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Giggling about mermaids, masculinity, and catfishing

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Giggling about mermaids, masculinity, and catfishing

The podcast offers a heartfelt, humorous, and deeply personal glimpse into the daily lives of two friends navigating motherhood, self-discovery, and emotional vulnerability. The conversation begins with a playful exploration of morning routines, where one speaker uses visualization to control their wake-up time, illustrating how internal belief shapes behavior. It quickly shifts into a candid discussion about parenting, revealing how children—especially daughters—impose expectations around appearance, style, and self-presentation, leading to both humor and frustration. The dialogue expands into broader critiques of societal norms, including the romanticized image of marriage, the emotional neglect in relationships, and the lack of support around postpartum experiences. Drawing on stories like *The Little Mermaid*, the speakers reflect on toxic relationship dynamics, where miscommunication and emotional suppression prevail. They emphasize the importance of self-awareness, boundaries, and authenticity in relationships, urging listeners to recognize when a partner is truly supportive. The episode also touches on cultural nostalgia, from classic music to old TV shows, while criticizing fragmented storytelling in media. Ultimately, it celebrates resilience—how despite chaos, motherhood, and personal struggles, the speakers maintain a sense of joy and unity. The tone is warm, self-deprecating, and grounded, offering a relatable, authentic take on balancing personal growth with family life.

