Harry Styles + Zoë Kravitz, Instagram Q&A, Deux/U Hotline

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Yeah let's just get right into it. I feel like we have a lot to cover as far as voicemails and what not. I have a couple of updates for you guys last week on the podcast I had said based on a message I received about Taylor Swift being at Yellowstone in Montana regarding phone usage and I was specifically referring to the restaurants but a lot of people wrote in I think I had said that someone wrote it and said they take your phones away and I said I don't know if that's true or if they put a sticker over the camera because they do do that at some private clubs a lot of people wrote in who go to Yellowstone, frequent Yellowstone and said they do not take your phones away that it's just like an unspoken rule sort of that if there are celebrities in the vicinity or in the restaurant or skiing at the same time as you you don't approach them unless they approach you I think one person said that that might actually be a rule if I'm assuming if a celebrity complains you could get your membership revoked they don't take your phones away it's just like known that you don't take pictures or video although I will say somebody messaged me last week and said they were at Yellowstone and they have pictures of Taylor skiing so I think I mentioned that so I'm sure people do take pictures I just don't think they've ever been widely circulated and I certainly have never received pictures so I just wanted to make that clarification because I had a lot of people write in who do I guess ski or have houses there or go there wanting me to clarify that so that's one thing the next thing I want to talk about is Harry Styles and Zoe Kravitz I don't know you guys I'm becoming more convinced that there is a possibility that they're engaged I know that's such a big statement but last week in the Q&A I very flippantly posted somebody's comment about it about them hearing that they were engaged I did follow up with this person and this person did explain to me where they had heard that information I had somebody else come forward corroborating the same story the same information neither of these people were Harry's or Larry's or you know people that I would think would be outright lying one possibility I do think is that this could be if it's not true part of me believes it could be true if it's not true I'm thinking that it could be like the Mandela effect is that what it's called Hannah you know when everyone thinks something is true but it's not something from the past like stove top stuffing yeah it's the Mandela effect right so I'm thinking that this could be the Mandela effect where people like where they've heard it or swear you know that they saw it or heard it or somebody told them but it's just a rumor I don't know I don't know what to think and yes I am fully aware and I said this before that I've said in the past that Harry and Olivia Wilde were engaged and I stand by the fact that reliable people were telling me this so I don't know take that information as you will we know they're very serious why would an engagement be the next step the next couple that I want to talk about that I received a little bit of information on and I kind of was looking back through all the information we received on this couple and I felt kind of foolish because when I received the first sighting them and I'm talking about role model whose real name is Tucker Pillsbury and Dakota Johnson when I received the first sighting of them I think it was the first ever sighting I kind of blew it off and I post at the sighting I didn't have a picture and then TMZ later came through with a picture of said sighting but people were asking and I kind of said oh it sounds like they're just friends they were out with a group of friends well boy was I wrong they are in a very serious relationship somebody slid into the DM's this past week to say just that that they heard that they're very serious and they're in love and I think that the people around her and her friends feel like this this is the type of relationship that she deserves and to me that's sort of suggesting that she went through a tough time with Chris Martin which I think we kind of know just based off of their back and forth but this person echoed that sentiment as well but as I was saying I was looking back and I literally said oh I think it seems friendly between them because the sighting that came in the first sighting they were with their group of friends but I see this all the time that when we first learn about a relationship or a breakup or an engagement or a marriage or divorce it has already been many weeks in the making so that first sighting of Dakota and role model that could have been like their 20th date for all we know same with Tate McCray I've said this and Jack Hughes the first picture and sighting we received of them that was like their 7th or 8th date that wasn't their first date so you really never know the timeline of a celebrity relationship I know the fans really try to piece things together and come up with answers and think that they know and are so sure that they know you know exactly when things happen but you don't you don't you just don't only the people involved know okay I didn't do a Q&A on Instagram this week so I just threw one up now and said we'll answer the questions on the podcast I'm gonna just read through them even some of the whack-a-doodle ones that I