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Giggling about prophets, perfume, and gatekeeping

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Giggling about prophets, perfume, and gatekeeping

The conversation is a lively, self-reflective exploration of personal identity, consumer culture, and autonomy in modern life. The speaker shares candid experiences around gatekeeping—such as refusing to follow trends in fashion, beauty, or products—emphasizing that true self-worth doesn’t come from brands or societal expectations. Themes of independence and authenticity are central, especially in rejecting overly salesy skincare recommendations and the pressure to conform to trends like matching nails to lips. Personal anecdotes illustrate emotional and physical struggles, from the stress of daily routines to discomfort with prolonged sitting or social expectations. The discussion also critiques cultural systems, including reality TV and religious communities, for manipulating behaviors through control and indoctrination. A strong feminist undercurrent runs through the dialogue, highlighting resistance to authority and the empowerment that comes from making free, informed choices. Humor and nostalgia are woven throughout, from childhood memories to awkward interactions in public spaces. Ultimately, the speaker advocates for simplicity, self-awareness, and a return to personal values—especially in a world saturated with consumerism, curated images, and performative lifestyles. The tone is grounded in authenticity, reflecting a deep desire to live without external validation and to stay true to one’s own instincts and experiences.

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(upbeat music) - Sup, giggler? - Very picture Wi-Fi. - Manifest that shit, we can't be manners. (laughing) (upbeat music) - I'm in the day just got away from me. - Hello, my Galapagos gigglers, that's a place not in America. - 'Cause it's cold out. - It's cold out. - What is this, like, entertainment tonight? (laughing) - Why are we golden like a wall, lasers? - Why do we wear the CDC, what is the CDC? (laughing) - The CDC. - What is that again? - I think it's really like a COVID thing. - Yeah, something. (laughing) - Women in STEM of the week is us showing up in our blazers. - Your nails are good. - Oh my God, thank you. Someone stopped me in the line of the airport, yesterday and said, "What color nails?" And I said, "Sire, my phone page." Just told me to get them. - Oh, did you do the exact same thing I did? - Yeah, what color is it? - I don't know, he mixes it. - And then I felt like I was gatekeeping her. She's like, "What color?" Like, "Gun to my head." She's like, "What color is that?" And I'm like, "I swear to God, I don't know." - Which is so interesting when girls will like, ask that because I'm like, the bottles are all not labeled. Like, I got one swipe and then does another swipe and he's like, "Do you like that?" And I'm like, "Pinker." And then he writes down what he combined it. - They're doing full chemistry things. - Also, La Roche said, "Bring gatekeeping back." And his argument was like, if you are all telling people where the cheap shop in Japan is to get designer bags, guess what, it's not cheap anymore. He's basically like, "Gate, your guys are ruining things 'cause you're not gatekeeping." (laughing) - No, and I kind of respect that. - Which I respect too. At some point, if everyone knows about something, it's not special anymore. I kind of think if there's anything I gatekeep, all my feelings. (laughing) - Hey, person on the airbus. - It's like, please just tell me what you're actually thinking. - I'm like, "Gunning, finger down." - Isn't that your job? Aren't you professional? - Like, why don't you pinpoint it? - If I'm just gonna tell you what I'm feeling, I feel like, "You're not doing your job." - What's the point? - Also with nails, Haley Bieber announced the new trend, which is, "She likes her nails matching her lips." - I think she's fucked with us at this point. I think she's just like, say in random shit to see what-- - I think she's on my end to the gloss article and said that I like when my nails match my toes. - Wait, did you, oh, yeah, 100%. - Can we go back to the gatekeeping thing for a second? (laughing) - I feel like you low-key have a lot of things that you gatekeep. Like, you never, what products do you put in the newsletter? - I never look at like your products. - I know this is insane to you? - Yeah. - I'm like, what's that, what's that chapstick that you're like, "I'll die." - Oh, I talk about it everywhere. - What's the revival skincare youthful lip? That's $38. - Is there any product that you've, that you're like, "I've been using this since college," other than like, dove, deodorant? - No. - No. - I don't, I don't attach myself to products. - Yes, I'm so curious. - You don't attach yourself to big brands. - Yeah. - No, 100% do, 100% do. But I don't, I don't define myself through capitalism. - Right. - I do gatekeep. There's one like online vintage shop that has really good stuff. - Do you ever go to that big vintage, like they have it every year in New York? I think it was actually literally last weekend that-- - I would love to, I wasn't around. - They have like a big, what's it called? Like a bizarre. Like it's-- - Yes. - We're like all these different vintage places go to one location and you can like shop through it. We should go one year. - I don't know why we never go. - Well vintage markets have been going on. You've just been-- - Okay. - You've just been-- - I've just been looking-- - I'm thinking right now. I've been in the here and now. - I actually tried on something vintage recently and I thought in my head, I'm like, who else wore this? - My jacket's vintage, it was my mom, so I know who wore it. - Iconic. - And she's always like, why do you always wear that jacket? I hate it. - Oh, but I'm like, I love it. - We like him look in the mirror. - This is yours. - And it was like deceiving this morning. - Oh, the weather. - It looks really nice out and like springy, but it's cold. - Are we both really tired? - I got a full eight, but yeah. - That doesn't mean anything. Actually, I got-- - I got 12,000 steps in my own home yesterday. - See, that's where I worry about you. Were you like pacing on phone calls? Were you on a walking pad? - No, just walking around, doing different stuff. Well, I went for a walk in the morning so that helped. - That kicked like 4,000. - Then throughout the day, I was like, I could be doing more things. I've hit the age. It just actually makes me want to die. I've hit the age. - I've hit the age. - Where when you're sitting on the couch, you can't even relax. And especially on a Sunday, because you're like, I could do 10 things to get me a head for the next week. - Trust me now. - And it's really, it's actually-- - I now get our moms-- - My mom will watch TV standing up. - Yeah, remember when you're a little where you would be like, just sit down and like, can we watch this? - They're like, I have 8 million things to do. - They're like, we're dealing with income tax, micro-plastics. There's a lot going on that you don't see. - I'm dealing with micro-plastics a lot more than I should be. - But that's a des, which like, it annoys me, but it's good for my mental health where if we watch two episodes in a row, he'll look at me and go, okay, we need a little break. - I go break. - Two episodes. - Two episodes break. - I haven't even finished my snack. - He's like, we should have walked around the block so I go break. - No. - He and mother fucker, so he's like that where he's like, so I just can't sit for too long. I'll watch TV lying down and he'll just be sitting up watching it. - I'll lay for so long that I literally my hip starts to hurt. - No. - All my lower back is 'cause when I'm watching something, I'm in a contorted, laying down pose. - Really? - And butter's lying on me in a weird position, so I have to hold it or show move. - Yeah. - But anyone who watches multiple episodes of TV, like bitches, just like sitting up on their couch is crazy. - I've never sat on a couch. - I've never sat normally on a couch. - Me neither. - If I wanted to sit normally on a couch, I get a chair. - I don't even have chairs in my living room because I think it's inappropriate. (laughing) - It's like, don't come over and think you're better than me and sit in a chair in my living room. Get a blankie and be a real human. - Have you ever seen those Instagrams that are like, what kind of person are you? If you walk into a room, which chair would you sit in? - Yeah, I love those. - It's like, I'm like, this is my hobby. Where would I sit? - Where would I sit? - That's literally