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(upbeat music) - Sup, Gidler? - Gary, fix your Wi-Fi. - No, it's not that shit. We can't be manners. (laughing) - I'm in the day just got away from me. - Right before the pod starts, I'm always like, oh my god, I have so many things to tell Hannah and then the pod starts and I'm like, - That's scary. - What's my name? - How did you find me? Who are you? - Like, I just wrote one note, tell myself. - Tell myself to wake up. - Well, can we just say this is an early morning pod? We have to warn people when it is, 'cause it does have a different genesis quad to it. - Yeah. - Yes. Not good, not better, not worse. Just slightly different. - Interesting. (laughing) - There are any different headspace today. (laughing) Oh, the mornings. - Okay, no, I have, I have a hack. Okay. You know how I'm always like waking up in the middle of the night, doing weird things. She's a night owl. - She's a vampire. - I think, I think before I go to sleep, I think, oh, I'm like annoyed that I know I'm gonna wake up at like three or four in the morning. So we did a science experiment the other night. Right before I went to bed, I said page, I said it out loud too and in my head a little bit. I said page, you're waking up at seven a.m. Because I have an amazing internal clock and never slept through an alarm in my life. Like, can I wake up 30 minutes before I have to wake up and then I like ease myself into it. It's a big thing or I get a stomach ache. Anyway, so I did that the other night and it worked. - This podcast is just an internal dialogue of us fighting our demons. And you're like, this is what's going on in the dark depths of the night inside my head. Wait, so you manifested waking up at the right time? - I manifested. Yeah, I told my body, hey, cut it out. We don't need to wake up at four a.m. And I did like a slight wake up, but not like in overly. - When you wake up in the middle of the night, does your heart start going? 'Cause you're like, oh shit, I'm awake and I can't go back to sleep. Okay, sorry, I didn't want to put that in the ether. Don't listen to that. - When something is like physically going on in my life, that's like causing me angst. I will wake up super early with like tight chest heart palpitations. - Are we on the therapy zoom? (laughing) - We're going, that's why we'll buterin' is recommended. (laughing) We had a different night last night. Well, okay, I have the kids. I have Lois and Bobby, my niece and nephew. - You've been treating me like a year a new mom. Like, I call you with problems and you're like, I don't know, call someone who has time. I have kids. - I fully like have and check my text messages all day. I don't know how moms have timed, I can't shower. Like, it's been chaos. Lois is literally you reincarnated. - Yeah, Lois is everything I want my daughter to be. She's spunky, she's sassy, and she's stylish, honey. - But I think that she looks a lot of photos of us and me wearing these like cool outfits. So when she sees me, she expects me to be in like a beautiful dress. So I, yeah, she expects, (laughing) she expects you to have done glam. - At the minimum. - For sure, she arrives because she's proper. Yeah, she's like, so she's, you know, kids wake up at like the crack a dawn. - She goes mom, and Hannah's cat fishing us. (laughing) We gotta get out of here. - Well, the real sim shady, please stand up 'cause that's not my Hannah Hannah. So she wakes up at the crack a dawn and then I'm in my bedroom sleeping. So she's, I think, assuming that I'm like getting ready for her, so then when I come out looking, how I look in the morning, she's not happy. I walk out and I see her smile turn to a frown and she goes, we need to change your outfit. This is me wearing my pajamas, my hair's a mess. She goes, we need to change your outfit. And I'm like, let me have some coffee. Let me start my day. We need to change your outfit. I say, okay, she takes me into my room. She goes, show me the dresses. - She's like, show me what I have to work on. - She's already roaming around. - She's like, I'm not expecting much. I'm like, it's not promising, but let's just see. - She knows immediately if she likes me. I go, is this cute? She goes ugly. She goes, this cute. She goes ugly. Okay, that was $300, okay, never mind. She looks and she knows what she likes. And now, you know, she loved purple. She goes, I need to let you know. I also like light pink and yellow. And I go, add it to summer colors, got it. So she takes a white dress. She brings out, I have all these sandals all over the place. She finds the cute white thong sandals that match it. Gets a white necklace, puts it on, and then takes my MU, MU white purse and goes, okay. Here, you're welcome. - She goes, was that so hard? - Walk out and she goes, mom, look at her now. And then she literally was like, tag the stylist bitch, give credit where credits do. And she's walking, she's looking, then she loves me. She's literally like you when I have glam. - Yeah. - She's farmey around. She's like a princess, you're like a princess. - Yeah. - She's literally my brother was like, doesn't page like, you better when you're pretty. I'm like, yeah, I'm literally like reliving page through this little girl's eyes. - She has a pink aura. - We go the pool, God forbid I pick up my own bathing suit. And at some point I'm like this, I need to talk to Jeannie about the control issues, but anyway. - She's literally standing at the pool. She's like, why is no one ready? - She goes, we have to change. And she basically is like, do you want to pick out bathing suit and she goes, take them all out. Take them all out. So I put them all on the floor. 'Cause what I've seen, 'cause what I've seen, she's literally, she's like, smoking and cigarette. Get out of my head. Get out of my head. You've not really freaked me out. I just picture her standing in your bedroom doorway. Like, this is it? - She's taking smoke breaks in between. - We're in the hamptons. - This is what you have? - Oh God, oh God. So she looks through and she loves things that are sparkly, but I don't have any sparkly bathing suits. - You don't have any sparkly bathing suits? You're 34, get a grip. - She's literally like, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, she holds one up, she goes, really? - She took her lighter and started burning. She goes, never wears a gun. Who let you buy this? She's like, how many Amazon bathing suits does a person need? She goes, mom, extend my trip. I gotta be here at least a month. - I don't know how I have this bathing suit. It must have been for like a theme party. Like when I was 24, it's a silver bikini. And then like, please don't be a song. My whole family's here, please don't be a song. And she goes, I want you to wear this. So this is 10 a.m. And I put on this silver spring break, can't coon girls gone wild bikini? - I feel like I know which one you're talking about. I feel like it's like a little metallic. - Yes, it's metallic, but like it's, this wasn't the vibe of our West Hampton morning. - Right. She's like, do you have any heels? (laughing) - So I walk outside with her, my dad, my brother, Jeannie, Bobbi, my mom