don't answer on Instagram let's see what we got let's be honest finding supplements that actually feel clean and trustworthy can be overwhelming there are so many labels fillers and ingredients you can't even pronounce that's why I'm always excited to talk about Hannah do you know symbiotica baby symbiotica baby symbiotica is doing supplements differently with clean science-backed formulas designed for real absorption I started using symbiotica because I wanted something that felt simple but still high quality I love their pouches their gel pouches they're my favorite they actually taste really good I've had them they're good oh yeah like at first you're like like what is this gonna taste like is it gonna taste like a vitamin like am I gonna be you know sucking my lips you know like is it gonna be sour but it's like a treat when I take my gel pouches I'm like it's like dessert it's like adult vitamin gummies no it's but I think it's even better than that to be honest with you I started using symbiotica because I wanted something that felt simple but still high quality my favorites right now are the liposomal vitamin D3 I love that they work together to absorb steady non-stimulate energy and overall balance especially on busy days I also keep magnesium L3 and E on hand when I want extra support for focus and calm go to symbiotica dot com slash do you to get 20% off plus free shipping that's CYM B I O T I K A dot com slash do you for 20% off plus free shipping I'm reading through them even though this is something that I wouldn't normally address our Connor story and Francois our node actually together I have no idea you guys I don't know I really don't I was told they were just friends this was months ago I don't know as I say every time somebody asked this question Connor story has not addressed to sexuality I feel like everyone's just assuming and I don't know if that's the right thing to do I saw an article today from a huge publication talking about them dating or potentially dating and I was actually kind of surprised so short answer is I don't know I only know what I see with my eyes and that's the same thing you guys say I'm not privy to any more than what is already out there Dakota Johnson and Tucker Pillsbury what's happening I just answered that I'm serious anything new on candle Jenner no nothing new I mean last I heard she was single but that was a couple months ago how do I feel about Taylor Swift Blake lively and Justin Baldoni I mean I really don't have any feelings about it I think that people assume based on what's posted that those are my feelings but it's not it's just snippets from the unsealed texts and emails and lawsuit that I think you know the audience would find interesting it's not reflective of how I feel I don't have any feelings about it I think that it's a multifaceted situation and it should just be played out in court if that's where it goes anything on Drew Starky I mean no not since the fact that he's been hanging around I think a lot more publicly around Odessa Travis Barker and Courtney Kardashian what's the tea a lot of people have been asking about them I don't know what's being said about them on TikTok or in blind items but I haven't had anything on Travis and Courtney in years so you guys gotta tell me like what's being said and then I could tell you if I've heard that's bullshit or not needed so brave boyfriend I don't think she has one I think that she's just dating I've had several sightings of her over the past I don't know I would say like month or so two months and it seems like she's on dates is Zoe gonna be at the Grammys with Harry on Sunday I have no idea that's a really good question um does he usually make red carpet appearances with his girlfriends I'm gonna say no any details on Margot Robbie and Jacob Allordy's co-dependency on set do I think that they hooked up no I don't think that they hooked up Margot Robbie seems very in love with her husband she's always with him I think that they're just playing it up for promotion of the movie I feel like that and you guys can give me your opinions on this even Hannah I feel like that the stakes at which celebrities now have to promote their movies have risen and they have to work a lot harder in 2026 and 2025 to promote their movies than they did ten years ago look at Marty supreme Hannah what are your thoughts on that it's just harder to get me to go to a theater so you really have to get creative with promotion I will say this drama of Jacob Allordy and Margot Robbie got me to watch the trailer there you go what drama though people because they're saying that the quotes that the press is taking of interviews they've done it makes it sound sound like they're more than just co-stars she's always with her husband he was a producer on the movie I agree with you I don't think she'd shoot on her husband but there's obviously a lot of sexual tension because I mean they want you to see the movie I would like to see them have sexual relations so that might that might drive you into the theaters yeah yeah they're smart what they're doing is actually fucking smart so kudos to the publicist of that movie in my opinion but I think that I mean I'm sure the blind items are gonna come rolling out that they had something going on on set I would not believe that for a second Margot Robbie is always with her husband you may not see him but he's always there the husband I also think if they actually had an affair she wouldn't say she became