just you and Lam. Okay, you wanna know a gripe I have? - Yeah. - Do you ever go, do you? - You're a son of a share. (laughing) Do you ever go to the grocery store? - No, right. - It's obsolete. It's not the thing that humans do anymore. - Do I say every week I'm gonna go to the grocery store, yes? - Do pop in maybe because like you're passing one and you're really thirsty or like you need one thing and it's right there but I'm not going. Here's the other thing, it's New York City. So you can't actually go to the grocery store and do like a big haul because you can't physically carry it home. So I feel like when I even when I first moved to New York, actually when I first moved to New York, there was a grocery store under my apartment, which was amazing. - I didn't realize how spoiled I was and you could go into your grocery shopping and they would bring it up for you. - I remember that, there was, it was like a thing you could do and you'd have to pay extra. - It was called a Jubilee Market and I loved it so much. - And Jubilee, we love your work. - It was so nice. - But now with Instacart, like you can do a whole big order, whatever. I find myself having to do two separate orders from two different places because first of all, I only ever get matched with a man ever on Instacart or like Uber Eats. - That's the universe having fun. - Oh, like a lucky day, you'll get an Instacart and it will be a woman and you're like, they know where the produce is. Like, thank God. But seriously, there's no something should be done because you waste, I waste so much money just redoing the order. I'm like, I know for a fact, they're actually not out of raspberries because every time I've ever gone into the grocery store, straightened on my little raspberries. - 33 years. - Christian or raspberries. - Or is that? - There are five million packages of raspberry. - Raspberry's like saying to a man like, this is the color teal. Like, they just don't process it. They're like, it's strawberries or apples or oranges. - They also don't know about clementines. - Oh, they do not know about clementines. Like, the amount of times I've gotten a grapefruit and I'm like, cool, this is not a fucking sumo orange. And then look, I'm not a big chef, obviously. - So I'm not ever buying for like, oh my God, I'm making a frittata and I can, like, - No, you saw, I'd take that about sumo oranges and you wanted one. - Yeah, I could try and squeeze that. Like, so it's never like really messing up. - Have you ever had a pomegranate? - Have you ever tried to like, take the seeds out of a pomegranate? - No, I did this when I was little ones. It took me eight hours. It was the most fun I've ever had. - It's one of the, you have to like, hit this thing. - Open it and then like, you have to like spit out the seeds, but then at one point you just start eating 'em 'cause you're like, fuck it. - No, you eat them. I think at one point I was spitting them out because I thought they were gonna grow in my stomach 'cause someone told me that. - Oh, you thought you like sucked out them and then like, spit them out? - Yeah. - But now I just buy them already like, take it out of the thing. I love pomegranates at night. - I miss the fun. Now they just have palm juice. We used to have to, we had to grow it, pick it off the, wherever it is, the tree. - I saw a thing on the internet that said, if you were born between 19 in 1991 and 1999, you had the most picturesque childhood. - Are you crying right now? - But I, I love you in this culture. - I think that's why our generation has a really hard time growing up. - Also, I heard that Gen's youth are trying to like do malls 'cause they wanna like live what we lived. And it's like the moment's over, babe. Also, I'm becoming a, you know you just become the older people in your life. - 'Cause you have a blazer on. - Yeah. - I was at the airport yesterday and a young girl maybe like, I don't know, I can't tell after like, unders, they could be, nine, they could be 60, I can't tell. She was, no idea. She was like 12, 13 maybe. - Okay. - Full juicy outfit. - Yeah. - I was like, we wore those when it first came out but I shouldn't be happy. I should be like, - The things like comfortable back around. - By the way, - The only grape I have with 12 year olds. (laughing) - I'd say it, someone needs to call them out. - I, - Everyone's afraid. - And I don't wanna, I'm not mom shaming. I'm not. The only thing sometimes I think is inappropriate is when little girls have long nails, like long fake nails. - Maybe that's just because my mom wouldn't let me and I'm jealous of those girls. - I think that's the least offensive thing a girl could do is have long nails. Let her have some art on her hands. - Totally, get your nails done but I think long nails are a very old record. - No but how are they typing? - How are they typing? How are, I just think it looks to adult. - Well a girl posted on Instagram kind of like, why would your hands ever not be manicured? And she's getting eaten alive by girls. Full women in STEM who are like, - With a Tahoe. - Is that my brain, sir? - Is it Tahoe the word? - Yeah. - What's a Tahoe? Not Tahoe. Chris, what are those? - A truck. - What are those? (laughing) - Backhoe. - What the hell? - Chris, you know what a backhoe is? - Like for like gardening and stuff? - Spell it or do you know what I mean? - A backhoe. Yeah, like a big backhoe. - Oh like a, like a constructions thing. - Yeah, girls a construction. - Got it, got it. - Sorry, I've really threw us all off. - Yeah. - And on that one everyone's like, "Stop the pot." (laughing) Oh, also, so I was in Miami. - This is how my ADHD works in Miami and the flight got delayed. So I was like, I'm gonna do some cleaning 'cause the only time I can clean is if I know I only have a short amount of time. I'm like, I've 30 minutes, let's clean. - Yeah. 'Cause if you have all morning, you're not doing it. - You love a challenge. - I love a challenge. So I'm like, this goes 30 minutes hard. 'Cause then you're done. - You are the person that's like, "Oh my god, I have all day to get ready." I'm gonna wait 'til 30 minutes so I can rush. - My favorite. 'Cause then they're actually productive. So I mean, we stress it all day. So I'm like, okay, 30 minutes. Let's try to put some clothes away. And I put out my sandals. - You know, they say if you have ADHD, you should wear shoes in the house because you're more productive. - It's true. - Is it? - Yeah, it is true. - I think I slip her house too. - Particularly lace, too. - Yeah, maybe. But I was wearing these like, these flip-flops running around. - Which is essentially a slipper. - A slipper? (laughing) - I'm not gonna fight about this. (laughing) And then I, I'm like, okay, let's get to the airport. Get to the airport. By the way, I'm going to New York City. And I'm in a line and someone checks my ID and she gives me a look up and down. Like, looks at my feet. And I'm like, that was weird. Look down, still wearing my sandals. And I'm like, I'm at the airport and my sandals go into New York. New York is 45 degrees. And I'm like, like, this is the kind of stuff I do. - Okay, see your whole story was about walking out of the house like in a slipper. (laughing) - But it didn't occur to me until like another woman looked me up and down and I was like, she's like, you're wearing your dogs out on the plane. You've got more problems to wear. - On the plane with my dogs out. - Were they cold? - Actually, they were fine 'cause I run hot. But it was when I got to New York City that I'm, you know, you're stepping in puddles which are Chernobyl. (laughing) So I have to check if I've gout on my toes now. - I saw that you watched the Netflix documentary that you were like, I'm not watching. - Yeah. - What did you think? - Well, I fought against it for a second. - Well, it's because like if you've seen one, you've seen them all. It's all like, it's the same guy. - I have so much to say. First, I want to apologize whenever I watch documentaries. I just say what it's about. I don't say the actual title because I watch too many. We were like, that's not the title. - It's like false profit something. It's number one on Netflix right now. You can't miss it. - Truth something. - Truth of something. - White salamander. So, we have a Mormon giggler correspondent. - We do? - Yeah, she tagged me and she's like, please, please, please, do not just say Mormon. This is a LDS, LCDS. - Oh, that LFSD. - I think that was actually really close. - SD, LSDSDD. - LFSD. - 69 at A. World.com. (laughing) - This is the San Diego. (laughing) - Sorry, my mom is here. Latter-day Saints, LD. - But isn't in the documentary, they're like a more extreme version. - They're basically