"GOONING" (w/ Zara Larsson)

This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey, everybody, it's me, Matt, and my tour is on sale now. This time, it's really Christmas. You can go to www.MattRodgersOfficial.com. Podcasts are a visual medium. If you're not watching me right now, I am holding in my hands my vinyl. It's called, "Have you heard of Christmas?" The answer to that question is coming. At this time, it's really Christmas. I'm playing all over the country and in London and in Canada. That makes it a world tour. Harry Styles, you're on Burn Notice. I'll see you soon. - And it would be such a powerful experience for me on stage. So you'd be like, one, two, three, goon. And everyone in the ground just like starts. - Look, Matt. Oh, I see him, I don't mind. Bowen, look over there, how is that culture? Yes, it is, wow. ♪ Last culture, these days ♪ - Ding dong, last culture, these days calling. And it looks like Matt and Bowen are the readers today. Podcasts are a visual medium. We actually hit the presses with a specialito with our guest, Zarlarsson, on the cover. Manhattan, it's a specialito Manhattan. There's, I guess there's different burrow version. - Can we just, Rachel, you found these on the streets? - This is fantastic. - So this is really, this is front page news, okay? - This is from, this is, this is Zara at the Grammys. - She's stunning, and she will return next year or they will be dealt with. - I mean, they, that's the way, that's the way we grab you campaign is we just make threats. - We just threaten you. - Has it worked before? - No, sort of? - No, no. Hey, Matt, lagate, go ahead, now define it. - Sweetish, for what's up? - Do you speak any Swedish? - No, I didn't really nail it, did I? (laughing) - So I'm just a ghost. - She's a ghost right now, but she's gonna become a corporal in just seconds, okay? - Here's some Swedish word. - This is a gag, she's the youngest winner of Talang. - Uh-huh. (laughing) - First of all, youngest winner of Talang, and Zara, did I say it right? - Talang? - Talang, that was beautiful. And I became aware of our guest when fellow Pisces, Joel Kimbooster, sent me a song called "Ruin My Life" - So this is post-lush life and post, wow. - Literally, well, this is what we'll talk about today is I feel like people arrived to our guests in many different times lines. And now it is sort of universal model culture and thank God, but when I heard "Ruin My Life" and Joel Kimbooster said to me, this is our song. "Midnight Sun" was an album of the year nominee at the Lost Cultural Awards because it is one of the albums of the year. And honestly, I'm just excited about what the today is gonna bring. - I'm so excited. She's a Grammy-nominated icon. Everyone, please welcome Zoolocan! - And we brought back that silly pillow for you today because actually, you do make it work. - Make it work. - Thank you, yes, and now I see it. Now I see it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Prince, you know what I mean. Wait, and then tell us about-- - Move out? - Move out. - She's from Chicago and I saw her in a store and she was just so cute. And I figured she could be a very chic plain pillow. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Has she been comfortable on the road? - Very, yeah. - She helped me out a lot, actually. She's a bit scruffed up in the hair. She needs like a little bonnet or something. - She needs a bonnet. - But she's happy. - She's always. - Can I see her facial expression? - Yay. - Oh! - Oh, she's good. (laughs) - She's good. - She's good. - Move out. - Move out. (laughs) - It's good. - Zar just gooned a little bit for the camera. If you wanna see that, hit YouTube.com. - Exactly. Now, but I'm gonna keep her here for now 'cause she's still in my bag. - Of course. - But we brought her up for you guys, so. - Thank you for that. - Would you ever go in with your Swedish boy over Facetime? Have y'all done that? - Uh. (laughs) - Yes, but it doesn't happen very often. - No, can I, can I have a say? - It's a bit, I don't know. I just sort of happen sometimes. I was like, oopsie. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, oopsie. - I can't believe that happened, but no. But yes, it has happened. - I wanna say, I don't like it. - Yeah. - I don't like phone socks. Can I say, whenever it's presented to me as an option, like whenever you're sending photos back and forth with someone you're talking to, and then someone says, do you wanna just Facetime? I always panic. - Yeah. - Right. - I'm kinda like, I don't wanna do that. - Right, there's something hot about like sexing because it feels like, you know, I'm in my own fantasies. - Yeah. - I can make up scenarios. But then once you see it on a screen, and it's just someone like. - Yeah, I know. You're sort of like, now I see the animal in you. - Yeah. - And animals are sort of a theme already. You know what I mean? - Right. - When you move out can't see. - No, like. But when you went in your head, you went like this, like in your locked in. - No, I was locked in because also, I was just posted a story on my way here to New York on the airplane. And there's something about airplanes to me personally that makes me really horny. - Yes, some of my best sex and conversations have happened on New York to LA Plus. - Like, what is that about? - I think it's just the fact that, and when you were going like this with your brain sort of giving X-Men Professor Xavier, what I thought you were doing was you were showing your creativity because that's to me my favorite part of the sexting processes. You get to be a little creative with your answers, whereas on FaceTime you're put on the spot. - Yes, like it's like-- - A little pro. (laughs) - Haiku. - A little haiku for you. (laughs) - Haiku. (laughs) - Is that anything? - Haiku. (laughs) - But why do you do the face so well? (laughs) You are in a perfectly bee emoji. - But you know what it is too? - What? - The people I work with, we have a saying called like, if someone's gooning, it means they're fired. Because I want everyone around me to be able to do a goon face. Because that what it is, yes, to me, that's like, are you free? - Yeah. - Are you carefree? Are you yourself? Like, can you be silly? And if I ask someone on the spot like, make a goon face and they're like, I can't do that. I'm like, you gotta go. - You're not put on your face. - You're gooning, like, you're fired. - That's part of the driving review. Here. - I'm saying everyone in that next room over there. - Goon. - Goon. Okay, let's goon. Kim, can we drive interview for Zara's team? - I know. - It was your goon face. - Okay, great. - Go ahead, you go. (laughs) - That's a Broadway goon. - Yeah, you can stay, you can stay. - Thank you, we can do it. Here's my goon. (screams) Yes, it's like, let's be silly. - Do it and hold it for just like one second. (laughs) - I'm scared now. Maybe I'm gooning now. I'm one who's going to do it. - No, no, you're fired. - But I like to do these things. - Yeah, yeah, okay. (screams) - Okay, ready? Watch this. You think I'm reading about Zama, but I'm reading. (laughs) - It's wow. - That's what Zama said. - Zama. - Zama. - Zama. Would you go by Zama? (laughs) - Oh, wait, let's really settle this. - Okay. - 'Cause you still aren't loving the fan names. There's not a single fan name that's- - It hasn't been anything that has stuck, you know? - 'Cause my first instinct was for them to use your name in a way, but then it's like, what are they? There are lions, that's that can't be it. - Let's and Larsonists are like- - Larsonists. - The winners right now. - Larsonists is a lot of fun, but I can see that you are not. You want to keep brainstorming. - I think so. I'm not like, to anything. It's hard, it's hard. And I feel like I shouldn't be the one naming it. - That's, but then that's what makes it kind of not satisfying for you just yet, because you're not, you haven't had to say in it. - I guess, but it's sort of like making a TikTok trend. - Of course, yeah. - It's like, it has to just naturally happen. I don't want to be sitting with my label to like, what are we gonna do? Like, what's gonna be the trend? I think we should use this soundbite, so people can do this, like, no. It's gonna happen if it happens, and if it doesn't, it's just not meant to be. - To what organic stuff. It's kind of like, sexting. It's kind of like, listen, if I wanted to move to FaceTime with you, we would. - Right. - But I'm still in the creative process. (laughing) I'm writing. I'm always writing. (laughing) - I think, what about gooners? - What if I just called Dara Larsen spend the gooners? - Oh, gooners. - See, that's something I like. - And you can take it. - I think we just did it. - I think you just said, and you really take it, and we were gonna get into this with the culture that made you say cultures for you, but you take it back from like, the dark sort of male energy around you and, and really, them it up, and you give it back to the queer. - Yeah, no, I do it for you. - Oh, yeah. - And we thank you for that, but because we know that it's true. - Yeah. - To be like, one, two, three, goon. Everyone in the ground just like, starts. (laughing) - You should do that this beautiful. - Honestly, I don't think anything has brought me more joy than seeing the footage from your concert of them just lifting each other up in that. - That's beautiful. - Do you wear a skewer? - So funny. - Yeah, that is. - And the fact that every single person would have been up in the air if they could. - I know, it was amazing. - But unfortunately, some people need to be lifters. - I know. - And that's a little culture, number 10. Unfortunately, some people need to be lifters. That goes all the way back to Chile, I think. - It's true. - It's true. - Yeah. - That was a p Uncle-- Oh, that was the in Belgrade. - It was a p Uncle Pop, yes. - Yes. - There's a Mary Ferris wheel there. I looked at Coachella, but anyway, it looks fun. No, a p Uncle Pop, but you know what? It pisses me off the name because it means a pimple pop. - Come on. - It's true, a p Uncle is a pimple. And it's like, it was started as a teenage festival. So they were like, p Uncle Pop? - That's fun, p Uncle Pop. - You know when I goon for you? (laughing) - Tell me something. - It was when, - I watched you do the Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra a concert. - Oh wow, okay deep cut. - Deep cut. - Well, 'cause I was like, I was, I was a fan from the jump. And then, where in my life was, it came out and I was like, okay, this is the new era, this is gonna take a new moment. - Yeah. - Which, and then I was, I was with you on Venus girl. - Oh wow. - And then, but then, but then, no, but before that was Swedish Symphony Orchestra. - Yes. - Rados Symphony Orchestra. - Yes. - So stunning. And it was, it was the perfect thing of like, oh, the songwriting is so perfectly Swedish. She's such a good vocalist. Like, it has the orchestral arrangement of it. Like, brings out the joy and also the melancholy. - Yeah, thank you. And I think also, it was one of the few shows that I've done that wasn't like, I didn't have any dancers. I didn't have any lights and like, production like that. It was really about the music. - Yeah. - And I think, that's so funny to say that. 