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Giggling about pranks, perfectionism, and dance anxiety

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Giggling about pranks, perfectionism, and dance anxiety

The host reflects on a rich tapestry of personal experiences, from her formative years in tennis and fashion to her evolving identity and relationships. She shares heartfelt anecdotes about her deep connection with Maria Sharapova, a mentor who shaped her early life and career, and celebrates the authenticity of female friendships, especially in sports. The conversation explores themes of body image, gender dynamics in athletics, and the cultural expectations around women’s roles in social settings. She humorously recounts her anxiety around dancing at weddings and her preference for quiet, meaningful interactions over performance. The host also highlights the joy and camaraderie found in genuine female bonds, like those with Chelsea Handler, and reflects on how her journey—from tennis to comedy and motherhood—has fostered confidence and self-acceptance. She expresses admiration for women who support each other unconditionally, especially in male-dominated spaces. Through playful storytelling and personal vulnerability, the host underscores the importance of authenticity, emotional safety, and self-respect in building a fulfilling life. The narrative concludes with a celebration of personal growth, resilience, and the enduring power of true female connection.

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[music] Sub-gigleers? Very picture Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. [laughter] I'm in the day just got away from me. What's up? My galloping gigglers. That's a good one. We've been really horse themed recently. I'm not sure why. You created a lot of backlash because everyone was like, "We have a horse team in Texas. It's called the Mavericks. You don't bitch." You can't just say that to me. You've created a lot of backlash. That will put me into a literal spiral. [laughter] That's the kind of backlash I love to have. Like, oh my god. I want to let Paige start the podcast. I'm trying to put together the perfect text message. That's a name drop. It's a Maria Sherpova. And obviously, everything. It's either way too lovey-dovey or like, not giving it the justice it deserves. How old is she? Is she average? This is the thing. She raised me. But she's only like three years older than me. She won Wimbledon in 17. Is she the youngest woman to win? There were younger, like, 15, 16 year olds. There was a time where girls were winning. Like, pretty young. But she came in and beat Serena Williams. In the final Wimbledon at 17 years old. And everyone's like, a star is born. It was Lady Gaga. How old was Serena Williams at the time? I think in her 20s, but like, it was her prom. So everyone was like, oh, Serena has got this girl. No, yeah, I'm like, so I'm so processing yesterday. But let's, before we get into it. I'm just trying to think like, wait, what's the greatest thing I ever did at 17? And I think it was, like, that was the year that everyone was like, Paige can do hair. Well, like, you could do other people's hair? Yeah, but I really couldn't. But for whatever reason, I was on the prom circuit. Oh, so you just had good PR. You weren't actually, it was all smoke and mirrors. You got lucky once and then you like ran like wildfire. I had phenomenal PR in high school. If I could bring back my PR from high school into, I was mysterious. No one really knew. Does she drink? We don't know. Does she have a boyfriend? She's very candid. What was the hair, your go-to hairstyle? Like, when a girl came up to you, it was like, I need my hair done. You were like, this is the Paige look. Okay, I'm not kidding. I straight up was a consultant in my senior year of high school. Girls would come to my locker and be like, this is the dress. What are the shoes, accessories, and the hair? And I'd be like, you're smoking a cigarette. You're like, okay. Pull to the side cascading. Are you following me? I'm like, not a necklace that will be detrimental to your well-being. It's an earring. It's a larger earring. It's a bracelet and a shoe. We don't see the shoe. It's a clear loose. Like, I would go off. I think you need a consult with my sister, Majini, because Lois, she's taking it next level. She refused to wear her soccer jersey because she said it was too big and ugly. Well, Ben, they're done that. I quit, I quit T-Ball. Okay. I said, Mom, what the hell is this? I said, no, I'm not going. Lois is me. I am Lois. Well, you want to know what is funny. I got tagged. I kept getting tagged in this Instagram, like, real. So, like, finally, I'm watching it. And it's this mom being like, my daughter is going to her first day of kindergarten. And I'm freaking out because she picked out an outfit. And I'm scared that the teachers are going to be like, you're a bad mom, basically. So, I'm like, watching this video, watching this. I'm like, waiting for the outfit. I'm like, it's going to be something crazy, like a bathing suit and all this stuff. I see the outfit. I go, honey, you should take notes from your daughter. That is the perfect first day outfit I've ever seen. It's called editorial. I go, it's giving classy, it's giving professional, but it's giving whimsy, it's giving I can move. Like, I'm like, I think your daughter's worried about you, babe. I think she's worried how you're going to show up to bring her on her first day. Now, when I was a child, I didn't have that angst because my mom, like, she would walk in as like a chaperone for like a field trip. And I would be like, you other bitches could never. I would literally look at other girls and be like, do you see your mom? Look at my mom. If we're not the same here, she's wearing high heels to the apple orchard. We aren't the same. We aren't the same. I'll never forget that bitch's apple orchard outfit. I couldn't believe she showed up and it was perfect. I can't believe her friends because I literally like two years ago, I started being like, oh, I should put an outfit together. It's been my whole life. I quit cheerleading my senior year because I wanted to put outfits together for the Friday night football games. I literally go, I can't be a cheerleader anymore. I have to be creative. No, you've missed very important Zoom meetings because you're planning your outfits for the week. If it wasn't on my schedule, I can't just jump to it. Oh my god, wait, so when did you fly to Venice? Okay, what day is it? It's Monday. Because I know you had to leave yesterday, but like it all gets confusing. You know, we get thrown when Paige was overseas. I flew France Sunday night. My flight was at 9 p.m. I flew 9 p.m. landed here Monday morning. But really, it was like 11 a.m. here, but it was like 5 a.m. your time. I couldn't sleep on the flight at all, and that is so not me. So when I was landing, I started like having a panic attack that I didn't have like sleep deprivation. And I'm going to like pass out and I'm like, it's going to be so hot. And then like I have to take a boat transfer. And like, what if I get nauseous? Honestly, I'm so dramatic. No, but everyone talks about I'm going to Europe. I'm going to Europe. And I'm like, it's stressful. No, my body really does need to acclimate. Here's the thing about Venice, and I've only been here for a couple hours and most of it in my room because I fell asleep. They're not kidding that you take a boat everywhere. I thought it was a bit. I thought it was a full, I thought it was like optional boat. And then like you could like you can walk around. I thought the gauntlet was like time square. Like you can see Elmo if you want to. I thought it was optional. Okay, no cars. There's no cars. Wait, did you have a paddle? You just get this little cigarette boat. There's literally spot, it looks like bus stops. But it's for boats. It's the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life. I've never been here before. I feel like I'm in a movie. It's quite literally the prettiest place I've ever been. Obviously I've been to Capriabunch. This is a different type of beauty. Capri feels very vacation. It's like Italy. Yeah, this is like, oh my god, my ancestors. I was going to say now you're with your people. I do love that you go to the same vacation every year because it's like no drama. You know, it's going on. But I'm like, let's see some culture. Let's see some things. My dad would be dying. He'd be like, but Capri's right over there. Why didn't we just go? Also, this hotel room. The wooden clanks on the. Like it's already the aesthetic. I'm vibing with it. Wait, I want to like give you. I want to like give you a toy. The audio people love this. The bathrooms in there. And then like back there is like the toilet. I'm going to be honest the way they set it up. The Feng Shui. Not the smartest. Italians don't do Feng Shui. No, Italians don't do that. The bathroom is