Grilled or Fried?

Good evening, gentle listeners or watchers and welcome to "Destractable" this episode. Brutal Barbe, Black's murderous comedy, explains the law, then asks the ultimate culinary query, "Morlin' Mark reports on SCP and DCP, 'Til Secrets of Tallow, then F-bombs. Where Wolf Wade goes dogging at night and draws fight o to his door, panseer sandwiches and loves meat, from podcast member berries to killing grandma. It's time for grilled or fried. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show." Welcome back to another episode of "Destractable". The podcast that John Lithgaugh once heard some random stranger and public laughing about as they walked past him. John Lithgaugh. John Lithgaugh's heard laughter that we made. That a true story. It's gotta be true at this point, right? He gets around, he's out there, he's near people, and people listen to us. He allegedly gets around, let's not. I'm sure John Lithgaugh goes lots of places. Oh, that way, okay. Anyway, welcome back to another episode of "Destractable". I'm your host, because I can't stop winning. My name's Bob, and I am joined by my two competitors for today, slash co-hosts, if they are able to win this episode, Mark and Wade. I'm the other one. I'm standing. Ooh, I'm not gonna do that. I know I join you oftentimes, but I've still nursing my foot. Although it is mostly better. This is now just an excuse to be lazy. If you've ever seen the show before, I'm the host. I'm gonna give points. The winner hosts the next one. That's pretty much the only rule that matters, because we can't remember the rest of them. There's a whole list of rules, and they're very complicated and interesting, and funny sometimes, but we don't. There's a Google Doc somewhere that has the original write-up, I think. We don't have to worry about that, though. We don't actually use that. It would be way back there. Oh, look at all these ad reads. Oh, good. Are you looking for, like, the original document we made? That was like the script, the opening script thing. Yeah. Oh, wow. The thing we use never, and then proceeded to ignore for the rest of time. Yeah. Oh, I got it. It's right here. Wait, is this? What the fuck? What are we digging up in your Google Drive? It's weird, because it's like it's transcript of. Okay, here's what it says. Hello, and welcome to Distractable. Here we discuss anything that interests us and compete to see who can bring the most captivating stories to the table. Whoever brings the most interesting story as judged by me will be declared the winner of the podcast, and will earn the right to host next week's episode and play the role of Judge. Which is basically what we're saying. Then after that, it says, "In accordance with my incredible, nigh-on, unbelievable, absolute crushing victory on last week's podcast, I am the host for today, and will judge the worthiness of my fellow podcast or stories. I'm joined by Bob Maiscans, capitalized, and Wade Barnes, capitalized. Each title would be made up by the Judge that week. Oh, is this brain story? I will now a lot exactly one minute for a small talk. How are you guys doing? We still have one minute for a small talk? Wow. But then immediately after this, don't need a hard, fast limit for a small talk. Just need to keep a brief, but allow us to banter a bit before we start. Maybe air some grievances. Time's up. Her International Distractable Standard Stories will be judged primarily on the content of said stories. However, bonus points may be word for things like creative titles, originality, how much I like that person bribery, how much I like that person's bribe, and pretty much whatever I feel like, because I am the judge. This theme for this week is road trips. Wow. Well, no wonder we landed a minute for a small talk. The intro takes 20 minutes. Oh, the titles. I forgot about the titles. Oh, my gosh, we used to put titles on our stories. Oh, yeah. Wade, you apparently had the blood as darkest just before the dawn, and I apparently had scientists have discovered extra days coming from Uranus. And that was, wow. Good, good times. Good times. There's a lot of ideas here, too. Yeah, we used to tell a lot more personal stories than we realized we only had like 50 stories. And they did that for 10 episodes. We were pretty used up. Is that transportation? No. What episode is that camping? I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea. It might just be examples we came up when we were actually brainstorming. That's crazy, man. There's an actual transcript that for some reason I have of the anything goes episode 60. No idea why. Just a straight-up transcript. It looks like a transcript. It's got Baldemort and beginning, it's got me saying host, you responding. It's got us delineated by our usernames. We actually had a plan for the show at one point. That's weird. Five years ago on this podcast was the first time we talked about how a weight is the king of meat. I can't believe that that was then the first 20 episodes of the show. That's still a very quoted thing. People, I mean people, they're like, it's an honor to meet the king of meat. And I'm like, you know, I ate a bit less than I used to. You don't, though. We were at a steakhouse this past weekend. I stopped whenever everyone else did. You looked so disappointed when the last guy at the table turned his over and you were like, I did say I would stop when everyone was done. I did stop. Dramatically, maybe. If a guy had walked in with Piccata on a sword, you would have immediately been like, I'm going to eat some more. Well, you know, it's Schrodinger's Picagna. We'll never know because it never came in. Oh, yeah, Piccata. Oh, yeah, Piccata. I say Piccata. That's food. Piccata. Piccata, Piccata, yeah. Pops, sirloin, chicken, chicken, Piccata. We haven't delivered right now. What a historical moment, historical in that it's old, not in that it is important or meaningful. But historical in the context of us. Do we have any recordings of the versions of the show we did that we ended up not using the concepts? Do we record those or do we just like fuck around a lot? I can't even. We recorded them because hair was originally one of the ones we didn't know that would make it. And then hair, we like, ah, we like that. Let's go with that. That's why hair is the first episode. It was like the 15th of 10th, but it was the one we were, the first one we were like, yeah, that seems like a good, good one. I don't know. It would be, I mean, we record everything went up, but we did streams of kind of assessments. No, we didn't. We had to because some of the stories I think were taken from those episodes and saved. Yeah, we rehashed some of them, I think. Wasn't you Russian bathhouse story one of the ones that was originally? I think that was. I think you're right. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's true. That's a good story. Ah, good times. Well, anyway, that's all old news. Everything's better now, more streamlined, more well-defined, honed to a razor's edge of pure murderous comedy. Just like everybody likes. Yeah. Well, I'll allow as much time for small talk as we want. How are you guys doing this week? Oh, pretty good. I don't know, Mark, do you have something? I got something. I don't know if you got something. I got something, but I was talking about the ancient history, so you go, you go next. Or first. Bob and I were both at a wedding this week, and Bob officiated it really well. He did a great job. Thanks. Molly and I had to come home. Her surgery, as of the recording of this, is like two days from now. And she has to take like protein shakes and certain increments or something before the surgery. So she didn't take a protein shake. And we did a little bit of house cleaning because her mom's coming to stay with us to look after her after her surgery. And then I hopped on war dogs. