Give 'Em Helipad

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I heard you missed me. Here I am. Added Melania, "I'll say to you the same thing Robert Wagner said to those investigators when he got off that boat, I have no idea where Natalie is, but I hope she's okay." How many of you here know about Robert Wagner and Natalie Wood? All right, not enough. As Republicans continue to feign outrage over Senator John Ossoff's comments, Trump continues to prove his point about not wanting to do his job. On Wednesday, Trump turned what was supposed to be a policy meeting into basically an architectural digest home tour. It's enough to make you forget that we lost a war in Iran. And I'm sorry, but caring this much about Granite is not the job of the president. It is the job of a wealthy woman who used to be a lawyer, but left her career to raise her children and now they're in elementary school, and she's redoing the kitchen with a shocking degree of intensity and focus as if putting the same energy into countertops that she once put into court filings will stop her brain from vibrating inside of its skull. Here's Trump hyping up the new White House helipad after signing it with a sharpie. This will be here long after we're gone. No matter what happens with the world, this is not moving. This will take any kind of shot. The pyramids of Giza, the hanging gardens of Babylon, the helipad of the South Lawn. I wonder what this was, said a boy and tattered clothes to his father on the long walk from their clans outpost in the Virginia neutral zone through the eastern contaminated region to the walled city of New Baltimore. Oh, well, when I was your age, there were these giant mechanical birds that could fly all across the country, somewhere as big as that fallen monument down there. But others were smaller, it could land on a spot just like this, and then on what was known as a talk show, like the plays the troop puts on in our village at night. A village elder named Kamala Harris was asked how she would be different than the presiding elder Joe Biden. And she fucked it up! Trump also touted the helipads' multifunctionality. They'll be using that almost like a table. They can have events on it, they can have people go there for cocktails and then walk to the ballroom after that's finished. We can have really incredible, this is unbelievable for state. Using the helipad almost like a table, but a table for feet. A shame, it's not dementia. We simply as a culture do not have a word for a big flat area that's a table for your feet, not dementia. It's not that he can't find the word, there is no word. Even now we're sitting here, none of us can think of the word for a flat area on the ground that's like a table, but for your feet. And then there's, of course, the beautiful grass. You know, grass has a life like humans have a life. This has all been redone. It's all been topsoiled. In other words, we put topsoil, brand new earth on top. Very, you know, very, a lot of good ingredients in that earth for grass. If you're grass, you're very happy. If you're voter, not so much. I bet he'd go to the grass's wedding, said Don Jr. to a therapist who has him on mute. And then there was this. This is a great pole. This is the top of the line. It's tapered. This is an astrate up and down job, which looks terrible, frankly. That's a tapered pole. Great. I'm very good at flag poles. It's a shame Lindsey Graham isn't alive to see this. Though if you were, that flag pole would have been the thing that killed him. Speaking of which. In South Carolina, Darlene Graham, who was appointed to fill her late brother's Senate seat, is now running to replace him on the ballot this fall. Of course, no one could ever truly replace Lindsey Graham, said a gay prostitute struggling to make rent since July. During a debate on Tuesday, Graham was asked a question about foreign policy and here's how that went. Our Taiwan and the South China Sea national security issues for the United States and if so, why or how? I'm just going to be honest here. I'm not on national security. I'm not that informed on national security. But I do support the military. I'm not a polished politician up here. A national security is not my thing, not my area of expertise. Brutal. I've had that dream before, but usually I'm naked and then all my teeth fall out. And then I'm running around the Senate trying to bring a speech to Hillary Clinton, but my sex ed teacher, Mr. Papus, is standing in the door holding a banana. I don't know what it means. The debate between Graham and Republican Congressman Ralph Norman group pretty contentious, but it's a slumber party compared to what's been going down in Florida. Congressman Randy Fine, who is Jewish and a virulent Islamophob, defeated social media personality Dan Bilzarian, a Holocaust anir, who has said that Jews are the source of the world's ills. These guys don't belong in a primary. They belong in a sitcom. Hey, Dad, if Jews control the weather, then why is it freezing in this apartment? Am I Jesus right now? Because this Jew is killing me. Randy Fine once proposed New King Palestine and celebrated the deaths of children in Gaza, which obviously won't work for the sitcom, sitcom Canceled. Bilzarian, who has almost 30 million followers on Instagram, posted an AI video that asked what Hitler's advice might be in the race. Said Hitler, have you considered losing and then killing yourself? Meanwhile, Alaska chose their Senate nominees on Tuesday. Per this state's non-partisan primary, the top four vote getters of any party move on to the general election. Democratic former Congresswoman Mary Peltola led the field, followed by Republican Dan Sullivan, as well as Republican Dan Sullivan. Dan, if you do, Dan, if you don't. On the November ballot will include both incumbent Republican Senator Dan S Sullivan and Alaskan Lager, Dan J Sullivan, Jr. It must be frustrating for Dan S Sullivan. I know I'm pretty frustrated to be confused with the less famous John Levitz. Peltola has a real shot at becoming the state's first Democratic Senator to be elected since 2008. Her campaign slogan is Fish Family and Freedom, which is pretty good compared to Dan Sullivan's slogan, "No, not that one, this one, me!" Speaking of Lagers, where they probably shouldn't be, the Trump administration on Tuesday moved to open nearly 45 million acres of untouched wilderness to logging, by seeking to repeal an environmental rule that's been in place since the turn of the century. I don't understand, said Trump, when the concept of wilderness was explained to him, "There are no buildings, but you can't play golf." The road list rule was finalized by Bill Clinton, surprising the incoming administration just days before Clinton left office in 2001. I hope nothing else catches us by surprise this year, said George W. Bush. Republicans and their industry allies have been fighting to delay, we can eliminate the rule ever since, through deregulation during the Bush and Trump years, and in the courts. Said Smokey the Bear, "We must protect these bars." "Hey, where are you taking me? Passport? I'm a citizen. I want to call my lawyer." "Why do your gloves hurt so much?" 