Greg From WW2 Recon

As a good evening, welcome to the Happy Few History and Adore Set podcast. I'm Laten, thank you for joining me for another episode. And what I've wanted to do for a while, got World War Two Recon, aka Greg, joining us. And love his posts, love sharing them, love tag them in here, and love seeing them share my posts. So I thought let's get him on and start chatting with him and had a few things in common. And yeah, Greg, how are you? I'm good mate, thanks for having me on. Thanks for joining me mate, thanks for joining me. Yeah, really honored, like was just chatting before we came on listening to the podcasts, quiet on honor, you've had Ben Mayne, Adam Berry, John Mutt Monness, and then for me to get invited on is a privilege mate, thank you. So it was, I put, I took a way slipping Kevin Heimel next, sort of put Greg in. I haven't got Kevin Heimel by the way, but no, no, thank you mate, no, I just, I, you know, you sort of really positive on our posts and I, you know, we follow each other and I think we just, you know, I love it and I just see that you've started doing then and now's and just, and then just chatting with you, I think it just, I think we came across some common, you know, what's your call, you know, common, what's the word I'm thinking of, like sort of like there's a lot of crossover I want to say with just, you know, even personal lives or form, you know, professional lives, you know, and where we've, you know, what we've done or we used to do, etc. And, and just, yeah, it's just, and just seeing you do the then and now's, I think man, I love that. And you know, we're sharing hours and, you know, you know, you, you feedbacks, we're amazing. And it's always like, you know, always question yourself sometimes if, like the stuff I do is like, well, stuff, you know, you may do, you know, is it, is it interesting to engage in when people are sort of giving you that positive feedback? I think it's quite, it sort of drives you on, doesn't it? And you sort of, it does make, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But obviously you see it. And then as soon as light says, you get a positive comment that someone who can't make it more has been there, didn't realise. And then you've sort of linked that past to what they experience. And you know, to get them like positive comments, thanking you for just sharing a comparison of a photo, basically. And, and it's always, so my interest in started way before, like World War II, then and now's. So when I was a kid, there was some books that existed of my hometown. And by the time I'd grown up, the town was like so reconstructed, I make it sound like I'm like quite young, but I'm not. And like a railway line used to run, like, used to be quite a major railway line. But then to see it as I knew it, I couldn't imagine it. So it was always good to then tie. I recognised that house. But that railway and back of my isn't there anymore. So now to obviously fast forward and seeing everyone on socials that will find a then and now and share them, just fascinating, fascinating. No, I couldn't agree more mate. And from movies, you know, and I think somebody made a comment on it on the Facebook, you know, on the page, when I put, band the brothers when I'm saying, "Well, you're just copying everyone else." And that's the TV show of movie. And I'm like, it's not exclusive to one particular thing, you know. And I've, like, like we just said then, I've, I've seen so many people doing it. I want to say my friend, my friend, Sander, I saw them before I even met Sander and, you know, yarn from D-Day history. And I met yarn and Normandy for, you know, or two foundation, a friend. I couldn't believe I was meeting this guy, you know, and he was just like, "I got to love your content." It's so amazing. I wish I could do that. And you can. I think that's a thing though. I think anyone can do it. You know, I'm always quite nervous about putting myself in front of the camera. I'm still dragging out an edit because I think I'm just probably just nervous. I just want to make it right as best I can. But I think that then and now's, I think for somebody who has a history, interesting history, like, and they sort of, you know, suppose nervous about putting themselves in front of the camera. I think it's just an easy way of, like, creating content. Yeah, absolutely mate. It is, yeah. But I have to say, I'm exactly the same I've done a couple of videos, like the back end of last year because I live up in the world now and I would all spore on the doorstep and I've been affirmed on the old airfield there. Now nature is there mate. If you ever up this way, come up and get a shout. I've filmed on the runway and it's gated. So, like, it's not just a free-for-all. And just talking to yourself is actually a bit more nerve-wracking than, like, us chatting now. Yeah. Or, you know, chatting it, like, say, professional lives. We've both probably talked in front of hundreds of people, like, just on your own and you're comfortable. But as soon as you get in front of that camera, it's a different kettle of fish. I know. I know. I can actually, our mind is really just head to it, you know, are quite chaphead with you. But yeah, no, exactly what you mean. I did one, I could have video, I did a few weeks ago, I say, probably a few weeks ago now when, I said, I'm in this common land, thankfully, it's not gated and I've probably got to get back down it again before I get too overgrown for the summer. And yeah, really, it's like, I keep chatting to myself, cut, do again. I sort of do this little part in front of my face, move my hand on, if I'm just so I can, when I'm editing, I think that's more of it, you know, but still I'm like, nope, don't like that, do it again, cut, you know, it is, it's weird. And I feel like I'm taking lessons, learned to know about you, like, how to improve it next time. And yeah, absolutely. And maybe next time I'll have some, I'll have some prom cards or I start building up like, I don't know how you go about things, but you feel like you've got to go prepared, and I think if you wing it, I think I winged mine a little bit, I think I have enough of a base knowledge to get me over the finish line. I also felt like if I prepared myself, I think I'd be in a lot more smoother with what I want to talk about. Yeah, I think I've done it both ways, I've tried making a script, but then it's like the retention of trying to keep that script in, there's like, you find yourself stopping and starting and stopping and so yeah, well, tomorrow I'm stopping by, we'll chat memorials later on and just document like a couple of memorials in short, short videos, but in sort of long form. Yeah, and do then. Yeah, I've had a bit of research into memorials at the minute, because the amount of crash sites up and around bomber counties, just unreal. Also the bomber, so the bomber crash site memorials, so I just just put it like village memorial, they're actually, wow, they're like individuals like aircraft crashes, yeah, there's more than I can name that I've seen and it's good to see that being honored, like in such tragic circumstances. And that's from a British perspective that they're being honored, because I feel like the Americans get more mentioned than the Brits, without defending the Americans on this, but so even in the UK, I went to Downton Arby, or where they filmed Downton Arby, they're the big house and there's a bit of a crash site. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and there's a B17 crash site memorial. How is this? Yeah, there's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a live round there and never knew that. Yeah, there's rights, it's sort of in a garden area. I forget which bomb grouper is, I love to look at my photos. And if I vaguely remember, again, it pauses if I get this wrong, we're sort of towards the end of the war, which makes it even worse, like sort of, you know, even killed in action, that you kill. Now, again, I probably have to look a little bit research on that particular aircraft and why, you know, how it crashed, but just you're over like friendly land, you know, you're over sort of, you know, friendly territory. Sorry, sorry, so it's, but yeah, I'm just trying to think that you've got me thinking I know there's one windrash near sort of in the cotswolds towards Oxfordshire, Spitfire pilot, Train Eek, because again, there's so much, yeah, I don't if you've ever been on this area. It's incredible for like airfields. I spent four and a half years living in Hampshire and there's some mental like, like you've got all the D-day stuff around there. But then like, there's one, now just outside, I want to say, Portsmouth, Plimeth is the one further downing it, but yeah, it's just like in between Bayes and Stoke and like Portsmouth way on. And join next-size dream, DREME if you want to have a look into that. There's a glider being towed by Sterling in April '44 just before D-day. And as it was flying over the hills, there's like an Iron Four around there. It can't from life, I may remember exactly in a point back and send you the little link as to where it is. Please do. And it's flying low level, though altitude. And being towed by Sterling, and as it comes in over this Iron Four, it clips the tree line. It must have released the glider, because both the damage, glider, lands, crushing the field, and that killed all 27 men. And it was like carrying 25 from the 7th Airborne, the King's own Scottish borderers. Yeah, and yeah, so all 25 of them died, I think it was the Platoon A company. They all perished and they're two glider pilots. So that particular memorial that's now in the fields where it crashed, it went unacknowledged for 78 years, I think it was. Oh wow. Yeah, and the memorial was only unveiled in 2022. So, that's incredible. Just makes you think how many have gone crashed. And I know these one that we'll talk about a bit later on, it's got a bit more of a story to it as well. As far as I know, it doesn't have a memorial for it. So, but that story is just fascinating. But yeah, the Sterling from that incident went on in the 18 miles and crashed just outside Rumsy, which unfortunately also killed all 6 Air crew in that as well. Wow. So, of course, that crashed, you know what caused it? Yeah, so it was fine low level, it was a thick fog, like low level or fog. But I'm assuming there must have been trying to get low beneath the fog, but yeah, just clip to tree on a hill and unfortunately crashed. Oh wow. So, wow, okay. I'm sorry, I'm trying to think on my head round like, first of all, why would you take off in fog or I take a wedding through into fog or not really interesting. Yeah, I've not really found like the circumstances of how it came to be in that weather, the fog came in off. It's quite close to the sea. So, you know what the weather's like coming in off the sea, just moving quite quickly. Yeah. But yeah, it's quite a sad story. Where do they fly from? Do you know where they flew from? I don't make it, to be honest. Seven people and I have to look at that. Oh, actually, I think that is, I have a great book. I picked it up from this this jet age museum just outside Bloster. Yeah. And it's like three pound and it was the history of gliders and it's just got so much information in there, you know, from, you know, the early conception and then obviously D-Day, market garden, varsity, I believe. And you need to double check that and it's just documents like, you know, who flew from where and what times and what dates. And this is, you know, stats and that's from the British and that's from the American as well. So, that'd be really interesting. Wow, that's a really fascinating story. That's incredible. And you're right, I think. And there's a memorial there now, though, you say. There is for the glide, yeah, I didn't go to, I saw, I know where the impact point is of the sterling crash, but I never went to that area. But yeah, there is one for the glider now with a glider. Wow. And that just like takes back to the, you know, the honouring of memorials, like the puppy reefs there, you know, crosses from the year before, you know, as they do, they then get refreshed. So, there is some societies out there that are still honouring our own memorials, like even 81, 82 years on. There's one, I'd have to look at my friend Luke, he's in the same lane of work as you are. We met, you know, overseas and I was asking about something. And I want to, oh yeah, I wanted to ask him about a question, I can't remember what it was now, it was a bit quite random. What's he going to help me say, because if he's, you know, what's he going to do with it, or he works with or who for, I was just looking for a phone number. And he goes, hey, I've just been to Normandy, you know, about me, Dinda Boko and to Normandy, oh my guys. And I was just thinking about you, I was like, oh, thanks. And, but not just that though, it's, it goes, oh, there's a memorial happens near where he is around Salisbury, I want to say. I'd have to look now and I think that's all to do with, it's the airborne, but I think it's for market garden. And you just have a look now. I, we've just said that about that really sort of, and it's, it's, it's, like, it is great to see that these things are popping up because there's, I hate to say it, it is quite a few American things, even now certainly Suffolk way. But I think there's so much more, I think there's a lot of crash sites, even away from Suffolk and all over the UK, obviously, bomber county. I mean, I hate myself for not going up there enough. I mean, I was very lucky to go up there last year work and do a look, a, a one day. Yeah. I don't say battlefield talks, wasn't really this, visiting a couple of sites and we finished off a, a pet wood, which was incredible to visit and go in the bar. Yeah. That was incredible. That was, um, and I mean, how is if you live in that area because you are surrounded by history? Honestly, it's fascinating, but as you know, um, I mean, this in the nicest possible way, Lincolnshire. Oh, this area of Lincolnshire doesn't feel like it's moved on from the second world war. Oh, really? And, and I mean it in like such a positive way, the villages are so beautiful, quain, still have that old feel about, um, driving through them. As you drive into East Kirk, the little villages, uh, that way on, you know, it's just stunning. And, and yeah, thankfully, the modern type of building hasn't caught up and, you know, I feel that sometimes spoils the lovely quaint villages like that. So, yeah, it's stunning. I'm so happy I moved up here. And that's, um, obviously, I had to go via, I don't think it's where we started talking more. I had to go via Lincolnshire a few weeks ago, um, pick up something and picked up something from a guy in Boston. And he said, oh, this is first airborne division area. Like, yeah, wow. And I'm just like, and part of me is like, man, I, you know, it's something to say in my head, it's like, well, I need to read up about that now. I need to find something on that now. And, and I think when somebody says saying to you and you traveling through that area, and you're absolutely right, I mean, that was probably my second visit to Lincolnshire. I mean, in a year, but even going from last year, first time in such a long time, I can't remember the last time I went to Lincolnshire. Um, I don't think I ever did really, other than briefly with work, yeah, years and years ago. And, um, so I suppose, yeah, this first time I've really, really gone there, um, but I need to come back to you. Absolutely right. It's absolutely stunning. So from, I was going to do some aviation photography, but I had to skip that because the chat I was with, but we're on a really good chat. And I sort of, I, yeah, extended my stay longer than I thought I, oh, I planned to. And so I carried on to what