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to play some more war dogs. And I had a great time, played till like two in the morning, two thirty in the morning. And I was like, oh, man, I better get ready for bed. Shut down my office, turn off the lights, head upstairs, get ready to get into bed. And I hear like voices kind of like quiet voices, but here voices, as I'm getting into bed. And then we have a camera. So I looked at our camera and there are three people and a dog walking around our house. And I'm like, that's a weird occurrence at three thirty now in the morning. What is happening? Why are there, they have flashlights? Oh, they're wearing police vests. I've seen this movie once before. Am I living through another drug bust? Am I kidding, swatted? What is happening? So I crawl out of bed. I go and I'm looking at the camera, trying to see if I can make out what they're saying. I really can't. So I look up a non-emergency police hotline. So I crawl on the, I'm sitting on the stairs. Like, how come one of the stairs? And I call the non-emergency police hotline. I'm like, hello. Yeah, I'm calling. There's people outside my house. They have a dog. They have police vests outside. Like, is something happening? And they're like, sir, what's your address? Oh, I live, I give my address. Hmm. Well, you called the city of Cincinnati what you need is. And they told me the specific thing I need to call and they transferred me. And then I was on the call when they called. Yeah. So this guy called, there's people in his yard. He's worried about it or something. This is for you. You guys can handle it. I was like, I can hear you guys. I'm ready. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What can we do for you? I just want to know. Here's my address. There are people. Yeah. It's not for you. Don't worry about it. Oh. Okay. That doesn't feel like enough explanation at all. Yeah. I eventually found out what it was about. I'm going to keep it a little bit more brief. I don't want to dox myself. But it was very strange. It was very strange waking up and not waking up. But like, try to get ready for bed. Were you in any amount of danger with whatever they were looking? Or was it just they were just looking for something? There was a thing they were looking for. We were fine. But like, they approached the house at a time when I had just shut off all the lights. Which had to have looked such as hell at three in the morning for them to be like. All right. We're going to go see if there's anything light out, light out, light out, light out. Hmm. Interesting. And they did like full loops around the house. Like they walked right up to our door and stuff. Like I really thought. I really thought something was happening to us. But thankfully not I don't like that. I wouldn't I would not have enjoyed that very much at all Yeah, cuz there was just a guy wearing like a big like orange like he was not came a flage to any way shape or for me It was very much I'm standing out and I'm the person who holds the dog and then they were like two police officers Trailing behind with flashlights, so they were they were tracking something someone Thankfully, it was not us. It just very strange and the timing of me literally going upstairs and shutting off the lights than all of a sudden Outside the window was like wait hold on. That's not the wind, right? What is that and my might have been you got that talking wind I've had that before look any game. I've ever played the guards are always like must have been the wind Well, I get it. I used to be a wind like them till I took an arrow to the ass You play different games in me. You got you got different to different suggestions coming up Waits wait steam library is 90% porn porn parodies of real video games. Yeah, I play the new steam games I've been behind the times for so long. I was like, you know what the new up-and-coming steam games is ones. I should play he was lying He didn't get on war dogs. He got on raw dogs Different experience entirely where we drop in boys We may have rehearsed this just before we put record Rehearsals are strong. We're may have discussed this and then it recorded. Wade was testing some stuff out Anyway, that's more that's not the kind of small talk. I was gonna. I was expecting that's weird Well, I'm glad you didn't end up getting shot or going to jail. That's good. Same me too. Yeah, that would have been a real bummer But in such circumstances there is a non-emergency hotline You can call to get information and they may judge you for calling, but they will give you some info That I do feel like that's obvious to me, but that's an import. Yeah, that's an important thing to know You should probably look up what the non-emergency Lines are for like emergency services in here. It's good to have police fire department stuff I think it's a second or third time. I've had to call before because we thought we had a ghastly one time when we called and then I had People acting strange valuable info because when you have people with a dog circling your house is not the moment You want to be on Google and be like, oh, that's the next town over. Oh, not a burglary. I can't type Wow, my ass isn't Eddie. Yeah, it was an interesting wedding night Puzzle tough mark. How's your house? You're talk the world of SCPs in turmoil For those of you don't know SCP stands for secure contain protect the SCP wiki has been a repository of numerous stories horror and Otherwise that I have talked about at length played games of that are about that and people know of Before the back rooms occurred. It was it was the SCP foundation from the very beginning and There is apparently a movie being made about the SCP foundation that was Initially brought up by a company called v/h/s Which I'm not familiar with too much of their stuff. It was founded in 2012 And it's like a found footage horror anthology film and then there's a franchise. That's about it It's complicated because there's they've had numerous releases that are all under the vhs moniker and so vhs SCP is apparently the next thing that they're going to be making and 824 is recently And now that they're going to be also involved in either the distribution or the production thereof However, neither of these organizations and no one involved in the production thereof has contacted the scp foundation or Anyone on the scp wiki or any of the authors behind the original works for those that don't know SCP foundation material is protected by the creative commons attribution share like license Which means it lasts for the production of derivative works whether commercially or otherwise subject to certain Restrictions the share like aspect means that creators of derivative works are obligated to release those works under the creative commons Attribution share like license scc or cc BY slash sa3.0 or later Many fans have created adaptations the original product by utilizing the rights granted by our license including unofficial scp's cartoons Traumatic readings and more a 24 spooky pictures and other involved companies would be able to legally distribute the film to theaters Streaming online provided they released it under the acc BY sa3.0 or license or later Which means they would not be prevented to distribute it with any DRM or any effective technology that would prevent it from being copied They would not be able to establish any sort of exclusive exclusivity with respect to distribution Just as anyone who falls a license can redistribute and create derivative works based on the scp foundation articles on their wiki Anyone will be able to do the same with their film For example, you could take their film then re-edited or just upload it in its entirety to your youtube channel And they cannot do anything about it. There will be any commercial streaming service would require the the movie be free to stream Because if they don't do any of this they lose the license to it They lose the ability to make anything so if they they as these production companies Guaranteed will try would try to put some protections on it and they won't be able to and would therefore lose the license and therefore would not Be able to make the material about the scp foundation. So what you're trying to say is it's our movie comrade Yes, exactly as soon as it gets out it would be everyone's movie to to make and redistribute as they need so long as it's under the same license That's that's the whole thing about it. Is there any Discussion about this that they're trying to go or not follow those rules or anything Or is it just the obvious fear that because clearly these companies are producing this movie in an effort to make money As is the way that they function then they will clearly probably seek out the rm stuff and and try and treat it like it's copyrighted work Even though that's not how that license works. Yes, exactly. That would be the tricky part of it a 24 They want to sit down with a 24 spooky pictures and VHS and other parties to discuss options How they could make and