like, they're basically like Mormons don't even aren't even religious. - Yeah, they're like Mormons are? - Of course. (laughing) - They're like, no, they're like-- - They're like, do us sanctimonious. - The made up, they don't even go to fucking church. These are the real ones. And it was funny, the girl even, she was like, we are celebrities in our own right because we're the only ones that are actually close to God. And they know everyone looks at them weird, but they love it. And you know what? - F-L-D-S. - F-L-D-S. This is my thing, I have empathy for all of them 'cause I'm like, find a purpose, babe. Like, the girls are there and they are like, well, if you're born and at like three years old when you first starting having your first memories and someone's like, you've been chosen. Like, what else are you supposed to believe? That's all you know. - Also, it's not like, laxities. Like, oh, they're like, you're gonna die in the burning depths of hell. Or you're gonna be like, having the time of your life in heaven. Pick a side, you pick it, you pick it. You could do whatever you want, which one? They're like, we're giving you, we're telling you what's gonna happen. I think the craziest part too is like, when they had to go get regular clothes to like get that guy from jail, they were like, I don't wanna do this, like I don't wanna wear this, I don't wanna be look normal at all. It's like sad. - It's brainwashing is real, but I didn't wanna watch it 'cause I was like, I've seen this, like a crazy man convinces all the women that have sex with him. Like, how many times have I had a nickel? But it's way more interesting than that because it's this quirky, quirky, quirky, fun lady. Who I wanna be, by the way, who lived this crazy life in Hollywood where she was a puppet. She did puppets. - I missed that part. - You were on your phone. - She was a puppeteer? - Yeah, she did puppet, like, where she's like, oh, no, no, no, no. - Okay, missed it too much. - Puppet, she was like, miss California, I don't know. She's lived a crazy life. She's now with this like hot foreign dude who does music videos. Like, she's having fun. But she decides to move to Colorado Creek. - Well, she was a wife of one of these guys. So she like kind of knew the brainwashing and he did like really crazy things to her. - Well, yeah, first I was like, why is she suddenly feel compelled to live there? And she's like, I was a victim of religious cult. And I totally get how like, that kind of sits with you. Like, you're like, I need to do something about this. So she's at Colorado Creek. And these people, like, she sticks out like a sore thumb. She's like this Barbie doll looking blonde with her husband who's like, has a camera everywhere. And everyone's like, who the fuck are you? And it took her like months. - There was no in the middle of, no. - Gorgeous backdrop though. The, but it's like all polygamy, polygamy, polygamy, polywks. And she gets in with this crew. Well, I started short, the prophet, the prophet was this guy. He died. His son, - He went to jail. - Well, his son decided I'm the prophet. - Right, right, right. - Then like, married, like all these 11 year olds. And they're like, you need to go to jail. And everyone was like, he's perfect. He never did anything wrong. You guys are lying about him. He's in jail, and everyone like does know what to do. And when the guys in jail, he tells them all they can't have babies or get married, which is giving jealous. Like, sorry, just 'cause you're in jail doesn't mean. - Yeah. And also, everyone's related already. So it's like, they're already struggling to like build the community. - Which they didn't talk about that. - I didn't think about that. - They didn't talk about that. There's only so many to work with. - Wait, that's so scary. - Also, all the kids have the same dad. - Wait, I didn't even think of that. That is like, what's that called again? - Insist. - Yeah. (laughing) - And that's a scientific term. (laughing) - I'm sure you're not throwing it. - That's your hat. - That'll be in the title. But if you think about it, they told the women wives, they have to have a kid every year. - Oh my God. - No. - No, you could die. - Yeah, the kids are just dropping out at this point. - Wait, that's like really scary. Actually, I want to make sure that's for your body. - Sorry, one of my close friends is like about to give birth. - Yeah. - She could go at any moment. And this is the first, this is my first friend that like. - He's having a real baby. - That she planned. - Like my first friend that I would call it two a.m. and be like, you have to pick me up. - Yeah. - He's having a baby. - So, it's a lot. I got a new eye cream. (laughing) - By the way, I just bought, she'll tell her husband stories about when we were in our 20s. And I'm like, wait, I feel 102. Adieu. - That was last year. - When I get a facial, I'm always the person that they're like, "You need to buy this cream," and they put a gun to your head. And I always feel bad, so I'll buy one of them. And then they're like, "That was $700." - Wait. - I buy it. - Do you not buy it? - That's two type of people. That's so interesting when you get out and you're up at the counter and you're paying. And they're like, "Oh, she recommended this list for you." - Do you always say no? - Yeah, always. - See, I feel like, 'cause I didn't get a lot of facials and 'cause I don't know what I'm doing in my face. It's like the one time a person, like a doctor, would be like, "We recommend this vitamin C, whatever." And they're always like, "What are you using on your face?" And I'm like, "I don't fucking know." - Whatever. - So salesy. - So salesy. - We don't realize it's salesy. - And so I bought an insanely expensive cream being like, "Well, this is gonna change my life. I'd never use expensive creams." - Yeah. - "Broke out." - What was that? - I never remember. It was just like just like a moisturizer. - No, it was like a serum. - I bet you were supposed to use like, at night. I think it's if I'm gonna pay that much for a serum, I would have perfect skin. - Well, because you don't use a ton of stuff, like it's almost like your skin is brand now. - Yeah. - Like it's like, "What is that?" So I feel like if it's not broke, don't. You don't. - Don't fix it. - Yeah. - I can't wait to see what it was. - Oh, I have to, I like totally forgot. - Yeah. - But anyway, so in the polygamy world, they're left with no leader. And they're not allowed to do anything, and they're all starting to go crazy. And then this literally Joe Schmoe, like he wasn't even respected in the community. He didn't have money, which some of these Mormons have money, by the way. Like they're loaded. - Yeah. He had no money. - Because they have all these women working for them. - Oh, yeah, they have a crazy shop going on. - So he, this Joe Schmoe disappears. - Here's the one thing I don't got. - Yeah. - Okay, I get the clothes aspects like you wanna be, like covered up and it's like treated like whatever. - They obey the men. - I'm not, I don't understand the hairstyles. - I was gonna say, it's kind of iconic. - Like I feel like if Hailey Bieber did it, everyone would be doing it. - The wave. - The wave. - It's just like, how are you getting your hair like that? - I think it's so many products and I can't get it. - I think it's stand out. - Yeah, 'cause you know they're not using Dyson's. - Yeah, like what hairspray are you using? - I think they're choosing it. But it doesn't look tees, it looks very smooth. - Yeah, like how are you getting that whole swoop? And it looks all take no hair extensions. - No hair, I mean their hair is gorgeous. - This is so intrusive, but I wonder if they're allowed to shave. - Great question. - Great question. - Great question. I'll have our Mormon correspondent. - And if she doesn't feel comfortable, I think she didn't tell us how you don't have to care. - But like their whole thing is about obeying men. So it's funny 'cause you're watching these women. And I'm looking at them like, were they worn like this? Like is this them? Like 'cause they've been trained, like they actually love obeying men and they love sitting back. And then you realize that they're brainwashed. And not to give away anything. But like at the end when you see some of them after realizing that they were brainwashed, they're completely different people. They're women who have a purpose again, who like have opinions. The girl literally was like every day I realized there's new things I can learn and be. And I'm like there's new things that I love doing. - Like was it, she was like dirt biking or something? - Yeah, she was like doing like the most bad off-peen. - She's like a surgeon DJ. She's doing crazy, she's like that. So part of me was like, oh maybe these are just there are women that just want to obey to like Joe Schmo. - Do you think there's any girls that are really deep in it that have ever come across Gagley Squad? 