Giggling about mafia bosses, microplastics, and melatonin
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The podcast blends personal storytelling with sharp cultural commentary, exploring themes of self-identity, mental health, and resilience. Hosts share intimate moments—like a toenail incident, UTI prevention, and struggles with anxiety—while laughing at their quirks and daily absurdities. The conversation touches on relationships, motherhood, body image, and the pressures of fame, especially in the context of reality TV and social media. There’s a recurring emphasis on authenticity and community, with guests reflecting on how societal norms, like the "high-rocks" trend or constant digital exposure, can distort self-worth. Health and wellness are woven throughout, from hydration and supplements to the emotional impact of losing loved ones. A central theme is the value of staying true to oneself despite external judgment, with humor and vulnerability serving as tools for connection. The hosts also discuss practical life choices—like changing phone numbers or choosing the right capris—highlighting how small decisions reflect deeper values. Ultimately, the conversation celebrates resilience, personal growth, and the importance of community in navigating life’s chaos, especially as people age and reassess their priorities. The tone remains warm, self-deprecating, and deeply human, offering both entertainment and insight.
(upbeat music) - Sup, Giggler? - Gary, fix your Wi-Fi. - Manifest that shit. - We can't be manners. (laughing) - I'm in the day, just got away from me. - What's up, my granola Giggler? - That's a good one. - I hear a dog in the background. - Barking. - Are you okay? - No, am I ever? - Are you under attack? - Probably. - I'm like, is he right there? - And now he's on, he's downstairs. - What makes him bark? Like, what are the things that get him going? - Oh God, people in hats. (laughing) - Which is very you-coded. He's like, I hate that hat. I hate that hat. - Don't wear a hat around this guy. - Take off that hat. - People running swiftly. Any type of commotion, really? People with guns, horses. - Who has they run into with guns? - On the TV. - Oh, he hates the TV. I hate the TV. Anytime there's a ball on the TV and not in his mouth, upset. So you get why Kitty beats the shit out of him, like, how are you? - I'm good every time we get on the bottom. I haven't talked to you in so long. I literally- - That was butter. Do you know why she did that? 'Cause I ordered sushi. And it came right when Paige was like, I'm ready to eat. And my sushi's just gonna be sitting here, the whole pod. And butter knows something so- And she's not food motivated. - Don't take them- - Don't! (laughing) Don't take a phrase, I say, off the pod and then use it on the pod. - Me and Zafni were at a shoot today and they were like, oh my God, she's so well-behaved and I said because she's not food motivated. And Hannah turned around and said, you could never tell by looking at her. (laughing) - And then we pressed record and I said, I am a little, I don't wanna say jealous because I support women in the arts. Totally. I'm original cackerel. - Yes. - You were the face of Fancy Feast. - Yeah. - Sierra just came out, Jasper's the star and let me say, Sierra's also OG cackerel. - Totally. - That's how Sierra and I initially connected, which granted, they cut a lot from summer house but that was one thing I was like, I get it. You don't need 45 minutes of us talking about our cat. So now I respect that. Jasper's starring in a campaign, which I'm so proud of him for. He deserves it, he's gorgeous. - He's spending the money. - Oh, it's been a little double butter. If you're watching YouTube, she's here. Butter, do you realize other cats are putting in hours, they're responding to emails. They're listening to what people say and actually they're a pleasant person to be around on the job. - Definitely, I want to go to an Ivy League because she needs to save her money. - No one's ever said you're pleasant to work with but her because you're not and you're only good around me and no one else. But if that's, you know what? Some cats aren't made for stardom. - And that's totally fine. - But she's so beautiful and people forget that every day. She looks like Cindy Crawford. That's Cindy Crawford. - Wait, oh. - Wait, how sad that Cindy Crawford sun died. - He was only 27. - It really affected me when I heard it. - I think it's 'cause like he's, I was gonna say he's our age, but he's not. It's, no, when people who pass who are younger than you, it's really fucked up. - Yeah, and I just feel like him being in rehab. It's like, that's even sadder because his family was probably like, okay, he's getting the helping needs. It's only up from here and that I just, I can't. I couldn't imagine that. And also like I couldn't, I can't imagine losing your only sibling at such a young age. And she's younger than him, I think. - You know, I think it's 'cause both of us we have one brother. - Yeah. - And he would speak up a lot about mental health. So like, I loved everything he was doing. - Yeah. - Knowing that he was going through something. So yeah, just really fucked up. - It's really fucked up and really sad. - There's no way to transition. - How about we stay medical and I'll do a little UTI update. - Oh. - The gigglers are always looking out for me. They're always tagging me in like new innovation for UTIs and all the stuff. And I haven't said anything because I didn't want to jinx myself. But next month I'm one year of no UTIs. - Do you think it was a psychic that you spoke to or was there like a little, did you cut a cord or put something in a fridge? What do you think it is? - I think my own intuition was rejecting every man I've ever been with, one. I think my body was like, nope, not him, we'll let you know. Nope, not him, definitely not him. We'll let you know. But then also I went to my doctor, my kinesiologist who, I don't know if I've said his name before on the pod, but like honestly, I kind of want to keep him because I'm like that you just have to put in the work. I found him 10 years ago. Like this is, I'm not trying to lose appointments. But he put me on two supplements