'Cause now when I think back at it, I had a lot of love from Sweden, like, where it was originally broadcasted. With the Swedish, like, Royal Radio Orchestra. - Radio? The Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra. - Exactly. - All great words. - All great. - Yeah, no, wonderful. - Goaning together. - And then, it's a, it's a symphony of words. - Exactly. - We need, we need one of the readers, Katie's, publicist, finalists to do a Goon count on this episode. How many times we say the word? - Well, it's obviously the front runner for title of Epis Goon. - Exactly. - Of course. Of course. (laughing) - All right, readers Goon, I want everyone at home listening to be Gooning right now in the car. - Please. - But so, you were saying that it was, it was like, it popped off in Sweden and you're saying? - Yeah, like a lot of people were just expressing their love because I think it was a really special show that I've done. Like, I didn't, I hadn't done anything like that before. And I think, especially in pop music, it just gets so camouflaged sometimes, like the song itself and like my voice, because there's so many things happening on stage and there's so many people and like, there's quick changes and there's dancers and there's content. But now, it wasn't that many distractions. So you could, you just had to be forced to listen to the song. - I think that is like one of the coolest things about like you having this breakout moment over the past couple of years is people discovering just what you are vocally capable of because you can probably literally sing anything. Your voice is unbelievable. I wanted to ask, what's it like to have people come to you this late in your career and be like, I didn't know you could sing like that. - Oh, no, that's all good. - Yeah, they're at least that discovering it. - Yeah, but at least it never, you know? - Yeah, 100%. - And I really think, it's so fun, honestly, like we were talking about that last night because I do have a pretty deep lore at this point. - You do. - And I have so much to discover, like if you're a new fan, it's sort of like finding your favorite TV show and realize there's 20 seasons of it. - Yeah. - And you know like seers back in the days where they had like 24 episodes. - Oh, you were like grazing out of me. - Exactly. - You are. - Exactly. - You are seasons and seasons of 24 episodes. - So I feel like it's really fun. It's just like diving, enjoy, have a good time, and hop on the train. - From the time you were a baby. - Yeah, I've really been singing my whole life. - I really have. - How old were you on Talang? - Talang, I was 10. - 10. - Yeah, that's 10. - I'm 28, so it's way more than half of my life ago. - Yeah. - And that was really the only, and before that I did like talent shows in malls and outside of malls and in parking lots and on fair, not fairies, sort of like cruise ships. - cruise ships, like parking lots as we know. - Yes, yes, yes. - But then that Talang audition, I just want to keep singing. - Yeah. - You say it with like a gustal. - Talang. - Talang. - Oh, and then when there was a Swedish phrase that you were teaching people on a video, it was like the Nikon's Oost. You lucky cheese. - Nikon's Oost. - The Nikon's Oost. - Well, you're good at this. - No! - He's very good at dialects. You know that English is his third language. Wait, English is your sixth second. I feel like you know, what do you know Swedish, English? - And make sure I will be knowing Spanish. - Yeah! - So I can read that. What was this? - Especialito. - Especialito. - Especialito. - And I was actually earlier today listening to the-- - Ciclato. - The-- - Ciclato. - Yeah. - I was listening to the B-Day. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - Okay. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And honestly-- - And I love-- - And I love-- - Like I love that one. - Yeah. - Irreplaceable. What is it? Irreplezada. - Yeah. - Jarobes, Jarobes. - Yeah. - Yeah! - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You really are the B-Hunter. - What's that? - Maybe Spanish album. Like Spanish version of the album. Like that's good. - Back at just gas. - Yeah. - Back at a quick gooning over there. - Good evening. - How would you say midnight sun in Espanyol? - Ooh. - Back at noon. - Yeah. - Midnight? Come on, Becca Ramos. - Maybe, maybe just like, what is night? - I don't say. - Night is a noche. - Noche, yes. - So. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - Ooh, I like that. That's a nice ring to it. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - Oh, I like that. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - Oh, I like that. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - Solemirianoche. - And when you do make it to the end, you know it's going to be a good day. - Oh, wonderful. - It's a vocal war of every morning. - And they're like, "Push your fixed." - But in a real way though, your shows are Olympic vocally in that way. But you are moving a lot. - Yeah. - So what's prep for you like with vocally? Are you like a sort of Olympian with that or no? - No. - No, I don't do shit. - You don't do shit. That's not fair. - I know. - There's not even a vocal coach around. - No. - You're just kind of-- - No, Eric Vichro for me. - No, Eric Vichro for you. So sometimes the first time I'm performing a song is on TV and those three minutes they count so much rather than when you do like you're one and a half hour show and you do it again and again and again and again. Like I wish I could perform a night's sun on TV now after I've been touring it for a year. - Yes. - But now it's like oh, news, whatever. - Right, right, right. - But now I'm like I know how to sing that. I know how to, you know, where to place my feet when I do this step. It's like you sign. - You know what I mean? It's like you sign. - You sign. - You sign like an extra inflection and somewhere that you like and you're like damn I could have incorporated that. - Yeah. - Like when everyone saw it for the first time. - Totally, totally. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think that like you can just do, I mean, it doesn't help, but just to know that you've already done it so many times, you literally started on TV. - Yeah. - I think that, like, and then like the Swedish radio symphony is like that is, like is that what was televised? - It was live on radio. - Wow. - And then they televised it later. - And then you were saying that you couldn't see the conductor or something or you couldn't tell what the conductor was doing. - Well, I don't know. Even if I would have seen him. - I don't know what they have to do. - You're like, "That's cute for you." - I just sometimes look at them and I'm like, "People propose." - Yeah, like-- - Lydia Tarar up there. - Wait a minute. - Yeah, wait. But how are you like, sort of-- - It's about you. - Yeah. - No, like, yeah. - Wait, I'm a bit-- (laughing) - People have told you though, like your facial expression is like, you need to do SNL. You need to host. - No, I know. - Yeah! - Yeah! - You're right there. - Wait, like, you know how to like, switch it on. - I would love that. That's so fun. Like, let's have more fun. - Period. - Yeah, it's your year this year. - For that. - Yeah, yeah. And I think, like, I want people to also know, it's amazing when they love my music, but also, there's so much to me. - Yeah. (laughing) - Wait, tell us more. - Just like-- - That's why I'm running for a political office. (laughing) - Ooh, me in a parallel universe. - Yeah, I love it. - We would vote for you. - Yeah. - Yes, like, I can see myself going to politics. Like, when I'm 50. - Actually? - Yes. - Oh, wow. - In Sweden or here? - I think probably in Sweden, but who knows? Who knows? - I can see that. - Yeah. And like, let's, let's, like, like, like a singing mandani. - Yes. - Like someone who is just for the people. - Agreed. - And who just does good things. - Yeah. So then, when you're 50, that's in 22 years. So 22 plus 26, 2048, push, push 48. (laughing) - Push 48 is the campaign slogan. - Ooh. - Oh. - Push 48. - I would vote for that. - I came up with a drag name. - Push 48. - And anyone can use it. - Push notification. (laughing) - Oh, that's good. - That's pretty good. - That's really good. - Oh, check my push notifications. - It's still on fire. - Wow. - I don't look good. (laughing) - Wait, a bivocal stem is Eli saying, Hey, Zara, you want to go out of the day? Get some food. - Get some food. - Get some food. - I love that. - We love you. - We love