Giggling about reunions, raccoons, and full frontal
48m 28s
The episode blends personal anecdotes, critical commentary, and humor to explore the dynamics of reality television, particularly focusing on the Love Is Blind reunion. The host critiques the show’s emotional inconsistencies, especially in how men like John are portrayed as emotionally detached or manipulative, while women’s stories are often overlooked or misrepresented. The conversation highlights gendered power imbalances in media, arguing that men are more likely to be heard and trusted in emotional storytelling, and suggesting that a gay man should host future reunions for greater authenticity. The host also praises Secret Lives of Mormon Wives for its candid portrayal of women navigating religious trauma and non-traditional relationships. Personal moments, like a chaotic movie date with popcorn contamination and a heated reaction to a hostile date, underscore themes of trust, vulnerability, and emotional honesty. The episode concludes with reflections on mental health, personal growth, and small joys—like a comforting TV screensaver—emphasizing how everyday experiences reflect deeper emotional truths. Throughout, the tone remains playful and self-aware, blending satire with genuine insight into modern media and relationships.
(upbeat music) - Sup, Giggler? - Harriet, fix your Wi-Fi. - Manifest that shit. We can't be manners. (laughing) (upbeat music) - I'm in the day, just got away from me. - Hello, my gastronomical gigglers. So I wanna apologize to the academy for apologizing to the academy. 'Cause the academy came back and said, "Real gigglers are not mad at you for talking about your. - Let it go. (laughing) - Oh my god. - I'm sorry, I just wanted to take back my apology because it wasn't. - A dangly earring? - It's not dangly, it just has like a little length to it. And it matches my shirt. So I wore it. - So you never, do you all never did you buy those? - I bought those. (laughing) - I don't know, but I was like, right before I left, I go, "Patreed like this but it was an earring." - You never do an earring. - Never. - Do you even own a stud? - Do many times I've like gone to Forever 21 and been like, "I'm gonna buy 500 studs for $3." - Yeah. - And then never see them again. No idea where they go. I love a stud. - Yeah, why don't you get like a nice pair of lab-grown studs? - Women some the week. (laughing) - I don't even get to your little workshop. Okay, this episode is insane. - It's TV-based, it's movie-based. - We're critics. - Oh, would you themes now? - Thank you. - Welcome to Grab Your Pop Corn. - I'm wearing yellow. - I'm wearing lime green. - Let's start with the love is blind reunion. - I was shookest. - Bring back shookest to describe this reunion. - I was one of their best reunions they've had in years. - And then everyone took what talk was like, it was like, it was cringe, it was a mess. It was Emmy worthy. - Yeah, it's what I watched reality TV for a rogue gay man standing up in the crowd. - Wait, it's okay, look. So were people, I don't know. And I don't care if you watch the whole season, watch the reunion. It's so worth it. - You'll understand the season just from the reunion. You're like, got it, so he's in fact insane. - So I was so short this guy, John, who's the one guy who got married, shows up. Immediately you knew he was single by how he was looking. - Yeah. - His hair was long and stringy. - And I look, we talk a lot of shit about men on this pod. Some warranted, some not. - Sometimes people catch strings. - Yeah, but he was like a guy that I feel like we didn't even go in depth talking about because he wasn't like a classic rob where I'm like that guy's an asshole. It's more like he scared me. - Yeah. - Like he gave me like, I feel like you're poisoner in like 10 years and be like, I don't know what, but he has like, bunch of thousands. Like that's like, there's something really. - There's so much else. (laughing) - We're in a good flu. - We started in Bali. We're going back and forth. And then I go, I'm a blocker, I blocked. No, you're so right. And he's the kind of guy that yells at customer service and you think, yeah, that's all they showed. But I'm like, what more did he do? - Well, when they were talking about the relationship and he said, I don't know if anyone would have picked up on this, but he said, "We had a really good relationship and we never fought." - And I was just like, that's such a classic - My most toxic relationship I ever had I ever fought with him. - Yeah, when you break up with a guy and he's like, I don't know why she did that. We had the best relationship. It's like, you were fucking strippers. - You guys, my most toxic relationship, I one day approached him and I said, I can't eat. I can't sleep. I told my mom everything that happened. And she was like, you're never seeing that man again. - He's like, but I've never yelled at you. - And he's like, no, he's saying she never got mad at me. And it's like, she was, 'cause she was literally processing. - And how these men find like the purest of heart women. - Could she be any? - You know what I mean? - You didn't even smarter. - When she looked good. - And she looked amazing. But did I not say the previous episode or so? I said, I don't like how the dad said, yes, you see. - I call the dad, yes, he's not like what he said. - Oh my God. - Or witches. He said something like, you get her. - Or like you. - And she's yours. - She's yours. - And I was like, blah, blah, blah, blah. - Okay, well when his boyfriend showed up in the crowd and said, that's a good man right there. He prayed over people. Like, he said, he brought, that's a good roommate right there. He brought his Bible to breakfast. And he prayed for everyone that he's a good man. And I can't watch him be taken down. Shoot up, boy. - Yeah, like did he pray for the stripper at the strip club? - Well then, Maury, the actual host of the reunion. (laughing) He goes, wait. - Does the Bible say you should cheat or something? - Yeah. - Which was he ate with that. - He ate with that. - But that scene is giving legally blind. - When the gay guy said it's up and he said. - The poor boy is on the stand and they're saying, your boyfriend and he says, Chuck is just a friend. - And he goes, you bitch. (laughing) - That's the same energy, same same but different. - Same energy and we're gonna have Grace Clipside decide. - Yeah, it was, I don't think I've seen something with more of the same energy before. - So I was standing up from my friend up and seeing him and the dad's like, you're falling on the sword. - He was two seconds away from being like, well, shit, I'll marry him. I think it's like, okay, dude. (laughing) - He was born for. - For getting really in time. - Well, because what was happening with John, they were taking us like, the women were winning, I guess. - Also, did you see when Michaela fell? Like, she tripped, sweet, sweet, girl. - Comedy, yeah, because at the end of the