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Oh, I see.
Wow.
Look over there.
Wow.
Is that culture?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Las Culturistas.
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Talk about.
Oh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ha.
Yeah.
What do you call that?
I call it a flourish.
A flourish?
Is it flourish or flourish?
I guess it's regional.
I would say American flourish.
American flourish.
Title of that?
American flourish.
Oh, shit.
I don't know that those words go together.
Well, okay.
The headline is we just got back from the Olympics.
Thank you to NBC.
And YouTube for sending us.
And yeah, if you want to hear specifically about them, you can listen to Two Guys, Five
Rings, which sort of bookend this by coming out on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
But we talked a lot about it there.
But being American nowadays, hmm, in a word, hmm.
In a word, hmm.
Does your name show up in the Epstein files?
It does not.
I can confirm my name does not show up in the Epstein files.
It does not.
It does not.
And if it does.
I have to say it's the other Matt Rogers.
And I'm pointing all my fingers everywhere else.
Because as you know, I am like millions of Americans.
My name is Matt Rogers.
But if there's one in there, it ain't me.
Are you in the E-Files?
I don't think so.
But I will also blame the other Matt Rogerses of the world if I am.
Are you the only Bowen Yang?
No, no.
There are certainly others.
You know, it was very like Broad City, the episode with Alana and Alia Shawkat.
Like, there's once, I was once friends with another Bowen Yang on Facebook.
Remember that era of social media where it was like, your only handle on a site like Facebook was your real name and you could search via other names, like government, Christian, religious names, like what your, like other people.
You can find community this way.
And so I tried that with another Bowen Yang and he seemed to be very weirded out by like my outreach.
He was like, I don't want to just on the basis of name connect with you.
He's like, that won't be enough for me.
And I understand now.
He's, he was, he was way ahead in emotional intelligence.
I could shout out one other Matt Rogers who is actually a Grammy winning country songwriter.
Not the one with the Christmas album.
Different Matt Rogers.
Okay, so there's one that's a Grammy winning country songwriter that's separate from the like sort of, I'm just going to say.
A raunchy, more conservative comedian.
American Idol.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's different than the American Idol guy.
That's a fourth one.
Yes.
Which is also different from me.
This is into the Spider-Verse.
This is, this is.
I think there is like a multiverse sort of action comedy.
I think you could write a Christmas, a multiverse Christmas special with all four plus of you.
Yeah, this guy, Matt Rogers is a sports podcaster.
And, but, but,
his handle is politidope, which made me think he was like a political person, but.
He's a dope fiend.
Oh yeah.
Just to, to go back to the Epstein files of it all for a second.
I have been wanting to say something, which is that I feel in a real way, what's kind of getting lost in all of this is the fact that yes, it's kind of becoming this like political game of like, can we get Trump and all these horrible, awful men.
Yeah, yeah.
And then people have said before me, obviously, that like, there's real victims here.
I feel like I just want to put out there and just reach out to everyone that it's not just the victims in this case.
This is like when things like this come out, it's like incredibly triggering for anyone out there that has any history or experience with being abused, whether, whenever that happened in your life.
And so I have just like really been wanting to say to everyone, like, cause it feels like an incredible.
Incredibly rough, dark, awful time.
Obviously, I know we're all feeling it, but I just wanted to show love to anyone that is feeling like really harmed or triggered by this being casually in the news every day.
And I feel like we sort of get so numb to every single moment feeling we have to be on high alert when we watch the news or, you know, receive any information about what's happening in the world.
But I did just want to stop and say, this.
This is not normal.
This should not be in our lives every minute of the day.
This will they or won't they about whether or not there's going to be accountability in this awful thing, which is I would I would go out there and say the biggest scandal maybe ever.
And even that feels like diminishing what it is, which is just sheer pain.
And so I just wanted to reach out to all of our listeners and say, I'm sorry if this is hurting you.
And if this is triggering something in you, because I really think it's starting to become very cavalier, actually, the way people just kind of like throw the Epstein files around and it's not OK.
And I'm at the point now where I'm just like, we need to burn the whole fucking thing down at this point because we need to start creating and living in a better world than the one we're living in where where we're still protecting these people.
That's what's coming out.
So is the casualness like it is the way that like these people like we're joking about openly calling themselves pedophiles, monsters.
But it's like they're not even like hiding behind.
It's like, no, there's there's not even like an irony behind it.
It's like they're like, yeah, this is what we do.
Anyway, what a great note to start this by.
No, but I mean, like, no, no, no, I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm just I'm just I'm just popping the bubble.
I don't I'm not like.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
You're saying we were talking about this.
It's been a time when the dark stuff is so beyond anything.
I think we've we've taken in direct succession again and again and again and again.
It's not just like, oh, that thing happened.
That's sad. It's oh, that thing happened.
That's like devastating and would never have been in our purview in other areas like where we were out here consuming, you know,
news and media.
And it's like bizarre to comment on pop culture sometimes.
Like, I don't know if you feel like this lately, but like I haven't consumed it.
I guess what I'm saying is like, well, I don't know.
Algorithmically, like maybe I've just pushed the wrong buttons because now it's just all this like conspiracy stuff about like the Epstein of it all.
And I'm just like, I have to put my phone away and back to back off and like give myself a hug because it's also fucking crazy.
But I think that in a time when we're like commenting on pop culture and stuff.
And it feels like so blended in with our political reality and the dark reality.
I just feel like we have to say out loud, like this is like it's been unbelievably bleak.
And I just want to show love to our listeners and the readers and everybody, everyone under the umbrella, because I know I've been feeling like shit, like shit.
Yeah, I have sort of done the thing that I.
I do, which is I sort of ensconce myself in like, which is I think what everybody is doing.
It's like, oh, let me just fully burrow and like comfort.
And like, I've been very like, everyone's like, let's hey, like we're going out to this plan.
I'm like, no, thanks.
It's everyone's being Christian Wig at me being like, hey, come over here.
And I'm like, no, no.
Well, you did go to that Lunar New Year party.
That was fun.
Yeah, that was very fun.