that just like, that honestly I don't even still take. - What are they? - One was like a cranberry supplement, but it was like double what the normal, I think cranberry supplement is. And then the other one was a regano, honey. - I said, my mom could have cured this 20 years ago. - Low key when he said that to you, you were like, oh you saw my last name was a Sorbonne, are you giving me fucking a regano? Is this a joke? Is this a joke to you? - He was like, put a bay leaf in it like it'll fix it. - No, he's like to just sprinkle some parmesan on your pussy, get outta here. - Truly, I know I say this a lot, but it's truly life changing. - Well yeah, you were, you had chronic pain. - It was debilitating. And also, not even like when you were getting one, it's the anticipation of like, when you're going so like every time I traveled and I was like away from home, I was like, okay, I gotta make sure I have all my UTI stuff, just in case one strikes. The only time I ever feel like a little hankering of a UTI is when I'm dehydrated. - Or whenever you don't wanna go somewhere, I get a text and she goes, I feel it. - I feel like coming on. - I feel it might be coming on in the next year or two. - My mom made me stop drinking my Stanley because she said it's bad for me because your body is not supposed to drink anything cold. - And so she's like, stop drinking your Stanley, I drink room temperature water. So and room temperature water so gross. So honestly, I'm dehydrated all the time now. - Well, you can still drink from your Stanley, just don't put ice in it, that's what I do. But not because I'm not drinking, it's because I don't. Honestly, because my freezer's broken. - I feel like I can't fill up my Stanley and not put ice in it. - I've put ice in my Stanley like three times and it was too heavy. - It does get really heavy. - Also, if you're not drinking from your Stanley and then you can't drink from plastic because of microplastics or whatever, macroplastics, all the plastics. - Then where are we supposed to drink from? The faucet, like Taylor Frankie Paul? (laughing) - No, the girls are going through it. - Everyone's mad that we said we were gonna talk about the Mormon Housewives and we didn't. I finished it. Do you have any other thoughts besides the sweatpants? Apparently she's out, Michaela's out. - I knew Michaela was out. I didn't know Taylor Frankie Paul's out. - The Mormons are dropping like flies. But also I don't trust anything right now. This is like, they don't know what they're doing at with the show. - Was it you that told me that Taylor Frankie's Paul's mom was on the internet? - She's doing full episode reviews being like, Taylor, are you for real? Are you for real, Taylor? Are you for real? - Until TikTok became a thing, there's so many phrases and situations that you've just never heard of. And I always see the phrase like, "Oh, your mom was your first bully." Or like, "Oh, this person's mom was their first bully." Which is such a foreign concept to me because I couldn't imagine having that relationship with my mother. But I think that they're kind of a great example of it. Any episode I've watched with the mom with Taylor. There's so many times where I've wanted to go through the screen and be like, "We put that to your daughter." Like, not that I have kids, I don't have to go that hard. But I know for a fact, if my child did the worst thing imaginable, I'm still on their side. That's my child. - The first scene is her being like, "Mom, I have to take a pregnancy test." And the mom is so mad. And like, even just to say the word disappointed, like, fine, be disappointed as a parent. But to look your daughter and I be like, I'm disappointed in you. Also 'cause we learned that Taylor's mom was in her own like abusive relationship. And I think she's seeing it again with Taylor. So there's honestly the truth is, this show is so good because it's so real. They plucked these girls from TikTok. They were just a chaotic friend group plus some added people for casting. And it's raw. These people are not, you know, never claimed to be mentally healthy. - Yeah, everyone combusted. Everyone's maintaining a combusted. - She is the victim of serious religious trauma. I mean, even Macy, she got pregnant at like 19 and instead of like the shame she must have felt. 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Also, everyone's getting married. Everyone's pregnant. How can you think straight when you're always pregnant? - And then Michaela, who was abused and then got pregnant at 16. It's like, okay, wait, but you were so child then. - Yeah. - And then Jen and her husband. - Jen is 26 right now. - No. Her brain just fully formed. She woke up and she's like, where am I? - People are really mad at Jen for this past season, for multiple reasons. And as someone who doesn't know Jen and is not in their friend group, I think we can like see different things as the viewer. One, she's in. - She's in a. - She got her pink back. - I got my pink back, pink back, pink back. - Like she's obviously so visibly jealous of Whitney. She wants to be doing the things that Whitney is doing and she. - But she was so complimentary of her, she didn't want shader. - Yeah, but she was like picking a fight with her, whatever, then that could be just like producers being like, but don't you still have beef with her? Like we need a storyline type of vibe. I just think it's so important to recognize people in your friend group who genuinely hate their lives because it impacts like. And I feel like I've called you so many times after being on the phone with a friend and like said to you things they've said to me and you've said back to me like, okay, if a picture hits her life, like her, like, you know, like she's not happy, so like how could she be happy for you type of vibe? - That's what I say, baby, I have empathy for them. - Jen is a classic case of she was sold this idea of what her life was gonna be when she was like 20 fucking one and now she's 26, she's four kids deep. Yeah, how is she digging herself out of that hole to like have a different life that she clearly wants? - It's also so fascinating because all these women got what they wanted, which was the money