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Giggling about pregnancy, pearadise, and pink trauma

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Giggling about pregnancy, pearadise, and pink trauma

The podcast features a vibrant, conversational exploration of personal growth, community, and culture. Hosts reflect on their journey with therapy, acknowledging that in their 20s they dismissed emotional needs, only seeking help when overwhelmed by stress or cost. They emphasize how the "gigglers" community serves as a vital emotional support system, acting as therapy through shared laughter and authenticity. The discussion delves into cultural observations—such as fashion choices, religion (especially Mormon wives), and reality TV—using humor to highlight societal norms and contradictions. Themes of resilience, like pregnancy and friendship, are celebrated as natural and empowering. Personal anecdotes, including a moment of spiritual insight after a wedding and the connection between negativity and motivation, underscore how experience fuels positivity. The hosts critique reality TV for its dramatized conflicts and performative relationships, while also noting how real-life situations like pregnancy offer more honest portrayals of life. They explore personal spirituality, including prayer and religious identity, and stress that deep friendships require daily intentional effort. The conversation ends with a playful yet insightful reflection on body image, online culture, and the power of community, showing how humor and vulnerability can transform even the most complex topics into meaningful connection.

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what's up gigglers gary fix the wi-fi manifest that shit we can't be managed i mean the day just got away from me hello my gratifying gigglers we have so much to talk about today i'm like i have like a notebook out you're bursting the docket is crazy we were on facetime last night we we had to hang up that was so sad it was actually sad we were like vibing and then i was like coming up with more shit and then at some point page was like stop we need to save this for the gigglers we're gonna have no content we've just laughed about it all do you realize giggly squad is actual therapy for us because yeah i actually stopped doing therapy a couple months ago because i was busy and but you know in therapy like you you're doing well and you just complained to your therapist about how you you're so busy and how the therapy's stressing you out and then you're like i think you're the problem i didn't think we were gonna get this deep this quickly and it's also like 10 a.m on a monday we're under a minute in wait i have something witchy i want to say too okay okay one of the reasons i think that in my 20s i would go on and off with therapy so much is which is different than in my early 30s my early 30s it's like i really am so busy like i'm fucking up your schedule with your other clients because of me like let's take a minute let's take a beat for a couple months in my early 20s i would fall off because i which now i can recognize i didn't think my problems were big enough to take up someone's time one hour during the week like i felt guilty getting on a zoom and being like i really didn't have any childhood trauma like i felt you were like my friend wore a halter top after she saw me wearing a halter top i felt shame of like you don't have but you're supporting a small business regardless correct it didn't take me till my early 30s to be like that you need to be in therapy for that thought alone my problem was the opposite i couldn't afford therapy in my 20s until like until i couldn't afford not to and then every session i would period every set write that down every session i would be like is this worth 200 and then i would start needing therapy to be like i'm stressed about if this is worth it because i need to pay rent and six hundred dollars what eight hundred dollars of therapy a month yeah that's a lot yeah it's a lot a thing came out that it's now stylish to like not brush your hair and now i'm starting to feel like people are just like coming for your brand coming for my brand i mean i grew my hair out you look we have the same hair right now we have the same hair we're merging in the same person we're becoming one and the gigglers still have not gotten a firm answer from you on the socks and sandals outfit i keep getting tagged what socks and sandals outfit i wore that like brown outfit oh yeah socks and sandals today show and i don't think you commented and the gigglers are kind of upset because they don't know which way to go okay i apologize i can't give a i can't come up with something witty every time my friend also i had a press tour like it was a lot of stuff to keep up with i love socks and like a heel like that i think it's cunt that's the only word i can describe like it's just cunty and there is something about it that feels british okay yes because it's like rainy so you have to wear a sock when you go out i do have to warn people though like a sock with a heel you're slipping and sliding like i almost tore my acl three times you have to have a real grip on your toes and you can't wait we have to invent a pilates sock for a sock if it just had like a couple little button things on the bottom it'd be better i'm surprised that more the inside of more shoes don't have those like heels specifically like in a lot of my like sandal heels if i had those little grippy things at the bottom right where my toes go it'd be so much easier to walk so i know this is so us really four minutes we've come up with a business idea we've talked about our therapy and you want to hear my witchy thing you want to hear my witch yes over the weekend i went to a wedding i had so much fun granted there it was like loud events like friday night welcome dinner there was like loud music saturday night wedding obviously loud but my ears were ringing all weekend okay and ever since i was little like if i ever said like my ears are ringing my mom would be like someone's talking about you like that like cliche she's so italian she's like someone's talking shit it's almost like on your grave whatever i like didn't think anything of it over the weekend monday morning this morning i wake up and i'm just like so motivated i like wake up at like 8 a.m i take a shower i put workout clothes on i go for a like 45 minute walk i get a coffee i do some emails i start i'm like okay when are we doing giggly squat i woke up so motivated and rarely on a monday morning am i motivated takes me to like tuesday night wednesday morning you know i'm like the week has started half past noon i think that my ears were ringing all weekend and someone was talking bad about me and that's why monday morning my because my energy is so connected to the universe i feel like my body woke me up monday morning and i'm like okay when are we doing giggly squat i woke up so motivated because that's what i do i take negativity and i create positivity positivity and success and and so i feel like that's what happened to me do you know it's weird normally i just send you comedy videos but my tiktok was bringing me like really um like fuck the haters videos yeah i don't know why and it was like you know who believes in you more than anyone the people talking bad about you and for some reason i was like i need to send this to page so if you look at your tiktok it's just me sending you motivational videos against people who don't believe in you so i love it we're really on the same page with that i really love it but finally what i just say therapy is like this is really therapy for us and i also just have to do a thank you to the gigglers because my special came out the gigglers watched it if you love me put it on one more time today but like there's so many people like if i didn't have the gigglers like who cares about us i have the gigglers i don't need other people's support i don't need you know fake friends i don't need yeah industry like i just need you're our jaylen brunson okay