Greg Olsen Talks NFL Trade Deadline Winners & Losers

You know, I know this is America's game of the week and it's supposed to be a great, no, this ain't going to be a great game. You're about to see the Niners whip up on these Dallas Cowboys. That's not me as a fan. It's not me as a San Francisco 49er fan. That's analyst tools. [MUSIC] He was an elite titan of our era. Now he's a legendary youth football coach. He's also one of the best announcers in the game today. Let's get on Greg Olson. Greg, I got asked right away. We just had the trade deadline. Who is your winner? Who is your loser? Who had, who do you wish did more? >> Yeah, great question. So winner, I would have said, prior to last night, I would have said the Bears. I think Simmons is a fruit show. And I think there was some speculation early like, hey, did you give up too much for an interior player? Typically, we see those outside edge guys, the Miles Garrett's of the world and years back, Khalil Mack. And I think what's so cool about Jeffery Simmons is, no matter what style of game the Bears have to play. It's a heavy run game. All right, cool. He can get in the middle of that and crush your run game and hold up as an interior player. End of the game, we need a stack. We need to kill a two minute drive. He's just as impactful against the pass. I think a guy like him who can impact every single play, run pass early in the game, close out a two minute drive, like in everything in between, brings incredible value. I think in just a couple games that he's played, his impact has been clear. I love that he wears the orange sleeves. You always know exactly where he is. I know that's kind of his thing with this. It's awesome. Every, there should be a league rule that your best player, like on Madden when like there's a star under, you know, Gronk or whatever. Like there are everybody's elite player on defense should have to wear something easily identifiable. Like that could be a thing. I would love that as a broadcaster because you know exactly where Simmons is on every play. I mean, it's just an orange sea of fire when he blows up run play. Yeah. And then you're just like, thank God, he's not a six technique. Because I would be an absolute blender. Yeah, he's a, but okay, so I would have said that. I think quarterback is still quarterback. I think the Vikings getting Kirk Cousins changes the whole game. That defense is ridiculous, yeah. But they're hanging on by a threat every game because there's just been zero efficiency there offensively. The other night really being a tough watch. On Monday. So I would say right now, Minnesota getting Kirk Cousins. He's been in that system. There's going to be very little verbiage, you know, that he's got to learn he's been in it. He played at a high level before he blew out as a killies. Has a good relationship with O'Connell knows the system. Has relationship with Justin Jefferson. Like that to me, he feels like the win, especially because that defense. That's a super bowl of defense. They just need to start scoring some points. Now, who do you wish would have done a little more? There's got to be a team out there. I wish there's a few for me. You know, I'll tell you, and I'm certainly not going to answer your question directly. I'm going through my head to give you a thoughtful response. But somebody off the top of my head that I think is interesting is to see like how active Philly was. You know, it's just, it's a team that, you know, listen, they've been a premier team. I think they've won more games or second most games than the last, you know, in Syriani's era than anybody in the league. I mean, this is a team that's a perennial NFC contender. We've seen a play for two Super Bowls win one under Syriani. And to see them, you know, they let Cam Jordans go weeks ago. Now Jordan Davis who they just gave a big contract extension, he's let go. Just interesting to see a team that you're used to seeing be like a contender where you're saying, okay, who can Philly bring in to make a run for them being on the cell side? Just a little bit of a different position that we're used to seeing Philly because we're used to seeing them be, you know, at or top of the league. Yeah, it's, it's different, but like how he rose, man, this is the guy who fired Doug Peterson and got moved on from Nick Foles in like a year and a half after weren't winning a Super Bowl. These guys, he's just so ahead of the curve, I think he's getting insane picks. They got 10 picks in the next three, what, 10 picks in the first two rounds next three years. Like they're going to be back in like two, three years. And that's how it should be done. That's what you have to do. We always talk about like when we talk about who's the team that doesn't lose enough. The Steelers, they never go, they're always so mediocre that they can never get that flip. Like how he doesn't care. He'll pull the reset button right away when he wants to and he's going to find a way to recoup the team. Yeah, and he has the track record. Oh, yeah. Again, I'm not suggesting that Philly was wrong. No, no, they're brilliant. I think, I think we see teams hang on too long when they don't have the self awareness to say, you know what, our window, it's closed. There's nothing we can do. We got to take, except what we where we are. We don't have our quarterbacks, fake ones in and out. He's banged up clearly not 100% offensive line, not the offensive line. So I give teams a lot of credit. I thought you guys always did a nice job, right? Bella check always had the reputation as I'd rather move on too early than too late. But again, I'm, I think how he roseman and Schneider and Seattle, I think those two guys operate, especially their ability through the draft to add impactful dudes, they operate at the highest of levels. So with all that draft capital, what it does for how he roseman is not only does it allow him to just continue to add key pieces right when you on Mitchell, Jalen Carter, Cooper, Dejean. I mean, just guys over the last couple drafts that have been impactful from day one. But it also allows him to then bundle up some of these picks and say, okay, do I need 10 picks? Do I need 12 or can I bundled two or three of these and this off season go out and acquire a day one impact veteran that I need some draft capital to go out and acquire. So I think to your point, he's always, you know, ahead of the curve, really thoughtful and how he, you know, balances comp picks and drafts for the sake of draft, but also draft picks for the sake of future trade acquisitions or moving up and down in the draft. Like he's playing it at a high level, so I don't, I don't knock him. I agree. He's going to, he's going to retool that thing and see where it goes. I also liked Hooker going to Buffalo. I think that's a sneaky really good. That's a good one. Jimmy Leonard, you know, they're defensive coordinator. I played against him a whole lot and, you know, Hooker is a very smart football player. Reminds me of a more athletic Jimmy Leonard. And when you get the like, we're seeing what safety play can do. You look at Green Bay, like they don't have great corners. But they have insane safeties with McKinney and Williams. And that's such an advantage for a defensive. You have a good front and you have safety play that gets the play communicated to your corners. And they're always in the right spot. I think that could be a big help for Buffalo and they needed it. Yeah, that's a, that's a sneaky one, right? It gets lost in the shuffle of maybe some other, you know, the Jeffrey Simmons and the cousins and the, you know, kind of those name big brand guys. But yeah, I think right now for Buffalo with where, you know, you got Josh Allen, even though the other night against Minnesota, it didn't always look perfect and it didn't always look. But I'll tell you what, when you got that guy, he's going to make just enough plays. He's going to just escape a, you get a free runner that's normally a sack 9 out of 10 times. Next thing, you know, he comes out of it and either runs or throws it downfield for an explosive. We saw him do that just the other night, you know, in their win. So, yeah, I think offensively they know what they want to be offensive minded coach now, you know, with Joe Brady, but yeah, just continuing to improve that defensive side of the ball. When you have an offense like Buffalo and you have a quarterback like Josh Allen, you want to be as good as you can. You'd love to be a top 10 unit, but it's kind of similar to Dallas, right? Like, when you have an offense that's going to be a 30 point