bigger than like the bedroom part. Which I'm like, honestly fine. You could have used that the last of how we vacation. Yeah, I could have used this massive tub. There's two tubs in there. Venice is a very, it feels very honey mounish. Ooh. The only thing is it's you're not swimming in that water. Like I was like, oh, do people jump in this? And they were like, no, that's disgusting. You don't swim in the Venice water. So I feel like it's not like I don't consider it to be a vacation. If I'm not putting my bathing suit on and getting going in water. Mmm. Anytime people are like, oh, I'm going on a ski vacation. I'm like, you're going on a ski work trip. That's a work trip. Though the shit you got a pack and put on that's work. Talk about accessories. Don't get me started. We did not. We haven't skied because does Torres ACL because I create for it. And here we are. You want to know what we probably never will again. Because now we're with two men that have zero interest in it. They both have new problems. Yeah, if we want to go on a ski vacation, it would have to be just two of us. I think it would be like we book a show in Aspen and end up being there for like three days. And we shop one of the days and one of the days we like drink our chocolate. Done. Glad we wrapped that up. Glad we figured that out. I can't believe you're fucking Italy right now. I'm so lazy. I'm like, I can't believe it. But I was galavanting all weekend. Where? I feel like I saw that. I didn't check your location, but I saw your Instagram story and you were glam. And you were here. And you were there. No, I was, you guys. This is my my color. The US Open. You know that. And this was my weekend. I did a Lou lemon party. And then after the party, I went to another party. Who does that? You know what's crazy about friends? You're my, you're this is a pyramid, right? It's definitely. Oh. And at the top. Did you ever watch a dance mom? Actually, you know, I've never watched an episode of dance moms. Wow. That was really bratty. You gotta add some of the best reality TV. You gotta. Um, you're at the top of the pyramid. You trickle down. about you, everyone talks about you. When everyone asks anything, they have to consider you involved. Anything anyone tells me, we'll be told to you. Anyway. - To some people, I'm an imaginary friend. They've never seen me. They've just heard about me. - Would you feel your presence always next to me? - Yeah, it's like a ghost. Some of these people just talk to you when they're with me. They're like, "Can you tell Paige?" And I'm like, or they'll just ask me about you. And I'm just like-- - You're a vessel to me. - I'm a literal vessel. I'm spiritual vessel. But then I have these like, I have like comedy friends who like have saved my life. Like comedy friends, when I'm with them, you know, when you just feel like, oh, these are my people. Like, they make fun of everything. - Can I give you a compliment? - Yeah. - You pick great friends. How many bad people have I introduced you to? - Some of the worst people you've ever met, I've introduced you. You have, you always find genuine, nice women. - Do you know my mom early on, I remember middle school, I was like complaining about something. And she was like, what if you hung out people who like do? - Okay. - And I was like, that's heavy. I'm seven years old. That was heavy. - That's heavy for the fifth grade. Yeah, that's heavy. - I'm like, well, they just don't like me 'cause they don't know me yet. And they haven't seen the sides of me. - Thank you, that's such a nice thing to say. I do think I'm definitely quality over quantity. And also, I am better one on one. I'm not that great in the group setting. - Yeah, I just feel like any one you've introduced me to, I've genuinely been like, whether or not like I've kept a friendship with them or not, I've genuinely been like, that's a really good person. A great example is Haley. Haley's a perfect example of someone where I'm just like, that's probably one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. - That's a little angel. It's just, the friends you keep around you, like their energy. I don't know if this is right, we're able to like, bleed's onto you. And like, I cannot have like dirty, fake, weird vibes. - Yeah. - Close me at all. It's like, I'm just like, I'm just like really sensitive and I'm sensitive. - Yeah. We're like, I'm like, you can handle more than me 'cause you could disassociate. - I think she's a sociopath, let's find out. - And like, do you think she'll skin me and wear me and then date my boyfriend? Let's see. - The thing I was over a year, just to get to the bottom of it. I love a fun, crazy girlfriend to live my curiosity through, but a lot of them, I don't care what they do. I like when their heart, their heart is there, totally. - And then I met the comedy friends and I was like, oh, these are my people, like this is, they are joking about everything. They're able to be self aware and laugh at themselves. I'm like, I love this. But then I forget, I have so many friendships from the tennis world that I just haven't rekindled 'cause I haven't seen an absolute lemon party. There was this other party called the racquet mag party. - Yes. - The T-Vogue party. - Party. - And I was with Iyan, who is Frances Diapo's girlfriend who played tennis for UCLA. Madison Appell, shout out, who was number one for Indiana. I'm just with the most bad-ass tennis girls ever. And I'm like, it's so funny how you have different identities. And in that moment, I was like, tennis hina again. I was like, we're just, we're just, we're just athletes. Some former division athletes who have, make it their whole personality. - I feel like society kind of teaches you, you have one friend group and that's your friend group. And if you don't stay friends with them for the rest of your life, you're kind of a bad person. Because they've known you. When in reality, I think it's so much nicer to have different friends. Also, in your 30s, it's so different having friends in your 20s. It's like, complete different life. - But it's also funny how many people from the beginning, like come back around 'cause they were that girl. Like the people who are meant to stick around will, you don't have to force friendships with people from when you were little. - Right. - What's crazy with tennis, though, is like, we weren't friends. We actually fucking hated each other. - Right. - Like, imagine you, it's similar to you with all the other models that you'd see in your child modeling, how you were like. - I'm trying to put it in your perspective. - I was gonna say like, when I see people from other reality shows that I have nothing to do with, I feel like we already have a connection 'cause we both did a reality show. - Yes, but back then, I would see all these girls' names on the draw, and it was just like, they were standing between me and like my dreams. - Right, oh, okay. - I literally had to fight them for a spot. - Yeah. - The girl that beat me out for the Barbie commercial who then got her own show on Nickelodeon. - Yeah. - Yeah, I think I got like a ton of Victoria justices in the room. And there were some that I got along with really well, but it was still like, look down upon to like, be good friends with girls. It was almost like you were weak, like you weren't tough and you weren't scary. - Yeah, you had to walk in and everyone need to be scared of you. And you know that's not my vibe. - So if you were at a tournament, and it was like, would you go into like a girls locker room? - You would love the vibe of a tournament. Everyone has their own outfit, like you get to wear whatever you want, and you walk in and you're with like your dad or your coach, and you just wait around for your name to be called, and then you and the girl don't say word to each other, get the balls and go on the court and battle it out. - So where are you prior to the court waiting? - You're just like in a tennis club. So like you're all just like not talking to each other in the tennis club waiting. And like you're warming up sometimes you intimidate people by like doing some crazy warm up. - Was there ever like fights in terms of outfits or like she always wears her hair? - Well, there would be like, every now and then a girl would like get sponsored by Nike. So like the girls that got sponsored by Nike or Adidas, like one day they'd walk in like wearing the outfit that like my shirt povert just wore it to you. It's open and you were like, oh, she's that girl. - Oh, okay, she got attention from brands. - Yeah, wow, okay, okay. So like she was wearing all the best stuff where sometimes you know me, I'd be showing off to his tournaments wild, with a Sophie short and like a ripped shirt. - Are there any rules on things you can't wear? - I don't believe so. - Like can you not wear a baggy tee shirt? There's some rules like in tournaments where like you can't wear logos that are too big and Wimbledon you have to