no someone posted an old you're our comedian jaylen brunson someone posted an old article of like someone making fun of me when i you know left reality tv being like now she's gonna make fart jokes in comedy clubs and it was i think that's a quote taken exactly from you though i did say that no words were changed reporting what they heard the news the news no but when everyone's making fun of me for like this is gonna suck i was like you all created a monster now but it's just the what would we do without the love and support of this community like i met a lot of gigglers this weekend like at airports i mean the gigglers are traveling they're traveling they're summering just to get over with i haven't taken my nick shirt off since the last podcast just kidding but um the next one and the funniest thing about it was jaylen brunson looked at the cameras like guys just be safe yeah there were 63 people injured and seven stabbings and someone commented and said double double double almost a double double which is a hilarious basketball joke but then someone goes no one died a win is a win and the bar is solo for men they're like yeah a bunch of died we did you see the video of the taxi driver that was just like this is my livelihood like i understand that the city is erupting like you could feel like it's moving it's actually i'm like guys we're gonna sink into the hudson like well there were some gay guys that were like i thought it was 9-11 again i know there was a game going on i just heard people yelling in the streets there were two guys up on a um like light pole and they started making out pride one too no and the comments were like if these were identifying straight men that like and they're like it's not gay if it's because the next one that is so here's okay here's another thing also like don't like the school buses on flat fire like it's really scary i'm so proud of the knicks i'm so oh proud of the individual players because if there's one thing i'm gonna do while i'm watching a sports game is like i'm gonna just end up looking up like what's their girlfriend like and like what what's their vibe you know and so like you once you said that the one guy's parents passed away i was like no i need to look up everyone's lore i need to look up everyone's lore such ben stiller's making a documentary right yeah that's why he's walking around horizontal videoing everything such good stories for each of like the starting players but i would be remissed if i did not bring up the number one thing that i thought the entire time at the end of the game the entire new york knicks organization was wearing matching t-shirts and we love that i will have to point out that they were bedazzled the second i saw it i texted you you texted me we were like no one's gonna say anything about this um now be you wear whatever style you want what makes you happy make i love you like it i love someone at the corner office was like what had to make an actual call to be like can we add bedazzles a girl made a tiktok and she said ladies i hate to inform you but we have in fact lost the war running around in bedazzled shirts hugging you and kissing each other and i love i'm not coming on here being a hater of it i love it i'm like yes this is what the men are missing they need to be able to express their feelings this is why girls girls and that's all i'm saying like okay like totally guys like do what you want let's also talk about who actually won the championship first of all um we have jordan woods who like with her magical bag and everyone was joking about it and then by the end no one was joking people were like where the fuck's the bag and i love that it was her own brand her own brand i hope it sells out and i hope that tristan thompson is somewhere having a miserable time that's karmic babe and i love that jordan was like i never needed anyone no i was always that girl and i like that that's entrepreneurship at its finest and then not to name drop but jaylen brunson's wife ally who they've been dating since high school oh i didn't know they've been dating since high school i did watch a video of their wedding though so i missed that i did watch a full recap of their wedding um she i did get to their wedding website she's a giggler yes and we've met her we've met her it's fucking insane my favorite part was he gave her the trophy at one point and i don't know if you guys know the shape of the trophy but like she started holding it like a baby and she was like i don't know if you guys know the shape of the and it was so cute and i'm like and that's the mother of the team for daphne we can like we gift to like a lot of people and we can see when they've been like yes i'll accept this gifting and she accepted it like last week and i was just like oh my god a girl's girl ally you're welcome to come on the pod chat the knicks yeah huge huge sports podcast also i have to do women in stem of braids she's been braiding a lot of the knicks hair and josh hart in particular she braided it to have like a new york sign on top and the guys like swear by it and they need sandra to do their hair before i do love the superstition that is involved in sports because it's like oh you guys don't believe in astrology but if you don't wear the same underwear every day okay guys why don't you keep bedazzling your shirts okay we'll be over there in a minute over here also shout out new york liberty they're playing the girls are still playing but um i do think it was a beautiful moment for new york in general just to show like the city coming together people from all different places and stories and us all just sinking with the happiness well also i think new york city has so much influence over the rest of the country and so i feel like when we're up yeah we set a tone we set a certain tone yeah and i really feel like new york city is it is feeling very 2016 it literally was giving 2016 yeah i do kind of feel like i just got like out of college and i'm like let's day drink somewhere with a breeze um yeah wait are we still talking about the next or can we move no we can move on okay thank you for asking for consent this girl this girl made a tiktok and she was like i have best friend best friended with my best friend so hard that i know all of her fears all of her hopes and dreams like i know everything about her and she was like but i don't know basic things about her so they spent the night asking and i sat there and i go oh my god gun to my head someone said what's hannah's favorite color i have no fucking idea we could like guess but we've not we don't know i have no idea our next thing i'm gonna get into is mormon wives which like might take the whole pod however they're you know macy and mckayla don't hug like they hug everyone else they look at each other like we don't hug and i was like wait that's so best friend why can't best friends hug i don't know it's because we're like it's because i know too much it's like we're so mentally connected that we're like i don't need to touch you it almost feels performative it feels that's why best friends like don't have photos together yeah because i'm like this bit yeah i'm gonna go like it feels like we're making fun of our friend no even on the road when they were like can you guys make a tiktok together we're like with her anytime we're taking pictures and they say look at each other and laugh oh my god we physically can't do it it's actually so uncomfy like we don't make eye contact we just talk at each other we only make eye contact when it's like it's like hey look at me i have to tell you something and like it's it's like when we're in a search situation we're making eye contact where we're not speaking exactly but also i was looking at tiktok there's like two types of girls growing up the girls who liked pink and then the girls who like didn't like pink yeah because it was like a statement yes but like that's me and you like i know your favorite color was pink of course hannah i remember i remember the day the girls turned on me they were like you still like pink and i was like