day, Slapsick is funnier than anything. - Sorry, she's physical comedy. Like, give the girl a break. - Like, and she fell, I said, and she went three and he just continued out of the award. Like, hello. (laughing) - She's a Jennifer Lawrence of Love is Blind. - Fuck all those people, 'cause I go online and I hear, why is Michaela speaking for other women? Why is Michaela talking so much? - Michaela's so cringy, she fell. How fucking dare you see all these men who are alcoholics, sheaters, as someone who's spoken for a lot of sobbing friends at a reunion. I actually reserve my right to speak up for my friend when she's incapacitated. - Also, sometimes it's so much easier to speak for someone else's situation that's super clear. - Yeah, because you can see it and they can't articulate it in that moment because they have so many emotions. And I'm like, let me bring it down into three bullet points for you while she fixes her eye makeup. - Also, as someone who has cried during a reunion, like, you wanna talk, but you physically can't, you're shaking? - Yeah, so you need a friend behind you that says, "Actually, fuck you on behalf of her." - Another thing that I noticed is when she was falling, (laughs) - Did she? - John didn't move a muscle. He actually was a stone figure. And like, I think that the men that didn't move, it gave me an egg. Like, Rob and the other guys, at least like went to get up. - I think they flinched. - Yeah, they went to like, oh my god, John literally watched her. - John did not move a muscle. - He didn't even blink. - I'm almost like, did you trip her? - With your mind. - No, John really is there. - But also the thing with her fall is like, not all falls are created equally. - Yeah. - There's a trip, there's a slip, the tumble. (laughs) - Felt down the staircase when there were no stairs. - Like, she was sore the next day. (laughs) - For a jerk. She's like, "Why is my knee like?" - She just know MCL left. - Wait, no, she's, she had the fun. (laughs) - Now you love physical comedy. I love it so hard, 'cause like, I see myself in here. - Yeah. I see myself in there and I love her to death. Also, just as for a Neha, because again, I go on TikTok and everyone's like, mad that God forbid, a Neha speaking details of the story of her. And a Neha goes online after and's like, "Guys, why is everyone mad at me?" For, we had the shortest segment. - Yeah. - And they were like, "What happened?" I start talking and it's cutting to everyone, yawning, rolling their eyes. And I'm like, "This is a misogyny at its finest." - That was an editing, that was a weird editing choice, I thought. - And there is a version that like, maybe she did talk a lot. - Yeah. - But it's like, then at least give us more, 'cause it didn't look like she talked too much on that. Also let women take up space. - I'm gonna say something really controversial. - Nick Lache and Vanessa Lache, you've had a good run. I think maybe it's a new host for the reunion, for the reunion. I think hosting a show, them walking in, being like, "Yeah, this is love is blind." Like, great, amazing. I'd love to watch it. There are a couple that's been together for so long. When it comes to the reunion, mm-hmm. - We need a gay man. - We need a gay man, because here's a thought that I've had recently, because people don't take women seriously. A woman hosting the reunion is often, I feel like, steam rolled over. Where when, like, because in a perfect example, is like, when Vanessa would ask certain things, she doesn't get direct answers, opposed to when Nick asks certain things. - And if Vanessa asks two pointed questions, she's a bitch. - And Nick asked, like, ultimately got out of John who he was texting, which he was a stripper. Like, I don't think Vanessa would have gotten that information out of him. - But Nick, do you know how hard the producers had to get to explain to Nick what was going on? - Yeah. - Because Nick's there to just, he's supportive. But he doesn't know the layers of the show of social awareness. - I think we should, they should have a gay man, for sure. - And they need to stop doing it in front of a live audience. I don't care.
what the audience thinks I don't care that they were on the season and didn't get picked. I don't care. - Well the live audience is why like it was so awkward and they had to move on 'cause they're like, we have a live audience, we can't. - No. - Andy Cohen, we'll wait eight hours to get it. - No, you need to be in a filming day that starts at nine a.m. - And leaves at nine p.m. Like get all of that. - And they're basically like, we'll leave when you guys give us what we need. - Right. And make love is flying reunions. Two parts of they have to be. - Oh yeah, let's bring two. Also, like I was thinking of Go-Go-Hose. (beep) (laughing) - Before we get on to the date that we went on, can we just, can I do a brief synopsis of the new season of secret lives of Mormon wives? Oh, see addition. - So it dropped. - Which I haven't watched it yet. - You know how confused I am. - Joe came into the room today because I was like, oh my god, man, you show us out. And I'm like four episodes deep and he says, what are you watching? And I go, secret lives of Mormon wives. Oh, see, he goes, oh my god, there's more. Like the way I said it and then like him being like, there's more franchise, I sounded insane. - You sound like you idiot. - How my parents probably felt when I was talking about Pokemon when I was a kid. - Secret lives of Mormon wives, oh see addition. - I'm obsessed. - I'm obsessed with all of that. - It's similar to Real Housewives Mormon wives. - Regular, Utah? - OG regulars. Or it's a different vibe. - It's a different vibe, but it's still really good. It's a lot of TikTok girls who have Mormonism around them. Some of them are Mormon, some of them are ex-Mormon. Like Bobby Altoff is-- - Ex-Mormon? - No, her brother is Mormon, but she grew up like super, super Christian. So like, similar in the religion vibe. - It's all religious trauma. - And their whole thing is like, hey, we just want to like have a support group of like moms that are going through different things, whether it's being Mormon, not being Mormon, and just like supporting each other. - So they're all moms. - They're all moms. - Does it make you want to be a mom watching it? - Mmm. You know the thing with secret lives of Mormon wives, is their children aren't on the show a lot. - Yeah, which I like. - Yeah, like you don't see them really being moms that much, which yeah, it's fine. But they take pregnancy as if like-- - Yeah. - No, they're really like-- - They're going to be in the microwave. - Yeah, and I'm pregnant. - And I'm pregnant. - And I'm going to Vegas, and then I'm pregnant, and then I guess I'll pop this kid out. - Yeah, 'cause they're dropping them off. - Yeah, and I'm-- - And then one of the girls who I really love, who I watched on TikTok before she has twins, said like, and I'm 33 years old, and I go, I'm 33 years old. - Like, it