distribute the film while complying with the license But they haven't they haven't reached out to anybody they haven't reached out to them They have no idea what they're planning to do with it But given that they this is traditional movie companies that don't have any usual methods to not do it in this way There is no guarantee that they would ever Honor it and they're probably maybe counting on the fact that the SCP foundation is not exactly wealthy and therefore They wouldn't have the legal means to fight it. You said a lot of things and I got the gist of it I kept thinking of the Guardians of the galaxy Kurt Russell Peter quills mom moment where she's like, I don't know what you're saying, but I lack the way you say it Yeah, a lot of accurate VHS DRM MSRP you know, that's it. That's it. It's the same way as like with with the backrooms, right So the backrooms was not created under this license the backrooms the original creator who the fuck knows who that is and backroom Tim backroom what they did was they created a copyright around cane Parsons Interpretation of the backrooms and therefore that's that's what they were going for This does not apply in this scenario They would not be able to create a separate copyright for anything that they would make about the SCP It has to be under the creative commons attribution chair like license has to be I'm gonna be fun to see what happens when this comes out It will be interesting, but everyone just be prepared to help defend the SCP wiki because if they did manage to convince some I don't know legal organization to fight and create a copyright they could then in turn Turn around and try to take down the SCP wiki or something That's probably sensationalizing a little bit, but I could see it. It happened with the backrooms when they were trying to like Suddenly they were trying to take down other people's projects Maybe inadvertently you're as part of the you know, just the automated system But you know they tried it and there was backlash about it and they they had to sue it It cannot be assumed that they have the goodwill of the people in mind when they're doing this sort of stuff So there has to be some kind of guardrails and people ready to defend it I think yeah, well and as a complete outsider, but as a person who Aided very loose general way understand how businesses work I'm not even sure that the production companies and people who are going to try and sell this movie and want to make money off of it have Existing mechanisms that they could release it under that would follow and satisfy the creative comments license, right? Movie production companies and generally that process is relatively locked in They have procedures. They all have strict rights that they they require to like that company holds That's that's part of the agreement or they're not going to produce the movie like I again knowing none of the actual internal Details of this I just find it hard to believe that they're going to comply with the creative comments license fully or or you know in a way that will satisfy which just means like this is an inevitable Crash and I hope I hope that some legal support like nonprofit or you know some law firm will do some pro bono work or do something on conflict I hope that there are legal professionals who are ready to help because it's insanely expensive if you look into any of the Like individual youtubers have given a lot of info about when they've had to deal with lawsuits Especially around like copyright stuff for other issues Insanely expensive and I would be shocked if the scp wiki or like whatever entity has Promotely enough money to put up a meaningful fight at all if a big Company decided they were going to try and take this copyright. They were just going to do it. They're going to do it To make money on things so this is all Theoretical, but also it feels like that's an unavoidable outcome of what's happening based on what you're describing, which is crazy, yeah, it's one of the reasons to think that you could be like, oh, they'll do something differently is like, no, not necessarily because the inherent mechanisms to get movies out to theaters require you to send them to most theaters ADCP, which is a digital cinema package and that inherently has DRM in it because it's usually tied with a key. The delivery message, a KDM that is tied to the specific projectors at the theater it's being played at inherently using the distribution method that movies are in America at least done with would violate the terms of the license. Therefore they couldn't do that. They could send an MP4 to the theaters and say, hey, here, put this on your projectors, they could send an MOV, you know, I don't think they could send a DCP. I don't think they could. If you're out here 2004 iPod and you can watch this movie pretty much, yeah, can you guys do a USB 2.0 flash drive? Does that work? I just put that in the projector or how is that? Yeah, no, I'm sure that'll be fine. I'm sure that there are no huge warps coming from that. We could find out what's going on. We could disguise ourselves as someone named like speckless spin and go into the movie production, try to see what's going on and see if we can get their legos or I see if we can figure out where the license is. You should do that. I would watch that. I don't have the hair. I feel like you have to have a good amount of hair for that. So we can go get up with a great wake maker. A lot of Legos are bald. You mean SCPs? I think you said Legos, you said Lego. I was misspeed. I was parodying the reckless spin Lego thing where you know, huge what's going on with reckless bit. Like my ID was like 50 different. Yeah, so it's like we just need that to happen for the SCP foundation is last on to the Lego. As one does they latch on to you if you step on them. Anyway, just wanted to raise awareness for this so people could know and this statement was put up at the SCP foundation like it would be last week as of this recording, which would have been about maybe a week and a half ago when people see this. So lawyers out there watching this get your bono pills ready to range to get it up for the SCP foundation. Well, that's interesting. Not the good kind of interesting, but it's very interesting. I see a lot of people were really mad about the Resident Evil movie. Apparently, and then it came out and apparently a lot of people really liked the Resident Evil movie. There's a lot of controversy around that one too. So hopefully SCP and the movie work it out and then it comes up to good movie. That'd be nice. Yeah, that'd be fine. I have a game and it's a good game. A beautiful game. A simple game involves a coin. You're not your coins. Just my coins. It might not be the most fair game. So it might involve all of our coins at some point. Oh my goodness. Today's game is called grilled or fried. Oh, I'm so hungry. Oh good. I'm glad this is perfect. We're going to be discussing whether certain foods sure are better served grilled or fried. And they're the best foods that the most delicious foods. And the point of all of this is to ultimately decide which is the superior cooking method. And I think a lot of people hear that and might have their answer ahead of time. And I think we've got some interesting discussions ahead that may change your mind about some of this. We're going to talk about some foods and then we're going to decide at the end, which is the clearly superior method. And one more thing. Each round, each new food item and for the final round of deciding. You will be randomly assigned which cooking method you have to choose and you will have to advocate or whatever food. It is to be cooked in whatever way you have been assigned. Okay. That will start off pretty easy. We'll use into this. But we're going to go some places and I'm curious who's going to win the debate. Stop saying salmon. What? I was done with my brain. I really wanted some salmon. I could add salmon if you want to my belly. Yes. Wait his heads, which is the lady. Marcus tails, which is the lion. I'm going to flip at it for each new one. I'm just going to flip and whoever comes up, they are going to be fried. The other person is going to be grilled for the first round. We're going to be talking about chicken. All right. And on the side of grilled will be weighed. Wow. Who's going first? I mean, Mark, you can go first. Okay. All right. Fried chicken is obviously superior in so many ways because