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Giggling about perfectionism, parties, and padel

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Giggling about perfectionism, parties, and padel

The conversation blends humor, vulnerability, and deep reflection on friendship, creativity, and gender. The speaker and her friend navigate the highs and lows of collaboration, from editing a trailer with constant revisions to celebrating personal milestones like a wedding and a surprise bachelor party. Central to the discussion is the strength of their friendship, built on emotional awareness and mutual support—especially during stressful times. The dialogue explores feminist themes such as gendered communication, societal expectations, and the financial and emotional burdens placed on women in consumer culture. There’s a sharp critique of industries exploiting women’s choices—like high-priced swimwear or gendered product pricing—while also celebrating women who break boundaries, such as Shakira and Kylie Minogue. Personal anecdotes about daily routines, upbringing, and relationships reveal a nuanced understanding of gender roles and power dynamics. The tone remains light and playful, often punctuated by self-deprecating humor, but underlies a serious commitment to self-expression and authenticity. The conversation ultimately celebrates women’s voices, resilience, and the power of community, especially in creative and personal spaces.

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(upbeat music) - Sup, giggler? - Very, fix your Wi-Fi. - Man, if I said shit, we can't be manners. (laughing) - I'm in the day just got away from me. - What's up, my greasy gigglers? ♪ It's Friday, Friday ♪ ♪ Everyone's in the Friday ♪ - You know, I got dressed this morning. I was like, oh my God, so cute, like preppy. She's giving beach house. She's giving second home. And then I got on the Zoom and I'm like, I'm just dressed like Hannah. (laughing) - No, but when you do it, it's chic. I'm obsessed with it. You look like you're in boarding school and just gave your first hand job and you don't know what to do and you don't know if it went well or not. - I'm like, it's sticky and it kinda smells. - No one warns you. - No one tells you that it does in fact smell. That's something you learn on your own. - His dick, the calm, I would say. - Oh, I try not to get that close. I think the first time I was like, oh, guys. (laughing) - Gross, I would get into it but I'm pretty sure I have a 15 minute bit about how back in the day we used to like swallow on stuff on my upcoming special. - Anyway, we're gonna have to save that. Anyway, wait, I wanted to bring up your special because I wanted to make it about me for a minute. - Please, please, please. - How you know that you have a true real friendship with someone, no, seriously, listen to this. Like, it's so easy to be happy when your friend is happy. Like, oh my god, like, we're going out tonight or like something, whatever. But when your friend is stressed, no mind you, when you were filming the special I was getting a massage, but I knew, I knew how stressed you were for the trailer to come out that like, when it did get posted, I felt relief. I was like, thank you. And now she doesn't have to worry about that, you know? - Well, you also sent me the cutest, sweetest, funniest text. She goes, I realize I never texted you for your trailer and I had a pair of social relationship instead of congrats, which is basically, she commented on every photo I posted. She reposted everything. She was on a full PR campaign for me yesterday and then was like, hey, sorry, I didn't text you directly. Are you mad? - Well, I was like, I'm no better than someone on Reddit. Like, I literally made up that I have a friendship with this woman. - Every now and then, when you do something like really big, I turn into a fan and then I'm like, if I text her, she really puts it right now. - Is she doing it right now? Like is she on set now? - We had an airport moment where I was like, I'm going to show you this trailer and I just want to see your thoughts and that was like the test. Like, you didn't realize it, if you didn't have a decent reaction to it and I didn't need you like laughing hysterically, I just know when you like something. - Yeah. - And you had a great reaction and I was like, I don't go fuck, page liked it, we're good. And that's how you have to be with creativity. Like, if the people you care about love it as much as you do, you go for it. And also, we're just talking about the trailer right now but I'm just a real perfectionist. - You really are, it's actually exhausting. You think my hair cycling is exhausting? Listening to you like make art is so exhausting. - Well people on talk about it, I'm over at Go Moon, people never talk about it. Never brought up in any of these, you know, thought, thought things that people post. - It's not brought up because no one, I feel like I have a front row seat to you as a business woman. - It's not, it's not relaxing. - There's nobody I know other than Hannah that will start something and then halfway through be like, this is horrible. I can't believe you guys even let me get this far. I'm changing the whole thing. - When I fail, I feel fast and I love to move, I love change. I will pivot, I'm a pivoter, but also by the way, just so you guys get a glimpse behind the curtain. So Grace sends us all these clips from what happened on the pod. I'm paged literally as like, love, cute. Can you actually like change the background of that or like, can you not use my face in that one? - Well sometimes Grace picks the most diabolical screenshots of me and I'm like, Grace, act like you've met me before. - Grace thinks you're beautiful in every angle, that's why. And I will come in and be like, Grace, at 0.4 seconds, there's like two, and I'm like, we can't post this, this is not good enough. And then I'll be like, at 0.75 seconds, you have to cut that faster. And then like, do actually like a CGI moment over my head when I say this joke. Paige doesn't respond. Grace and I are in like eight hours of editing. - I'm like, Hannah's skin color is giving orange, and maybe we change the lighting. - But everybody else is kind of crazy. - You guys are crushing. - Can you make that Hannah look aesthetically pleasing for like a second? But that's the thing like, when I'm with an outfit, I'm like, I'm stressed about editing clips. I don't have time. - My favorite thing is like when we talk about merch and you say, Paige, what do you think? I'm like, sorry, it's my time. - Also, actually we don't know where Grace is. She's supposed to be on this virtual, we don't know where she is. - And Paige said, tell Grace to join at her own leisure. And I just wanna say shout out to you for like thinking of words. I talk for a living, but I actually don't do words. You talk for a living, you love a word. - Well, you know what? - Not like a full sentence, a word. - I, it's true. I could make one word my whole personality. I love a word that has an alternative, rich person way to say, said word. Like for yay. - Yes, like for yay. Like I love someone that would be like, oh my God, leisure. But then there's like a rich woman that says leisure. Like actual leisure. Like I like, I feel like I'm so many words. Like okay, actually this is so crazy. You know like the word mature. Sometime, one time I heard this woman pronounce it mature. And I, I literally remember where I was, how old I was, what I was doing when I heard that 'cause I was like, oh my God, she's not like other girls. - Well, not to talk about my husband 'cause that's annoying, but 'cause he grew up in Europe, he says some funky-ass words. And at first I'm like, you are so dumb. You said that word wrong. And then he's like, Google it. And I'm like, oh, it's the European way. You're actually better than me. Sorry. Sorry. - I actually do think that sometimes I can have, actually, sorry whenever I have a thought. - Period. Whenever I have a thought, brain explodes. (laughs) - I saw this girl, she made this TikTok and she was talking about how women, there's like a bunch of people that will do like- - She's talking about women. - That will do full studies on linguistics and the separation between men and women and things they say. And she was talking about how women say like a lot. - I mean, I've never, but some other women. - But like how women are like, oh my God, she does the same like and like, that we have a lot of filler words. And some girl commented the video and was like, I'm actually learning about this for like my thesis in linguistics or whatever and she said, from like all the studies people have done, women don't get to talk a lot. So we actually put filler words in because if there is a silence, typically the other person will immediately start talking. So we