yeah, it's like, that's that's how the, you know, a lot of them are bread. It was, it always was going to end. It was. That's where it's always going. Arkansas. I just, I took on this thing where I was like, well, if I can't focus on something, because that was why I started taking it. I was like, if there's something that I'm trying to focus on and I can't focus on it, then maybe it doesn't, maybe this isn't something worth holding my attention. And I should move on to something else that holds it. Yeah. And now the things that do hold it, I'm obsessed with. Yeah. And I'm not taking anything. Exactly. And so for me, I'm not saying that's everyone. I'm not trying to be, you know, I'm not trying to shame anyone that does it. Because I know a lot of people do it. I have friends that do it. You're also in a different sector than, like you said, you're not a doctor. So it's like, I'm not. You don't have to focus on one thing. You get to choose where your passions are. And for me, it's like, I already, when I get in the motion of doing something, I don't think about food. Really? It's not on my mind. I love eating. But when I get going, I'm not thinking. I don't eat while I work. Yeah. It's like, you're just, you're in this flow that I just, I'm like, I'll start thinking like, I got it. I got to just put something in to keep you know. Yeah. But when I was doing that, when I was taking that role, there would, there would be days. I would eat. Yeah. Two days would go by and be like, Oh, shit. I haven't really had anything. It wasn't prescribed to you for ADHD or what? Yeah. So, yeah. The funny thing is we're the, we're the ADHD generation, right? Yeah. Because I remember when I was, when I was in elementary school, I remember we had like a doctor show up to the school and he sat down with all the parents and he like, you know, he would make a mark and be like, these students have ADHD and these, these don't, right? And I was one of the students that had ADHD. What? I'm slow. But, that's if I did. But at this point in time, they were trying to push riddling really hard. Yes. Right? And riddling, my cousin took that. Yeah. And half of the kids I knew in elementary school were overnight in the period of a week, suddenly on riddling. Zombies. And what happened was-- As a child. Yeah. And what the angle was and I remember hearing the doctor talk to my mother about it at this time, which was things like, is your son Ram Bunchis? Yeah. She was like, yeah. Talk a lot. Does he talk? Does he like to play? Yeah. And you go. Yeah. He runs around. Yeah. So you're telling me he runs a lot. Yeah. Yeah. He's an old boy. Yeah. And they're like, well, look, I think he's got ADHD. All the things that he was saying were just things that a natural nine-year-old boy does. Now, sure, I get scatterbrained. But at this point in time, to hear it from like a medical perspective, it seems suspicious to my mom. And I'll give her credit where credits do. I'm not going to give her credit in a lot of ways, but credit where credits do. She was immediately suspicious of this guy. And could you imagine, though, the first week, if you had a kid like you, you put him on riddling? Yeah. It's like a vacation. It's like, oh, god. Oh, my God. Why? You're relaxing. You're like, I can watch my shit. I don't understand my stories. Get out. Get out. I'm going to catch him on this. He said to me. Oh. Kids in the back. Please. Please. My mom. My mom. My mom. Please. Please. To tell you how I got to LA, which is my favorite. I went to, so my mom's grandmother. Okay. No. Great grandma. No. Let me restart this. You're great. You're great. It's wrong. That was me. Let me get this. Listen, let me get this accurate. I'm not going to let you get this accurate. Let me get this accurate. Why is she just one more out of it? I. I. I. I. I. - I'm gonna be like, he needs it. - He needs it, he needs it. - I'll sleep and do it. (laughing) - You have three dumbest guys we ever heard talk. - Okay, my mom's mom. - Yeah. - Okay, my grandma. (laughing) - That's what we're talking about. - I'm clarifying which grandma's. - There's two grandma's. - Oh yeah, excuse me. - Yeah. - Me, mom? - Me, mom. - Yes, me, mom. - I can't be true. - That's where. - It's actually me. - Yes. - Come on, man. - Yes. - You guys are so low-hanging, fruit and sick. - No. - I love it, man. - It's nice. - I love grandma and me, mom. - Grandma and me, mom. - Super tight. - My mom's, mom went to this school in Nashville called Belmont, which was at the time in the 40s when she went there, it was an all-girls school. - Sick. - And so I was like, that's where I'm going. - Yeah, yeah, I'm going. - So, I'm looking for my alma mater. - We went and visited. So the man she married, her, his cousin was, huh? - Your grandpa? - My grandpa. (laughing) - You're gonna snap, you're gonna snap. - I mean, I'm just, I'm over-communicating, sorry. (laughing) She married a man whose cousin was Roy Acuff who was the king of country in the 50s. So my family was big on country music growing up. They were like, they