you can get it original. You can get extra crispy. You can get some weird pressure cooked fried version of it. You can get the Korean fried version, which actually I feel is vastly superior because it's double fried. And everyone knows when you fry something twice, it's twice as good. Oh man, there's no more satisfying a feeling than ripping the skin off of a fried chicken and just crunching down on that bad boy. You can season it with whatever you want. You can slather it in whatever you want. Every goodness that way could possibly say about his grilled chicken also applies to fried chicken because all those flavors come right back to me in the fried corner. So there's literally no way that he could possibly say it would be better. And I will end it with saying if you took a grilled chicken patty and then fried it, it would be better strong argument. Thank you very passionate about the fried chicken. Wade, you've selected grilled chicken against your will. He was talking about fried chicken. Where did that lead him back to me? He couldn't get grilled out of his mouth out of his mind because he knew grilled was the way to go. Look, I'm not going to lie fried chicken pace delicious. It's very, very good. But if you've fried something in your kitchen at a deal with a smell and the mess of fried and the fried oils and stuff all over the place, it's kind of messy, kind of stinky lingers. And fried's a lot less good for you as a person who loves fried food, health wise, there's a lot of things you don't want to eat there. Whatever you think of like a perfect day about you for me, I think of like a beautiful summer day where you can go outside in the deck, like grill out and hang out with friends and grill out is the key ingredient here because grilling your chicken, grilling your, you know, love the ear of corn, having like some nice fruits and vegetables. What a beautiful meal. And the reason I'm a big part of it is the grill. The grill is outside. So all of your stink and mess stays out there. The food comes out. It is absolutely delicious. A nice juicy piece of grilled chicken with like some barbecue sauce or insert whatever kind of sauce you want to use here. I really could go for some barbecue chicken right now. And Mark even said, you know it's really good. If you grill chicken, then fry it. The first part that was still using the grill. I don't have to fry my grilled chicken or grill my fried chicken. I'm just going to grill. It's so good. So juicy and better for you. Less mess, less smell. Very good points, Wade. Thank you. Mark wins. Yeah. I had a rebuttals prepared and everything. You almost got me, but you kept mentioning how healthy it is. And I gotta say that's not a strong selling point on when I'm looking to just absolutely enjoy the shade out of some food. But day to day when I'm making my choices in life, I care about how healthy something. I wasn't established as a parameters. Okay, let's assume we're just like, man, it's a great. We're celebrating something. What are we going to eat? And is it going to be grilled or fried? I did change the rules on you, which is something that I'm not going to say. Oh, go on. Go on. Say it. Coward. It's not my call to make. The next food we're going to talk about is steak. Mark, you get fried again. Easy. And wait, you can go first. Steak grilled. You go. Look, there's country fried steak, which I've never even had. When you think of a steak in no world is the first thing that comes to mind, breading or fry, the first that comes to mind is the nice charred lines of a grill. You've flipped that steak a couple of times on the grill. You maybe marinade some teriyaki or something to pay what kind it is or you people use their sauces if they need to. A steak off the grill is the way to eat steak. If you're not salivating thinking about it already, I don't know what to say. You've been doing steak incorrectly. I know people that had steak like in the oven. I don't know about fried because that's crazy talk. And they thought they didn't like steak. They had one steak on the grill with me and they were like, oh my God, this is what steak is supposed to be. And the answer is yes, because steak on the grill is the definition of steak period. I have a secret to tell all of you people the best restaurants you've ever been to for steak deep fry their steaks. The latest methods in state. This is not alive. This is not made up. This is actually true in beef tallow. They take steaks that are deeply chilled or even frozen because the temperature gradient is what they're going for. The convective heat conduction of oil transfers heat faster than any other method of cooking a meat. And therefore you get the outside cooked to perfection of that dark brown crust that you want while the inside maintains its medium rare temperature. Which everyone knows is the best way to eat a steak. There's no other temperature really that you should eat a steak at depending of course on how depraved you are. I'm willing to account for certain levels of depravity out there to each their own. But this is this is not made up. There are multiple videos that you can see from top chefs nowadays talking about the method of deep frying steaks and raising them quickly. from a cold temperature because it allows the perfect gradient of crispy like cooked outside to soft juicy interior and as we all know even if they're not doing that they're basting it in butter in the pan which is just trying it in a different container and all all of the best steak houses in the world do this. You know they don't do it at home where steaks are still the best. That's tough. I have to say I'm decent at cooking steaks. I definitely have that feeling where I'm like when I go to a really good steakhouse and I have that man. I wish I could make this at home because you can't because it's tough. It's tough to replicate because I'm not a chef. I didn't think this one was going to be so tough. I thought I knew the answer to this one. You know it in your heart of heart. You know I still have to give it to Wade. Oh thank you Jesus. I think Mark made that a lot closer than I thought it would ever be because that was very interesting information. That was actually it was. And that makes me want to try it except that I don't want to deep fry anything in my house because it's absolute nightmare. Well you don't know you can do the butter base. You can do the butter base messing. I have done that. That is pretty sick. I just really like really. I like like a nice charcoal grill. I like the act of it. That's fair. That's fair. So what's the what's the thing? They bake the steak and then like deep fry or fry it to serious. It's called the reverse the inverse sear method or something. A lot of places will like sous vide the steak up to a temperature or do it in the oven and then finish the outside that they've discovered that if you do it from a deep chill straight into the hottest oil you can it will make a perfect medium rare. And this is not something you could do at home. Legitimately you're right. It's not really something that is accessible. Well especially deep frying in beef tallow is like I don't know where you buy an amount of beef tallow to fill a deep fry or that's nothing. That is also the thing. Oh deep fries are made to handle beef tallow. It also can be dangerous because if you're going from like a frozen steak right in there it could explode. Yeah you have to be careful with the water content. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. I like this. Good job. That was close Mark. That was very good. I'm impressed. Next one hot dog. Mark you can try it again. All right. Sorry. That's all right. You know what? Like I need a coin cam just to be like I'm not it's this is happening. I know it's only three to row. We've gone we've had we've had way better starches than that. It'll be fine. Mark you get to go first this time. I would like to harken you all back to your childhood for this one. Think of the hot dogs you ate when you were just a kid. There was no option to heat them any other way than just on the stove top you had and how did you do that in a pot of water? That's right. You boiled them. You boiled your hot dogs to get them up to temperature because they were already cooked. They don't you don't need to do anything other than then then doing that. Now fast for it. You're an adult sophisticated you guys well off you can afford maybe some prior maybe an air fryer which I think still counts in this regard. You've evolved past boiling but the ingrained concept of surrounding it in some other fluid substance air or otherwise you know is is calling to you more than just the simple boil you're sophisticated you don't want to look too back on your childhood but you want to pay respects where you came from you go into your deep fryer your air fryer to heat up your hot dog because you want the speed you want the efficiency you want that meal ready to go and you're not going to microwave it you it's going to explode everywhere you're going to be goopy I think I think even my opponent can agree that microwaving is not the superior method here I mean it not superior we're all on board can't can't disagree with that right but I think that you can agree that frying is going to offer you that nice crisp bite so that the case in when you're when you're just taking your first bite and it really snaps oh you can only get that from a non-exploded version and I hate to say it the grilled does sometimes explode them does sometimes explode them and also it gets burnt and I don't like the burnt taste what are you how are you so you can explode them you can probably do that if you leave them on the stove too long too I'd imagine but like let's rank the orders of convenience like microwave very convenient probably the worst next putting a pot of water is pretty easy toss a hot dog in there boil it is ready letting up the grill is a bit more work but like the reward the smoky flavor the char marks putting that thing in a bun fresh off the grill putting whatever toppings or you know here since I chilly cheese if you have it on that hot dog the added smoky flavor you get from like a charcoal grill even a propane gruel I imagine some extent I've always done charcoal grills but propane gruel I imagine does a similar thing that added smokiness is is not to be understated and on a hot dog I'm a person doesn't even put stuff on a hot dog unless it's like chili and cheese I don't do mustard onion and all that stuff so the hot dog itself the flavor matters a lot and when that skin has that little bit of like charring to it and that char coley smoke flavor it's so much better than the convenient microwave which I'm guilty of using a lot or even the boil the air fryer those will get it done those don't add the grill ads but the result if you burn it that that's user error don't don't blend the grill yeah that's a close one I have to give that one to wait though yeah I'm not gonna lie grilling is is clearly the superior way to do a hot dog although I will say I microwave all my hot dogs I do I do go to the microwave a lot I do I will say though you know you know I hope you would go for mark that I thought would have bought you some points I would have counted corn dogs as fried hot dogs I thought you were going to go corn dogs as well because corn dogs is a hell of a thing I would consider that yeah slightly different food for that but it's additional states like more it's sort of a recipe with a hot dog in it I bet air fried corn dogs would be really good oh I've done that yeah yeah if you just get like frozen corn dogs from the store and then air fry them next love they they they come out like they're fresh out of the fryer and they're still frozen corn dogs but they're way better I don't know if you can grill a corn dog not gonna lie I don't know if that works yeah that that you can grill corn you can grill but it's like so bready it'd be like toasting it you can grill you can grill corn you can grill a hot dog you have to be able to grill a corn dog right it only makes sense I have a corn I have a dog corn dog next what we're going to talk about is sandwich okay just generally send which is you type out any kind of sandwich on the side of fried will be for the first time wait all right and you get to go first so fried sandwiches wait wow me all right marks already sold you you got the point for fried chicken fried chicken sandwich like a chick blaz sandwich or chicken sandwich in general fried chicken and it's so good on bread oh we already talked about chicken calm down I'm just well yeah bread it's a sandwich I'm talking about the whole sandwich here a fried sandwich you can also deep fry a sandwich you dip that whole thing in batter it's like a deep fried Oreo you can deep fry pretty much anything if you want that batter that crunch on top of just the bread and whatever I guess feelings you want go ahead deep fry that thing a grilled cheese a grilled cheese it counts as fried right you're buttering and putting it on a stove top so that's a fried sandwich a grilled cheese counts as fried excuse me excuse me isn't that weird that if you say that out loud isn't that straight but it is you toss it on the stove you don't toss it on the grill it depends on how you make a grilled cheese the standard grilled cheese is fried yeah I would say that the average grilled cheese is is pan fried sandwich I would say that's accurate that's pan-seared pan-seared maybe toasted if you will I will not I will not relinquish the grilled cheese to being fried it's not a fried grilled cheese it is a grilled cheese it blows my mind too that it's mislabeled but it really is I will declare this if you want I will you want you want to go you want to go bro you want to determine the fate of what a grilled cheese is man go for it you will be double grilled by the time I'm done with this oh yeah you coward do it it would be unfair to call a grilled cheese a fried sandwich all right did the thing I'm glad we're getting this out of the way now yeah yeah exactly yeah all right so fuck oh I got heads okay well triangle of fairness it's on the ground don't over exert yourself wait and I already got heads and tails okay all right okay then while it was tails all right it does all right the lady saved us even with the name we've just confirmed a grilled cheese is typically fried and let me let me do a little side tangent here back in like 2011 2012 uh steak and shake at least the one in milford our hometown they had this thing called the 3d grilled cheese where again they took a hot they took a burger bun flipped it inside out and then fried the outside of it made it like a grilled cheese and then they put like the burger and bacon cheese whatever it was so good that extra little bit of searing on the bread delicious if I'm gonna take the win on grilled cheeses then yeah frying please all right let me win here real quick there is only one thing I need to say for grilling sandwiches that will instantly disarm any argument puny knee press there is only one superior method to adding heat to sandwiches and that is through a Pinnini press and if you will look up all of your Pinnini presses what do they have? Iconic grill lines and all of us who are too poor to afford a proper Pinnini press may do with a George Foreman grill the superior way to make a grilled cheese and let me tell you, those didn't fight all tours of food over in whatever country you want to insert here I'm not naming specifics you know for your various pastramis and whatever in Yadi Yadda's they have their delightful Pinnini presses all of which can do an exact amount of PSI on there to get those those prongs grilled properly and nothing looks better looks better than the aesthetic of a proper Pinnini pressed sandwich whatever type even if even if grilled cheese if the fate decides that that's a fried thing so be it, the world of sandwiches is wider than that of cheese and I say that there are some breads of bread-based foods and there I go so far, a bread of bread-based foods that you can Pinnini press where do you use a Pinnini press on the stove? No, it's a device it's basically a George Foreman but George Foreman is basically a glorified Pinnini press they do a pretty even toasting the Pinnini presses right, that's hard to beat it's a heck of a sandwich it's a heck of a sandwich and oh, you can put any sandwich in there hard to beat but you can't control in the stove over your Christmas and butter amount but like the Pinnini press is very consistent the Pinnini press is like Ron Popeel land you don't need to have control you set it and forget it because it's designed to make exactly what you want you don't have to worry about it and it do I know that may have felt like I was on Mark's side because I was, because Mark clearly won that yeah, thank you, thank you sorry to all the grilled cheese people I