and the power but then like the society around them, especially in Mormonville, has it figured out? I'm kind of like guys, move out of Utah. - Well, I think it's inappropriate that all of their husband stopped working. - And then bought a cyber truck and then complained. - Like you can be rich enough that your spouse doesn't have to work, but like. Unless you're taking care of the kids full time, baby aren't you bored, like what? - I don't think Connor complains about taking care of the kids. I hate when they're mind complaining about taking care of the kids. - No, but he seems like someone who thought about being a stay at home dad before it was possible. - Yeah, where like when Zach was like, I'm exhausted, I was, this is how he talks. I'm exhausted, Jen. I was with the kids for two full days and I let you go on dancing with the stars and delivered and then you wanna sex with every action. - The phrase, let you, coming from a man. - No, I'll spontaneously combust. I will spontaneously combust. - Also, Jen is so cute and like bubbly and she needs to get her pink bag. - I don't mind to stay at home dad, but I don't want him to use it against me all the time. I want him to be like, it's like when you meet a guy who loves cooking. If he's totally like, go off cooking, cook for me. I love it. - No, like, have a hobby for sure. - Oh, you love taking the kids to play golf or what? Like, yeah, take 'em. I love that for you. - Get out of here. - I do think that it's just so interesting 'cause the girls got the money, got the power and son and are miserable, but it's-- - I think it's a good lesson in like that stuff really doesn't make you happy. Like who just went on a press tour? Oh, Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock. They're on their press tour for practical magic. And they were asked, when both of them won the Oscar, where were you at in life? And Nicole Kidman was like, I was probably the saddest I've ever been. I went home after winning an Oscar and thought, I need to start a real life. Like, and that's so true. - Wow. - You have to have people around you. - Period, that's what it is. It's good relationships in your life because they actually did accomplish a lot of their dreams, but then they outgrow the people around them. - Yeah. - But then stayed with those people and then they're wondering why there's so much tension and why it feels wrong. It's like, 'cause baby, you've grown out of this. Your universe is pushing you away. - Look, obviously like we're so busy and we're working and there's women our age that are married and have children and so they're even busier. I like recently, usually I'm like, okay, my friends know we're friends. I don't have to see them all the time and I don't have to text them all the time. But recently, I've been meant actively making a mental note of like, okay, I have to text Katie tomorrow because I haven't checked in on her in a few days. I'm like, okay, and I have to remember it's Alexa's birthday. We have to go out and do something to celebrate her birthday. I'm not letting a year go by and we didn't celebrate. You have to really, you get to a certain point in your life where you're like, okay, I've accomplished certain things. I've done certain things. What's really important and it really is community. Like it's the thing that keeps you living a long life. - Please, no, anywhere else, please. - At 35, you're 33, you're such a little baby. - I'm turning 34 in a month. - I know, but let's enjoy 33. - Yeah, let's. - But we do have small, the smallest circles we've ever had. - Teenzy, weenzy, weenzy. - Teenzy, weenzy. But if you've made it through, it's like when you're cooking pasta and what's it called, a sifter? - Okay. - I don't know, I went like a whole year at one of my apartments without a pasta strainer, a strainer. And I don't know what I use by ended up doing something that holds, anyway, I digress. - That's crazy. - The point is, yesterday I realized I don't have a potato masher. I thought, I'm an adult now. I just ordered a potato. - I didn't know that was the thing. - Yeah, to make mashed potatoes. - Oh, I thought she was like fork. - No, my mom uses like a thing that you-- - Oh, it has like waves, right? - Yeah, and it has like the little circle thing. - You're like, I call my mom and there is something people use for that. - Well, I used a meat cleaver instead. - Oh, Jesus, what is this? Did you see there's a new like monsters? Who does all the monsters feel? - I watched it, Lizzie Borden. - Yeah, who does it? What's it called? Who's the guy? - Ryan Murphy. - Yeah, what is this? Ryan Murphy. - Michelle, the meat cleaver. There's always a meat cleaver, some hot guy with the meat cleaver. - Wait, actually people were telling me to watch that Lizzie Borden show on-- - Was it good? - Yeah, I'm on her side. I would have killed my parents too. - Okay, you don't have to give it away. - They know, people know. - No, I'm just, that's what people do to me. So I was projecting. You see guys, that was projection. That was projection. - If I was her, I would have taken an axe to my set mom too. - I went to my friend, Ali's birthday party, where I feel like I don't know of a couple of years ago I would have gone. Am I to stop by? But it's like, I was at this time of my life where I'm like, she means the world to me. It's her birthday. I don't know if I know a lot of people there. I'm scared and I'm alone, but I'm gonna go because I'm an adult. - Wow, I just preached that two minutes ago and I was also invited to this birthday and I said, nope, not go. - Yeah, she's like, we're spinach. 