first of all purple is for haters like you it's like you want to be pink but you won't commit to it i'll never forget it was in second grade when all of a sudden the girls were like no my favorite color is not pink and i was like and they said purple yeah yeah because they you know what it is it's a little pick me to be like i don't like pink well then there'd be like one rogue girl that would be like orange i'd be like freeze like well i was like fighting the patriarchy so i probably said blue but i didn't feel attached to blue i just knew i didn't want pink and when you start liking pink again it shows like you're healing i personally pink brings out like bad tones in my skin so i personally don't i think i i really like green it's funny that mystic michaela said that my aura is pink because from a very young age i've actually felt an inanimate object toward the color pink like if i didn't if there was an option to get something and they were all different colors i would feel guilty if i didn't get the pink one yeah because it's because i'd be like that's part of me like that is that's for me even now as an adult if there's like color options everyone always knows page is gonna want the pink one well you have a pink microphone right now yeah because it's cute i really like the ugly green color that dakota johnson's kitchen was like that's my vibe yes but that's also anyway you guys i've been in a k-hole this is a top podcast wait literally the other day i was opening my fridge and i was like we have a lot of responsibility we so many people are listening to the pod i'm like what do i want to say on the pod tomorrow that will like change humanity and then i was like i want to talk about dakota johnson's color of of her i have not stopped quoting grace's date since i found out about it all i keep saying is like we're gonna we're gonna make history i've been leaving the kitchen and saying it like i show um kids say the darndest things yeah men say the darndest things needs to be like the next show like please send us all the things that men have said to you and we'll start a segment with it um also it's grace's birthday happy birthday grace yes happy birthday grace our lord and savior okay i've been in a true k-hole with mormon wives and look i know i'm annoying god forbid i watch something when everyone else is watching it i have to wait like six years later and then i text page i'm like wait this show's really good like kim kardashian how did she do that oh yeah she's like have you guys listened to in sync game of thrones was like the biggest phenomenon of the whole country it was like the last time we were actually united as a country was when the season finale was on and people like hated it i didn't watch the season three weeks later kim kardashian like comes on stories and is like have you guys heard of game of thrones everyone's like yeah i'm obsessed with her so mormon wives is one of the best like it's it might be better than vanderpump rules a hundred percent because for so many reasons but one positive thing i want to say about it is i've never seen women on tv pregnant going about their life in such a normal way i feel someone's pregnant they're either hiding it or they're like everyone's making a big deal of it these girls are just fully pregnant having fights talking shit taking care of their kids talking about their sex life it is no i Like, I'm learning more about being pregnant than ever before. Yeah. They make it feel very, like, your life doesn't stop. You're just adding, like, bonus fun to it. Like, what are you talking about? You could do anything with a baby. Yeah, there's, like, nine girls. Someone's always pregnant, and they don't even acknowledge it. They're like, oh, it's you today. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think people talk about that enough. Because, like, what other reality show is really about, like, the early lives of people? Like, the early relationships of people? Or, like, when someone is pregnant, they're like, she's pregnant. She can't come. She's pregnant. These girls are literally, like, yelling at people's husbands, fully pregnant. And then all Michaela and Macy do is eat. And I'm obsessed. They had, like, a road trip, and they stopped to pee, like, eight times and eat. And I'm like, that's incredible. Like, journalism of what it's like being pregnant in, like, a funny way. And it makes me feel like, like, I was always so scared of pregnancy in terms of, like, what do you do? You're just, like, sad and pregnant in a corner. Yeah. These girls are like, you can do anything pregnant. Yeah. And I feel like I already have, and you too, we've already gone to so many functions where people will be, like, drinking where we're not drinking. And I'm like, oh, okay. Like, I can survive it. I think of it as, like, sorry, I'm Irish exiting. I'm pregnant. I'm growing a human. God forbid I have to leave and use the bathroom. I'm getting a cheese fry. Yeah, like, okay. What about it? Also, now I realize, like, first of all, I'm kind of a Mormon wife because they all wear their hair down the middle with waves, which you know is that's what I ask for. I love. Then, low key, everywhere they go. Like, the one problem with me with reality TV is I actually didn't like drinking, and I wasn't good at drinking. But I was in my mid-20s, so, like, you could have convinced me to do it. I didn't have to do anything, even though no one asked me to do cocaine, which is a whole, you can listen to that episode another time. But all these girls go everywhere, and they're like, we got these mocktails. And I'm like, fun, cute. Instead, I'm the loser that's, like, whispering the mocktail I want to order. And everyone's like, what's that? What's that? What's that? And I'm like, it's the hibiscus tea, like, mint. And it's really expensive. Wait, it's always the hibiscus? It's always the hibiscus with some ginger and lime. Sober people love hibiscus. Yeah. Love hibiscus. And then they're making them, like, shots. And I'm like, I want to hang out with these girls, because all they're doing is drinking cute, fun drinks, all this. Everywhere they go, they're like, here's your fun drink. And don't tell me that, like, they need alcohol to fight, because these girls do not. And they're pregnant. Like, how do they have the fucking energy? I'm just, like, so impressed. I have so many thoughts. Well, they're young. And I'm learning more about Mormonism, which you guys know, like, we're obsessed with. Do you know what a BYU super weekend is? A BYU super weekend? Okay, so Brigham Young is the college. Yeah, so all of them are Mormons in college. And a super weekend. Ooh. You're going to love this. Is a super weekend when you have, like, mixers and you meet, like, potentially your husband? It has to do with Vegas. Paige? No. When they want to have sex, they go to Vegas, get married. Have sex, and then annul it, and then go back home. And I said, these people are fucking geniuses. I'm obsessed. You would have loved a BYU super weekend. That is, like, rebellion at a 14-year-old reading level. Because what do you mean? You're a grown adult. Just fuck. Well, they want to go to heaven. Okay. They want to go to heaven. God created sex. Like, I never, I'll never get that. Like, if he does. If he didn't want you to do it, it wouldn't, like, why? I also, I don't think that God cares about the details that much. No. God's dealing with, like, serious things. He's not going to get into semantics. The nitty gritty of if the penis fully went in. He's like, leave me out of it. Okay. So then they have this thing called docking. Okay. It's, like, a little gross, but it's basically when, this is how they describe it. They put the hot dog in the bun and just move it. But it doesn't go in anything. What bun? The vaginal labia. So they just, like, put the dick. On top of it. Yeah. And they call it docking. And they just stare at each other. Do what? Like, what do you mean? And do what, though? By the way, all this stuff is freakier than sex, by the way. Like, so much freakier. So intimate. It's