wear a white, but like Wimbledon you have to wear all white. - You knew that. - I didn't. - You knew that. - Maybe I knew that and it was deep in my brain, but I love that. - I think that's why you first fell in love with the sport and you forgot how you first fell in love with it. - Well, no, I think I first fell in love that I realized it was all grass. Like it was all greenery. - One thing about me, I love a plant. I love oxygen. - I go, it's giving wedding aesthetic. I love it. - It's giving the background of a brunch wedding. - Has anyone ever gotten married at Wimbledon? - That's a really good question. It's also very, you like it 'cause it's like impossible to become a member of the Wimbledon tennis club. Like you have to win Wimbledon to be like invited or you have to be like your dad had to like invent London. - Tostor strutals. - You like the exclusivity of it. - Yeah. - So many long stories short. I welcome to Rack and Magparty. You know me, a second I walked to a party. I'm like we gotta get out of here. - Yeah. - But immediately I see some kid, Guy Gary, who I literally trained with in Brooklyn. And he's just like Hannah. I'm like Gary. And then I'm Gary. I see this guy, Cari, who played on the beacon boys' henna's team with me. Runs up to me, gives me a bear hug. And immediately I'm like a kid again. Just like a tennis player. Like I could cry talking about it. And I'm just seeing all these faces. And I'm seeing these girls who like I, they're tennis influencers now, who I follow. And I'm like I know you played for UCLA, like this girl Chanel. And I'm like I've always like looked up to you and she's like I saw your name of the draws too. Like it's so cool what you're up to. And I'm like do you know times was crazy, right? We just like had this like out of cult moment where I was like I know that we never talked to each other before, but like I love you. Like I'm so proud of you. Like I'm so proud of these girls. Once like you have children and then you like run into someone from high school in the grocery store, it's like that vibe. Yeah, where you're like, oh my God, where'd your life go? Congrats. No, I was so proud of everyone, but it was just so cool to feel community in like different places because there was a moment where I was just the get-goers. That's all I had. Yeah. That's all I was. And that's honestly that's all I actually want. That's all I need. I actually don't want any outside groups coming in. It's done. The next day I drove to DC and by drove, I mean, got driven. Aiden and Des drove me to DC for wedding. My first wedding of the summer. I didn't know you had a wedding this past weekend. I know. And then we drove back that night. Oh, I know. It was a lot, but a giga came up to me. She was like, hey, what are you doing here? It's actually is funny when you see gigglers out in the wild doing like the most mundane thing. No, she was like, what are you doing? This is random family wedding right now in Washington DC. That's nice, though, that Des doesn't drink so he could drive home. I do have to say shout out to Des and Aiden, you know, they did. What? Aiden put on Dolly Parton the whole ride. And he's like obsessed with Dolly Parton and just like saying Dolly Parton and talked about how amazing she is the whole time. Honestly, after 30 minutes, that pissed me off. Two out, two and a half hours of Dolly Parton. OK, I love Parton. OK, she says. Bye. - By the way, I sat in the back, they sat in the front. They were like, "Yeah, call right." I went full Uber driver. They tried talking to me. I was like, "Nah, thank you, no talking." - Just, you have to lay down on your headphones on. - Lay down, didn't say a word. They were like, "Are you okay?" And I was like, "I put no talking on the Uber app. Like, please leave me alone." - So yeah, the wedding was sponsored. You're a little dancing, speeches. But I just, you went to more weddings this summer than me. - I'm so sick of weddings. I really, there's literally, I don't wanna go to any weddings next year. I have one wedding. My girlfriend, Ariana, next summer in Greece. That is like the only wedding I wanna go to from now, to them. - I did. It was a church wedding too. And I haven't been in church in a minute. Long, long sermons. - Can I say something that's like a bit controversial and like people might look at me differently, but I'm just gonna like speak my truth. - You love a church wedding. - I do love a church wedding. I definitely will have a church wedding as someone who like travels with rosary beads. Yeah, obviously. I actually was packing my bag to go to the airport and I was like, Hannah would die laughing. I have like a rosary beads case with rosaries in them and like a little hankerchief that my grandma gave me that I think was her mom. - That's beautiful. - So I have that. Then I also have another rosary bead case that has this like little charm lock on it that my grandpa gave me and I travel with both those items. And I used to keep them in my car because I feel like wherever I go, they protect me. Anyway, that's like a not even. - That's a whole nother podcast. At weddings, I, and like I've been, obviously I've been to family weddings. I've been to like close friends weddings. I've been to like, I'm the plus one. I don't know anyone at this wedding. It does not matter what the wedding is. I don't feel comfortable dancing ever. I don't care who I'm with. I don't care who my date is. I don't care like how comfortable I am at the wedding. - I don't care you are. - It doesn't really ever cross my mind to get on the dance floor. - At my wedding at some point, there was like a crazy grind line where someone's feet were being held in the air and like there was, and you were, I remember seeing you just like, you were sitting, I think that's insane. - I have a traumatizing wedding dance story. It's not that traumatizing, but I just remember, I was like 17, and you know like, actually that's like the weirdest age to be at a wedding 'cause you're like so weird. - I just remember being like, I don't want to dance. Like I was like, do you want to dance? And you're like, oh, that was a good one. - With two. - With two. - And like, I tried to dance, I think, and then I like came down and sat down. And my mom was on the dance floor and I was sitting with my dad and my dad goes, look, come on, dances. He goes, you see how she moves her hips? That's how you need to learn how to dance. And I was like, what the fuck? - Yeah, maybe it's because I don't think, consider myself a dancer. Like I don't consider myself a good dancer that maybe that's my insecurity, but I don't, but then I look at people and I'm like, okay, well, I could dance as well as that person, so it's not that. I just think it's like, I don't know what it is in me that I'm just like, I don't wanna. - No one talks about dance anxiety. It's so fucking real. And I feel it the second I hit the dance floor. I'm like, everyone's staring at me right now. And then I'm like, oh, I didn't hit that. - Everyone's staring at me. - Didn't hit that, oh, I didn't hit that. And then like, bad bunny comes on and I'm like, oh, no, I don't, I don't know if I can. Yeah, I just like feel, I feel more comfortable being like at the bar and mingling. - Yeah. - Then I do going on the dance floor. - You guys know, Des loves dancing. - Does he? - He did dancing with the stars in Ireland. You guys should all Google it. It's a crazy era in his life. - So when you get to a wedding and you see like, okay, come on, let's get on the dance floor. - Yeah, so then I was talking to a good girl, obviously. And I'm looking at him, middle of the dance who are going crazy, starting to sweat, waving me over, I'm pretending I can't see him. And he keeps-- - I'm going to be me over. - I'm dying in that moment. - And I'm like in a deep conversation with the good girl. And I'm like, yeah. Mom is working right now. And then finally, I'm like, fine. As I go over, the crowd, like he's, everyone's like, yeah, come in. They start opening it. Next you know I'm in the middle of a circle. - No. - And I look at him in the eye, like my eyes were scared. I was like, I did not sign up to be the middle of the circle. I signed into like, beyond the side, dancing. Middle of the circle, so scary. 'Cause only move I have is the worm. Otherwise, like, what are you doing in the middle of the world? - And you can't bust out the worm at not a close friend's wedding. - This is Desi's friends wedding. This is not even my friends. - No. - Like my friends wedding. - No. - Anything I do, they're like, no, that was funny, Hannah. - This is what the fuck's going on, who let that girl dance for? - Even though you're his wife, essentially, as a plus one at a wedding, I feel like it's your duty to kind of like, I don't think you should stand out. - 100%. - I don't think you get in the middle of the floor and you're commanding the room. 