you. - Love, love, love. - Journal of a doll. - I know. She's so amazing. - You guys are amazing. - It's like glitter. - Yeah, it's amazing. - She's gonna open up for me on my degree show. - Oh, amazing. - She's so excited about it. - Oh, you with the Greek is gonna be. - Yeah, we made her merch. And it's me and Eli's face. And it's like, Zara, where are we? We're on the t-shirt. (all cheering) - We're on the song. - We're on the song. - We're on the t-shirt. - The t-shirt is amazing. - Yeah, I love it, I'll send you both some. - Okay, fabulous. - Oh, so, hey guys, Goon, they can write this down at the end. We have to do a social media which is, where are we? - We're on the podcast. (laughing) - It's gonna get one of we Goon later. (laughing) - We have 20. - That's a lot. - Those are our numbers. Okay, it's time to ask Zara the question. - Yes. - What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? This is something that came into your life and you were like, oh, I can start becoming more myself once I get into this. - So something that really shaped me as a teenager, a young, not a woman yet, a girl, was we-hearted. And I bring that up sometimes and people don't know what I'm talking about. And I'm like, this was huge for me. This was like the calm era where people were on Tumblr. I was only hearted. People were looking at like, I think Tumblr was giving very much like. - Relentless. - What's everyone doing this? - This is like just a blow job on your timeline. Did you guys have that? - No. - Like you mean literally you would see like porn on your timeline? - Yes. - Yes. - Yes, I did. - Speaking of the gooning. - It was something like that. And it was like more like kush wisdoms. - Yes. - Do you know what that was? - Was that Tumblr? - It's like, yeah, it's like Friday is my second favorite F word. Like it was like quote. - Yeah. - Or like we're young, dumb, and free. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - When we hearted would have like just girly things. And then that would be like, when you match your outfit with your favorite shoe. - When I'm sleeping over with my best friends. - Yes. And like when you find the favorite song for the moment, that's like just girly things. Sometimes it would be like, the whole picture would just be like, the quote would be like glitter. - Yeah. I love people that think they get it but they get it wrong. Like didn't even have to brush my teeth today. (laughing) Haven't slept in a week. (laughing) - But we harder was also like. - Hair falling out. - We harder was like Pinterest though. - Pinterest? Yes, but yeah, the early version of Pinterest. It's like a rose, but it's covered in gold. - Yeah. - And it's pastel. - Yeah. - And like a picture of the Eiffel Tower. But it's like taken, taken, imagine like I'm holding up rose colored glasses. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I'm taking the picture on the colored glasses and the Eiffel Tower is like in the background. - Yes, yes, yes. - I love that. - And like some Latte foam art. - Yes. - It's like fairy lights and the pumpkin spice lots. Like it's like a victory secret bag and an abu crumbi bag. - Yes, yes, yes. - You know? Like with that, that raced me. - Yes, and that literally has just happened with the dolphin and the I am depressed. - Yes. - That's kind of the same thing. - Yes. - But like I think the dolphin is, is edgier than we hearted. Like we harder was really. - Yeah. - It was more big than I am depressed. - Yes. - No, you would never be depressed on we hearted. - You would never be depressed on we hearted. - You would be like, when it's raining outside and I'm sad, maybe. But depressed, you're going too far. - And also you being sad is kind of like. - Yeah, like staring at the window. When I'm staring at the window, listening to Twilight. - Yeah, yeah. - Right. - But why are dolphins too edgy for we hearted? For just girly things. - It's too colorful. It's too, yeah, no, we hearted is like pastel. - And pink. - Pink, lavender. - Yeah. - Lylac. - Lylac. But it is a prehistoric mother to the dolphin. I would say. - Yes, of course. - Like you like developed into that I think. - It's funny because like that idea though of the two kind of like things that don't interact but making perfect sense. - And it is like taking a quote, putting it on a picture. Those things, that is the dolphin meme. - Yes. - Yeah, exactly. It is like it birthed it and it makes total sense that this is what raised you. I guess we hearted might be more of a European thing. - Maybe, maybe. - But I feel like at all. - Because it is Tumblr. - It's Tumblr. - But outside of your specific like niche or look. - Like sort of like that kind of like delicate like prep, like not preppy but like, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - It does feel like like Abercrombie for you. - Yes. - Yeah. - And was it true that there was no comment section? - No comment section. - No bullying. - None. Yeah, that's true actually. - So it is sort of like culture. - Yeah, yeah. - There you go. I feel like that all goes into your world now, in a way where it's like-- - Just positivity. Like you would just go there to like feel fuzzy. - And yourself. - Yeah. And be inspired to make my bed and like by a nice pillow to put, to put, you know? - Yeah, I know. - I'm going to blank it on my bed. Like that's what we hearted. (laughing) - It's like what's missing here? Oh, some fuzz. - Yeah, some fuzz, like fuzzy socks. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like I'm like, how do I want to elevate my life? - Yeah. - What's going to we heart it? And have a look. That really did a lot for me. - Of course, 'cause were you like building, like were you collecting images to like represent who you were at the time, or did you want it? - Maybe who I wanted to be. - I was gonna ask, or was it who you wanted to be? - It's like aspirational. But I think it really shaped my early Instagram years. Yeah, and that's also the time where you would have a frame on Instagram. And yeah, no, I was really trying to make it on we hearted. - Yeah, what would it make me look like? - Just having like someone take in my picture from Instagram and putting it on we hearted and it would like live there. And 'cause you would see, it's sort of like Pinterest or Tumblr where you would see something making numbers. And you'd be like, "Oh, that's popping off on we hearted." - Right. - And yeah. - And what they thought about it was their business, but you knew they were engaging with it. - Yeah. - So that is something that I think I miss. Is it like, I would love to know that everyone's listening, but then what everyone says what they think, or at least a sampling of people are saying what they think, and it's not necessarily representative. - And you just want the numbers. - Yeah, 'cause it can be confusing as someone who's trying to cultivate their aesthetic and their image for other people to come up with their opinions, because then even if you aren't entertaining it at all, it still exists that you put in. - I think I did this a lot with, this is like the aesthetic of it, and this is the opinions and the comments. 'Cause I used to run my blog, like the fucking Navy, and I used to go in and post my opinions on things and I used to fight with people in the comments, and then I used to take a comment that someone wrote and I used to write a whole nother blog post about it. - Yeah. - That was my sort of, I actually, I think I would have lived a beautiful life on Tumblr, but I didn't really know about it until later when it wasn't really cool anymore. You know, I would like how to dip, like that, and then I just was very into my blog at that point, and I just felt like if you want to come and watch me write my opinions if you want to have an opinion. Come to my blog. Yes, come to me. Like that's a huge difference. Pay my bills, you know. I have ads. I have ads and you can engage with me then. And thank you. And thank you. I'll take this bullshit with a side of money. Exactly. Yeah, come to me is different now where everything algorithmically, algorithmically gets served to people. True. 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And then you know like if something is really popular in numbers but not that many people liked it like that's enough. I don't need to see how many people disliked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're engaging. It's like you see the chairs are crazy and the likes. Yeah. They say. Oh, exactly. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, ratio. Yeah, bring back me heart it, bring back like bring back positivity. There's actually something that I have been meaning to say to you since you came in here and I don't know if you heard that I said this but are you aware of the cultural powerhouse Jimmy Buffett? So Jimmy Buffett is basically a lifestyle cultural icon here in America. Okay, where his whole thing is like beers on boats and like smoking a blonde and like tell getting and he has a song and a resort called Margarita ville, which is basically like I like Margaritaville. 