co-dependent on him you mean she wouldn't be so blatant yeah like they're alluding to an affair if she actually had an affair they would be so quiet or what I mean I guess I don't I don't think they had an affair but I'm trying to think about co-stars who did have an affair who well what well I feel like this is a perfect example mr. Mrs. Smith let how how did Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt talk about each other I think that would be interesting to go back and see how they talked about each other oh they denied it but how but when they did promo for the movie did they speak like so I'm sure they spoke like so highly of one another that's just my guess I mean this would be actually a fantastic case study because whereas I don't think that anything happened between Margot Robbie and Jacob Alority I do think that sometimes that co-stars do have affairs on set and it's obvious we find out later though that's why I'm saying like let's go back and look at Angelina Jolie Brad Pitt you know my favorite saying what happens on set stays on set a lot of a-list old school couples subscribe to that I don't think people realize I haven't actually talked about it in a while but I used to talk about it all the time on the pod do you ever remember me saying that hand you do say that a lot yeah okay you mentioned in the newsletter Taylor was in Montana with her girls was Travis there as well yes I think he was there he was there with her he recorded his podcast from Yellowstone last week or the week before so he was there I don't know if he was there the whole time is Taylor and Travis still getting married yes oh my God Jesus is Bella Hadid single oh this is I don't know why this person is asking this because I've talked I talked about this in my life okay if you're if you're a sub stack subscriber you know about this from the beginning I talked about her breaking up with her boyfriend before it was announced because somebody sent me a DM this is in the newsletter also said she was single this was on January 18th her breakup was just announced yesterday I believe on January 26th so I almost knew 10 days ago and they told me she was dating somebody new and I didn't believe I didn't believe the person that they said therefore I didn't believe the breakup was true the person that they said is so unbelievable I can't even repeat it I literally can't even it's a reality person but I can't even repeat it because I think it's I think this person's mistaken I think that something got lost in translation I think they found out Bella was single maybe she is dating someone new but I don't think it's this person and I don't want to spread a stupid rumor but the whole reason why it came up in the subscriber live is because every week somebody will ask in the live what's the craziest thing you heard this week and that week it was this this DM I was like oh my god you guys like this is so crazy I don't believe it's true but can you believe this person actually thought it was true to send it in I mean in this person said to me I don't watch this show the reality show but that's what I heard and I know the person who sent it in it wasn't like a troll or somebody trying to be a dick like it just I think it was something that was misheard Jennifer Aniston and Jim Hittmatis Jim and game I had said on Instagram that I thought she would get married again now her Justin throw were not legally married they had a ceremony they were not legally married okay I so I thought maybe like why not like why wouldn't she have that type of commitment with somebody else somebody corrected me and said she will not get married again but I don't know if that means that she wouldn't do it like a la Justin throw again I don't know they seem pretty serious her and Hittmatis Jim any ideas of performances at the Grammys no you guys I didn't even know it was this Sunday until I just read this question where the person said is that we gonna be with Harry at the Grammys of Sunday I had no idea I'm not doing anything for the Grammys like Demois been popping up a different award shows we were just at Sundance which is a film festival not an award show but we're not doing anything anything with the Grammys so I had no idea it was Sunday somebody said I want to know everything about who inspired Sasha in your book okay so the book the novel a non-please is based on true events it's based on true events of how the Demois account got started and my life my the double life I led at the beginning the first two years when Demois was started and you know became a thing I also had a full-time job so I was doing both and I was really trying to keep that part of my life the Instagram and Demois parts very secret from my co-workers and my boss and a lot of my friends and family okay so things have obviously changed it's now six years in things are different I obviously just do this full-time so the novel is based on that the novel is also based on a lot of DMs that I received during the first two years a lot of store the stories in the book are inspired by these DMs Sasha who plays the main character of Cricut her boss their stylist their fashion stylist their celebrity fashion stylist Sasha is a combination of a very famous celebrity stylist DMs I received about them as well as bosses that I've had throughout my life in fashion so that's who Sasha is so basically people were sending me DMs about this very particular celebrity stylist who all you guys know I I sent them