actually ten times more intimate. Imagine going to Vegas, going through a whole ceremony, and then he comes in 13 seconds, because you know these men will, because they're, like, not watching porn or anything. And then you're, like, we did a whole, we did paperwork for you to come in 13 seconds. And you know these girls are an orgasm. If I have to match a shoe to an outfit, my libido's down. You've ruined the moment. How horned up are they? And they're all doing anal. And for an extent. They're all doing anal. Not all of them. Okay. But they're all doing anal. They're the freakiest. Look, I. This is why I love Mormonism. I believe that you should be able to believe any religion you want at any, as long as you're not murdering people. Like, I think you should believe whatever the fuck you want. I forgot what I was going to say. No, I agree. And as long as your religion isn't hurting other people. Well, you could argue that any religion is a little bit culty. Like, you could hear something. For sure. And that's a little culty. No, I would. I would argue all of them. Yeah. All of them. I think what's happening to these women is it started to be like a couple of things. And they're like, that's weird. Yeah. But then by the end, they're like, literally all these rules are like to suppress us. And we love God and we love morals. But we were talking about this last night that like, obviously, we think that reality TV is such the best study of anthropology. But Mormon house, Mormon wives is even 10 times better than that. Because when they do certain things, you can exactly pinpoint why. So it's like, these things have been done to your mom, and then she did them to you. And now that's how you think and you might do it to your daughter, where like the Mormon housewives are kind of being like, but I am not going to do like, I don't think any of those women are going to put the sexual shame on their daughters that was put on them. A hundred percent. Like, I really don't. I really don't see them. And they're gonna have they're gonna talk to them. They're gonna ask like, imagine putting your daughter in a room with a man and she doesn't know anything. You need to send her in equipped. I'm going to tell her all the bad things to look out for all the good things. Like, I'm sending her in with a fucking checklist. Did you have a sex talk with your mom? Yeah. Like, because Lenore is a principal. I like did she I wonder if she had like a strategic. Well, this is the thing. I was a huge prude. Because I would just cared about tennis and I was the oldest of the family. So I didn't have like older sisters or older brothers telling me things like I remember being a sleepover and someone's like, so and so is horny. And I was like, do they need to get that check? Like, are there bumps? Like, I thought they meant they had like horns coming out of their skin. And I was like, I remember the first time someone said sixty nine. I was like, yeah, my mom literally like it was she'd laugh because I was the last to find out everything. And she's like, you're such a fucking loser. No. But that's. That's very sweet. And yeah, she didn't have to. At one point she was like, do you want to talk to a boy? Yeah. When I dated my super religious football player that I talk about in the special, we did have a moment. He literally was like, you have to come to Bible study with me or like, I don't feel like you're like a good enough person. And I was like, wait, but I'm I'm trying to make good decisions and be kind to people just out of my heart, not because someone's telling me to. Exactly. And he like his brain like exploded. I'm like. Like, you don't actually need someone to tell you to be a good person. That's just how I was raised and what I'm trying to be. I feel like people that are bad people, like really, really bad people, they know. Like, they know they're bad people, because, like, if something happens in front of you and your immediate reaction isn't like to help that person or check on that person, you're you're a bad person. But also, I do think religion really helps people. Yeah, of course, in terms of a lot of ways. But I just don't like when people. Did anyone see Giggly Squad discussing religion? This is a crazy. This is a faith based podcast. And you know what? Would you consider yourself? What's your religion? No, like, honestly. So I say that I'm agnostic, which means I'm not saying I don't believe anything. I just like know that I don't know what's happening. But what were you? Like, did you make your confirmation? No. Did you make your first Holy Communion? Yes. Yeah, I had a little dress, but my parents wanted us to be raised, like knowing about a lot of different religions. But like my class was so diverse, like, so you've never been like, oh, I'm Catholic or oh, I'm Jewish. Or I would joke that like I'm half and half, but like we weren't really celebrating much. It was mostly my Italian Nana being like, it's Christmas. And I'm like, this is fucking. Awesome. Yeah. Also, my Nana wanted me to text, let you guys know when the Knicks won the other game, I said everyone was asleep. My Nana and Papa were awake, and I called them. Well, Nana and Papa saw the one in the 70s. Nana and Papa been awake. Nana and Papa stay up late party. Do they? Oh, yeah. Nana's up on her Instagram responding to people's DMs. Wait, now I'm like, what is Nana's schedule? If you had to pinpoint a time that she's resting her head on a pillow, like 11 p.m.? Late. Like, my parents are asleep by 10. Nana's 11.30 sending me DMs. No way. And what time do you think she's waking up? Good question. I know that she wakes up, she does her exercises, then she calls Rosemary, and they gossip. You think she's waking up at, like, 7 a.m. or, like, 9.30? I don't think 9.30, no. I think she's awake. I don't know. I guess, yeah, I feel like you need less hours of sleep. Wait, I need to know Nana's schedule. We need to know. We might have to get her on. Yeah, that's important to me. The final thing that the Mormons say, I guess they don't say God. So, they say, oh, my hell. Oh, my hell. I didn't pick up on that. They love saying, oh, my hell. And I'm like, that doesn't come off the tongue easy. Oh, my hell. But, like, when you're raised where everyone's saying, oh, my hell, that's just what they say. Oh, my God hits a lot, a lot harder. I say, oh, my God, literally every other sentence. But, like, they don't say God's name in vain. The wedding I went to this weekend, the, I think she was the maid of honor. Whatever, she spoke for the bride. She started, she would know she was doing a prayer. She started it out, dear God, me again. Like, said her name. And I just thought it was. Like, she's leaving a voicemail. Hey. I just thought it was, like, so cute and, like, fun. Like, she found a way to make the prayer. Like, she had to get up in front of everyone. She found a way to, like, make it a little funny. She's like, some other people are, you're on speaker. I just thought it was so cute. No, I love that. Also, by the way, I pray. Do you? Okay, interesting. Like, not fully committed, but every now and then I just have a moment where, like, honestly, I pray when something good happens to me. When something good happens, I just go, thank you, whoever. Do you say, okay, so I was going to say, do you say, dear God, or, like. I feel like I say, I'm like, God, Jesus, whoever you are, you're my girl, thank you. Like, when something really good happens, I feel, like, euphoric. Like, I always feel like there's, like, something going on that's bigger than me. And I like to acknowledge, like. Yeah. Like, that this was not just me. Or it's just, like, thanking life, you know? Like, thank you, life, for this moment. And then, like, in two seconds, I'm annoyed with something. Right. It's very, very short. I do feel I, I would classify myself as, like, pretty religious. No, I know. Yeah. My blonde best friend, Hayley Nicola. Hayley's, like, super religious. Hayley's very religious. But I love having friends who have different, like, perspectives than I do, because it's boring. A hundred percent. But, no, you're super religious. Also, Kim prays for the success of Giggly Squad every day. And that's why we're here. Kim prays all the time. You got any prayers for them? I told you this story when I, like, went through her prayer journal one time. She has a prayer journal. Oh, my God. Yeah. We were, like, where were, we were somewhere together. Oh, no. I think she was just, like, at my apartment. Of course she does, because she's Kim Shakespeare DeSorbo with her feather pen. And I'm just, like, no, her handwriting is so good. And I'm just, like, going through her prayer journal. And all I see is, like, Gary. Gary. Gary. And I'm, like, oh. Wait, you can't go through a prayer journal. That's, like, going through her literal journal. Are you kidding? Hannah, I've been crazy from a young age. I used to, I used to go through my own dad's phone. Like, when he got a cell phone, I'd be, like, yeah, let me see. And I would go through his own text messages. And when, I'll never forget one day asking my mom, like, do you ever go through dad's phone? And she was, like, no, why would I? You do it for me. Wait, so she's on your email? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you're on my email, you're on Gary's phone plan. We know no peace at that house. We know, everyone knows everything about everyone. She is Russia. The second my brother leaves her house, she's on the phone. She goes, you'll never guess what he said. All we do is talk about the four of us with each other. See, my dad, like, still can't figure out how to post an Instagram story. So my mom and I literally are, like, how does he even use his phone? The one day my dad was like, I don't know. My dad, like, deleted a text. And I go, why'd you delete that? That was, like, a new conversation. And he got, like, confused. And he was, like, well, it said I had no storage left anymore. And I was, like, okay, you're lucky. Because I was, like, oh, you learned how to delete a text message. Like, what was in the conversation? Who taught you that? Someone cooked here. And he was, like, what? Also, I saw a TikTok from Trixie Mattel, who's randomly, like, David Attenborough, talking about birds. How scientists did a study where they let birds FaceTime each other. So, like, a bunch of birds. The birds are FaceTiming each other and using their little tongues. And they're calling, like, the ones that are calling more birds are getting more calls back. So, like, they have, like, a full social system. They're recognizing, like, the birds. Different birds? Yes. These birds. Birds are literally, like, kiki-ing on FaceTime. They're, like, they have best friends. What kind of birds? It was, it looks like a, like, it wasn't a parrot, but it was, like, a parakeet type thing. I don't know. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. They literally, like, they're bonding with each other. They're, like, picking the birds they like more. They're bullying each other. But, like, they're recognizing the birds' owners. Like, it's, birds are really out here being smart as fuck. And that's why I'm, like, are the pigeons okay? Like, these pigeons are not getting what they need to be the best versions of themselves. My Aunt Pam. My Aunt Pam used to have a pet parakeet, and her name was Lovey. And she, she was, like, this is my favorite pet, like, I've literally ever had. Like, it was, like, the sweetest bird ever. And this is, like, really morbid, but one day I asked her, like, how, I mean, the bird was alive for, like, maybe, like, seven years. Maybe ten. I don't know. This was years ago. This, we're going back, like, 20 years ago. And one day I really wanted to know how she knew it died, and she said that it was literally standing on its head. It was standing on its perch, and it just. No. No, because it's not funny. And it's not funny. And it's not funny. I'm not making fun of the death of animals. Why is it giving Shrek when she starts singing really high and the bird pops? No, wait, now I want a bird. Butter would be, like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, Butter would have to murder the bird. That's, like, in their nature. This is how deep in our friendship I am. I woke up. I had a dream that me, you, Daphne, and Butter were hanging out. And then I looked, and Daphne was bleeding. And I was like, oh, my God. And I'm petting. I'm like, Daphne's bleeding. And you were like, are you sure? And I'm like, Butter, Butter scratched her. And I'm like, how did, talk to Butter. I said, Butter, she has an agent. She has a manager. She has a team. You're going to get sued. You can't act this way. I know she probably said something that pissed you off, but, like, you're going to get in trouble now. Her hind legs are actually insured. Like, Jayla's butt. I'm also on a crazy algorithm. Have you seen the JoJo Siwa cruise? No. Paige, I watched one video, and now I'm getting, everyone's TikToking from the JoJo Siwa cruise. Where is it? Like, where, what's the route? I don't know the route, but I do have to say, the reviews are incredible. Like, 10 out of 10, everyone's like, this is the greatest cruise of my life. Wait, that makes me so happy for her. I think it's because it's not like, I don't know. It's because it's not like, that many people. So, JoJo Siwa is literally, like, talking to everyone. Like, they're giving each other gifts. Like, it's like, this community. And these are not like, these are like, 30-year-old girls going on this cruise. And they just love JoJo Siwa. They're getting the best gift bags. Well, they grew up with her. Exactly. And they watch Dance Moms, yeah. And they talk about how, like, JoJo gets so much online hate. So, to see her doing what she loves is so beautiful. And you know what? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That makes me really happy for her. Yeah. My algorithm is, I keep getting two nuns. Oh, with the podcast? Yeah. Sister, what's your favorite hobby? Sister, I don't have a hobby. I was like, wait. Sister, I've seen you playing Ultimate Frisbee. And sister, you are good. I literally stopped and was like, this is me and Hannah in a different timeline. Wait, imagine if we were nuns. There's a difference between sisters and nuns. I didn't know that. What's the difference? One legitimately devotes their entire life to praying for you. Like, there are, and I think that's a nun. I'm going to make sure, though. Like, there are nuns somewhere right now in a church praying for, like, you. Like, they pray for everyone. Like, that is their job. There's factories of prayer where they're mass producing prayer. It's like the sheen of prayer. It's like a clickbait farm. Yeah. But it's like a click for prayer. I love how you're like, religion is my whole life. No idea between a nun and a sister. Yeah, I had no idea there was a difference. A nun lives cloistered, which is, like, focused on just prayer. And then a sister lives an active life. So, like, if you had a teacher, they're a sister, which I did not know that. But it sounds like it's a little rectangle square. A nun takes solemn vows. My sister takes simple vows, so like a solemn vow. sister have a boyfriend no neither of them can okay so like if you're a sister you have a you live a regular life you go have a job but if you're a nun you're all about prayer i would love some stats of like how many people their entire life are part of the sisterhood is that sisterhood of the traveling pants and they also have a traveling skirt that they send back and to each other no i wonder like if you become a sister or a nun i wonder how many of them do it for a certain amount of years and then are like see ya yeah like i wonder like what if i wanted to like be a sister for a year like page and how to try new things i think i actually i want to say that i graduated high school i'm gonna have to ask stephanie but i want to say that i graduated high school and a girl went to the nunhood yeah to the nunnery like went to be a nun and she was like i'm gonna be a nun and she was like i'm gonna be a nun and she was gonna be a nun and she