'Cause I feel like one episode of Gagley Squad, they'd be like, I might be brainwashed. - You know what? - I literally was like, get me in that villa. - Yeah. (laughing) - For me in that villa, I swear to God. 'Cause there's something in me where like the second a man tells me what to do in any capacity, I reject it. - You know what else people do? - And I also can smell a con man a mile away. - That you can. And you know what else people don't talk about is. - Unless he's good looking. (laughing) - And it takes me about seven months. - And that's your crossfare. - And that's her. - I'm like, can I-- - I only want it doesn't see you. - I don't know if he is reading comprehension. You're like, it's fine, I'll read for him. (laughing) It's fine, I'll spell it out for him. (laughing) - He feels a jawline, I'm like, yeah. But this guy didn't even have a jawline. - The thing that I don't think like, they're obviously not allowed to talk about her. They have it in these documentaries is like, okay, you know the mom that was like, I was catching onto it and then like, she went to the blonde woman and was like, you gotta help me. Like, I have to give my kids out of this. I feel like in some community, there has to be like a ring of women that are like really close with each other that know what's happening is fucked up, but they can't say, like the bonds that the women must actually have because they don't realize how trauma bond is. - Well they're so bonded. The sisterhood is beautiful, like that they have each other. And there's, it's funny, like there's no jealousy 'cause I think they're all just like, we're all going to have them together. - Yeah. - And, I mean, maybe there is some jealousy of like, who's, but like, couldn't they realize that this guy was obviously like, like, sorry, this guy obviously isn't like the normal IQ that like a person that age would be. - Like, you know what I mean? - Just having one conversation, I'd be like, okay, you have a fourth grade reading level. - For people who like didn't watch, it's literally just like a very average man with like 15 girls around him at all times, from ranging from like 10 years old to like 30. And do you know what it was giving? The bachelor. It was giving the bachelor where like, do you know when the bachelor season would always start? You never watch it, but it would always start where the guys like, you're like, he's fine. - Like whatever. - And then by season three, the girls start becoming obsessed with, 'cause like, they never see him. When they do, he's picking another girl. It's all the psychology of like, those girls want him. And then, the guys on the bachelor, their head and let's get so fucking big 'cause they're just sitting there with all these girls, like, pick me, pick me. And then in their head, they're like, if I get picked, I get Instagram deals, I get all these things. So then, it's like a full mental warfare 'cause these girls are basically like, if I can just stay with him, I am going to heaven. And that's what they tell the bachelor contestants. They're like, if you keep another episode, you will get a million followers. So you just become, and then next thing you know, you're like, I need to be around him. I love him. He's actually amazing. And next thing you know, like it takes time and all these girls didn't want to be with him originally. - Yeah. - But then they realize like, it's kind of crazy how like dating shows. - It's social experiments. - It's crazy how dating shows still are so watched and profitable when like everyone filming the show knows the end result is to like get followers to make money, to like live. - Also, the argument when people would be like, they're not there for love or like they're on the reality show to get famous. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Who's not? - Who goes on the reality show to become a better person? Who's like, you know, it'd be good for my growth. - Apparently not. - I prefer. (laughs) - I actually love people that don't give us enough credit for, for leaving. (laughs) - For truly being like, actually, I don't want to be FLDS anymore. (laughs) I want to wear my hair the way I would. - That was you. That was you. I fortunately was forced out. - I was the girl that were like, you're not behaving, you're gonna know. Do you want to know what they knew early that you're gonna blow up the whole thing? - Because she is not listening to the leader. - She's trying for love. - She's not even gonna love it. - No, but I wasn't listening to the leader. I was questioning how things were working. I was getting, I was talking back to the wrong people and they were like, get her out. Get her out. - Wait, 'cause basically I was like, either can't follow me. (laughs) I tried to take over. I was like, follow me. I know it's right. I have a feminist mentality of this. I'm gonna empower the women. - She's so true. - And they were like, get her the fuck out. - Yeah. - Get her the fuck out. She's ruining the whole hierarchy that we built. - She's gonna ruin the tour. - She's gonna ruin the world tour. Wait, I'm obsessed. When you put it that way, it makes me feel good. - Yeah. - The whole group setting. There's like one girl that's always on his lap like hanging off him. - The one part for me that they, I wish they would dive into more. I wish they should make more shows with people who are out of it. Like a documentary of like their lives now. - They're sleeping arrangements. I'm like, what do you mean you're putting 10 girls in one bed that doesn't even, they're not fitting. What are you talking about? - When that's all you know. It's like my Nana growing up. She was sleeping on the floor. That's all she knew and she loved it. - I guess that is, I guess that is true. - Like they're not taking, that's a whole different kind of cults where they take you from like a good place. But a lot of the time with cults, they say like you have to endure pain. So when you're feeling pain, you feel like closer to God. You feel like you're gonna earn the love of things. I know you can never see that. - You can never see that. - I can see that. And my head, God's like, doesn't want me to struggle 'cause he's like, you're perfect, you're adorable. Why would I give you this hard stuff to athlete perspective? Like they would be like, you have to, you know, run two miles and I'd be like, I don't wanna do that. But if I wanna be a champion, I know I have to 'cause other people won't. So I just kept pushing myself, pushing myself, pushing myself until I had nothing left to give. Except trauma on this podcast. - So we will, we hate being told what to do. - You wanna be my mom? - Only by mom. - Only by mom. - Yeah, I was just gonna say, unless I was in your vaginal canal, don't tell me what to do. Like that is the only, because she put all of her cells together to make me, I will listen to her till the day I die. But anyone else, I'm sorry. - You were with us in the hospital. - Are you real? with the point where you like don't take advice from anyone anymore? - Yeah, but when did we, I think, do you wanna know something? I think one of the reasons were so similar is because we do have the same type of relationship with our parents and I think we grew up very similar. - I forgot what I was saying. (laughing) - Oh, so I don't think I don't think you've ever taken advice from someone that isn't your mom and I don't feel like I, we've listened to all the recommendations. - I'll read your suggestion, though. - You can submit to the DJ. - Request your song. - Request your song. - You have free will. - It's running by Lenore. - At the end of the day, the two people making the decision, I mean, sometimes we were like, say to my dad, we're like, you can excuse yourself. - You don't actually do anything. - Sometimes the dad clouds, I'm like, you need to go. - But there are times where my dad's thrown in a sentence, we've taken that sentence. We say he has a good point. But at the end of the day, the decision should be gone. - It has to be too run by a lot of things. I also fully, I guess I was like 32 or 33 and I had a big, important career call, and my mom was on the line. My mom was on the Zoom taking notes. They were like, what is that lady doing? I go, she's taking notes. (laughing) And she was literally shaking her head at points. I go, she didn't like that. I don't like that. One time my mom fixed her glasses on a Zoom and I go, she's purseed her lips. - We're done here. (laughing) - And she lost