to my co-off author and I was like this is Sasha and that's who Sasha is if you haven't read a non-please I don't know people find it at the fucking dollar store if you find it at the dollar store I highly suggest you buy it because I think it's like still on Amazon but last time I looked because I needed some copies and I bought them and I think there was like seven left on Amazon I bought them all because I needed them for something so I don't even I'm sure it's still on Amazon somewhere or Kindle or whatever but I did not like properly promote this book when it came out in 2022 I would love to have the opportunity to properly promote it I would even do like private book signings and stuff people asked me about the book all the time the book was bought by Warner Brothers okay so by all accounts even though I didn't get to properly promote it it it is considered a publishing success because the IP was bought by a major movie studio and we're still working on adapting that into a show I suppose I've said this a couple episodes ago because somebody asked it was supposed to be on HBO the writer strike really fucked that up HBO I think the person who like Greenland at HBO by the time we had a script it was a different person in charge and they were like no we don't want to make your show so then it was like okay so we had a shop it to all the streamers we had a pilot the pilot was not what I imagined the pilot of this book to be and like anyone who's read the book I I would love your feedback on what you like what vibe because you do have to when you go into these meetings like compare your ideas to things that already exist right so I would go in and I would say like this is not gossip girl like this is not to be the new gossip girl so I I'm curious anyone who read the book what vibe you would see the series because the vibe that I wanted was so opposite I think of what people thought it would be which I think makes it cool when you expect something to be one way and then it turns out to be completely different okay that's enough self-promotion of a non-please okay did Mark Rufalo really get fired from Disney over a political speech that's the rumor going around Hannah do you know have you heard anything about that I have not but he has been very outspoken he has I'm not sure I did see that rumor going around but I didn't see it anywhere reputable so I'm not sure okay I'm not reading all these questions because I don't have the answers to a lot of them like I have nothing on kit Connor I've nothing from the hamnet set I have nothing on the court sorry a court of thorn and roses screened adaptation I talked about that like years ago nothing went dead Tom Cruise and Anna to armist what happened between them I mean oh and this is coming from a tom cruise and a to armist fan page I I don't know I hate to break it to you but I think the one who protests PR couples more than anyone may I think they were PR couple our Connor story and Francois our node together doing a soft launch I don't see I got this question so much you guys Katie Perry and Justin Trudeau relationship update they're still together any news about Nicole Ocklin and Jake Dunn's relationship no I've heard nothing about any of the Bridgerton people Jonathan Bailey someone's asking about I don't know what happened between Madeline Klein and her Prince he wasn't for her let's put it that way do I think role model and Dakota are together yes absolutely Chris Martin's Italian girl for this like rapid fire I kind of fucking love it so much easier for me to answer the questions like this than on Instagram Chris Martin Italian girlfriends listen I heard that rumor I posted something about it because someone sent in an anonymous DM but I don't know if that's the same Italian model that I was told about last year I mean I can't I don't know the answer to some of these is Kanye bipolar or just a lunatic or both I mean I can't answer that this is what I mean like some of these questions I can't answer well Connor and Francois be at more shows at Paris Paris fashion week you know I'm not sure Connor's story might have since he wore Saint Laurent is that way he's at Saint Laurent did he wear Saint Laurent he did to the Golden Globes he might have like some understanding with them so he might just be going to that one I'm not 100% sure our Kylie and Timothy engaged not that I know of they were just in Mexico together I don't I'm sure you guys saw the paparazzi pictures I did not post them though our John Mayer and Kat stickler still a thing I'm assuming I don't know tape McCray and Jack Hughes are still a thing Taylor and Travis wanting to update literally anything even the tiniest bit of tea I mean if you want my opinion I think that they'll get married in Yellowstone in your opinion are Harry Styles and Zoe Kravitz engage I just answer that yeah I mean yeah you guys I think they might be it might be like their understanding of being engaged you know like you have to remember that not everybody has the same idea like do I think that they're gonna have like an engagement party and she's gonna walk around flashing a big ring no I don't uh Glen Powell and Michelle Randolph any sightings it's like they disappeared after the Golden Globes no sightings but is he filming something maybe that's why is Taylor okay Hannah you take that one I think she'll be fine oh okay great answer tell us what you heard on Travis Kelsey's retirement I heard it had hadn't been decided yet but