That was which I didn't know until after.
in fact it was Hudson Williams'
birthday party wow this is where i go i've fully aged out of things it was like did it seem like
a young vibe no no no no it wasn't even that it was just it's not that i've aged out it's just
that i am fully in my introvert agoraphobia bag like oh i was like oh right it's fashion week
and it's lunar new year and it's like just all these things are happening i i felt like i was
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and okay so like this is just taking stock of like what this year has been for us we did
oscars we did i guess you could say we did coachella which also felt like another like
energy like nexus energetically like a thing that like people like talk about go to like just a
meeting place a thing i don't know and then like stuff over the summer right like us open like
we've gotten to like go to these great i would say like fun things and then like olympics and then
like snl 50 and then like just like just like we've like it's just a very overstimulating year
we've been relentlessly plugged in that's for sure and like something about
you
going to going from like olympics right into like another concentrated burst of activity
it just made me go like okay this is like more than anyone is like meant to handle and i actually
and my heart goes out to people who like work on this schedule of like having to be at these like
high concentration like biomassey events where like people gather and people like because i'm
like this is this is a lot and you just see like the billboard of the world everywhere it's like
you see every brand and thing and then it makes you it makes us kind of go like wait i
guess like everyone's job now is just to like say how much they love like this this brand or that
brand including us like i did a freaking super bowl ad for goodness sakes like it's just i'm
dealing with like like i thought i had done like you know like i was like i'm just like i'm just like
like i thought i had done like the post-mortem of like the big like flash point of my life in
january and now i'm like oh it's still ongoing there are still things that we that like i'm
about to go to antarctica tomorrow like there's there's just like i i am done being stimulated
to be honest i think you need to make an active choice to just i i've said this to you you need
to learn how to be bored i love being bored oh my god so what i've been doing this is all to say
i have been like a million things came out this weekend that i like wanted to see or like wanted
to engage with and i just haven't like i still haven't pressed play on the wuthering heights
album oh my god you haven't i also saw the movie i am like i'm bursting to talk so you're as usual
like and i'm grateful for you like you are like going out into the field in the words of wendy
williams like you are in the field frightened of corvo cornova like you i just did that i mean like
there's so many things to talk about i guess i think that what i'm delineating from what you're
saying which i think actually is a pretty universal thing right now it's hard to show up
yeah showing up is hard right now like showing up is weird showing up takes a lot
of energy i think everyone in their life right now it's also a weird time of year
people are not doing well things are not great and so everyone's dealing with their own saturation
at a certain level and that's i guess why i just wanted to get on here and just like try and show
love to people and because it's been really hard like it's it's been a really weird dark start to
the year because it's one system our one soul like our one cultural soul right now is not happy and
maybe that sounds woo-woo or like bizarre but the present condition is like extremely
extremely depleting that's it and i think that means that we can't
or it's very hard for us to show each other empathy and i think that it's just
important that we do that for each other and that we do that for all of you and so with all that
being said i did see wuthering heights which was devastating oh in what way so sad uh-huh but
felt right for the moment because it felt a little cathartic for the moment like this
bleak portrait of tragic like romance i think i loved it okay you know emerald
finnell is a is a controversial figure on this podcast because it actually was salt burn and our
reviews of salt burn which caused tina fey to come in here and do her authenticity is dangerous and
expensive i don't think so honey because we've had i think because when you go see a movie of hers
there is a lot to talk about yeah like you you therefore leave with a lot of strong reactions
and i've realized that that is good and maybe makes her one of my favorites because i am leaving
now with a ton to say and feel and more and i think at least that in the picture of everything
that's going on right now has been kind of a good thing because i did go to the theater and for two
hours and 16 minutes i didn't think about anything else than what was truly happening on screen you
know what i mean like as it gave escape and i think that artistically creatively culturally
that is what we need because
that's what we're talking about right now it being incredibly hard to even
show up in the bleak ass reality well i need more of this gushy type of movie
like fantastical reality stuff i and and you know i've even been thinking more and
more about getting into video games what has what is what's what's piqued your interest
i think just exactly what i'm saying just like what's a way i can occupy myself in another reality
in another dimension that has nothing to do with really with social media and with reality yeah so
to me like it's no like there's there's something uh intellectually logically great about anytime
someone's like oh that person is really into video games and they like and with that connotation it's
like they are a shut-in or something like that so yeah i think that's that's what i'm trying to do
so i think that's what i'm trying to do is i think that's what i'm trying to do is i think that's
what i'm trying to do is i think that's what i'm trying to do is i think that's what i'm trying to
do is i think that's what i'm trying to do is i think that's what i'm trying to do is i think that's
person and I love video games and I've balanced I've balanced those two loves like all my life
and then as we're like as you and I are talking about stuff where we're like oh like we're working
on things that are about like people trying to get in somewhere and get into places or like
who are very aware of the way that things are stratified in this world just even you talking
about like going to a movie and escaping for two and a half hours I know this is like well-trod
stuff where it's like this cinema is an escape but either there's like a really interesting binary
now of like people are either staying home and isolating and like that's like loneliness epidemic
blah blah blah blah blah or it's like people are ravenous about going to the the right party the
right fashion show the right movie the right concert whatever yeah like it's either about like
curation of your own like internal space or it's about like aggressively needing access to something
that's outside of that yeah it's a higher anxiety around all of it I think as a result of the world
being the way it is and also post-pandemic like us coming out of the first couple years of that
which were like a frenzy and now we're settled into just like okay this is now fully post-covid
movie theaters are really struggling like it's hard to get people to go to the movie theaters
like it's hard to get people out you know and then I go see this one I can't believe you haven't even
listened to the Charlie album I've listened to the singles that have been put out I've not listened
to the full like the full album yeah I laugh as these words even come out of my mouth you guys
because I I get what it sounds like so I'm not gonna say it's my favorite Charlie XCX album I
am gonna say I am blown away by her a fucking gen and I don't understand how she did that
doing everything else she was doing the just impenetrable brat machine that's been going for
two years she somehow found time to not only do this companion album to Wuthering Heights
but to completely crush it and push herself forward in a way that she clearly like finds
acceleration in being busy because the strings and Charlie XCX
we had heard that this was going to be what she was going to explore musically that there was
going to be orchestral you know elements the push and pull of the strings on some of these
scores