are just sitting on the couch and they're just, they're not even dealing with it at that point, they're like-- - They're not phased by it. - So we go and the pool together and she loves mermaids. So I'm like, am I a mermaid? I'm looking at her and I'm like, my hair's in the water. I'm like, am I a mermaid? And she goes, you're a fish. (laughing) She's like, don't give yourself a, you're a fish. - She ate eight down with that clear the whole room, clear the whole pool. But why she loves me is because one thing Anne Hannah has, she's got the credit card. - Yeah. - And one thing about me is I can't say no to Louis Burner. And she looked at me and she goes, can we go to the fashion store? - Which is that just like any store that has clothes? - Yes. - Where she can get her clothes. And I said, if like, how many new clothes do you want? And she was like, a hundred. And I said, yeah. - She's like, I haven't seen them yet, bitch. She's like, what do you mean? She's like, we haven't stepped in this store. But what I love about her is I talk to her like an adult and I said, low, is if I get you a hundred new clothes, where are you gonna put your other clothes? And she goes, am I dresser in the garage and I'll get rid of the old ones? She had a full plan. She goes, I have an organizing team coming over. And we're gonna donate the ones that I don't wear anymore 'cause there's some fit me anymore. So I actually do need the new clothes. - She's like, I'm doing a brand deal with an organizational company. Don't you worry about it. - I see the montage right now. Louis Burner's walking closet. - She's like, by the looks of it, you don't care about organizing. So, buzz off. - Now, is she into toys at all or is she strictly like fashion? - So we did get distracted by the toy shop. She was like, would it be crazy if I got some toys too and I said, okay. - She's like, and then we'll get lattes. - It's literally like, I was just on a girl day. We did pool, we did shopping. We did come up with outfits. She got the Demon Hunters Barbie. She loves Barbie. She wanted every Barbie and I was so proud of myself. I was like, pick one Barbie. I don't know how parents are even on TikTok because I feel like even when I get like a TikTok ad for like some toy or game, I'm like, I want it. I need to get. I don't know how moms aren't just buying everything. - And the algorithm's so good like, if like she loves purple dresses. So I just keep getting fed purple dresses and I'm like, well, I can't not get that purple dress. But then she did a page. She's, It's like this crazy toy store and she's looking like she's going in the detail. She's reading the fine print and she goes, I want that. And I'm like, what? And it's like all the way in the back. Like, I don't know how she saw it. It's an infant baby. She's a mother with a full bassinet. And she goes with the bassinet. I go, how do you know what a bassinet is? I don't know what a bassinet is. She looked at you and she goes, oh, my baby, raw. You need a bassinet. So she's holding the bassinet, baby, while calling me ugly. And it was the most fun. But I'm exhausted. Oh, then not to bring up all Disney again. Do you know that's a theme on the, but we remember we talked about Bambi. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, we don't remember anything we've ever talked about on the spot. We start fresh. I go nice to meet you. No, we're like 50 first weeks when we get on the pod. We're like, there are so many times I'll go fully into a story. I'll finish it and page you really, you said that last week and I go cut it, grace, cut it. So do you want Hans Christian Anderson is? No, he's not a guy on the, um, Norway football team. Okay. He wrote the little mermaid. He's like the guy. Okay. Of course, he's written by man. So my mom has like this old book of like Hans Christian Anderson. They were like, he was like, what's my dream if women shut the fuck up? I read the original little mermaid to her and it's, it's a novel. Like it's like 60 pages, but like a ton of words. And she like somehow knows when I skip words. Like, it's kind of weird because I'm like, you can't read. How'd you know that I did? Yeah, skipped four paragraphs. But, um, the real story of the little mermaid is crazy. Is it? Like what? Like dark and twisted. Basically, when I got my mom's walking by and she goes, you're going to need to change the ending. Walks away. I go, what the fuck's about that? You had to pull a charlotte's web. No, I didn't have to change the ending. I had to change the whole plot line. So it starts off with basically this girl. I mean, it starts cute. She's like a mermaid and she sees a prince on the boat and who's really hot. And I'm like, but even though guys hot, it doesn't mean you're going to be happier in life. I try to put those stuff in, you know, um, it's a little male centered. Right. So then, oh, no, the kids are, the kids are coming back in. I'm dead. I don't know how this is going to work out. All they do is yell. This is crazy. Why are they back? We're told in 1030. Why do they back? Okay, let's have Lois say hi and then I'll kick them out. Lois. Okay. Sorry about this. Toby, Toby don't have anything important to do. Lois, come in here. Come in here. I'm on Gagley's squad. Do you want to say hi? Come in. I'm going to, there's Princess page. Oh my God. Princess Lois. Look at that princess dress. I love your dress. Put together an outfit for me. What did you get me to wear? Remember the white dress? What color bathing suit suit should I wear today? Pink, yeah, because hello, sir. Bobby say hi, Gagley squad. Hello, mister. I'm in a few words. What color bathing suit suit should page wear? What color bathing suit should I wear today? She's considering a lot. Yeah, she's like, she's like, well with your skin tone right now. How about blue? Okay, perfect. We're so similar. We think similarly, Lois. Okay, how many needs to finish the podcast? Can you lock them up? Or maybe just put them outside? Yeah, put them outside. Bobby, say bye to Princess page. Bye, Bobby. I love your t-shirt. I love flowering. I love your flower dress. Do you think I could borrow it sometime? Yeah. Well, show page how many smile. Oh, yeah, how do I, how do I smile? Show page. 