almost have to add in filler words to keep our place, to let the other person know we are not done speaking. And I was like, - Oh my God, we're just trying to take up space. - We're trying to take up space. - Why am I like a emotional like right now? - And the girl that made the like initial video was like, I would never hate on another woman for using filler words or like or having like a valley accent because it is most common women. And so why would I hate on another woman for being a woman? - I also love a woman who speaks slow like this. I'm like, take waste of man's time. Waste of man's time. And actually never get to the thought. Never fully get to the thought. Wow, now I think of everything differently. - What were we saying though before? - We literally just started the pod and we're already, we never had a direction I actually think. I mean, we're talking about the trailer. If you approve, a lot of the gigglers approve, but they have to wait for you to co-sign before they jump on board. - Well, it's funny because I had a lot of gigglers in my DMs seeing if they could figure out what exact second that I said, why your hair looks so good like that. - But you know what happened? You saw the wide trailer that's on YouTube. This was cut down so you actually couldn't see the full hair. So anyway, also, Lenore is visiting right now because- - So the place is spotless. - You know, like you clean before like a hookup comes over. That's nothing like the way I clean before my mother comes over. I do like to leave her some things 'cause she likes to have a hobby and she really likes to do the dishes. That's like her thing. So I let her have fun. But like, doesn't I or clean me? I've never cleaned before. We were so scared. - Wait, really? - Yeah, we woke up early. - Oh, that's serious. - We woke up early and I was like, come on, we gotta go and we were like, I mean, this is what more and more people do, like once a week. - Do you know that I don't think I've ever seen you clean? Like, like I don't think I've seen. - 'Cause I'm a feminist, 'cause I'm a feminist. - Wait, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen you take like a spray bottle and spray something. - And you're just like cleaning takes initiative. And when you grow up in Italian household, where the women are. take over. I'm never used to taking that initiative. You have to just even if you're at someone's house and I realize like you just have to start cleaning and everyone like respects it. But I see it as like invasive. I'm like I'm not gonna touch your table. Like I wouldn't walk into someone's home and open up their refrigerator. So why would I open up their cleaning supply closet? I do think too. There's something about dinner. I always hated how like when we were done eating all the women got up and took everyone's plates and you call me lazy but I was like no the men can take my plate. Why is the why are the women doing this? They already cooked it all. What happens at your family holidays now? Who's cleaning? Okay well my Nana Papa are perfect and adorable. My Nana cooks and she takes the plates but then Papa loves cleaning. Like Papa is handles all the dishes and that's how my mom and dad are too. I just never like when all the men are sitting down and the women are at work. I'm like what is this? Did you have chores as a child? Well this is also this is kind of the problem is that I had a full-time job. I was just playing tennis. So it actually inhibited my chores. We're like and there we go. And that's the problem. And we've just figured it out. Well yeah because I'm not good at it so I don't want to embarrass myself in front of other people by being like that's how you put the dishes in dishwasher. I actually tried to do the dishes and Dez was like never again. Like this is chaos. He's like I'm not that's not where we put it. I mean what do you think? How bad can you mess up loading a dishwasher? I guess some people like it more organized where I'm like if there's an opening it's like Tetris you just figure it out. Well cups are on the top plates are on the bottom. Yes however sometimes you don't have a cover plate you have like a weird shaped bowl and I try to just shove it. But look we all have our we all have our quirks we all have our things but I the truth is after school I go to tennis practice I get home at 8 p.m. I have to do my homework and I think my parents were like the girl has enough to it. She can't do it. She's tired. I plead paddle this morning. How is that? Well I want everyone to know it's different than pickleball I'm not like on the dark side. You don't have to like call the police. I'm not playing pickleball. Hannah actually texted me and said can we push the pod one hour because I'm playing paddle and I risk and you know me I don't know sports or anything but I've known I've heard her talk about it before and I said wait just trekking in because one time you did say don't ever let me play paddle or I will get arrested and she takes it back and goes nope that was pickleball and I said great yes yes also sorry I like can't take you seriously because you dress like me right now and I lost respect for you I'm like what is she talking about like you wait one day we should do a pod and all the you and you be me and we just talk the whole time like what we think about it would say I would just immediately start crying about my dead grandpa no I actually had a dream about him the other week and it's like why are you welcome my dreams I had a dream the other week and my mom told me like gossip in the dream like huge and I had and I woke up and I went to my Instagram because I was like is this how I get messages now like my mom sends them to me in a dream and I woke up and I had to like check my Instagram for something to see if it was like true and real but it wasn't but I sat in it for a little because I was like can be witch and yeah because I was like no I had a dream that my mom came and whispered something in my ear and so and right when I woke up I was like my mom just told me something and that's really scary but anyway I do I do feel like I want to play sports I want to be athletic I'm not done with my battle stories but I woke up to play at 9 a.m. yeah which is early for me and then it was so hot and I was so tired after it I was like I need to cancel all my plans like hold on wait just like to take it back for a minute what is the difference between paddle and pickle ball so paddles European which makes it cool guy like people in Spain and then South America play it it's cultured it's it's way more advanced than pickle ball got it pickle ball is like is with a freaking kids what is it what is with a wiffle ball would you say funny imagine someone being like wiffle balls now a sport like all these people are just like do you remember wiffle ball as a kid yeah I thought it was stupid yeah it's for the unathletic baseball players yeah so anyway but look if you're playing pickle I totally support you it's just as a tennis player we get like hate even in the community and like I could only handle so much within the industry and we can have within the industry I love getting how many industries can we get in trouble with my favorite is gossiping to page about sports drama and stand-up comedy drama because like you have no I was gonna say gun in the fight that's not the same I'm not skin in the game no skin in the game thank you you should hear me when I tell other people tennis gossip because I'm like and that's what I heard from my friend and they're like do you know any of these people I'm like no and that's what makes it so good like we'll be we're in tour we were like running out things to talk about and I would like see something on my Instagram of people you definitely didn't know and I go these people are getting divorced you want to know why and then to make her interested you have to start from the beginning like I'm like she was born in a small town and you were locked in oh god yeah you're locked in but anyway how are you I'm good are you I um oh crash about your hat I was gonna what's gonna say girls girl of the week first ever girls go love the week wait how did it end up on two more like what is going on wait the first of her girls girl of the week is hilarious you are I'm so proud of you you want it thank you so much I wasn't even campaign I'm a stickler with it you don't just get girls girl of the week well because Daphne launched bridal support so like if you're going out of that's right or is so funny yeah bridal help email bridal support at topneythelabel.com so you can like bulk order monogram things just take easier for if you're the maid of honor or whatever so we get a lot of emails and let me tell you something the gigglers are animated like they're giving you the plot they're giving you the full story they're giving you why