her. - Yeah, she's actually put her pen down. She doesn't need to hear anything else. - I think I've heard someone be like, oh. Wait, can't bring your mom to a meeting. I go, watch me, watch me. - Okay, after the Kardashian, do you bring your mom? - I'm so happy you've said that because they're in the past. - I'm gonna tell her all afterwards. I'd rather her see it first hand. - In the past year, Kim has been on so many Zoom. - She's on her email. - And people are like, oh, and this is Paige's mom. And I'm like, oh, she's not just mine. - She's the head of operations of my life. - Yeah, what are you talking about? She's the only person in this meeting that actually cares about my best interest. - Period. - Period. - It's crazy. And it's true. So anyway, I meant to load those two most times. It's really sad. - It's like, I think about having a daughter and I'm like, I actually don't want a third career. No, I can't then manage her career. - You look at how to go through so many emails. - I think we're gonna have daughters and they're gonna be like, don't worry. - We're gonna be like lawyers or doctors. Okay, we're not. - Yeah, my mom had to retire from her job to keep up. - Same, my mom retired from her job and now works full time. - Support for today's episode comes from Square. The system powering like half the places I go. If you've ever tapped to pay and thought, whoa, that was fast, it's probably Square. 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And I was like, "Oh, it was the first time someone "beats something at a risk." The first time someone I think ever told me they didn't like something and it was like a core memory in my life. - God forbid you have a little whimsy. - I went out to my mom and I go, "She's like my dress." (laughing) - Can you believe that? - I was dumbfounded. - I mean, well, I was pretending I was nulla and scratching the other kids and they had to, you know, call the police. But I read a book. - Yeah. - I bought "Fame Sick" by Lena Dunnell. - Oh, okay, you already read it? - Well, I was on the flight yesterday. And I was going to the audiobook, but I also brought the book. I ordered "Strangers." - Good. - The actual fit of the book? - It was a fit of the book. - Oh great. - So I read for three hours. - Like read, read, read? - I read 150 pages yesterday. - Oh my God. - But I also like-- - You said we weren't starting a book club. - We're not, we're not. - Okay, but everyone should read. So I'm obsessed with "Fame Sick" right now because one, girls raised us. Like we remember one girl's would drop. Like the new episode would drop. And it would like a different color of girls would come on the screen. - I'm trying to send Lena Dunnell my "Hannity" 'cause I'm like-- - She would love. - Hannah Burner or Hannah Horavath, doesn't matter. - Same. - It's the same. - It is funny. She was describing the characters and Marnie is so you. It's so funny. - It's actually-- - And Hannah's so me, they were like, she means well, but her delivery is off. - And we lived together and I'm like all I care about is me. - And they love each other. - Yeah, they did. - They really did. So because we are working on our first ever TV show, I took it as like a research where she's discussing how she got off the ground. She was like doing little films with like the safty brothers and like little-- - Like out of college. - Yeah, like little festivals. And she basically was like, it's a boys club. Just like all these boys making movies. And she puts out tiny furniture. She puts out this indie film. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It blows up Judd Apatow's emailing her. This other lady's emailing her. And she's like, I have something here. And next thing you know is like a 24-year-old. - Hasn't written girls yet. - No. - She walks into HBO. Well, she had all these LA meetings. And it was really funny to talk about. And then she walks into HBO and they like get her. And they're like, let's do it. So she talks about writing the pilot. All the stuff that goes into it and I'm like, I'm locked in. It's really fascinating. And I think you should read it to help our journey. - Yeah, maybe I won't. - Because she talks about the casting process. She talks about her anxiety through it. - Also, the girl's pilot was so-- - Like you rarely do watch a show where the first episode is one of the best episodes of the whole season. And girls, I feel like really was. Like usually you watch one episode and you're like, okay, like I'll watch a second, but I remember watching that first episode and being like, this is the best shot. - This is a TV. - Well, and it was back then where actually a lot of stuff wasn't being made. So it aired and her life immediately changed. She was, they made, she had done like a little press thing. They took that photo, put her on the cover of New York Magazine. - What was this, like 2006? - Like later. - 2010? - I've no idea. - Whatever. - Look, I've been around for a long time. - I watched so much TV. - Like it was, everyone was locked in on it and she's on cover of Vogue, like, and she, this is the thing about her. She's not like us, we're front facing people. We're like put me in front of the camera. She wanted to be a movie director. She wanted to be sitting in the chair, writing and directing. And she was like, I guess this role could be for me. And HBO was like, you'd be perfect for it. So she didn't want to be-- - Oh wow. - So she didn't write it with the intention of her being the main character. - No. And it also talks about her meeting Jack Antinoff and their relationship. So I'm only 150 pages in, but-- - Which I, for whatever reason, during that time of pop culture, I don't remember that. - They were like, I don't remember him. He was like touring all the time and they would occasionally have like cutesy little-- - I think maybe because they were, it was more like, then he went on to date like a lord. - Yeah, I haven't got to that drama yet. But she is such an amazing writer. And I think it's 'cause she's not trying to be anything but herself. And I feel like, you know, when you read things and people are like, I am so hot. And like this is, like she's never bragging about herself. Which I feel like so many of these autobiographies, everyone's like, it was so hard, being so hot. Like she's just, she's just like herself. And you fall in love with her. And she, she talks about everything. And she's hilarious. So anyway, I'm really enjoying it. But she also talks about how, also it was like, right when social media, I feel like started. - She, and no one told her that you like, can't be reading about yourself. So while everyone else was like calm down, she was the face of it. So she just search her name and see all these horrible things about her. When really, she was at the most iconic time of her life, [BLANK_AUDIO] her head, she thought that everyone hated her because what the internet is when actually she was changing the world for women. She really was. She was definitely changing it for like, I think this industry. But everyone was, oh yeah, and then at one point, they told her she has to gain weight because she was getting too thin. They were like, you have to be fat for the role. Yeah. And she, and she's dealing with her own like image issues and food issues and she like couldn't comprehend like, it was very complicated because she felt like the whole show was writing on her weight. Do men ever have to get really fat for a role? Like, what's the last time? They do, but people like really applaud them. They're like, he gained 20 pounds the next day he lost 20 pounds because he shatted out. I can't think of like one movie where I'm like, oh my god, he played like, he had to gain like 40 pounds for that other than like, Christian Bale, but it's like, well, I know the guy from D.T.F. St. Louis, who dated Lily Allen, or was he put on like a fat suit for the D.T.F. Yeah, to get like a tummy. Sorry, I said to tummy. I'm so weird. It wasn't imperative for him to be big for that role. I don't think. He was supposed to be like, Shlubby. Love saying that word. Shlubby. Um, you know what? I love Shlap. I love saying Shlap. Shlap is such a good word. It's such a New York word. It is, I think. Yeah. Thank you. We have my mom. Not a lot. Um, also one more documentary, born to bull on HBO, to bull ride, bull, bullers. Oh, I thought he said born to bull. So Ben stiller produces it and it is, it's giving, if you're into the chess documentary, you'll be like, it's the same kind of man, um, 80s, where in the country are they? It's a little like Midwestish, but these guys have full-time jobs because like, you can't make a living off of it unless you're like winning everything, which is