songs to create tension to ride the waves of what these characters are going through in the movie
i had already loved it before i saw the movie and then i saw the movie and i enjoyed it even more
she has real talent in terms of what she can do cinematically with her music she's got a huge
future probably and she didn't score this movie but she did the music for it but i would wager
to guess scored other things yeah yeah yeah that she is going to have a huge future she already has
a presence in obviously in the film yeah well in culture obviously but in film culture yes what
she's capable of is so good in terms of atmosphere cinematic atmosphere she clearly got this
rendition of wuthering heights because it isn't wuthering heights it's like a bizarre sort of
slant version
slant
version of wuthering heights but my god and it's like her lyrics are more poetic than they've been
yet it's pure pop but it feels like it's for the movie theater it's she's on one of course she i
think she was saying in interviews for this project that during the chaos of brat era that
she was like you know uh emerald text
her and is like will you do a song and she's like i'll do you one better i'll write write a whole album
and then she escapes into like the bronte sisters or i think i think she like at least read wuthering
heights and that was like the escape that she needed from this like i think like again we're
not saying anything new about escapism as a as if as it like functions or as we like need it like on
a sort of like psychological level but like
i think that is thematically like obviously like running throughout all of these things
in the current moment as like you and i are talking about all of these things kind of
wearing us down like the world being like things things politically being completely helpless and
powerless like anytime like we try to think of things in terms of politics in terms of
at the end of the day it should just be about making sure people are better off that materially
like even our laura
during episode that like made me come away from things being like wow even she has an awareness
of the fact that people do not have the things they need to survive in this world like that is
what is true that is universal basically except for like a very small group of like let's say
epstein-y people um but like otherwise like everyone needs this everyone is tapping into
like escape that's all yeah i don't know i'm saying things that are like so no i'm not saying
like generally true the opportunity to get this as an artist for her was clearly leapt at you know
what i mean like she i i i feel like i don't like talking about them in the same sentence because
so much has been made about it already but it felt like what folklore felt like for me when i
listened to it in terms of taylor whereas this is like an experience outside of herself aka these
novel the novel and this film and it but it's still all the things that charlie does best like
it's incredibly emotional pop on this landscape it's just the landscape is different from what we
come to find from her did you ever read this book no never okay i had never read it in high school
either but people talk about it like it's one of the ones people
write hard for for brontes it's so dark and fucked and charlie was the perfect person to ask
to do it because there is this like pouty fatalism the entire time especially watching it and knowing
it's gonna end incredibly badly i just john august said on instagram he posted like a picture of the
poster and this is when i had just left the film and i was like huh and i'm sitting with it thinking
about it and
then john august said emerald finnell makes the movies she wants to see i fucking love it and i
was like you know what in that regard i'm actually thinking about all three of her films differently
because you can even watch the three of them i haven't done this yet i i think i will but you
could even think of them as operating in the same it's the timeline like they're in the same universe
like she has a color palette i really like watching again her departments are on 10 charlie now being
one of them she clearly has people that want to give everything to what she does i think if i have
an issue with this movie it's just the fact that because it is not actually wuthering heights like
therefore the story's not doesn't feel like it's completely on the screen like it's just maybe not
enough happens in act three for me to be like really taken over the top with it but what i love
about this movie fuck it i don't know what to say about it i don't know what to say about it i don't
know what to say about it like i just love fucking choices i think what i needed right now is what
we're talking about which is like this big victorian cartoon with huge emotions and like
sex and like blood and i just really heavy hand handed sound design and like i just loved again
how gushy it was it felt like it felt like an entree size dessert
whoa dessert for dinner felt like ice cream for dinner felt like too much pie for dinner
and i and i love that yeah it was indulgent in all the best ways like someone said um that it's
their favorite movie out of the three she's done because it feels like it it at least has to be
about something whereas you know like promising young woman is obviously about sa and about
the patriarchy and the poison that that is and then this is kind of just like
yeah here's a tragic fucking romance blown all the way out you can tell it's probably you know
her favorite novel so much so that she didn't try to remake it she just said i'm gonna make
yeah something in this image because i fucking love it well because romance you can do
forgive the term like at scale you can like you can blow out romance all the fucking way
yes and we appreciate it and we appreciate it and it works
it can be you know romance can either be super small and intimate or it can be
it can horse you around it being like the grandest fucking overture thing
ever and it works on whatever scale like i think if you're gonna do like a class
parable or like something about wealth about wealth and if you're gonna do something about
sexual assault like that is those are those are big swings that i think people really want to see
like the landing stage
and they have intense reactions to those that like i mean both both those movies garnered
intense reactions and it's because what she does is incredibly bold so she brought that boldness
to so much of this movie but it didn't feel like even the moments that felt like sensational and
that we've come to expect from her they felt balanced now because because they across the
world we were just living in a heightened reality that and not to say that it wasn't about anything
because obviously it's about so many things it's obviously about trauma it's about it's about trauma
jamie lee curtis yeah but it was funny because like you're just like isn't everything but in a
real way but i guess what i'm saying is this i was excited to see her adopt an existing work
because i was like now she can just focus on putting all of her onto it and i really
liked seeing all of her onto it and jacob alordi i think his oscar chances increased i don't know
if he'll win but he's fucking great in this he's amazing yeah oh well i can't speak to this movie
but i generally find him to be unbelievably talented and great at every like what he's done
like almost pound for pound like roll for roll i'm always like well yeah i think i didn't really know
because to be honest with you i'm kind of i'm kind of a neophyte when it comes to
being exposed to his gifts because i'm not a euphoria girly and i'm not a euphoria girl it
kind of makes me dizzy of course i understand i it took me i think i watched the first episode
of euphoria and then waited like a full two years later to watch the rest of the show
and he from the beginning is like well who's that guy right right right exactly you know what i mean
i feel like watching euphoria in the very beginning when like it reminds me of being in like
seventh grade when when like you were in health class and you were seeing like like the day in
health class when i'll never forget this one day maybe everyone had a version of this but
there was a day in like seventh or eighth grade was in health class where they were talking about
stis and they were showing pictures of stuff that could maybe this was like a scared straight tactic
but there was pictures on the board of like what happens to your body when you get this sti or that
one or that one and it was like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die
- I modeled all of those pics.