offense, a high 20s point offense mostly, even if you could just be like middle of the pack, just be like a height a low 20s mid 20s of game defense and you're going to win a lot. Like, I think that's what a lot of these teams are trying to kind of wrap their head around is we just can't be terrible on defense when we have such an elite offense and, you know, one of these elite quarterbacks. Greg, you have, you have great insight and we all, you know, I follow you on Instagram. You're the coach of the Charlotte Christian middle school football team. You guys went undefeated in 2025, you're undefeated in 2026. Is this officially a dynasty? Yeah. There's a lot of people. I'm not saying I said it, but there was a lot of people saying like it goes Charlotte Christian middle school nights and then it's like Patriots, modern days, chiefs. Like I think you guys were all like fighting for second. I didn't say I read that. I read that somewhere. I would certainly never say that, but a lot of other people, yes, have called it a dynasty. So I appreciate you bringing that up. Are you guys with me? Are you familiar with what those are? Are you familiar with those? I, I, I know Charlotte Latin is pretty good. I know. I know. I know. They're pretty good. Huh? They're not as, at the middle school level, they're not as good as us. They're not as good as you guys. Like, what are you recruiting guys? No. We have, we have kids from local schools that, you know, in sixth and seventh. Again, we're doing seventh and eighth grade, right? So to recruit a sixth grader, I mean, how, what does that look like? Has there been none? Has there been one kid that you saw? Oh, we've had kids come, oh, yeah. that kids come play for us. Absolutely. If you if you're a good player, we say this all time, if you're a good player in this town, especially after you play us and you kind of walk off and you're like, wait a minute, like that looked a little bit different than what we're doing. And the parents go, that looks a little bit different than what we're doing. If you express interest that you want to come play it for us, it's not a foreground conclusion. We're not at a school that can just like get anybody in at any time. There is a pretty restrictive process to what this looks like. But if you're interested in football and you want to come play for us, we're certainly going to take it. Like we're not sitting here like holder than that. I was saying, no, we don't. If you want to play real ball, come play for us. And we're going to coach the hell out of you. And we're going to be hard on you. And we're going to develop you with the goal of you being a really good high school football player. And then whatever goes beyond that, you know, fate will take its course. But yeah, we take it serious. We work all summer. We do three days a week in the summer 8 a.m. Hot outside 7th and 8th grade. All summer long, two a day training camps. I mean, we do what we all probably remember is like a really good high school football program. We've tried to take that model and just bring it down to 7th and 8th graders. Now there's no PA restriction. So you can get a lot of hours out of these kids, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I haven't made a carpool deadline yet. So here, hey, here's a little trick of the trade, Joe. I'll give you a little trick of the trade one day when you're when you're coaching. So like you have to be very particular about your carpool pickup, right? So football practice is three to five, right? You just send it out early in the week and you say football practice is three to five and whatever. I'll always put in like an extra 1520. If I know practice is going to end at five carpools at 515. If practice goes to 515, carpool pickups 530. Like because I learned early on, you say five and those kids walk out at 510, you're going to get emails because God forbid the parents waited an extra eight minutes while I sweat my ass off to coach the kids. But point being people want to pick their kid up when they when you tell them. So always add a little buffer. You know what the coolest thing about all this though is just we had a camera crew. So we have a show it debuts literally today on YouTube four o'clock to call miles that matter with Geico. They followed us from June to our last game in October. Bus rides, carpool, practice, training, weight room, the whole season. And they're doing like an eight episode behind the scene like hard knocks picture of our team, dude. It is sick. Wait, you got to watch it. It's pretty awesome. I can't wait to dive into this. I cannot wait. Oh, it's great. You know, this this this weekend my daughter played in the soccer game. I didn't get to go because we were at West Point. But our parents got a yellow card because there was a little too much chippinus going on on the field. These are nine year old girls. We got yellow cards. Now, can you explain to me the pushy parents nowadays compared to pushy parents when we were kids? Because this is crazy to me. I'm I'm so new to this, but you're fooling all day on this. So tell me about these pushy parents compared to when we had pushy parents. What's the difference? Yeah, so I have to be very careful here about like popcorn, you know, throwing stones here in a glass house because I could be a little chippy, a little chirpy on the sideline. When I when I'm coaching, that's a different story, right? Like I'm in charge. I'm yet on instruction and whatever where my weakness is when I'm sitting in the bleachers and like I'm hand in the sky like full ownership here. I am a big like vocal participant in the game. And I know I shouldn't and I'm trying hard. It's just really hard for me to like see something and not say it. I'm the same way. So I'm the same way. Like if if the kids not focusing or we're we got teammates over there where we shouldn't be over there. Hey, space. What do you say? Now, I will say like never to the other team. Never to the other parents. Only our child. Only to our child that we will yell. Yeah. So like my daughter has a basketball game tonight and like I'll be sitting there in the get and I'll be like get back on get tell me get back. Hey, like during a thing, I'll like get her attention. I'll be like, you got to get in a stance. You're playing too tall. Get in a stance. No more fat. Like I'll get like I can't help it. Now she has an awesome coach who is probably all so I really need to like reel it in. But it's hard for me like, I don't know. It's just the way I am. I fully understand the stance athletic stance. Okay, we can't we can't be standing straight up. Our feet can't be close. You cannot. Okay, because then we're going to be late when we have to adjust our body to get that we're late. We're late, Greg. And the next thing you know, we got two thousand the first four minutes and you got to sit on the bench. Exactly. We're not focused. Okay, it's all about focus attitude and energy. All right. Okay, we'll get out of this. I'm a big warm up guy. Big warm up guy. I can't stand watching them go through lay up lines or warm up lines half-assed. I'm with you. We got to get we got to somehow see what Greg Olson's pay scale is and bring him over to bring him out here. See what he's getting paid. But I know I work for free. This costs me money. I'm in the hole, brother. Now Greg, you're going to Germany for the Patriots Lions game. How excited are you for this? Oh, I'm pumped. So I got to do the the Dublin. So I played one overseas game as a player. 