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All these callbacks, we're out of control. - Wait, I'm just looking at my foot right now. - What's going on? - What's going on, scared. - And I had the most Hannah thing happened to me last night in bed. I'm like falling asleep. Like my eyes are closed. Like I'm, I literally, I took two Lemmy gummies. Like I'm falling, I'm going in. - You're not falling, I'm going in. - Two Lemmy gummies, I'll be up for a week. You have to call the police. - Wait, everyone's like, oh my god, you have the craziest dreams. And I'm like, it's actually the perfect sleep. But anyway. But the most Hannah thing happened to me in bed that I actually started laughing. I was like, this is so not my brand. This is so much more, I like moved my foot in the sheet and it like, my toenail, like caught, I was like, what the hell is this? My toenail like caught on the sheet. And I get my toes done every three weeks when I like, I get my nails done. - You got a nail, babe. Welcome to the party. - No Hannah. Then I like flip my leg up, okay. And I grab my toe with my hand. My eyes are still asleep, that's not Hannah coded 'cause I can't touch my toes but continue. She's like, I took my leg, put her on my neck. So I'm laying down, I flip my foot up, I grab my toe. My whole half my nail, I rip it off. I rip it off and I take it out from under the sheets and I'm looking at it. It's actually probably right here. - If I had a nickel. And I was like, oh my God, no I can't find it. I was like, this is so Hannah. - Can I say something in defense of toenails? Like when you hear someone loses their toenail, it sounds gross. The way I lose my toenails is very like shark teeth. There's always a toenail growing underneath. - You have a weird toe thing happening. - Well, my whole life playing tennis, the toenails go away, but I just have to say, I don't know if you guys have noticed, Paige has been overworked, having to put her little feet in these little tiny heels and like walk you around New York City. That's why your toenail fell off, babe. - Yeah, I was like, wait, when was my toenail falling off? I'm like, I've been-- - That's New York Fashion Week, babe. - I've been so busy, I didn't even notice my toenail was falling off, like, that's so numbing. I mean, inspecting my body, head to toe every seven minute. - I have a mirror that scans me. (laughing) - No, I would love that. - Beep, beep, abnormal pimple. - And I don't, UTI coming soon. Nipple hair found in a strange, very dark. - I do think about you a lot. - When you are shaving your nipples. - When I look in the mirror, like before I'm getting in the shower specifically, and I think, you know Hannah doesn't even look in the mirror. - No. - Like why do you have to stand here and like look at yourself before you get in the shower? - I'm growing on you. - You're really growing on me. I'm gonna try and not too. - Like a bacteria. - Like a foot fungus, if you will. - Speaking of feet, you know, like when you're staying up late, and you're like, it's already late, like it's 2 a.m. What is 3 a.m.? What is 4 a.m.? Like you're already up late. That's how I feel. - Same, except 5 a.m. - Different. - That's-- - 5 a.m.s morning. - You're just starting your work day. - Yeah. - Your hands are in emails already. But the way I feel about that is how I feel about like showing up to a shoot with you. Like if I'm not fully shaved, spray tan, it's like okay, why am I even trying? So I was naughty and I showed up to a shoot. My nails were done, which was like the bare minimum for you, but you know that was hard for me. - Totally. - Really on shaving, like dark nose, no spray tan, so I was uneven. No Hannah, you weren't just, your legs weren't just unshaven. It was almost as if you had been planning this and did it on purpose. - No, it could, it looks like, yeah, it looks like I was-- - How many, wait, how long was that? Scientifically a question of asking. - How long, not shaving? - Yeah, how many days or weeks was that on your legs? 'Cause I'm just trying to compare what? - What happens is sometimes I travel and then I can't find my razor and that's when I get really fucked. But the funniest part about it is, is you know I had full laser hair removal on both my legs for like nine months, didn't do anything. - Your hair grows slower than mine. Like I could never go as many days as you go. - You know what it is, 'cause two or three days, I'm like still okay and then I look down and I'm like that's like not human. - Yeah. - But then I didn't get my toes done and of course, wait, the shoe I ended up wearing was a clear shoot. Like it looks like for Cinderella and I'm like, this is, page is gonna throw up. - There's a difference between not getting your toes done and whatever the fuck you walked in with. Okay, there's a difference between a little paint chip and you putting your toes through a wood shipper and then presenting them to us in a heel. - I did lose half of my nail and I had grown out my toenails from the summer to where it actually looks like a French, I would say. 'Cause it was like white that had been grown out. - It was diabolical but my thing was, it would have taken too much work for me to get all that together that I was just like, let's just, she'll see it, she'll get mad and then we'll move on. - You know, I think because you played a sport when you were younger, you weren't ever just home in your room being like, what can I do today? Because Lunora seems like you were scheduled. You were scheduled. - Every second of the day, Lunora had a place I needed to be. - Yeah, you were scheduled. You did a sport. You did that sport every single day. I was over here like maybe I'll do gymnastics this week. Maybe like, I don't wanna be a girl scout anymore. - I had my brand, I need to rebrand for seventh grade. - Yeah, I'm like, I'm not tap jazz and ballet anymore, mom. Get it together, we're doing something new. So I feel like I had a lot of time to be like in my room and I also had a very girly mom. So like my mom never went, even to this day, my mom does not go get her nails and toes done. Well, she gets her toes done, but she doesn't get her nails done. She does them herself. So I learned how to do my nails. I was doing French manicures in third grade. Like I could do the line. - The women stem of the week. - Yeah, like we were at home prepping. I don't know what we were prepping for. You were Alex Earl's little sister, Isabelle. - Yeah, like I was doing, like I was doing my nails. Like I was getting out of the shower. She was putting my hair in like foam rollers. I was falling asleep, waking up for school, taking them out. - Once a year, I would get my nails done because Nana got her claws in me. And like I found myself having a full day like shopping with Nana and we always end up and she'd be like