they've chosen cloud over white stripe because it's just like not aesthetically pleasing and the background you mean you know like they they tell you cuz they also think you might be judging them they're like hey I know that yellow seems like a weird choice I swear it goes with like sunflowers that I just trust and they're like let me send you my Pinterest cuz I'd be like it to break it out more for you no so I do think sometimes they're like well what if she's reading this email which sometimes I am so that's how we found this girl we had a maid of honor email in and say like she's planning bachelorette and it was gonna be a New York City so I was like oh this is a perfect bachelorette to crash because I'm right here come to find out so we're like talking to the maid of honor we're like what if like page surprise the bride the maid of honor adds another girl to the email and she goes actually she knows more about the logistics this girl emails and goes okay so that was actually the bride and she's so type A that she was pretending to be me and asking for the order and now she's looped me in and we're and sorry about that iconic icon so from that moment I was like iconic like I love a type A girl that's like actually I'll just do it myself we pretending to be your own assistant is like not talking about enough and needs to be done as women in STEM to be like hey Hannah's waiting for the follow up I actually have talked to a couple of people who have made second emails pretended to be their own assistant and like always made themselves a man because I love people who respond better love anyway so we're like let's surprise both of them because now the surprise is like totally ruined so we email back and we're like sorry like page of schedule like it's just not going to allow it but we would love to make you a reservation for Friday night or for Thursday night when you guys arrive for like you're like welcome drinks basically like we'll make the reservation we'll set the time on us so Daphne also will plan your so Daphne literally will plan your bachelor so we have the bride and the maid of honor have no idea so I had a couple people from Daphne already there and I'm in the basement so it's getting pumped literally and like that shepherd is gonna come out and be the leader you're just in a basement with the headset and you're like the eagle has landed so they get there the my Daphne um employees give them like a bunch of matching shirts and matching sets and everything that they wanted and then they went and sat down and were like okay like have have so much fun like sorry page couldn't come whatever then like two minutes later I brought over like champagne to the table um it was so fun and just like like easy quirky fun cute like it was a great like kick off of her bachelor at weekend like I just felt like it was such a adorable moment. that I also imagine you doing things like without me and I'm like how because normally normally I'm like how she get out of the house if we were doing it I would have jumped and you'd been rolling her eyes in the back but like you surprising someone on your own I'm like that's but she's so like kuth you actually never spoken to I'm like she's never really exclaimed before but you I saw the video coming your little kitten heels and you're just like you will you want to know it's so funny I was scared to shut out them I'd be like like during the whole thing I didn't know what to do with my hands I know I know I was like I can't like grabbing them because I was like hey I'm just like a small small girl no it's just so shy you guys know I'm saying she's so shy so then when you do difficult things like that I'm always like oh my god look at her navigating the world in her kitten heel and but also like surprising someone is it's tough because you're like what if they don't respond the way you want it and then once you're there I'm like what do we talk about like yeah so how are you I was very I was nervous to surprise them but I I was nervous that to surprise them because I thought they like knew and I was like I didn't want them to be like oh yeah obviously like here we got us they badger it so I got like a little nervous but they were so sweet and it sucks that they have like a horrible weather weekend but well at least in the city doing like fun indoor things based I mean like the power point for the whole wedding weekend so I knew like what the vibe was for all the outfits and like there's nothing I love more than a power point that a girl makes that has nothing to do with her job and like because they're so helpful and resourceful like who the girl that made this power point like she was like think skirts shorts pants like I'm like so close like like she gave a vibe of like she's giving me an option but she should you guys should wear and I'm like so everything is acceptable and a go that reminds me of us and one of our important zooms which is just that should be a show in itself yeah because Paige and I were like just listening to people talk but I felt like we should say anything and they were like are you ready um we have a presentation and I just go we love power points and they're like uh okay and we're sitting there and at the end they go um Paige you have any questions and she goes I'm just happy there wasn't a quiz at the end of that I thought there was gonna be a quiz and then we got off the call because someone had to crack a joke you know I literally almost interrupted and was like what in the eighth grade science class because I've almost fallen asleep seven time the whole point of a power point is you get to press it and surprise people with a funny photo I texted Hannah while we were doing it because I had literally in the moment come up with the most genius thing I've ever come up with I could not stop yawning so all I kept doing was rubbing my nose because you couldn't see that I was yawning I was like every time then I screenshot Paige in these zooms and by the way it's not with like three people there's like 20 people and but I'm watching her believe me I'm keeping eye on her I always watch you I watch you the whole time she can't help oh and we'll wait for what I'm gonna say about you okay she goes come for me no but like I screenshot and send it to the group chat just so great to know how you're representing us in a public world well sometimes she pulls out her skin care which like at that point I'm just like that's what I know yeah I think like I pretend smile in this life way more than you which like I'm jealous of I wish I could have your confidence I'm fake smiling 24/7 and I'm like Paige is just sitting there like well you've made yourself a clown for the people I didn't tell you to do that so like people expect people interact with you and they're always laughing so they expect you to also be in a jovial heart being a light in this dark world yeah and I've given I'm I'm this close to a panic attack so push me and something no so what do you have to say about me okay miss performative Hannah's in the zoom doing performative chin grab like she's come on like she's contemplating a god damn thing she also Michael what are you colonel mustered in the library with a revolver like you're trying to look I think I think everyone's watching me um so like think people are watching me and I have to show I am bitch wow yeah wait also do you know what I'm doing I'm hiding my double chin okay the other thing that I think you do that literally could be burst out laughing in any moment that I actually have to look away sometimes is you nod and it sounds it sounds innocent enough but she does it in a like hey that's a really good point never thought of that I'm like they didn't even say anything okay I'm an active listener I am a look I'm an empath and when someone speaking and no one's reacting see I know you know what you feel for and I'm an object that's how I feel for real people and now like when they're talking and no one's reacting I'm like come on someone has to give them a little positivity so you're but you know that's why I don't like social situations because by the end I've I should win an Oscar well I had to I have a team meeting every two weeks and last week I said guys what are we doing here this is an off camera zoom I get out of my face like I don't were you there for our last off camera zoom yeah I'm the one that started it I guess who didn't finish it who you yeah I showed up and didn't go off camera oh yeah yeah yeah I was the first one on with one other girl and I said hey you're either with me or you're against me turn your camera off and she goes I'm with you absolutely everybody else joins they're go oh it's a no camera zoom I go and I show up two minutes late and it shows up two minutes late didn't have to do the intros I goes I'm just gonna be camera on I said she's like came out on camera