was very weird to be the same age, and then be like, not just like first time moms, like they're real moms. So I did feel like immature a little bit, like watching. I'm like, in my head, I'm like, you're 36, because I'm 34, so you have to be older than you're 38. - When I see your mom, I'm like, they're 34, I'm 26. - Yes, so it actually made me feel better about like, we're at the point where-- - We're having a baby. - Profesh, people at the top of their field are our age. I know, and it's scary. - Well, no, what's great about it is like, gigglers are running companies now. - I just saw a giggler on the screen. She looked so cute and she was in her scrubs, and I was like, of course. - Of course. - Of course, you're in your scrubs. - Before we get back to secret life, I'm one of wives, oh, oh, see the addition. - Oh, see. - I'm so proud I got that, oh, see. - Don't, don't, don't, um, a girl took a suppository and was like, okay, I'm gonna take my suppository, opens it up, puts it in her mouth. She thought I was a bite, like, she knows on a video. - Yes, and to say that Nova cared to check up on her, everyone was just sharing it and sending it to me. I'm like, has anyone checked on this woman? Too, I would have done that if I didn't have does in my life, 'cause does told me it goes that way. But like, if you look at it, she's like, she literally goes, there's some big pills. - Okay. - I know. - What, I have to see the videos. - You just have to send it to me. - Oh, son, I think it's glycerin. I didn't actually, I didn't check up on her either and I didn't Google the effects. But it was iconic and like-- - Is she rage baiting? - I don't think so, but then the video just ends. She's like, I'll keep you guys posted. - She was rage baiting. She had to have bad. - Oh, she got me. - No follow-up vid. - But like, suppositories aren't like-- - I think like, like, triangle shape. - They're like, they look like, yeah. - They look like, you see, oblong? - Yeah, like, like a subway sandwich? - Yeah. - Yeah. - And they're like, this wide, I don't know. I've taken bigger things. - Disgusting. - Disgusting. - Sorry, Kim. - Disgusting. (bells chiming) (bells chiming) - Back to her. - Back to her. - This is like, Mormon Sydney. - Back to her cinema episode of OC. - I'm four episodes in. Jen is going through her divorce. So like, she announces it to the public to us. Then this show airs into you. - So Jen is the she-na-shay of Vanderpump rules. Like, she's transitioning the shows. - Yes. - Like, you follow her into this friend group. - Yeah, you follow her into this friend group. And then your friend, sister is on it. Michaela's sister, McCall. The 10th is girl. - Macy's sister. - Macy's sister. - So you guys, McCall, I've never met McCall. - The fact that their names all start with M and their Mormon. - McCall was like, a top five national junior. Like, the girliest girl and she would go out there and she'd just like kick people's butts. So I know her purely as a fan. - Yeah, so she talks a little bit about tennis in like the first couple of episodes. - Is she traumatized by it or is she like? - She doesn't get into it deeply. But no, it seems like she has like a good relationship with that. - Yeah, she's teaching her kids about it and stuff. - But Christmas isn't yeah. - So anyway, so Jen is going through her divorce. She's getting into a divorce. Ready for this. Because her husband lost all their money gambling. - Not once, not twice, but a few times. - And he's a good man because he prays on the Bible. - She goes to her family, she goes to her family and she's like, I'm getting a divorce and they're like, why? Really think about this. And I'm like, I don't know, did anyone see any pictures from their wedding day? If you haven't, look them up. - What did we say about sports betting? - Yeah, it's crazy. - Ruining lives, it's ruining families. - Here's the other thing with this show that I find really interesting for it being like a religious based show. - It's actually some of the most forward relationships because the majority, if not all of them, I would say actually all of them, are all the breadwinners in every of their relationships. - It's very non-traditional in that way. - Super non-traditional. And like one of the husbands is really amasculated by it that he like, his wife makes all the money and then he tries to say that he's like a investor in things. - A founder? - He says he owns things when he just invested in all of these random companies. But if you invest in something, that's it. You've invested. - There's nothing else for you to do. - Do you hate one man? - Do you like, I'm an investor. - I'm an investor. And what do you do for the 23 other hours during the day? - I would argue 23 hours in four to five minutes. - Yeah, I'm not over Jen. What's the dad's name, the husband's name? Anyway, he talks like this. - Yeah, I don't remember. And he's like, Jen and I, like, with each other and we're super, super sad that this happened. The fact that she posts a video of him being like root to her, I'm like, that's the least of your worries. He lost all your money. - Yeah, he lost all your money. - And her mom and dad were like, but did he cheat on you? - Yeah, he, no, but like. - No, that's cheating. - I'm playing out of a home. - You cheated my money out of my purse. - Yeah. - You can love someone, but when their emotional issues are actually taking you down, it's like, I love you, I wish the best for you. My life is not meant to be, yeah. - You get to a point where you say, and you're ruining my life. - You're literally ruining my life. - The worst part about it is like, it was her money. - Right. - She went on dancing with the stars with, like her ovary hanging out. - Yeah. - And he lost all that money. - And everyone said that, like, basically, he was a nightmare all while she was on dancing with the stars, like on set and on production. And like, if that, yeah, that's just like a whole other can of words, because if you're on a set in a production and you're a monster, you got real issues. - Well, real, real. - Speaking of monsters, let's talk about our date. - So Hannah and I went on a movie date. - Which we've never heard. - Which bring back the movies. - Yeah, bring back the movies. - Like, I like the popcorn. - What you did. - That fountain soda changed my life. I was like, my eyes were rolling behind my head. I brought a face mask and under eye patches and I did both of them. - Yeah, you even threw one my way at one point. - Yeah, I brought you two and you would just said, thank you and then you didn't use it. - I almost thought you got scared. - I wanted to. - I wanted to appreciate your culture, so I said, thank you. And I was like, I'll do this at a later time, not in public. - I looked over. I was like, we've got two hours left in the movie, but you're basically-- - Oh, so you cut the face mask on for three hours? Is that what you sleep in? - Oh. - It was a three hour movie. Well, it wasn't gonna do sit there and twiddle my thumbs. I'm like, I'm multitasking. I'm a 34 year old business owner. I have things to do. - Can I admit something to you? - I went around my red light if I knew it was just you and I in the theater. - Well, first we get in a fight 'cause we get there and there's a huge menu. So we're overwhelmed, we're oversimulated. And it's a three hour movie, but we're not hungry. It's four o'clock. - Oh, we're squirrel. So we're like, what? - Yeah. - So that I go. - I go, maybe they have one of those QR codes where you can order like midway if you get hungry. And you're like-- - It's too bad. - I know. - They don't, they would advertise it. And I go, look, I know food, and I know business, and just follow me to the, and you were like, this is not-- - I go, there's no sign. - There's no sign. - So I can do that. - I say, watch this. I go, is there a way to order while we're in the movie if we decide to get hungry? He goes, absolutely, ma'am, I look at her. I said, don't question me again. I turned full into a Mormon house.
