The host recounts a deeply personal and stressful experience involving an unintended side effect from a Botox injection for TMJ pain, which severely disrupted his ability to smile and left him emotionally and mentally overwhelmed. He describes the physical and psychological toll, including anxiety, self-blame, and a loss of control over his facial expressions, which he sees as a humbling moment that exposed deeper vulnerabilities. The experience led him to reflect on gendered expectations around smiling, the importance of emotional authenticity, and the value of community and support—particularly within the gigglers network. He shares how this ordeal prompted a shift in self-perception, leading to greater self-awareness, resilience, and openness about mental health. Alongside personal insights, he touches on broader social themes like safety in public spaces, Hollywood relationships, and the impact of personal choices. Ultimately, he concludes with faith, gratitude, and optimism, emphasizing that despite the discomfort, the experience has deepened his connection to others and affirmed the importance of vulnerability, growth, and community in navigating life’s challenges. He ends with a message of hope, affirming that healing and self-acceptance are possible through shared experience and mutual support.
what's up gigglers gary fix the wi-fi manifest that shit we can't be managed
i mean the day just got away from me you guys i have to have an i have to have an emergency
press conference right now i can't believe this is happening i cannot no i believe i'm in shock
i've been going through something and it's not funny and it's and it's not funny it hasn't been
funny i haven't laughed about it page has been getting a kick out of my life which you know what
if that's the one joy that we get out of this i'll just let it i'll let it i'll let it fly
i'll let i'll let it go this is me now this is me
this is the equivalent of like your friend mispronounces a word forever for the rest of
your guys and it's not funny so okay so so start from the top start from the beginning
yeah and one thing i do want to say about giggly squad is we'd love to say that we live and we
learn but we don't we don't we don't learn from each other's mistakes we don't learn from our
own mistakes and this is supposed to be a forum
where we talk about our shared experiences so that other people can relate or not relate and
we learn collectively and as the host of this show we haven't learned a goddamn
not a goddamn thing now one thing about the gigglers is they know me better than anyone
better than my own almost my own mother who betrayed me last week
yeah also the hardest part about this was not telling the gigglers like
every second of this it actually was driving me insane we had a call about it we had a literal
call about it we had to cut like moments of the past two pods where i like started talking about
it but we i'm like i can't hold it in anymore two weeks ago i innocently went to get masseter
disport for my tmj yeah you guys know me i don't do both
botox i however have gotten master botox twice you guys know that and i went to a new place
was it a groupon no but was it but i probably done more research if it was groupon
was it under the umbrella of groupon some would say it had the same energy was it convenient
and i didn't look up anything yes so i get there and i'm like i'd love to get some
botox and the lady was like what did you get last time and i was like whoa i'm not a woman in stem
like i don't yeah i have no idea what happened my chart because i don't know and she was like we
don't do charts here and i was like of course you don't know but she was like is it disport is it
zealman is it but i was like i literally have no idea i'm not a botox girly i just i clench my teeth
really bad and i wake up with headaches sometimes because you know i'm a woman of the arts and i
yeah god forbid someone has a little anxiety
around a little trauma and i i some people have it in their hips i do too but it's also in my jaw
and i did not know there were risks to this procedure i've never heard of a risk i didn't
even know this could happen so she uses disport and i she was kind of messing around a little
too long back there like you know when they're like making it i guess and i remember something
in my soul was like get out of here you had a gut feeling 34 years old the people please
her on me she's still strong even though no one's really pleased with me she's still working hard
and i remember thinking like what could go wrong she's just like what your masters are
a little too weak whatever she puts it in we're great we're key king thank you so much love you bye
i'm going to the us open golf a couple days later by the way i'm great
living life actually one of the highest moments of my life probably things are going
well nice my friendships are great my family's healthy and great besides grandpa and everything
is working my career is doing well and i was like you're gonna have a spectacular summer
we truly are and i wake up that morning and i try to smile and it it feels kind of tight
and i thought i had like dry skin or something and i so i put lotion on like maybe i have dry skin
yeah it's so weird so then i i do this interview and i'm like still feeling kind of weird and then
i'm like oh my god is it possible that the poison that was injected in my face is now
gonna ruin my face would this be the repercussions of my own actions in real time
and it's a very humbling experience no so then two days go by i call page she's like what was