would sit around and play country music and sing. They weren't ever like, you know, really traveling musicians, but they played a lot of music. So, Belmont went from becoming just an all-girls school to a music school. At some point. And so I went and visited, fell in love with the campus, thought it was amazing. And I went there for music, because I had a band in high school and I wanted to go and do that. - And you're very talented music. - Thank you. But when I got there, it was like, Belmont was amazing, but Nashville itself around like 2012, was like very, full-key, like Mumford and Son. - Yeah, stomping music. - Stop, like, country thing. - Yeah, exactly. - Which wasn't my thing. - It was more of an outlaw country. - Lil Whalen Jennings. - And where it's at now? Yes, then or like, where it's at now too? His come back to a really cool place. Like, like, Coulter Wall and Tyler Childers. Like, I love what those guys are doing. Like, that's, that's amazing. But around that time I was like, I was hitting a lot of, it just wasn't, you know, I wasn't there at the right time. - No, that would have bummed me out, too. - Yeah, I was like, that's what made the wind, can I (beep) in here? - I think we've been with 27 years. - Yeah, why is there an actual way? - I was just able to. - Chantin' like, (beep) it was like, dude, that just wasn't my, you know, and I'm not knocking those guys, but like, it just wasn't my divide, you know? And so, I let, I knew somebody that was from LA. They were like, hey, I'm gonna go out there on spring break if you guys, big group of you wanna come. So I went out there to LA, sorry. - First time in California. - First time. - And I just fell in love. - Yeah, I get it, it looked different as hell, I'm sure. - Dude, it was just like, and it was one of those days where you get there and it's like 75. There's like a little bit of a breeze, But it's sunny out, and it's like, I love how weather. Yeah, he's a list.
It was like, it was when Nashville was like around spring break and Nashville was still cold. So when I went there, I was like, "Oh, this is, I'm gonna move you in like the day." - You should have gone back, yeah. - So I went back, moved my stuff back to Arkansas, and then I saved up a little bit of money working in two places. One was like a plant outlet. Like I was like-- - Like traveling things, yeah. - I was like planting out in a field. - Ha, guy job, buddy. - That's a hot guy job. - Just roll up the sleeves. - That's a shit job, like a guy's trying to get-- - Yeah, that guy was like, "I'm looking to flower shop." - You're trying to get a blade. Like, come on, bro, let's be real. - Well, there was a sector of that that did-- - I did deliver some, you know? - But then I was carrying bags of soil. - Like, oh my god. - I have to wear this outfit, sorry. No shirt for me today. - That was, it was, and then I was building fences. - Okay, sure, okay. - You want the more seats? - Yeah, I feel like this is for the worst use. For stepmothers. (laughing) (upbeat music) - So you built some fences, - Plants and plants, - Plants and plants. - Some of that money and move on to LA. - Well, start dating a girl who I was just obsessed with. And it was delaying my moving to LA, 'cause I just, little by little, was just like very comfortable. - So you were dating someone in Arkansas? - In Arkansas, back in Arkansas. The night, you know, it had been, you know, it was time to go back to Belmont. I didn't go back. I stayed there. I was seeing some, like, dating someone. And she broke my heart. And then the next day I moved to LA. Just as like a-- - You need that. - I did not tell you. - I need that. - I did need that. I needed that. Broke my heart, moved to LA next day. I only knew one person. - So you got a job as a pool boy in LA. - Yeah, no, so, no, so in LA. - Yeah. - In LA. - I, when I first moved, I got a job at the Los Angeles Country Club, like the, yeah, working out just on the, like, the, in the field, on the greens. And then I worked my way up to, like, busing in the restaurant. And then I was, like, about to be a server and got suspended. - For what? - I was in a time where it was slow. And there were things that I could have been doing, like, around the kitchen or something. I was reading an acting book around the corner of the building. - It was probably a very common problem in LA, C-C. (laughing) - I was like, "Catty reading an acting book." - I would say so. And so they had suspended me. And then I came back and they, they also, so my hair looks, it looked like that, the point break poster at that, like, like, longer than it is right now, but it looked like that on the jolly. - That's who's born to. - But they wanted it to look like, he honest. They wanted it to be slipped out of my, you know? And I just was like, I don't, like, what do you, like, you know? What do you want? And he goes, all right, come here, let me show you. And so he takes me into the, like, the locker room and he just puts a pound of gel on my hair and just, like, does it, like, insane. And I was