pick and she'd say pick a shade of red. - I love her. - No, I love her. - I love her so much. - You have to do a shade of red. And her nails were always done. My nails were never done. - Wait, I was actually just out of shoe and someone brought up like letting their hair go gray. And I go, my best friend wants to say let her hair go gray and not on my watch. - So you know my mom is letting her hair go gray, but she's in this like early period of it where it just looks like kind of like sparkles over her brown and this really beautiful woman stopped her at the US Open was like, I just wanna say your hair looks so good. The way it is so natural going gray. - Okay, but can I say something? - It's 'cause the North is beautiful. - No, Hannah, no, you're beautiful. Lenore's an intellectual. Like, you see Lenore and you're like so is Kim. Kim's a woman in STEM. - Yes, but see, Kim is a different type of intellectual. Like, Lenore is like was a principal. Like she, you know, like-- - She's in the rooms, she's in the rooms. - Yeah, like Lenore's like the New York Times. - Yeah. - Okay. Kim is like, oh my god. Kim is like the head mafia boss that you didn't know she was in charge. (laughing) - You thought it was this guy. It's really Kim in the back. Like that's her type of intellectual. - Why are you talking to him? You're gonna have to talk to me. She'll slit your throat. You didn't even know she was in the room. Like, there's so many times that I feel like in business, like people will like think that I'm doing something. But really, it's like, well my mom told me I actually did do that. - Do you know what my favorite thing is with me and you in business? People don't know who's in charge. - Oh, between you and I. - Like in a Zoom meeting, they don't know. 'Cause the second you think I know what I'm talking about, you come in and it's like Hannah shut up and you say something and then you get quiet for 40 minutes and they're like, she's not listening. Hannah's the one who's in charge. But then we flip. Like they don't know. - It's situational. - It is purely situational. It's 'cause we don't know who's in charge. - It's whoever has taken a liking to that project more. - Or like is in charge. - We're just always on the same page. So we're just like riffing, that it fun on the Zoom. And then afterwards we get on the call and we're like, that's a no, right? - So funny, because someone called me today. Okay, from our mutual person from both of our teams, called me today, gives me the scenario, runs me through everything. And I say something and she goes, okay, well Hannah said the opposite, said this. And I go, okay, well whatever Hannah said. (laughing) - Well it's funny 'cause she asked me and I was like, no, and she goes, well page to the other thing. I go, page doesn't give a shit. (laughing) I said, this is not something Paige is gonna fight for. So you're gonna listen to me right now.
- I go, I don't give a fuck, so I'm sure they said, "No, no, why are you calling?" - You said, yes, because you were like 50/50, I don't care. - Anywho, I digress, wait. - Yeah. - Since we're on the work theme, there's discourse on TikTok, specifically heavy and Gen Z and millennials. The argument is, do you show up to a job interview with a coffee, with an ice coffee? - If I'm doing like six job interviews that day, maybe, like if it's an emergency, like I'm like running and I'm feeling like shit. - Morning, no, it's like, you have a job interview at like 9/30. - Are you walking into the job interview, holding an iced coffee? - I don't, I wouldn't, but I also don't think I would like not hire someone because of it. - Okay, Hannah, that's exactly what I did. I put myself in the situation and I thought, no, I'm not walking in with an iced coffee. - 'Cause that's too much admin. Like, I need to worry about the task at hand. Like, what's my biggest weakness? Like, I can't. - Right, but if I'm the one hiring the person and someone walks in holding a coffee, I'm not even thinking about it. Like, I don't give a fuck. - It's a fun debate. Maybe I could judge them by their coffee. Like, if they came in with like a full frappuccino, I'd be like, are you mentally stable? 'Cause you're 34 and you're downing frappuccino. - Are you serious? Are you serious about the position or? - Is this the fucking joke to you? - No, if someone came in with like a full Starbucks frappuccino, I-- - Do you know why you used to get that for lunch? - I used to love those. - 'Cause we'd have like $10 for lunch and I'd be like, I could get a full chicken and broccoli like at the Chinese place or I could get a strawberry, caramel, white chocolate frappuccino extra large. And me and my friends would just be walking out with the bigger than our bodies. - Well at this age now, I think my first question would be like, do you take lactate or it's like you got situation? - Yeah, how are you taking that to the face right now? - I'd be more intrigued than annoyed. - Actually, I'd be like, you can handle hard things. - Yeah. I'm like, you have a stomach of steel? - You're a gladiator, you are gladiator. You're the pit bull from now on, okay? - 'Cause I run queasy. - You know, like, literally, it was 1 p.m. Paige's burps next to me, I go, you good? She goes, just me if I get my nose on my face. My normal midday nausea, don't worry about me. - The wind blows in the wrong way and I could get a little nauseous. - She was nervous about my existence. - Truly, you ever just get nervous about like, just like, what's the next? - I'm just like too aware of my existence. Like I'll just be, whenever I'm supposed to just be enjoying life, I always go. - And is this the life I'm supposed to be? Like, do we just, for one second, not analyze it? - I'll be like, no, it's so bad. - No. - It's so bad. Do you feel like everyone does that though? - No, I don't. - Like, you're ever in a situation that like, only you put yourself in that situation. There's no one else to blame and you're just like, this is what I really want that. - This might be selfish, but I do think I'm also neurodivergent where like, even in school like, I remember everyone else are just like watching the teacher or like watching, and I would be watching everyone else