- It spun me out.
out so much that I remember one day all the blood left my face and I had to lay down on the table
and then I was sent to the nurse's office for two hours because I couldn't like I just I don't know
what happened to me but I get that feeling when I watch euphoria like I'm just like oh my god this
is so overwhelming like I don't know what it is it takes over the systems of my body and shuts
the body horror it's body horror but yet it's not but it kind of is you know what I mean because
it's teens in these kind of situations and it's so stylized and like I said casual I'm just like
oh like right what do you think of this sentence Sarah Sherman like broke this open for me we are
all of us human bodies that all have are governed by the same processes that are at the end of the
disgusting oh 100% and I think that the media that we're talking about makes that extremely clear
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i have appreciated sarah's work specifically because i'm like oh this is like there is like
a political commentary that she is making about like shit coming out of her like like
hamburger helper shit coming out of a butthole or like yeah you know like her nipples hanging all
the way to the floor i'm like oh we're all just gristle yeah and i'm like but she's doing it and
in this artistic way this i i might just should i just start a sarah sherman stan podcast like i
have i have enough i could talk about this girl forever if you did a sarah sherman podcast
it would get listened to like it would it would be in the top 200 bo and yang sarah sherman podcast
i'm i'm gonna do it but she's right and she should say it and she should keep saying it
and she should keep saying it it's it's like that in in salt burn i mean it's all it's like
that in wuthering heights too it's like there's so much like blood and gore well not even blood
and gore not at the end like you get like stylized stuff okay i don't think i'm spoiling anything
here to say that the film ends in significant death and it is you know tragic and stylized and
not to call it not to call it death romantic but it is romantic you know what i mean like it's in
that in in the definitive way it's just grand and it's a statement and i've said this about
her other films too like she has a fascination with the corpse uh-huh yeah yeah like in the
first film i'm not spoiling well this is a spoiler alert for promising young woman but at the end
when carrie's yes there's there's a moment yeah there's like a
lot about her corpse and the way it moves and sounds and the way they have to break it down
and then that happens again in salt burn when spoiler alert jacob alordy is found in the in
the maze and you hear the flies around his body and you see i believe it's richard e grant goes
up to the body and tries to move it and like the sounds that make her very stiff it's just
it's all very i mean the first scene of of the of wuthering heights i'll say a
spoiler alert for 15 seconds is a man is being hung in the town square and the entire crowd is
like ecstatically and euphorically looking at his erection while he takes his last breaths and you're
like okay we are at emerald finnell's wuthering heights and then it just continues but it is this
fascination with corpse that act and like like corporal function or lack thereof that kind of
does connect sarah sherman to emerald finnell and i bet you didn't think that would happen there at
the end of that thought no i i love it any any anything that relates back to sarah sherman that
makes me happy but it's but it is there like it is it like there is i don't know i would be
interested in the perspective on that like if we ever do have sarah sherman on this podcast and
ask her a real question or emerald finnell just like i would ask like where are you coming from
when you tackle the human body this way like i i do think it's fascinating well the thing that i
would genuinely love to ask sarah is she draws the line at what she will not ever touch it's boogers
yeah because and then i'm like sarah why why don't you like to do booger stuff or why don't you like
booger stuff and all she's ever been able to say to me is i mean what are we like we're grown we're
like are we seven so much of her humor is like and then their head comes off and yet boogers are
like what are we children she's she's like hannah i mean that episode with her it's rare we get
blackout but we didn't even drink that much can i say we had one martini each but we felt drunk
well it's kind of like that thing again warped reality escapism it's like we wanted to be drunk
and so we were and so we were totally
wait a minute back to you potentially i feel like we've always been at the precipice of this of you
wanting to try video
games and it never totally works
well because I can't figure out how to plug it in
really or get the games
on the thing once I figure out
how to load games onto the Wii
it's over for you hoes
you can easily
I think there's plenty of resources out there
I think you have people in your
in sort of your network
and your orbit who can help you with that
in the words of CharlieXCX
I want to be taken out of myself
which is one of the new songs
on the album
take me out of myself
someone and show me it's possible
to become a little gamer
because I
I really was one
when we were at the Super Nintendo Museum
I was like I was this girl
I was that little girl
was me
can you talk about
I'm going to give you a little helix sleep quiz
okay
do you want narrative
or does
does story not really matter
I think this is
an annoying answer because I would
get nowhere with helix by saying something
like this it doesn't matter it would depend
on the type of narrative like if it's a compelling
narrative 100% but
you have but also my entire
history is in like
achievement based Super Smash
Brothers type Mario Kart type
stuff I one time
played the Super Mario RGP
on the Super Nintendo
which I thought was a great game
Mario RPG yeah yeah
yes I thought that was amazing
uh huh
they re-released it they remade it for switch
did they
with the same narrative
same narrative they just updated the graphics
wow cool
so when we played Split Fiction a few weeks ago
right
what did you think
I loved it because
you know what I loved about it
the fact that I felt like
it was clear what I was supposed to do
and how I was supposed to do it
it is that an example of a game
for babies
no I don't think you need
to worry about for babies
because there's like a
running joke
now among the gaming
community that like games now
so this might surprise you
games from when you were a video
gamer as a child and in your younger
years were harder than they are
now really
yes and I know that might be hard
to believe there's obviously games that are
there is like a genre
of games that are purely about
difficulty and about like you are supposed to die and fail
like roguelikes
Elden Ring
Dark Souls
from software games
so like Patty
friend of the pod
Patty Harrison
loves those games
that's where she and I differ
like I do like a bit of handholding
and I think you might as well
I think the perfect balance for you is
and I try to get you on this
is Zelda Breath of the Wild
yeah
so there's something
okay
and I'm just gonna say this
and I'm gonna
it's just my truth
okay
there's something about Zelda
to me
which is a shame
which is that there's no humor in it
I see what you're saying
I think I need things to be a little
sillier and dumber
or more
Final Fantasy is a great option
there's like a lot of weird shit
I think Dragon Quest is actually really
a good option which is what I've been playing
the last 72 hours exclusively
um Dragon Quest is a good option
Dragon Quest VII Reimagined
you I think
and I think this will
this will motivate you
I think Jared
our friend Jared
loves the Spider-Man games
yeah he does love the Spider-Man games
and those are
wonderful experiences
yeah
I think you would really love those
great storytelling
great voice acting
great gameplay
you really do feel like Peter Parker
or Miles Morales
as you swing around
okay
it's a wonderful time
considering