like, this is crazy. Like, I look like a psycho. And he was like, no, you need to do this because your hair looks like a bird's nest. Like, when it's like that. - That sounds like my grandma. - And so I'm like, whatever. I wear it like that for, like, two hours. And then on my break, I go and I just mess it all up because it feels weird. - It feels weird, it's driving me crazy. - And I'm working there after I mess my hair up, I leave the break room. And I see Justin Timberlake's walking across, like, the, this path. And I'm like, if I, he was regular walking, but smooth. - Oh, shit. - He's walking, gliding. - He's really gliding. - He's gliding. - He's going over there and he's what, he's like, kind of had to go to the club's house. And in my mind, I'm like, if I can get over there until I do music, he'll sign me as an artist. - Of course he will. - He'll take me in an hour. - I'll quit here today. - I have a guy in a country club. - It's going to work. You know, it's going to work. - You got fired at me. - Well, I'm walking over there and you know the guy, my manager had said my hair looks like a bird's nest. Like, verbatim, he had said that. And as I'm walking to him, this bird swoops down and just starts attacking the top of my head. Like, hard. - No way. - The mud is coming. I'm like, I'm going like this. - I'm going like this. - As I'm going to say, hey, to Justin Timberlake, does he look over? - Oh, yeah, he's like, he's freaked out. He just like keeps going into the thing. - Hey man, you got a little. - Hey dude, guy over there. - Your hair looks like a nurse, you know? And then like, dude, my hair's all like crazy. There's blood coming and I'm like, I look over and the manager's just like. - Come on man. - Come on man. - So that was my second ride up. And then I got suspended. - You can't get written up for being attacked by a bird. - Well, he said it was because I wouldn't wear the gel. - It's because he took this hair off. - I didn't look like he was vindicated without a doubt. - Oh dude, I would have told him. - He looks like a bird now with him. - And then a bird attacked him. - Yeah, it's like, yeah, I would have told everybody. - I just didn't go back. - No, no, no, third right up. - No, I didn't, I didn't go back. I was like maybe. - No way, when you get attacked by a bird, I feel like that's kind of it. - Seemed like it was-- - You start playing at bars or what's the next step there? - So the girl I met when I moved to LA, she was from, well the one I knew, the only one person I knew, she's from Arkansas. And she let me crash on her couch for, you know, two years. And she was a model. And she was like, you should go in. - Come on. - That's how she got out of Arkansas. She was on America's next stop model. They found her. - Oh, sweet. - And got it. - Yeah. - Come on. - So I lit, and she had a great network of friends that I did. - She sure did. (laughing) - She did that. - She was a model student. - The best. - The best. - They were great. And so it plugged me into a community quick. - You know? - No. - You said you're making this too easy. - I'm networking. (laughing) - You're my friend. (laughing) - She was very generous with like, you have to meet this person, you have to meet this person. No, seriously, seriously. Like beyond just models, like it was like, she was like really good at like facilitating me with like relationship. - No, seriously. - Because she knew she's lame. (laughing) - Oh my God. You're insane. (laughing) - I'm sorry. - I'm sorry. - I'm sorry, continue. - She was great. She connected me with a lot of like really like, things that set me up for the long haul. Because she was like, you are broke right now. You have no money. You need to go into one of these modeling places and just see if like they'll sign you and make some cash on the, just doing some stuff. You know, you go into these castings and you do all this stuff but I'm just trying to get some cash to like pay rent. - It's like five, yeah. But I looked, you know, I didn't, when I moved out here, I looked like I was from Arkansas. Like I didn't, you know, and some of the agencies were like, here we need to do some of this, we need to do some of that. Like, you know, I was, there was some guidance needed and they started sending me on these castings to meet with different people. And I hadn't booked anything acting yet. I didn't even have representation yet for acting. But the modeling agency I signed with had an acting side. And so when I signed with them, I was like, I really want to act. Can I go and meet? Like I grew up doing theater. Is there a way that they could just give me, you know, send me on some auditions? And I am so green and so new when I like, come here. But the manager that they put me with was so good and I loved her so much and she started sending me, sent me up on these amazing generals. But I didn't know who anyone was. And I probably could have served to be educated a little bit on like some of the people I was like meeting with. So like sitting down with people you should have