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From Furious on Hulu, a show I absolutely love and am amazed by, it's Emmy Rossum. It's so nice to meet you, it's so nice to have you on the show. I was so excited that you're going to be here because Furious is incredible, it is so good. I really want to convey how much I genuinely think it is an amazing thing that you're a part of. Thank you. And you're amazing in it. Thank you. There's a way that you smile as an FBI agent that I was like clocking as you were going through this vaguely dead-eyed thing that you're doing. Do you know that you're doing that or you're just in the character? That's so specific. That's interesting. I did notice, I got the chance to, I've been working on this for three and a half years. The fact that it's finally out there and that people like it is really exciting. And Liz Murray-Weather, who I know you know, is an incredible writer, incredible writer of people and women specifically, and she and I got to spend a lot of time with FBI agents. And my character is a former NYPD detective who became an FBI agent. So I had to get to know both kinds of law enforcement. And New York City detectives have a very kind of like front-footed, relaxed body. They're really like pounding the pavement every day. They're case, case, case, case. They have a lot of incoming cases and they're under the weight of you. You can just feel that they're very in their bodies and also very, they're really metabolizing a lot of shit all the time, bad cases, things not being solved. Whereas FBI agents, I have never seen such good posture in my entire life. The straightest, widest teeth, the most perfect, like if you were to write their sentences, they have perfect punctuation. I was at one point, snuck onto the West Point base by laying in the back of a car like this and pretending I wasn't in it so that I could get onto the base to meet these guys and with Quincy Tyler Bernstein and shoot these big guns. They offered us grenades, but I said no on that one. No grenades today, thank you so much. But they were really incredible and really let us in. And what I understood from working with them is that they have a way of kind of disconnecting. From the weight of the work that they do. And I could tell that there was something in their eyes that was, I think they're always clocking everything that's happening in the room while they're talking to you. And so even though their faces are moving and kind of simulating normal looking behaviors, there's something uncanny about it because there's so much going on in their head at the same time. I remember when I was going to work in politics in the White House, a speechwriter and you have to fill out something called an SF-86, which is so I'm laying back so far here. This is so I just laid back and I like it, but I'm laying very far back, yes, okay, so sorry. But the SF-86 is this long form where you go through basically where everywhere you've lived, people that you live with, and you have to say any crimes you've committed and any drugs that you've done. And you have to be honest because it's not about, I mean, it's partially about what drugs you've done, but it is mostly about wanting to know there's anything you could be blackmailed over. Of course. That's the purpose of the forum. Do you have any secrets? Is there anything a foreign intelligence agency could use to get you to give them inside information? But so it ends up with you sitting across from someone from the FBI, telling them how many times you've smoked weed and how recently, and I do remember this sort of like very intense, very pleasant, very kind and empathetic person who was listening, but you understood like there was like this toughness to the thing, you were like, oh, but this isn't, she's not missing a thing and she's fully engaged, and I always think about that. Yeah, I spend-- But I lie right to her face. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. You were like, never, I've never done, never have I ever-- No, I confess to the weed, I confess to the weed, that's all, I still sound like I'm lying. We've got to move on. Let's move on. No, but the other part of the show that's amazing to me is. So if you take out the fact that it's about this female detective and this female serial killer kind of going back and forth, a lot of the tropes in it are kind of traditional, right? It's a grizzled cop, kind of facing her own demons and disliked in her unit trying to find this killer, but both because I think it is about a woman in that role, and it's just so excellent. You do feel like you're watching something totally new, and I'm wondering what it was like with Liz trying to figure that out as you're making it? Well, Liz is the kind of writer who doesn't protect the character from making the absolute worst decisions, and so I never felt that I had to protect the character at all. I felt like my job was to understand and to explain often nonverbally what the motivations were so that people would be on board with that, and yeah, I think it's loosely inspired by a film called Black Widow with Teresa Russell and Debra Winger, and in that you never know the motivations of the serial killer. The first half is like a fun cat and mouse, and then the second half is the two women find their way to each other, and they sit on a beach getting to know each other. There's a weird scuba sequence, someone's nodding, they've seen it. You're wondering, are they going to kill each other? Are they going to make out what's going to happen? It's very strange. It doesn't become at all like a cat and mouse and then ends in an interesting way, but Liz went back, and when Liz and I started working on this, she said, "Well, I wonder what a female serial killer, why they're really killing," and there have been so few in reality that we know of who have been caught. Maybe they're just better at it than that. Well, it's possible. It's possible. Wow, I've thought about that. Oh, no. I think, wow, I'll do the thought, but I do think that we did learn that they're all victims of violence, so that's where she started, and obviously creating this big dynamic character of Catherine and giving both women this kind of history that is so similar was a really inspired place to start. When you're getting ready for this, there have been moments where you've had to run towards some discomfort, both in the preparing for the role and in doing the role, and just curious about those moments, and then also if it's changed at all now that you're also a mom yourself. interesting. Well, it's really hard not to bring the intensity of your job home with you. And often, if you're dealing with really dark subject matter, I literally have to take showers like when I come home to like imagine that it's leaving me. But yeah, the preparation for this was intense. I did fly to West Texas and was put through like a mini boot camp quantico. The first day was just kind of weapons and targets, target training. And I was feeling pretty good about myself. I was called a dead