and there's
a great Asian villain
oh really
yeah
I'm looking for something else
to fill my time with
as I
head on tackle
the
which I think we all must do
the social media addiction
and social media reliance
like
just
having the phone
to not be a thing
got
like the reality
that that really needs to be
more of my life
like got me on this
and so I'm just
like I said
it's a great cure
it's a great cure
take me away
I'm not going to
take me out of myself
what is it
what's the Charlie lyric
take me out of myself
yeah
it's so good
I'm excited for you
to listen to it
and every song is good
there's a song called
seeing things
which is amazing
always everywhere
it's so good
there's a wall of sound
this song
wall of sound
in the movie
it's like I said
the push and pull
of the strings
and Margot Robbie
and Jacob Elordi
like
there's something about it
where
in the beginning
I was like
is this
do I like
them together in this
and then by the end
I was like
yes I like them together
in this
I think it's just
part of the stylization again
like I did not expect
myself to go in
and be like
fuck yeah
but I'm leaving
kind of being like
fuck yeah
okay great
I love this
did you watch
Bad Bunny
I did
of course
of course
I watched
Bad Bunny
featuring Estefania
Estefania
and Enrique
Martin
and Enrique
is that
is that his full
first
is that his like
I have no idea
he'll just be
always be
Ricky Martin to me
he's having a huge month
when you count
the Super Bowl
and the fact that
almost all of the
ice dancing routines
were to some
medley
or version
of
Ricky Martin's
greatest
from the 90s
so in the
round of ice dance
that we saw
it was
it was a 90s night
yeah
and so
it was a lot of
Ricky Martin
a lot of
waiting for tonight
not just J-Lo
not like the broad
J-Lo catalog
but it was like
waiting for tonight
some of them
mashed it up with
If You Had My Love
but it was
really staggering
and you went
okay
okay here's another
version of this
and then
I mean I loved
UK doing a
Spice Girls medley
there were so
there were so many
great choices
again probably
the best choice
of song
they would ultimately
win
was the French
pair doing Vogue
because it gave you
something to latch on to
sure
but I will say
every time
you heard
you were never
upset
no
and we were
living la vida loca
yeah
and I'm happy
that Bunny brought on
oh my god
of course
you have to
you have to
I'm still
playing where's Waldo
on that shot
of all the people
at the house
still people partying
um
I just
I just thought
it was like
what the billboard
was saying
it was like
this gorgeous
yeah
explosion of love
I was like
that was Benito
giving everyone a hug
that was
that was Benito
giving everyone a hug
that's like
that's I guess
what it is
it's like
showing up now
in a way that's
that visible
means like
okay here's your
opportunity to send
a message to the world
and the fact that
he as a person
with a worldwide
platform said
my message is joy
my message is love
my message is to
togetherness
my message is
positive
my message is
hope
like my message
is not
wow
this Olympian
that's speaking out
like in a way
that is a loser
like whatever
not to even bring
out a given
because they're all
such fucking jokes
but
Bad Bunny shows up
with a worldwide
platform
and his message is
hey
here's the most fun
most expressive
most passionate
music of the year
fresh off my album
of the year win
here's everything
everybody
here's a literal
party on stage
here it is
and
received
for sure
it's like the
tight shot of him
walking through
sugar
cane
it's like
it's intimate
it's like
it's like you're
following someone
through like
this like organic
natural
thing
it's I don't know
I mean like
we're already like
two weeks after
the fact
because we've been
bouncing around
uh
doing our various jobs
but like
I think it's
I think it's
it's truly one of the best
it was so great
one of the most indelible
one of the best
it was up there for me
with
obviously Beyonce
mhm
obviously Gaga
and the Shakira
and JLo one
I always put respect
on its name
and
I do rewatch
the Katy Perry one
a lot
I actually love
that Katy Perry
halftime show
someone
I think
I think there was a clip
of it that went around
of like
when she said
I know a place
sing it
and then the whole stadium
did sing
where the grass
is really greener
you gotta hand it to her
you have to hand it to her
like a whole stadium
doesn't lie
it's actually
rule of culture
number 20
a whole stadium
doesn't lie
but you do go
like Katy Perry
and the current
day
is tough
this is purely
purely
us retrospectively
being like
what a
what a lovely moment
in Super Bowl
halftime show history
and that's
And that's really it.
I mean, look, I am moving forward with arms wide open for everyone that isn't an evil fucking hag.
Like that's that's that's the energy I'm moving forward with.
And I think that's what Bad Bunny would want us to do.
I just I feel like all the little quibbles and quabbles, like not to say that people shouldn't be like held to account for like things that they've done.
But like, I am mad at Katy Perry.
Like the world is too the world is too much to hold to hold bad feelings in your heart against Katy Perry.
I think I.
I think, don't you think?
I just think about the nun.
Fair.
Fair, but I'm saying the nun,
if the nun was really walking in Christ,
wouldn't the nun say forgive?
Her dying breath.
Katy Perry, please stop.
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Speaking of forgiveness,
what do you think is going to,
how do you think this Tyra Top Model documentary
is going to pan out?
The fact that we're talking about it this much,
as in like you and I and like our friends,
next week we have on.
It's the highest anticipated event of the year for me.
I cannot wait to see this shit.
It legitimately feels that way.
I feel like Netflix has not put this much pre-promotion
into something like this in a long time.
Well, they don't traditionally,
I agree with you.
It does feel like,
there's been a lead up to this
where you don't traditionally get that with Netflix.
They kind of are like,
hey, something's coming out in two weeks.
Flop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because of the way they move through their content.
But this does feel like it's being eventized.
And then for her to come out and be like,
America's Next Top Model season 25.
And she said,
my work is not done.
I said,
I couldn't be more.
I'm more interested.
Couldn't be.
Was this what we were saying last time though?
Cycle 20,
the cycle that we were watching on VH1?
I mean,
we watched the last one that was on at all.
And by the way,
I never told you this,
but there was one contestant,
I won't say who,
but I remember watching it because we actually,
we recapped it for Vulture.
But I was watching it and there was one girl who all of a sudden was just
kind of gone.
Like she was like a,
she was,
she was like maybe made it to top six or something.
And then she just left.
And it seemed like everything wasn't all the way well with her.
In cycle 24 and the end of the week Harvard?
Yes.
And last year,
Oh no.
I walk into a coffee shop around where I used to live in Queens.
And there's this girl talking to the barista and I'm like,
where do I recognize this girl from?
And it was her.
And so I had sort of a friendly relationship.
With the barista.
And so I'm looking at her and then I look at him and I communicate with my
eyes.
Like,
I think I recognize her.
And the look that he shot me back was don't know.
Don't bring it up.
Don't.
And I was like,
well,
I wasn't going to,
by the way,
I,
I,
I,
cause once I clocked,
you knew.
Yeah.
Well,
cause I feel like,
especially with top model,
like those girls,
like you don't,
I would never want to get into it with one of them because it's so
clear that it was not a healthy atmosphere.
Like it,
that's the entire conversation around it.
Now that's why we have this documentary.
So I would like,
but I was thinking in that moment,
like it was so wild that his reaction to me was to shake his head with
wide eyes because clearly people were affected by their experiences
to put it mildly adverse ways.
And so now it's,
it's to see it occupy the news again.