and I just was like wait I love my attention and then I was talking I was nodding for them could the truth is if I'm off camera I can't trust myself if I'm off camera I'm playing tennis like if I'm with camera I'm petting my cat I'm not listening to anyone but if I'm on camera I have to look at least like I care and then you care more wait I love how we just did 20 minutes about zoom calls but I feel like it's relatable no that but that's like really pertinent to my everyday life so yeah like we usually go darken in everyday life yeah so I love a little zoom joke in the beginning and then I could calm down once I get the laugh I'm like yeah my quiz joke was pretty good on that zoom really fucking funny I always laugh a little too hard and everyone's like okay yeah you guys know each other okay so I've been having a full woman in STEM moment lately because I got some new plants you know planting watering sunlight fertilizer all of that it's giving science experiment but in the actual best way and there's nothing more rewarding than watching something you planted grow I've been getting my plants from fast growing trees they're the largest online nursery in the country and they have literally every plant you could even think of from trees and shrubs for your yard to fruit trees cute house plants and more and the best part is fast growing trees actually makes it impossible to fail they have real live plant experts to talk to you if you have questions and every plant is backed by their alive and thrive guarantee so you can honestly just ask if you're actually killing your plant or not I love to get a fresh orchid every couple of months because I do in fact kill them but with fresh growing trees I've been going pretty strong and right now gigglers can get 20% off their first purchase at fastgrowingtrees.com/giggly that's 20% off at fastgrowingtrees.com/giggly your plant parent era starts now so summer's upon us which is crazy but I was like looking at bathing suits and I love cheap bathing suits yeah but I don't know because I'm not like doing a photo shoot in them like I'm just trying to be in the pool or the beach you're playing games I'm playing yes yes or I'm sprinting I'm swimming I'm racing I'm doing I'm a mermaid you're doing activities so it's impossible to lay out with you no yeah you're not you have to be actively engaged the only time you can really lay out is if we're discussing something that we've discussed eight million times but there's one new fact and we're beating that fact beating that fact with a dead horse then you can lay and tan because you're actively doing something but if it's like the same old shit you're like should I like hit a tennis ball and we'll talk about this well the good thing about our friendship is it's eight years of drama we can pull from so much the archival's are archival is fucking good and we rotate but I got like some TikTok advertisement for a bikini it looked beautiful I clicked it $195 for not the full bikini for the bottoms what yeah I mean there's one of these like nice ones but like what is it's underwear what is in this bikini that's $195 and it's separate so that the $400 bikini make it make as okay as a designer as a fashion mode - Google, make it make sense to me. How do they get to those numbers? - It's hard to justify because it's such a small piece of clothing. - And what is it made out of that makes, like, isn't it just like-- - I would assume it's probably mostly spandex. Is that, like, really pricey? - No, but, like, I don't know what swim material, I don't know how hard it is to make swim, because I don't even know what that's, like, made of. - I don't know, I think it's, like, a real rip. It's a real rip. - What were you shopping on? Do you remember what website? Or, like, do you remember, like-- - It was, like, a brand. - Like, it was, like, a swim brand, or it was, like, a clothing brand that had swim. But it was, like, it was nice. Like, it had, like, $200 dresses. - No, bathing suits are tough. But here's the thing that is hard to justify spending so much on bathing suits is because a lot of the time, unless it's, like, a very good quality bathing suit, I would say a lot of the time after two summers, it's kind of, like, dingy and gross and you have to get a new one anyway. - Yeah, it goes through it. - Yeah, you go through them faster than other articles of clothing. - You know what makes me mad? It's 'cause, it's feel like they're pulling something over our eyes, where that I'm, like, what the fuck am I supposed to do with one weird colored bottom? - You hate getting duped. Put it in a set, put it in. It's like being like, hey, this earring is $200. Just one earring. Like, obviously I need to buy the other earring. Wait, one time, I ordered earrings and it was, what was the brand? It was like a brand that was, they had a store in the West Village, I think it was like super big at the time. Something like, it was like a woman's name. Something like Tasha or like, I forget, whatever. And I'm like, and everyone's getting these like, a little mini dainty earrings and I'm like, I have to. So I go online and I like see the earrings that I want and I'm like, great, I'm gonna get this. It was like 195. I was like, that's insane, but like, whatever. I get it, it comes in the mail, it's just one. And I'm like, is this a fucking joke? - I'm like, clearly someone like messed up like the other earring and we like get on customer service and they're like, no, we sell them individual. Like, they thought I was stupid. - Yeah, yeah. And I didn't realize it was like, because every girl was doing like multiple piercings. So they just send it like one. But I'm like, it's a, it's a pair. I have two ears. - And meanwhile, men have three and one shampoo. But we're paying for one bikini bottom. - How are we gonna take over the patriarchy when like, we're out a month's rent for half a bikini. - You know, it's something that would send me into a coma now that I would have like died for in high school as men and earrings. - I never went that gay. (laughing) So I wanna say I've gone gay. (laughing) - No, you have, you have, and then you have, and they were good friends. - This is my question. Was it a little mini hoop? Was it a dangle with a jeansie or just a stud? - Stad. - Okay, there was a time where guys with one stud, he was naughty. You're like, that's a bad boy. - One stud, no, I liked double. - I liked cubic zirconium all the way around. - You would have loved the Staten Island guys. Like, you would have lost your mind at the Staten Island Mall in 2006. You would have been like, dry-humping at a hot topic. - Well, you know what's funny is like, remember when Facebook came out and we had like, we're just like in the kind of in the beginning of high school that like, we could have it. And did you ever like, happen upon like, your friends, cousins, boyfriends, sister, who like lives in a different state? Like, I remember the first time I ever saw like a New Jersey prom. Like on Facebook. - You were like, and just being like. - And just being like, wait a minute. Like, I don't know what's going on in my body, but I like these guys. - That's funny because I heard that you're from Albany and I was like, oh, I didn't know they had Italians that like, up north. I thought they all were in New Jersey and New Jersey. I didn't know they made them in the cold like that. - Well, because my family didn't come through Ellis Island. - Do you think you're better than us? - No, how did they get here then? My like, great grandpa came over illegally as like a stowaway, but through like a port in Boston. And he had like, a cousin in Albany. So that's how he ended up-- - There's always a cousin. - Yeah, it was like, wherever you could get a job. And so we didn't have anyone in New York City yet. So no one lived there. Look at you with the historical fact. - I mean, there's definitely like, there was definitely like a part of Albany that was all Italian at some point. No, I didn't like go to high, I didn't have like high school girlfriends that were Italian in the way I was Italian. Like maybe they were a little Italian, but they didn't either like celebrate the way I did on holidays and like their mom certainly didn't yell at them the way my mom did. So I'm like, she doesn't love you. (laughing) I'm like, did you just tell your mom to shut up? That's crazy. - No, I love the Jersey vibe. And I also love, yeah, I don't know what age that changed that I was like, I would never date someone with two earrings, but now I'm like, that's so terrifying. Although the thought of like being able to share earrings is nice. (laughing) Everything I say, it's just like Pedro, a lesbian. And you should come out. (laughing) I'm like, but you could have the same wardrobe. And that would be convenient. 