2019, one of my last years we went overseas to London and we played the Bucks. Great experience. Last year, I got to call the Dublin game Dublin, Ireland. That was awesome. And now this year they're sending us to Munich, Germany. It's going to be like a Fox triple header. So we'll do the nine. What is it? Like nine 30 or nine or nine 30 local Eastern. And then the one o'clock game. And then the so it'll be a triple header like three national windows on Fox. So that'll be super cool. Got the Patriots obviously trying to get back right after last week's game. Drake May's Charlotte kid had known him since he was in high school. So that'll be cool. And they played Detroit who after getting off to a slow start and really struggling on the defensive side of the ball, they're getting healthier, getting some of their dudes back. And obviously Jack Campbell, that was a brutal watch in that play out. Hopefully he's okay. But all in all, they're playing better on defense. And I think it's going to be a fun, a great matchup. The stadium looks incredible. And I think the fans over there are supposed to be super into football. So we're pumped. Do you have anything plan like maybe a little Octoberfest, a little pretzel, a little schnitzel, a little spetzel, a little roll call, a little something. I mean, apparently you have it all down. If all of those things that you just said are actual real things, I don't eat them all. They're amazing. I'm an eat them all. I can crush a pretzel. Like, there is no pretzel on earth that I'm not going to hammer big mug of beer. I want to have a beer and one of those like they're called Steins or the Stein. Like they're almost like what is it? A Stein. Oh yeah, Stein. Okay, they're like they're almost like ceramic and they're super cold. Like I'm going to have a one big beer of that. I'm only going I don't get there until I leave on Friday. I can fly direct from Charlotte. So I'm not going to be there very long. But um yeah, I'm going to go check out some of the bars. Go check out some of the scene, walk around as opposed to be staying in a cool area. So I'm pumped. Again, I've never been there. So this will be a personal and professional vacation. Well, Greg, thanks for giving us some of your time. I'm so excited for the German people to get to have Greg Olsen call a game because you're inside on the game. How you call a game is so unbelievable to me. Have fun in Germany, bro. And thanks for coming on, man. I appreciate you. Of course, man. It's always good to see you. Miles, that matter is out now on the whistle sports YouTube channel. Go check it out, guys. This is going to be unbelievable. I can't. You see the excitement he has. Oh my god. You see the excitement. Bro, full recruiting. Greg recruiting. He's fully recruiting. He's fully recruit. And he may be paying some of these something's going. There's some in I know school level. There's no school. You don't go out there. No, no, no, bro. You know, you don't beat the cadence school by 40. You don't beat Charlotte Latt in my third. Like we're recruiting. He's recruiting. He's also got keekly on the coaching staff. Do we do he? He's guy. I mean, Stewart. This is the next level coaching staff. This is, I mean, I can't wait to see the high school. Yes. I mean, you thought those packer staffs with a homegrown back of the day were legendary. Nothing can murder these guys. Man. Holy smokes. I love Gray's like, we don't recruit. They come to us. They just come to Greg is the best. He's the best. I really am. I really am excited for the German people to get a little Greg Olson. Me too. I can talk to Greg for all day. I mean, we could have. And he would have gave us some great answers. He's a beast. He is a beast. I love Greg. Man, everyone go check it out. Miles that matter narrated by Ron Rivera narrated by the river boat riverboat Ron man. Whistle's sports YouTube channel. So check it out. Walmart Black Friday deals are live online now from top tech like Vizio and Beats to kitchen must haves from ninja. Walmart's got you covered from their favorite brands. They know and love who knew shop now to to score some sweet Black Friday deals from Walmart before they're gone. Time for the officially delicious matchup presented by Little Caesars. We're talking America's Game of the Week between the Dallas Cowboys and the San Francisco 49ers. Let's get into it. - Oh, baby. What a game we have this week, Joel. - Holy smokes. - This is a huge rivalry. - Can you put it into perspective for people? - I'll put it in. - I might not realize. Where does it stack up among NFL rivalries? - I mean, to put it in perspective, when I was a free agent and I was talking to other teams, my brother looked at me square in the face, eye to eye and said, if you join the Cowboys, I will never cheer for you. Because we were such big 49ers fans. I mean, the catch, Dwight Clark, the catch was a Cowboys, the epic battles in the 90s between the two teams. I mean, it's just the Cowboys, the 49ers hated each other. - Oh, man, Jason, Jason let it be known. - I cannot cheer for you if you ever become a Dallas Cowboy. - That sums it up right there. That is rivalry, right? - That is rivalry. - Holy smokes, I love it. And this week, we got a great addition, another great installment in this iconic NFL rivalry. The 7-1-9ers taken on the 4-5 Cowboys. Cowboys are showing a little bit of life here. One, two of their last three beat the Eagles, held off in the last week. Tough one against Arizona. Tough one looked like the defense was kind of making some progress. Turn him that corner, let him back in the game. Menshu did a Menshu thing, he's brought him back. That was tough one. - He also lost to the Titans. - Or the Bucks. - The Bucks, not great. That's also really bad. That was a tough loss. - But they don't look as bad now. - No, they're getting it back together. Hopefully this defense can keep stepping up kind of similar situations we talked about in Detroit, but just not great defensively. Last week, San Fran took care of business against Vegas, did it at home, bounced back after that tough road lost to Atlanta, Fred Warner. I mean, this guy has just been a beast defensively. Peanut, punches left and right. - Yeah, five years. - Five on a year, unbelievable. Brock Birdies playing MVP level football, some are saying. But I mean, Christians doing Christian things. A lot of injuries, a lot of injuries, but they're resilient. They're fighting through 'em. This is 71 football team. Looks like one of the most complete teams in the year, but Dallas on the other hand, you can't sleep on that offense. Explosion plays, put it up, put up some points last week, even without pickings. Gotta get some balance back in that offense as we talked about with Javante Williams with CD. You can't rely on these big CD bombs or 30 targets again. You gotta eat a little more shotty. Little more shotty, balance man, come on. Yeah, I'm a little, you know, they got better last week. I mean, deck only through the ball 34 times, but they let Indie come back. - Right. - They let Indie come back. Can't be doing that. They can't, and it just seems to me that they're offense. Like, it's so predictable. They run it on first down, and then they try to do like a play action on second down or then they get a holding call, and then it's third and 13, or it's third and 12, or it's third and 14, and then they don't convert it, and then they get back into the hole, and then they have an explosion play by CD or, you know, pickings in the prior weeks before they're not playing this week. So, it just seems like they're so out of rhythm, which is crazy to me because they've had continuity on the offense aside of the ball now for two years with shotty. - I know. - You know, and they go, they try to be aggressive, but they don't always get it. They got it last week in the red area and the fourth and two. If you go out and slop it out there against this defense with Fred Warner, which the Cowboys do put the ball on the turf, there's been a few fumbles by that offense. - So last week, you know, they're out there. And this Niners team, they take this rivalry serious because Kyle Shanahan's been around that organization for a very long time. His dad was the OC there back in the 80s. We all know that. We saw him babysitting McCaffrey when, you know, McCaffrey's dad was a Niner. We all know the story. So he's gonna have that team coming out. So the Cowboys, they need to go out and put up a good performance and shock some people. - Not shock us in a way with a game that they should have won like the Buccaneers or the Arizona Cardinals. They need to shock us in the other way for the first time this year. - Well said, gotta put together back-to-back wins haven't done that all year. So they can, I mean, get back to 500. That'd be big in that division. - Defense gotta get back on track. But I tell you right now, against these 49ers, it doesn't matter who's in the lineup. If Brock's healthy and Shanahan's calm plays, they're gonna be productive. - The darn right, speaking of which, Jules, big question for you here. Is this the year the Niners finally get it done under Shanahan? And is Brock pretty a legitimate MVP candidate right now? - Brock Perty's definitely a legitimate MVP candidate, first off, and with them getting it done, it only relies on one thing, getting healthy at the right time. Now they have a lot of their guys coming back, which is almost a good thing because they're missing a majority of the season while they're collecting the wins. And they're gonna get better at the back end of the season. - This is true, good timing. - So Mike Evans, he needs to be healthy for the run. Boss is coming back. He looked like he was