Especially at a time when we're talking about how young women have been
subjugated and treated and trafficked across the world.
I don't know if it were up to me,
probably wouldn't be bringing it back,
but you know,
I,
do we think that Tyra is eager to return to it because she feels like
there's something redemptive.
I think she wants to do the right thing.
I will say that.
I,
I,
I really do think that she probably feels like she's going to be able to
do what she thinks.
You know what?
I hate that.
This is the narrative around this.
I too was once a young model.
I know what it's like to be treated,
you know,
in ways that again,
to put it mildly,
we're unsavory and like,
we can't even begin to know.
And I'm sure she doesn't want her name and something that she,
you know,
brought into this world to be associated with destroying the psyches of
young women,
trying to work in the,
the very same industry that she made it.
I'm just,
I'm certain that she feels like there is an opportunity here.
And I,
I really don't believe and don't want to believe that it's just about
her image.
Like I,
I,
I hope that she wants to restore what she broke here.
Because there was a time when that show was at the forefront of
reality television.
I mean,
yeah,
you could argue that it defined that you,
we wouldn't,
we wouldn't have a drag race without top model or yeah.
Cause it was cause drag race.
There was a time when drag race was just,
was like very actively parodying top model.
Well,
yeah,
the entire,
the entire conceit is,
is based on that format.
That brew and drag was Tyra and route of drug was Tim gun.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The project runway meets,
um,
meets top model and you get,
you get drag race.
You've got drag race totally.
Which is to say that like image saving,
like I think is part of it for Tyra.
But I don't think that's like a totally in admirable.
I don't think that's like a,
a bad thing necessarily.
Like she,
I don't know.
Well,
I don't know.
We don't know her.
So it's hard to say,
but it's like,
yeah,
I,
I,
at this point,
I would just want to assume that with everything we know about how
dark the world is and how.
Mm-hmm.
at this point it's like
you wouldn't you wouldn't consciously bring back that television series to make things worse
of course you know you're not gonna like line them up and be like all right which black girl
we turn in white you know what i mean like it's never going back there but i would imagine and i
would hope that they just try to do an honest depiction of what it would be like for people
to come and try and make it in the modeling industry and not sensationalize it for dramatic
purpose which is unreal and harmful but also not sanitize and go all the way out of the way
and make it toxically positive because loki those are just not fun to watch so make it competitive
and make it make it edgy and make it relevant to what the industry is but let's not um chop a girl's
ear off because the challenge requires
it sure underrated gem i think people must watch omg fashion um hosted by julia fox with la roach
yep and and rotating judges it's just you're in and out julio put put put me on i think you put
put us both on it it's like julio's favorite show it's like yes every episode is 25 minutes
you see it's like three contestants per show it's a breeze it's a breeze oh it's just delightful
and you see people like make fashions it's so fun like it's really good
so have you been exclusively on the video game tip or have you been watching any bravo
i've not watched much bravo at all i've not no you're watching summer house
or you want to talk about summer house i'm i'm watching summer house and
it's hard because i love kyle and amanda both i know and i feel like i one thing i really don't
like is when couples fight in front of people and their friends like i it was happening already i'll
never forget oh god
god it's just like it's so thick it's really what it is is it's just two people who and we can say
this because we've been around them we know them they clearly love and adore each other they just
shouldn't be together which we know is happening but it's watching people in real time kind of
realize like the anxiety is creeping up in different ways for both of them which is like
oh my god this isn't working and now
i have to decide to extricate myself from the situation and that is so stressful
yeah i mean should we say that like when we were with them before they started shooting that things
seemed okay they seem like they love each other it's just that that is and we also were hanging
out with them in like a heightened atmosphere like partying in camp you know what i mean like
but then but we were with we spent time with them
oh yeah no definitely a lot of time i was like they it was it was funny because like i had never
really watched summer house for years and so i got into it in the last couple years and when
people were saying like oh the whole you know kyle and amanda of it all blah blah blah i'm like
that feels like really blown out of proportion to me because i was just like around them and like
they're they're they seem great and then yeah you watch the show and you're like oh it's that thing
of when when the cameras are rolling and it's let's roll on
reality you kind of have to be real and it just feels like either they grew apart or
yeah or it's just that thing of you know you're realizing who someone is growing into is someone
that they can they can no longer do anything right in your eyes like it's it's that thing
of like when you're at the end of a relationship with someone and they kiss you and you're just
like oh like it's the smallest thing and i feel like they're there and not it
bums it bums me out to watch it's that thing where when the cameras are rolling
you are performing to them but it's it's very hard to be dishonest do you know what i mean yes
and the thing too is like you can tell they have two different responses to that where amanda's
kind of being like fuck it i don't care yeah and and like she doesn't really care the way she comes
off and kyle is sort of like being a bit petulant and his like some of his behavior i'm like okay
well that's not okay
yeah yeah yeah but then some of the way she talks to him i'm like well you know you we can understand
they're just in a cycle where it's like you guys it's never it's it's unless there's like a two
week inpatient like couples counseling like you're not gonna get to the bottom of this
and this is just overall like a comment not again not a new one but a comment on reality television
or like documentary
filmmaking just non-fictional non-narrative there's cameras around for a long period of time
yeah so on traitors just to just to rebut sarah sherman it's like yeah people are going to act
crazy and say you're being evil because the cameras are rolling for like 14 hours a day
like you're going to start act you're going to start behaving within the world of the show in a
particular way that's why housewives
act out on these on these shows on these trips that's why drag race girls like start to like
you know like spin out when like things don't go their way it's like the behavior human behavior
under observation like that is is bound to like collapse it's it wears itself out and erodes
so quickly you know what i mean and i know that we kind of understand that culturally but i don't
think we fully realize like i have to be reminded of that if you're watching kyle and amanda like
sort of start to fray at the edges i'm like and i'm like but they were so fun and can't i'm like
oh right because it's like of course yeah because we're not watching a documentation of this that's
then edited for narrative but it's just i don't know it's there's the whole rest of the season
and then they have the show in the city so i'm like wondering how that develops out but i it's
i am watching the show and i'm like i'm falling into the thing of like i'm like oh i could be
friends with all them like it i in a way that i never really was with vanderpump rules i with
vanderpump rules i was kind of just like okay these you know these people doing these things