my husband and then I was like, wait, but I did, I paid for the snacks and I got the tickets. And then, okay, I have something really embarrassing to tell you that I just want to like, it just like wasn't appropriate at the time because we were having so much fun. What? I had my popcorn and you were paying and when the popcorn fell out and I was like, I'm just going to eat it. So, like, go to grab the popcorn and as I'm chewing, I realize there's like paper and I just, I picked up a popcorn and someone's like, crunched up paper straw. Like, how do you even, like, first I was like, this is a little stale popcorn, I'm chewing it like a whore. I'm like, you seek out disgusting things. I think how do these things happen to you? When you weren't looking, I spit it out. All in the three seconds that I got my card out of my purse and put it in the thing and it was one of the gross things that's ever happened to me, I was like, this is not even my straw. You and think about it, that person had to go with his fingers and go like that. The popcorn must have been next to the straw, so I just thought it wasn't even your popcorn. That's so disgusting, I think I'm such trash, you make trash, you make trash, I'm a raccoon. You ate trash at our date. By the way, I didn't immediately know, like, I don't want you to make, what is this texture of? I had no idea. I know because I didn't want to tell you. You could have told me. I just like knew you were already overstimulated, so I don't want to tell you. I don't want to tell you. Okay, so we went and we saw, you can see everything by the whole thing field. Yeah. Which, Hannah and I are well versed on Elizabeth Holmes because Hannah dressed as her birthday Halloween. And I'm really good at speaking like her. I think she thinks giving, which actually would be hilarious, we dress like her for Thanksgiving. We both watched the drop out. I never betrayed anybody. I swear. And we both watched the HBO documentary. Initial thoughts on it. Well, my initial thoughts was, it was three hours and I was worried for us. Yeah. You almost got out of it when you saw those three hours. I was almost like, and we could probably wait till it comes on streaming. But I was like, let's commit. It has such, everyone else likes it. Yeah. Let's be followers. I was riveted the entire time. I didn't even look at my phone. I don't know how much I want to give away. You guys can fast forward if you want to still see it. But there's new characters in the Elizabeth Holmes worlds. And it's, it's the name Danny. Billy. Billy. It's her husband, Billy. Yeah. You get a full frontal. No. No. No. Because all my friends were like, and text me after you see that I have so much to talk about. And like, oh my god. No, like, and I thought that everyone was talking about like the big surprise was like Amanda Cipher. It has a real major role in this documentary. I thought maybe she popped in a little. Like no, she's a major character of the doc. The full frontal of Elizabeth's home's husband. And I'm going to say in the first 15 minutes, no warning, no trigger warning, we barely know his name yet. Yeah. Hello. What happened to? How are you? Like, we just stepped into their home. He's like, here's my take. You're like, I literally sat back in my chair. This is assault. That was crazy. We both look at each other, and they're like, okay, we got to dig in, we got to continue. And then like, throughout the movie, part of me is like, I hate this guy, I know, his penis was smaller. I'm like, I'm, I always think it's fascinating to see people who have like a narrative about them and like, what's the truth behind it? And Nathan Fielder doesn't try to be funny. No. I would argue he's quite serious in it, but naturally he's Nathan Fielder. Some people say that this is a whole character. That's, I have to watch more of his stuff to like, is he being the same as? No, like in the rehearsal, he's the same. Yeah. I think it is a character of his, but like when he was talking to Amanda, it was like, that was him just being honest and real. Yeah. It is. I don't know who he was dating that he said he, like, what a great guy. Because I'm just like, what's hit? What is his type? I want Nathan Fielder to do a documentary about Nathan Fielder. Me too. But they show like this devastating story. To Nathan Fielder come out at "Evistry." Nathan Fielder do a documentary about us. But it's devastating this woman who has two young children who's about to go to jail and is like Nathan Fielder hang out with my family during these last moments I have. Yeah. And it is weird, strange, strange. And you don't know what's true and what's not true. I mean, I have, do you want to hear my theory? Yep. My theory is that she's not a pernure. And she really had to believe that this product was going to work. And she had to keep promising things. And she has to sell herself. And she's in it. And she's in it. And she got to the point where it could be people around her, whatever, but they were like, we got to give this a chance if it's going to work. When you're under so much pressure, you're making logical decisions. I think she conned people. But I don't think it was a malicious, like, from day one, long con. I think she fell into this scenario that she ended up fucking people and putting people in harm's way because it got too much. But then the fact that she keeps playing with the words of being like, it can test for things. It could test for things. I'm like, it didn't. Right. It didn't. Do you think she deserves to be in jail for 10 years? I don't understand where they get these jail sentences. It's giving, like, lowest saying how much to pay for babysitting. Right. Right. And also, it's one of those probably, like, she behaves well and she's out into something. I've watched a lot of stuff. But I was a little frustrated where I did want moments to be like, I think he wanted to leave a little mystery, but I wanted to be like, but