better this past weekend, had a couple TFLs, they're getting guys back, they need to get guys back on the offense. They need to keep Christian healthy. You know, I love Kayla on black. I think he's developed a really good role to take some of that poundage off Christian and let Christian be more of a situational guy because he's that important to the offense. Kittle, he's, he's so impressive. Coming off in a kill, he's like eight months out and he's still making these explosion plays being a huge part of the run game. If they stay healthy, there's no reason why they can't go out and be a real, real contender in the NFL. - Agreed. - This team's been too good for too long, not to sneak one Super Bowl. They've gone through a bunch of adversity this year and they're seven and one. It's pretty impressive. No one thought, no one thought the San Francisco 49ers, including myself would be seven or one this point with the Seattle Seahawks and the preseason Super Bowl champions L.A. Rams. - This is true. - Like, and they've gone out and they beat everyone. I really do think this is a huge opportunity for the San Francisco 49ers. They know the window is shrinking, okay? They got a lot of older players. If they can somehow stay healthy, there's no reason why they can't be in the Super Bowl. - Don't right, speaking of old players, I added Keenan Allen this week. - Keenan Allen. - I didn't see what that'll do though. - I'm excited for that. He's a great situational receiver. They've struggled when Mike Evans hasn't been out there on third down and in the red area. Keenan Allen, he's a savvy guy. He's seen more football than anyone on that football team near here, other than Mike Evans, probably. - That's true. - But if you have those guys that know how to get open on third down with Brock, Brock ain't gonna miss them. - No. - And then Brock with his legs. We don't talk about it enough. You know, there's a couple of third and 11s, third and 9s, Brock will go and he's slippery. He's strong and he's faster than you think and he's stronger than you think. Like, he's got a big bottom lower end. - Yes. - And I'm really excited for the San Francisco 49ers. I think they're gonna, I know this is America's game of the week and it's supposed to be a great, no, this ain't gonna be a great game. But you're about to see the Niners whip up on these Dallas Cowboys, and that's not me as a fan. - That's not me as a San Francisco 49er fan. - That's Analyst Jules. That's Analyst Jules. - Don't write. But we gotta, we love Brock over here. Big Brock guys, just to put this into perspective. If he does win MVP, first seventh rounder to win MVP. - My guy. - First Mr. relevant to win. - My guy. - And if they get it done this year, he will be one of only two seventh rounders to win Super Bowl MVP. - Who's the other? - Malcolm Smith. - This guy, this guy I know Jules. - This guy Jules. - Hey man. - This guy, I know named Jules. - This guy Brock. (laughing) - He could do the Ducks. - My guy. - He's got a little, he's got a little of that rhythm. Got a little Baker Mayfield in there. - I'm excited for these guys. But it all comes down, you never wanna say, as a football team, if we stay healthy because it never works out that way. - This is true. - But we all know football season starts after Thanksgiving. And they're in damn good spot being seven and one, collecting all those wins early. That's what a good football team does. While they're learning their football team, collecting wins. - Can't wait to check in on these guys after Thanksgiving, keep it rolling. Let's go Niners, come on. All season long, Fox delivers the NFL action and this Sunday, America's Game of the Week takes center stage, fuel your game day with little Caesars and get an officially delicious offer. 15% off orders of $15 or more with code, Fox NFL. Little Caesars is the official pizza of the NFL and the "Gronken Jules Show." Now that's officially delicious. - Jules, moving on. You would think it's March Madness, the way we're talking about bubble teams. But is that time in the NFL season where you gotta take a look and say who's in, who's out as it stands after 10 weeks, nine weeks, whatever we are. Let's do a little segment here, Jules. We're sorry to burst your bubble, but we're gonna look at some of these bubble teams around the NFL. We got five big categories here. First up, Jules, the panic room, the panic room. This is the team you are most worried about. The panic meter is the highest. We're not talking about the old Jody Foster movie. Who is in the panic room? Door locked, like panic meter, didn't go off the rickshaw. I'm a little panicked about the cowboys. I don't blame you, brother. Like, I know the defense will get better, but I'm a little disappointed with Shotty. Yeah, they run the ball off, but it's always like at the wrong time. It's like very predictable offense. They didn't have pickings last week. CDs getting like 30 targets a game. It's hard to win when you put all your eggs in one basket like that. It's true. You know, Javante Williams, they use him. He's productive. He has a great yards per carry, but it seems like they just, they get away from the run game even though they run the ball a lot. I know Dac only had what 35 throws last week. That's better than 50 or what he had the week before. So like, I just, I'm worried about, I'm worried about them, because I was so excited going into the season about the cowboys. And I, I'm not a cowboys guy, but it just thought, you know, Dac, pickings, CD, the offense, a little continuity with Shotty with the second year. And it hasn't looked that well. Like, yeah, they're like a top three offense, but like a lot of that's in garbage time when they're coming back on teams at the end of games, when the game's already kind of over. I really do think it's a little panicky, because what's their schedule coming up coming up next? You got the Niners, America's Game of the Week this weekend. That's going to be tough. They're playing good. There's a three game home thread Titans. After that. Okay. In Jerry world. Cam's playing his, he's playing his bet. He's playing good. He's putting back to back 300. Yep. Last week and then next week for the week after the Titans, he got the Eagles all in Jerry world. Should be able to get that. Can they beat him twice in the season and then tough one at Seattle, at LA Rams. Okay. Those are two desperate teams that, you know, they need to win too. This five game stretch is going to be. I'm a little panicked for the Cowboys. I'm with him. Cowboys. Stamp it. Moving on, Jules. Who could be the second half surprise? Second half surprise could be the Bengals. Tell me more, tell me more. Joey B. I know they don't have a run game, but he's different MVP. He's on some MVP stuff that they're clicking on. Like when he, when he's in the zone, he reminds me of Bradyish. You know, when he climbs a pocket and he's hitting guys left and right. He's got two really good playmakers from they got Gil Seku's another good target on, you know, third down and in the red area when all the coverage is going to their other guys. They get that run game going. The defense had a better week last week. Yep, sexy dexie. You know, they, they contained the Atlanta Falcons run game, which I didn't think they were going to be able to do it like that. You know, Dexter Lawrence is showing his value. He's had some big plays at the end of games. I just think that they're calm is confident in as they've been since they went to that Super Bowl. Agreed. I know that five years ago. And Joe seems to be in a good mood. He's happy Joe right now. He's wearing some t-shirts. Probably today that's got, you know, like a rat surfing on something. What was the one where he's? He's a rat and then he had, he was Pikachu last week going on. I mean, he's letting it all hang out. I love it. I think Joe, happy Joe every Joe. They got a big one this week against the Pittsburgh Steelers. This will tell us a lot, but I think I think I think because they're, their schedule gets a lot easier after this. I love that. And how about this next one here, Jules and our categories? We're the Bubble Boys. We're calling these the Bubble Boys, not the Jake Jill in Hall movie, but your favorite team. It's really cemented on the bubble right now. Not leading their division. Kind of in that like six to ten seed range. Six to ten seed range. As it stands right now, you know, your, your patriots, your browns, your packers. Packers, you think packers that performance that they put on in Foxboro, on grunk day with Tom in the booth. With all the 2016 six Super Bowl championship