was like i'm gonna be a nun and she was like i'm gonna be a nun and she went to be a nun and she was like i'm gonna be a nun and she was like i'm gonna be a nun and she here's the thing i do think that you get to a certain amount of years with a friend that like you just can't do it anymore like well no no wait you both have to bow out you know just like we're like we're at a point where like for us to not be friends again we would have to do something to the other one diabolical that's so fucking crazy that it would be a someone would be like trying to self-sabotage something yes like in a but i would argue because we're so close that it would be as there would be a sit down and we'd be like we'd catch it are you okay yeah what's going on yeah also we can just it is really a relationship where it's two people it's like if we didn't want to make this work we could have ended it immediately totally like we choose each other wait i was at a wedding you you heard the vows you thought of me there was a moment where i she was like someone was saying something and i was like and in my head i thought that's true of friendship also you raise your hand you're like sorry um real quick no because it actually is very true of friendship you have to actively choose that person every day and be like that is my friend and i'm going to treat her like my friend period and it's almost like mormon wives where i like to watch to see like who starts hating people like who's the villain and i realized like the villain is who just everyone decides they're over because if you look at what actually was done like so many things were done by so many people but it's the thing that everyone decides being like that's a thing that we're not forgiving you for because no one wanted to like that person well everyone's done bad things before and everyone's been mean to someone everyone's made someone feel hurt like you're alive that's like what it is supposed to be experiencing life it's how you change or if someone says you hurt my feelings it's how you apologize and don't do it again like that is a whole part of life you're supposed to make mistakes so that you become a better fucking person in these shows like people will straight up apologize and people like i don't believe you but then someone else will apologize and they're like we know we love you and yeah that's why also in like a reunion when the girls are all yelling at each other i'm like but you did that to her too right you're yelling at her about it right right well reality tv has to be hypocritical because then they wouldn't have a show like everyone can't have the same stance and storyline every year you have to switch it up or else it would be boring so a lot of the things people get in trouble for they they've done the accuser has done it just rotates it literally rotates um there is a crazy documentary out on hbo right now called paradise p-e-a-r and it's this guy who during covid sorry anytime someone brings up pears i think of rick ross and i just sorry there's just a video of rick ross i'm not kidding this is like 15 years old and he just says shout out to all the pears like like an actual pear like he's like i love pears and anytime someone talks about pears i just think like all the pears are so underrated like i love a pear you know i'm not someone to grab a pear from a fruit basket and bite arguably the best bite is the fat part of a pear like i probably haven't bit into a pear in 15 years this is an old pear that i left on my podcast desk from two days ago wow are you eating a lot of fruit during the day no i went i'm like at home for like a week so i tried to go grocery shopping and i bought like tons of fruit and i yeah got home when i ate a pear and that was about it and i don't i never buy pears interesting okay keep going with what you're saying so this guy during covid he's like this nerd from berlin and he goes to america and he decided he want to get rich so he invents this thing you know this is so bougie but you know i guess convertibles you can't put your convertible up while you're moving yeah so he invented something to help whatever he's got this rich people can't can't stop in motion yeah so he buys this mansion in vegas and he starts telling people i love plus-size women okay and i created this thing called paradise p-e-a-r he thought he was like so slick for it and he's like i want to create a community where women can be themselves and i want to be your friend come live with me and he's he's has this obsession with women who are like over six feet and over six feet and he's like i want to be your friend come live with me over 500 pounds like that's his like type so these girls who have felt over 500 pounds are there that many people that he's finding that are over 500 pounds well with the tiktok algorithm it's like these girls who have felt like outsiders and low self-esteem are like this guy is creating community where i'm the norm so you walk in and all the girls have the same body type and i mean they're all so funny they're all gorgeous i'm like funny you found like the most beautiful women and over time people are like he's a creep um and then there's this concept called feederism are you aware of feederism no okay i actually wasn't that familiar but it's actually like really dangerous but it's like a kink where men like to watch i don't know if it's just men and women but people like to watch people eat and have their body change so like they get turned on by women eating and their stomach getting bigger to the point they want the person to eat so much that they like can't walk wait this wait this feels really illegal this feels like a weird type of abuse but these girls can go on these sites and make money where men will watch them eat and like get bigger but then girls can die from feederism because they're like need money but then they're eating so much that their body shuts down oh yeah so anyway that's on hbo it's crazy it's crazy anyway if you're trying to take the edge off tonight maybe throw that on um okay we really today was weird i feel weird you feel weird but that's a good way it was really weird wait the last thing and then we'll leave it on that tyra banks suing netflix did you see that i feel like she should do her own documentary right instead of fighting with netflix because that has to be expensive i'm just interested to follow the story she's suing them for defamation it's annoying because she was in it so that's why she probably feels like she can't just do her own but i would argue like yeah do your own we'll watch let's let's hear your side all i do is watch tv so yeah send it to me her argument was like jay manuel was saying like i'm not going to like i didn't visit him in the hospital and she was like i lived in australia well kelly katron was on a podcast recently and i saw a bunch of clips on tiktok and she was like are you kidding you're gonna make a documentary about how tyra was awful she gave you relevance jobs full careers and you're gonna sit and make a documentary about how she didn't like i mean she was really team tyra and really against jay manuel i i do think too it's easy to be like tyra's the worst and everyone else were like innocent angels that were just like along for the ride and it's like that's not that's never the case lastly i just want you guys know you apparently you could reorder your grid on instagram have you seen this no is that true though i have it on mind that like but i don't love it because it's like too many options like i feel like you are gonna be like obsessed with it like changing your grid every five minutes can we hang up and can you like facetime me how you're doing this because i need to know that immediately no like you've created a monster so you're gonna like no like you're never gonna be available again sorry i have to go i have to go reorganize my grid sorry i'm working on my grid right now someone dm me and was like your grid's really good right now and i was like period period we love you guys so much thanks for giggling and have an amazing week bye