really, I fumbled that coin to us real bad I did appreciate that you stole grilled cheese from Mark's grilled argument I thought that that was crafty a grilled cheese is fried what can I say? I mean I have to I have to could see the coins agree onward and upward that's what I say here I have to say about this ice cream grilled or fried on the side of fried will be weighed Mark, you get to go first grilled ice cream all right, no, no, no, no, I got this one on the basis of safety alone whatever scenario this ice cream has made it onto the grill or in the deep fryer there's only one that is the equivalent of a one kiloton bomb that would destroy grandma grandma would be ripped to shreds as the container that was containing the deep fry oil explodes into pieces rip through grandma's tears her in twain ice cream in a deep fryer is both against God and against grandma it is the most dangerous thing to our families our home life our children and it should be banned from every platform possible even uttering the term fried ice cream should be punishable by frying which is the most heinous cooking method and worst way to die honestly being dipped in foil awful just in the side just saying it I withdraw that jury but you heard it right I'm just saying only criminals only criminals would allow this this travesty against nature to occur if it goes on the grill you quickly slap it off there with your spatula because you're so smart so attending to that grill you see it go slap boom rip it off there plop it on plate hey here you go Timmy have a little ice cream soft just the way you like it picture this you can see it all right let's take a look and then you can see it all right Point for deep fry. Also, you ever had deep fried ice cream? (laughing) Oh, Janice Crimmels. - It's so like, you get this frozen ice cream straight out of the freezer. You wrap it in some kind of crust. I don't know, like a crushed cornflake, cinnamon, whatever. it quickly dip it in that deep fry, you pull it out. You have like a warm crunchy exterior, you cut into it, you take a bite, you have the nice still frozen cold ice cream by it with the warm crunchy exterior, whatever topping drizzle you want, whatever flavor ice cream you want. It is such a magical feeling in your mouth. And since grandma is dead, you have all that money to buy more ingredients and more things to eat with. You know, you can have bigger, deep fry, bigger ice cream. More toppings, you want cherries, whipped cream, hot fudge? Those are probably hard to get nowadays 'cause everything is, you can afford them with grandma out of the picture. So, win, win, I say. I'm a grandma list for like 22 years, and here I am having all the fried ice cream I want. Not once was something mentioned that was tasty in your mouth with grilling. This is about the flavor and sensation of eating. The taste of justice will be in your mouth. I learned that whenever I tried to make a healthy argument, and I will use that here in my favor. - Man, I wasn't sure how that was gonna go, but I am glad that I'm not the only part. I feel like no one I know has ever had fried ice cream and fried ice cream is a magical thing. I used to, when I was a kid, we'd go to Chichis, which is a Mexican restaurant, and they used to serve fried ice cream. I thought it was the best shit that ever existed. How many had to die for that ice cream to make it to your plate, huh? I don't know how many cramas were killed by my deep fried ice creams, and I don't care. (laughing) - Start all the grandma's watching, but watch your back. - Well, you both are at points in those explanations, but I do feel like, wait, had a strong point that he was the other one that talked about, actually making and then eating some kind of food in connection to his ice cream. - Listen, Mark's up there and he filled a buster. He did a great job, you know? Oh, that would have been good. Ah, yeah, I looked up grilled ice cream. grilled ice cream sandwich from like, okay, that might have worked. - Oh, that would be good. - In my Pinnini press, we already talked about grilled sandwiches. - I get that one, yeah, that's fair. - I think Mark's gonna have a distinct advantage on this one. I don't know what I, what am I? Have you flipped the coin yet? Do we know who's doing what? - No, no, it doesn't matter because he knows this product well. He knows this company well. - Viobi. - The next food we're gonna talk about is Sour Patch Kids. - Rilled or fried? - Wait, you get fried. - Okay. - And Mark, you get to go first. No wait, wait, you get to go first. Yes, yes. - I think this is pretty common. That whenever people have sweet food, they want salty food. Whenever you have salty food, do you then crave sweet food? Whatever I have a meal, a lot of my meals are kind of probably a bit heavier in sodium than they should be. I always want something like chocolatee or sweet afterward. We could save ourselves the effort having a nice batter with a little bit of salt and pepper mixed in, put your sour patch kit in there, dip it in the deep fry, pull it out, and you have your salty crunchy exterior, and you have your sour sweet candy in the middle. You're just saving yourself time by combining meals and getting sweet and salty into the same thing. It doesn't have the bonus flavor of sour, too, because those do make them. Look up a little bit. Man, are they tasty? And man, just having both meals together, saving yourself time, energy, and getting that punch-of-flavor. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is not an argument about what pairs well with the food in question. It is about what cooking method is best for said food. And I don't say that there is already precedence for with which our patch kids being grilled Might yield superior results, and that is grilled pineapple, grilled peaches, grilled fruit in general has always been enhanced by the grilling process due to the caramelization of said sugars, and no one can deny that sour patch kids are a bevy of flavors of various fruits and contain a bevy of sugar. Therefore, if we were to judge it entirely on which food the one you dropped and had to scrape off the barrel of the deep fryer down at the bottom, crust it over with whatever heinous additions my opponent is adding, or the delightful grill lines on a plate full of grilled sour patch kids, I think we all know which one we're going to choose. How do they make default pouts sour patch kids? I don't know why you asked me like I'd why do you both assume I know so much about you're the you're the expert We have Bob and I both assume isn't there a picture of you made out of Sour Patch kids somewhere in the universe had to throw it away Recently, it started it ants finally found it so it got horrifying. Oh Well, that's not great last about six years, you know, but I was right because Mark had a huge advantage on that one Because he turned into a southern lawyer I got something lawyers had an advantage of this competition obviously the Southern lawyer wins Sour Patch kids just as I would have predicted It's gonna be the ultimate one I'm ready water Grilled or fried gotta open up your fried I hope I do get for it. Mark. It's fried And that really worked out for everybody You had to go first There's a saying where I come from which is have your cake and eat it too. Have you ever wanted to indulge? In the most decadent delights, we all know our fried. Deep fried or otherwise, in fats and oils, always makes it, always superior, right? But you don't want the calories. Oh no, all those deep fries, they always turn out so unhealthy. Let me let you in on a revolution. Water, water is the most pure zero calorie. It's so good for you. It is essential for various bodily functions. And if you deep fry it, you can indulge from a safe distance. You can indulge in your terrible habits of deep frying things and eat your fried water guilt-free. And it cannot be said that there is not evidence that that grilling of water or whatever it is does not introduce carcinogens and the various carbo whatever is that are stuck on those horrifying medieval prongs they call a grill, whereas the clean futuristic technology of clean deep fried water is really leaving us into the future of tomorrow. Do you see it in the future? Wow. Looks like wine. It's rounded by water. And probably they have fries. Oh, definitely. Definitely, yeah. That's at least one glam as a fire. A fire? I imagine one glam as a fire. Oh no, glam is on