team there. I mean, that was long as I was a beat down. They didn't drop any balls. And that's what happens. That's what it looks like. If they don't drop any balls, golden and Watson. I mean, they're the only two guys they really have literally. And it seemed like the Patriots just couldn't stop them. This is the truth, man. It's insane to think there's six and three in their ass in their division. And their run game got going against the Pats a little bit. It did. I mean, sneaky like 120 something yards by committee there. You know, and they're going to get Micah back. They are. Okay. And the defense has been playing very tough. So once you get that closer, that's scary. That's scary. You know, even Micah at 80% is still better than 90% of guys darn right. So and he's going to have fresh legs. And he's probably, you know, they're very conservative over there in Green Bay with their their ACL recoveries. We've heard that coming out of the camps. So I think he's going to come back. He's going to look good. I mean, you look what Miles Garrett just did when he came back off his injuries. Got two sacks of TFL this. I'm back, baby. You know, so you know, Micah, you know, Micah is watching all the other guys and he's probably sitting there licking his chops. When I get back, I'm going to make I'm going to put on a show as well. So I think those packers are the bubble boys. I'm with you there. Speaking of Packers and that great defense about Evan Williams and Xavier McKinney, those safeties. I mean, anytime they start to show safeties moms, like they were showing Williams moms on the broadcast. That's when you know, you got a good football player. It's not a rookie. It's not like Joe Milton's mom or something. You know, he's getting his first start in the NFL. No, when it's a guy that's been around for a little bit of a couple years. They're showing mom. That's when you know, you got some bad dude. That's when you know your mom. If Mama Duke is getting their time. Mama Duke's getting their time. I love it. I love it. Let's go shout out Mama Williams. All right. Next up, Jules, of these teams we got here in the playoff picture. Who is the real deal contender? That team could win it all. That's not leading the division right? Correct. Correct. I got to go with the chiefs. That juice. I'm with you. You know, that run game. They're still continuing that. They just got downs in a trade. I think I think Patrick as the season goes on, he's going to continue to get more and more like Patrick. Okay. That ACL. That's tough, man. And he came out. He came early. He came back early. He wanted to he wanted to show to his teammates that he wants to be out there for them, even if he's not a hundred percent. And with those ACLs, when I had my ACL and I came back, like I wasn't me until like week 11 or 12. And I was a year out by the time I came back. Wow. You know, the endurance strength of all those muscles that you've been working, like all the, you know, you still have a bunch of atrophy in your calf and your quad. The more you play on it, the more reps you get on it in game at practice, that that that's building you know, it's making you better. So I think the chiefs, you know, with with what they did, they got downs. They'll get rice. He's getting into a nice rhythm. They still have worthy. They still got, you know, savvy Kelsey. They still got guys that know how to play and spags on that defense with that run game. With the run game, you could control games. Okay, nine. That's a new dimension. They had an head, you know, they can keep other teams off. And it's off the field. And if they get downs to go in there and he could be part of that Rishi rice game, that intermediate pass game where they can be situationally tied on third down those third and sixth day ahead of the sticks. And you know, and convert those. I think they're going to be real deal agreed. I really agree with that. I can't turn your back on path. Never do. Can't turn your back on path. You know, they got that chip on their shoulder after missing the playoffs last year. Yeah. These guys are pissed off, man. Yeah. And come on now. They've been seeing all the, they've been seeing all the graphics of how dominant the Patriots were for the last 20 years. No way, man. They've been seeing those graphics. They don't like that. They don't like it. Come on now. Next up, Jules last, but certainly not least. It was a pretender. It was pretending right now on this one. You know, I think those. I think those panthers are kind of pretender. All right. All right, the NFC South leaving NFC South. I guess going to be a bloodbath. You know, I saw maybe the first one day, first one day, first, the race to eight, maybe someone I saw maybe, maybe my favorite meme of the week last night, which was the NFC South is the only division where you can be fighting for a playoffs, but and the first pick in the NFL draft. It's true. It's true. It's true. You know, easy. How about that North though? If you look at the NFC, the other side of the coin, the other side of the coin. Okay. You got Rams and Seahawks both out right now. Yes. Niners are they're on an away with that thing. Wait, MC West. Yeah. I know what I'm saying. So you have the North. You have the North. Yes. Our three or four teams going to get in from the North. That's a good boy. Okay. I see what you're saying here, which that means only one of those Seahawks Rams teams going to get in. Whew. You know, the Rams are getting better on defense. Seahawks. They got to figure out how to be able to score when their run game's not going and, you know, there's 15 guys on JSN. Yeah, really, really. So, you know, I think, I think it's going to be real, real, real tight. These next four weeks, man, this is the pasteurization period. It's not cream season. Yeah, we all know cream season comes after Thanksgiving. Cream season coming. Get ready. But that pasteurization period, that's when the fat is starting to, you know, I, all you milk people out there, the fat starts to come together and it starts to rise and we get separation and oh, you dairy farmers hit the comments. Oh, you dairy farmers hit that. I know there's a lot of almond milk people. Oh, they're giving me the real, the only fee. Give me the real deal. Holy, feel, baby. This is going to be a fun time of year. This, this, these next three, four weeks, this is real football here. This is when guys are going to start, you know, planning their playoff seating or they're going to be planning their golf trips. That's true. You know, and there's going to be a lot of shakeup. You know, you look at, look at these, you know, seven to nine, seven to 10 teams or there could be one to sneak in there. I think the AFC is a less jumpy than that NFC, NFC. You know, there's a lot of teams right there going a lot of different directions. This is ridlock. This is the funnest time right now. Football is getting NFL football is getting real. We're about to start walking around with a pocket full of those little half and half. Like you see at the diner, yeah, we might cut a macho man from a second, the cream right. There's the guy you are right now, and there's the guy you could be whatever's been holding you back, your hair, your weight, your energy, hymns has a real plan for it built around you. Be prepared. 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And like you said, you might say, ah, you got the two five and one Washington commanders, but you watch these guys playing a lot better football than the two five and one team. A lot of close losses. Jayden Daniels is back and healthy. And when he's back and healthy, he's a dangerous man. Dangerous. Dangerous man. Last week hosted the Rams fell 20 to 13. Like we said, a lot of these one score losses in Washington led 10, 6 and a half, but then Miles Garrett became Miles Garrett and did Miles Garrett things, game rectum, three sacks, a force fumble. That was the difference in this one. Tough loss. Last week, the Giants on the other hand coming off a big win in Philly. First time they've done that in forever. 19 11 weird. What a weird score. Weird score. Weird score. Weird score. Weird, weird score. Ah, coming off that by the prior week. So they were nice and rested, took down Houston the week before that. Scott not playing last week out with a hammy. We saw JJ in there, uh, got a little banged up at the hip winner gave us a great meme, generational meme, winsing on the sidelines there. As he was trying to throw back, I think he might be our new will love us. By the way, Jules, the meme king. The meme came. I'm saying it right now. I'm, I'm just saying who is JJ nine. Does nine not give us memes? Well, what is ground column nine squared nine squared. 