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Go to naturesunshine.com today and use code giggly for 20% off your first order plus free shipping. That's code giggly for 20% off your first order at naturesunshine.com. OK, this is like so niche, but like I remember like random quotes from like childhood movies that I was like obsessed with that watched every single lot like day. And there was a quote in Matilda where the trunk table says, Oh, kids, glad I never was one. And I and I think about it every time I see a child. I go, Oh, kids, glad I never was one. See, when I see a kid, I turn into a four year old like we're just four year olds together. OK, so back to the little mermaid. It's just so fucked up. So she sees, but she was like, his tally is green eyes. I'm like, let's do not fall for this. I fall for it before just because you see him across the room with a tall, blue eyes. Doesn't mean you're going to like sell your fucking soul for him. OK. So then the boat, the waves get high and he falls out the boat and the Princess saves him. So it's like, why are we saving a man's givings and day in challengers? But anyway, so she watches him up on the shore. But then she hides because she's a mermaid. And that would be weird, right? When he wakes up a different bitch, finds him. And he thinks she saved him, which that's typical like male story writing because like, where's the communication? Like, I know point was he like, did you save me? She'd be like, no, I just found you here. But instead, do you have one time a guy sent me flowers? And I thought it was someone else until I texted the someone else. And I said, like, oh my God, I can't believe you sent me flowers. And he went with it for like a while. That it like a week's I until I found out. Do you know that's actually an amazing move just to text random guys? Thank you for the flowers. Well, I have before said text to people and said, oh my God, did you send me flowers? And then when they respond, you don't respond because then they think like, oh, she figured out who really sent her flowers. And now she's talking to them and she can't respond to me. You are playing chess. I have no spine checkers. So he's falling in love with this new girl who he thinks saved him. Cause God forbid he actually asked, did you save me? So just classic miscommunication, right? And then she's, um, she goes back to her sisters and she's like, I met a guy. And they're like, no, and she's like, no, he's really, really cute. And they're like, he's the best and she's like, no, but like, he is wise. He's tall. Like, that's literally the story. She finds him, but she has to give up her voice and she has to be naked. And not that much has changed in the year 2026. If I had a nickel for the amount of times, a sea which takes her voice and then basically throws her on the short naked and alone with no voice. And the most fucked up thing he's into her. And that's usually how I am after a breakup. I'm naked and I have, I've lost my voice. I've lost myself. I'm a shell of myself. No one intended. I'm a shell. Okay. But the thing is somehow he, he like befriends her. And I'm like, how do they both find each other when she can't speak? So she's like, they're really into each other. But he goes, but I need to marry the girl who saved me. Not this beautiful mute girl who I clearly am really into. He's like, I just love how your mind works. I love how you can say so much, but yet nothing at all. You tell such a story with your eyes. Basically, the Prince was talking about it. talking to her for like an hour straight and then was like, "You really get me." He was like, "You only want to understand me and you're really fucking cool." - No, you want to know what? We don't talk enough as a society because this would like really piss the men off. It's so easy to get a guy to like you, but it's so hard to like a guy. Like truly, you just have to ask a man three questions consecutively about one, like, thing that he likes and he will be obsessed with you. - Literally just go up to that guy and be like, "I love O'Jan and O'Bee." Did you watch, like, "What did you feel about the finals?" Like, "Wasn't that insane?" And then let him talk. The next, let him talk for like. - Oh, I thought you were asking me for a minute now. - Babe, I would not. (laughing) - That's two different. - I don't give a flying. - Be like, "Wasn't that the craziest time ever?" - This is for the New York summer scene. Let him talk for like 30 minutes and be like, "Same." And he'll be like, "Yeah." - She never missed someone that like, can like understand me besides like, like, "I feel like you're like my mom." - It's so funny. This girl made a TikTok and she was like, "I know I say, I know I've said something wrong on the internet when I have a lot of men responding, being like, yeah, need more of you like, protect her." - Wait, no man's ever commented protect her, which is hilarious. No man's ever commented protect her. - I feel like the moment a guy says like, "Wow, like, girls aren't like you or something." Like, "You've gone awry, you've gone to miss." You've said something wrong. - You think I'd like to help it? It's not a good outfit. - It's not good. - Just one feminist moment, I have to say, I was thinking about all the red pill men that are obsessed with like, controlling women and that's what makes them masculine. Do you know what's the most masculine thing a man can do? Protect women. Stand up for women. Like, fight for women. That is the most manly thing you could do is instead of putting down women. That's not cool. Not masculine. - Oh, you're stronger than us and you're trying to suppress us? Ew. - Not cool. - Guys, not cool. - Ew. - Anyway, okay, so the prince is like, I wanna marry you, but you don't. - No, no, no, he goes, I wanna marry you. I love that you don't speak, but this other girl saved me, but she can't speak. So she can't be like, she didn't save you. And I guess the other girl's just gone with it, which you know what, go for her. He's a prince. I kind of get it. I'm like, if he wants to say that cool. So then they throw a wedding. They throw a full wedding and she goes to it 'cause she's toxic. And she's, yeah, no, literally a masculine. - She's dancing. I don't know if she has clothes on, but she's dancing at the wedding. And what really happens is she goes to her sister and she's like, I can't deal with him being with this other girl. And the sister goes, you should kill him. So violence gets involved. - Okay, and suddenly I'm back in. - You go, I spaced out the last 10 minutes. Now I'm clocked. I'm clocked for my shift. - Now I'm logged in. This is how she tell the sister if she can't talk. She can talk to other mermaids. - Great question. I guess she can talk to other mermaids. Maybe in the water. So many platoes that in that meeting, they were like, it's haunts. Let him do what he wants. (laughs) Difficult haunts. So then the last, my mom literally was like, you gotta change this part, 'cause the last picture, she instead of killing the prince turns and kills herself. - Oh my. - The picture is her with a knife into her chest. That's the last photo on this ancient book. So then I changed it to being like, and then they live happily ever after, but you don't need a man. - I need to see this book. I need to see this picture. - I'll put it in the newsletter. It's insane. And these lowest isn't a very vulnerable place right now. She is soaking up, she's like a sponge. Yeah. So I'm reading this, and I'm like, we never had a chance. - No. - We didn't. So next time you're feeling bad. - We never had a chance. - And also like, what was haunts going through? Who hurt haunts? Who rejected haunts? - It's so funny you say that, 'cause I was with one of my girlfriends the other day, who's married, and I, I said to her, I was like, don't you just feel like we were fed this lie, our whole lives as women, where it's like, don't worry, because one day you're gonna get married, and you'll get taken care of, and you'll be a mom, and all this stuff, and then as you get older, you're just like, why do they even say that to us? - Yeah. - Because now I'm like, who's