known? Yes, I met with Sophia Coppola and Redwood. Oh, Jesus Christ. Or for little mermaid. She was making a little mermaid. I had no clue who she was. No, just like. Which is insane. By the way, I would argue we are. The dad's the big, I can't be like, but she was in the godfather three. I've got to argue that that might put a lot of people at ease too. Right, I mean out, yeah. For sure, maybe. I think-- Unless you're like, I've never seen a movie before. I think it's-- My hair's a bird's neck. No, I think it's nice to know the tone of their work. Yeah, because you, you know, there's definitely something there where it's like, you can be very off because that's not how they make their movies, you know? And so it could have served me to know some of those things. But I just didn't know what I didn't know. In Arkansas, we grew up with the TV in the house was basically just for the news. Like, there wasn't. And it was like a small little TV for, you know, in the kitchen or something. I wasn't. And my parents took me to the movies a lot. But if it wasn't a blockbuster, I didn't see it growing up. So the news. And analytically, it was for Disney Channel. I mean, frankly, there was a lot of it. Oh, I understand it was. Absolutely. Absolutely it was. And so I got very educated on Disney Channel. But I didn't have-- I come out here and I have no understanding of cinema, you know? And like, well, hold on. You already saw a great actor. Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, that's enough of that. [MUSIC PLAYING] Well, before I get anything, we'll talk about Hot Topic. Yeah, come on, let's hear about that. What would you say? God's gift to the group chat. Yes, it's my favorite thing. And by the way, this isn't like a heart's not secretive about Hot Topic. In the first hour that we were hanging out he goes, you want to see some hilarious? And I'm like, yes, please. This is right after the night. Which is your first big job, too? $750. Not the hell, yeah. That's a nice one. What you got to type in is heart-denton Hot Topic Joker. Yes, it's not hard to find. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a bit haunting. Yeah, yeah.
- Yeah, isn't it? - 750 bucks before it had any acting credits. But hey, - How'd you get there? - 750 bucks was, I took the bus. - You took the bus, yeah. - Just walked in. - Yep. - I mean, it, to me, is truly a gift. When you showed me that, I immediately knew I loved you forever. - Yes. - I mean, it was so hard. - Yeah. - Oh, I know. We've used that whole thing. - There's a whole series, yeah. - Yeah. - It's all my favorite thing in the world. - And I knew, I knew, like, in the dressing room, like, when I'm, you know, getting ready for it. And I just, you know, I got a fistful of makeup. I just was just, like, (laughing) - I just knew. I knew that this thing. - It's a cowboy camp. - It could be anything more different. - Bro, you got into the mind space. - Thank God, you know. - And it wasn't, I think I booked Riverdale, like, very soon after that. - Do you think Riverdale is the first Riverdale? - Probably, 'cause, you know, the character is so like, you're like, oh, he's gonna be perfect. - This guy's his biggest brother. (laughing) (upbeat music) - You know, I saw this acting coach when I first moved L.A. that gave me advice that was, like, horrible for me for years. And I walk into it. Somebody was like, you gotta go see this guy. And he was, it cost me like 300 bucks to go in, like, see him or something. And that was all the money I had at that time. And I walk in, and he's got all these quotes from, like, these massive actors. - Yeah, yeah. - That are like, this is the guy. - This is the guy. - He's no one he says, you know? It's like, this guy, what he says is Bible. And so, I go in there and he's like, you know, we're like, we meet in Venice. He has this, like, beach house. And he's like, hey, look, loosen up. Forget the sides. It's not about that. And I was like, okay. And he was like, it's never about those words. Don't even memorize them. And I was like, I was like, okay, yeah. So, like, all right. - So, then I feel like the next 50 auditions I did, I was like, I knew them. - Like, what if I just do mountain thing? And shockingly, it didn't work out, you know? It's like, they were always like, I don't think that's sabotage. - I know it's the character at all, you know? - This guy called his own agent was like, okay, what's hard going on next? 