'Cause at some point people are gonna go, who is this person? - 100%. And yeah, like, I don't need to be dancing, you know, with the mom and the grandma in the middle doing like, they were like Greek and we started doing like a Greek, I was teaching people, like, but look, if you have fun, you have fun. - Totally. - There's some people that you should hire for your weddings, like, that are just really good wedding guests. Like, they add to the vibe. It takes one person to make a wedding fun. - Hannah, I was thinking about that because I was like, I don't for my own future wedding, I don't want to kill the vibe of the dance floor. And I was like, what if I just hired actors that were like dancers that like got people to dance? - In the Hamptons, we met Maurice through Southampton Social. And he is the most fun, amazing guy ever, who I stayed in touch with. And for my wedding, obviously he was invited. When I tell you he made my wedding. - Yeah, like Maurice was the DJ, the host, the dancer, the greeter, like, he did everything. - Who was your DJ? I don't remember who did your music. - I got like a cool girl DJ and the music was good. Anyway, oh my God, it was so long ago. - The music was good, Hannah, it feels so long ago. - I was like, was that when weddings? Like, I don't even remember, you guys, I picked the first dress I picked out in a strip mall. Like, this was a different time. - That was like a fever dream. Like, I don't, that is great. You're married. - Wait, I got announced yesterday. They were like, and next is Hannah Burner, who resides in the Lori's side with her cat butter. And I was like, definitely have a husband. - Wait, I have a question. Does he ever said anything? Have you ever had a conversation about changing your last name? - We've talked about the concept of it, but he knew. I mean, we've talked about it. I was like, can our kids have my last name? - Oh, would you? - Okay. - Okay, you take a one step further. - Okay. - As someone who has thought about changing my last name, my whole life, literally even when I was like 10 years old, I'd be like, and isn't it crazy? I won't always be page to Sorbo. - You're so different. I literally was like, my name is Burner. It'll always be Burner. And I was gonna take that for me. - I'd be like, what do you think my last name will be? Let me be. And my mom would be like, I don't know, but right now it's to Sorbo. Now at 33. - Honey, I'm page to Sorbo. - I am no one else. - I am page to Sorbo, and those kids can have his last name fine. I don't really even know those kids yet. - So I am fine with that. But my name, I don't wanna change it anymore, which I never thought, never, even if you asked me like five years ago, are you gonna change your last name and be like, well, yeah. - It's so crazy. 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She was supposed to be here with me, but I ended up watching the Novak joke of itch match and he like puped the whole time. Wait, I saw that on my Instagram, yeah, I was we're sitting there watching the headline was like his body betrayed him. I was like, Oh, okay, but when I do it, it's like maybe you're we. No, I like he walked to the side and I'm like, I can see him from there and I'm like, he just puped and does is like, there's no way he just puped. I'm like, I saw a water come out in this mouth. Wow. I wonder what was going on dehydration, who knows, but it was like just watching a man. He was anxious. It was like he was going to fake like the whole thing. So, but it was beautiful. It was very fun. And he lost in five sets, no in five sets, it was a five hour match. We didn't even get to see Venus Williams. We had to leave because it was past does his bedtime. Oh, my God, what time did they go on? Like at midnight. Also, Venus is like in her 40s. They made a granite. Wait, wait, wait, wait, yeah. And then played for how long? Probably two hours. No. No, tennis is, the sport is insane. Like, why wouldn't they just be like, okay, back tomorrow morning? Because there's a whole schedule and it affects the whole draw. But Venus definitely was like, are you fucking kidding? Yeah, I feel like that's a go crazy disadvantage. Well, but no other sport. I mean, golf takes forever, yeah, but like it's not the same kind of physical stuff. Tennis, you could, you could play a five hour match, just you running for five hours. Thank you so much for bringing that up because I saw like this, this golf thing the other day, they were interviewing someone and it was like a golfer that I'd like recognize. But I saw an interview with him and I was like, oh my God, he got so old. Like, I guess I haven't seen him in like years, whatever. I don't even know what his name is irrelevant. But then they were showing like other golfers that are like top golfers right now. And I'm like, I'm like, wait a minute. I look in the mirror every single day and I look at my body and I think, how could you be better? And that's the plate that women have to bear. That's the burden that we live with. And I'm looking at these men and I'm like, never once you thought, hmm, I'm a professional athlete. Maybe I'll lay off the Oreos this week. I mean, a shocking Hannah, it's actually shocking. Is there another sport where you don't have to be physically fit at all? I mean, at all, these men, oh my God, how many beers you put down last night. That is a crazy gut. If I've ever seen one, you're only 35. What is your excuse? I'm going to have an argument. If you have to wear a belt when you play, it's not a real sport. And I'm going to concur with that as someone who's never played a sport but has worn a belt, I concur. And I love golf, but it's more of a sport skill than like a full sport. I just feel like if there's a chance, not saying I would win, but if there's a chance, I could beat you in a race. I don't take that you're a professional athlete. That's crazy. That's crazy. You're very fast. Okay. As the fastest girl on the fourth grade, I understand that, but I just thought I was just looking at them and I was like, oh my God, it must be so nice to be a professional male golfer because you don't have any body dysmorphia at all and you don't have like a body standard. You also get to just like fuck off your family for seven hours because you're fuck off doing a job and playing with your boys and then traveling the world and like never calling your kids. It's kind of crazy. But anyway, I recorded a podcast with Maria Sharpell yesterday and I'm still processing. I saw that on your Instagram. So it was a live recording of a pod. Yeah. So your outfit was? Oh my God. Thank you. It was a Zimmerman set that I found online. You looked like a professional tennis player who was coming to give a talk. So I'm such a nerd that I was like, I know Maria Sharpell was fashion style, like even in this era of her life, like I know what she likes to wear. And I was like, she would wear this and I walked in and she complimented my outfit. I was like, honestly, I was trying to channel you and she immediately starts joking. She's like, I mean, I would have tucked in the shirt. And immediately, I'm like, I fucking love her. This isn't Maria Sharpell by the way. This is one of the greatest tennis players to ever play the game who raised me, even though she's like three years old than me. If someone ever said that to me, I would have started crying. No, no. We immediately start busting each other's balls because when you meet really famous people, there are all kind of energies that you get. Totally. And you leave the room sometimes being like, well, like I didn't even make eye contact with that. That was weird. That was scary. Like they really did not want to make eye contact with me and then you think it's your fault. Like, I think I threw up after I interviewed Martha Stewart. I was like, that was the scariest thing I've ever done in my fucking life. And by the way, Maria Sharpell is known to be like intimidating on the court. That's her whole thing. Like she never smiles. She's, she's got the Slavic energy. She's, she's serious. Yeah. Strongest mental, she's incredible. And I immediately were like joking and laughing. And then I didn't realize it was her first ever live show, her first ever live podcast. Oh, wow. This is so Maria Sharpell but wasn't nervous at all. Like just like didn't even mention to me or just standing there. Do you think there's any tennis players that take beta blockers? I don't know if you could do it like during a physical activity like tennis. I don't know if it affects like the oxygen to your brain. Interesting. Because I've thought about it. But I think they're on like SSRI's for sure. I need to know what the professional athletes are doing when they get anxious. Also Maria Sharpell, so savage. The podcast begins, she's interviewing me, which by the way is the weirdest thing ever. And she goes, this is a quote from you. I'm now in stand-up comedy but my dream was to win Wimbledon. I go, okay, right to the heart. And I just look at her and I go, yeah, what was it like to win Wimbledon