eye, which is somebody who was just naturally a very good shot. I am not bragging. I think it's just because I am an intense listener. Like I listen to the instructions that you're telling me and I really want to be a good student. And I'm going to do exactly. I'm going to line it up exactly the way you want me to. Okay, is that young? I'm going to do it. Yeah. So I don't think it's any special skill. I think it's just that. But the second day, I was put through more of a simulation course of taking a hill and I was given not real bullets that day, but simionitions, which are bullets that are filled with paint. But if they hit you, they can sting. And my former FBI teacher, Sneak attacked me. She had a guy like a plant who was a former military guy snuck onto the course with his own Sim munitions gun and attacked me. And I was firstly shook. Yeah. And I was like, no, no, no, who is this man? Why is there a man shooting at me like I didn't sign up for this. And she was like, well, you're really, you're really good shot. But we got to get you in emotional, we got to get you in the emotional place that you got to go because you are far too permeable. And after that, she was like, okay, so now we're going to do one where you're jogging through the woods, just pretend you're like dragging through Central Park, you're an FBI agent, you got your gun on your hip, you got your airpods in and there's a gentleman who's going to come up behind you. And I said, nope, not going to do that one. Absolutely. Like I jog, it's that to work. But I think the point was we really have to get you in these scenarios where you're, you're used to fighting your way through adrenaline. And that was obviously being a woman in the world. We are always a little bit on guard. And these agents are super on guard, but super ready. Do you, did that change anything about you moving through the world after? We're like, because I know if I play like, if I play a video game where I am like crashing my car a lot, I'm definitely thinking about it in a new way when I'm driving home. Like I used to play Grand Deft Auto. And then there were, and there were moments where I was like, oh, John, this is real. Stay, stay in the lane. Those are real people over there. You can't, you know, two points. Yeah, you're not going to, you don't want to get five stars. You don't want that. When that's, because then the cops will get you. You don't want that. No, and then you won't complete your task. I don't know the game, but I am imagining. But did that happen to you? Well, I would, yes. Well, in a way, yeah, because you want that to happen to you, right? I had, I had a, I, I would walk down the street and I would try to remember everyone that I had seen and remember all the license plates and, and know how to have peripheral vision and know how weird to sit in the restaurant. And I would do all those things all the time. And it became very second nature to me. It wasn't a great place to exist. That's cool. I can never remember license plates. One agent told me that she taught her kid how to do that, that she would run simulations with her kids, that she would say, okay, so if you were walking down the street and you noticed somebody following you, which house would you go into? And I was like, I don't know of that one. And she's like, no, there's no car parked in front of it. That means there's no one home. You're dead. And I was like, wow, this is very, this, so, so it's really a huge part of their identity. Safety and awareness and hyper vigilance is, it's just very intense. And that became a huge kind of fundamental underpinning of building the character. I used to jog by the National Zoo. And I would think there's a tiger right now. What's my plan? And it's usually to die. To die. You know, I once was in Alaska for a month with my mom. And there was a ranger that said, if you ever see a bear, don't run, and don't turn your back to it. Sing. Don't whistle. It'll think you're a burden. It'll eat you. But if you sing, they know only people sing. And I thought this was like a schtick until one morning on my cabin, porch on like seven years old, my mom's in the shower in Alaska. And a bear came up and like stood right in front of the cabin. And I just went right into, I think like, if I were the king of the forest, that's the one that came to mind. And the bear was like, I was like, I'm like, no, no. And the bear walked away. So either he didn't like that song or yeah. That's really cool. It's crazy that we all know that there's two kinds of bears. And one, you got to get small and one, you get to get big, but nobody ever tells you which one. We all know that right now. You know that. Get big, get small, which bears which. Some of them, you got to lay down. Some of them just get down, but some of them get big. And I don't know, right? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm talking about? You know this. People are nodding. What? You don't know which part. But you've heard this, right? That that's some bears. What's the answer? But, but see, you don't know that's true. What are you doing? You're going to get somebody fucking killed. If it's breath. See, he had a little thing that he knew about rhyming, but that person had already referenced it. Wow. Hey, you remember the day after tomorrow? Yes. How old were you in that? You were so young in that 17. 17. And then that climate change caused the world to get really, really cold. I did. But that doesn't seem to be what's going on for us now. It's certainly not. Certainly not. That was an exciting time when we could imagine that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And I, for some strange reason that I know, but when the wave is coming, instead of immediately running, I put on a bucket hat. Oh, yeah. Well, you want to look good. Didn't want, didn't want to get that blow out wet. I believe was the note. Yeah. That was the note. Not my desire, but I was told to put the hat on. So I did. The villain in that movie is cold. Yes. The cold. Yes, the wave and then the cold. Right, because the. And then the wolves on both. And then the wolves. Yeah. They're sort of like a, like a, like a henchman of the cold. Yes. But then in that movie, also, the cold become, there's, um, it's very cold everywhere. Yes. But they're super cold. That'll getcha. And it chases people around, like helicopters. Yes. Remember, they freeze in the air and they fall out and they'll land. They explode. I do. I do. I wasn't in those scenes, but I know it's all the movie. I think I was stuck in the New York Public Library, but I was using my body heat to keep Jake, Jake, Jill and Hall warm, which was enjoyable for my character and also me. But then since then, your characters have become much more, um, um, dark. Yes. That's cool. Are you drawn to the dark characters? Yes. Of course. I think it's the opportunity to understand your shadow self, all the stuff you are makes you uncomfortable, scared that you might do, scared that you could be, like one of the more interesting kind of wild swings that Liz takes with this character is her relationship with her sexual self. She's an abused woman. She has a very complicated relationship with this ex, um, that it's those relationships spans, you know, 20 plus years. And because of the nature of the way that her, you know, brain and her trauma has worked, she now seeks out violence and it's a turn on for her. And I think that that is not confusing for her. It's something that she accepts and likes. And I remember reading that in the script and almost throwing the script across the room and being like, ah! Because you're going to to figure out how to make that seem real. You're going to have to figure out how to find those parts of yourself that desire those things that are intense, that could hurt you, that why you're drawn to the fire. Yeah. I like it. Kind of like the wolves in the day after tomorrow. Correct. Thanks for bringing that back. Thank you. I'm your awesome. Everybody, here is an amazing show. And you can watch it on Hulu and Disney Plus right now. And we'll be back towards the end of this show and we'll be right back. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It Or Leave It coming up. Love It Or Leave It is brought to you by Tommy John. This summer, don't be that guy. You know, the one the one with sweat pooling in his pants. Everything's sticking where it should. And public transport is a sauna. Your walk to work feels medically unsafe. But you don't have to suffer through it. Meet air underwear. Your heatwave approved upgrade for all day comfort. Air underwear is perfect under the light summer fabrics. No visible lines. 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Tommy John.com code. Love it. Long play our docu series exploring the people and forces shaping the South is back. News flash. The South is the new political epicenter of the country. Democrats are way on their heels in this region. But Republicans are going through their own reckoning in the South too. We're in the final stretch of the midterms and the political map has only gotten more competitive with new states and districts emerging as potential flips. So we - I thought it was time to get back out on the road and take a closer look at what's actually happening on the ground. - I'm Erin Haynes, journalist and expert on all things Southern politics. And I'm Jennifer Paul Mary, former White House Communications Director. - Tune in on Mondays to Long Play Series on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast. (upbeat music) - And we're back! (cheering and clapping) - My next guests are the stars of Deli Boys and Tiktok respectively. Please give it up for Asif Oli and Chris Olsen. (cheering and clapping) - Hi. - Thank you. - How's it going? - Good to see you. - Thank you. - Come on. - Hey guys, I want to sit like you. I saw a video of you and you sit like this. - You got to get up high. - What is this? Is this to establish dominance? - Um, it's a, it's a, I don't know. It is like a gay thing. - Feels good, right? - You know, we all can do it. - Well, I don't want to appropriate. If it's a, um, no, no, no. Hey, woke one's dead. Appropriation. - Okay, okay. - There we go. - Bring out the sombreros. (laughing) - It feels kind of nice. As an Asian, as an Indian person, I would get murdered if I put my feet on the, any sort of furniture. - Oh, you know, that's a, that's a good point. - Yeah. - I don't love it. (laughing) - I know, I hate it. - Okay, okay, okay, yeah. - Now Asif, you were initially booked on the show. - I was. - To promote Deli Boys. - And here we go, here it takes a turn. - And in between you coming on, now wanting to come on the show, coming on the show. - Yes. - Deli Boys has been canceled. (cheering) - Oh, an employee, an employee. - And so in light of this news, we figured we'd lead with a special segment and conversation. We're calling setbacks. - Okay, here we go. (laughing) - Oh, God, not the boulder. - Okay. - Hello. (laughing) - Shout out to the graphics department. - Yeah. - That is me. (laughing) - How's the news hit you in any word for those goons over at Hulu? - Ooh, listen, which camera is my camera? (laughing) - You mother fuckers. I swear to God. If I, let me get in a good power position, you mother fuckers. If I ever see I'm coming for you, did how dare you. And if you have anything else coming up, I'd love to get back in the Hulu family. I'd love that. - Gotta find a way to work together. Hulu, we gotta find a way to work together. - No, it was a great experience. It was one of the best jobs I've ever had in my life and what a unique show to be on in all South Asian fronted show where we got to be the story instead of the side character. And I think it's gonna be something that will pay dividends in the future. It'll be one of those shows where people go like, I just saw that. It'll be 20 years from now. I just saw it. - Yeah. - You guys, what happened? - That's what I say about my cancel show. (laughing) But hopefully for you, it'll be true. - I think so. I feel good about it. I feel good. - We had porn and dragonoth on. - Yeah. - Amazing, she's amazing in the show. - She's so good. We got one huge porn ahead here, yeah, yeah. (laughing) - That just says, talk about the show. - Yeah. Chris, any setbacks you'd like to talk about during our setback section? - None, I've never been setback. - He's never been setback. - No setbacks. - No setbacks. I've had a lot, I've had a lot. I'm always going through a setback. But just, you know, addiction was a tough one. - That was hard. - Classic setback. - Anyone an addict? Oh, come on. Just me, I guess. - Matt Chris. - Yes, that was a tough one. Getting sent to rehab at 19 felt like a setback. - 19. - And it was. But then it setbacks always throw you ahead, no? - That's a great, yeah. - Right, for sure. Well, maybe actually, well, the rehab is in a setback. Probably the alcoholism would be the setback. The rehab is the way to out of it, in a sense. - Sure. - Maybe. - I don't want to. - Why am I telling you about your experience? - It was, it was, it was a bunch of things. Alcohol was one of them. - Damn. I got to live. - Oh yeah, get into it. - I think that's not the lesson. - That's what I'm taking from this. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Did you spring your ankle? - I did spring my ankle. - Making deli boys? - Yeah, you know what's funny? Watching Emmy talk about like all of the stuff that she did. Also watching him being like, oh, I guess I'm not a real actor. Like the amount of, I have never once been like, what is my shadow self? Not once in my life. That's why I do comedy though. I think that's, I think that's a difference between like, serious actors and then plans to wear on TV for a little bit, you know what I mean? - There's that great story though of Justin Hoffman staying up all night. - Yeah. - He got into character for Marathon Man. And is it, not Serolik Ganesh, it's one of those old British guys, he says, have you considered acting my boy? (laughing) - But I was like, you know what? I'm gonna go a thousand percent on this project. We were so excited to be on deli boys. So anything that they wanted me to do, I would do too much. So in this particular thing, they were like, hey, you just need to run. Like people are chasing you. You gotta like get your fiancee in the car and then you gotta run. And I took it as like, oh, you want me to run. Full fucking speed until I'm like, a quarter of a mile away. So I was running full speed and I did. - Tom Cruise. - You know you're not fucking around when you do the fucking, when you do the knife hands. - But Tom Cruise hurt himself running, you're like him. I think you're like him. - I'm basically Indian Tom Cruise and I want that to be the title of this episode. - Yeah. - Now let's put on the list of you. It's definitely put on the picture for sure. Now Chris, your book's called, I think my therapist hates me. - It is. - And it's out September 1st. - Sure. - It's a good photo too. - I agree. - Holy shit, it's like. - Thank you. - Wow. - I'm crying. - It's like to all the boys I loved. Type of five. - You know what I mean? - Well, I'm gay. - Oh, okay. - Well, there you go. - Yeah, yeah. I felt good about that. I knew the title and what the cover was gonna be before I started writing anything. I just kind of, that was like the image in my head. But I did. That's, yep. It's coming out. Here's a book. And do you think your therapist hates you or do? Is that just something you were afraid of? Not it, not anymore. - There was a time when I was at rehab. I still work with the same therapist I did at that rehab. I was at, but when I was there, it was very intense. It was very kind of shame based in a way. Like you are a bad person and the rest of your life is making up for that. Tough stuff. - That was their strategy. - Wait, what? Oh, yeah. - That's not it. - I'm sorry, wait, go back. The therapist is saying you're a bad, are you saying you're a bad person or is the therapist saying you're a bad person? - All of the therapists there are kind of saying that. - Damn, bro. - It's tough. Read about it in the book. (laughing) - Don't tell them anything else, CIA. (laughing) - It has been interesting working with that exact same therapist because she has since left that place because she also figured out that was maybe not the way she wanted to be a therapist. - Oh, I see. - And so now we're undoing the things that she had once done, but I also think the thing, like sort of like paying twice to build a cabinet. - Yes. - Yes, yes, yes. - Yeah, right, right. Building it back up. I think my therapist hates me. It can also be substituted for anything. I think everyone hates me. I think I hate me. I think you hate me. But it's just, you were telling me that backstage. You're like, I hate his fucking guts. That's crazy. - That's something we were talking about. - You're right, you're right. - Not out of here, not out of here. I gotta be kind of open and amenable. - I'm curious. - Of course, of course. - Trying to be curious, that's why I wrote this book because of you. (laughing) - So yeah, my goal in therapy was to always be, like, listen, some weeks I'm gonna have, some weeks I'm gonna have breakthroughs, some weeks I'm not, but every week I'm gonna have a great time. - You're gonna have a fun thing to go. - My therapist, every week. - I'm gonna bring it. It's gonna be an adventure. And then I'm just gonna stop responding. (laughing) - Right. - Wow. - No. - It's nuts. - You started posting videos during the pandemic, and you've really, you know, I would say, you're someone that would be in the category of posting through it. You've posted through the high highs and the low lows. - That's so much. - Well, that's that would be for somebody to discover it. Maybe that's one of the things you find out about in the book as to whether it was too much or the right amount. - Right. - But there have been moments where, like, I definitely was aware of you. And then I remember you were like getting a lot of attention, including like a lot of like unwanted attention and people sharing photos of you that you didn't want shared. And you really kind of dealt with it kind of to the camera. And I'm wondering, like, why you do that and whether at times you question, whether you're putting too much out there. - Yeah, I often, every day is, I have a different relationship with social media, but then there are also eras of different relationships with it. And that particular era was one of sharing quite a lot and just feeling the emotion and posting it in real time. And I think I realized that maybe there's not much peace being protected in that. And that was also coincidentally around the time that I was in the middle of writing about many of the things I went through as a kid and as a teenager. And so it was just, there was so much emotion coursing through me at the time. And I think now I still find it very important to be vulnerable, but you also need to know which parts of you you want to protect for yourself or for the inner circle. And then what part may be important to share because someone else could want to hear it and it could help them. - Okay, so I'm going to ask an important question. But I'm going to start by saying that sometimes I think, I love cooking and cook all the time. - Oh, do you? - I love cooking. And then sometimes I'll think, "Oh, I should post about this and post while, I wanna make something and show people what I'm doing 'cause I'm having such a fun time doing it. But then I. have this moment where I think, oh, but then you're going to turn it into a form of work. You're going to take this thing that you love doing that's personal and now it's just another part of content and you're giving--you're taking something that was a thing that was outside of the content minds and you're bringing it down into the content minds. And I sometimes--when you're having in a moment where you're emotional, you're upset about something, there also has to be a moment that kicks in and I'm going to record this. Right? Like, what is that? Right. So it is so funny to think at points, not in this serious moment that we were talking about, but when I am crying and I think, I got to take a photo of this. Wow. This is good. I mean, but most of the time in those moments, it's like I'm listening to a song or I'm listening or I'm watching a movie and I'm not necessarily watching this. You're watching this, Pod. I'm watching this. I'm watching. Yeah. Anything you've done. Yes, but in that moment specifically, I felt--I think there is so much--I can track therapeutically why I then eventually felt almost like I needed to share my sadness about what was going on in my life. And I think it was a culmination of eventually getting to the point of I had been sharing so much about my life at that point and I felt like I was too open, but that it had been taken advantage of and at the same time I'm writing a book that feels very open and vulnerable. And so I think it was just kind of the pinnacle of me realizing that like sometimes being open doesn't necessarily mean always--it isn't always a positive thing in terms of a parasocial relationship, it can be for the people in your life, but it feels so cathartic a lot of the time to share something you're going through online because you kind of create community in the comments of that video. But then you kind of have to decide which moments I do want to share to create that kind of community, what do I need support about, but ultimately what is the point of sharing this? Yeah. So, someone who had a parasocial relationship with you is Doron Ramdani. Yes. Who was a fan of your sketch show? Yes. And so how did-- I met Doron in New York. Actually we went to do press in upstate New York after season one and we had met some of the people that were working on his election campaign and we made a little video, mean saga made like a little video for him. And then when I actually met him, this is after he had won. You were at like a eath dinner in New York and I was like, oh, I'm going to go introduce myself and probably be like, hey, I did that video for you, probably don't remember whatever. And then I was like, hey, I mean, he's like, I know you. Goat face. And that was the name of the tree, yeah, that's just a mean, that kind of insulting comment. That was the name of a sketch group. It was the face of a ghost. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me, Hasan Minhaj, Fihimanwar, an aerosol, Atari had a sketch group when we first moved out. And he was like, I love your stuff, man. I've been watching since I was like a kid. And then I was like, oh, my God, that guy's the mayor now. He was watching our dumb sketches and stuff to hear the mayor of New York say since I was a kid. Yeah. That's a little bit of a gut punch for sure. But it is pretty awesome to know that like I didn't, that's like my biggest name drop. I can die knowing like, yeah, he knows me. That's cool. He knows me. How cool is that? That's very cool. You, your sound cloud, and he is like, yeah, you were, you were getting into like EDM in the early 2000s. Very cool. I know that stuff. Yeah. Boy, remember sound cloud? Yeah. I have my brains going to sound cloud. Do you know about sound cloud? No. Fuck. We're moving on. Go to commercial immediately. Yeah. Now Oz, if you have a, you do stand up about how Indian weddings, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Any care. Bit is, it's not that before I get canceled. The bit is that, it's not doing that anymore. I went to India with my family and I went there for a wedding and I was like Googling like about the city and stuff and then I saw some articles where they're like, yeah, same sex marriage isn't legal in, in India and I found that very funny because you know, to me Indian weddings are like, they're very flamboyant. And I was like, that dichotomy didn't make any sense to me that you could have such a flamboyant event yet at the same time be like, no, two dudes, two chicks, they get, they, you guys can't get married. But I'm going to hold hands with this man and dance with him and there will be no women allowed. But this is a very straight event. I'm going to feed, I'm going to feed another man with my hands, but two dudes can't get married. They get it. But we also are curious about other areas where Indian culture and gay culture might overlap and because simply finding common ground is boring, we thought we could fight over which areas those truly belong to in a game we're calling Bollywood or West Hollywood and here's how it works. I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to name a thing, Osif and Chris, you'll each have to make your case for the way that thing is more gay or more Indian. We have an Indian writer on the staff. Hey man, don't worry about that. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. And even though my sexual orientation is a little bit all over the place, I'm still pretty gay culturally. Sure. If you've been to India before? No. I was in Indian wedding though. When? For my friend Samir. Oh, nine years ago. It was a big day. It was a big two day affair. What did it feel like? It was great. I liked the part where we all followed the car. Isn't that sick? We all danced behind the car. Chesa after a car. Yeah, it was cool. It used to be like a horse or an elephant back in the day. Oh, that was cool. And now it's just a mid-sized SUV. Yeah. Cool. Elephant would be better. Way better. All right. Here we go. First up. We have the gay pride parade, we also have Indian. I would say if we're just going straight up elaborate, I would say that's probably more gay. Okay. Yeah. Once you're involving teams and outfits and orders and stuff like that, it ends up being a little, I think it leans towards gay more. What do you think? I like how everyone got really quiet because they don't want to be wrong. They're like, I know the camera's not on me, but I don't want to be in trouble. I think gay is right. I think that makes sense. I'm sure we can defer to you on the Indian part and just sort of own the gay part. Because a lot of what happens in India can be called elaborate because there's a billion people. So you cannot have a small, anything there. Any event you do is going to be so many people. We're going to give it to Wes Hollywood. Yeah. Next up, we have men holding hands at the grocery store. Seems gay to me, but you can be straight in India and be holding hands. That is considered a straight thing. Which is cool. It is awesome. I think it's great. I'm like, why do you guys stop at not letting same-sex people get married? This is like, well, there's so much. And they're doing pinkies. Look at that. That's so cool. Could you imagine? Are you an heir one? Just pinkies? I mean, I'm loving it. I remember when I was a little boy, when I was a little boy, like, boys would hold hands. Yeah. And it really, there was something that has changed even in that, like, I think that wouldn't happen anymore. Yeah. But there was like, like, touches, like, it's why athletes still touch places where masculinity is not as question. They're still touching. Like, athletes will still touch. Yeah. Like, people will touch an emotional moment. That's why straight guys will, like, try to gravitate towards things where they can do that. Yeah. You go to a game so I can hug a guy. Are you a handholder? I can hug a guy. Are you a handholder in life? Like, are you, are you, if you're dating someone or seeing someone, do you like to hold hands or, or are you not a hold handholder? Are you a gay guy? I don't like. I don't know. And so we're going to call that Indian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I forgot what we're supposed to say. I get it. Yes. Let's just not be saying, let's call that Indian. And finally, high fiber diets, high fiber diet. It's a lot of beans. It's a lot of rice. Is it because you're Indian? It was because you're going to get fucked in the ass. What did you think it was about? What did you think it was about, right? I'll say. It's the second one. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. I'm guessing. All right. We're giving that one to Wes Hollywood. Come on. And that's our game. Thank you, Chris Olson and Ossif Oli. 