'Cause I like said something and some girl made a TikTok and she was like, I literally said this right before I came out. - Well, Paige and I were famously on the phone and I said to her, I feel like every friend group has in the closet lesbian. And Paige said, not in my friend group and I said, (laughing) that's how you know that you're the one. (laughing) - Guys, you think, you think I don't want this? I want this, my life would be so much easier. - Yeah, I could see, like, you know that one random, like really girl-a-girl dated Miley Cyrus. Like, if you did meet the right girl, you'd have like the happiest life, but I don't know if that's for this lifetime. I just know the right girl could so I'd be off her feet. - Here's the only reason and dare I jump in on this condo. The only reason I say that I'm not is because from the moment I was little and I saw a boy, like I knew I loved boys. I genuinely think that's why my mom made me go to an all-girls high school because she knew I loved boys. - Yeah, I also feel like if I came out, people would be like boo-boring. It's like so much more exciting for you to come out. - It would be so exciting. - 'Cause I'm lesbian passing. I identify as straight, but I'm lesbian passing. And that's why I'm so close to the community and not all gay guys like me. Even though I (laughing) 'cause they get less mean vibes for me. But no, they're a gay guy that is my heart and my soul. - Yeah, I've been hearing more and more people talking about gays, gays versus girls' gays. - Really? - Well, there was a lot of discourse on TikTok. I feel like about how there was a guy. Did you see the guy with the whole solid core thing? - Yeah. (laughing) - Okay, so I didn't, we talked about it in the very beginning. Is it still going? - Hannah, it's still going on. And I don't know all the details. If you want to look it up, I think it was in like Darian, Connecticut, I want to say. - Yeah, it's this guy from Connecticut who was like putting solid core on blast all the time. - But it was this gay man who would go to solid core and he would go to like the earliest class every day and something happened. I think he was recording the instructor and she might have been like late one day or something. - Yeah, yeah. - And they were like, please don't like record the instructors, like don't put this on the internet, whatever. And he was like totally like, but like she was late. And then something else happened and he got in trouble for something else. And they emailed them and they were like, you can't do this. And he was like totally like, so sorry about it. And then something else happened that like, he was like, I didn't do this. So now he's almost at like three strikes. (laughing) The last thing he did I guess was, he's in the parking lot before the class even starts early in the morning. Like I think he goes to like the 6 a.m. So say they're in the parking lot at like 5.45. - Also that is when you should be in room sleep. Nothing good happens before 7 a.m. or after 1 a.m. - Nothing good happens before 7 a.m. - And I guess he was like yelling the instructor's name and I think the instructor kind of got a little like, wait, like are you like really mad at me? Like again, like it is a man at the end of the day. - Until like all these girls were making tick talks about like certain gay men that have been like really mean to them, whether it be like in their friend group or like in a work setting or something. And I'm like, yeah, it's happened to me a couple times and it's very drawing because it's like, oh but we get each other. - You're like, you're supposed to be on my side. Can I talk to you for a second? - Yeah. There are some men, it doesn't matter what sexuality they are that are misogynistic. There's women who are misogynistic. So just keep an eye out in these streets. - Obviously gay men can relate to us on so many things. Like I had this one friend who she was like, she was saying how one of her gay guy friends like said something about her being fat while she was pregnant and she was like, and it just like, really? - I con it. - I'm like, who was this gay? (laughing) - Let me meet him, but she was saying, like, her to feelings. She was so hormonal, and he kept saying, like, you have to be pregnant with twins, and she was like, and I'm not pregnant. (laughing) - You're crying, 'cause that's gonna be you. (laughing) - I'm gonna cry so much, I already know. It's gonna be so hard for me. I'm gonna be in pain all day. All I think about is my short torso, and that's because of you. I was never scared of that before. - Paige, not to be depositive, but remember how much you loved raising your eggs in the hormones, because you finally felt-- - Alive feelings. (laughing) - I felt love, I felt drugs. - No. (laughing) - I felt real feelings-- - What's up? - Hitting it, I felt real feelings during that, and that was scary. - You were girls' girls. - Girls' girls. (laughing) - Anyway, what were you saying? - I've also had gay men fight for me, like I've never been fought for. - Yeah. - I had actually a beautiful moment with a gay glor, where I was in LA at a coffee shop. (laughing) Scared. And there was one beautiful man just standing there, and I was like, wow, he thinks I'm so good looking, and then he came up to me. And he was like, I just have to let you know, I love your comedy, because on Netflix, there's not a lot of, like, gay male representation. So, like, your feminine comedy is like the closest I can relate to, 'cause I don't relate to other comics. And he was like, and through you, I've been introduced to other queer comics and artists, and like, thank you for being a voice like that we needed. And I was like, so I'm Lady Gaga. (laughing) If there's one gay man in my audience, I go, it's really hard being Lady Gaga. You're like, and being the voice of a community. - Can you and a meat dress? I feel like is, you should do that one here for Halloween. - But also, like, being straight is so boring. All I wanna be is an ally to more interesting people. (laughing) All I want in this world. - Well, you wanna know why being straight is annoying because it's so predictable. - You got married, you had kids and then you cheated. - Yeah, we saw that, you know, it's just like our lives are so predictable. Where the gays, they go out. They're doing things with different people. They're like, they're all over the place. - Also, they're naturally traumatized because they were told by society that, like, what they do is isn't the norm. So they're naturally been through shit that made them grow, which makes them hilarious. - So anyway, just reminding all the gaglers, how much we love you, and any man that's in the closet listening right now. - Wait, what are you doing for the holiday we got and do you have any plans? - Oh, the Norse visiting, and she's getting many petty right now, and she watched me play paddle, and we might take, well, she loves them at the Health Walk, when Norse loves them. - And she goes fast. - And Norse loves the walk. - She goes fast. Also, we're going to Vegas for the American Music Awards. - Oh, fun. - 'Cause you had a wedding. - Yes, I do. I have a wedding in the middle of the week. - I do have to say, I did find out I do have one wedding 'cause it seems like I'm depressing me, being like, "I have no weddings," and then I felt like everyone was like talking about me, like, "Oh, she wasn't on her friends." There's a wedding that doesn't tell me about that I am invited to. - So not your friend, God. (laughs) - Sorry, all my friends are sluts. Sorry, they're all business sluts. Who don't want paperwork involved? - Sorry, my friends have rejected the patriarchy. - Sorry, my friends haven't settled. - Yeah. - Sorry, I'm the only friend who's got paperwork involved. Did you see sports illustrated? - They were like, Alex Earl, can you ask Hannah some questions about dating? And I was like, oh my, I'm like, why am I gonna say to Alex Earl about dating? I'm like, Alex Earl, I have literally haven't sent a good flirty text in a minute, even though back in my day, you know? - But you still have it in you. - I have it in me, and I do moonlight for a lot of relationships, but I haven't put myself out there, obviously, but she was asking me questions about dating, and then at the end, I was like, I'm fucking married, I don't have to be defensive about that. I'm married. So I. - You have to listen to what I say anyway. - Okay, one of the questions was funny. They were like, do you wait to text back or not? And I think I actually had kind of a good answer, 'cause I feel like waiting to text back. Yeah, do it a little bit, but it becomes too exhausting to be like, did I hit the hour mark? I think you text back immediately with typos. So he's like, she's busy, but also like, she clearly doesn't give a fuck. She responded immediately and spelled everything wrong. She never, she'd send