and she goes, felt pretty fucking good and we're just like literally making fun of each other. That's so year type of friend. I knew I was going to be enamored by her. I didn't know I was going to fucking vibe with her. Like the chemistry was just so fucking fun. Like I just wanted her not be annoyed by me. And then it got into I was like, she felt like I was with a sister. I don't mean to like make you jealous. No, it's okay because that's how we felt about Morgan Stewart. About Martha Stewart. No, Morgan Stewart. Oh, I just did Martha Stewart. Martha definitely didn't vibe with me. That's for sure. That's on camera. Martha was disgusted by you. But when I met Morgan, I was like so nervous and then I was like, wait, we're friends. I was like, we have the same personality. When someone makes you feel like you could be yourself, how like immediately you stop being a weirdo and yeah, I spent an hour with her and like just the fact she had, if you Google marks on Mars Maria, yeah, her fashion is next level. She also came on like she's blonde. She's like the six to Russian, but she like knew herself and every girl wanted to be Maria Sherpova growing up. Did she grow up in Russia or she grew up here? She was born in Russia and then at a very young age, her parents like put all their money into like imagine being like we're putting everything into this like six year old girl. And I was with her manager, her agent. He's been her agent since she was 11 years old. Oh my God. I was like, how did you know she was the one? He's like, I looked at the tense account when you knew you're like, she's going to do it. And like four years, five years later, she won Wimbledon. Wow. Good for her. But it's crazy. She's 39 and she's lived so much life. Yeah. Oh. Okay. So Chelsea Handler's always been friends with Marsha, and like I would see Chelsea Handler in her box watching her matches and I thought was like the coolest thing. I've talked about this, but like I just need to reiterate. And then Marsha, Bova on the pod. It comes out on Wednesday, pretty tough pod, but she tells the story that is so funny about Chelsea Handler, which is so, so so, so child, they Chelsea goes to the Olympics in London like 10 years ago with her. Now for Chelsea, obviously, this is the vacation. This is fun. We're drinking pims. Yeah. And she puts her in the player's box. Now in the player's box at the front is the coaches who were like coaching, right? Right. She says she looks at her player's box. Chelsea Handler's next to her coach, yapping, cracking jokes, making fun of him, drinking, probably on drugs, leaving coming back like just chaos and Marsha, Bova was like, what is she doing? But she or Bova wins the match and is like superstitious social. She's like, Hey, Chelsea, you have to do that for the next, but like the whole tournament, you have to sit there. So then Chelsea stays the whole tournament and the finals Sherpova loses to Serena. And she said, Chelsea came up to her afterwards and said, what the fuck was that? Oh my gosh. But anyway, shout out to girls, girls, because that is the kind of support I want to have for women. Yeah, shout out to women in sports and women supporting women in sports. And Chelsea Handler. And Chelsea Handler. And by the way, Chelsea, she is that girl, like she's that person who will support you even if she's drunk. And that's important. That's really important in our side. We're always in our right mind. Because I've had a lot of people who get drunk and don't support me. I've had the exact opposite happen in pretty much every relationship I've been in. But anyway, now I'm trying to put together a text back to Mersherpova. I don't know what to do, but like, I'll deal with that on my own time. I love that. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that dissertation. Yeah, I was really excited to tell everyone about it. What are you excited for the next couple of days? I'm very excited for the next couple of days. Josephine has me, has a schedule for me running. She wants to see this. She wants to go here. She wants to try this restaurant. We should get pictures over here. So I'm just like going to go by her schedule. I flew in a day early then I needed to be here because I really, my body so since I really needed to just like relax and unpack my clothes and make sure I had all my outfits ready. And like one thing Hannah, there's no showering my room because they want you to be and eat like tortellini. There's two tubs next to each other. Okay. Oh, they want you to hold hands with your romantic partner. So there's a bathroom over here, right? It's two tubs, two sinks. You think, sure, where's the toilet? You have to come out of the bathroom round a corner. There's another bathroom, just the toilet and a sink and no shower and no shower. I'm like, guys, you had so many opportunities. So many water lines are running through this place. We have a bath. We have a toilet. Why should we do with the third one? Another bath. I can't tell you the last time I bathed. I'm not a bather. I don't bathe. I'll do a hot tub, I'll live in a hot tub. You know, I try, I actually try and take a bath once a month. I think it's good. Coming, I come from a household where my mom took a bath every single Saturday. That's so came coated. She got the bath going. She did whatever her like lotions and potions were. She shaved. She must have been going out at little slut. She must have been going out every Saturday night now that I think about it when I was younger. And she would do this before going out. Yeah, she would like get ready all day on Saturday. She would get out of the tub and then she'd do her hair and then she'd do her makeup and I would just be like, what is she doing? But now I don't remember. Why is mom's putting on lotion like the most comforting memory? I think because that is the first woman you know. So like everything she does, yeah, everything she does is like low key soothing to you. You know Maria Sherpova, my, my, your mom, my mom, no, my literal sister Maria. She was pretty a lot of tennis players are perfectionists and she was saying that having a kid, she is one kid is the one thing that's helped her with her perfectionism because she's like, you cannot control what's going on. You can plan what you want. You can try to make everything go as planned and go right. But the kid is just going to be like, go fuck yourself. Do it. Yeah, do it every month. As a non mom, when you hear moms be like, it's horrible, but it's perfect and it's the worst. Yes, but it's the best. I think it's the challenges of it that actually help you grow. I'm trying to figure it out. Has a non mom, I think God, I don't have the bandwidth right now. Does anyone, I couldn't think of the worst thing to happen to me than have a baby today. Someone said they were like, whatever you're going through, just be like, at least I'm not pregnant. And then to all the key players that are pregnant listening to this, you're perfect. We love you. Yeah, I'll pour one out for you tonight. I never talked about, about in bed with Paige Disorbo this season. I had my first episode last week and I had Nikki Hilton on, which actually is a perfect example of meeting someone where you're like, what is their vibe going to be? And I, she was so down to earth and normal. It actually was like shocking to me. I feel like she's purposely been like, I don't want to be in the public eye as much. It's annoying me. She's like the, one of the most normal people ever, like, I forget they like asked her to do something. They're like, is it okay? Do you want someone else to do it? And she was like, no, Avi, like, I can do it. Like, it was just like, I forget what it even was, but she was just very down to earth. But this year, it's live. So it's like, the past two seasons, we've recorded it for like an hour and a half. So like, there were times where I could stop and we could reset and like, yeah, cut things out at things that, whatever, we're dead people's names. It's a very different vibe this year. And so like, we're live, but like, she knows the segments that we're doing and like, it's only for 30 minutes. So it's actually not that bad. So whatever we're chatting and we start talking about Daphne and she's like, oh my god, wait, I have a gift for you. And she just like says, like, can someone get my back? And in my head, I'm like, wait, we're live and the I know for fact, the Amazon team is like, what do we do? And I'm like, someone get her blue channel, so they get her bag and they bring it over and she's like opening it and she like hands me this gift and I open the gift. Hannah, she has a jewelry line. She made me a ring with Kitty's face on it. It's like my new favorite ring and I put it on and she goes, your fingers are so skinny. And I said, thank you so much for noticing. And she goes, no, no, really, I'm going to get you on the fit. What is your ring size? I've never even I go, well, it's a four, but she goes, what? Like