like very difficult. And the commentary of winning. You could win up to 100 grand for like a huge tournament, but like, if you don't, you can lose money. Yeah. And it's these guys' lives of bullying and whenever this competition I'm in, they all have like characters, um, I'm invested. It's like theater. Yes. bullying is very theatrical. Yes. And it's, it's also like pretty simple, like, so if you make one little mistake, you're fucked. It's very mental. And one of the guys actually-- And I know what assume it's very like one on, like tennis where it's like, if you messed up like, no, you messed up for your team. Yeah. And like, they're sacrificing their families to like, be on the road for three months. Why isn't bullying in the Olympics? It should be. Right. I'm also obsessed with it when the guys wife wives. She was a former college bowler and she's like, I just, we get each other. Like curling is in the Olympics and you're not just like, going, you're not on a Friday night being like, oh my god, you know, it'd be fun if we all in curling. You're not planning your daughter's eighth birthday at a curling center. Like why wouldn't bullying just be in the Olympics? I love bowling because I love when people take things too far. Like, I love it. You're like, at a birthday party and you're like, what if I master it? Like this? Like, I love that for them. Remember bumpers? Do you remember bumpers? Yeah. Most fun ever. Like, I didn't realize people weren't using them. I was like, why would you not use a bumper? That's crazy. And then when they like, took them away, I'd be like, this is stupid. That's why I was like, when the government was like, do you want to pay taxes? And I checked the box. It said no. I was like, why would I, if you're giving me the option, why would I pay taxes? Did I all want to do the government agency that? The first time I ever had like a job with the W2, they were like, fill out this form. And you're a fill out the W2 for the first time. Yeah. It is a scariest thing ever. I don't know what anything meant. Yeah. And it said to you. No, it's actually insane that as a senior in high school, there is not a class for the things that you are immediately going to be hit with as soon as you graduate. It's always like, I've never heard of it. It's almost like nine. Yeah. They tell you, like, you should note, when they start talking about health insurance and they say, what's the, yeah, oh my God, the words they were using, it's like school, they're like, yeah, go, go to the real world, see what happens. So it, there were two questions, it was like, do you want to pay federal tax? And I was like, no, they never took it out. Why would they give me the option if it's illegal to not do it? And that's when my accountant at the time was like, are you sitting down? You owe like, you know, my family? I don't know. I don't know. No, I get that. Anyway, so I'm moving in STEM with a week for that. I had the best meeting with my friend, actually, Ali, we were like going to jump in and call to like write something. And do you know when you have a meeting, it was like six p.m., no, it was four p.m. on a Friday. Do you know when you have a meeting, how like you're so dramatic, the three hours before it? Like you can't focus on anything because you have a meeting coming up. And I was like, I'm going to take a nap. And like the nap was like so good before it because I'm like, these are my last moments. Well, doing a meeting on a Friday at four is insane. So I, we had rescheduled twice already, because no one's listening. I was like, I can't reschedule. Yeah. So this is why I love that. She's the two of you. Yeah. This is why I love Ali. Get on the phone. And I meet, and she's like, I'm tired by the way. And I go, so am I. Do you not want to do this? And she goes, did we hop on the Zoom call to cancel the Zoom? And I was like, wait, I was sure I was on. No, you would have loved. I would have loved that. We literally go, we're in charge, like we could cancel this right now. And she was like, let's not do it. And I was like, I was doing it because I thought you wanted to do it. And she's like, I never want to do it. And I was like, having free will, like I was supposed to go to dinner the other night. And I was like, what if I just put the outfit on, took pictures, and then didn't go? Everyone was like, yeah, you could do that. You are. As long as you don't tell anyone on the block, I was like, okay, great. Get a camera. You got to make sure you're right now. Also, Aly and I did end up talking for like 20 minutes on the Zoom call. It wasn't work-related. Thank you. I was like, anyway, how are you? Another were here. And we were just gossiping. And I was like, we could have done so much work on it. But we canceled the call. And it was like-- Do you know that like the two minutes before you get on a Zoom that I'm just there by myself with other people? I pretend that I'm on my phone texting you to tell you to come on the Zoom call. Which is because I get nervous. Well, I'm like, oh, actually, I'll text her right now. Like, she's coming. I'm super surprised that you keep dealing with that because I purposely show up two minutes late because I don't want to be early on. You know, I fucking knew who you were doing that so that you didn't have to do the beginning like-- Yeah. Where are you? The pleasantries? I knew you were skipping the pleasantries. Yes. I'm not doing the pleasantries. Wait. I'm going to skip two. Yeah. You just have to show up like one minute, 30 seconds late. And they've already done their own stuff. And then you come in all like, what I miss. And they're like, don't worry about it. I'm like, okay. And then I go straight to business. I said, you're fired. That chess documentary did something for you because people are out here playing checkers and you're playing chess. How do you not realize that it's a extra trick? I think because I'm consistent with the way you play every time. I'm phenomenal actress because you come on the Zoom as if you were rushing from something. I was. I was. I'm rushing. I'm rushing to be there two minutes late. You're like looking at something else. You're like, tell-- I'm like, tell the-- She's still the same. I'm really busy. She's a woman in STEM. I have imagine her kids running around. I'm like, sit! My mom tried to poison me this morning. What? Homemoglata. Oh no. Because we haven't had a morning together in a while and she's the best. So I wake up and she goes, you're coffee's ready. And she's making the bed wall a minute. That's her favorite thing to do. She's making the bed. You're the cat. You're her cat. And she's like, it's your stuff you plan that we have to do. And she's like, I'm ready. I'm fully ready. You haven't done anything. And I see whole milk. And I'm like, ooh, I've been doing whole milk, the lactate whole milk, which is-- Wait. I highly recommend to everyone. Petition for lactate. Okay. Listen, we had to deal with all the nut girls-- To Ronald's president. No, we had to deal with all the nut girls for the past five years. Oh, I drink oat milk, I drink pistachio, I drink almond. How about the next time I go to order a coffee at a coffee shop, lactate is an option? All the other ones taste like shit. I said it. Tastes like shit. They're also all bad for you. They're hot milk is horrible for you. Almond milk tastes like actual ass. So I don't think it's that great for you, either. No. There's macadamia. That's a dessert. That's a topping on a dessert. Put it in a cookie. They won't let us have OG cow milk anymore, because they're like, you're-- Like-- You made a whole milk. Stop putting protein on stuff. No. Have a chicken cutlet. I don't know why. First of all, I'm not understanding about the whole protein epidemic. I get it. Our world is changing. G-L-P-1's. People want to build muscle totally. Why are you coming up with the most insane situations for protein when you could literally eat one chicken cutlet? And there you go. Done. You're good. Like, you're fine. You don't need to put it in your dessert. You don't need to put it in your ice cream. Like, I don't need it in my morning coffee. My protein vodka. I don't. Protein vodka coming. Get strong while you're getting black out. It's too much. It's too much. So my mom drugged me this morning. And I said, oh, I don't know if I can-- Did you drink it? You drank it, and then you were like, hey, what? Milk was that? Or you-- No, I knew from the beginning. Well, this is my problem. It's chicken drug you. You drink it now. It's like smoking weed. For me, we're-- every couple of years, you're like, let me try. I forget. And I'm like, it's been a while. Maybe my body's changed. Maybe my palate's different. I can handle