'Cause I want to be there right after them. I feel like it's some weird thing that when I left, he was like, I just wanted to see that guy fail. Like, I never want that guy. - It's a little jealous of you. - I don't know, I don't know what it was. Or maybe there's like, maybe someone who has so much technical education on acting, that they need to hear that thing of like, get away from the sides and be more of yourself. - Well, you're coming for more of like, a natural beginning. - I needed some technique. - You needed to be like, yes. Like, read the script every time and like, know the character, then. Like, you need to be able to know what that character would say in any given situation in life. - I have a, I don't know if it's a resentment or if it's, you call it whatever you want. I'll tell the story, but I think it's a resentment for acting coaches. And it's just personal. I think acting coaching is great. I think a lot of people get benefit from it. - Benefit from it. - A lot of people do. I remember when I was younger and we were on this sweet life, we had like a kind of a sub in acting coach once come in. And in the beginning of sweet life, we did have acting coaches throughout like, I wanna say at first two, three years maybe even. And I remember it was like my first time doing a scene, it was a comedy scene where my character was written really well in this episode. And at 13, 14, I remember being like, I think I can do something really funny here. And I kind of like tried something. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna do something. I made a choice and it was received really well. And I remember being very proud of myself. Now at that point in time, acting on my own really wasn't a thing before the sweet life. So like, when I were always the same role, doing the same thing together, but remember trying something and people loving it. And I was like, oh, I get it now. I kind of get what the acting thing is. And then I remember flash forward like a month and a half and the sub in acting coach who had been there for that episode who had helped me through that episode, took credit for it in like this article that he had kind of written. And like, and I remember being so-- - Yeah, the f***ing mad. I remember being like, dude, at 14, I was like, no, wait a second. That was my thing. - First big choice of your life. - First big choice. I was like, oh, joke lands. - A joke lands. - I bet I'm that joke. - Exactly. - A long life land of that ever since then. I've been like, nah, can't do it. Not for me. Like it's pure rage, like pure rage. I probably need one honestly, but I was like, pure rage-induced like foot in line in the sand, no acting coach for the rest of my life. After that point, and I was like, I can't do it. Maybe so mad. So I don't know. I feel like there's-- - Yeah, it's like summer, like I did theater in high school and my theater teacher-- - Theater. - Theater? - Theater. - He's a very fancy guy. - He didn't say theater. You said it. - He just said it. - What's theater? - Theater. - Yeah, theater. - We're saying the same thing. - You're using theater. - You're not listening. - Listen to him for a second. - Theater. - Oh, he switched it. - Were you trying to (beep) trick me too? - What? - All right, I like this. This is like you guys are pranking me. - Anyways. - He was really great. Like he was such a good, he, you know, I learned a lot from his, just things that he taught me that have stuck with me. That I've worked with a couple of, you know, coaches. I worked with one recently that I really liked. She was amazing, but like it's, I think they're all different. There's some that I'm like, you know, I don't love as much. I got, I've coached a few tapes recently and she's great, but, you know, I think the best thing sometimes is just to get some different perspective with some stuff. - Yeah. - But there's some roles that I'm like, like I didn't coach for Don Ranch, 'cause like I know this guy. - Oh yeah. - It's like I don't need to, yeah. - I had, to your point, I've had like a, I guess you would almost call it a weirdly hard realization at this point in my life, where the roles that I've been most well received for me are the ones obviously that seemed the most effortless for me to step into, right? Which is, for years I was like, I really want to diversify my, you know, my acting portfolio and try to go deep second. I think I've been successful in some. Others I think I've been okay, right? But the ones that I've just been the most like, you know what, I'm getting along with everybody. I feel like this is really true to myself. The things that we most me that an acting coach can't help you with have been the things that have been received the best and I get cast and hired for all the time. - Well, you're good at them, right? - That's what you're born to play them. - You're born to play them. - But it hasn't turned away. - Exactly, that's an actor. There's an impulse inside you that always goes, okay, but I want to break out from that. I want to do something a little different. I want to stretch the wings, right? But you can't get away from that part of yourself. - Never really. It's just about being able to find the level at which you can kind of diverge off of that and really spread your wings without losing it. - Yeah, and I started in a way too, where it's like you look at things like Riverdale or you look at some of these other things I had done and they were very far away from me. So it was like to start that way, I was looking forward to doing something that I could just naturally live in and be in like a done. - Or I was like, it would be so fun to do