people think I'm lying when I say that, but I'm so anyway, me and Nikki Hilton have friendship rings with our cats on them and tune into in bed with Paige to Sorbo. I my next guest in September, well, it's up in the air. We'll see what happens. How do you like interviewing live? So it's more pressure because I feel like there's more pressure on me to like think of something funny after because like it's boring. If you're just watching us talk about bed and you're not laughing. So I feel like I have to like add in jokes where when we tape it, sometimes I feel like I can think of a joke for longer. Where when it's live, it's like quick and I'm like, this is this episode going to be boring. So I'm it's a little bit nerve wracking, but I talk to myself for 30 minutes live all the time on Amazon. So I know I can be live for 30 minutes, but a lot of people are never have never live. Like when else would they be live? Yeah. How many times can I say live? Jesus. Take a shot every time. I feel also like sometimes with comedy, when you have a little pressure, you could be funnier because you don't have time to like overthink the joke. You just have to like get it the first time. After it was over, I was like great and I never have to think about this episode again because it's already out there. Like I don't have to be like, what are the teasers? What are we clipping? Like, it's done. I love that. I love that. So that was nice. Oh my god. We've had two like crazy weekends. I can't wait to see the Venice footage. And we're going to a fashion show together like a cool one next Friday. You guys were doing fashion week for a day together. Heck yeah. Friday we're going to the Vita-Hoff show. Vita-Hoff. Vita excited. I've been a fan. You wore them on Fowl and they're like, yeah, you know, I love it. One thing about me, I love of course it. And one thing about you, you love Bridgerton. And that's where we combined. That's where we combine. And that's our Venn diagram. Because I love a little snatch in the waist, but yeah, I'm excited for a day to be running around New York with you. I love the outfits that really accentuate the female body. I think that's like, I think that's where we love a corset. You love like-- Show your curves. Yeah. Showing a female body. We love it. Not a golf body. Not a male golf body. Oh, someone DM me and they said that all men's body standard is Mark Wahlberg. He said, wow, that actually is a good one. But he's also 5'7". And it gives them hope. And he's also inspirational. Wait, do you want to hear something funny about men's golf? Always. They're not allowed to wear shorts. They have to wear pants. Because they don't like their knees. Someone said my knees are kind of white and pale. Who was like, OK, we're going to play the sport. But I swear to God, if I didn't wear one wear shorts, I'm going to freak the fuck out. Golf has so many made up ridiculous loser rules. My brother said that golf stands for gentlemen only ladies forbidden. Is that true? No, but like, good, good. Definitely believes that. What does it say for that? He probably made that up, but like it's it's probably a coincidence and then like men ran with it But do you know I was I played tennis with my old man the other week and one of them was like You know, I belonged to this like fancy tennis club like you should check it out And he said what the club was and the other guy was like are women allowed in that club? I felt like I was in high school tennis again on the boys team where I was like Do I have to fucking beat every single one of you like when we do our women? Oh, that's still real like there are really these old school Hamptons clubs like I remember I told you my best friend Becca She's a lesbian and an incredible athlete and she's the first ever Member of her golf club that is a woman. It's normally the husband that brings the wife so they didn't know what to do with her I don't know why it just sounded like She's not a lesbian because she's incredible at being an athlete She's not an athlete because she's a lesbian, okay, the chicken or the egg She's very athletic and happens to also be a lesbian maybe a lesbian, but they're not correlated how dare you Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's crazy They didn't know how to like submit her application because they were like, but who's the man and she was like I'm the man I hate people. I really do. I'm just like you're stupid That's crazy on a lighter note. I just have to yeah thought you know, I like to just bring up a random thought every now and then and my thought was I Thought I was gonna have to keep an eye out More in my life for whoopee cushions Really when you're younger they really make it seem like they had a time to down to whoopee cushion I haven't seen one whoopee cushion in like a decade. We want to know what Ain't shit funny about a prank these days. No one's prank it No one's pranking anymore I think no one's pranking because shit is really shit. It's like it's not funny It's like we're in a haunted house. We don't have to like scare people already in the haunted house We don't have to do over time. I also think it was pre-phone like before we didn't have much on our phones We were pulling out a whoopee cushion when you got someone on a whoopee cushion like That was game over like I was at the end of the night We were like and that's our closer where they come from never once do I have a memory of buying a whoopee cushion They just always appeared at your house like you never got them. They were one was just there blowing it up Was disgusting. It tasted like a condom and everyone would like blow it up And I was like this is how COVID originated like started originating at least it could be The cause of your UTIs. I don't even know but everyone's swab-nobbing on it Like no one's getting punked these days because life is We got we got we live in it. We live in the show punked and that's just one of those We pranking was like the silliest cutest thing back then Pranking is so fun. All I did I feel like was like pranks like I remember one time my grandma was like But you can put saran wrap on the toilet and I was like fuck yeah I'm doing it or like putting a rubber band around like the sink So when you turn it on like the spick it thing like sprays at you like yeah, that's innocent fun I'm how she does a good. She hunts like an influencer and they were like my cortisol levels can't handle this right now I'm suing I Watched this girl make a video. I mean so many people have made tiktoks about it But I watch this girl make a video who like I follow and like I've never met her in real life But she truly with her whole chest called herself women like are called herself No needed to use women, but use the word woman like okay And there's a lot of woman and I and I I actually was like I can't ever like another one of your videos again because I do dumb shit That's crazy. I love how that's where you drew the line I thought no the videos of the men not being able to read. I'm like Also with pranks like we never fake to prank Our shit was real nowadays. It's like let's pretend that I'm surprising you my boyfriend at college Wait props. There's all these fake couple prank videos and I'm like at one point after the hundredth videos your husband like is this a prank? That you're recording Couples and pranks different I feel like Very different how so like if that's your whole thing I feel like I would start to like get annoyed, but it's fun for like some like randomly doing something or like I love like scaring people like I love hiding behind a door Have you ever scared your cat? You gotta do it. You gotta do it if you have a cat at home do yourself a Favor call them hide behind something and kitty dies like she literally gets so mad at me I've fallen on the ground laughing because I've scared her so good. She lit she's like a human She's like she jumps back and she looks like bitch. Are you kidding? Bring some whimsy to your day find a cat and scare it also. I'm stressed about Halloween's around the corner. I started to bring that up I know What is it? What difference is it made for us worth 34 years old when do we stop dressing up when they quit stopped I Also Halloween it like then it's like my birthday's right then anytime someone says Halloween I think of myself even though it's my mom's birthday on Halloween. I think of me. Oh my god You guys are such Scorpios. I'm like what an amazing birthday gift that must have been she was like just the best You dressing up and take your photos. No me being born. Oh Like it was her birthday and then four days later she had a baby and That is the story of the witch of page the sorpo how she was created the line the witch and the wardrobe That is me the line the witch and the wardrobe I gotta go okay, we're gonna we have to stop. We're gonna that's what we're gonna end this thing We love you guys so much. Thank you for getting with us and we'll talk to you later. Bye