it didn't work and you put people in harm's way. Right. But they never, like, fully got there. Another thing that they didn't that I wanted more of was her parents let the mom speak. Yeah. Let the mom chime in. Because she was everything because she was squeezing her husband's hand and squeezing her wine glass. Like squeezing a cup. And there was a part where Elizabeth Holmes's husband says to the dad, like, he wants the dad to stop doing the interview and it's like, okay, but that's what Nathan's here to film a documentary. So who are you to come in and be like, let's go outside, like stop doing this? And the dad was almost like scared of him kind of, but then he was like, I really trust Billy. Like, how this guy gives me the, the he be GBS, but with Elizabeth's life, she was in a relationship with that older man who was, which also, you know what, and it's sorry, I hate to say it, but it's like, I know that Elizabeth Holmes doesn't have an ounce of Italian in her because like how her mom hasn't pulled her out by her hair in multiple situations. But I also think like the mom knows, yeah, the mom always knows what's going on. I don't need Billy and the dad trying to figure out what happened. The mom would just have to say she's, she lied her whole childhood done. Okay. Now we know she's a liar. She's a con artist or the mom could say her whole childhood, she was sweet and she's maybe thinks differently than other people. She's easily manipulated. This is not my daughter. She gets in with the wrong crap than we would know. I need the mom to write a subset like as an anonymous person quickly, like tell us what you really think of Billy. And then Billy is, you know, she had like sniffles in the second, like once she went to jail. He's like a sniffing. He was like, all the time interesting in it. And people thought he might have been like, "It could be like a tick." But he didn't do that before she went to jail, but they'll talk about their love in a way that's giving, called, a couple in a relationship on Instagram that needs to constantly remind themselves and everyone else that they're happy. Yeah, it's giving, like you put a vial of blood around your neck, I'll put a vial of blood around my neck. But it's like both of you should seek therapy. The fact that they said they've never fought. If I was about to go to jail, I feel like some stuff would come up that might like annoy my husband. Yeah. And like we try to work out some pretty serious issues. But about when he was just like, she's weird. That was crazy. He's like, she's strange. She's looking at her like, she thinks differently, isn't she so cute? Yeah, it almost. He almost gives, like, this is his science project or like, I don't know. Maybe he's obsessed with fame and he sees a woman that's famous, doesn't care that it's for all the wrong reasons. Yeah, like he just, it's infamy. Yeah, because he goes, I knew that I loved her the moment I met her in the field. I was like, did you know that she was indicted for like fraud and she owes the government millions of dollars? Sometimes like men are good at masking that they have no personality and no like character development. So they latch on to someone who has a tone. And then they're just like, yeah, me too. You nailed it because that, you know what it's giving? He's not in love with her. He wanted to be her, which is why when she went to jail, he took over her Twitter account and started literally being her and getting the attention of Elizabeth Holmes. He then was so incredibly rude to Amanda Sifred while Amanda was in his home. Oh my God. - Also, we didn't talk about like a bit.
and getting a little, had a couple glasses of wine. I mean, she left that house hammered, I felt like. - She was like, I'm gonna bug that moment. - She had a good time in there. - Well, my favorite part was she was like, I'm really good at connecting with people and they really open up to me. - Yeah. - And he cut to the dinner and she's like, I don't like you, I don't like you. I don't stand for it, I don't like what's happening. Just, I get in a full fight. - She's the star of the dock. - I mean, truly the star of the dock. - Well, then the fascinating meta moment is Elizabeth Holmes watching a fantasy from play her. And then he shows that scene to Amanda. So Amanda's watching her watch her. Amanda say for a kept being like, I was, it was a fictional story about a non-fiction story and it's just her nuance. - Yeah, 'cause that wasn't comedy. That was even deeper. That was like, she represented her. And people in jail and the public think that everything Amanda C. Freed did was, what, Elizabeth Holmes did. - Robert Pattinson just played the guy in a movie, the predator guy, and he was like really pissed about it. - Yeah, 'cause it's basically saying like, this is my story when it's not. - Right. - Especially when you're not involved in the making of it. And Amanda's like, everyone knew that she doesn't evolve. - You feel like you shouldn't be allowed to make something of it. - But then that's like, that's like freedom of speech. And that's like art. - Speaking of art, freedom of speech, and problems. - Of course. - So you've seen Katsai? - No, it's going on. - Oh my god. - There were like too much of kids for me. - So it was six. One of them dropped out, another of them dropped out, now they're down to four, and one of them, I guess got a concussion or was injured. - Okay. - So they canceled the show like 30 minutes before. All the girls, little girls are crying. Everyone's upset. The moms are upset. - They're not fucking happy. They have to call their babies. - Where are they? Where are we in the world? - I actually don't know. Somewhere in America. - Iraq, Iraq. - Next show, the girls are dancing on stage, but one of them is sitting in a chair. They put on the stage with sunglasses, just sitting like this. - The one that has a concussion? - Yeah. - I don't know what happened contractually with like the K-pop group, but apparently it's a thing in K-pop where like if you can't sing and dance, you have to sit on, but I'm just staring at the chair of shame where the girls with these sunglasses, she looks pissed. - Also, if you're concussed, you shouldn't have fucking pyrotechnics around you. - Yeah. - We learned pyrotechnic. - I know. - No, wait, that's quick. - There's gonna be a documentary in a couple of years about all these K-pop books. - Well, everyone's like, let her sit back. Stayage, this is insane. 