I wanted to do, all where I was going to go afterwards was bin brook. So there's a road, a group, it's just a straight road from, you know, from where he was in the, in the Boston area. Um, and there's a church outside his house, which he's, he's been pointed out some graves to me, which is really fascinating. Um, and then just, they're just the drive to, to, to bin brook where that's, if you took away the, the, the, the fencing around, from around the buildings, I would look like a, still a work in RAF camp. Yeah. It's insane how many buildings are still there, bar of blocks, although they're not slam or anything like that, super blocks. Um, it was just absolutely phenomenal. You got to use two massive one to three hangers, I'm sorry, so maybe there's a couple more, but, and it's just honestly, it's incredible. It's, it's, I mean, the control towers have gone, um, the one from the movie I believe was a prop. There's two control towers. If you watch the open and a Memphis bell, you see two control towers, you see one in the middle of, um, or sort of one that sits in front of, uh, the, the fangers and then it's sort of past that and you see the actual, another control tower, which is the prop one, is what obviously they're watching, you know, um, John Lithigo when, um, the Colonel watching me a craft come in. And it's, but still regardless of that, it's just phenomenal. I highly recommend, say, highly recommend, um, if you're a Memphis bell fan you've got to go and, and see some of the places, because you will see some things from Memphis bell that's still there. Yeah. You know, some things you need to go and speak to someone for access. I think I was very, very lucky that by the time I got there, um, I wouldn't say they were getting ready to close shop, but they were in far off and the chat, I just said it who I was or not who I was. Sorry, that makes me sound like this absolute arrogant rock star. I just said, and the Memphis bell fan in that sense, that's who I am. And I'm doing these little things for the internet. Can I, you know, go and find them and without the okay and. It's like, yeah, no problem. They showed me your own. And it was just, I think it's being polite to get to so far. - I think not only that as well, obviously, yeah. Man has gone a long way, don't they? But you then highlight that museum as well, like your content getting out like that. And like, maybe, you know what? See, Memphis Bell, who knows how many times? But I never actually realized it was filmed at Bimbrook. - Yeah, I think I've known for a few years. I've wanted to go for a few years, but I've just never got next, I've never got to Lincolnshire. - Yeah. - And let's just have the road from you. - Yeah, I know, yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things I need to take off. Now, I've been here for too long and I've still got, yeah, a lot, a lot on the list that needs to take off. - And then is, I think sometimes when you work and you sort of forget where you are, I think I said this to the other day, where I was, you know, about 15 years ago, and I'll make some, you know, old. But I was in the sort of, I worked around hunting then. When I was there for three years. And I don't get what I'm a massive, I love B17s, I love the 8th Air Force, I love B17s. And I think I'll deduct for it until the end of, you know, my stay at my three years where I moved to the West Midlands. But not only that, but where I was, I was close to Alcombury, Holbrook, Kim Bolton, Chilveston, Graften Underwood. - Yeah. - And there's one by St. Neitz with the SOE flu from, I forget the name of that every time. And I need to go there before that turns into a housing estate because apparently there's plans to do that. And I'm like, I'm just thinking to myself, 'cause I was reading World War II history or certainly history, but I wasn't necessarily a Air Force. I think I was still on this Span the Brothers High of reading about airborne and other units. And although like we just said, and the amount of time to watch Memphis Bar, probably probably the gateway. I say, not the gateway, but certainly started me enjoying military hardware. And that was when I came, it was 1991, I wanna say, 91, right, you know. You know, but that was just, I just started the process, you know, and then obviously, I did read Line State Private Ryan, Banda Brothers, you know. And I think it was probably just after Banda Brothers, I started reading and sort of kicked myself, I got to know about you, but I suppose maybe you're at an age now where you are, where you live in, Hettwood, Bama County or Bama Country, sorry, it's, yeah, how is it? How is that? Like just all these places on a doorstep? - I'm much to say, mate, and I'm sure there's many, throughout the world that like Banda Brothers, like that Banda Brothers high, well, I think you could probably even rewind a little bit. It started when Steven Private Ryan came out. - Yeah. - And we all know that Steven Private Ryan has got his flaws in history, but it's a movie. Banda Brothers again, the book and the actual TV series, stray from each other, and I think a history, but yeah, I think that then sent, like even though the, the ultimate foundations go back to like the black and white films, as we were growing up as kids, we know watching it with Dad and Granddad, but then started reading, Steven Yambos as Banda Brothers came out, realized that there's more, you know, and then yeah, it just goes from there, didn't it? And then you then start to see like more and more, or notice more and more, museums, I mean, another fantastic museum down your way, and now it's moved, is it a tank museum? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't been there yet. I did go there. - You definitely need to go just to see the tiger running is something. - I'd love to go. - It's on the list. Again, don't know what I haven't. And there's so more, I'm finding out so more sort of, I don't know about where you were, you lived, the County Regiment Museums as well. - Yeah, I mean, there's one in Gloucester. I didn't even know they fought in Korea, you know, and it's, I think it was the Battle of, or River Imjin. So I think it was the Battle of Imjin or the River Imjin. Again, I thought it was if I'd got that role. And I know the base outside Gloucester is, and I'd love, you know, Innsworth. - Yeah, yeah. - It's now called Imjin Barracks. And I just thought, what an unusual name that is. And it was only maybe last week or the week before that I realized it's based on, you know, the Korean War, the Battle of Korean War. - Yeah, yeah. - And I was, I didn't know that. It's like, wow, yeah. 'Cause I always found out quite random, you know, you're in the, you know, you're sort of in Gloucester sharing, you know, it's quite an unusual name, which is in English, or British, or what is it. And I just, I definitely, you know, thought about googling or anything like that. So I just thought, okay, they just grabbed the name off of a hat. But it's relating back to a Gloucester and the Gloucester Shirt and the Regiment and the Korean War. And I was like, yeah, that's a rabbit for what I need to go down now. (laughing) - Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's a lot of things that based on like battles and battle honors for those units, isn't it? - Yeah, there is. And there's a museum up on Wustershire and the Wustershire Regiment. Then you go another direction. You've got the Oxenbucks Museum. - Yeah. - You know, it's just like, it's just, and then if I go a little bit further, you've got Reckon, which is the Royal Welsh Museum, which I, as well, you know, if you're, you know, it's just a fan of the movie Zulu. - Yeah. - It's got a lot of stuff there. And I remember going there as a kid. And just, I was more interested in the Zulu stuff, the Rocks, you know, the Rocks Drift stuff, because like, what you just said there, you know, as you're a kid, you know, you're a father, a