the seller friends, and I think there's something confident about that. And you get the conversation going. - Those are great answers. - I hate when you're in these like four hour text things with guys where I'm like, I don't even know anything about 'em 'cause we've only, we're playing this like game. I'm like, we're all on our phones. - Everyone. - All the time. - Everyone, but I said I went in double text. - I mean, I've definitely done it. - I've done it like, if it's like, we're texting during the day and then like, I'm out, but I'm not like continuing a conversation. - No, like I'm not asking the next question. Like even natural question is to follow, like then I'll say it, but if the conversation has come to a halt, I'm not reigniting it with a question. - Or like if I said something really dead, like if I just said okay to something, then you can continue it as just like being nice. Also, if he's your son mate, you could literally send him a paragraph about how you want to have his babies and he'll be like, cool, same. - Yeah, you can never act too crazy for the right guy, ever. - Me and Hannah are very much in the true belief of traumatizing them early, see what they can handle. - Yes. - Yes. - Yeah, strong they are. - And then you can weed it out really quickly. - Speaking of, women of some of the week. - Wait, before we get to women of some of the week. - Sorry, I got ahead of myself. - I've had so many girls messaging me, a cosmetologist who have learned the art of the gray hair, honey. And a lot of them said it's a myth that it's not that if you pluck one out, five will grow in its place. It's that the belief that is that you are damaging, damaging the follicle, okay? And that causes to grow back a little weird? - No, I forget what this is. (laughing) - That you've just lost melanin, that like it's growing, like it's not gonna grow five more back, but like that follicle, it's gonna grow gray because you've lost melanin. - But it was already gray. - Yeah, my girls were like pluck away. - Okay, so it's funny. Whenever we say we're confused about anything, we get tons of messages from gigglers. And I was telling Daz, I'm like, oh my god, we get so many messages from like doctors. He's like, who's messaging you up? I'm like, people were like, hey, I'm a surgeon at NYU Langone. I was just listening to gigglers squad. But I did get one message that threw me. This girl said that she's our women's side of the week. She is a twin, and she said, they did their own study on the ground, boots on the ground journalism, and said that she plucked her grays, and her twin didn't, and she has more grays. So that threw me, that threw me, threw me off, but I'm still plucking. 'Cause what are you doing if you're not plucking? - Well, a lot of girls were giving different root sprays. - Yeah, they're root sprays. - Or I just wanna go full gray with thick tortoise shell glasses, and a cape, and just walk around like, talk a shit about everything. - Okay, but not like our thirties. - No, more like, like our six thirties. (laughing) But our women of some of the week run her up is Shakira. - Ah, yes. - Do you know what Shakira did? - Yes. - Wait, do you wanna tell them? - So a couple of years ago, I don't know if you guys remember, but Shakira was accused of tax fraud in Spain, and she literally proved the court wrong, and was like, give me back my $10 million, I think, is they seized or something, or froze. - I shouldn't know about this part. - And so she like proved that she didn't commit tax fraud, and they were like, okay, yeah, you're right, we're wrong. - Not to be controversial, but. - Sounds like an inside job. Sounds something something fishy was going on. - Can girls commit tax fraud? - No. - I don't think we should pay 70% tax. (laughing) - If women were in charge of politics, that would be the first, there would be no pink tax. Like why are we getting tax the most when we make the least? - It kind of is crazy that feminine products are taxed. - No woman would have thought that. - Yeah. - Some old man, but I'll add that to why she's womanist some of the week, but my reasoning was her ex, who cheated on her, is like a soccer player or football, and she's the face of the World Cup. (laughing) - So iconic, so iconic. So whatever your ex is doing, find the way to be the face of it. It's not that hard, just like put your mind to it for a couple of years. - It's honestly, it's not that hard. (laughing) - Imagine everywhere he goes. It's just her face and her songs. - Yeah. - And people are going to the game just to see her. - Hell yeah. - So respect to that. 'Cause you know that her team was probably like, you could do this, you don't have to, you're ready an icon, you don't need to work this summer, and she's like, yeah, I do. - Yeah, I do. - Yeah, I do. - Clearly my plans, I definitely do. - And the documentary I recommend everyone watch, is the Kylie Minogue documentary. - What's that on? It's on Netflix, it's three episodes, I don't think they They talked about how good her style was and one thing I'm very jealous of Kylie Minogue for she's first of all, I think it's Minogue I I'm gonna have to say Minogue to that I Think it's Minogue. Okay. It's not Minogue you either. No, I knew that and it's not mon to you No, that's a whole different fan word. Yeah, yeah, it's just a different word But you can say Minogue to bring it back to the beginning like if that's what your heart is is singing We should double check on it. So think with Kylie Minogue Do you know that she's think with Kylie Minogue she started in Australia? That's where she was born on a soap opera That blew up Like everyone was obsessed with it. It spread to the UK. It spread to Ireland and Then she decided she wanted to do some singing and everyone was like you can't be a singer. You're an actor And she was like I'm 19 years old. I love I love music I've always loved music and it just reminded me how much like people want to put people in boxes Yeah, cuz I hate being put in a box like the second I'm in a box I try to like do the other thing really try and break the box. Yes And I do think people can't comprehend that just cuz you started somewhere that's not where you wanted to end Mm-hmm and a lot of the time when you do something that's not even what you planned and then they put a fucking stamp on your forehead And they're like this is who you are now. Yeah, so she was like. Yeah, I was auditioning for gigs to make money But like I always wanted to be a singer like I actually never want to be a soap opera actress Yeah, and she's so fucking beautiful and she hasn't gotten work done Which makes her like so like you can't look away cuz she's unique looking and what I am so jealous of her about this bitch can pull off every hair color and Every hairlength from a shaved head bright blonde blue black She's now 57 and she's on like a full world tour Her career wasn't saying and I love a music documentary. I just like eat that shit up You love the music documentary. Do you know I haven't watched one music documentary that you've told me to watch? Why do you do this to me? I feel like you've watched it so you've informed us enough for the both of us. So if we ever run into this person some day You're got you literally have us covered. I'll be like she thought your name was my no I'm burzing. I think I might think are you watching anything? Am I watching anything? No, honestly TV has sucked recently I feel like what the hell? I don't know the streaming platforms guys did you clock out like what's going on? There's no shows Everything is for like I know that we are feminists because we are alive but Every show feels so geared toward men Then I'm like Like I don't care about like this drug deal gone wrong One thing I wanted to say about your special is like the Utah girls must have been like um who did Hannah's hair It was giving full Mormon Wife but like she doesn't wear her undergarments like not see from Mormon wives commented I'm sure she did what she said She was like I can't wait to watch and uh she but definitely like that's my sister Oh, I was like where is Hannah's long blue dress and seven kids because You were giving Mormon let hair was giving JZ styles we do had in page trying new things Mormon We're just like any cult Also, you're like I think she's slipping. I think she's slipping. It's really hard to be in a cult If you have stomach problems like I do because it's like communal bathroom And you can't get up during the group like chanting Because I get mad at you so I'm like I'm like kind of past the cult I just also like me to be alone for a certain amount of hours of that and so like don't tell me what to do because I'll have to like kill you So like no I'm not in your cult Anyhow I hope everything has a lovely holiday for gangling with us have a great weekend. We love you so much. Bye