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host reflects on a deep personal connection with Maria Sharapova, a tennis legend who raised her, highlighting admiration for her winning at 17 and her strong, serious tennis persona.
  2. She shares a nostalgic and humorous journey through her life, including early PR successes, high school fashion consulting, and the influence of tennis on her identity and friendships.
  3. The conversation explores themes of authenticity, friendship, and personal boundaries, emphasizing her preference for genuine, emotionally grounded relationships over superficial ones.
  4. A major theme is the contrast between men’s and women’s athletic experiences, with sharp commentary on body standards, male privilege in sports, and the lack of body autonomy in male-dominated environments.
  5. The host expresses deep appreciation for women in sports who support each other, citing Chelsea Handler’s playful, unfiltered presence as a model of female camaraderie.
  6. She shares personal anecdotes about her wedding experiences, dance anxiety, and a desire to maintain a low-key, non-dominant presence at celebrations.
  7. A key moment is her connection with Maria Sharapova during a live podcast, where the chemistry and mutual respect felt like sisterhood, reinforcing the value of authentic, unscripted female bonding.
  8. The host reflects on evolving personal identity, including her journey from tennis to fashion, comedy, and motherhood, showing how each phase has shaped her values and self-worth.

Summary:

The host reflects on a rich tapestry of personal experiences, from her formative years in tennis and fashion to her evolving identity and relationships. She shares heartfelt anecdotes about her deep connection with Maria Sharapova, a mentor who shaped her early life and career, and celebrates the authenticity of female friendships, especially in sports. The conversation explores themes of body image, gender dynamics in athletics, and the cultural expectations around women’s roles in social settings.