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Similarly, how Donald Trump can't handle the vast number of failures all around him and the things outside of his control, I focus on a ballroom. I can't control all the ways. And I have this a lot that was going into this. But I could shop for a couch at a vintage store, at least the ones that were open over the weekend. That's great. That's really hard. What? Listen. I'm just a boy looking for his mat. I got it. I'm just a man looking for a wireless print. I gotta tell you something. The staff of this show, I don't need Natalie Harp. Maybe somewhere between how they treat me now and Natalie Harp will be great. I don't need that kind of devotion. But people who respect me would be nice. He doesn't need a letter. He needs a text message. A plus to the text. Yeah. No, no. Everyone teams great. What do I always say? I love the union. Okay. Yeah. Now, in honor of Emmy's truly excellent show on Hulu, we're putting a new spin, an old classic, introducing the Furious Wheel. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Here's how it works. When the wheel lands on you, it's time to go off about something you're furious about. As if you're on the verge of becoming a female, so you're okay there. Oh. Or it could just be some of the bugs, yeah. Let's spin the wheel. Okay, this euphemisms. I don't like euphemisms. I want a thing to be called a thing. Okay. I don't want to call it ghosting. That's abandonment. Oh. I don't want to call it conscious uncoupling. That's the dissolving of a partnership. And here's one that really, really freaks me out. Do you know about Alpine Divorce? Oh, what's that? Alpine Divorce is when he is such a pussy. He can't break up with you, but instead he takes you on a hiking trip to the top of a mountain and doesn't even have the balls to necessarily push you off. Yeah. No, he leaves you there. Because in this version, he doesn't actually have to watch you die, right? He's just going to make his own way down the mountain and leave you without any skills or any tools or any compass or anything like this. And hopefully, he'll have created a situation in which you cease to be able to be alive. And that really pisses me off because we shouldn't call it Alpine Divorce. Alpine Divorce is a candle at anthropology that's giving, like, pine and bergamot. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done. Wow. That's incredible. Thank you. Holy moly. Alpine Divorce is such a good name for a candle. It really is. It's so funny. It's giving just a hint of, I can't have a direct conversation with you. Yes. With notes of resentment. And avoidance. Yeah, avoidance resentment that builds up to the point where you have justified yourself this conduct. And a little cedar. Yeah, a little cedar. Yeah, god, a little cedar. A little cedar. A little cedar. Something cool. All right, let's spin it again. And it's land on Chris. Damn, dude. Here we go. Okay. Stop. Stop. You shouldn't be allowed on the internet if you're in a bad mood. If you're in a really bad mood about something or specifically social media, and you shouldn't be allowed to comment. Also to comment, you should have to post a photo or video of yourself first. We need to see who you are. Coward? Yeah. Show yourself. I'm not talking about the things where people are getting on and having some discourse about things. If you're going to call me ugly, I just want to see what you look like. I'm not going to say it back, but also, you know, let's just let's also maybe if we don't go online when we're in a horrible mood or we're feeling angry at the world, that's not going to happen. We can all be happier together, maybe, let's write restrictions on it. Post a photo of yourself. Let's see you. Also in the last eight seconds, I just want to say I love Phantom of the Opera. That's what we should be doing. Yeah. I just like to subscribe. Come on. Like and subscribe. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's, you know, it's always like, oh, people can't, these anonymous comments, but no, we have to have anonymous people on the internet because what about the Chinese dissidents? And it's like, well, I don't think the Chinese dissinant is calling me fat. Hey, so how funny would it be if they were, though, but we're going to use the, we're going to use the social media platform for my compromise is for people is that I don't care. I don't necessarily need you to post a picture of you, but I think everyone should always have to have pinned at the top the room they're posting from. You know what I mean? If you saw the horrible dens and could have rooms and spaces and it's like, it's pretty straight, pretty, a lot of pretty, a lot of pretty, a pretty opinion for a guy posting from that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to think about. Wow. To think about. Yeah. Let's spin it. Again. Awesome. Great photo. Great photo. I didn't even realize I had that photo. That's sick. It's held. We had somebody on the show once. It looked like a detective. We had it. You do. We had it with some of the show once. We spin the wheel and it landed on me and they said, oh, that's such a bad picture of me. What's your rant about? That was mine. All right. This is mine. I'm going with this, my whole life. Stop coming at us for eating slow. I'm sick of it. People are always coming at my ass for taking my time. Always did illegal to save her a meal. A succulent Chinese man. I'm just kidding. Why can't I eat slowly? About my whole life. You'll be like, hurry up. Hurry up. Hurry up. Why are you always eating slow? And I'm like, because I'm enjoying my life. Much less if I start eating with my hands. These two girls know what I'm talking about. If I start eating with my hands, then it becomes a whole like, oh, now it's national geographic. People can't open the aperture to be like, perhaps I would like to eat these with my hands and I'd like to take my time. This is the type of, I think we need to go back to slow living. Everyone's like, I want to not be on social media and I want to unplug. But then they're like, hurry up. Hurry up. Why aren't you inhaling this burrito right now? And it's like, let's unplug here. It's chill. There's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a challenge we're all facing, which is if digital technology and, and not just social media, but just computers and, and, and information technology has made us more productive in digital spaces. That has raised the value of time across the economy, including in non digital time. Yeah. I do sometimes things, some of the reason traffic gets crazy and people drive more recklessly and they eat faster is because they are dealing, there's a name for it. There's this paradox where that's why like, and so because time itself is, you can do more with it because of technology, you end up feeling like you're wasting time just doing things at a normal analog pace. I see what you're saying. So like eat the burrito really, really fast so you can get on the internet and leave really rude comments. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. But anonymously for sure. For sure. I can't wait to tell my husband tonight that I understand now why he eats so fast and I won't nag him anymore. I'm like, yo, why are you eating so fast? Like, it's not a race. He's like, I don't know how fast I eat I want to eat, but I want to, I want to eat I'm like, okay. Yeah. It's because of the upward pressure AI is putting on GDP. Yeah. And individual productivity. Let's spin it again. This land on me, and I want to tell you about a little rabbit hole I went down last night. I say, Marit Mayoral debate between Karen Bassan, Nithia Rahman, disclosure, my partner is working for Nithia Rahman, but I have been quite frustrated with Karen Bass ever since she came out against the housing policy that I believe is necessary for the safety of the long term prosperity of the city. I then was reading about the ways in which potholes and street repair has gotten worse in LA. It turns out for eight months last year, there were no street repairs in Los Angeles. That's crazy. Why? LA passed a rule that said you have to update the streets with a ADA compliant ramps that if you're going to do a street renovation legally, who's already the law, you have to go back and put in a ramp. That is expensive. And so instead of repairing the city, you're doing little patches. You've stopped doing actual paving and they've started doing little patches to avoid doing a ramp. Why do they avoid doing a ramp? Because ramps in Los Angeles are expensive. How much? $50,000 a corner. $50,000 a corner. $200,000 to do an intersection. And you may think, "Oh, that's just California." No, it's half the price in Beverly Hills. You take a foot, a step over. They could do it in Beverly Hills for half, which is still 10 times what it cost in fucking Dallas. That's it. Jeannie. I thought it'd get into the ramp business. Absolutely, out fucking rages. And so instead of actually repaving the city properly, we do a quick and dirty fix that costs more over the long term because the city doesn't have the money to pay to repair the ramps, at the cost the city charges to repair the ramps, and instead of actually reforming it and figuring out why the fuck it's costing 50 grand to fix a corner, we're just not going to have paved roads. But don't worry, the city is paving some roads, roads in part of the city that don't have sidewalks. Well, where are those places? Those are a few suburban neighborhoods with less traffic. Where are the places that are--the streets are all fucked up, the high traffic areas filled with the fucking people? That's where they're not paving the roads. They're repaving the roads and the parts of the city that are quieter and empty and the streets are better so they can avoid dealing with the fact that they can't repave the roads in the parts of the city where the roads need to be repaved because they've gotten so much shit for failing to repave the fucking roads. And anyway, that's just another thing that's going on in Los Angeles, which I will periodically update you on in a segment we call "What the fuck is going on in Los Angeles?" When we come back, second thoughts. And we're back! Now for a segment we call second thoughts. Here's how it works. We talk about what we regret from tonight. Oh, just from this episode. Is there anything that's on your mind? My producers who I love and cherish have written a list of things they think I should already regret. Oh! And if you have anything that you'd like to add, please do. Okay. I do have one. This is a rare treat, a pre-show regret, and I'm just going to read what it says. You spent too much time tweeting about the Sherman Oaks Homeowners Association today instead of working on the show. I was pissed. Do you have any for us that we should regret? I have regrets about what I did with you, but I leave up to you the regrets that you might have about what you brought to the show. For example, for Emmy, I want to just reiterate that I did not lie to the FBI agent. Well, that's how many times you got stoned. Let's see, I compared your traumatic FBI training to playing Grand Theft Auto. I may have platform bear misinformation, something to think about there, and no one knows. I explain the plot of the film day after tomorrow, which you were in. Yes. To you. I loved it. I loved it. What? I've had poor posture during most of our segments, and I touched you without asking. Oh, I didn't. I liked it when I went my like second book, loading. Oh. Oh, yeah. No, you're all good, so fine, so fine. Chris and Asif, I immediately yelled bring out the sombreros. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I argued with Krik about whether rehab was a setback. Have a little bit of regret about that. It was Sir Lawrence Olivier, who told Dustin Hoffman to try acting. I was the name I couldn't find. I shouldn't have told Asif backstage that I hate Chris. Yeah, you shouldn't have done that. I regret that. But in all honesty, it's good to have it out there, you know. Yeah, it's good to have it out there. It's good for the book. Chris, any regrets about this evening? Oh. Doing the show. No. No. No regrets. No regrets about it. I feel great. My regret is that you ask me a question, and then I will just keep talking, so that's it. Wow. Cool. I mean, do you have any regrets? More than the ones. Oh, also, I, yeah, something about my shoe, my pan. Which one is the shoe? It keeps getting stuck on my shoe, and then I keep picking it out. I don't know. I don't know. What a cool one. What a cool one. What a cool one. I was sitting back, and I really needed some boob tape. But I'm okay. I'm surviving. Yeah. She'll be okay, I think. There's no regret in there. Awesome. Yeah. You're going to get a more interesting outfit. Do you know what I mean? I look like a guy you'd hire to move this furniture. Right before the show, one of the producers of this show said, is that what you're wearing? Yeah. To me. Oh, to you. He said, is that what you're wearing? Because I think darker would work better on the show. But if that's what you're wearing for today, it's fine. That's a very, that's a very mom thing to do. Like, oh, is that, is that the way you're going to comb your eyebrows? We love you, but we're just worried about you. Why did you look at me and then talk about eyebrows? No, no, no. My mom has a thing about my eyebrows. She's like, do you like them so heavy? Kind of thing, yeah. You know? Do you like them so heavy? That's your mom question. I'll tell you. Yeah, mom. I like them heavy. I have no, I only have one regret that this show is now over. And that is our show. Thank you so much. Emmy Rossum. Awesome. Awesome. There are 74 days until the mid-term. Have a great weekend. Love it or leave it as a quick immediate production. Our show is produced by Kendra James, film a graph Kelsey Gante and me, John Love it. The production team includes Halle Keeper, Sarah Lazarus, Roman Borcellino, Peter Miller, David Tolls, Claudia Shang, Jay Banks, Gavin Purcell, and Matt DeGrope. And our staff is proudly unionized with the writer's guild of America East. Longplay, our docu-series exploring the people and forces shaping the South is back. News flash, the South is the new political epicenter of the country. I'm Erin Haines, journalist and expert on all things Southern politics. 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