your experience i was just in shock that you would just do this on a whim go to like a new
place randomly does that shock you kind of because like i you want to know what i look at you as my
shepherd like you're leading and so once you've gone astray i'm like but i'm not leading you in
any beauty type stuff no but you do lead in
like sanity yeah don't do that that's that's wrong i was arguably getting a um medical procedure done
it was not cosmetic it was literally medical and i did not know this i literally did not know this
could happen so i call page actually it was really funny do the smile
let's like really take a look see in a gander while we're dealing with this is as much as i
could smile you guys and don't screenshot that page so how dare you swear to god i swear to god
post it and also you guys don't make me the face of botox mishaps i i love my natural face i love
my natural movements and i remember telling the lady i was like by the way i do on camera stuff
because i'm humble you know i'm not like by the way my podcast is you know very popular they don't
care i said it's on camera i really need my face to
move she's like yeah it's botox it just it disport helps with the tension of your jaw
so i call the lady who did it and she's like hey how y'all doing and i was like i'm kind of
freaking out the smile is kind of shorter than it should be it's a bit wonky it's not for me love
it's not for me so she sweet sweet sweet girl first she was like it's gonna get
better don't worry like it'll get better and let me just preface we would never shame the girls
who did this to us also a girl has never done anything wrong it was our choice
so this sweet girl it was her birthday
but she in the beginning it actually wasn't this bad i just was like i feel like something's off
and she was like yeah don't worry just like smile a lot or whatever i was like cool cool cool
so then i told her just you know like two weeks do you think it'd be better because um
i actually have a huge job job coming up in toronto that i'm super excited about and she
was like why didn't you tell me that she was like two weeks it's gonna peak babe but also i was like
sorry i didn't give you my resume like i don't know like you should always assume the person's
face needs to work yeah is important in this in this equation yeah
and she was like so it's a day i'm like it's three weeks of a gig
so she starts freaking out it's the last person you want freaking out i'm basically like what
can i do and she's like try to smile a lot so then i go to a girl in west hampton and she's like look
and i've looked all over in line she's like you have to wait it out but i will try to put
saline solution in your face so then i go and get saline solution injected all in my face yeah
did that help i don't think so okay
now mind you intermittently i'm getting facetimes where hannah is giving me different facts at one
point she says did you know that that's scientifically studied if you can't smile
you will go into a depression okay so guys this is the mental fatigue
at one point at one point she goes i went back to the podcast when this happened to you and i listened
more closely i go okay good to know when i was going through something you were like yeah yeah
your vein get over it so i go to pilates just trying to live a normal life and i was kind of
in hiding in west hampton but i go to pilates and my pilates instructor is laughing at me but i'm
like whatever so i'm about to start my pilates class and the girl next to me is like oh that was
me
i just i just lost a muscle something just like fell off and i was like and i was like hey and
she's like i'm a giggler and i'm like nice to meet you and then i looked in the mirror because
and it looks like i was looking at her like you fucking freak like why would you talk to me
so we're like about to start and i'm like by the way i just got weird uh masseter botox i can't
smile i'm not being rude i swear and she's like no problem no problem after the show a bunch of
after the show no problem you fucking bitch no i'm literally like nice to meet you thanks for
listening to my podcast and this is what's insane is i'm low-key the smiliest person ever
like i would get my liest i would get made fun of as a kid for like always giggling always smiling
to the point that like i smile too much i've never been more aware
i love a mercy smile a fake laugh you're a nervous smile i'm a nervous laugher yeah i
smile and laugh for everything so then after the class a bunch of gigglers came up to me
and i'm trying to navigate it but in my head i can't process what they're saying because i'm
thinking that they think that i'm being like not cool with a freak a freak so then i tell all of
them but now i'm like i'm i feel like lindsey lohan and me girls i'm like i i can't stop talking
about it so like every one of them like i'm like i can't stop talking about it so i'm like i can't
stop talking about it so i'm like by the way and then the blind structure threw me in the sauna and
i'm just like in the sauna just like alone with my thoughts googling it and people are like
this happened to me and i couldn't smile for six months and i was in the darkest place
and then it's really it is it's very humbling i try not to look at the comments really ever
because i don't like when comments like affect our creativity but um right so i'm like i'm not
but um right i was like let me just check the giggly youtube to see if people are on to me