18. Let me check my math on that. I don't know if the math is mad, but it sounds good. It sounds good. Either way, these two are meeting another divisional matchup. You remember last time they played each other. Jules tied tie tie that infamous tie. Giants favored by two and a half in this one. What do you think, Jules? How you feeling? What are your first initial reactions on this one? First and first initial reactions are this game's a lot harder to pick than you think. Agreed. Because like you said, Jayden Daniels is dangerous. Dangerous. You know, I, I, I, they had Van Jefferson. He had a big game last week. They don't have, they don't really have many targets, but Jayden Daniels at any point of the game, whether you like it or not, he could take off and, and get you a 30 burger right away. Like it's nothing. Like it's nothing. And he hasn't even been running that much. No. So, you know, I think they're very dangerous, but the Giants, they just have this John Harballness about them. They're very, very tight. Like if you watch their special teams, the kicker struggled the previous two weeks. Now he, he went four for four last week. They looked dialed late in the game. They had the punt that, you know, backed up those commanders and dared the commanders to go 96, 97 to tie it with the two point conversion. John Harball. He's coaching, like the opposite of all these young guys coach, not like crazy aggressive plays to his defense, puns on four down, very fundamentally sound with his special teams. They always get big plays out of the punt team. Like John Harball has got this team just solid. They're not, they're not great in anything. Maybe the special teams, they played great last week, but they're solid in a whole bunch of all the other, all the other phases of the game. Like the defense align is coming along. They're banged up. They don't have burns, but Reese is coming out. That guy is a monster monster. I mean, that guy could give a year. He could or the guy in the jets. I mean, New York's got two rookies that are playing insane defense right now, but it seems like the best football, the most competent, solid football. We've seen since the coffin era in New York. It feels very Coffinland. It does, you know what I mean? It just does. And the avoid and costly mistakes one turn over in the last two weeks, taking care of the football. I mean, they've started three quarterbacks a season. J.J. McCartney, and he's looking pretty decent. He sure is, man. A lot better than I thought he was going to look because you thought, hey, this guy's with Kevin O'Connell, the quarterback, cute quarterback, whisper. This guy's going to get him dialed and they ship him off. And then he comes to John and the giants. And I'm like, he looks like a, he looks like a diet dart. He looks like diet. Darn is, he might be the new nickname nine squared. We'll see a diet. Darn it. I love it. It's the truth. He's playing himself. He's playing him. He's playing himself into a little quarterback thing. Look, I don't want to say controversy yet. It's a thing quite yet. But yeah, it is because if he keeps on playing well, I mean, they're leading the vision. Yes. I've doing one. You know, so it's, it's, it's real, I think it is real. But with that being said, Jules, big question. Are they a serious contender in the NFC to you? Not quite yet. Okay. Not quite yet. They're playing solid football. But like until they don't have like a great run game, right? They don't have, they, they're past game when they're, they're in must pass situations isn't always quite tight enough to be like a team that's going to go out and win ball games. The defense is coming along. They got a lot of guys on the defensive line, but they don't have a great secondary. Like it's just, they're solid right now. These next four weeks are going to be very telling because this division's tight. It is. You know, I know the Cowboys, you can't rely on them, but they still have a lot of firepower and offense. And I do believe the Cowboys defense will continue to get better. They got a lot of new players and it takes time to get these guys on the same page. These, these dangerous commanders, like Jaden Daniels two years ago was in the NFC championship. Okay. And, and Quinn, he's, he's going to get that defense. Defense always gets better when the season start to change. And we're about to start to see, especially in this division in Washington, in New York and Philly. The season's about to change. The weather's going to get cold. It's going to get tougher to, to move the football. But you know, the commanders have Jaden Daniels. You look at Philly. Yeah. Are they punting this year? But still, I don't know. They still have a lot of great guys on that defense. Vic Vangel is going to always have a solid plan. The offense is kind of all all over the place. But Zuka Joe Milton live arm, maybe live arm. And he had some excitement last week with his legs, too. He really did brought the juice. But I wouldn't go out and say there are contender quite yet. These next three, four weeks are going to be very telling. Agreed. Agreed. And they got not to overlook tonight's game Jaguars next week. That's a measuring stick game for me. Yeah. Giants, Jags, Giants, Jags that if you play bad against the Jags, they will embarrass you. They beat the crap out of bad football. I don't think they'll do that to John Harball and these giants. I don't think so either. I mean, it's very, it does feel very coughlingly. The Nip coughling. Speaking of coughling, Jags, Giants, synergy. There you go. That's the time. I'm Kaflin Bull next week. Jules, you talked about it a little bit with the Jaden Daniels High Watermark being at 2024 season. Do you think that will be the High Watermark of this version of the commanders? - Probably so. - Okay, it just, they're playing tough for their coach. - They are, they're not rolling over. - They're not rolling over, they're losing games but they're losing games tight. They're not getting blown out. They have a quarterback that's very dangerous. But ever since they moved on from Cliff. - Yeah. - It seems like they, Cliff Kingsbury, that is. It seems like the offense is not taking any steps forward. They don't have a run game. All the receivers are hurt. They're kind of relying on Jaden and his playmaking ability. I just, they don't have a lot. - Right, and then the story of Jaden's health has kind of been the big thing. - Like, you can't rely on that right now. I know, you know, and I just don't think, I don't think they got enough. - I'm with him. - It's sad because, you know, Dan Quinn, you know, he's a good coach. He's a good guy. But that's what happens when you're a defensive coach. You let, you know, the offense a guy go for some whatever reason it was. They're going with new offensive coordinators every couple of years. They got a young guy, wow, he's like 31, trying to figure out something, doesn't have much experience developed. I mean, how much experience can a 31-year-old have developing literally, you know, a quarterback? - It's true. - So I think that could be their high mark. I think they're going to be a very solid, like tough team that's always going to be dangerous and that could put it together and knock teams off. But I can't, I can't take them serious right now. - I'm with you. I'm with you. - But I can't take them serious right now. Either way, it's going to be a great one tonight. Tools, if you got to make your pick, who are you picking tonight? - I got to go with Harbaugh. - Gotta go Harbaugh. - I'm gonna go with Harbaugh. You know, I just think he's fundamentally sound. They have a swagger about their team. They got the young guns, even though darts out, seems like nine squared came in and kind of filled that void for him. They're going to get scatter boo back tonight, which doesn't make a crazy difference, but it brings juice. He brings juice to the team. It doesn't bring a lot of production, but he brings juice. He'll get you that third and sixth on a flat route where he'll run someone over and everyone gets together on the sideline. They see that. They see his energy and brings them together. They play tough special teams. They're just a well-rounded football team that's still trying to figure out how to score points. - Yep. - So I think, you know, in New York, John Harbaugh will get these guys. - John Wright, I like it, stamp it, giants, baby. Let's see what these G-men got tonight. The NFL can be unpredictable, but there's one thing you can guarantee will be hot and ready on game day. And that's Little Caesar's pizza. Little Caesars is the official pizza of the NFL and the Gronk and Jules show. That's officially delicious. Get 15% off, orders of $15 or more with code, Fox NFL. Verizon knows holiday decisions and holiday deals can be complicated from hosting my family to making sure the food comes out perfect and trying to watch the game. Look, I spent a whole career doing two-minute drills and memorizing crazy game plans and honestly, holiday chaos might be more stressful. If you want at least one simple decision this season, check out the Ryzen Simplicity Plan. They took all the guesswork out. 