100%. So I think that you could be our answer to Jimmy Buffett. I think you could have a resort. Yes, really? Yes, because you I think your aesthetic is one that I would want to pay for six days seven nights. Like all inclusive. Yeah, literally. I think like in the pool dolphins. Yeah, because I'm telling you there's a billion dollar franchise Jimmy Buffett coated. Okay, I'm telling you and I want you to kind of I want you to listen to the album songs you know by heart, which is his greatest hits album. Is it covers or is it? It's original music. It's original. I love that it's called that songs you know by heart. So basically it's like he has good. He had a couple big hits that was one song called Come Monday, which was a hit and Margaritaville is like the big one. It goes. Come Monday. It'll be all right. Come Monday. I'll be holding you tight. I will hold only days. And I just want you back by my side. That's beautiful. It's really good. And he's got wasting away again in Margaritaville. And then she's burger and paradise. So it's she's burger and paradise. No, no, we're not. We are not nicking Jimmy Buffett. And his his aesthetic is vacation hammocks palm trees like it's very nice. He's been called parrot heads. Parrot heads. Okay, I need to get into this. This is a huge moment in culture. Wow. Margaritaville is in Times Square. You can sit down. I have been to Margaritaville. That's how it's like, Oh, I love Margaritaville. Like I mean, I've been to the one in Jamaica. First of all, like it's a national like that. So they probably do it. Oh, he's a legend. I've heard it. Yes, Orlando. Oh, now Times Square. There was one in Tahoe. That's amazing. Okay, Jimmy Buffett. Yes, I think if you were to like if you were to open up a restaurant called like Euro Summer or whatever, like it would be you. Okay, thank you so much. I literally was like because I do believe that you what what's the coolest thing about you, which is actually relates to a lot of ways the culture that made us say culture was for us is we always love like immersive worlds. And I feel like there is something very immersive about everything about what you're giving and even the way you're talking about, you know, we heard it, such as creating a little world that you can go live in. Because I find that a lot of people when they answer this question, they end up saying something very real about the artist right now. Right. Right. And there's something about that world creation community that you build, which is about positivity and light and fun and feeling good and like feeling like yeah, community in a way. Yes. Yeah. Okay, love that. I full tower. What is it? I full tower glass. Rose tower. Yeah, I feel tower in the back. Rose glasses in the forefront. Picture through like that's romantic. And I agree. And I think you could walk into that, into your restroom. - Oh, love. - Yeah. - Maybe you can have different photo ops. - Yeah. - Like before you, okay. - Absolutely. - And then, yeah, maybe like, goal, cruise ship. - Yeah. (laughing) - Oh, just one of them. - I think Chris Goon. - I do think. - I do think. - Always typing. - I do, and I literally don't think I'm not looking over there, and I've seen him typing the whole time. At least a pop-up. - Yeah, I do, 'cause I do think the idea of it is too good. - Okay. - Yeah. You can really make cruise ship. - Can I ask you something? - Yeah, sorry, tins are up. - No, please. - Was the song before the place, or was the restaurant before the song? - So the fandom that was popped off because of him created the opportunity to make this type of resort. So he had such an intense, he actually passed away a few years ago, and it was like, I had to call my dad, my dad was born one out at the beach. - Literally, it's a culture. He said I'm born one out for gym. - Wow. - And I feel like this was, it was really a movement, not a moment. It was decades of intense fandom that became, it was really a state of mind. - It really is. - Yeah, like anything is possible. - 100% anything is possible. - Especially when you drink all the margaritas. - But you're asking, was Margaritaville, Margaritaville was the song first? - Yeah, and what came first? - It was the song first. - So basically, it would be as if, - And then he was actually, that could be a real place. - 100%. - I love that. - 100%. - So if you have any ideas for songs that are places, just know it could be real. - Okay. - Yeah. - I'll think about that. - It's like Dollywood, you know what I mean? Like Dolly Parton made her theme park in her image. - Love, yeah. - I think if you do, if you did the cruise, like the Euro Summer cruise, I think you could really-- - The park is fun. - Yeah. - But you could really make cruises for Gen Z, I think. Gen Z is like going on cruises. Then you do theme park, then it's Puss Puss 48. - Okay, there we have it. - That's the plan. - Yeah. - There's enough there to start. - Yeah. - Now I would say so. - Now we just have to pick a place. Would it be in Sweden, I think? - Yeah, like Flagship, Sweden, probably. But also very non-tropical place. And I did say Orlando, ooh, because I love Orlando. - Yeah, we love Orlando too. - You do? - Yeah. - I fucking love Orlando. - The last three favorite things about it. - Honestly, the nature. (laughing) - Wait a minute, because we went on the safari at Disney World Animal Kingdom and we saw the most amazing animals. - You have never seen, you've never seen giraffe so close. - Or maybe you have. - I have. - I have, I've seen them in the wild. - She's like, honey, I've seen them, I've seen them. Wait, the nature, like, do you like the humidity? - No, I love the humidity, I love the, just the, what's it called, Everglades? - Yeah. - I love the big leaves, I love the trees, I love the, I even love the insects. - Yeah. - I love to feel like, there's something that happens in my soul whenever I reach Florida. - Yeah. - That is just like, I come alive. - Same. (laughing) - No, my soul whenever I reach Florida. - Yeah, it's alive. - It's true. - So you're not one of those girls who hates bugs. - No, I'm not really bothered. - The only thing I'm like, please go away to mosquitoes. - Oh, of course. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, and they're only out for, they have bad intentions. - They do, they do. And they're all girls, do you know that? - What? - I thought the bees were, no, wait, no, they're all girls. I thought that's Jurassic Park. Wait, I lost. (laughing) - They're jazz. - No, they all, the only ones that suck are the girls. - The only ones that suck. - A suck, yeah. - The way you think. The only ones that suck are the girls. (laughing) - It's true. The guys just like go to the flowers. - Yeah. - The guys go to the flowers. - 'Cause they have one thing on their minds. Like all other men. - Let's push. - Let's push notifications. - Yes. - I think, Zara, this is why I think people are really also like getting into you is because like I think in interviews you're speaking voice is really addictive. - Really? - The way you said it, it's the girls that suck. - Like you really push, you push it on the right vowels and consonants. - Suck. - Okay. - It's just something to have as naturally. - Yeah. - It's a recording artist thing, I bet. - Honestly. - Yeah, but it's funny you say that. I really appreciate that because I think doing interviews and talking on stage, I've always been very aware of my talking voice, which I don't think is as fun or like yeah, I don't love my talking voice. I think it's because you know when you talk yourself, you feel the bass more in your body and then when I hear it, I'm like. - Where that bass go? - Yeah. - Where's the bass? - I can't hear my smell. - Where's the depth? - Yeah. - Where's my smell? - Where's my smell? - I don't know my name is. - Turn to. - Yeah, it's a lot of trouble. - It's a lot of trouble. - I know we thought of it like that, but do you think it's just because you're creating the sound you can literally-- - It's like a resonon. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in my body. But thank you. - This is why you need to hear a beat row. (laughing) - Where is my bass? - Yeah. - But I think actually he would probably say he should speak like this. - Right, right. - Or say your voice. - I know, yeah. - Yeah. - To be like. (laughing) - Thank you so much. - Thank you so much. - I'm so happy to be here. What if he switched it up right now and just start talking to him like this? - See, honestly, you're ready for all things go. - You're ready. - You mentioned Mom Donnie earlier and he did. So we're recording this before all things go. It's scheduled to happen. He did warn of the Noreaster. - Noreaster. - And we told you what that was, which was a big storm. But you are-- - I have no idea. - You are galvanized by that. You want to perform in the storm. - Yeah, and I think like I told you guys before we started recording. Weirdly enough, it has been some really rainy days. But on almost all the shows, the clouds clear. And that makes me believe in magic. - Yeah. - That makes me believe in like-- - Witchcraft. - The witchcraft of coming together with a large group of people and like sending out the energy to the universe of like, we want sun. We want sun. We want sun. And then the clouds are like, fine. - Yeah. - And then they part. - Hey everybody, this is Matt. And I just wanted to update everyone that despite the witchcraft and the chanting, all things go was canceled. Very disappointing. Mom Donnie was right. What can I say? He's good. Anyway, back to Zara. So for all the artists out there who are performing in the rain, you are not putting out the right energy. There's no community in here. Just simply change your energy and get some community, but probably say, we heart it energy. - Exactly. - When the cloud, when the cloud parts. - Yeah. - Yeah, I do, actually. Thank you for telling me. And I also have to call my sister because she's, well, I'm buying an apartment for her today. So I'm going to sign the papers. - Oh my god. Oh. - Yeah. - Okay. - I'm landlording her. - You're landlording her. - Okay. Good big say. - Oh my god. - I'll be right back. She's making a big little bathroom break. - So we will just keep doing that. - We'll keep talking right now. - Yeah. - Well, I'm having a blast. - Oh my god. I'm addicted to her. I told you that. And I really needed this because I was having a bad morning. - I'm sorry. - Last night. So we're going to keep going, you guys, by the way. I was telling Bo and this. Last night, Melissa and I were having dinner on the street outside. Or are we having lunch? Because we're about to go see Justin Time, the Broadway musical. Because Ariana Maddox is coming on the show in a