that was like two weeks ago but the person who I was talking to in their opinion thinks over tire will Harry Styles tour other US cities next year yes I heard yes anything on Joe Kerry he was spotted on a date what we the person thought it was a date it's not confirmed um last week so your boyfriend's still single any idea of any unions in TV and film have plans to shut down production for the 130 strike what strike Hannah another strike I have not heard of another strike Britney Spears where is she is she okay Britney Spears is I believe currently in her favorite place on earth and yes she's doing great how does Taylor feel about Blake's leaked tax well-being doesn't have to be a routine sometimes it's just feeling grounded when you walk into a room pure as well being collection makes that simple with fragrances that are intentional fluid restorative balance and smart so your home can feel calm cozy or refreshed right when you need it discover the collection at pure calm slash moods I have no idea I know that there is an article going around about this saying that she's upset or angry or pissed I have not heard I've also not asked I'm just assuming like common sense that she's probably not very happy anything on Brett Goldstein nope just that he showed up at one of jalos shows a couple weeks ago maybe like three weeks ago what happened between Lewis and Olivia Rodrigo I mean I don't know there nobody knew the reason of why they broke up nobody knew our safe sex and cat stickler still dating I mean it's just the same questions over and over I wish I had the answers to some of the newer ones I don't have how's Taylor feeling about the tax I don't know you guys haven't heard take those headlines and those articles with the green assault I mean maybe they're written out of common sense that she's probably upset Bella Hadid and Taylor Sheridan not that I've heard that's not that's not who I heard what a list X to Sarah Foster keep talking about on her pod I don't know you guys they don't listen to her podcast I have no idea any news on the Bella Hadid and the breakup I don't know why they broke up you guys all I know is what I said at the beginning of this pod hot daddy Kyle Chandler any naughtyness in the past oh yeah there's naughtyness I posted about Kyle Chandler before he's in the rip which is a good movie you guys I mean it's good did you see a hand it's on Netflix no it's with Ben Affleck mad Damon it's good I thought it was good anything new on Merrill and Marty they're still together someone sent me something not a picture but just like a note and they're still together not a note saying they're still together but because of the note one could deduce they're still together when did Billy Eilish and Nat Wolf start dating um well you can go on demwa.world and in the search bar type their names and see when we first wrote about them although I think the date on that article is wrong and if you want to apply the demwa rule add four to six weeks before that date and probably then somebody asked who's the couple with the open marriage that you said we're divorcing I don't think I said that they had an open marriage I said or maybe I did or I or maybe I said I they must have an open marriage the way he acts when are they divorcing I have no idea I don't know they must have an open marriage they must Hannah I'm gonna say and you believe about the names and tell me if you've heard anything okay and oh I have not heard that oh really no okay I'm kind of shocked okay yeah I mean she acts as a sister in law your friends with his sister in law yeah I used to work with her but I don't know if she told me oh my god Hannah do you know some of the that you used to work with you who's a podcast listener messaged me it was like oh my god I used to work with Hannah I didn't realize it was the same Hannah until like this week and I've been listening for like months who was it I can't tell you his name well that would be giving away my source she said you were really quiet at first I was like what kind of employee was she I was like trying to get the dirt on you I was like what kind of employee was she said you were really quiet at first and then like you were like funny or nicer talkative she didn't tell me the job do you have any idea what job it could be no idea maybe comedy central your alma mater yeah maybe I mean now I you got to give me the name like I can't Hannah I can't give up my sources wonder if I need dirt on you well sounds like she doesn't have a lot no I ain't nervous I'm sweating okay let's hit the hotline music cute music to you hotline oh god I know you got attacked last time you talked about them but do you know if that if that is really Hudson Williams girlfriend just a friend still together or not okay this I don't know how I miss this this is on January 3rd I mean she was with him in Paris in Italy so I'm assuming they're still together or just friends I have no idea again have no idea I never knew I only knew from the fans that's that's who told me I never had any inside information I missed these these were from the beginning of January Ella Langley and Tucker I posted this in Sunday spotted Ella Langley and Tucker wet more we're arguing at the public in hermitage something about Tucker being a Morgan Wallen wannabe or something to that effect I don't know if that's the exact sighting I got okay this is about Drake oh again from the beginning of January when somebody thought that they were in I believe they