taking care of me? Like, what are you talking about? - A hundred percent. I'm like, well, shout out to my dad. Every now and then, he says something profound, even to blind squirrel, finds a nut. And he said, don't let a man distract you, which I've taken that with me my whole life in terms of like, if a man is annoying you, not annoying 'cause man can annoy you all the time, but like, if he is causing you negativity or like, not pulling you in the direction that you wanna go, you get rid of him. So I think like, that was really powerful to young age to have my own dad be like, you don't need us. Can I say something that's like not as powerful, but like, it's stupid, but it's like a, - Wait, let me talk to the team. Yes, you can. - In my 20s, when I would arguably say I was like the most boy crazy, the most like, pick me like, oh my God, I have to have a boyfriend like all of this. I've always been like a list person. I've always made a schedule for myself every single day. Like, just think random things I wanna get done. I would notice that when I was with a certain type of man, I would do nothing on that list, whether it was me being like, fuck off to the list or it was him actively doing things and it was like, oh, well, I don't have time to do this stuff for me because I have to do this for him. And then when you find yourself with someone where you don't even have to live together, but like, where you find someone where you're doing everything you planned on doing that day without them as a thought. And like, still you're able to get it done. I feel like that goes undetected a lot. Like, people don't talk about that as being like a real pro to a relationship. And it's in some part, like, you're still able to be yourself. So I notice the moment I'm not doing my to do list, I'm putting way too much time into you and what you're doing. And now it's fucking my shit up. And if someone doesn't care about fucking your shit up, regardless of what it is, what scale it is, they don't care about you. Like, a man is like, if I tell my boyfriend, like, I have to be here at a certain time. And he's like, dilly dallying and not get. He doesn't respect you. You don't respect me, you don't respect my time. You should be ready like 30 minutes before because you know I have to get somewhere. That was extremely profound. That was really fucking good. Me, that was so good. But you have to figure out what works for you, like how you notice it for you. Like, I just know my to-do list is a constant in my day to day. So I could like pick up it, pick it up on that. Also, when I think of dating like a game, I'm like, when something would happen when I was like 26, or like 25 and it didn't work out, I was like, oh yeah, 'cause I'm not the person I'm gonna be and the person I'm gonna be is gonna attract better people too. So why fight for like this version, this guy who likes this version of myself that isn't even there yet? And I always say the more you focus on yourself, the more you open doors to meet people who are gonna meet you where you're at. And if you're not where you wanna be, you're not meeting people who you wanna meet. I really do believe that you attract the type of people from like what you think about yourself. Like, you know how people say like, oh, if you look back at your ex-boyfriends, you can see like your mental illness or you can see how much you loved yourself. Oh, like if I really did a timeline, like you can see what happened in certain relationships and why you go like opposite sometimes because you're like, that was really crazy. I need no part in that ever again. So it's just interesting. You really have to like take self inventory when you're dating someone 'cause it's so easy to get wrapped up in those first six months. And if it's not blissful in the first six months, why are you even there? If the dopamine still, he's still annoying. You're still fighting with the dopamine? No, I think if you're getting in like any type of like screaming match, break down, fight in the first six months, it's not for you. You don't need to even. I should have taken my own advice so many times. Well, that's why now you can speak on it because you're like, guys, I've ignored this for years and I can believe it for years. I've did admit something like, I feel like I just have to say my intrusive thoughts on this pod. I saw a video of Benson Boone. Okay. I still don't quite know who that is. Not important. Say it again. Refresh my memory. You'll know who it is, white day to story. He's in front of his tour bus and there's like all these fans. and either side I'm going to do a front flip. - Okay, Benzibun is the guy who does front flips. Like he flips off pianos and stuff. - Okay. - He was like on the VMAs. - I'm obsessed with you've no idea where Benzibun is. That's incredible. - I have no idea who he is. - That's so peaceful, that's so peaceful. - Picking him out of a lineup couldn't do it. - The toxic side of me was like, I was making fun of him, my head, but then I'm like, wait, if I could do a front flip. And I was on a giggly squad tour. - Weepy down the floor. - And there were a bunch of gigglers standing there. I'm doing a front flip. - The best thing that ever happened to us as a society is that you never got into competitive cheerleading. - No, well, apparently I was put into gymnastics, but like I wasn't good. - I just feel like there's an alternate reality where you were like really into sports but like more like my kind of sports, but you like dominated it. You want a competitive cheerleading team as the main base. - I love the base. - Maybe it's insane. - Well, that is really, how to code it is the base. You're the, what is the flyer? They're at the top of the perimeter. - Flyer, yeah, you're like a one arm piked leg. - Like page, this is why our friendship works out. Someone is at the top of the pyramid and someone's at the bottom. And that's how it balances. And I'm always bottom of the buriant. Get 'em all back. - When you're looking for a best friend, you have to find your base. (laughs) - She's sturdy. - You have to find something grounded. - She's going me down. - Wait, someone sent like a picture of, I think it was like a horse race. And one of the horse's names was Quad Sill. - Wait, the best thing I've ever seen on the internet is the video a giggler made of the two horses talking. Can you explain it? - No, if you didn't see either of our stories or on the giggly squad, there was a giggler that has these two gorgeous horses. And she did one me, one Hannah. - Because the horse that's me is like, (laughs) - And the horse that's page is like way with like a perfect bang, like a side-swap bang. - She's like barely opening your mouth. She's like, what's going on? - It's so good. - Okay, so how long are you a mother for? Like when do the sweet babies leave? - Well, I'm literally in shelf dry then like staying at my parents' house to spend more time with them. And last night at the beach, the lowest came up to me and said, can I fix your smile? And she, with her little thumbs, she tried to pull my mouth back. And I was like, she goes, "Hannah, I can't look at you anymore." - Wait, what's the, what's the bravo