few weeks. And a man came up to me and Melissa and threw a bottle of gatorade on us. Lemon lime. And then we had-- - Oh, lemon lime is kind of the worst flavor. - And then we got to the point where it was like, what flavor would we rather be covered in? - Blue ice or whatever. - Blue ice. - Blue blizzard, whatever it is. - Because I would say lemon lime is the most annoying flavor. - They still do fruit punch? - I do. - Okay. - Someone was gooning for-- - Dan almost gooning for fruit punch. - Okay. - No, I have a bad memory through it. Well, first of all, I'm so sorry that happened. - It's okay. It honestly, it was really, really jarring to the point where I was like, because it was like, he then just walked away after he did it. And I was just like, okay, I guess that's how that goes. You know, there's nothing to be done about this situation. Someone just did something completely insane that hurt us. But the good news is, Justin Time was wonderful. We just smelled like lemon lime. - We just smelled like lemon lime. I was thinking, God, he didn't smell like fruit punch. - Well, that's the only thing that would have been worse. - So then this happened. And I'm just going to be candid about this. So we're covered in lemon lime, mostly Melissa, which I felt really bummed about. And she was a little shaken up about it. So we go into Justin Time, we say, it's okay. We're just going to sit down and whatever. We sit down, and of course, the house manager comes over and goes, "Hey, and I'm like, is Jeremy Jordan going to come over and twirl me?" And they go, "How did you know?" I was like, it just seems like what would happen on the day where I'm covered in lemon lime. And also, so me and Melissa switched so that I could be in the chair. And that's when I realized, and this is where I'm going to be really vulnerable. You ever go to the urinal and pee, and then all of a sudden you pull back and you see, you got a little bit on your jeans? - Oh, it happens all the time. But then, but you're in Drice Fast. You're in Drice pretty fast, but it does happen. And I want to just give a face to this phenomenon. It happened to me, and then they were like, "Jeremy's coming over "during the first number to spin you." - You had piss and lemon lime all over you? Oh no, over that, that hotty Jeremy, when that hotty Jeremy comes over. - He comes over and he's so, he's so gorgeous and so talented. And he's like, "When the shock bites bands with me." And I'm like, "I, and I do, and he doesn't know I have piss on me." (sniffing) - You didn't, and he shows them! Piss, yellow! - Yes! - Yes! - Have you seen Justin Tyne? - I'm not seen Justin Tyne. - Oh, it's good. - I love that set up. I wanna be in one of those tables. - The what the, the like theater in the, what's a circle in the square? - Circle in the square. - That's the theater, I think. - I love it, I love it there. - So I'm covered in piss and lemon lime. Melissa's upset, Jeremy's slaying. Ariana was great. - Of course. - Harry St. Louis is in it. - I love Harry St. Louis. - Yeah. - Oh my god. - But see, that's balance for you. That is the, that is antithesis. It is both, it is lemon lime gatorade and piss and also, you know, talent at circle in the square. - You know, all of it was great. And I also wish wanna shout out to Michael, our waiter at Pecora Bianca, who stood in front of us, and essentially was our security from the person coming around to, I guess, drive by gatorade us. He really took it in the back and back. - Michael. - He took it in the back and butt, Michael. And he said, I am so sorry this happened, I said, (laughing) Wow, it's the first ever costume change in the last costume. - That's everybody clapped in the spaghetti strap. (laughing) - Wait. - You didn't book your hair at all. You just wanted to go change. - I did both. - You did both. - Wait a minute, tell us about, oh my God. - So this is a history in the making and that's why you get a set, okay? (laughing) Because then things like this happen. We are gooning, we're gooning for you. - Oh, I'm gonna thank you, that's the best. (laughing) - For me, it's like not just the fact that you're gooning, it's that it's always a little bit like surprise. (laughing) - It's like, I didn't think I'd be gooning now. - I thought that was a 15 minutes I penciled it in. (laughing) - Oh my God, you look amazing. I love the choker. - Hmm, I thought that was like the theme. You know, it's a story to this. - It's a story. - Yeah. - First it's over choker, now this. - I love a statement piece. - You know? - Necklace. - Yes. - We need to bring back grandeur in terms of neck wear. - I agree, I agree. - Yeah. - You could be the one, you could be the one. - I'll do my best. - Yeah. - We're just giving you ideas starters, thought starters. - Like in general. - In general. - But the crew. - Yeah, no for real. I still think it's to be here. - Yeah. - We have a lot to get into after this. - Absolutely. - And obviously I see it being huge. I'm so serious, like, we have to figure out a name for it though. - Oh, you're in on it. - No, we don't have to, we don't have to. - No, no, no, we can't. - Okay, come on. - He just likes to say, "No, we're funny." (laughing) - My one thing about my sister is we saying no to money. Look. - This is a billion dollars. - Right. - Euro summer or, I don't know, midnight. - But you know what? It's also things that are coming in the future. Like I'm gonna be working on the next album. So it's nice to have that in my thought to bring to, you know, M&EK and Haley and I and Margo that I work with. And I'm like, guys, we have to make a song that could be branded into a multi-billion dollar hotel - Resort. - Resort, cruise. - Yeah. - Whatever, whatever else. - I'm happy that you're open to that idea. I thought you would be. And so I was confident pitching it to you. But I've been, I've been on this now for like six weeks. I really have. I've been like, I know it's gonna happen. - That's amazing. - It's gonna happen. But you just referenced the next album. But we wanted to ask, like, is, I think this, this era is also indelible and strong enough that it could just be like, it could just be ongoing if you wanted it to be. - Totally. - I know what my next era is gonna be. - Yeah. - And it's definitely not a 180, you know. Next time I won't be showing up here in full leather. It will be like fun and joyful and happiness and colors, but like elevated and refined. I have a name for it. I know what I want. But I do think where are we at right now? I'm not done with the minis on era. Blue Moon music video coming out. - I heard we're gonna see it. - Yeah. - Yes! - It's not finished right now, mind you. It's sort of like Minite Sun where there's a lot of things that needs to be done in the editing of things and like VFX and stuff like that. And it's sort of like a fan to see. It's like Minite Sun, but nighttime with the bigger budget. And it's super, it's super amazing. And I feel like Blue Moon just deserves so much love and attention and energy given to it. And I feel like no one would really do it but me. 'Cause it's not organically like popping off right now. Like I have to look at that and say, I believe in this song. I want to make a video for it. Like I want to go out and promote it. My label aren't gonna be like, look at the numbers. Like we really need to push this. - Yeah, this is a lot. - But I, yeah, like I just believe in it. And I believe it can be the one. And there's other songs from the album that I also believe in that are so amazing. And there's, 'cause Minite Sun is like one of my favorite songs that I've ever done. And I think I'm so-- - So classic at this point. - I'm so happy that it's really connecting with people. But there's so many other songs on Minite Sun, the album that people hasn't tapped into the way they should. Like they have with Minite Sun. - Yeah, right. - So. - I'm gonna name a few and just let me know. - Hot and sexy, do you feel anything? - No, I feel like they're sleeping on every single song except for Minite Sun. So that's why I'm like, let's get back into the album. - Let's get back into the album. - You like Minite Sun? Let's check out the rest. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Hot and sexy, one of my favorites, Euro Summer. I love-- - I love Euro Summer. - Satins Returns. - Satins Returns, I love Satins Returns. - Yeah, push, push, push, push. - Also, I know this one did pop off, but like I was so, when I first heard Pretty Ugly, that's when I was like, oh, this is a way I haven't even heard you use your voice before. Like that was like, and that's to me, like the-- - That pops off live. - The velocity in that song is so crazy. I'm sure it does pop off live. - It does. It makes people really excited. It's such an anthem. It's so shouting and loud and unapologetic. - It's kind of in your face. - If we hard it, gave everyone permission to like pop the fuck off. - Yeah. - Like we hard it online. - You've never seen a pretty girl. - Yeah. - Stop harding it. - Exactly. - Exactly. (laughing) - I feel like the Minite Sun video is very we hard it. It's like, like the words popping up, like believe, you know, like all these things. - Oh, really. - And Hot and Sexy is a cousin to pretty ugly because I feel like the song just by sex and breaks off into this totally different thing. That and the whole song in itself is about girlhood and about how like, I can be hot and sexy and empowered, but why the fuck do men keep fucking shit up for us? - Yeah. - Yeah, totally. It's so annoying. - I was in a car in LA, like the moment the album dropped, I was in a car in LA. I was listening to it. It was like midnight. And then I play Hot and Sexy. It was like no fucking way. I texted this one 'cause we quote that New York thing all the time. - We have a coffee mug that says the whole monologue. - The whole monologue. She's one of our best. - Yeah. - Wait, did you