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The speaker reflects on the intensity of creative collaboration, sharing how she and her friends obsess over editing, often making last-minute changes and pushing for perfection.
  2. A strong bond is highlighted between the two women, built on mutual support, emotional awareness, and genuine reactions—especially when the trailer is well-received, which signals true friendship.
  3. The conversation touches on feminist themes, including gendered communication patterns, the burden of societal expectations, and how women often use filler words to maintain connection.
  4. The women share personal anecdotes about daily life, including cleaning habits, parenting, and social dynamics, revealing differences in upbringing and gendered roles.
  5. There’s a critical discussion about gender, power, and representation, including critiques of overpriced fashion items, tax policies, and the lack of queer visibility in media.
  6. The podcast includes a playful yet insightful look at women’s experiences in the workplace, with humor about dating, relationships, and the fear of being judged.
  7. Personal milestones, like a wedding and a surprise bachelor party, underscore the depth of their friendship and shared life experiences.
  8. The women celebrate cultural icons like Shakira and Kylie Minogue, using them as symbols of resilience, self-determination, and breaking gender and cultural norms.

Summary:

The conversation blends humor, vulnerability, and deep reflection on friendship, creativity, and gender. The speaker and her friend navigate the highs and lows of collaboration, from editing a trailer with constant revisions to celebrating personal milestones like a wedding and a surprise bachelor party. Central to the discussion is the strength of their friendship, built on emotional awareness and mutual support—especially during stressful times.