grandfather, watching all these war movies. So to see stuff from Rocks Drift is what caught my attention and nothing else. - Yeah. - But I still can't remember, I saw Rocks Drift, 'cause it's been that long ago. So I went to that museum. But you right though, it's, I think you can just pick up on something and you can just, like, a switch. - Yeah. - Of what you look into. And, and I think, God, I'm trying to think, now I think, you know, gone back, you know, we've stuck with now and thens or then and nows. It's like seeing the content online from my friend, Sander from Jan D. Day and all the other pages and even the movie ones, which I still find, you know, even though probably nothing's changed, I still find the fascinating to see where a movie was filmed or a TV show. You know, and, and if I'm able to go there or not, just, you know, it's just, well, that's pretty cool to see. But it's just, it can, it can feed something and go, well, you know, seeing local history and I don't know about you and if this has sort of been on, on your wavelength. But you know, with being up in Borma Command country and doing more there is just something different with then and now is it's all great seeing the world, you know, so the battles over in mainland Europe. But I quite, I don't know why I just like the idea of the British based stuff, you know, in the build up the training or just a day in a life of a serviceman, you know, walking in town. I really like that. Yeah, it's a bit more like a romantic feel of that war side, isn't it? The real life feel like so you go back to Petwood. There's many photos of, you know, like just to, to air crew just on the balcony, you know, I'm a laugh. I've an a pint on a cigarette. And then you've got Guy Gibson posing with the group captain. His name escapes me. Like, you know, just like nothing's wrong. You don't know if they've just flown back from a mission. They just have gone a mission. Some of them going to come back. Yeah. It's just that that normal side of the military life and they're at war as well. I know it's mental, isn't it? It's and you can sort of look at that with the the ATA force. I think, you know, massive beer shows it 12 o'clock high. The war level with Steve McQueen. You see that and there's a British version of it as well. I don't know if you've seen it. I think they're flying the, not the ski toes. Oh, what's he called? There's a British version and it was filmed. A little bit was done at counter. I'm saying Patrick needs to be RAF Patrick. There's black and white. I was looking for something to watch the other week. And they came across this movie of think I think. A star has a bubble. I think it's something like that. Again, excuse me if I get that wrong. I've only watched it once, but I thought it's utterly brilliant. And I've said look. And yeah, and it is very much like 12 o'clock high. It's the British version of 12 o'clock high. And I think it was released before 12 o'clock high. As you'll probably see there, I've got a clock able. And a clock able, sorry, Gregory Peck. Yeah. You know, in that role, that mega star role. Oh, why is it? It's going to bother me now. And I hope I can finally obviously chat in. If not, I'll have to sort of send it to you. But no, it is, you're right. It's the Americans are coming in. So you've got British bomb squadron operating from the Seahield. And then they sort of get told all the Americans are coming in. So you know, get ready to handle the base, which happens quite a lot. And so they're just getting ready to do that handle. And as you just said then, you know, they go into the dances, they go into the movies, they're meeting people, get in married, and then they go on missions. And then it's sort of seeing, like, you know, people, cast members just drop off and off and off. And then obviously you got the American crew who come in and they're a little bit cocky. And I don't think they realize what they let themselves in for. At that point, I think the Americans were, I've only just watched this one, so I'm just trying to remember as well. But you've got the Americans coming in, you know, and I don't think, you know, they're not doing combat missions just yet. They're still embedding in, training, getting ready. And I don't think they realize in the seriousness of it. I mean, you know, but I think this slowly starting to see it, it's slowly creeping in. It's really good. It was excellent. And I think it was on ITV4, if you have that, or not, it's like ITVX. Oh, yeah. But I think what you just said then is, you know, looking at our photo of Petwood. And you don't know what has just happened or where they've come from or what they're about to do. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's just mental. And then like you step and would all spa is, well, honestly, the way they get on the military from the second one, well, aren't even to this day. In the square, I don't know if you noticed, there's all the memorials, certainly to 617. I'm sorry, but I think visit it when I went through it last year. Well, this is the big one. It's like the modern obelisk and the big ones in the shape of one of the dams. I think it's the moan, moaner dam. And the role of honor for like the squadron personnel on there. But that square itself was actually, it was the Royal Hotel. And I know I've covered this in a then and now because the picture exists. If it was 1941, it was actually hit by a German parachute mine and destroyed. And now in the sort of footprint of where that hotel was, is the memorial square? Wow. Yeah. So like, and there's a trail around and like many of your houses that are still there. The bookshop was like the local volunteer kitchen. There's the hotel. I can't remember the name of it. Round on the back road. And it ran by the Kinnemer in the woods. There's a famous cinema in the woods. Around there, there's like a hotel, but there's a trail and they've got boards up that give you all the information of what happened in this building. And you know, and there's just a walk around the village and it's fantastic. I found it amazing. But then you can, you go down onto the airfield. It's nature reserve now, but the gate has got like signs on. You can see the old brick foundations of the main gate where you drive on. Wow. As you go through there, it's now like a sign, a cast iron sign with like, so out of Lancaster's and Mosquitoes. And then the airfield's a Britain, obelisk is at the top. But if you go through wood all around the back, you can walk through what's called an oscillous plantation now. And that is the old spectacles where the Lancasters would have been parked. But then also they've got the bays for where the tall boy bombs were kept. Wow. Yeah. So all that's still there. All the foundations of the the bond dump bond dump buildings. I actually have ticked off a said I'd never do it. I want to take it out. And I was on the ticked out live, walking down to show the bond on. And casually walking past the family with a little dog. And it's got bit by the dog was. So yeah, but that's another tangent. But yeah, the buildings are still all intact. Wow. The airy shelters are in there. And nature's taken over. But they say everything's still around the bond or the bond in for where the bombs would have been kept. Yeah, it's fascinating to walk around. That's amazing. That is absolutely phenomenal. Wow. Yeah, the history is it's pretty mental, but I know we spoke about it earlier today when when we're on, but another interest, whether I believe or don't believe is the paranormal. Yeah. But the woods around there. So eerie. I have a few tails of pew dog walkers walking through there at night and you know, hearing the Lancaster engine still roaring or even voices of like people in and around the trees. I mean, the voices could be locals, but yeah, it just it's got that. It revived to it like whilst nature's still taken over. Yes. It's still going. Yeah. I know you