'Cause also it's distracting from the girls dancing. - Is this the same story about how then they all went out that night? - Yeah, but that was, but apparently that was a lie. - Oh, like they canceled the show then they all went out. - Yeah, you can't believe everything you see on them. - Okay. - Got it, got it, got it. - But how old are these girls? Like early 20s? - Okay. - They're babies. I watched the cat's eye documentary, so I'm really caught up on cat's eye right now. - But how long has they been abandoned? - They're at K-pop group. - Okay. - Like two, three years. - And they're already have a documentary about them. - But it was a whole competition to get there, and Adela was one of them who didn't get picked. - It's a whole group of the show. - Oh, there's so much lore. - But you're deep in general for what's going on? - I have, but wait, imagine on our tour when you're not feeling. Well, you just put sunglasses on. You sit in the corner while I do like jazz hands. - Hannah and I have laid in bed. The other day, laid in bed for hours, and we worked back to back on all our shows. - We got so much work done. - I actually got emotional after you left because I was like, oh my God, I just spent the entire work day laying in bed with my friend saying, that's funny. - No, we can't go to the show anymore. - There were some moments when I was like, we should have a podcast. - That's a show. (laughing) Shout out to Dez. It was his birthday. But he's in Australia, so he calls me. And I'm like, hey, good morning. How are you? He goes, your mom's calling me. I'm like, why is my mom calling you? He's like, let me get this. He calls me back. He's like, do you have anything to say to me? I'm like, no, and he goes, well, your mom reminded me, it is my birthday. - Wait, when was his birthday? October? - Well, it wasn't his birthday, my time, but she knew his time. My mom is just on top of-- - November 12th? - Yes, November 12th. - Okay, so it's still a time, I can still text him. - Yeah, you can text him. He's like, he, but he's not a big birthday guy. He's had a lot of them. - Neither am I. - Scorpio's aren't. - Really? He's really accepted that gift I gave you yesterday with open arms. (laughing) She was like, I don't want gifts. And then she's like, ah! - No, Hannah got me the best birthday gift. She got me the cutest pink deor shoes with a little bow on the front. And right when I saw them, I put them on. It actually made my life seeing you excited about them. Because nothing brings you as much joy as-- - I don't put it on immediately. - I don't like it. - You're fake, you're being fake. Also, when we were hanging out, I saw Daphne. Now, Daphne and I had slept together. - Yeah. - Recently. - Yeah. - So when I walked in, I was like, hey. - Hey. - Yeah. - Recently. - I saw you on eighth avenue and you paid me no money. (laughing) - I walked in and she was like, actually kind of annoyed. She was like, not this bitch. - So I think she's strapping crumbs everywhere. - She's like, what's a smell? (laughing) - Oh, Hannah's here. - So I left her alone. - Yeah. - And we worked and had fun. And as I'm leaving, she's lying there looking so cute. - Yeah. - Looking as if she had just fought in a war. - Exhausted. - And got home and was like, my body shutting down. - I'm asleep. - So then I obviously go to Petter because she's so petable. - Yeah. - And she's so many-- - Fluffy. - She's so fluffy. So I go to Petter and she looks at me and I realized like, she just got groomed. - Yeah. - She looked me like, get your dirty paws off me. I just lick that for 12 hours and you just touch it and ruin it. - Well, my pet, like I said, the Daphne likes to be groomed in a timely fashion. So like every couple of months, she likes to get a bath and she likes to get her paws like shaped up. - She's like, what's your nails done? - It's a monster. - And so I was like, look, I yep, I'll keep her on a schedule for a fucking bench. So the other day, I get her groomed. It's just like a truck that like gives her a bath and like trims her nails and like whatever. They're not like actually cutting her fur. - Although she's so sketchy white van, they're like, you should be your dad. - I was like throwing their Louis Vuitton case. I'm like, I'll be back in third day. - And that day I'm not kidding you. I really felt like she kept presenting herself to me like all day. Like, I feel like she-- - No, no, no, no, she was like doing weird things that she's never done before. Like, Dami has no interest in human food and she has no interest like when you're eating food. - 'Cause she's had enough of her own. - Yeah, probably. - And so like the day she got groomed, she kept like putting her neck up and then she even like jumped up on the kitchen table with her paws like, hello everyone. And I was like, is this because you got groomed? - She was feeling herself. - No, she's feeling herself. - But yeah, when I, she did a look up and down like, don't you ever-- - Yeah, she's the best. - Even look, also 'cause Dez is gone. - Yeah. - I've like, I've lost control. I like played tennis this morning. I honestly like had some epiphanies about my forehand. - Yeah. - I started texting one of my friends and she was like, I'm playing a tournament this weekend. You should play too. Signed up for a tennis tournament. - No, I'm having like a mental break. - I don't know what's going on. - One day. - On Saturday. - Where? - Somewhere in Florida. - Yeah, no. - I signed up and then the Instagram of the tournament messages me and was like, hey, thanks for signing up. - It was just like online, you could just sign up. - Yeah, it's like $150 and it's like a money tournament. - Should I sign up? - I make your odds better. - We could, wait, what if we just start hustling tennis tournaments in Florida? - Part of me is, I don't know if I'm like living life to the fullest or if I'm having a mental break. Like, I'm the wrong person. - Oh, I'm sorry. - 'Cause it does hold me down. - Yeah. - Does like, - No, I think this is fun. Why, what? - It's really, here's the thing. It's all in how you react after. - Yeah. - So I think we'll check in on Monday's pod and see where your mental's at and if it brought happiness or if it brought anguish. - Yeah, I just think I yearn for peace and quiet in my life. And the second I have peace and quiet. - Yeah. - I fuck it up. - Yeah, you're like, I'm bored. - In monumental ways. - Yeah. - So, how are you? (laughing) Maybe like, let's start the pod. - Let's start the pod. - Should I tell you something that I'm really obsessed with recently and it's, it's something I've made fun of in the past, but I'm like, maybe this is just getting older and like nesting. I love the screensaver on the TV. That's like the burning fire. - Oh, I love it too, it's so comforting. - And like people, I feel like only use it around Christmas time and like the holidays, but for whatever reason my TV is broken and I don't know like how it keeps going to that channel, but every time I walk in it's on that channel and I've found a real peace and quiet and comfort into it. And now I like, I can't not have it on during the day. I'm like. - You're just like the pen. - It's been a bit of me of whimsy. Like put your Christmas decorations on all year round. - But I do think the fire is aesthetically and this the crackling crackling? - The crackling crackling? - Yes, it's extremely calming. I'm gonna bring my tuning forks on tour. - We're gonna get stopped in security. Like who has thought about it?