were in Barbermuda or Barbados and this was over the holiday the person was there and they were told by somebody who worked at the restaurant or resort or wherever they were that Drake was having an engagement party but it wasn't Drake somebody said a non-please there were reports of Drake getting engaged over the new year but in fact it was his right-hand man chubs that was getting engaged to his long-time girlfriend from Toronto okay so lost in translation okay high-do this is Atlanta from Chicago I wanted to see if you had any more intel a milli bobby brown and stranger things I absolutely adore her but it's kind of odd that she isn't doing any press with the rest of the cast to promote season five I listened to the 1218 pod and you talked about stranger things briefly and mentioned she is rumored to be difficult to work with is this more of a strategic move for her to separate herself from the franchise or is there beef love you Hannah and Ferris RIP also if we could get Victoria back on the pod I would love that I still remember her episode being so good and Jonathan Mark needs a little woo-woo I need a little woo-woo in my life a lot of people are asking for Jonathan Mark I just need to schedule it Victoria by the way is a character in a non-please bringing him back to a non-please who is my best friend in real life who came on the pod twice once when the book was released to talk about the book because she's in it and she was very much like a you know a solid good friend around when Demois was being established because that was a great time in my life and not everyone was a good friend and then the second time I was visiting her because she was living away at the time and she came on the pod I'll ask her if she wants to come back on about Millie Bobby Brown a lot of people are asking why she wasn't at the stranger things premiere I I don't know the answer to that or season finale premiere whatever whatever it was I don't know why she wasn't there I never heard I don't think it had anything to I don't think it has anything to do with the David Harbor stuff I think that was resolved and you know I have heard stuff about Millie Bobby Brown and her being a certain way on set but I talked about on that episode I think you're referring to about how you know we have to remember that she was a child actor they just grow up a certain way on set you know but I haven't heard anything about her recently but there are a lot of stories about Millie Bobby Brown on the stranger things set okay you guys are just sending some sightings this person said how do you have a question for your next pod do you have plans to ever reveal yourself do your friends know who you are and now my friends all my friends know who my who what I do and my family but as I said at the beginning of the pod like the first two years I tried to keep it very very very very very very secretive do I ever plans to reveal myself I mean I don't know I go back and forth maybe I don't have plans the answer sorry I don't have plans but do I think about it yes but I also just sort of want to distance myself from being the face of Demois or the voice of Demois because I want it to be able to stand on its own and be its own thing and have other people you know working for it besides just me and the freelancers so that's the only reason why wouldn't because I feel like it would become more focused on me and not the content that I work really hard every day and I don't want to be an influencer I really don't want to be an influencer I don't consider myself an influencer so yeah that's the only reason but there's so many things I miss out on I've talked about this all the time like I like the promotion of the book and meeting people who you know love the book and talking about the book and just even like doing like I don't know like a brand dinner I sometimes think would be really fun to do like a private brand dinner with some of you guys like maybe I would do that but like a big like reveal no like until I make enough money from this to be like on the cover Forbes no I don't I don't need to do like a big reveal I do had two questions for you do you think Brooklyn and Nicola will pull the nuclear option and release the video from the video ographer I don't I don't think they well I really don't I think that his statement backfired I don't know if I said that last week but I definitely had this conversation with people offline that his statement sort of backfired the public's reaction I don't think it exactly went as planned so because of that I think no number two question is with our girl Nina Dobrev do you know she's still close with Jessica Zor or Zoe Deutsch I haven't seen photos of her with them lately maybe not a falling out just different life stages love you and Hannah thanks okay oh they said Kelly from Ohio for our independent survey Hannah Ohio good people good people in Ohio I kind of knew that already though because I have a close friend you knew it too I met a really hot guy at a party and he was the nicest guy I've ever met and I was like he could only be from Ohio you knew prior no he told me I was like that makes sense shout out to Ohio I have a good friend who's from Ohio so I that's why one of my like besties is from there originally so that's how I knew it was a good place also shout out to Minnesota if you live in Minnesota we're thinking of you stay safe crazy crazy stuff okay let me answer your question Nina Dobrev okay do I think she's so close