mean, oh man, I've been incredible again. That's like very like a Lancaster. I guess we just said then about like hearing the engines of the Lancaster still going and that movie I just mentioned above in the stars or I'll find the name for that one before that and 12 o'clock. Hi, that's, you know, I think it starts off with so literally mirror each other. These two movies, certainly with the intro where they go to former airfield and then they just, you know, if I guess the exo isn't it for 12 o'clock, I, or the Agitant or the exo Agitant. And they just use singing the noise that the people, the engines, we just see the grass. Just move in, you know, as if the engines would ask, I love that scene and to do that would be incredible. Wow. Yeah. So I've tempted to get up in now. I'm trying to think when next time I'm going to go to Lincolnshire, but that's that is it. You know, and do you have plans to do more of them? No content around that area and obviously, you know, well, about the former country, former command country, while you're there. Yeah. So again, Woodall's part. First airborne there just before on them. So I need to, I want to try and go and have a look in the cottage museum that's in wood all and see if they have any photos of, if like any of the airborne pictures, because all trying to at least locate the ones that I have got. Because this down there, high street in between, and in the woods in between Petwood and the actual village itself, there's what look like foundations of old like, accommodation hooks. So I'm trying to figure out whether I've still doing research on that, trying to find out more about, like the airborne side of things there. With that, you, it's funny you should say that have you got the airfield site plan and sort of if it if it if it if it, you know, a building's been identified, I think of it when we trade secrets here, it's been identified in a photo. So oh, it's, you know, you see the sign above somebody's head or on the back of it, might say, oh, this is, you know, HQ and then. But sort of correlate that then to a side plan, which obviously highlights it through, through its. Well, obviously, you know, they have a square on the map and then look to the legend. Oh, yeah, that's it. Yeah, I mean, the airfield itself, the buildings that still remain are actually property of the local actual base. So I can't get up there unfortunately to see the buildings. Oh, but the airborne photos in and around would all itself. They were okay, a relative billeted within the village rather than rather than on the airfield. Oh, sorry. Oh, yeah. Okay. I think. Oh, well, that's incredible. Yeah, I'm sure these photos of, I want to say potentially Eisenhower and Montgomery there at some point as well. Well, that's pretty cool. Yeah, inspecting the troops. Yes, because they were doing the rounds. I think there's, I know Churchill and Eisenhower did a lot of that in the build up to D day. But again, you know, yeah, I wanted to have done the same as well. Oh, man, that'd be incredible. Are we a hell of a then and now? I was thinking like to get this like rock star, I say rock star, like these iconic individuals. Once again, away from anyone else, but I don't know, it's just something different. Is there where you've got Eisenhower there in that photo that he stood there? I think I did two Eisenhower ones in a space of, I want to say a week. Now we've been half, you know, when one was the green and the common one, which took a little bit of work, but I'm not going to lie, you know, and after the, you know, after the battle, book helped, you know, and there was that one where it's just a matter of looking, you know, we can try to come to the right spot and just again, looking what's there, looking at video footage, looking again at the then and our book, because things have changed even in, I think that's 30 years. Things had changed. So it sort of it was. Yeah, and then, but I think it was either a week before a week after when he's in Southway. I think it's the 109th Infantry Regiment of the 28th Infantry Division, and I've been meaning to do that for about two years, and I thought, you know, I just, yeah, I just went and did it. So I did like two Eisenhower's in the space of, I think it's just saying different about it though. I just can't put my finger on it. I think it's because, like I said, it's these iconic individuals, and it's just, it's just, I don't know. I just, I don't want to be disrespectful to anyone else, you know, who served, you know, in that time, but it's just, it's, and I love doing my then and now, and I'm sure you're the same. It's just iconic people. It's just, it's differently. Yeah, and I think it's going to be like, you know, hundreds of thousands of views, and it's like 50 people, and it's like, oh, not like I've done. Yeah. I think the social media algorithms pop the bubble sometimes down there. Yeah, it is, it's hard, it's hard to gauge sometimes. And I've put the race hashtag in. Or is it, you know, if I said enough or if I say too much, it's hard sometimes. Like one will just hit and do really well. And then I don't know if you found the same. Yeah, keep it off. I've also found that like posting just five minutes later than you normally would, sometimes affects it as well. I think it's consistent, Sierra, yeah, absolutely. I guess I've noticed that, I'll. And I think it's sort of slaves to social media in a way that we have to keep consistent in posting and timings is bizarre, absolutely. I've noticed that actually I've really noticed that. So yeah, I think I might need to address, like someone who's a dip off in some of the things I've posted just because of the timings and they're really short of that. Yeah, you just said that. Yeah, I had a quick Google of like, what's the best time? And I've just been away with like a work trip for a few months. So like while I'm busy, I just had to then figure out the time difference and just like schedule posts. So it was like I've been posting. It's sitting down for an hour or two, you know, and sorting out a few days and then once I've got more days, then getting more scheduled. So it's managed to keep it going. Whilst I've been busy out the country. That's a really good idea. And I think that that saves on time consumed. You know, I think for me, I think I've fallen foul. That's actually good. You know, it's the most simplest one is I do them on the day, which then has the effect when you said there about. timings. You know, being inconsistent, but if you've got them scheduled, that's taken away from you. And I think what I think the reason I haven't done the scheduling part is like this because I can't tag anyone in there. Yeah, you can't tag people in if you've, you can't, you can't schedule posts if you've tagged people in, which sort of don't understand why they sort of put that control in. Yeah, but maybe it's sort of, you know, if I do the scheduling bit and I haven't tagged anyone in, you know, apologies to anyone who's listening. That's the reason why I haven't tagged you in there. I'm doing the scheduling bit, but then maybe tagging them after the fact or something and doing it that way because I think I, you know, tagging people in there, I think helps with growth. It's silly that, you know, we're, I'm in my mid 40s and I'm concerned about social media growth. And it's weird. And I never thought I'd have a human sense of self-said on. Yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. I'm about to tip over into 40 very soon. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I feel exactly the same. Yeah, it's like a loaded TikTok, but I'm too old for TikTok. But yeah, it's, I never thought I'd see myself as this person. And I don't know. I don't know about you. It's just, I mean, so I'll go back to you then, actually, and we'll go to a recon your Instagram page and your Facebook page, by the way, which is excellent. What's spiding? What's spiding to do it? And I think I'd, I'd been to an airshow and I posted like, I'd, I'd got like a separate Instagram page from my normal one anyway. And, or in fact, it might have been a YouTube account, actually, that I'd never used. I think it was YouTube where it started. And the views, like people start again, interested, and you know, and then you then go onto social media, like I posted it there as well. And then again, on Instagram, like just the views of a spitfire taking off. Yeah, there was just gained a lot of interest. So I think if you go right back to the start of my, when my account started, it's just aircraft at air shows. And then went to Normandy, lived down on the South Coast. So as lucky that the group of friends that I had there, that lived around were also heavily interested in Second World War. So we'd, you know, go around to each other's houses or what not and, you know, watch war films. But I think it'd been remiss of me not to mention like what probably is the main catalyst for a lot of us now is we have ways of making you talk. Yeah. And like when their podcast came out during COVID, I mean, yeah, you know, because it just became sort of a family. And everyone banded together, like back in the early days of Twitter and, or X now as it is, you know, and then go into them. The festival's after COVID on large gets you the veterans and then it's just, I think that was probably the big catalyst for like social media. Yeah, I think, I know exactly what you mean. I think I wasn't really big into podcasts. And I seen the James Holland and I'll marry with doing them. And I thought, that'd be a really cool compilation because I started gotten, you know, we were like in our Murray from when he did his, oh, what was it from, you know, from all I'm doing? No, sorry, yeah, the normality to Berlin. Normally to Berlin documentary. I saw, I think I wasn't really a big fan of his pub, landlord stuff. Um, that's amazing how intelligent and how well done that is as well. Yeah. And if you really think it's incredible. By going from Normandy to Berlin, I thought, wow, we like, you know, I'll marry like World War II. Wow. Okay, this watch this. And I remember watching, I think in my, this is excellent. And I think that was a couple of years before we have ways of making a podcast. And then seeing that huge doing with James Holland, who was probably on at the time, you know, one of my favorite World War II historians. Yeah. And that'd be quite interesting. And just listening to, I think I didn't get into it for, you know, start listening to for a while, but like what you just said, Dennis, listen to it. And you buy into what they talk about, they all, you know, they talk about their Patreon and the Patreon. And they've got it really well done. I think they've got even got more slicker with how they, they operate. Um, we just felt like you were part of a community. Didn't you? And when I think, I don't know, yeah, it is just you just felt like you're part of community. I mean, like two WhatsApp groups of icy platoons. Um, one from, you know, Gloucestershire and one for South Wales. And, you know, they still, they're still going. I've been in them for about three years. I want to say, I feel like I've been in there for about three years. And they still chat. People still chat. I'm sure there's some, you know, people who just sit by the side lines and done the same thing. I can be like that sometimes because you just, you don't know if you can, I suppose compete, let's say compete the word compete, but you don't want to say the wrong thing and make it full of yourself. Yeah. But I remember somebody got introduced into the, you know, the West Midlands. I see chat and they put a joke in there and it did not go well at all. Yeah. They do not, I don't know about you if you're in any of them, but they do not like it's, it's world or true stuff or history. Yeah. Like that's not a place for them. Like for, you know, like the guy deleted it, you know, to be fair, I don't like, I can't even think it was offensive. It's just, it's a joke. Uh, yeah. But I think he was new to the chat as well. I think he just gauge the audience wrong because, I suppose in some sense, they don't know each other. I think platoons hate to say they have meetups. I don't know about your one. If you're, you know, they have social meetups and yeah, for the West Midlands one, I think the South Wales, I'm not sure the South Wales ones do it. Um, but the West Midlands, they meet just outside of a Hampton in cods all. Um, and I think I just said, you know, um, you know, anybody in Gloucestershire or Cheltenham, you know, anybody meetups and I think, no, I'm in Cheltenham, but yeah, what might meet NAP and I think, you know, three or four of us, the first one. Um, and then we created a set, we sort of splintered off and created a squad. Yeah. Um, and of course, that was a Coswell squad, you know, the, the, because the Coswells, I see squad or something like that. Um, and, you know, I've met up with one of the guys a couple of times and it's the last year. Uh, Doug, yeah, Doug, Doug, we, um, we went from walk around the old GC HQ, Ben on the hall, which is where, so how's in the state now, but it's where the, you know, which was, it's a world or two site as well as the ETOS, we're basically there, ETOS, ETOS, yes, by that right. And that's where they were operating from, that's where they, you know, with it, you know, and you can still see the old fence line, but I think that came in, like later down the line, like down the years, I don't think I was world war two. You're right. But you can still see the outline of it, and it still matches the old site from, from when it was created, but obviously, yeah, I think it was in the mid 90s, I want to say that, it got knocked down or you know, early north and moved obviously into the big doughnut. Yeah, just, you know, it's just, it's weird how you can just do that with people and, and Doug is, like, probably 20 years old, I mean, as well. So it's, it's, it's a weird little community, and I know you mean it's, it's, yeah, it's, I think it gets, yeah. Yeah. Well, if anyone's listening, when this goes on and they're in the linkage, you're not in going to your area, send me a message and, uh, I'd be to, uh, the icing, you're not in one, you're not in one, you know, like, because I've, those that have moved around over the past three years, but, I tend to settle around this sort of way on now. So if any of them, not in control, I'll link because you want them around, give me a shout. Are you in, are you in the discord at all? Uh, no, I've not got discord. Oh, I think if you're, I hate to ask this, open up, you know, the patron, you signed up to the patron. For theirs? Yeah. Uh, no. No, I, I was, and I wasn't, because I need to say, you know, it's just, for me, it's just, I don't know, it's just, there's so much going on with what they do. And it can be quite, or, you know, consuming, but if, you know, first one, they had a, a discord page, I think it's called, um, which, I think it's just a way of, like, different little channels, I think. Um, and it's just another social media thing as well. You could say, but they obviously, you know, introduction page, probably, you know, introducing yourself if you knew to it. Yeah. And then if you see from a particular area, they say, well, hey, join the Swarths App Chat, you know, and then that's the Ic chat for that particular region. And then, yeah, you sort of, that's how you sort of get into it. I'll have to get this god down in there. Yeah. Yeah. Learn a new social, social platform. I know. Yeah, it's, there's a lot. And I think it's, it's, people are really helpful on it as well. Like really help. You've got a question. Um, people are really helpful. Yeah. I think that's why it's such a good community. Like it's insane what they've done. Like, yeah. This podcast, I don't know what has, um, I don't know how it