fire. Sorry, glam. I don't even know if Wade needs to talk. That was just moving. That was near spiritual, but you can go away. Thanks. I feel like I have an equal shot here. Yeah, you're gonna be fine. People have needed water since the dawn of existence. And long before friars, there were fires. Camp fires, grills, whatever have you. Boiling water. Do it right over your campfire. Get like a nice cloth, boil your water. You don't have to have clean water. You go, you boil it. You use like a filter or cloth or something. You can dump it into another potter pan to clean out your impurities. And right there, your water. Rest and ready to go for whatever you want to do with it. Drink it, cook more things in it. It's clean, it's grilled. Oh, you want to do more with your water. You want a nice smoky flavor with your water? Well, put in your nice grill water container. You know what I'm talking about. Don't pretend you don't. And you put it over the grill. You get a nice smoky water flavor. You want some of this little hickory chips to soak your water in? You don't have to put meat or something else in there to cook. You just take the water itself after it's been hickory. So toss it on the grill, cook it up. You got some nice hot water. You want to tell the kids there in trouble, say they're in hot water now. What better water than the water fresh off the grill? You don't want to put the kids in fried water. That's worse for them. I know we're not talking about health here, but even the kids will pace better off the-- What are you doing by making? You're killing it. Don't stop. Water! Grill the water. Not children. All right, I feel like half of his argument wasn't about grilling a water, but you know, I'll just let him speak for himself. At least half of it was, let him speak. That's a tough one. I have to say, Mark, I was hoping you would go for-- you need batter to fry stuff, and batter needs water to work sort of angle. Is that true? Yeah, batter-- I mean, often it has like beer or something else in there, or like tempura batter is like sparkling water or tonic water, depending on how-- Some batter's just like eggs and flour. I'm a fry versus grill pure tin. I focus solely on the ingredients. That's all I do. Now, if I go with my gut, I have to give it to Wade. He was in favor of not grilling children, and he had some really useful things he could do with water. Oh, yeah, but he was most of it was about boiling it. I don't even know what the-- I don't even know what the grill container is supposed to reflect. Man, if only you could challenge it, Mr. Chalenge. I feel-- I feel a bunch of-- please, come on. He was a rambling, nonsensical, wandering thing of half arguments that wasn't even related to the proper cooking of what it is. Oh, but I wandered into all the right rooms. The only safety warning we got from Mark's side was that you should be in a safety distance. I feel like there was a-- there was more safety required. Well, he said eating children. He mentioned children eating. Oh, he said, he said not-- he said not to, I think. He said children taste better with grilled water. He said that. I hypothetically, they might, but you shouldn't do it. He changed his mind. That's right. I think so, too. If we're not allowed to change our mind, what's done is done. I could go back, but I won't. Subreddit, help! Subreddit, help! All right, well, we've talked about everything. So now we just have to decide which is the superior cooking method, grilling or frying. In favor of frying will be-- Oh, God. Mark, we've got to be, you know, it makes sense. Wait, no. Wait, he's the lady. That's the lady. Sorry, I forgot my own thing. Wait, he's the lady. Wait, he's in favor of frying. Mark is in favor of grilling. Wait, it gets to go first. I've learned a lot throughout the course of this episode. I've been on either side of the argument in various times. But there is one thing I've been known for since the Donna Distractable, and that's being the King of Meat. We all love meat here. In fact, Bob and I were just at a steakhouse the other day that had unlimited amounts of meat you can eat. And Mark convinced me that even the meat I thought most inside of grilling is, in fact, better being fried. He taught me that. How can I then argue that grilling is a superior method whenever all of the flavor and everything I love tastes better fried? I risked my case on the words of my opponent himself, frying just better for me. Jordan's wheat, surprising choice. Mark, final argument. I know I've been arguing in favor of frying every single one of these except for one. Well, let me tell you, that's because I was paid. I was paid by big fry to say these things. Big fry, but big fry, but wanted me to elucidate these meetings. So they know I was the most charismatic about it, but I have to go against it now because I need to be honest to myself. Just imagine that you receive an invite from a friend and look, oh, I got a barbecue going on. Oh, we're going to grill burgers when I grill. This sounds like a good time. They sent you a parchment. Yeah, why do you get letters? Well, I wouldn't know because all I do is fry in my past life. And now I'm reformed, I'm big enough to admit my mistake. Wow, I'm going to prepare for this barbecue. There's going to be a grill there. I can't wait. RSVPS, attached to the pigeon. You know, oh, imagine this arrow to the head. Oh, what is this? Oh, oh, my God. A backyard deep fry. What's wrong with that? He's going to kill my grandma. He's going to kill me too, probably. I'm going to tell report this to the police. That's what it is. Deep frying is for criminals. Criminals that want to secretly kill you. Your grandma, take your inheritance. They're going to seduce your grandma. They're going to get in the will. They're going to take him over to a deep fry, and they're going to kill her. And then they're going to be your grandpa. What are you going to do then when you have no money and no grandma, and only a deep-fired look forward to as you're lowered in there slowly? It's bad news all around. You're going to be the least popular person in flavor town if you go the path of the deep-fired. Don't do it. Don't do it. There's no hope at the end of that street. I love that that was. Did you talk about the flavor of anything? Oh, so it tastes good. Oh, boy. I love a good charcoal. Listen, you know, it's just really good and stiff. There's like an eight-mile wrapper. You just insult your grandpa at the whole time. It's like, what's good about your product? I don't know, but that one sucks. Hey, I celebrated my product at many turns there. The deep-fried water was all about having your cake and eating it to remember. Remember that? Isn't that good for frying? I had two grilled. I forgot those. It's our pet's grill. So, you know, that's true. If you did, it's our pet's grill. I wanted to like Wade's short and sweet, and I did, as I thought it was pretty true and pretty accurate, but Mark, I think, convinced me that frying is actually evil. Who cares if it's evil? It tastes better. Well, that's probably why it tastes better. We don't even care about health in this, are you? I learned that in step one. Mark drew me in. I mean, I've bought the fervor. I'm subscribing. I'm playing paying $15 a month to be part of Mike's fervor. Mike's? Mark's fervor club. And Mike. Mike's there, too. It's both of you. Mark's soft lemonade. I'll also point out that, Bob, you picked grill the majority of the time. Despite any argument I made towards the fry, I mean, it's probably better. I was really against you this time, Mark. That must be why the score is the way it is. Mm-hmm. Wait, what? I have a feeling it's not against you at all. Mark wins. Mark wins. Just that debate. Not the whole thing. Hey, was that that definitive? No, no. I didn't say the points here. I said the whole thing. Uh, that leaves us with points that in no particular order, Wade, you weren't points for being the king of meat, complimenting how good I was at giving at doing a wedding and marrying people. This guy called mentioning Tim back rooms. You won steak, hot dogs, you stole grilled cheese, uh, you advocated for murdering grandma. You won ice cream and you won ice cream. one water. Mark, you weren't points for being very historical. V slash H slash S. I don't know why that really tickled me. And this, that the thing you talked about about the whole SEP, which you think it's not gonna be a problem. It's not