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Anyone who's served men and women to give us our freedoms. They let us come out and do this, this sloppy show because what they do on a day-to-day basis, just when you were at West Point, when you're there, and I'm sure it's the same in Annapolis. I've never got to go to Annapolis or Air Force, but there's a sense of standard. Everyone's there trying to make themselves better. Every cadet, every mid-shipman. You know, they're just, they're out there. They're sacrificing their youth. They're their 20s to go out there and make themselves the best they can be. And it's so impressive when you go there, especially at West Point, man. You get to go and especially this time of year, it's fall, foliage is everywhere. You're going up the Hudson River and you see West Point where the blockade took place where George Washington set the blockade during the Revolutionary War and took out those brits, took them out. Let's go, George. Let's go, George. Yes, shout out. Shout out, George. Hey, shout out, West Point. Shout out to West Point. Shout out to the Vets. Shout out to Manjou Cordona. Shout out to the lieutenant. The lieutenant, they have a rule. We call them. We love them. And speaking of, speaking of bettering yourself, schools and responsibility. Very responsible at West Point. We're going to carry some of that responsibility over into responsible wagers. It's that time. It is that time. Last week before you even asked, the record was six and three. Okay, what were we the week before? I believe we were five and two or six and three. I got to check the tape. I mean, that's kind of. It's back to back one new week. I know that much. It's kind of hitty. Kind of hitty. It's kind of back to back to back. I don't want to back him in the push. That's not responsible to be talking about. Yes. Because then you run into the jinks territory. But we just got to say it. You got it. You got to. Numbers or numbers? Facts or facts? We're not number. Like old coach used to say, we're not stat guys, but we'll rattle off all the stats. All right, darn right. We'll make a point about it. We're not stat guys. That's that guy's bull rattle off all the stats. Facts or facts? I don't get that. I don't know. I don't know. We're not stat guys. You know what? I don't want every stat. I got that way. We're not stat guys. Classic coach speak. I love it. Oh my goodness. We got to start. This brings me to my next point. We're going to start. We're going to start using these bucks. We're making to a good cause. What should we do? I don't know. We got to think about that. Maybe we'll sign off in the comments. I think we should. We should we should come up with like a way dream. We need to come up with a system. Yes. And then whatever we win at the end of the year, we give it to something. Yes. We give it to a good charity. A worthy charity. A cause. Yeah. Something. We'll figure it out. We got to use this responsibility. For good. We got to be responsible for the good. Amen. And first up, Jules. We're going in the lines. We love these are the spreads. Opening lines. Of course. First up, Jules. We'll propose to you, Jaguars, Titans, Jags, minus 10. You know, we don't love big spreads over here. I don't love these. Jags will Jaguars. I don't like big spreads in division, but the Jags are, they're on a heater. Heater. Heater. What they did in the trade deadline. I mean, I mean, the defense is getting bolstered. Bolstered brother. Would they, they brought in Jordan Davis from film? That was a big one. He's a big guy. They lose their big detackle. They bring in Jordan Davis. They bring in Jesse Bates, who is a sneaky, really great safety. From Atlanta. You know, he's, when you're on a crappy team, people forget about you. This is true. And Devon Godshaw. Former Patriot. Former Patriot. He's a, he's a pretty good football player. Yep. So they're going to have to stop that run. They're bolstering that line, baby. You know, I, I know Cam Warden, the boys have been having their best performances last couple weeks. But I don't know, man. I, I think that I love the Jaguars and these minus 10 rolling and they beat the crap. Look what they did in the last two weeks, 20 plus in each of these games. I mean, the average margin of victory is crazy. Beat the crap out of Baltimore. Beat the crap out of Indy. That's what you got to do if you're an elite football team. You're a Lee football team and you handle the business that you have to handle. Unlike the dang Dallas Cowboys that are losing games that they shouldn't be losing. They're tricking them off, man, you know, they're a well-rounded football team, special teams. They got really good returners. Good. One of the probably the best kicker in the league right now came little, but the leg big defense. They got players on every, every. Every level. These aren't your daddy's Jacksonville Jaguars. Is there Mark Brinnell back there? No. Mark Brinnell brought them to a championship. That's true. I take that back. I'm sorry no shit and left which anger art. This is it could be it could be Even the boat even the boat bro the boat brought them to the UFC championship the boat had the Pats on the like yeah, it's on our heels man and I'm on the brain shout out gilly. Oh my goodness gracious. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry for the shade of the past jacks. I'm telling you the jacks hate on the jacks, but they've had some good team. I love Duval man. This is my favorite team of the year this Duval parker Washington. I mean beast. I love these guys. I love. We gotta get parker washing on the mic have to get them on the mic. We're gonna get them on this show. We got to get them on. I would kill to have old P wash on, but I think they handle business. I think they're gonna. I love this one. I love this one too. Next up. I think it's responsible bills at jets bills minus seven and a half. It feels responsible to me. The jets dropped four in a row coming off a bad loss in Kansas City 35 to 12 Buffalo's been grading into spread this season five and two. I know it's a short week. They had to play on Monday night. Busted the Vikings. Buffalo has won five in a row versus jets and four of those five jewels. Very telling by double digits. Four of those last five wins double digits. Gets. Yeah. I love what the bills did at the trade deadline. Yes. Bringing in hooker with Leonard Leonard, their defensive coordinator. They remind me a lot of each other. Very savvy. Safety's. That's what Jimmy Linner was. I played against Jimmy Linner to lot. He wasn't like physically the blessed guy, but he always had the defense in the right spots. And if the bills can do that, their D lines, the best D line they've had in a minute with Ed Oliver back. A couple of young guys on the edge. I really think the bills are going to are going to want the jets. I do too. We got to give a little shine to hooker. I mean, he has to have maybe one of the best years of his career. Yeah. Six past breakups, 52 tackles, five picks. Five picks. He's balling quietly down there to the sea. You know, I mean, that's what they needed. But like if you look at the bills defensive front though, like they've been playing tough and the bills can jump on. If they can jump on you and get a lead and play from ahead, then that's when that defense is going to start to really flourish. Agreed. So I really love the bills minus seven and a half at the jets. Heck yes. Stamp it. Responsible. Moving on, Jules. Chiefs at Falcons. Chiefs minus three and a half on the road here. Kansas City four and four can spread this year. Atlanta three and six. ATS Falcons. Also, don't forget coming back from Madrid. That ain't easy. Madrid. And that was a tough L. They took over there. And I know they beat Green Bay. They beat San Francisco a couple of weeks ago. But this just does not seem like the same juxtap, juxtap Falcons team. No, the Falcons are so up and down, and