quote? Where she's like, there's no plain baby. There's no, there's no plain. - Yeah, there's, I actually don't even really know what that's from, but like I feel like I've quoted it myself. - Taylor and like I think her baby was like, can we go on the private plane, but like she got divorced and they don't have the plane anymore and she's like, there's no plane. - No, bring back unattainable people to reality TV. Like, like sorry. I mean like OG early 2000s. - Generational wealth. - Yeah, like I wanna see some shit I've never seen before in someone's home like I want. Someone who like presses a bell in each room and like a butler comes in. You know, like I want something. - Where are the butlers in New York City? Where'd they go? - I don't know. Do you think anyone has, still has like legitimate butler? Yeah, I mean I'm sure. Think about like any like really rich person in the Hamptons. Think about the tea their house management has. Like that's a reality show. But then they'd all get fired. - But like worth it. But within within each other they talk. - Sorry, my zoom is like freaking out. Hello and we're on. What were you saying? - What was they saying? - I have no idea. You know what I'm saying? I have no idea. - Oh, people were also sending me a video of this girl. All her friends were like at the beach and she's with her boyfriend and he turns to like propose, I think, but she doesn't always proposing and everyone's looking at her. So she just does a split. And everyone's like this would be you if you could and I'm like literally that's all I wanna do. So she's in a split. He's like trying to propose and she's like, is anyone, did anyone think that was a good split? - That's so funny because obviously recently I'm obsessed with stretching my hips. - Are you gonna get a split and do it on tour? - You know what? I'd have to silently be working toward doing a split and then I'd have to bust it out and surprise you. - But you know, I can't handle that emotionally. Like I would like, I'd cry. I'd be so proud of you, but that would require you getting out of the seat. - You know, I'm not practicing to do a split. I just need to be more aligned mentally, physically. - One thing about us, you know I love when you say no to me. - Yeah. - Because then in six years, you know you will be doing splits on stage. Like I love when you're like, and I would never, and I stop. And I won't do that. I'm like, you're getting cat. - You're getting cat. - Okay, so in six years, I'm a Pilates instructor who has seven kids. I wanted to be a center man, but I also did like a guy was watching friends on the plane and I was watching it and I was thinking about, we've never talked about this, which man on friends did you like? - We've never talked about this. Do you know, I've like never really watched friends. - I never did either. It was always just like on in the background in like my friends places. - Yeah, like I've never sat down pilot episode. I know maybe like the gist of it, but obviously. - I know but smelly cat, 'cause I'm, you know, I have a pulse. - Yeah, 'cause you're alive, you're in the culture. - But obviously, Joey. - Same. - Yeah. I mean, he's the cutest one for sure. I'm just gonna say this 'cause I'm gonna be honest of the three guys on friends, the kind of guys that like, if I walked into a room, I wouldn't be into them, but if I heard one of them thought I was hot, I would fall in love with them. (laughing) You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like David Schwimmer or whatever, I'd be like, he's not that cute, but if they're like, he likes you, I'd be like, okay, he could be my boyfriend. (laughing) Same with the other one, Chandler. Like they're cute enough that if they like, - R.I.P. - It's so sad, it's so, so sad. But Joey, I think they tried to make it like, he was dumb, and I was like, he's an actor, he had a memory of his lines. He wasn't that dumb. - Yeah, and then there was like a stint where he was with Jennifer Aniston, but and I don't like know about that storyline, but I know that I don't like it. - No. - Because I just don't, I didn't, I don't like that vibe. I don't know, there's something about, there's something I love a sitcom too. Like I love a 30 minute, like funny, like, whatever. I think all the girls in it, I love looking at them. Like I love, yeah, I loved all of that, but for whatever reason, I just like could never get into it. I don't know if it's because it, it came out at a time where we were like way too young to watch it. And then when we got old enough to watch it, it was almost like it was such an older show at that time. - Yeah, like Gen Z's love friends, 'cause when it was like Nistat, it was like old, it's like us watching Saved by the Bell maybe. - It's so crazy to think that like Gen Z doesn't know about watching TV like on TV. Like, remember like was there ever a show that you watched either like middle school or high school that you waited for the cops? - Yeah, it does. - When you were on commercials, you would like run. That's where housewives. Okay, mine would probably be like Gilmore Girls or something. - Jersey Shore on the hills. - Yeah, but that was me older. I'm just listening to everything I've ever watched on TV. My super sweet 16. - When you're around kids, does it make you like, oh my God, I know I'm even more ready for children? Or does it make you like, that's, it's a lot? Like does it make you re like? I know exactly how moms feel when they say, it's so difficult, but so beautiful. Like I just become the like making up things and like, it's the, you're unhappy, but you're so happy and you lose yourself and you find yourself. Like I literally feel like that. Like then to the day I'm like, that was so horrible, but I loved every second of it. Like yeah, but it is crazy where at this time and age where like no woman can fully explain the true experience of motherhood in like a easy way. - One of the craziest things too that I think that we like, in society is obviously right when you turn 30, people are like when you're getting married, when you're having a baby, but it's like, we get pushed to have a baby and then you have a problem after you have a baby and it, and like I feel like the healthcare system's like, figured out yourself. - Oh for sure. - You had the baby figured out yourself. It's not like you know if you're gonna have postpartum. Like it's not something you can really truly, I feel like prepare for. - And it's not something that like women freely can talk about. I feel like, I didn't even hear about postpartum until like the last five years, like in my ether. - I literally, I remember asking my mom maybe like a couple of years ago, like did you have experienced postpartum with either of your pregnancies? Did you have any friends that like had it? She goes, "Won, we didn't. " call it that. Yeah. I go, what did you call it? She goes, we called it the baby blues. What a good rebrand. And she goes, uh, like, yeah, everyone's like a little sad after like, I guess I was a little bit, but I had nothing like crazy. And I'm like, that's so fucking insane. It's not like you had me in the '60s. It was 1992. Like, no one asked a follow-up after