something that it is. - It would look like a live wire, so close to mine. - You were getting a lot of scary, pensive roles. - Yeah, it's just nice to be able to do something now that's like, it isn't such a scary guy, it's like, I mean, there's elements to it. He's, you know, it's just nice to like. - No, it's a whole cheat piece. - She put on some muscle. - Yeah, put on some muscle. - Part, I want to say, I'm very proud of you. I love you. - I think this is like we were saying before, I think this is the truest form of yourself as an actor have felt you, you know, very long time. You feel fulfilled, you look fulfilled. You can finally drink beer, which is nice. - It's just cheers. - And I'm proud of you and. - Did I kind of look like Ed Harrison? - What do you want? - I can't think how to say nice to Dylan and Ed Harrison. - I like your jeans, boy. - Yeah. - Is that what he said? - That's what he sounds like. - Yeah, but why did he never say that? - That's why. - 'Cause that's how I feel. - What? - Half me, half him. - Okay, got it, got it. - I like your jeans, 'cause as we said, he doesn't wear underwear. - Yeah, he's a commandeer. - Yeah, I don't wear it. - Are you a commandeer? Have you grown into underwear? - No, no, no, no. Definitely a commandeer. - You feel in the denim? - A hundred percent. - I don't like hate, it bunches and it's all, no. - It's good to know. - What about the chipper on your bowl here? - I don't know, it's the range below my zipper. - Dude, there's one strangle or something. - Oh, man, dude, okay, sorry. Mr. Cowboy. - No, no, no, no, no. - Oh. - All right, get the (beep) out of here. - All right, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. (clapping) - My dad did zip up his pants. - Oh, okay, all right. (laughing) (upbeat music) - Perfect. - I love hard men. - I love hard men. - I love hard men. - I love hard men. - I love hard men. - First, I love hard men. - I'm happy, I'm happy for him. - Oh, okay. - But for me, I just go, that's like the perfect environment for him. - Oh, yeah, you got to go to Cowboy Camp? - Dude, cool. - Let's hell. - I want to go to Cowboy Camp. - I know you would. - You want to go to do ranch camp. (laughing) - I want to go to do ranch. - Yeah, you just want to go to do ranch. - You just want to do anything, I would. Like a lazy river with a bunch of Cowboys. (laughing) - Just who? - Do a loan start, nothing weird. We're just hanging out, swimming with loan stars. - I feel more weird now that you said,
- Nothing weird. - Nothing weird is gonna happen. Except-- - I just wanna be, I just wanna be in a lazy river. - I wouldn't say quit that, be though. - I would be pretty-- - A lazy river. Have you been in, what's the longest lazy river you've ever been in? - First off, we're talking to a guy who loves a lazy man. - You're just a lazy man. - That is it. I get to, you're telling me I get to float in water weightless down a river that's just pushing you around and seeing sights. - Have you been to one with a bar inside? - No. - Really? - Where was that? - You never? - No. - Oh, there was one, there's one in Hawaii. Nobody in Nikki Roman's wedding. And there was a lazy river nearby and it would go around and then down somehow, it, it, it, the fight physics. And you'd go and then you'd get a my tie here, you'd go around and then you'd go up a bucket and the bucket would lift you up, go back here, go back around, drop off empty glass, grab another my tie, go back around again. You could stay in there all day. Did not have to leave for the bathroom, which is I didn't see a lot of people leaving. And I'm like, I know what's going on here. - Wait, there's not like an off branch of the river, you can get to a bathroom? - You could, but no one was going to the bathroom, which leads me to believe there was some, what about poop? - Yeah, I don't know if you'd stop. (laughing) - It's not what I'm talking about. - I'm talking about number one. - I'm talking about a lazy river, but it's very long. It's very fun, yeah. - Yeah, because in a normal river, the fish would just get it. - The fish, yeah, you're, okay, enough poop talk to me. I'm done, it's my birthday. - Beaking of birthdays. - Yeah. - I thought it was almost grandpa's birthday soon, which apparently you told me it's not. The reason I'm confused is because your dog, grandpa, is ancient. - Very old guy. - How did you, this episode, by the way, is sponsored by Sundays for dogs, but I feel like on that note, why don't you talk a little bit about how you got grandpa, 'cause it's one of my favorite stories. - It's a great story. And so I was a junior at NYU, and I, you know, having some fun, going to college. We were just like, I had an apartment, and it was kind of the party house. We'd always come over drink brusquies, hang out, play a little halo, and then, like, you know, we're thinking about getting a dog, me and the boys, and we're like, you know what, we can't really take care of a dog, we're in college. We're living the best years of our lives. They weren't, by the way. (laughing) But my