okay I thought that her and Julianne Huff got into a tiff or like weren't friends anymore and then all of a sudden for Nina's birthday which was recently she posted for her so I don't know the answer but my I haven't heard of her having any like fall out with anyone she has a lot of friends Nina and she is single and partying so the being at different stages could very well be the reason all right let's hit the voicemails hi I just wanted to ask you about if you like what your thoughts on and wishing they could be friends with some of their favorite actors and musicians as well because there's just some people assume or make a assumption that the person has ill intention that I think a lot of people just tend to relate with their faves even though you know in a sense it is sort of like her a social I guess so pro that term and a lot of people throw it out as insult but honestly in my opinion all all you know celebrity and fan interactions of her social but I don't think that means there isn't any care or love there there are some celebrities who obviously don't give a box you know there can be absolutely comps but yeah I'm just very curious on what you think and if you think it's if you think it's normal or common or anything which I don't know if this would really be a bit for your podcast but it does relate to fan culture and I'm sure a lot of the followers that you have overlayed in a sense yes you can shorten this obviously if you use it on your podcast or if you answer it through something my name is Sabrina and I could consider this to be played you can speed it up I got the law I really did I'm so sorry mother kisses bye hi Sabrina your voice was actually very like soothing I didn't know where this voicemail was gonna go in what direction this question is actually very relevant to this podcast we've actually had a psychiatrist on the podcast to talk about parasocial relationships that episode was from when and November I think I thought it was further back than that but maybe okay October we had a doctor maybe October we had a doctor come on and talk about parasocial relationships it was kind of a controversial episode because I think that if you are a regular listener of this podcast you felt my frustration in speaking to this doctor because I don't think she understood the intensity of parasocial relationships between fans and some celebrities it is something that I deal with every day literally every single day I might not be an expert on celebrity gossip or no you know the answers to some questions that you guys ask but I do consider myself an expert on some of these fandoms because I literally read messages from these people talk to these people in the DMs I think that there are different levels to parasocial relationships if you remember the episode that I'm referring to the doctor actually argued that a parasocial relationship could be a good thing if there are healthy boundaries that are in place I don't think the majority of the parasocial relationships that we witness and I know a lot of you guys know exactly what I'm talking about because you're on Twitter and you're on TikTok I don't think that that boundaries exist now I feel like I deal with the gamut like I talk to a lot of people who know everything about these celebrities and I don't know would you consider that parasocial but they're of sound mind like they know that there are other parts of the fandom that are acting crazy or doing crazy things and saying crazy things however they are very on top of everything about this celebrity and that includes their whereabouts and their social media activity I would say like those are the two main things like they're whereabouts and social media activity however they are of sound mind I deal with these I mean I talk to these people every day so I know they're not like Kuku for Cocoa Puffs I don't know I have yet to see where a parasocial relationship could be something positive I've yet to see that firsthand so I think your question was I'm not really sure what your question was you made another statement that I think is interesting you said there are some celebrities who obviously don't give a fuck I think that's true I think that a lot of these celebrities see this online activity and you know they obviously can't say anything publicly but I'm sure that they're like these people are fucking out of their mind they're fucking crazy so I don't necessarily understand their mindset like do they think that they're doing good for this celebrity okay I mean I could talk on and on about this but I'm just gonna stop myself I mean I'm dying for someone to do a documentary about fandoms I do this is L I'm so excited to be able to talk to you and leave a voice mail you can use this on your podcast I consent to that I was listening to the pod this morning when you were reading the text messages that were released from Blake Lively that mentioned Taylor Swift and one thing that I read I think it was on the IG post that you did was Blake constantly referencing Justin Baldone being in a cult and I need to know more I live in Southern California it is the land of cult over here there's more than I can name and I'm dying to know if he hired everyone on the cast and crew of the movie from the cult what is that cult please tell us more thank you have a great day okay I'm so happy you brought this up L because I actually forgot to talk about this at the top of the podcast so if you listened to last week I was reading the