watch the teacher. Like I was the one that's not in the moment. Like I was thinking about them. - You're an anthropologist. - Sorry, that looks like sociology. - Yes, sorry you love to study people. - I have crazy news for you. And I can't believe this is three episodes in that we're still talking about high-drocks. First of all, it's not high-drocks, it's high-rocks. - Who gives a f***? - I have to tell you some of it's really upsetting you have to brace yourself. - No. - And also this, as a millennial, this is the most millennial offensive thing I've ever heard. High-rocks stands for hybrid rock star. - What the fuck are they talking about? What's a hybrid rock star? - It's like, girl bus, like Busy Poppin, kick ass. It'd work out. - What? - She's a girl's cheetah sisters. - Hybrid rock star. I'm confused by the branding. I do support any woman who does this 'cause I love female athletes. However, who's, I need to know the story behind this. We'll talk about it next episode. - I'm googling it right now. The high-rocks origin. - 'Cause there's no rock stars involved. It's not a music thing. - It's okay, because it was charity or something. - It was started in Germany. - It's okay. - Oh, it's okay. - Okay, that's cool. - It's okay. And that's for them, and it was founded in 2017 by a two-time Olympic gold medalist. And that's fine. It was the first high-rocks event took place in Hamburg in 2017. - No, but the fact that it's German, it means that it also, like, I wonder what the German translation is. - That's scary. (laughing) - Anyway, if you ever did Jennifer Hudson's, I was gonna say Walker Shame, but like. - Hannah? Hannah, I got asked. Hannah, I got asked. - Wait, wait. - And yep, and I know exactly what you're gonna ask. What am I doing when I'm walking down the aisle for when they're dancing? And you wanna know what? I said, sorry, I can't come, because I have a prior commitment, which I did. But in my head, I was like, no, I can't go on that show. I'm dancing down the line. - Well, this is my question. Some people dance, and I was like, I'm like, that's good. Then some people dance, you're like, that's bad. But then some people, and you know, I'm like, I have a lot of false confidence. Some people, I'm pretty sure, just go and think, I'll come up with it as I go. And it's crazy. Like, I would have to plan what my moves are gonna be. I'm not just gonna let the music take me. - Okay, but what if what you planned isn't the beat of the song they do? And then all of a sudden, you're doing the Macarena, and they're singing "Cat and I Joe." Like, then what do you do? - I think I would do the worm. - No, it's a quick walk. And the worm's going backwards. You have to go forward. - So many good points are being made right now. - No, I literally, I said I love Jennifer Hudson. I can't make it work with my schedule right now. But honestly, I was too nervous, 'cause I don't want to do the wah-haw. - But you would do it all shy. You'd be like, "Hey," and you'd do a spin. You'd do one twirl. - That's actually a good idea. - Yeah, yeah. What I'm saying is, if you did it, we'd have to choreograph it. And it's okay if it's not on the beat, as long as you commit to something, 'cause some people go, and they're flailing, and I'm like, "You didn't think this one through?" - Yeah, no, it's all I thought about when I saw the email. It's all I thought about. - Do they make up a song? They make one up. - Yeah, that's where they get, yeah. 'Cause you're like, you're like a four beat? - A four beat and four beat. - An eight beat? I don't know anything about music. - Yeah, I feel like that's-- - I also did, I'm gonna put this in the ether. I did have a "Dancing with the Stars" pro, DM me. - I heard. - And I'm gonna protect the identity because we don't need to get into semantics. But "Dancing with the Stars" is, you guys, that's the one thing that I actually don't believe in myself about. And I know it's not about winning, it's about like trying new things, but like I have had to page try new things. - Right, it's about putting yourself out of your comfort zone. Okay, leaving the house is out of my god damn comfort zone. You ever have a panic attack in a grocery store? Let me tell you, it's exhilarating. - But the funny thing is, if I could do the splits, I would've done "Dancing with the Stars" 10 years ago. - Yeah, well, if I could do the splits, I would've done a lot of things. - The splits. - The splits, I wouldn't be here right now. (laughing) - Fuck you, and this podcast. I have a yacht right now, but unfortunately, I have really tight hips. - In the, like Alex Earl reality show, there's like a clip that she said, like she's talking about like her dad, like buying her boob job. And he said, like, oh, well, like I knew it was going to be an investment in your future. And in my head, I'm like, how many girls watch that and looked at their dad and was like, see? Like it's like, could be something, you know? - Oh, I know, I don't want people to feel that way. - No, I know. - I know, Paige doesn't have boobs, you guys, and she's done really well up until this point. - No, I haven't. (laughing) Oh, I mean, no. (laughing) - That was a Freudian. (laughing) And guys, I have boobs and I don't even show 'em. - I really can't take the stress of a boob job. Maybe like after a child, okay. - Do you want to tell them how much you loved me because I was wearing, I was showing my boobs on the other day? - No, so many things happened that day for me to like be drawn to you. One, I picked out, I was lowest on Friday. - Wait, so am I fun to like do a makeover for it? Do you feel like I'm Sandra Bullock and Miss Congeniality? - I got to pick out your outfit. And I was like, yeah, she's a cool-tone girl, put her in the silver. So I got to pick out your outfit. Like your hair was done the way I wanted. Your makeup looked the way I liked. And like your boobs were pushed up to the sky. And I was like, yes. - That's what I love. - I love it. And you were walking around in heels all day. It was just like, I was like, I get lowest. Like a getter. - So Jeannie on her TikTok is now doing a, like, stuff lowest said today, series. And it's really good. So, lowest is a star. Lowest is a star.