these creatures acting like this towards each other but with summer house i'm kind of like i
feel like a little parasocial towards it to the point where i'm like okay i gotta watch vacation
and also there's like there's like it it's even more voyeuristic like i get it now in a way that
i was like oh i don't know why i watch bravo if it isn't like you know middle-aged women plus
but now i do get it but vanderpump it's like oh jackson james and like no these i'm like i would
never be around these people whereas it's not the same with kyle and i feel like the popular thing
right now is to like totally
dunk on kyle no but i'm sorry like i do understand what kyle is saying a lot of the time like talking
about like you know of course on face value like him being out djing when amanda has said for years
like i don't want you out doing that like i want you to prioritize being home with me less drinking
etc but then him giving the shade that like it's something he's had to do professionally because
lover boy is having a tough moment and he gets paid to go do this stuff and it's easy money
like that does that doesn't mean that he's not going to do it because he's not going to do it
he does create a new shade to it however by the same token if she's asking for one thing and she's
not getting her one thing and then you're going to turn around on her and say she smokes too much
weed it's like dude you can't go there it's like she's living her fucking life the way she wants to
that's different from like james kennedy like being violent you know god yes no like i would
argue that summer house is a bunch of complicated dynamics but none of them are bad people right like
on other shows there are full-blown bad people existing and yeah it's funny when you not because
now you see like they get one opportunity to cut someone from some of these shows and they're like
bye because we don't want to deal with your yeah bullshit but summer house is like i really do
feel like one of the reasons why it's a great show is because i get wherever one is coming from
in a way that i think is more interesting to watch because you can actually have a discussion
you can actually play devil's advocate here because
there are no devils yeah that's great i love that man's advocate
complicated person advocate yeah well i think it's time i think it's time um i'm looking down
on my list i did make a list of topics here i just want to shout out just because i haven't
said it on the podcast yet at the end of the tokyo trip we all just we all discussed our highs
of the trip and i just wanted to share my high with the readers which is that i got to do the
last ever jaws ride in university
and i'm going to post pictures from it i haven't um posted any pictures from tokyo yet because it's
honestly been so like i was like there's so many pictures here and also i'm trying to take the
importance out of posting about it i've just been enjoying the fact that i went on it but i did want
to share with everyone who's been following along from the beginning that i did reconnect with in
many ways the culture that made me say culture was for me which was the jaws fucking ride which
was done by
a legend an amazing skipper she was you've you've had female skippers before we had a female skipper
i had never had a female skipper in all of my life
It was my years in Universal Orlando.
So we go to Osaka.
I'm like, oh my God, we have a female skipper.
I'm like, she's about to pull out a gun.
She pulls out a fucking gun.
She did the whole thing.
She was giving acting.
She was giving eye, small eye acting.
She was screaming, firing,
just feeling that fire on our face.
No, they were doing the pyrotechnic effect still
from my childhood.
Going into the boathouse, hearing the score,
watching that fish pop out of the water.
I mean, it just gave me everything.
It was so healing and I needed it badly.
And it gave me such joy.
And so that happened.
And I have to say, if you're a fan of this culture,
it might not be over for us
because there's light, light, light, light, light rumors
that it could potentially be possible.
Like, this is wish fulfillment really,
but that it could come back to Universal in Orlando
because they're going to knock down
that horrible Fast and Furious supercharging.
You know, that god-awful Fast and Furious ride
in Universal in Orlando?
It's like where the bus, like, lines up with?
Yes, yes.
It's terrible.
So they're knocking it down
because they're putting a Fast and Furious rollercoaster in
that's replacing the Rip Ride Rocket.
So now there's that whole area
that they could do something with.
And I was watching this video the other day.
I'm back on Lexapro and on my bullshit on YouTube,
which is, like, watching the. Like, theme park construction.
And they were saying that there's a possibility
they could knock it down and recreate the Jaws ride.
But it's never going to happen.
But I'm just going to continue to put it into the atmosphere
because of what I just experienced in Universal in Japan.
Like, it was so good and we all got off of it
and it was by far our favorite thing
because it was, like, practical and fun and stupid and narrative
and it had a live actor, which rocked.
The live actor, I think, was the thing that really. was the binding.
Yes.
Like, it just. She made you go,
oh, thank God that wasn't just a screen.
Or thank God that wasn't, like. Yeah.
You know?
Because that's what Universal was.
I know.
That's what was so cool about that theme park
in contrast to all the Disney parks back in the day
was that you had, like, live participants
in the attractions that interacted and interfaced with you
that made you feel, again,
the slogan was. initially, ride the movies.
And so, it put you in. Yes.
Because you had a proxy. Exactly. the actual environments.
And that was a lot of the attractions,
whereas now, you know, it's different.
But that was what I loved and appreciated about it so much
and I felt like a boy again.
Oh, my God.
I love that.
I enjoyed it so. I wouldn't say equally as much
because it just had a different emotional valence for you,
but I really. I was like, oh, yeah.
This is what I love about theme parks.
It was so fun.
Every one.
Yes, even you.
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Acted friendly.
He talked friendly.
He sounded friendly.
And they said,
maybe she'll find out where this girl is.
I saw him violent.
Backhanded her.
Pow!
But obviously,
I've met the devil.
And he's real.
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I'm former U.S. And we'll discuss the game that brought us together
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I was like,
no, I don't want to do it.
You said no?
I played with players that didn't,
I don't think they did.
I don't think that they really, truly loved the game.
I'm going to go get some reps
and I'm going to learn it and love it and embrace it.
Okay, this is I Don't Think So Many.
This is where we take one minute
to rail against something in culture.
Matt, do you have something?
I do.
I'm going to be returning to the Wuthering Heights of it all
because there's an unsung part of it.
And I believe she's an unsung part of culture.
And I want to talk about this.
Hung Chow?
Oh my gosh.
This is. Okay, no, it's not Hung Chow.
But Hung Chow is great in this movie.
But I feel like everyone already knows Hung Chow is great.
Of course, of course.
Like Oscar nominee, et cetera.
I'm going to call out someone else who I've mentioned before.
Okay, this is Matt Rodgers.
I Don't Think So Many's time starts now.
I Don't Think So Many,
that this name is not on the tip of tongues.
Alison Oliver.
So she is in this movie, Wuthering Heights.
She's also in Saltburn.
She's the sister Venetia in Saltburn.
And in this movie, in Wuthering Heights,
she plays Isabella, who's. The ward of the dude that Margot Robbie marries for wealth.
She is like, imagine like Anna Paquin, but like cracked.
Like she's essentially doing clownery in this movie in many ways.
She gets into a BDSM relationship with Jacob Elordi,
which is really insane to watch.