yeah and there was one person that was like literally no shade no tea love hannah something's
going on someone responded was like no shade no tea don't speak about women's bodies she's probably
going through something it could be anxiety like she's going through really hard times like you
just froze your face in anxiety like you're so nervous you can't move but someone was so sweet
they were like please you don't know why you're so nervous you can't move you can't move you can't move
what hannah's going through or why and i said period and that's valid there was more things
like guys this is fucking weird and then i'm i'm a talker like when something's worrisome to me or
i'm stressed about something i need to talk about it so i'm i feel like this is therapeutic for me
because i've been i've been hiding because i've been trying to fix it and i also leave tonight
for one of the bigger gigs of my life
in toronto hosting a tv show now are there a ton of comedians who don't smile yes a lot of male
comedians some stern female comedians are there a lot of celebs who get too much botox and their
face doesn't move yes i have to navigate the next three weeks the good news is i think after three
weeks it'll loosen up a little bit i have a very high metabolism yes you do i do i'm and
we know that you have short-term muscles what are they fast twitch muscles fast rich muscles
also there's levels to this because now you guys realize i went to see my mom because i was in a
dark place and thank god for my family this weekend they literally wait till my dad hears
about this gary's gonna fucking kill me but low-key like i look so good mogging yeah i did
point out that i'm a little bit more mature than most people i'm a little bit more mature than most
people at one point i was like your career your occupation is comedian just throwing that out
there so like smiling is a prerequisite and part of the gig unless you're you're sarcastic right
and some would say i'm funnier when i when i don't laugh at my own jokes which you know is my favorite
thing to do yeah i mean that's why i wake up in the morning literally the only thing i do um but
it is getting better
i think yeah do you think it's better as from the last pod we did so the other night i think i
worded it as it's different okay it's not as your your lip your top lip at one point was really
going up yeah it was going really high yeah it's definitely widened which makes me think that these
their muscles are kind of like chilling out a little bit because we want it to be wider
sorry i'm so depressed right now i just i actually was like just breathe and this is the thing when
stuff like this happens to you in your life it's not about what happens to you it's how you react
to it and have i reacted to a great no have i been pushing people away because i can't stop talking
about it and have i been up all night on reddit trying to find people who have experienced the
same thing and actually not and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh
i'm not doing finding that many situations this is extremely rare what's happening to me i don't
know why it happened to me but then i think big picture i don't have cancer i thought you were
gonna say i don't have kids it's like okay that's a good turn butter is alive yep i still have my
brain i i'm tan right now and it's this is temporary yes wait tell them what your mom said
she was like are you okay and i'm like this is
me smiling oh no she goes maybe don't maybe don't smile just don't smile but it also makes me
realize how like i feel like if i was a man this wouldn't affect me as much i feel like men go i
was even watching some like male basketball podcasts and like none of them smile they all
just kind of like talk shit and like no one's they don't really laugh at each other that much
and i'm like i just have to pretend i'm like a male podcaster they don't have as much criticism
well women are always like smile smile be
be pleasant smile but i'm also interacting with like uber drivers and everyday everyday life and
i'm like buying something at the store and i'm like they think i'm a bitch bitch the good news
is my speech is like improving me and hannah were straight up role playing last night because i was
like okay give me a monologue and i won't look at you and let me see if it sounds different and you
sounded great thank you when i enunciate and speak slower yes
so anyway the reason i went to hang out with my parents this last weekend was for emotional
support and thank god they were there for me they were amazing but that's why my mom was like
maybe you come watch me do the national anthem and i was like i need to get out of the house
like i have to stop ruminating about this and that's why when i was running and going through
all that torture there was like other levels to it that i was upset about
mind you i posted the photo of the 5k my mom tricked me into running which we'll post on the
or apple video if you get it everyone was mad about my shoes oh honey i didn't even see them
everyone's mad about my shoes they were my coco golf tennis shoes that i wore because i thought
we were walking to the race also yes i was holding two arizona ice teas and a banana because they
were free who's mad about two arizona ice teas and a banana that sounds like anytime someone
says arizona ice tea i'm in yeah yeah i'm yeah i'm coming yeah arizona i see i've never had a
time i'll have a sip never finished one do you know how fucking big some of them are mass they're
huge like bazookas so um that's why i also look so miserable because i can't smile so it was like