- Um, I have a question for you. - Yes. - When was the last time you listened to your own voicemail? - Like my answering machine? - Yeah. - I don't have one. - Do I have one? - I don't think so. - Okay, 'cause I got really worried today. - Wait, should I call you? - Yeah. - Yeah, okay, and just decline it. - Put it on speaker. I'm so scared right now, you guys. Are you for a real Taylor? - Press decline, you nimble. (laughing) - We're just gonna sit here on the gov. Obviously you're not answering. I mean, what the hell is wrong with you? - Press. - I didn't reach the voicemail kind of burner. - Please leave me a message. - You don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. - Who is that? I'm 16. - Wait, why the fuck do you, wait, call mine, call mine, call mine. (laughing) - How did that transfer over? - Your call has been full. - Yeah. - Like a normal person. - Did you know how important people have called my phone? Why did no one tell me that that was my voicemail? - Do you not get like prank phone calls? Because I feel like I get so many people that will get my number and they'll call me, but then they're nervous 'cause the answer machine, they're like, is it her? I mean, with you, they're like, yeah, this is the thing. - Oh, that explains a lot of text messages I've got. - For sure. - Actually, it's so funny because I am this close. I think I'm changing my number. - That's actual fame. - One, it's low-key iconic. Two, it's actually, I think a safety thing for me. It's not like, I just feel too many people have my number that like, it's too much. - Well, that sounds freeing as fuck. I think everyone, once you turn 35, should change your phone number. - Well, yeah, I have had the same phone numbers in high school. - 40 guys' names and thins after it, still in my phone. - Yeah. - Like, that's unnecessary. - I'm like, and then I like wanted to delete contacts the other day 'cause I'm like, I don't even room, I don't even know who this person is. Wait, are you ever on TikTok? And it's like, your friend from your phone book? - Mm-hmm. - I'm like, who is? I'm like, no, there's no way I have her number. I don't know who this is. - I don't like deleting contacts 'cause I like to know who's bothering me. - Yeah, that's true. - 'Cause when you don't know who you go, who is this and they tell, and you're like, oh my God. Oh my God. - I just, I don't answer. - We used to have voicemails. I remember my, I was like, giggling or something. And my dad was like, okay, you have to get a job. Like, you can't have a giggling voice mail. And I'm like, okay, so I think that was from when I was like 21. 'Cause you guys know I don't do admin. I'm not-- - Yeah, you're not really rude. - I don't even know to Apple phones let you change your voice. Like, I don't even know how to get to it. - Well, but if this is permanent for me now, this is like, this is your blueprint in history. - Hi, this is Hannah Brown. I think they're calling me the message. - But do you get spam every day? - Maybe like one or two. - Like, I get called every single day, no matter what, at least three times a day. - I will never pick up a number. - Yeah, no. And it's like, you're alone in and I'm like, okay. - But my problem is 'cause I don't pick up unknown numbers. I miss important deliveries. I miss like someone who needs help, like I miss all the important phone calls. - You ever take a chance and you just answer the unknown and then you're like, fuck, like, why did I? - There's a mortgage that we'd like it on like, aw. - Aw. - Or it's someone you know and you're like, fuck. (laughing) - Oh gosh, woman in some of the week is actually, not my lowest, but a different lowest. Her name's Lois Gibson. And she's the greatest sketch artist of all time. When she was young, she was almost killed by a serial killer and she was so traumatized. But because she remembered little details about his face, it helped them solve it or something. Regardless, she was like obsessed with the process of how to find these men. So she's extremely good at drawing and she's like, she's helped find over 750 criminals 'cause she's so good at like when people tell her draw, it's like a weird, it's a weird crazy skill. She's like in a book world record. So shout out to Lois Gibson. - How old is she? - I actually don't know, I was like Googling it. - You know, I always wondered if that was like a real thing like sketch artist for like the police. I'm like, but how do they know? - In 1971, she was 21 years old. So she's like in her 70s now. - Wait, that is so crazy because here's the other thing. If I'm in the police station and I'm describing someone, I'm not giving good described. I'm like, she's got a fuck ass face because. - Well, that's like when you ask your friend to describe like a guy they're seeing, they're like, he's nice. - Yeah. - I'm like, he's ugly. Let me tell me what he really looks like. You know, when they're like, he has really got a heart, he's kind, he's sweet. And then they show you like a photo of him in the dark and you're like, show me the photo of him. - I always like wonder, what is the photo that people like show of me? Like what's the photo? Like people show of me. You're like, I need to know. No, I need to know, like I need to know like X's that have like, like that are with their friends and like they're, that I just come up in the conversation but I've, they've never met me. Like I want to know like, oh, what's the photo they show when they go to my Instagram? Like, oh, that was hard. - Maybe just like one of the