- Weapons. - Are they sharp? - No, they're not sharp, but they really, they're gonna look weird in a screener. (laughing) Now, did you try to explain to the TSA agent what attuning fork is? - I'll just say I am a pianist. (laughing) You think I'm like tuning a piano or something? - Well, you have to tell them. When the guy came into our room, I'll be right back. (laughing) - Okay, okay, this is so violating, it's so crazy. Hannah and I are in my office, we're in my bed. - Yeah. - Hannah has a lola blanket, I have a lola blanket. Like, we're literally working in the zone. - In the zone. - Yeah, Hannah has a laptop, she's writing, I'm speaking freely, things are wrong from me. (laughing) I'm like, wait, comma. - Hi, it's okay. (laughing) - I had to get the juices going. - Actually, you hotboxed me. - At one point, I was like, I'm doing a creative process, get with it. We're just enjoying our time. I hear, there's like, from where the bed is, you can't see the door to enter, it's like down a hallway. So I hear like a knock on the door and someone say hello, and I get immediately pissed off, 'cause I'm like, Joe, I'm working, like what? And then it's like, again, hello, and I'm like, oh my God, now I have to get up from the bed because I'll kill you. I get up and it's a maintenance guy. Okay, it's not what it looks like. Yes, this is my friend, but like, we're actually working. This is not like a throw up of my shirt. (laughing) The maintenance guy walks deeper into the bedroom and pulls up the blanket. Like she was nail-painter and she's wearing the giggly squad shirt that is a bikini shirt. So I go, (laughing) we made it 10 times weirder than it needed to be. I said, I'm naked, and he put it in and he was there to like fix the air conditioning. And you're like, you're wearing a full man's men's t-shirt. It's different shows, like a prom. Like, oh, I was like, air's working. We're freezing. Also, he definitely was like, what are these two girls possibly working on? Only fans' stuff, something. I mean, there was no other, we looked ridiculous. (laughing) We look at 1.8. We're not in the bag. Yeah, you apologize. I said, it's not my side of the bag. Do whatever you want. Also, here's to know that Instagram, like, nice is girl you've ever met who has a boyfriend. Like, that's a really good idea, Hannah. Jo, what do you want? (laughing) Jo, well, I was like, how dare you interrupt a work. I wouldn't step into your work meeting. Yeah, I'm not getting on a Zoom call. Like, I'm being like, is this your conditioning working? No, wait, 10 minutes. No, I was, so I was like, annoyed. I was like, that's so not you, not your demeanor. How dare you? And then I'd like, yelled for him. And he was like, oh, no, then he texted me. And he was like, the maintenance guy is coming out. It's like, yeah, a little late. He's in bed like this. No, we're having a dream. Oh, my God. (laughing) I'm in the covers. This is what you said. I'm like, he was a very nice guy. He was very nice, really, really nice. But, you know, just give us a warning. Warning. No, it was really good. When you're a computer, like freezes, and you have to force quit, I love it. Do you send a report or not? Oh, what am I, a narc? If I get mad enough, I'm sending a report. I don't know where it goes, and it's never gone anywhere, but I'm sending that report. Wait, I stated a hotel recently, and they emailed me and said, how was your study? There you go. (laughing) Do you want to know? What happens when you go for it? They go for it. They go for it. They respond, they go, we're so sorry. I was worried. (laughing) I go, it's nightmarish. I go, I'll actually never stay here again. Wait. I had one hotel, that was a problem. Yeah. We're at 6 a.m. It sounded. Wait, after I typed it, it said, do you want to put this on Google CL? But I go, no. This is a private message between me and the hotel. No, I don't want everyone to know I'm fucking nuts. (laughing) I went with this hotel, it sounded like someone was trying to escape the fence. Yeah. And it was loud, and it was at 6 a.m. and I was jet lagged. And Desi and I are both like, what is this? Yeah. And it was like a nice hotel. So I went full care in and started filming it. Yes. 'Cause this is the best. It's just gonna be easy. No, no one would believe me. Mm-hmm. Like you're a woman. I'm a woman. Why would they believe you? So I'm filming it, and then they were like, we're like, hey, you woke us up with this noise that went on for over an hour. And when I sent the video, they were like very apologetic. But if I didn't have the video-- Yeah, you wouldn't have had it. It would have called a bullshit on me. What was that? I don't know what it was. I mean, I hope the person's-- (laughing) They were like, there actually is, in fact, someone in the fence. Thank you. Bringing this to our attention. And that was the night after my, my dulk of legs. Oh my God. Miralax did reach out and he's sending me some stuff. So shout out, Miralax, thank you. Forums. I can't keep them straight. Who were they? Miralax is what I should have taken 'cause it's less intense now. I'm actually like, I'm really knowledgeable about this stuff now. What's up with the names that they're all like, dulk of legs? 