it was a lot but i do have to say even though i've made fun of my mom so much she's been
my rock in all of this and lenore has been very very great about it like because you know when
you're you don't want to stress other people out you know see when i was going through this
i was like everyone should be at the same exact stress level i'm at because this is a code red
people we have a serious problem on our hands this is emergency press conference code red i need the
gigglers love and support more than ever right now you know when they say like like something bad
happens to your life and like the world just keeps spinning and like people just keep going about
their days that's how i felt i was like guys how are you waking up and going to work i can't move
my mouth no
it's crazy also and that's have like a high thought but like how you can experience life
so differently like my life right now is literally just me navigating my smile and that's all i care
about that's all i think about when i talk to someone i look at their smile and you guys i
it's like when you have a cold and you're like i would give anything to be able to breathe through
my nostril right now yeah that's how i feel i'm like if i could smile again i i don't care
but then i humbling and it puts life into perspective i truly think
it's like a sign from god to both of us like don't do it i told you not to do it yeah you
guys went and did it and and it's not for you i don't think it's for us because i think there's
this larger plan that we are like amazing actresses and we must be able to move our face
we must have expression we must also i i was afraid i put a hex on myself because the next one
sometimes i feel like people like siphon my energy and they get the outcome
that i actually deserve this is like out of some karmic shit you did because you know i've been
clean okay so now i
i'm getting blamed for your karma okay because i don't have enough of my own to deal with
no we are fully connected right now we're both on our periods like we are the same thing
hannah and i also literally hannah got her period last night i got mine this morning
so this is insane guys i got for the first time ever i got my period on a red eye what does that
mean
wait i went to my astrologer today did you talk to them yeah what they say about my smile
oh yeah you're a fuck
he started it out saying everyone goes into nine year cycles the hardest years are year two and
year seven you are currently in your year seven and i was like perfect but i feel like you've
been having a good year i feel like i have been too and he was like
you're a fuck and i'm like what the fuck are you talking about
but i rather you be in your bad year now because it's like it's like coming it's almost over
because next year is like the best most amazing year for you and i was like amazing and he was
like your manifestation powers next year off the charts he recorded it and he sends it to you
and i'll put his name in our newsletter it was transformational it was one of the best readings
because i haven't had a reading with him in six years i haven't had a reading with him in six years
he goes the last time i talked to you was 2020 and i was like which is crazy because it feels like
yesterday and everything he said in that reading like happened he was like how motivated were you
like months after we talked and i was like my career completely changed and i broke up with
my boyfriend but he was like it was one of the most transformational things that you needed to
go with go through to like get this motivation did you learn anything else new i learned a lot
learned that um what did i learn
you actually five hundred dollars later i have to re-listen because you like black
out when you're doing it because it's so much information here's the thing sometimes when
you're going to like psychics or mediums or astrologers you have to like come up with your
own questions and whether you're doing it for like 30 minutes or an hour this guy i'm not kidding
this guy talked
for one full hour he was like stop me at any time if you have questions is he also like a medium
or he's just reading your chart astrologer he's reading my chart astrologer i'm trying to think
of like certain he just said like certain things about my not one thing about me nothing about
partnerships nothing about business partnerships nothing about giggles nothing about smiles um
disport yeah he did say that like next year because it's my manifestation year it's just
like everything i've ever wanted which is like giggly squat he did say
about like giggly squat this year i'm gonna have to offline about something i have to re-listen
because i blacked out during it and sorry i put you on the spot i put you on the spot also
it's hippa like that was crazy of me also you know like that was a doctor that was insane
like we talked about my fertility it was like that was insane he said that there was one unique
thing in my chart because he was like yeah typically i can see when motherhood like where
there's a gap in a chart that would mean like that's when you're starting to have kids he was
motherhood is like such a strong part of your existence and like your chart you can start you
have free range to start and stop whenever you want because once you start it's your whole life
like it's your he was like it's actually the first time you ever feel fulfilled no i'm gonna
wait that's the saddest thing i've ever heard he also said it's the first time i ever feel like my