gonna be a problem. It's gonna be fun. You also got the acronym, man point, which will point we always give someone during the course of every episode. You won chicken, you won sandwich, you got a point for, I would draw that jury. You also got a point for ladies and gentlemen of the jury. I had horrible flashbacks that don't laugh. You once our patch kids, and you won the ultimate argument, drilling his superior. You convinced me of leaving the final score, 10 points for Wade, 10 points for Mark. Well, we don't need to wheel spin, which is the time. Why could I could see and just say it's a tie, you know, I don't really like that. I don't think that's very good. I don't think you have that authority. I wanna, I believe in whatever this wheel is gonna say will even things out. Well, no, uneven, it'll uneven things out in my favor. It'll make it perfectly dis-evenly. It's three. Okay. There we go. That's, that's good. That's, I like that. I like that. Three spins on. I gotta add something to the wheel. I hope it's not shirt close to background. I have a feeling Mark's math can't save me on that. What's this one? What's the first step of standard operating procedure? That's one of the entries on the wheel. Interesting. The first step is removing the option. When was that added and what the fuck? Name a fried food. First. Boom. I like the reaction. It's very unfair and completely imbalanced because you're all watching the wheel on a delay, and I don't know if your delay is synced up. It's great. I love this for me. Spin number one. Please don't take something stupid. Lover of video games. I've always loved video games. I mentioned war dogs earlier. No, he mentioned raw dogs is what he mentioned. No, you guys change it to raw dogs. Well, I mean, who's the butter lover of video games if they mentioned raw dogs? You know, there's a lot of love being going on. I only one of us talked about a video. Definitely, I guess SCP, but you talk about the movie and the game. So I talk about the video game. I mentioned games in there. I mentioned games. Is SCP not primarily a game? Because that's how I know it. It has many games. When I was talking about, I was thinking of all the various games that been made. There's a lot of there's lore. There's video games. Apparently there's a movie. There's all kinds of stuff. I don't know. We both talked about games. Good luck, Bob. I have to give it to Wade. Is he talked about the porn games? That was off. That was off recording. Yeah, was that in the episode? Was that part of the episode or no? I don't think that was part of the episode. Oh, I got scratched that. That's a respite then. Oh, man, I hope that's left it out of context. All right. They're right. Wade was talking about porn games some other time. Uh, this is spin number one, spin two. That's so out of context. I love it. All right. I'll take it. Oh, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about it. Mark definitely gets the shortest point. I'm shorter in my frame. It less way you want to concede the point. You want to concede the point. Yeah. Are you willing to publicly state for once and for all that Mark is taller than you or does Mark get that point? How important is winning to you? He gets the point. I can't lie. I'm a. That sounds like he gets that point. I'm an honest man. Spin number two. Spin number one. It's a tie. That comes up a lot. That comes up a lot. Bob was the only one who gets this I swear. That's got a chunky show. So the last spin was 24%. So now it's 26. 26% what's the date today? It's like the 27. And then I have to do bass. 93. Oh boy. That's nice. That's nice. What are the odds? It wouldn't do that to me. What did? Oh, listen, Mark and I have nothing going on this week. So it's perfect. One match shot. Hey, this might be the week where Bob has to play in his own one match show because I don't know that you were out of the time. Yeah, Bob, one match. However, it might need to wait until after the next episode because it was a pre-scheduled thing for the next episode. We were going to put the winner of this one on the next on the one after this one anyway. Well, there'll be some bonus episodes this month that I don't think you're going to count for the typical. So that should give us enough time to make a good one. Does it? Interesting. Interesting. You've had a lot of sudden deaths. I feel like this season, I feel like that's the second or third one at least. Yeah. Oh, easy jeopardy ended in sudden death, but Mark won that one. And that was a cut. Fine. It's great. I love that. It's, oh, and also reverse charades ended in sudden death. So three, three of the last five or six that I've hosted have ended. Well, that resets the wheel percentage. So, you know, we got that going for us. That's great for Mark and I right. That's good. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Congratulations to both of you, I guess. Grilled and fried grilled and fried grilled and fried are equally good. Turns out it's just whatever tool for the right job. No, we really got to the bottom of it and I think that's what everyone was interested in here. Winner's speech. I'd like to give it up to my opponent here. He put up a good fight, such a good fight. And even though we chucked grilled cheese to the fry world, which is unfortunate loss, given that grill is a superior method, I still think he put up a good fight even though he's turned the cosmos against some people. And I'd like to commend him for that. He will up end the entire universe to win his arguments. And that's the kind of commitment that I can respect. You did it. Congratulations. Wade also winner's speech. Mark and Bob conspired to make grilling superior, even though we learn that frying is better for meat. And the universe said, not today, not on my watch, we will not say that grilling is superior despite what you all are trying to pull. The run pool was stopped by the universe itself because frying and grilling are both equally good methods for cooking and preparing food. My opponent also put up a great fight. He has some very unfortunate positions he had to take and fought through them anyway. And ultimately, where would we end up after throwing all these punches and haymakers at each other? Shaking our hands on top of the podium. We each have a medal to bite. We each have a random lady to smooch. We each have champagne to shoot off into the air. And we each are standing side by side as the only two people competing, the only two people on the podium, an unequal footing that really determined nothing at the end. Other than that, the fact is that grilling and frying, you don't have to choose. They both want today. We all win because of that. What a great episode. What a thorough conclusion. Got all the way to the bottom of that one. Do you want to give a loser speech bomb? I'm excited for another one man show. I think we've really turned the corner on those. And I'm sure that this one will just be delight. I think we've all agreed that the one man shows are allowed to be fun and pleasant. And none of it has to be like a weird torture ritual. And so I think I think this one's going to be enjoyable for everyone, including it, especially me. So I'm really excited for it. And it's going to be fine. It's going to be real. It's better than five extra fine. Feel like a point 0.05 pen fine. 05. What five? How fine is fine? Anyway, it's going to be great. Thank you so much for competing. And I can't even be mad at you because it's neither your faults that this has happened to me. The wheels got me again. What can you do? Make sure you follow Mark and Wade and myself. Wade is Lord minion 777 or minion 777 Markiplier. I am my skirm. Make sure you follow the show so you know what episodes come out because we have bonus episodes. Sue is starting in October, the first Friday in October. They're going to start coming out. And they're going to be happening all October. They're going to be on Fridays. But if you follow the show, you won't miss them. It's Gary tapes coming at you. Ha. Make sure you check out the merch to startable.shop. There's going to be stuff in conjunction with the scary tapes. For now, that's going to be it. See you on the next rain line episode. We'll be a one-man show. But also see you on the next scary tapes. Sam, make that sound spooky. Whoa, that lightning has been thundered. Got me. Yeah, Sam's got my back. He'll do it. That's it. See you on the next one. Bye, podcast out.