happened. It'd be interesting to know how that, like, was that their intent? Or is this sort of, I don't know, like, I think organic has just happened that way. Do you know what I mean? I don't know how it's just sort of took off the next. I think it started in, it started in 2019. And then I seem to remember, I didn't pick up on it until like, but like the end of, it was after COVID. And yeah, I sort of picked up on it then drive, get back to driving. It was my driving lesson. And then caught up to COVID when it happened. But yeah, it took me a few months to a year to pick up on it. And then, um, yeah, I joined the Patreon. But then like, say, I just couldn't keep up with it. And yes, it's signed off from that. And I think Twitter just wasn't for me. Yeah. So apart from going to like the, the meetings when work doesn't interfere. It's been my only thing for the past three, three years or so. Yeah. And if you've gone to, you know, we have Ways Fest as well. Yeah, I did the first one, third one and then the one last year. Yeah. Sort of, I think I think I missed the first one. I think second, which for half a day. So just by myself, I think it was a little bit overwhelmed by it in a way, but it was still growing though. You still pick the box, two bucks. I'm a poor footage for, you know, the first time. Yeah. John McManus for the first time. I randomly met Woody for the first time. Not that I'll remember me. But it was the end of like the D day commemorations, but it was in Carrenton. And Matt Leach was there. Nick Aaron, he was performing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So in the square by the harbor. Yeah, I was there and I was there. Yeah, I was there. No way. Yeah. I was there as well. Yeah, it was in the ring. I was there. Yeah. Yeah. I was there. And I'm chatting to Woody. I was chatting to Woody then. Oh, wait. I was there as well. That's mental. I mean, yards away from Woody. Yeah, it would be, there's a group. There's a group of you there. Yeah. I think that was with, um, gosh, I was with my best mate Pete. And, uh, my mate Andy, who was in the four clans with, we're on the same shift. Um, and didn't even know he was into World War II until I saw him in, when he messaged, I wasn't, I went to Normandy in 2019. I mean, message, you're in Normandy? Where are you? I'm there in a couple of days. Like, oh, man, I've just gone home. I'm there. And then I saw him in Bastone six months later. And then I was like, oh, you're going to Normandy next year? Yeah. Yeah. You know, and that's why, excuse me. And I bumped into him. I met him for drinks and all that. But, um, so I was with Andy and yeah, I was with the band guys. Uh, Nick was on stage. Yeah. Yeah. In the rain. You know, it was raining. Yeah. Woody's got, you know, so yeah, I'm saying that so you were literally yards from me. Yeah. It was, it was mental. Yeah. So you can't chat into it. We were only stood, what, 10, 5, 10 meters behind. So yeah. To have been like, freaky. That's literally four years on. Yeah. I don't think I've got photos. I was just thinking, I thought was it, but that is absolutely freaky that we were like, that's insane. Yeah. But I was like, yeah, I was in. And I was a good weekend. That was, um, I got that's a trip. I did about you. But I was with my best. And like, that's like a trip. I'd been speaking about for years. Did you get a ferry back that year with, with Matt Leach? Yeah. Why were you on the ferry? I was on that ferry. Yeah. I was on that ferry. Yeah. And that's, okay. He's just thought in my head. I was like, I've been on that ferry ferry. No way. I would have been on the same ferry back to England as well. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. Because obviously we were sitting like, I think he slept and well, because we went out. I can't remember. Yeah. We just plunked ourselves in a corner somewhere and I'm saying, yeah. That's a small world. Very small world. That's very small world. May, I've had you over now. What may it's been class? You've got to meet up. Yeah. Absolutely. And if you're ever done this way, I swear, we've got to sort of, you know, hook up and don't think we've even dipped into the, you know, the, you know, actually, you know, tell me about the aircraft you're researching. Actually, there's both idle. So yeah, tell me about this aircraft you're researching. Yeah. So the bowfire is one that I've seen since growing up. And it's just a simple memorial on a stone wall, like about five minutes from where I grew up. And yeah, I'd not really thought of like the ways to get the information. I tried googling it. And I went to the aerostoreical branch. And they literally gave me everything. So the two air crew, the American flying off the Kenneth Warner and flight sergeant Erbohl Pendleton, who's from Croydon, 41. Like good old, good old boys. Yeah. And like, I think you're the records across. And the record reads that the engine must have vibrated to a point that it caught fire. And the reports of it, like rolling on its back, but as you're reading that report, the air investigation blame pilot error. Yeah, that it didn't switch off his fuel pump or switch fuel pump to them, the good engine, which I don't know may have kept him up, that yeah, that came plummet into the ground. What's now called Polterpark, the fascinating thing, well, it's not fascinating. So it's quite sad is that where this crash site is, not 50 meters away during the first world war, was actually his majesty's exposure factory in Langworth. And they manufactured a, because there was a shortage of the chemicals for sea mines. They actually manufactured that chemical. And in 2016, there was a fire which killed three people. And 2017, another three people died in a separate fire. But then like fast forward, like another accident happened, not 50 meters away from where this like explosive factory stood. And it's honored like the people put crosses on there every year, but it's just a simple stone wall with a blue plaque that gives you the details. And I need to, because I'm just down the road from Digby and both the this aircraft, Canadian Bofighter left from Digby. So they're buried in like Digby Village in the graveyard there. So I need to go over actually and just pay them my respects to them. - Wow, yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, I mean, I didn't even know Digby was a flying unit. But that's incredible. That's really, wow, it's really interesting. I mean, have you used ancestry.com? 'Cause they have some, you know, e-requents on there. - Yeah, I should do really. But I found a local record from the village Langworth. So like the modern, that would have been where the local pit was on that hill. So he said, I'd like to history. Now it's just this gorgeous country park. And yeah, so like the cinema, what was the cinema drawing 1942? The queue was outside the cinema and he's actually reports of him seeing, like you know, saying that this plane was in distress. And it was on fire and just sort of spiraling out of control only for its question down in the field. - That's incredible. Yeah, absolutely incredible. - Now that's really nice thing, you know, to research things like that. So I think it's interesting. I think it's weird. I think it's keeping history alive, isn't it? - Yeah, it's on a doorstep. It's there. And instead of looking at far, say Normandy or Belgium or Netherlands or wherever, it's day, you know, and you don't need to go to these places to remember these people either. 