you can't you think you're going to be up on a Kansas City Chiefs that they're fighting right now. Fight. I think the Chiefs are going to are going to beat them on the right. I'll be six. Okay. I like that. But at least indoors. Yep. And don't go worry about anything. Spags can have a plan for the run game. Penics hasn't been looking that good. And I'm really interested to see how downs gets folded into this mix. Agreed. For the Chiefs offense. I think they're going to have a little juice with that. So I like the Chiefs at three and a half. I love it. Giving three and a half in Atlanta. Heck yes. Stamp it. Three for three unresponsibility so far today. Next up, Jules, let's hit the over-unders here real quick. Patriots lions in Germany. Doyschlein. Doyschlein. The over-under here is 51 and a half Detroit has gone over this number in five of their eight games. The Patriots defense right now. I mean, we can't stop nothing. We can't stop a thing brother. Letting up 30 and 45 against NFC North high-powered offenses this year coming off a really, really rough performance against Green Bay. What do you think 51 and a half over-under here, Jules? I'm liking it. I love the over. I love the over because with what the Patriots put out there on defense last week, you know the lions, especially with St. Brown going home. That's like his second home. He's got the German mom. He's going to be doing all the the Doyschlein stuff. He's probably going to have 150 in front of the Germans. And I still think the Patriots against the lion's defense, they're going to score. Yes. So I love this over. I do too. I really do. Hey, how was that German food last night, by the way? It was good. It was good. It was hitting. You know, we had a little spetzel. We had a little schnitzel. I liked the roll call. The red cabbage. You know, a little cucumber salad. Play the hits, baby. Play the hits. Hey, you got to eat it to celebrate Germany week for the Patriots. That's why that's why I ordered it. You know, I said a little. You want to get the German food. She's like, let's do it. Yes, baby. I love it. Shout out, Oma. Next up, Jules, dolphins, colts. You might think, oh, gross matchup. Oh, gross one. The over under here, only 40 and a half. I like the over. The Miami's gone over this in half their games this season. Indies defense, 28th in total defense. Not great. Both teams in the bottom 10 scoring defense-wise. Miami let him 25 points game. Indie let him up almost 28. It feels like one of those matchups where it's two bad teams. Malik's just kind of going at it. Malik's on IR. I know that's starting for quarterback for Miami. It's the kid from Ohio State. A chord. Yes, a common chord. I like Indie. I think Indie's going to score some points because it's one of those games where like it's an NFL reminder, even that they're dumping all their players. They still have NFL football players. For sure. And Miami. I don't, you know, is this responsible? Maybe we deem it irresponsible. I think this is it responsible. All right. Stamp it. We'll stay away. This is your response. Stay away. Stay away. We're coming from West Point. You can't. We can't put any eggs and any baskets on any of these two teams for doing anything good. Sorry, Kyle McCord. Sorry. Irresponsible. We'll stay away from it this week. We're staying away. Yep. Next up mixed up. This one I'm also on the fence about Jags Titans over 44 and a half. Tennessee is scored 25 plus in each of their last three games. The Jags on the other hand, 30 plus in each of their last three games. I think the Jags could score like 35 points themselves. That's what I'm saying. Because you look at the Baltimore game last week, they put up 40 themselves. Yeah. I like the over on this. It's a very, it's a very low under and you know, cam ward and dayball. They've been slanging it. They're slanging right now. I'm going to get 300 points. Two. Yeah. I mean, two. And then I could also see this like backdoor hitting saying garbage time when Tennessee is taking out all their new toys on defense. So I love this one. He got T law on the bench and the fourth. I mean, he's on the bench all the time. That's how you know, because they're blown teams out. I was going to say that's what we like to see. Okay. I think this one's responsible enough. That's responsible. We'll take that over. Stamp it last, but certainly not least. Jules. Everyone's favorite. Slap machine, wide receiver, prop of the week. We're doing some a little different this time. We consulted with our man. Sammy. Sammy loves an outline. We call him. Sammy. All men. That's the new nickname. Southeast Sammy. Oh, so Sammy. Oh, man. We got the outline here. We're sticking with Thursday night football. Digs, four plus receptions. Malik neighbors, five plus receptions. You pair these two together. These are two outlines. That will give you a line or a a payout of plus one 19, so better 100 to 100 19 with those two. I love that. I think a little wild here. But I do think digs has been consistently getting targets up there. He's been a kind of a security blanket, if you will, for for Jaden and Malik on the other hand. I mean, he's a catch machine and a target machine five, seven, 12, 11 catches in the last five games. And I heard he's reading a book right now about body language. Oh, I don't know. What inspired that? I don't know. I just heard he's got a book that he's reading body language for dummies. Hey, it's important for the chemistry. We got to. That's right. My guy. He's been hearing the heat about it. He's gonna have a big game. Amen. Stamp. I like this one. I love this one. Let's dip our toes in the alt waters. Alt waters. We'll do it. Same for you, Sam. This is for you. And then Jules, he might not technically be a receiver. Might not technically be a slot guy. But we're going to say he's kind of like a receiver. Isaiah likely likely in there this week. I love me. This line. I know. Isaiah likely. Oh my god. Shout out to Shanta clears. Isaiah likely over 48.5 receiving yards. I think this is money, honey. This is money. It doesn't matter who's in because you saw when James came in. Who do you throw the touchdown pastor likely likely likely. You see when nine squared went in there. Who is he going to likely likely. I mean, he's going over this number in four of the last five. He's likely going to go over this number likely. He is certainly going to go over this. Certain. Oh, I mean, 9.7 yards per catch. He's got 99 yard game and 94 yard game 66 yard game this season. Love steady. Isaiah likely. 48 and a half. Me too. And how about guy we mentioned earlier in the show. We're going to mention him again. We're gonna give him some love. Than the man Jefferson. His line is at 20.5 receiving yards. I think we take that over. I love that over because he was getting targets all week. Oh my God. How about that? And when Jay, you know, Jayden, he was throwing him. He had a couple of bombs to him. Yes. When a quarterback sees that the guy can go that he's throwing bombs to can get a couple of them. What makes you think he's not going to go back to him the next week? Exactly. With that much production last week, five catches, not 59 yards in the study. Seven targets. And I think he could he could he could cover that with one catch agreed. You know, and maybe only have two targets. But one of them will be over that. He's downfield the receiver. He's a downfield receiver. Digs are going to be up in the intermediate stuff. Van Jefferson's going to have at least one or two targets because you know that the giants are probably going to get very aggressive. Try to bring some blitz zero stuff on Jayden Daniels. But Jayden Daniels over his, you know, three year career showed that he he doesn't get all he doesn't get all fumbled when the blitz zero comes at him. He knows how to defeat that. And Van Jefferson's going to be a great target for that. Stand in there and slang it slang it. I love it. Let's go. These are three for three hundred. These are responsible. Guys, follow the responsibility path and you'll be all right. We got winning weeks and we're going to keep building on that and Mo and I know Isaiah is not a slot or a receiver. But this is the Grand Conjual show. So we got to give us some tight ends. I'm love to got to. Maybe got it. Got to got it. Let's go, baby. Let's get another winning week under our belt. Godspeed, everybody. Man, what an episode. And thanks again to Greg Olsen. Grunk and I will be back on Monday with an all new episode. Subscribe to the Grunk and Jules show on Apple podcasts. Spotify. Wherever you listen to your podcast, we'll see you there.