sister, Violet, was coming to freshman year at NYU, and she lived in the dorms down the block, and she had a friend who was like, oh my God, me and my boyfriend are gonna be freshmen, but he's gonna get an apartment off campus, and we're gonna live there. And she's like, all right, cool. And so she's like, oh, we're gonna buy a little French Bulldog. And at this point, I didn't know what a French Bulldog was. Like, did you ever hear of him before, like, 2014? - I had a French Bulldog grown up. - A French Bulldog? - Yeah, a French. - I thought you were in English. - Oh, you had a French too? - Yeah. - Oh, it was a weird looking one. What was the same? - Curry. - I liked curry. - Yeah, I got to meet Curry at the end of this. - Yeah, you know, she was a sweet guy. - Sorry, Curry. But, yeah, so Violet's friend buys a dog with her boyfriend, freshman. She's 18 or something. - It's the dumbest time to buy a dog. - Yeah, obviously. And so she comes over to my apartment and she goes, okay, I'm still in the dorms. We don't have an apartment yet. Can you watch this dog for, you know, two or three days? So I'm like, sure. So I take this thing and I'm like, what is this? - God bless. - It's like this, blah. And it's like, Grandpa was like this big. I'll put some puppy photos here. And then he was like, he was like lazy. And I was like, this is not a dog. It's like a, like, a do-drop. - You know, so cute. You're so cute, though. So I was like, okay, I'll just like, I shouldn't bond with this guy 'cause I'm gonna have him for two days. So I'm like, okay, Grandpa. And she gave me a cage and some pee pads. And my bedroom was here and I, you know, got into bed and I put Grandpa in his little cage with a pee pad. And he was like the size of a potato. And he's like walking around. - So cute. - And then in the middle of the night, he just starts to turn, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, looking at me with his big, old ears, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, oh, damn it. I'm like, oh, I go to sleep, dog. And then he's like, blah, blah, blah. And I threw my shoe right in. (laughing) No, but he kept crying and I'm a softy. So I walked over, I picked him up and he was so cute. I'm like, I shouldn't do this. Put him in the bed with me. But I remember that night, I couldn't fall asleep because I was like, what if I roll over and smash him? You know? - Yeah. - And so he, I put him in the bed and I'm like laying down. I'm a stomach sleeper tonight. I was on my back because I was scared to roll over on him. And he ran over and he just came here and just fell asleep on my shoulder. And he was this big. He was so cute, he snore as a, I'm like, whoa, man. And so then like two days go by and I'm like, oh, no, I'm gonna have to say bye to Gramps. Now the cage has never been used again. - Yeah. - Well, yeah. - I'm walking out to the park. Probably not allowed at that point, but we were geese eating like things I found in the bodega. It's just like I lived above a bodega. - You got all of it. - So 40s and like little like chunks of food. It was awful. And I was like, he didn't even like it. And then like a week goes by. And then two weeks go by, I have grandpa. And like three weeks go by. And then, you know, this guy comes in my house in tears. And I go, who are you? He goes, oh, Gramps is dead. I go, what? He goes, he goes, yeah, we broke up. And I go, what? And he goes, yeah, I'm going back. I'm going back home, man. I just want to say goodbye to Gramps. I'm like, what? (laughing) - I can't give him. - You never went for the pet store to buy a apartment. So this guy leaves and I'm like, Violet, what's going on? And they're like, oh, she broke up. You know, the relationship didn't work out shocker, 18 years old, but then Violet's like, you know what? Just hold on, we're going to figure out what to do with Gramps is keep him. So now it's been like a month and a half. This guy's sleeping in my bed. - It's possible. - It lifts my face, yeah. And then I get a call and I'm like, okay, we think we're going to sell him on Craigslist. Can you like sense some photos of grandpa over? So we can put him on Craigslist. I'm like, no. So then I kidnapped the dog. And I said, no, I'm not giving this dog back. I'm like, I fully fell in love with Gramps. You didn't kidnap Grandpa. Grandpa was yours from the moment. He started getting money for him. - Good. - I know. But then grandpa grew up junior year. Jesus, he would eat beer cans. He would, I'd walk out in the morning and just be chewing on beer cans. And then senior year. And then I brought him home and my mom was like, what is this thing you brought home? 