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts reflect on their personal therapy journey, realizing that in their 20s they dismissed emotional needs as trivial, only seeking help when overwhelmed by stress or financial pressure.
  2. A recurring theme is the power of community—the "gigglers" provide emotional support and serve as a form of therapy, reinforcing the value of authentic, shared connection over professional validation.
  3. The conversation explores cultural observations, including fashion (socks and sandals), religion (Mormon wives), and social behaviors, using humor to examine deeper societal norms.
  4. The hosts express admiration for the resilience and normalcy portrayed in real-life situations, such as pregnancy and relationships, which they see as more authentic than idealized portrayals in media.
  5. Personal anecdotes, like the wedding vow moment and the experience of ear ringing followed by motivation, highlight how negative experiences can unexpectedly fuel positivity and creativity.
  6. The discussion includes a critique of reality TV, noting how it often dramatizes conflict and highlights performative behavior, especially in long-term relationships and parenting.
  7. The hosts share personal spiritual reflections, including prayer habits, religious identity, and the idea that deep connections require daily active choice and commitment.
  8. Humor is used to explore serious topics like feederism and body image, emphasizing the need for awareness and compassion in communities built on vulnerability.

Summary:

The podcast features a vibrant, conversational exploration of personal growth, community, and culture. Hosts reflect on their journey with therapy, acknowledging that in their 20s they dismissed emotional needs, only seeking help when overwhelmed by stress or cost. They emphasize how the "gigglers" community serves as a vital emotional support system, acting as therapy through shared laughter and authenticity.