like, you had an extremely traumatic birth. And she was like, not really, no. Like, that's just so crazy to me. I don't know. I just like, I think about it a lot. Well, you finally get comfortable with your identity sometimes, like in your 30s. And then you have a kid and you're like, wait, I just started like who I was. Well, that's what it is, I think, too. Which is weird. Where in your 20s, I almost feel like it's your easier with change in your 20s because like, everything is changing. Where in your 30s, things are a little bit steadier. You've, you know, you're maybe like in the same apartment for more years. You've been dating someone the same person. So like things aren't as crazy. And then you have a baby and you're like, I feel like you're right back to what the fuck is going on my life. They explain the love of children. And then the sadness of having children is like, you don't know it until you experience it. So it's so hard for these male doctors who were studying it to be like, this is what's going on. I have a pregnant lady in my house right now. I just feel like if this is a wild thing to say, but like being a man and being an OB/GYN, I'm like, but how do you know? No, I'm calling the police. Like how do you know? And I'm sure there's so many lovely nice men who are OB/GYNs. But I'm like, I can never explain it to you. No. I think this should be illegal. Sorry, I didn't get any of that because it's breaking up, but I'm just like going with it. Oh, you guys, my internet's breaking up. Is it still breaking up? Okay, you know what? I'm going to move. I'm going to move. Oh wait. I lost internet. Wait. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Okay. I watched the Michael Jackson movie. Oh, you did. What do you think? Is the guy? His cousin or like his, the guy who played Michael Jackson, he's like related to him, I think. Is he? Yeah. That's why it's so interesting. And sorry, I thought he was spectacular in it. Spectacular. Great acting. Great singing. Great dancing. I mean, I don't know if the singer was real, but the dancing was like, I couldn't keep my eyes off this guy. I'm like, I think we have the new Michael Jackson. Are you a Michael Jackson, like take, like take him out of it? Are you like a Michael Jackson music fan? I think I'm just like a normal, like, yeah, Michael Jackson. Everyone knows Michael Jackson. He's great. But after watching the movie, I went to my parents and I'm like, when beat it first dropped, what was that actually? Did you guys lose your fucking minds when beat it dropped? And they were like, yeah. And I'm like, because also it wasn't like, you know, now we get like a little notification, like someone's albums on Spotify and you don't click it. Like back then it was like Michael Jackson. That was like the number one news for like a year when he dropped a song. Well, it also like moved. He started like almost like a whole new genre. Like the music sounded so different. Yeah, like what was the vibe when beat it dropped? Like imagine clubbing and hearing that for the first time. No, I was like, were the boom boxes just like all Michael Jackson. Also thriller, the fact that he creatively came up with that. Like he was like, I'm gonna do makeup. Like I'm dying and then I'm gonna like, I've like, am I lagging? Oh my god. It's okay. I do think there's a part two about like all the other shit that went down because it ended like there's more to, did you see the ending? Yeah, I saw the ending, but like I'm so annoyed by like the movie and television industry because we went away from network TV and going to the movies. Okay, fine. You got us away from that. Now we're streaming everything. Now we're barely even going to the movies. Stop breaking things into two parts. Stop putting out eight episodes and acting like you did a whole season and then taking two years for the next season to come out and stop breaking up longer seasons. Oh, okay, you have 15 episodes. Stop giving me six and then telling me I have to wait till November for the rest of them. Get it together. Like wicked doing two parts, ridiculous, ridiculous. We didn't need the second part. The Michael Jackson thing. Okay, there was a lot of stuff you probably could have taken out of the first one. We don't need a second part. Give me one movie. Anyway, that's how we peel. Because I'm sick of it. I'm sick of streaming platforms being like, okay, you'll get the next part in six months. No, fuck you. I want to know. Oh, fuck. Can you guys hear me? It's funny because I feel like I can't. Can you hear me now? Sorry, it's gross. Like the rant is so funny with no one's saying anything back. Can you hear me now? Okay, I think we're going to wrap up today's episode. Okay, I've never wrapped up the episode before. I feel like that's all the time that we have for today. We'll be back on Monday. Don't forget to get our merch. Hannah will be childless. Bye then. See you. And I'm back. Last page. It's hard being a mother. That's what we learned today. To be a queer woman and a loving mother. It's hard to have it all. But you know what, in spite of all that, we still finished the pod with our heads held high. And if you're a new giggler, this is called just a day in the life of being a giggler. We're very bad at admin. And if you're an old giggler, you knew that was going to happen. You knew that we weren't going to be able to figure that out. But we persist and we deal with adversity. And I hope you guys have the most beautiful weekend ever. And that is literally so page. It's literally what we do on FaceTime calls. We're like, we get cut off and like, haven't heard from her since. Might not hear from her all weekend. We'll see. Actually, no, she just sent me a voice note about something completely unrelated. But we love you. Page loves you. Keep smiling, Sandiego. Never said that in my life.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast features a candid, internal dialogue between two friends navigating morning routines, personal habits, and emotional struggles.
  2. One speaker shares a self-experiment using visualization to control wake-up times, demonstrating how intentional mindset can influence bodily rhythms.
  3. The conversation reveals the emotional toll of motherhood, including early mornings, daughter-driven expectations, and the challenges of maintaining identity amid family demands.
  4. A humorous but insightful exchange explores how a child’s fashion sense and creativity reflect deeper values, such as self-expression and personal style.
  5. The discussion critiques societal norms around motherhood, relationships, and gender, highlighting miscommunications, emotional vulnerability, and the need for self-awareness.
  6. The speakers reference classic stories like *The Little Mermaid* to examine toxic patterns in relationships, especially men’s reluctance to engage in honest emotional connection.
  7. They emphasize the importance of self-respect and boundaries, noting that true compatibility in relationships is shown by mutual respect for personal time and goals.
  8. The episode ends with a lighthearted yet profound reflection on resilience, identity, and the joy found in everyday human experiences.