'Cause they're like a jazz club. They're all jazz clubs, speakeasies. Miralax. Like that's at LAX, and that's a club you can join. The Miralax Club. I feel like you have to have locks in it. But you don't, you don't, you can be different. What about Mirapoopsy Oopsy? Yeah, like what's the lax? What about Mirapoopsy Oopsy Oopsy? No, not off the, like, okay, so I didn't do it well because I didn't fully twist my eyebrows, but I tweaked it. You know, I was gonna say-- I tweaked the edges a little to try to make them a little more, to lift the face, but I didn't tweez literally like all here, so I don't know if it has the full effect. But I think it lifts the face a little like-- No, I think you look good. Somebody said it should be here, like where your, like, eye starts, and then here. That was so unhelpful. Sorry, everyone's confused. Sorry, where your eyes will look at my eye. And then you'd be louder, it doesn't make it make more sense. Whatever. You're very gary-coated right now. I go to the best girl ever. Her name is Ozzy, A-Z-I. Oh. And she's on 20-- Actually, I don't know what street she's on. It's good anyway. What's going on with the bangs today? Do you want to make a statement? That was so fucking rude. They're just like-- Here's the thing about bangs. That was so corny, Kardashian. You're so fucking rude. Do you have it? They, like, do the-- They look good. They do their own thing a lot of the time. But you know, it's the best thing for bangs if you just cut them. Sometimes, like, when you blow dry your hair, they're just like too fluffy. Yeah, it's just like whatever. I take, like, the trezome-- like, the sticky would do, like, a slick back with. And you just do, like, a little in your bangs and you try and make them stay, but whatever. Yeah, just take some mirror legs and smooth it on. Honestly, I'm going to do a slick back bun. I have to go to a dinner tonight, and I can't deal with my bangs. Oh, yeah, I got out the dinner because I have a lot going on. I know, and I got out of the jazz brunch, so I was like, you can get out of this dinner, and also, you have a child at home. We keep score in this household. When it comes to, like, cancelling, yeah, we do. We're like-- But the truth is, you always even out, because we'll always cancel a plan. That's why you got the tickets I got at the popcorn. It's going to-- we're going to see each other again. And that's some patico, baby. We love you guys so much. Thank you for giggling with us. And we'll talk to you later this week. Have the best-- is this the beginning or end of the week? End of the week, have a great weekend. [MUSIC PLAYING]
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host critiques the Love Is Blind reunion for being cringey and overly dramatic, highlighting emotional contradictions and poor storytelling, especially in interactions involving John, who is portrayed as emotionally distant and manipulative.
The episode emphasizes the importance of physical comedy and emotional authenticity, with Michaela’s fall and the audience’s reaction serving as a moment of both humor and relatability.
A key theme is the gender dynamic in media, where women often face being silenced or spoken for, and the host argues that men in reality shows are more likely to be heard and trusted than women.
The host suggests a gay man should host future Love Is Blind reunions, noting that men are often more supportive and effective in navigating complex emotional narratives.
The conversation touches on the problematic editing of women’s storylines, such as Neha’s segment, and calls for more space and authenticity in female voices.
The host expresses fascination with Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, praising its focus on real women navigating religious trauma and non-traditional relationships.
A humorous anecdote about a movie date reveals deep personal and emotional tensions, including a gross incident with a contaminated popcorn and a lack of trust in shared experiences.
The episode concludes with reflections on mental health, personal growth, and small joys like a comforting TV screensaver, tying emotional vulnerability to everyday life.
Summary:
The episode blends personal anecdotes, critical commentary, and humor to explore the dynamics of reality television, particularly focusing on the Love Is Blind reunion. The host critiques the show’s emotional inconsistencies, especially in how men like John are portrayed as emotionally detached or manipulative, while women’s stories are often overlooked or misrepresented. The conversation highlights gendered power imbalances in media, arguing that men are more likely to be heard and trusted in emotional storytelling, and suggesting that a gay man should host future reunions for greater authenticity.
The host also praises Secret Lives of Mormon Wives for its candid portrayal of women navigating religious trauma and non-traditional relationships. Personal moments, like a chaotic movie date with popcorn contamination and a heated reaction to a hostile date, underscore themes of trust, vulnerability, and emotional honesty. The episode concludes with reflections on mental health, personal growth, and small joys—like a comforting TV screensaver—emphasizing how everyday experiences reflect deeper emotional truths.
Throughout, the tone remains playful and self-aware, blending satire with genuine insight into modern media and relationships.
FAQs
The host found the reunion cringey due to awkward moments and unfiltered emotions, but also emphasized that it's so engaging and revealing that it captures the essence of the entire season.
The host noted that John appeared emotionally distant and unresponsive, especially during Michaela's fall, which made him seem cold and intimidating, unlike other men on the show.
The host found the physical comedy, like Michaela tripping, hilarious and relatable, as it mirrored real-life moments of vulnerability and emotional release during reunions.
The host criticized the idea of one woman speaking for many others, saying it can oversimplify complex emotional experiences and that it’s more impactful when people share their own truths.
The host believed a gay man would provide a more balanced and supportive perspective, as men on the show often don’t get the same depth of responses as women, especially in sensitive topics.
The host felt the live audience made the reunion awkward and disruptive, as it prevented the cast from being honest and led to awkward reactions that disrupted emotional moments.
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