come to a concert? - Yes. - Oh. - And she like, did she recite it? Or no, but you just played the whole thing. - Yeah, I used to play it like before every show. They used to be like the segment that would lead me and that led me into the song. - Everyone else, look at the crowd. - Yes. - Yeah. - Pretty much that's amazing. - No, she's amazing. - It's amazing. - Exactly. - Incredible. - No, I love it. I love it. - So then I think that this. - Blue Moon video, because you're putting the intention behind it, like I think it could be a really special moment. - I hope so. - Can you watch it? - Yeah, of course. Come on Chris. - Come on Chris. - Come on Chris. And mind you again, this is like Ruffiana. - I already love it. Oh my God. - Oh my God. I love it already. - It chees. - Yeah. - Okay, we're not gonna comment on it. I mean, we'll just move around. - Yeah, watch it, but there's so much that needs to be done. That's why I'm excited for you to see this now. And then see the final result when it comes out. Yeah, but it's cute, it's cute. - All right, here we go. - Okay, enjoy. Fabulous. - I'm so excited. ♪ And we're gonna be beautiful underneath the stars ♪ - We can sing it, 'cause this song's-- - Yeah, yeah, you can sing. - Oh my God. - This is giving Florida. - That was literally the inspiration. - Oh my God. - Yes. - Yes. - It's one to guess, like-- - I love that. Anora. - Mm. - Ah! - How? Just in this. - In this. - Oh my God. - Oh, the heart. - The heart. - I mean. - That's exactly right. (laughing) - Yes. - That's so good. - Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Ah! - Yes. It's a iconic hair video. - Oh my God. - Oh my God, oh my God. (laughing) - Oh my God. It's giving Kylie Minogue and Mulan Rouge. - Oh. - One of the greatest animals you could ever have in a video, isn't it? - This is an amazing animal. (laughing) - Yes! - Oh, I love that bottom. - There's different hair moments. (laughing) Oh my God. (laughing) - Yes, wait. - Wow. - Yes! - Wow! - Yay! (laughing) - It's so amazing. - It's so amazing. - It's gonna be amazing. - It's really so excited. - I know we can't say much, but is it just kind of more affects similar to the ones that are built in? - Yeah, and the one where I'm doing a cartwheel and stuff. - Yeah. That is like where I'm sitting, watching, like everything is just gonna get, like, - It's in the bright perspective. - You know, and then it's like, oh, you enter that world, and then you like enter that, and yes, like the glitter and everything that's like cut out, like it's just gonna be seamless and beautiful. And sort of like, yeah, like midnight sun, where it's like, there's the text coming up, or there's like a, it's, I'm gonna have, - You, ah, it's going in. - Yeah, going in on the mic. - Go in on the mic. - Go in on the mic. - Hey, you want to do it? - I want to do it. - It was, yeah, it's, I can't wait for you to like watch. I can't say too much because then I feel like I'm spoiling it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But essentially like, it's what it is, and it's just gonna be that, but amazing and better. - I love that it's just you. - Yeah, I wanted to do that. And I feel like I didn't need, especially on this era, because it really, do you understand when I say sort of like, midnight sun, but like, - Hold on. - Like, her sister? - Yeah. - And it's just me, and it's sort of what the, that, um, world was to me. And it's very Florida, that was inspiration. - In Florida, where did you shoot that? - LA. - In LA. - I'm a great, the Florida of the West Coast. - You, I mean, that's, as we all know. - As we go, how Hollywood was Hollywooding, because it really did, it was, I was thinking, hold on, I was like, is this Tallahassee? - No, I really felt like a star, 'cause I pulled up to set, and I was like, wow, this is really a set. Like, they have really made this, there's all these different, uh, scenes that we're doing, and it's all the lights that were there, and all the extra things, and it was, I really felt like, this is expensive. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It must have been for a second. It's like, what's been the change that you've noticed in the past, like, a couple of years with that, just showing up and being treated like you're on another level. Like, what's your experience with that, if that's the experience? - I don't think, I don't think so. I don't think there's a big difference, at least not to me internally, but one of the things that I feel like have changed for the past year is that I've just decided to, sort of, invest in myself, and my videos, and my live shows, because even the midnight sun tour, it's, it's like four different shows that we've done, that we did the US theater shows, and they were much smaller, and basically no production, and then we have done the European arenas, which were, like, more production, and it had, like, an overhead thing going on, and a huge, like, installation of a sun, then we've done the festival set, which is a completely different set, and 2D, and then we've done, like, and all these things have just let me to really just invest in the best show that I can give people for whatever setting it is. - Yeah. - And I think that have given me so many more fans, there's so many people that also sort of trust, I hope when people see this music video, it's gonna make them feel like we're in the world, but we have evolved a bit, and I can trust her in that evolution. And, like, whatever comes next, like, I wanna build that trust with the listeners, and the people who are watching it, to know, like, you're in good hands, and come with me on this journey, and I will show you great things, and we can create great things. 'Cause I really just wanna be more creative, and my dream is to have a full on arena tour, where I can really have an amazing production, and go wherever I'm at, and have the same, like, the stage, and just everything that I've dreamed of to really entertain, and, like, do that as well as I can possibly do, I just can't wait for that. You probably think dressing well takes lots of money, or lots of time spent digging through thrift stores. - Well, not to be rude, but you're wrong. So dead, wrong. And honestly, we're happy for you, because now we get to tell you about Deepop. You can find the fashion you love for less on Deepop. - And it doesn't matter what you're into, leopard print, they've got it, not into leopard print. 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You can listen to it now on the IHR Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All of these concerts that you're describing, where it's like 2D Festival, or like Arena Show, or Smaller Theaters in America, like I'm just gonna go back to like the Swedish Radio with symphony things. Okay, so I was literally like stoned in bed watching it in like 2021, or so I were like right when it came out. And I was like, oh my God, like Zara, like, I think you've already built that trust. 'Cause then that those were the things, obviously like Lush Life in the first job. Like I was like, oh my God, this girl's popping up. We're just so funny, because in that interview where you were like, where the universe goes, that first flop, how did it feel? Like, how do you wanna shout around? Look at Norwood at ABC News. - That first flop, how do you feel? Like, it's so interesting. 'Cause like your songs had billions of streams. - Yeah, totally. - And yet there's still this dissonance where you were, you know. - I feel like it was the reality for me. I feel like people knew my songs. - Yes. - And they knew, you know, but they didn't know who I was. - Right. - Well, yeah. - We some people did. - Yes. But the general, you know, the GP, the general public, of it all was sort of not tapped into me as a person or knew more about the artist who was singing symphony or who was singing, I forget you, or Lush Life, and ruined my life. And I think that has always sort of been the goal to make people see me as an artist. - Yeah, yeah. - And now with this album, I definitely succeeded because it's always, I feel like the talent's been there, but it's something with the creative direction, or I think a big part of it was also the fact that I got into this industry being so, so young, almost too young now in hindsight, because I was paired with these amazing creative people who were choreographers or directors or writers, and at 14, you sort of like, whatever, like you're the professionals, you know? It's that authoritarian, like even if no one made me feel small, it's just a natural thing that happens dynamically, like in a room. So I think it was hard for me to be creative and sort of plant my creative seed myself, and not have anyone else sort of do that for me when I was that young, and then it just went into this machine of, okay, well, and I got really successful, and I'm thankful for the people I work with, they really let me, they encourage me to speak my mind, it was just hard to really know what it was that I wanted. And even though I said, like, I love this song, I don't wanna do this song, I love this song, I feel like it has to come from me, like it has to start with me, and not from somewhere outside, and now when I'm 28, I'm like, wait a damn minute. - Yeah, I do know what I want, and I think the people that I work with now has helped me realize that I need those people around me to feel comfortable, and like my friends, now I feel like I work with my friends, before it was like working with my parents in a way. - Yeah, you felt like you were not the, like you were always the artist. - Yeah, but I was never the, I was never the, - Conducting. (laughing) - Yeah, you were not conducting the simple, exactly. Like I was a big part of the symphony, and maybe I had a lot of solos, but I didn't feel like, you know, I didn't feel like I was running the division, yeah, like, steering the car. - Well, how can you