She humorously recounts her anxiety around dancing at weddings and her preference for quiet, meaningful interactions over performance. The host also highlights the joy and camaraderie found in genuine female bonds, like those with Chelsea Handler, and reflects on how her journey—from tennis to comedy and motherhood—has fostered confidence and self-acceptance. She expresses admiration for women who support each other unconditionally, especially in male-dominated spaces.

Through playful storytelling and personal vulnerability, the host underscores the importance of authenticity, emotional safety, and self-respect in building a fulfilling life. The narrative concludes with a celebration of personal growth, resilience, and the enduring power of true female connection.

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Maria Sharapova is highlighted as a former tennis champion who won Wimbledon at 17, defeating Serena Williams. She is described as a mentor figure who raised the speaker and is admired for her strength, seriousness, and tennis excellence.

The speaker felt nervous because meeting a famous and intimidating figure like Maria Sharapova, known for her serious on-court energy, made them feel vulnerable. They also felt like they might be making a mistake in their interactions.

The speaker attended the US Open and watched Novak Djokovic play a long match, noting he appeared anxious and even had a moment of physical discomfort, which they found amusing and memorable.

She finds weddings overwhelming and doesn’t feel comfortable dancing, often sitting instead and avoiding the dance floor due to what she describes as 'dance anxiety.'

She values fashion that accentuates the female body, loves corsets and outfits that show curves, and has a strong appreciation for style, especially in the context of tennis and events like fashion shows.

She criticizes the body standards in male sports, especially golf, where men are expected to maintain certain appearances, and contrasts this with the lack of such standards for women in sports.

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