love is going to like something worthy of it and i'm like so scorpia you are so no i'm gonna cry
you're gonna love your baby so much not as much as daphne but like you will right you will so
anyway there's that he did say there were three different spots where i could get married and one
was in 10 years and i was like clip goodbye bye-bye i am i actually want to book him
and he'll be like can you please stop asking me about how long disport lasts he does like what's
going on this year what's happening this like next three months and then like what's happening
next year for you anyways i honestly feel like i have a huge monkey off my back just telling the
gigglers i feel lighter than ever but i need everyone i've turned to religion i've turned
fully to religion i need everyone to pray to saint anthony you want to know what it is to find my
you said you were agnostic and god said oh really i think you'll be praying to me soon
no i'm fully religious i'm i'm mormon i believe in joseph white or whatever salamanders i believe
in it all and i need i need the power of prayer i need the nuns the sister nuns hi sisters
hi sister and you're so good at that sister please please pray are nuns allowed to get botox
i'm sure they're i'm sure there's nothing wrong with that i'm sure there's nothing wrong with that
in the bible against it but it seems like a material item that they wouldn't care about
um i saw this video today and it was this mom asking her daughter a question and i want to
see like what your initial answer is to it because i had my initial answer while i was watching it
and she asked her if a guy came up to you and asked to ask you for help lifting something into
his car what would you say a stranger
yes
what's your initial thought hell no yeah nope when he says yeah hey can you help me lift this
into my car well okay there's a lot of scenarios when in new york city if a man like even says like
can i have the time or whatever i'm like no thank you i just say no thank you
like i don't want to be kidnapped okay say let's say it's not new york city walking down the street
because you're right that is like so this is like a neighborhood thing let's say you're in
a parking lot and you're in a parking lot and you're walking down the street and you're like
you're in a parking lot i say so sorry i'm running late so sorry i'm running late so sorry i'm running
late also just broke my hand okay that's so funny my hand's broken sorry my first i think the little
girl said like you don't have arms that work oh period slay but my initial reaction was
i just froze my eggs i can't lift anything
that was the first thing i thought
sorry i have a doctor's note actually and i can't sorry i'm i just got my period on a red eye
um also i'm be so real with you i would i would help him because i'm like not cool like i would
be like sure and then i'd be like we'd be like i'd be like is there a head in that bag and then
i'd be like can we just help the sun giggly squad it's gonna be so crazy but you i think maybe you're
helping because you didn't grow up in the suburbs where you didn't have to think no you grew up in
new york city what am i saying you had way more dangers oh no dangers everywhere
i if it i would try to get the vibe but also like i'll fight like i'd be like i'd love to i'd love to
fight this man right now well because when i saw the video i was i had a uh memory of my mom used
to do that to me all the time when i was younger like if you ever went yes if we ever went shopping
just the two of us which like that was all the time but if we like
the mall and the sun was down and we were walking to our car before we would leave the mall she
would get her keys out put them in between her finger and say okay you have to be alert i mean
this started from like five years old you have to be alert when you're in a parking lot you can
like you have to i mean this was before phone so this definitely didn't like help your anxiety
though but continue she's she's you know you take on the nervous system of your mother and
let me tell you parking lots are not good for us
she became fully wolverine kim wolverine she goes if someone comes up to you you say absolutely not
like she would grab my hand like with her other hand and she'd be like you just have to get to
the car you open the door you don't talk to any like it was very much a routine there's a crazy
story about my papa in brooklyn in like the 50s i guess and there's a story about he said he was
walking down the subway and some guy was walking down the subway and he was like oh my god i'm not
walking down the subway and some guy was walking up and he didn't like how the guy was looking at
him like he felt like the guy was gonna like rob him or something something so he broke his nose
and i i was like papa i feel like there were steps like what if the guy actually like what
if he got weird botox in his eye and that's like and he was like well i didn't want to find out i'm
like is that the other day i'm in albany i'm going on a walk in a park my parents walk in a
park i'm with my mom my brother's girlfriend were like walking all next to each other this guy
there's also like buildings around this park that are like convention center like some like random
whatever this guy like is coming around the corner from one of the buildings but he's walking
at me with a swift pace and i couldn't see his hand and his hand looked weird and i like was
looking over my shoulder like every two seconds because i didn't he was like really coming close
whatever passes me and, like, keeps going.