'Cause things happen in the UK, as you've just shown me, you know, the bow fighter, it's okay, it's not the sexy stuff of, you know, but there's a story there. - Yeah, it's not the battles and storm a trench or whatever. It's still a story with these guys. - 100%. - And these guys were doing something to do saying bigger than themselves as well. So I think that's really, really admirable what you do. And I think that's an incredible action for, in fact. And there's another unit in the area, like the 82nd operational training unit. They flew out of the Ossington, which is just outside Newark, between Newark and Tuxford, and Ollatin, it's in that sort of triangle. And the, there was a Wellington that crashed in the similar circumstances. It was reported like the right-hand engine was like feathering. So it just wasn't enough power. And that turned on its back. And this was from a, a farmer Jack Ragsdale who'd seen it come down. But it was also a local sergeant, Ernest Flinders. And he wasn't a military sergeant, he was a police sergeant. By the time Jack had raced to it, Ernest had got two of the aircrew out of the burning wreckage. - Wow. - And by, they were out. And by the time Jack had got to the aircraft, he was backing, getting the third out. But unfortunately, from what I can find in the record, so far, I'm assuming that the aircrew would like lost to the wreckage, or to the pilot, sorry, the front enders. But the sad thing is, the only thing I can find of this crash in that area is just like a simple notice board. And yeah, so someone wrote a report on it, and I'll send you a link across the remake, fascinating. And I've also discovered that there's another memorial to another crash from that same airfield and that same unit, four days before the end of the air war in Europe. - Oh my God. - And then as soon as that ended, Ossentom was like disbanded and closed. - Oh, sorry, 82nd O.T.U. was disbanded. - That's always the tragic thing, isn't it? There's always a four days before the end of the air war, yeah? - Yeah, that is utterly tragic. It's amazing that you're researching this, and I think that's absolutely phenomenal. And it can be, you know, the fact you've got these focuses as well of so hard to get distracted by all the different things around us, the fact that you're focused on these things, I think it's excellent. I think it's a great way of remembering them. I look forward to seeing really what you put on social media as well with all of this, 'cause I think it's actually fascinating and it's incredibly, yeah, looking forward to seeing more. 'Cause I think it's one of the things we can't go there. So let's see it. And I think that's the great thing about social media. There's a negative aspects that social media has, but I think this is like one of the great things is, if you can't go there, at least you can see that somebody has gone there and they have done that. And I think that's the great thing with going back to the end of the air, as well. And as A, you could inspire you to go to that place and see if you're self, or if you completely unaware of it, you live me there and you're like, oh my god, I didn't realize that happened there. That absolutely made it, yeah, yeah. And go back to what you said about your hometown. I was looking at photos of my hometown on eBay to buy these postcards and going down in off of the 1800s or 1900s just to do, Ben and Nose. Not one or two, but it's just something of luck in what was there. Yeah. And I think that's what these Ben and Nose can do is they can inspire a lot of people to research that particular site to go there themselves or, hey, I can't go there, but wow, this is what it was and that's what it looks like. And I think I'm putting a little bit of detail on it as well. I think they can, you know, provide a lot of context of, you know, so I think it's so many benefits to these Ben and Nose. It's, and I love seeing them. I love seeing all the different people who do them as well. 'Cause I think they're incredible. And I love the UK ones as well. And I look forward to seeing the ones that you do as well. And I hope you do more and more, more, more command ones. Yeah, thanks, right. And really, really do. Like, like, like, like, like, fascinating, seeing yours. And I was gonna say, it's a facet to see. But, but it's, I mean, by my command, I think we need to see more of it, you know, when, yeah, I don't. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places, but I just feel like it's, it needs to be more of it, 'cause I want to see more of it. I'm not just me in general, but I just, I feel like it's by my command with here as well. And we sort of, I don't know, I don't know if I'm just, you know, being, you know, giving, you know, RAF to service you. But I don't know, I just feel like it's very American. Like, we all, it's the B17 to B24s, we're all the sexy stuff, but let's see some Lancaster formers, you know, on the hard stand, with the spectacles, you know. Yeah, I think it'd be awesome. And I think you're in a great place to do it as well, I think. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I have fell in love with the area, but then I know, obviously times getting on mate. But I just want to say as well that next time you're up, you need to give me a shout, we'll go and look at some of these memorials, I'll take you around. But we've got to, we've got to show you on freedom's wings. Yes. The Lancaster Memorial that's on the A46 driving into Lincoln shit, it is absolutely fantastic. I'd love to see that. Yeah, honestly mate, it's brilliant. It's such a tribute. And the team and, you know, the charity that sort of that out deserve so much prize for what they've done. Oh, it's incredible. I've seen, I'm dying to see that. And I went to the Bomber Commands Museum. Would you call it the centre? Yeah, the last bomb, Bomber Command Centre, yeah. And that's when they had the Poppy set out, which was amazing. Yeah, I think it was a great way to get myself a couple of them. I did you. Yeah. I need to get one of those. I've still got them. And that's such a beautiful place. And again, I love the wings where, what do you call it? The sculpture outside, which is the size of a wing, if I'm correct, you know, the size of a Lancaster bomber wing. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. But obviously in between it, obviously there's an archway and it looks straight towards Lincoln Cathedral. Yeah. It's incredible. Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's more Bomber Command stuff, I say. Absolutely. And there you'll have to get yourself up here and we'll go through a tour around. Oh, look forward to it. Look forward to it. Is there anything you want to promote before you sign off, anything you want to say? No, not really mate, if anyone wants to just come out across, follow me. Or quite receptive and sending messages and like when I can. But yeah, it's fantastic all the support everyone gives. And I said at the start, mate, I'm absolutely truly honored that you've had me on the air to have a chat. And on is all my, honestly, all my really enjoy. My name, John, John, John Moody, Adam Barry, they've been fantastic, fantastic listens. I look forward to more, mate. And hopefully we can meet up in the near future and do something together. I hope so, mate. And I hope, you know, if you're, we have a race festival to see you there as well. Yeah, absolutely. Definitely catch up there, definitely, but not make Greg, thanks for coming on. I know we've sort of had to do some tiguri poker with, you know, accommodation, you know, and not it's been absolute pleasure really, really enjoyed, mate. And the, nah, I look forward to seeing, you know, more from, you know, hopefully we can jump on again and chat more as well. I'd love it, mate. Any time, just give me a shout out. I'll be on anytime. No, excellent mate. And I'll dig out that film name as well. Got it. That's going to be the British 12 o'clock eye. But not, thank you for listening. Hopefully someone else. I hope that someone else on soon. I've got a couple lined up, you know, the German great escape. You know, it's incredible in itself, but yeah, I hope I can get him on soon. And yeah, Joe Mucci is coming back on as well and being made funny enough together. So I'm really excited about that one. And I know that thanks very much and thank you for tuning in. Here's mate.