The dialogue explores feminist themes such as gendered communication, societal expectations, and the financial and emotional burdens placed on women in consumer culture. There’s a sharp critique of industries exploiting women’s choices—like high-priced swimwear or gendered product pricing—while also celebrating women who break boundaries, such as Shakira and Kylie Minogue. Personal anecdotes about daily routines, upbringing, and relationships reveal a nuanced understanding of gender roles and power dynamics.

The tone remains light and playful, often punctuated by self-deprecating humor, but underlies a serious commitment to self-expression and authenticity. The conversation ultimately celebrates women’s voices, resilience, and the power of community, especially in creative and personal spaces.

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Hannah mentions that no one warns you about the smell of certain experiences, like when she first tried something that was sticky and smelled bad, which she learned through trial and error.

Hannah is a perfectionist and deeply involved in editing her content, often rejecting clips and making changes. She values feedback from close friends, especially when they react positively to her work, as it confirms her artistic vision.

Hannah believes women use filler words like 'um' or 'like' to maintain conversation flow and avoid silence, and she finds this behavior natural and empowering, not a flaw.

Hannah finds surprising someone emotionally or socially challenging, especially when it involves vulnerability. She admits to being nervous and shy during such moments, but notes it can be rewarding when the person responds positively.

Hannah is critical of the pricing of luxury swimwear, calling it unreasonable and feeling it's a form of exploitation, especially when compared to the short lifespan of such items and their high cost.

Hannah and Paige have a deep, long-standing friendship built on mutual support, trust, and shared humor. They rely on each other emotionally and creatively, often bonding over inside jokes and personal experiences.

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