newest photos he posted. - I would hope so. PSA, if you guys are showing me my photo, like make sure it's one of like the top three in my grid. - Because those are the ones that I'm like most loving. - The pin one is a good one to use. - Yeah, maybe like the pin one, like Amy Puller's in that picture too, and like you could show that around. - There's no easy way to segue this, but it is officially fall. And I know a lot of the girls are wearing capris, but as someone who has bought capris in TikTok shop, Amazon, Nomura Kamali, they're not all created equal. What capris are you recommending? Just like as a normal black capri. Like you could wear your little lemons. Like what are you wearing? - I have two that I'm rotate, that I always rotate between. - One are my Amazon ones that I tried and true that my first pair of capris that I love. They have a little cuff on the bottom. And my second one are like a more stretchy one. They're from Hellse. I got them in the beginning of the summer and I've worn them with everything. But it's not necessarily like the brand. Capris aren't all made equally in terms of your own body. - Yeah, like your foot. - Yeah, you have to find what Capri's length for your legs is the best. Like I'm no good right under the name. - Oh, I'm no good. - Really? - I need to go a little bit lower on my shin. - Oh, see like a three quarter quarter. - Well, I just think it looks better with my body type. - Hmm. See how I need right over the knee because I need to try to elongate whatever's going on. Or if I've been doing around soul time, fuck. - I feel like if you're under right under the knee to chopping you, because it's giving like a block of skin, block of Capri block of. You need your legs to look a little bit longer. So I think you should go a little longer. - Holy shit. - You should go more of like a cigarette pan. - But this is the thing with my body type. Cigarette pan is kind of straight and I need more curves. But actually, you know, I haven't figured out jeans. - More of a kick flare on the bottom. - You love saying click, kick flare. You started this whole pod just so you could end it by saying kick flare. - I actually started to daff me the brand just so I could say kick flare. - And we use it all the day every meeting. - Legs sometimes will be like, it's kick flare into my. - Kick flare the week. You guys, thank you so much for giggling. - Wait, that was so quick. - Do you have anything else to bring on your docket? - No, I mean, I guess I'll see you guys for a day. - Yeah, I guess we'll see you later. We love you so much and have the most beautiful week. Bye. (upbeat music)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast features a mix of personal anecdotes, humor, and observations on relationships, mental health, and living authentically, with themes of self-worth, resilience, and community.
Hosts share stories about their pets, routines, health habits, and challenges—such as UTIs, nail issues, and emotional stress—highlighting vulnerability and the importance of self-care.
Discussions include cultural commentary on Gen Z and millennial trends, such as the misuse of "high-rocks" as a term for women in sports, and deeper reflection on how societal expectations shape identity and success.
Summary:
The podcast blends personal storytelling with sharp cultural commentary, exploring themes of self-identity, mental health, and resilience. Hosts share intimate moments—like a toenail incident, UTI prevention, and struggles with anxiety—while laughing at their quirks and daily absurdities. The conversation touches on relationships, motherhood, body image, and the pressures of fame, especially in the context of reality TV and social media.
There’s a recurring emphasis on authenticity and community, with guests reflecting on how societal norms, like the "high-rocks" trend or constant digital exposure, can distort self-worth. Health and wellness are woven throughout, from hydration and supplements to the emotional impact of losing loved ones. A central theme is the value of staying true to oneself despite external judgment, with humor and vulnerability serving as tools for connection.
The hosts also discuss practical life choices—like changing phone numbers or choosing the right capris—highlighting how small decisions reflect deeper values. Ultimately, the conversation celebrates resilience, personal growth, and the importance of community in navigating life’s chaos, especially as people age and reassess their priorities. The tone remains warm, self-deprecating, and deeply human, offering both entertainment and insight.
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The dog barks at people in hats, people running swiftly, or any type of commotion, including people with guns or horses.
The cat gets upset when there's a ball on the TV that isn't in its mouth, which explains why it fights with other cats.
They believe their body instinctively rejected every man they dated, and they attribute this to a strong intuition that protected them from unhealthy relationships.
The speaker took a high-dose cranberry supplement and a rosemary-honey blend, which they say were life-changing and helped with their chronic pain and UTI issues.
They avoid it because their freezer is broken, and they prefer to drink from it without ice, despite being dehydrated.
It originated in Germany in 2017 as a charity event founded by a two-time Olympic gold medalist, and it stands for 'hybrid rock star,' not related to music.
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