The discussion delves into cultural observations—such as fashion choices, religion (especially Mormon wives), and reality TV—using humor to highlight societal norms and contradictions. Themes of resilience, like pregnancy and friendship, are celebrated as natural and empowering. Personal anecdotes, including a moment of spiritual insight after a wedding and the connection between negativity and motivation, underscore how experience fuels positivity.

The hosts critique reality TV for its dramatized conflicts and performative relationships, while also noting how real-life situations like pregnancy offer more honest portrayals of life. They explore personal spirituality, including prayer and religious identity, and stress that deep friendships require daily intentional effort. The conversation ends with a playful yet insightful reflection on body image, online culture, and the power of community, showing how humor and vulnerability can transform even the most complex topics into meaningful connection.

FAQs

Gary says therapy is therapy for the Gigglers because they support each other emotionally, share deep personal thoughts, and use it as a space to process stress, shame, and self-worth, especially during busy or overwhelming times.

Gary initially avoided therapy in his 20s because he felt his problems weren’t serious enough to warrant a session. In his early 30s, he realized that even small thoughts like shame or guilt about appearance or self-worth were significant and needed professional attention.

Gary believes that by facing negativity—like criticism or bad comments—on social media, he transforms it into motivation and positive energy, which fuels his creativity and helps him stay focused and productive, especially on Mondays.

The socks and sandals outfit becomes a humorous point of discussion because it's a shared, casual style choice that the Gigglers feel is relatable and symbolic of their merging identities and lifestyle, even though it's not officially resolved.

Gary suggests a 'Pilates sock' with grip buttons on the bottom to improve stability and prevent slipping when walking in heels, noting that many shoes lack this feature and that it would make walking safer and easier.

Gary says the Gigglers are therapy because they provide unconditional support, emotional validation, and a sense of belonging that he doesn’t get from outside sources or traditional therapy, making their community a vital mental health resource.

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