text messages between Blake and Taylor in real time this is when those documents were first being circulated on the internet obviously since then and even that night I think so much more has come out so if you listen last week that was just a tip of the iceberg I didn't know what I was looking at I didn't know the documents had been unsealed I even questioned to Hannah like did he seem real well yes they were very very real Blake does also reference a lot L is correct Justin being in a cult it's not a cult it's a religion it's called the behind faith and one of your favorite actors Penn Badgley is also in this religion I had covered this so much three years ago when we were talking about cults on the Instagram account I forget it initially why cults came up something was going on with cults at the time I forget anyway somebody had brought up by and how Penn and Justin were part of this faith it is not a cult it's a religion any time that somebody had wrote a message about it referring to it as a cult this is three years ago on the Demois Instagram account people would be in my DMs being like it's not a cult it's a religion stop calling it a cult so I learned very early on that it's not a cult I don't know why she was calling it that I do know and this is something that could be argued I guess depending on your own personal views and standpoints but I think that she was referencing that it was the cult because and I don't know if he was doing this on set but Justin Belldoni had been known people had messaged me when I was covering cults three years ago that he had been known to speak to people I don't know if it's people he had just met or people he worked with I'm not sure about the behind religion trying to I guess in these people's opinions convert you know sort of like convert or get them to join or get them to come to church or get them to come to a service or get them interested so maybe I don't know if he was doing that on set and that you know made her think it was a cult I don't know why Blake was referring to it as a cult I only know why when I covered it people were calling it a cult it's not a cult it's a religion and I think that people that are part of this faith get offended when you call it a cult so maybe if you're speaking about it you can correct yourself now now that you know it's actually not a cult but I could go back and look at those messages for next week if you guys want me to because there were some messages this is way before it ends with us this is like I said maybe four years ago this was way back and people were bringing it up by and Justin Belldoney who at the time I didn't know who he was because I didn't watch the show he was on Ugly Betty I think he was on Ugly Betty he knew that since Elizabeth I gave consent for my question to be played on the podcast but can we first talk about before I ask my question nobody's ever made the name Sally in an outgoing message sounds so like Sal 3 and sexy this is quite the outgoing message my friend I am calling thinking about the Blake and Justin Belldoney of it all and in the text how she keeps saying that he's an occult I don't know there's a lot of hyperbole happening there so maybe it was just like you know he's got this very particular way of thinking but is that also like is it real so does anyone know the deal on that I think lady I well first thank you for saying my message was soldiery I am so surprised that more people don't know about Baha and that Justin is a part of it I guess I thought it was common knowledge hand did you know I mean I figured he wasn't something now I got to look it up this is the message I was referring to October 11th 2022 chiming in on this Baha talk Justin Belldoney tried to convert me to this faith at 3 a.m. in a Mexican restaurant in Hollywood that's what I was referring to I knew I had received some messages about it okay here's something else because like I said we were talking a lot about Baha and 2022 this is from this was an anonymous email do you know who else is in a cult actor Michael Shannon very sweet in person by the way he's into the Baha it's a relatively new religion and they have a place in Chicago called the Baha temple okay so some people were calling it a cult but it's a religion somebody else chimed in and said we have those temples in my city mostly houses where they practice on the slide because they're not licensed the thought behind the religion is nice but yeah it's kind of weird it's a really really new religion but because of the licensing issue at least in my city Vancouver it's thought of similar to a cult okay there you go all right guys we're out of time sorry the IG Q&A took up most of the pod and I didn't get to some voice messages it is way easier for me to do rapid fire Q&A's than to post all that on Instagram I will say that so let me know if you like that not fair to the people that don't listen to the pod but I don't know if they want to hear the Q&A this week I guess they could listen thank you guys as always for tuning in and if you have the time can you please rate and review our podcast we'd greatly appreciate it Hannah would greatly appreciate if you gave her specifically a good review help me sleep at night please yeah because some of the reviews were really upset her because she's not she's not used she's not used to being under fire that way to me it's all that so if you can leave Hannah a nice message that would be great all right thanks guys talk to you next week