Summary:

The podcast offers a heartfelt, humorous, and deeply personal glimpse into the daily lives of two friends navigating motherhood, self-discovery, and emotional vulnerability. The conversation begins with a playful exploration of morning routines, where one speaker uses visualization to control their wake-up time, illustrating how internal belief shapes behavior. It quickly shifts into a candid discussion about parenting, revealing how children—especially daughters—impose expectations around appearance, style, and self-presentation, leading to both humor and frustration.

The dialogue expands into broader critiques of societal norms, including the romanticized image of marriage, the emotional neglect in relationships, and the lack of support around postpartum experiences. Drawing on stories like *The Little Mermaid*, the speakers reflect on toxic relationship dynamics, where miscommunication and emotional suppression prevail. They emphasize the importance of self-awareness, boundaries, and authenticity in relationships, urging listeners to recognize when a partner is truly supportive.

The episode also touches on cultural nostalgia, from classic music to old TV shows, while criticizing fragmented storytelling in media. Ultimately, it celebrates resilience—how despite chaos, motherhood, and personal struggles, the speakers maintain a sense of joy and unity. The tone is warm, self-deprecating, and grounded, offering a relatable, authentic take on balancing personal growth with family life.

FAQs

The speaker tells themselves they will wake up at 7 a.m. by stating it aloud and mentally, which helps them manifest a wake-up time without needing an alarm.

They experience heart palpitations and a tight chest, which are signs of anxiety and stress when they wake up unexpectedly.

Lois is a young, stylish, and sassy child who has a strong sense of fashion and expects her mother to look put-together, often leading to playful arguments about outfits.

Lois wanted to buy a bassinet for her baby, showing unexpected interest in parenting items despite being a young child.

Lois has a strong sense of style and expects her mother to wear dresses and look glamorous, which leads to humorous exchanges about fashion and personal presentation.

The speaker finds the original story dark and twisted, especially the part where the mermaid gives up her voice and is rejected, which parallels feelings of emotional loss after a breakup.

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