it. I'm not the girl I used to be. And I said, I can think a lot to that my mom made with love, but there's love in it. It would never cause me harm. My mom made it. So her argument is that I chugged it. That's why she thinks. Ice coffee? No, just hot. OK. Because I was kind of hard to chug. I did it because I'm coming to Google Squad. I got to be ready, got to be on point. And I'm like, ooh, I have to go have diarrhea. My mom's like, it's not possible that that quickly you would have diarrhea. And I was like, honestly, anything's possible in the world of the white salamander. So that's a Mormon reference for anyone doesn't know. So I shout myself like three times this morning. But I feel really light now. I was going to say you feel aired out. Aired out. I actually think I'd be talk. Light is a feather. Because I flew yesterday. So I feel like I was a little backed up. Wow. So you know what people don't talk about? I was feeling a little backed up. And I said, you know what, I have the perfect cure for this. I'll get Chipotle. I get Chipotle. I eat it. I'm like, I'm weighed in my clock. I'm like, any minute, surely, this-- nothing ever happened. So now I'm bound up. And now I'm bound up with Chipotle. And I'm like, oh, Kitty's worried about her. And she ain't call Hannah. Look, what should I do? So I have a stomach ache for four days. Well, that's when you have to do a home of latte. I can drink home milk. Oh, yeah, because we have slightly different genetics. Yeah, I mean, I really shut in because I do get a stomach ache, and I feel bloated. But I don't have to run to the bathroom. To go full circle from the beginning of this conversation, I have one more thing about skincare I want to bring to the forefront. I also don't care, like, whatever people say. This will make you look younger, whatever. [LAUGHS] You've a list of questions. No pours, whatever people are trying to do. Glass skin. If it smells weird, I'm not doing it. And I once had a facialist be like, you have to buy this. I bought it. And I-- it was some crazy oxygen, whatever thing. And it smelled-- was it the bioligic mask? I don't know. I don't know. But it smelled like shit. Butter was like, what the fuck is this? My husband was like, who are you? I'm in bed. I couldn't do it. In fact, I put something on my skin. It smells bad. I am jacked up. Because you know it's doing something. I'm like, where did they find this? You got never-- It smells something so disgusting. I'm like, it must work so well that they were like, this is gold. We can't even change the smell of it, because it'll change the composition of this skincare. It's always the most expensive best stuff that you put on. You're like, I smell molded food. Yes, yes. So if I'm putting it on and I'm walking out of the bathroom smelling, but it sucks because it's not like you're putting something on your knee. Like, you can't stop smelling yourself. I'm smelling my upper lip. And I'm getting nauseous. But I also can't wear perfume. So that's maybe my own-- no perfume is too much going on. It's-- I get overstimulated with perfume. I can't also be smelling something while I'm existing. Wait, I didn't know that. You never wear perfume out. Does it the same way? Once we went to a meds game, and a guy was wearing crazy cologne, and does it was like, I have to leave? Because it was so strong. I never knew that this is a sober couple going out. We're like, the cologne is too crazy. I'm getting high. I'm getting high. Like, you ever smell something? Wait, do you know that I have designated areas in my home of where perfume goes so that in any given time-- You can spritz. I can spritz if I'm walking out of the house, if I sometimes all spritz before I zoom. But you never are overwhelmingly a type of way. Thank you. I had a coach who, I don't know if it wasn't challenging or something, but he would spray like crazy, and we'd go to do workouts. And I would be nauseous from his cologne. Can I say one low-key, one of the best perfumes I've ever smelled, and I've literally put a bunch of my friends onto it in the past couple of months. And this is not an ad, not sponsored. I smelled it. I actually thought it was a room spray at first. Chloe Kardashian's new scent. It is so good. I have never gotten more-- I know when a perfume is good, because I have so many different ones. And there's a couple that I know that when I wear, I'm going to have at least two people ask me. One is the Prada paradox. Another one is my Victoria Beckham in a turquoise bottle, it's post-itano, it's called. And then my Chloe Kardashian one, by far, the most people will stop me and be like, what scent is that? I love how you have a full control group when you walk outside. You're counting how many people. Yeah, I'm doing staff. But deep down, my thing is, you don't like someone because of their perfume. You like them for them. And people have fallen in love with my phyramones. And my natural scent. Yeah. No, I've had full relationships with men when it was only based on how they smelled. Same. And then you realize you don't like him. You like his cologne. I do think the birth control thing is true. You smell people differently. Yeah. So no, we just keep an eye out for that in these streets. Do you like him or do you like his cologne? Because men around here are gas-lighting you. Gas-perfuming you. Hotboxing you with their perfume. And this is even-- this is how this-- I like all men's cologne. Also, by the way, why do they call it cologne? It's perfume. It's perfume. Why do they like-- oh, it's cologne. It's perfume. Even like, I've ever smelled like gas station men's cologne. You didn't-- you've never got-- Would you like some baby love cold water? Would you go to some love and you-- what? You've never seen cologne in gas stations. Because that's the kind of guy that you have a wild night. And you're like, look, don't tell anyone about this. I don't think of that. I want you to flip and throw me around. Like, you've never thrown me around before. I can't think of the-- Oh, I have to-- That excellent perfume. There's the way he's basically a man. OK, you can get by-- off-branded by ag-rad a gas station. You don't think they're also going to sell a little cologne. Oh, a man who doesn't have a job will have sex with you because he needs a place to sleep at night. That's how that cologne smells. And you'll never have better sex. And you'll never hear from him again because he doesn't have a phone. But-- Gas station cologne. Wait, I think-- It's called gas station cologne. There's like one brand I feel like I can picture it. It's not ag. It's not coming up. No, but it's like-- I think well, smells and good. I have PTSD from acts. Yeah. Also acts, it's like these guys-- get a personality, stop just spraying acts and think and girls are going to throw themselves at you, even though it did work at the time. Guys, it does work on-- I'm not stronger than the patriarchy, OK? I keep saying that I'm just one woman. I'm just one woman. Thank you guys for giving me those. It's time. Oh. Thank you guys for giving me those-- They didn't even see me. They didn't even see me. I didn't answer. You had no notes. You came in with nothing to say. So I don't know what you're talking about. I love you guys so much. Thanks for giggling. We'll talk to you later. Bye. [MUSIC PLAYING]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The conversation explores personal experiences with gatekeeping, including product preferences, fashion choices, and cultural norms like long nails or vintage shopping.
  2. A recurring theme is self-reliance and resistance to consumerism, with the speaker rejecting brands that define identity and prioritizing authenticity over trends.
  3. The discussion touches on mental health, stress, and the impact of modern life, such as over-scheduling, screen time, and physical discomfort from sitting or standing for long periods.
  4. Political and social commentary emerges around cult-like behaviors, religious communities, and media portrayals of reality TV, highlighting manipulation and loss of autonomy.
  5. The speaker critiques consumer culture and beauty trends, emphasizing that personal choices should be made without pressure from salespeople or influencers.
  6. There’s a strong undercurrent of feminist empowerment, especially in rejecting traditional roles and asserting individual freedom in decisions about appearance, relationships, and self-care.
  7. Humor and personal anecdotes are used to break down serious topics, from nail habits to childhood memories and family dynamics.
  8. The conversation ends with a reflective tone on personal growth, resilience, and the importance of staying true to one’s values amid societal pressures.