She barks like a dog and crawls on the floor.
She has it right behind the eyes.
She's a nut.
And I love this actress.
And she was so different and incredible in Saltburn.
She had that. She had that bathtub scene in Saltburn that was so good.
She's got. She eats this movie up.
This is. I really like this movie.
She's my favorite thing about it.
Five seconds.
And I need her cast in more things
because it's really just Emerald putting her in a lot of shit.
More, more, more of this actress, Alison Oliver.
Oh, that's one minute.
I love it.
I love that Emerald's muses are Jacob and this queen in Alison Oliver.
No, she was great in Saltburn.
I'm telling you, her performance is my favorite in the movie
because it's as crazy. Crazy as everything else happening.
And Anna Hosnier, our producer, says she's really good in the show Task.
I still love her in Task.
See, I didn't even know what that is.
And I didn't know much about her, but I saw that she was in this.
And I'm like, oh, that's the actress that I really liked from Saltburn.
And now I think I have to adopt her.
How old is she?
How old is she?
No, you know what?
I actually know.
She's 28.
Yeah, Alison Oliver.
Let's see.
She's 28.
She's 28.
And 5'7".
And her boyfriend is Josh O'Connor.
Oh, my God.
How gagged are you for that?
I love that man.
And Anna says she was at the SNL after party.
I did corner her.
Oh, okay.
So I'm not the only person on this train.
So it does feel like there should be a moment to celebrate her.
I can't believe. She might even get a culture award nomination.
She might get a culture award.
I might have even said hello.
to her as
well and i spaced um what a great couple you know what though she looks way different in person than
she does in either of these roles which is another reason why i really like her because
you look at a red carpet photo of her and you're like that's not but that is that is but that is
well you must adopt i i think i'm adopting this this person seven years younger than me
okay bone yang do you have an i don't think so honey i believe so yes okay this is bone
yang's i don't think so honey it's time starts now i don't think so honey gummies i think we've
gone too far with them as a vessel as a delivery system you're a grown-up take the pill you can
swallow a pill it doesn't have to come in gummies okay you can take the melatonin in a pill you can
take the melatonin in a pill you can take the melatonin in a pill you can take the melatonin
in a pill because this is what happens when you put a bunch of crazy shit in a gummy it starts
it starts to taste like shit leave gummies alone keep them handy don't don't put a bunch of stuff
in them i'm even gonna gonna say don't even put weed in them don't even put shrooms that don't
even put drugs in a gummy because you're a grown-up teen you have to walk through
the crucible of your choices and you cannot infantilize yourself five seconds making these
things that are adult consumables and putting them in candy and in a childlike delivery system
and that's one minute peek behind the curtain there's too many shapes there's too many shapes
there's too many animals that's good for candy it's not okay for for things that like you we
might need for our joints all right let's not play let's
not play and also it's like grow up and swallow the pill swallow the pill and guess what cut it in
half cut it in half go pour yourself a glass of water i'm sure you can hydrate more as well
yeah i'm sure i'm sure that you don't need to keep so many i don't know it's just like
someone's gonna like send an errand dm be like i have a disease where i can't swallow so
you guys need just please
it's okay then put it up your butt that sounds put it up your butt kind of does i i did want to
just peek behind the curtain um we have an episode coming out with monet exchange next week that we
already recorded and i do and i don't think so honey about something you mentioned oh i'm i
spoiled well no can we can we bleep that out bleep it out but don't cut it did you put that in a gummy
did you take that it was in a gummy it was in a gummy i don't think it would have been better if
it was in a pill
in terms of my experience but at least it wouldn't have offended you but i did want to come out and
say i had been using blank gummies i'm not blaming you no but i had a bad experience because it
didn't taste good i didn't feel good in the morning and also another thing is when these
things get hot they will get all gushy oshy together i've said gushy so many times this
i know gushy really has been like gushing out of me gushy is it the same as gushy gushy
gushy gushy who knows gushy is the title of this episode g-u-s-h-y gushy gushy gushy
house of gushy things we didn't get to today harry styles aperture i love it excited for his new era
um grammys best new artist goes to olivia dean and jfk and carolyn america love story did you
see that viral clip of his
big dong you were telling me about this i you just been playing video games i've been playing
video games we're gonna find out if that's a real dong we're gonna find out they want us
asking the question i think you would like final fantasy 10 i think because i think just
hearing you talk about story it's one of the best stories in all of and we talk about it with monet
and i kind of sat there and like let my sisters really rally it's a great episode with monet
and for now by the way i just want to end this by saying oscar for charlie xdx from weathering heights
i'm not kidding give her the oscar for chains of love love that support okay we end every episode
with a song
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Key Points:
Injectable PREP options vary, and individuals should consult their doctor to find the best fit based on lifestyle and health needs.
The podcast highlights the importance of asking specific questions about medication, injection reactions, and personal routines when considering PREP.
A discussion on the emotional and psychological toll of current global events, including the Epstein files, emphasizes the need for empathy and mental well-being.
The hosts express a desire for escapism through art, film, and video games as a way to cope with overwhelming realities and emotional strain.
The film *Wuthering Heights* is praised for its bold, stylized portrayal of trauma and romance, aligning with themes of emotional intensity and body exploration.
The podcast features a range of cultural topics, from music and fashion to reality TV, reflecting on how media shapes perceptions and emotional responses.
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The hosts emphasize the importance of personal boundaries, mental rest, and digital detox as essential practices for emotional resilience.
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This podcast blends personal storytelling with cultural critique, addressing both practical and emotional topics. com. The discussion expands into broader societal concerns, such as the emotional toll of high-profile scandals like the Epstein files, where the hosts express deep concern about how such content normalizes trauma and triggers distress in vulnerable audiences.
They advocate for compassion, mental rest, and emotional boundaries, noting that the world’s current climate is overwhelming and depleting. The hosts highlight the role of art and media—like the film *Wuthering Heights* or the music of Charlie XCX—as forms of escape and emotional relief, offering catharsis through dramatic, stylized storytelling. Other segments explore fashion (Quince’s ethical, affordable essentials), reality TV (including the Tyra Banks documentary), and pop culture (Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl performance).
Throughout, the tone balances personal reflection with broader cultural commentary, emphasizing emotional resilience, self-care, and the need to protect mental well-being in a hyper-stimulated, often dark, world. The podcast concludes by urging listeners to prioritize their mental health, find meaningful distractions, and approach difficult topics with empathy and self-awareness.
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