know yourself fully enough to do that at that age? - No, you can't, that's what I'm saying. - So that's kind of what it is, right? It's like, it also reminds me of like, you know, like one of your contemporaries is obviously Sabrina Carpenter, who had many albums out, and tried many different things, and then it felt like there was a moment where you guys finally were like, no, I know who I am enough to the point where everything can be exactly perfect, but there needs to be the serrated edge, the extra thing that makes it Zara, and there are so many tangible things now about people getting to know you, because you are able to offer those things, because you know exactly who that person is. - I think so too, and I feel like that comes with age, like it'd be part of that is just growing up, and finding your confidence and like, sort of knowing more, and also not really caring so much about other's opinions, with love and respect. It's like, you might think that, but I think this, and because I'm the artist, this is what goes. - Yes, sort of. - Well, you're saying about like working with your friends, rather than working with your parents, is like so huge because Matt said this thing, Matt gave this like graduation speech at Tish, this past summer where he was like, my advice is don't look up. Don't have like the heroes be the models, look around you. The people around you. - Yes, I love that. - Or gonna be the people who come up with you, you know what I mean? - Yes. - You'll always be disappointed if you look up at people you, like most of the time, I think. There'll be something about like people that are already really established that will let you down a little bit, but if you look at your peers, I think like you'll always be inspired. - Oh, totally, I love that. It's so true, it really is. I feel more inspired now than ever. And I literally work with my best friends. And we're all, you know, same age, same references, same sort of upbringing. Maybe they didn't see we heart it, but like, - Yeah. - It doesn't matter. There's other things that the ties together where we just, I feel like they're my peers, you know? - Yeah. - And they're so, so smart and fun. And it just feels like I can really just be myself. - Yeah. - And that's the best way to be. Like no one can really do me better. - Yeah. And then you find, and one of the things I think is the coolest about you is how, not only how many collaborations you like are joyfully a part of, but how different they all are, and you find such a common language with like pink pantheris on stateside. Like that's such a moment in like pop culture. This, in this era, and I just wanted to ask like, what is that relationship like with you and pink pantheris? - For me, it was just, that was literally, it started purely as maybe in a fan. I actually, I actually reached out to her in her DMs, and I was just like, queen. - Yeah. - Let's go in together. - Yes, queen, maybe a crown. - Yeah, queen, a little crown. And she was like, you queen. - And then she said back to track to stateside. - Basically, and I was like, I think you're so amazing. And she was like, oh, actually funny. I'm working on this remix album for Fancy That. Would you like to be on a song? And I was like, yes, please. And then she sent it over. I recorded it. I was on tour with Tape McRae opening for her last year. And then we recorded it in Denver. And then it was basically out the next week. So it was almost like, I don't think she would have even really thought about me. Who knows, but I don't think she would have really like, oh, and by the way, I had this song. - Yeah. - If I didn't DM her, you're like, queen, you know? So sometimes you just have to reach out with some love for people and look what that got me. Like an amazing, amazing song. So that really did start as just me wanting to express some love. I was feeling generous and loving and I DMed a bunch of pop girls. And I was just like, you're amazing, like, keep slaying. Like, I love you. - How are you doing? - You're part of a great community of pop girls, right now. - It really is our time. - Yes. - Yes. - We are thriving. It's so fun to be a part of. It really is. I see like all the girls and I'm just like, wow, this is really the roaring 20s for pop. - Sure, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause it wasn't like that. - It really wasn't. - The girls are not supporting each other. - Yeah, I don't know. I don't feel like pop has this huge moment now or maybe, I don't know, for me it always does because that's just where I live. - That's what you love. - But I think in culture and general right now, it's so celebrated. And it's seen as this thing that is worth celebrating and something that is cool. And not like, oh, you listen to pop. You know, it's like, it's cool, like pop school. - Would you ever like, obviously being from Sweden, we had Kelly Clarkson in here last week. And like she, what I'm just thinking about, like almost everyone that we love and their relationship with Max Martin, would you do like a full album? I feel like we need like a full record. - I don't think so. - With so much love and respect. - Yeah. - Because it's like you said, that is someone to look up to for me. - Oh, I hear you. - I want to do an album with, like Addison, with Luke and Elisa. - Yeah, good for you. That's awesome. - Yeah, like where the girls at, where the people, where the new hungry, like obviously he's the best songwriter in the world, and just keeps getting number ones. But I don't know if that way of working is for me. That's why I'm so thankful that I found, I feel like I have found my team with Meneke and Margo and Uzzo. Sorry, with Margo and Hyliana and Uzzo. Oh, my God, oh, my God. Uzzo's, Meneke's real name is Uzzo. - Yeah. - Uzzo and Meneke's, Meneke, Margo and Hyliana. Those are like my, that's my team. - Yeah. - And, and they're the ones I want to develop this with. So then people in 20 years can be like, "Oh, like, would you like to work with these people?" And then they can say, "No, I want to work with my people." - Wow. - I just want to say. - She's already creating a resort. (laughing) - It's literally a spiritual resort you're already creating. And I knew this was in you. - Yes, I'm excited, but that's how I feel. - Yeah, totally. - And I feel really, like that's where the magic comes from. Not to try to look for it in Max Martin, because I think we can make an amazing song and, or album, but I think for me to also feel, 'cause I know he will affect me in a way, which would make me be a little bit smaller. - It would be like, there's a comment. - 'Cause I respect him so much, yes, yeah, it is. And, and I know he have these huge songs and have so much knowledge that I would feel like whatever he says goes, I don't think, I don't think I would feel like. You've already done that. - Yeah, yeah, so that's my take. - Totally, I love that. - 'Cause we had Robin in here at the beginning of the year and she was talking about her relationship with Max and also, like, she's kind of kept it pretty balanced or like, obviously she has so many songs with him, but then, like, her art-- - But they also sort of came up together in a way, like when she first started out. - Exactly, 100%. - And then they, like, kind of, like, diverged past, and they came back together again throughout the years, but I think her artistry, which she considers her art, is like the things that she would do with, like, - She has a baby. - Collaborated cloths, a lot. They're like, you know, that's her partner in the collaboration, I think. - Her recent show, I just went at Barclays, she's just unbelievable. - Oh, I love it. - Yeah, she is. - She's just amazing. And like, when dancing on my own happens, it's like a fifth, it's truly mother. And there's like a 10 minute, 15 minute applause afterwards where she just takes in the moment to really say like, I know this is a generational song. - Yeah. And she also like, it's like a moment of, everyone's just screaming because we're all thanking her and she's thinking us and it's just like this beautiful moment, but that is mother. - That is mother, especially for me. Like, she's just always been there, like in my pop life, with her county short hair. I love that. - Yeah. - Do you have to be honest at all? You're like the movements, like the boy, the county short hair. (laughing) The women who, it's the girls who suck. - He's like, (laughing) Zara, I can listen to you talk all day. - Ooh, thank you. - And we're about to listen to a whole bunch of talking because it's time, but I don't think so honey. This is the moment where people get a little nervous, but don't, because it's cathartic. It's not negative, okay? It's where we take 60 seconds to, just take them down. - I'm excited to see what you guys are gonna say. - So while you were gone, I told the story about how yesterday, me and my friend were having lunch on the street, and the man came up and threw a bottle of Gatorade on us. - No. - Wasn't great. And so now I have something to say. - Why did he do that? - I think it was-- - He may have been-- - Well, he said-- - Right. (laughing) - Yeah, it was kind of under New York Street since sometimes. - Right, was it open or closed? - It was open, and he did not throw the bottle itself, he threw, he choked over the wall. - Oh, my gosh. - Liquid on it, and then we had to go see a Broadway show. (laughing) - In the Gatorade? - In the Gatorade. - Was the Gatorade specifically? That almost feels like a hate crime. - So, I mean, because it was-- - 'Cause Gatorade was the Gatorade. - Well, the Gatorade was the Gatorade. - Actually, now I have even more juice from it, I don't think so. (laughing) I don't think so much as time starts now. - I don't think so, honey, Gatorade. - Obviously, I don't think so, honey, the man who threw the Gatorade on us, but then I'm drenched in the Gatorade, and I'm smelling