'Cause we always said West Island Terriers. And so we bring him home and my mom looks at him. She's like, this is the weirdest looking dog. And my dad goes, you keep walking to me and placing him in my arms. He goes, I'm not going to like it. A week goes by. Thier sleeper with Grandpa in the bin. - Of course. - Two weeks go by. I'm graduating college and they buy a French bulldog. - So just say, by the way, you are full on a Frenchy family. - Now we are a Frenchy. We just got a new one, Carlito. - Carlito. - He's so cute. He's a little fat Frenchy. And we now, we turned him on to Sundays for the dogs. - Which is helped as gut immensely. - Grandpa doesn't. - I should everywhere. - I also have a Frenchy, I'm a Frenchy family. - We're just a Frenchy. - We're just Frenchy squatted up dude. Most popular dog breed in America now. - Really? - Over the golden retriever or the Labrador retriever. - It is now the number one. - Who started it? - The be man. - The be man. Well, the demon actually did because I had a Frenchy before you. But it's okay. The, I will say Barbara had this similar reaction when she first came out. And I was, I've always been a bulldog guy, right? So like English bulldogs, French bulldogs. Is there a chance it came from Sandler? - It did come from Sandler. - Oh did, okay, 'cause I was gonna desire to walk his dog on pixels and keel or motsable. - Meatball. - Meatball. - Yeah, yeah, meatball and motsable. He had meatball and motsable. - That's a past, I think. - I think meatball? - I think meatball? - I guess too, Sandler. - Well, they don't, no. - English don't live very long. But they're just the best little babies. But I'm a big daddy, you probably with them. - I was. I remember being with meatball, I think, was the older one actually. And when Barbara and I started dating, I was like, I started sending her puppy stuff of bulldogs. And she would go, I don't want an animal like that. That's like the grossest little creature I've ever seen. 'Cause on paper, if you're just talking about like, bulldogs are the embodiments of farts. - Yeah. - Just like they're, it's not like, I always think it's weird. - Totally, just like a fat little thing that rolls around and snores. And it's like a vacuum in your room that's on all the time. And like, I always think it's weird now when I see people who are like, this is my canine. - Yeah. - And they have like a husky, like an artisanal husky. Where you look at it and you go like, okay, so you're a weird person because you want a hot dog. Like I'm like, you're weird. No, I want like a goblin in the room that you can feed them in. - They hear the cut. - And they're like, they snore and they love you to death. And Brittany, my fiance, had her sister over last week. Sydney. Sydney and Brent took the bed downstairs. I was on the couch upstairs playing view games all night long. But they both were on masks to bed, right? So they go to sleep and Sydney wakes up the next day and she goes, Brent, I gotta tell you, you really have to go to the doctor. Brittany's like, why? She's like, this snoring's not normal. And Sabrina's, no, no, that was grandpa. It's like grandpa was in the middle of the bed. Sydney, I said that Brittany just started snoring like, oh. (laughs) That was grandpa. - I've had a bulldog in my life so long now that it's actually like a white noise machine. Like I am that peace-fearing, snoring animal in the room. And I think this is my theory. 10 years time, noise machines will have snoring pet. - Oh, if they don't already, yeah. - I know. - I know. - I think it's gonna be a thing. And I just, when piggy snores or funny enough, I have an awesome cat, too. And he weirdly snores. - Cloud snores, yeah. - He doesn't know how to purr some snorts and snorts. - Maybe because he learned it from the little pig. - Maybe did, maybe did. - Oh, this is perfect. - I gotta alert on my ring camera. - This is the cutest thing I ever seen. - That said, a pig is sniffing around on the driveway. - But it's just about my dog. (laughs) - And I go, that's amazing. - When I turn off my, well, I mean like a system. Grandpas is usually up here. And then when I turn off my kindle of bed, I close it. Go to the bathroom.
come back, always have to pee, you know, just a kiss. And then get back in bed, and then I lay on my stomach, he goes between my legs, he starts snoring, and then I fall asleep, it's perfect. - It's perfect. - I just locked down, dude. - It's perfect, I am a firm believer that if you don't like bulldogs, you just don't like them yet. - Yeah, yeah, totally. - Everybody I know has eventually warmed up, Barbara warmed up eventually, and when she saw Piggy, our little friendship has a puppy for the first time. It was like seen-- - Piggy's a long-haired friendship, too. - Dude, but it looks like a baby friendship looks like Gizmo from the brand-new. - Yeah, it does, truly. - So when you look at it, you're like, oh my god, why do I think this thing is so cute? - My dad goes, I've never seen a French bulldog before, but he says the same thing, there's just Gizmo. - It's always Gizmo. - How are you Mandel? Did the voice of Gizmo? - Did he really? - Yeah, no way. - He's shocking. - Yeah, a little fun fact. - Well, that was a great time. I think I'm gonna go ride a horse to my nearest bar. - Yeah. - Should we check in? - No. - Yeah, beer from my horses, whiskey for a man, and beer from my horses, chip.
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