Summary:

The conversation is a lively, self-reflective exploration of personal identity, consumer culture, and autonomy in modern life. The speaker shares candid experiences around gatekeeping—such as refusing to follow trends in fashion, beauty, or products—emphasizing that true self-worth doesn’t come from brands or societal expectations. Themes of independence and authenticity are central, especially in rejecting overly salesy skincare recommendations and the pressure to conform to trends like matching nails to lips.

Personal anecdotes illustrate emotional and physical struggles, from the stress of daily routines to discomfort with prolonged sitting or social expectations. The discussion also critiques cultural systems, including reality TV and religious communities, for manipulating behaviors through control and indoctrination. A strong feminist undercurrent runs through the dialogue, highlighting resistance to authority and the empowerment that comes from making free, informed choices.

Humor and nostalgia are woven throughout, from childhood memories to awkward interactions in public spaces. Ultimately, the speaker advocates for simplicity, self-awareness, and a return to personal values—especially in a world saturated with consumerism, curated images, and performative lifestyles. The tone is grounded in authenticity, reflecting a deep desire to live without external validation and to stay true to one’s own instincts and experiences.

FAQs

Gatekeeping refers to controlling or limiting access to certain choices, like nail colors or products, often to preserve exclusivity or authenticity. The speaker respects this idea, especially when it comes to protecting personal preferences or traditions.

The speaker believes they don’t define themselves through consumerism or big brands, choosing instead to focus on personal values and experiences over material possessions or brand loyalty.

The speaker finds long fake nails outdated and sometimes inappropriate, especially when young girls wear them. They believe in personal expression but think long nails may seem too adult or overly restrictive.

The speaker sees dating shows as social experiments driven by fame and manipulation, not genuine love. They argue that the shows exploit emotional vulnerabilities and prioritize followers over authentic connection.

The speaker notes that social media can create a distorted sense of self, especially when people are judged for appearance or lifestyle. They emphasize the importance of personal authenticity over online validation.

Yes, the speaker strongly values personal boundaries and free will, rejecting advice from anyone except their mother, and believes that true autonomy comes from making independent choices without external pressure.

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