it. I don't think so, honey. Maybe it was the flavor. It was lemon lime Gatorade, which is not the one I would pick. We were talking about how-- - Kind of fresh. - And like my sister said, the best I do think so, honey, is blue. - Blue ice. - Gatorade, blue ice, Gatorade. Maybe if I had been covered in that during the Justin Time musical on Broadway, I would have been more refreshed and excited, but the lemon lime Gatorade-- - There are seconds. - I don't know. I think we're dealing with a basic girl, and I say that with love for my basic girls, I am one of you, I'm pumpkin spiced Disney World, but the thing is, when it comes to lemon lime Gatorade, you always have to think of the fact could I be potentially covered in this? And once you take the cap off, that bottle becomes a weapon. And so if I'm gonna be around a weapon, and it's a lemon lime weapon, and I know that I have the opportunity to be covered in this, I'm gonna wish it was blue ice. So I don't think so, honey, Gatorade, eliminate lemon lime, then we'll talk. I'm wet. - And that's one minute. - It's getting good. - That's vape juice too. - Sort of. - Yeah. - I've never actually heard lemon lime. Was that what it was, lemon lime? - Lemon lime is kind of, I would say. - I've never seen. - One of the more pot-- - What's the color? Yellow. - Yellow. - Yellow. - Not good. (upbeat music) - I'm Hamza. - And I'm Martin, and we're the hosts of Out of Character. It's a podcast, I know. There's a lot of them to listen to these days. How are you gonna get to us? Well, there's a specific reason why you should listen to us. - We are the best podcast in the entire world. I swear. - I know, bold. But why don't we list some of the things we might talk about on a regular episode? So sometimes we'll talk about, I don't know, the Uber driver we just had. And how nice they were, or if we tip them or not, come and find out. - Sometimes we'll talk about that weird news story from last week. It's the one you're thinking about, trust me. 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Also, if I am, if contracts are gonna be legally binding, where's the ceremony? Bring back, I wanna be surrounded by my family, by my lawyers, I want, I want a butler to whisper in my ear, are you quite sure, Mr. Yang? I want it to be, I want there to be some. - What if it's a congenitist to it? It's just so boring. Now, I'm on the train, tap, tap, tapping, signing my life away on a brand deal, then I find out the company's crazy. - Five seconds. - I don't wanna keep doing this no more, give me, print out the contracts and surround me with my family. I want a mahogany desk, and that's one minute. Here's what I think of the DocuSign. I do agree with you. DocuSign is legally binding, but if I decide later, it's not, it's not. - It's not. - And that's really looking number 30. DocuSign is legally binding, but if I decide later, it's not, it's not, it's not. - Love that. - So you decide this lease for your sister. And they were like, can you scan the paper? And they just means like, oh, I'ma take a picture of the paper where I signed, and then I'ma text it to you, and they're like, the apartment is yours. - That's crazy. - What does that even mean? - What does that mean? - Completely insane. - You know? - And also, you lose me at the word scan every time. - I know, but even imagine back in the days, where at least now it can sort of be digitally saved somewhere. Imagine back in the days where it's like, no, this is the original paper. - Yeah. - How do I know? - Hope you have a five minute. - How do I know that that is the paper? Why can't someone just like make the paper, or that's very confusing. That's a really, really good one. Thank you. Paper culture is what people want to return to it, but it's confusing, then there gets to be so much of it. What about the trees? No, it's true. We need all the trees for Zara's resort. For Zara's resort. Yeah, we need the big leaf trees for your resort. I think that what it's a tropical vibe. I think so. Com trees, but also big oak tree. Oh, yeah. I like that. I like the paradise feeling of that. And different areas of Europe. Yeah, maybe botanical garden that can also be a side part to the hotel or resort. I think that's what's butterfly garden. There's obviously Zara boat ride. Of course, obviously. Of course. I think there's a Zara like licorice, sweetest, gummy. Mmm. Now we're talking. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you. Okay. We keep saying goon. We keep saying Zara, open a resort. All right. Why scan when I can goon? Let's. No. I feel terrible right now. All right. So are you? Yes, I'm ready. But I'm not really ready. This is Zara Larson's. Her time starts now. My, I don't think so, honey is. I don't think so, honey segment. Yeah. For me. Because people said this before. Yeah. Lady Gaga has. No, she did. What I want to say is that. Why is my hard pounding? Yeah. I'm sitting here. I've been, I've been getting texts from Chris all weekend. Yeah. What is your, oh, no, oh, no, honey segment going to be. What is that going to be? And I'm like, I don't know. I didn't graduate high school. Like, I don't know what the essay is going to be about. So now. 30 seconds. I, I'm still doing the segment. Yeah, you are. That's, that's what happens. I can't escape it. No. So even if I don't want to be part of it, I still have to be part of it. And you have to sit here. And you have to judge me. And now everyone's going to be in the comments. Shut off the comments on this. They can only write, you know, this likes. Yeah. And that's literally what it is, I guess. Yeah. And that's literally what it is. I guess. Yeah. So we're not, we're not clipping this for social. It's kind of, it's kind of kismet that you say it like this. Because literally today, we were talking about retiring the second. We don't, we don't like the segment anymore. We don't like it. Why has this been stressing me out? I don't like it. I don't like it. Do you want to know why it's trusting you up? I don't like it. Because this is why it's stressful. Because you're a positive person. Yes. And this is actually something I think. That's literally what it is. Yes. And I don't think, I don't think we need more. Because I don't think so. What about I think so, honey? Sure. Do you want to do that? Oh, I think so, honey. Do you have it? Do you have an, I think so, honey, that you want to do right now is something that you love. And you want to pop off for a minute? Oh. We're putting you on this spot. It could be bug. It could be. It could be necklaces. It could be pop music. It could pop you. I don't know. I don't know. Sorry. That's okay. Don't apologize. You've said so many positive things for an hour and a half. How can we ask you for more? No, I love you guys. You're amazing. We love you so much. Do you know, there's so many, I think, so, honey, that you did such as, like, when you did a costume change? That's, so, okay, okay, let me get to it. I think so, honey. Okay, go. This is, this is our last, I think so, honey, other time starts now. I think so, honey. Do quick changes throughout the day. Yeah. Didn't this, like, gag you a little bit? Yeah, a lot of it. It's like me coming in, new outfit, new chapter, new energy, new life. I feel like my people that I have in my life, they do, like, five changes throughout the day. Yeah. And it makes me, it makes me happy. It amuses me. It's like, it's gesturing, but it's also, it's like, fashion, personality, depending on what vibe that is I'm doing. Like, maybe I should have put on a new outfit for this segment. Maybe that should have been the all leather. I'm a little bit emo, I'm a little bit mad. Like, you see what I'm trying to express with my fashion. And then I go to the next interview and I have a new outfit on. And it's like, it's a way of telling people how you feel without saying words. Wow. So, I think more quick changes. It doesn't even take that much space in your back. Like, you can have a little pan and a little shirt. It doesn't have to be like this whole thing with the shoes to go to match. Right, five seconds. But just like, change it up. Change it up. You know, change it up, change up the vibe. I think so, honey. Yes! Can I tell you something? You just nailed it and all we needed to do for Zara was make it positive. Make it positive. That's what we are. Yes. Maybe you actually just changed the course of lost culture. Because I'm tired of people seeing I don't think so honey clips and be like, why are they screaming? I'm like, well, that's actually the bit. But the algorithm doesn't allow people to understand the bit. Right. It just shows you people screaming. Right, right, right, right. Passion is passion. We need we hard at culture. You're so quick with that. Oh, I do this. I do this. He does this. The millennial heart. I do that Gen Z heart sometimes too. But then people come here and then K-pop heart of course. Of course. And then 80 Bryant one time tried to do this, but it doesn't really work. What is that? It's a V, it's a V. Well, no matter what shape, no matter what shape part it is, yeah, this is something else. This is something else. Wait, how will we make a Z? Another one! Yes! Oh! Oh my god! Oh my god! What a gag is that? I just messed it up. That's beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. And then you go. Wait, that's literally it. I think that's it. I think your fandom name is Gooners. Gooners. I support that. Yeah, okay. I like that a lot better than Sluts or Larsen is. Okay, so you know what? Let's goon. Is there one that's heard it? Zara likes it. We like it. We don't matter that much, but think about it. Think about it. Ruminate on it. Goon on it. Yeah. Whatever the shape of heart it is, they're all for you. No. We love you so much. I love you so much. So gifted and we're so happy that like you stop by. This is so fun. 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