And. i just like looked around and i was like guys did anyone else think he was coming to stab me
also i love how you're like he was trying to stab me like not all you guys like don't be jealous
what guy like i go that guy looked like he was coming up from behind me and was gonna stab me
in the side eyes and ears stay alert the only person that came to my defense who was behind
me was my brother who said i saw that guy i was watching him i said because he looked like he had
a knife i do think that growing up in new york city there's so many crazy people running around
like like just with knives all the time that you're just kind of like they're just wielding
them you're just wielding knives at you know 7 a.m on a tuesday in times square and you're just
kind of like just stay alert um and but i've gotten myself in a lot of stupid situations
one more thing that i just remembered about my astrologist he said that your three signs also
have attached like child teenager adult oh and this was like when people say like you oh i have
an old soul that like really does mean something like you could legit have an old soul all three
of mine are adult and he was like you really don't like nonsense he would and he also said like
there's no part of me that's like a baby so like i'm never a cry baby if there's any a time where
i'm like feeling bad for myself or feel like a baby i snap out of it immediately because i'm
like get over it i'm kind of obsessed with you being born and you're like i don't do that wah
wah shit well he goes were you really mature as a child and i was like i literally was like i'm
not playing outside that's for kids i have business to do i'm a business woman i literally
created a fake a fake company like sorry don't do choice time i have meetings i was like i'm not
playing house
i have a board meeting in the living room get it together like what it was called teeter totter
company and i ran it like i that's so funny that's so interesting yeah that's so so interesting like
because like some people will always identify as children yeah and i don't you know it's weird and
this isn't a brag because i really think like we me and you both need to cry more i haven't cried
once during this experience i think more because i i deal with self-hate more than sadness so i've
more just been angry at myself i've just been like you stupid stupid dumb bitch host of the
podcast giggly squad deals with self-hate i guess it's not all giggle well no one wants to admit it's
a mental health pod because we don't market it that way we don't market it that way because
that'll scare people because everyone no one wants to talk about their own mental health
their mental health we're out here doing it i did see something that upset me we were talking about
javier bardem yes he's shooting a movie like making out with kate hudson all over new york city right
now i don't know how actors do it let's talk about it like if i was penelope cruz and i saw
kate hudson who we love by the way my other bestie yeah all over my husband pretending to be
love i'm like that you guys are all in fake relationships you're all cheaters you're all
in open relationships and just being like oh i'm just pretending to make out with him it's not real
i'm just pretending if i had a nickel and you know me i'm a trustworthy person i'm not i don't think
everyone's cheating like i always believe people absolutely not yeah how would you deal with your
man having three weeks where he's just like in love with kate hudson making out kissing
no and he goes babe this is my job no let's do role play i'm literally getting emotional and
annoyed you're not babe i've been i went to i went to france to study acting to get this role
with this amazing director i and i need to yeah it happens to be kate kate and i are friends
kate and i are just friends when i say i think all people are cheating i don't really mean that
i do i think there are
more professions that lead and lend itself to cheating like okay if you're a professional
athlete nine times out of ten i kind of think you're cheating or you have cheated or whatever
if you're an a-list actor yeah i think that like maybe you probably have also i think it has to be
something that it's such a unique situation that has to be talked about way before you get married
i mean the only thing is is that they're both actors so they both
have this brain and have been in situations where they have to do this so i don't think they see it
here's the other thing we've never been in a situation where we've been in a movie or a
television show where we're making out with someone i just like everything else i imagine
that it becomes so mundane and analytical in terms of the shot and works and they're a bunch
little freaks see i don't i think in some situations yes but i think the majority of
the time it is really work like if he came home every night being like oh fucking kate she's so
annoying i actually think that's a red flag oh i think if he's coming home and complaining about
someone i actually don't like that i'm playing chess checkers you're playing chess i'm like
wait she's like this much in your head that you like have feelings of dislike toward her you
should feel nothing oh you're you should feel nothing period you should feel nothing guys
yeah no my man is not coming home from work and telling me some story about
some woman that like is i think we're both correct in this in that yeah as always it's just if
because there's been multiple movies that people fall in love like brad and angelina
um also i did like one shoot with like a male model for tennis and we had to like be like
smiling at each other and like there was like a lot of like a lot of like a lot of like a lot of
like five minutes and i was like is that my husband that's the equivalent of like an airport crush
yeah it's like because in the moment and it's going to be over soon and i don't actually have
to know this person because he is probably a loser freak but like right now he's hot and
he's my husband in the airport but that's why you cheat because you're like i have a full family at
home this guy seems fun also page you did all those like romantic covers for like novels did
you ever have like i mean i know you're like 16 but like were there other
teenage boys that you had to like take photos with you know what no i never did any modeling
with boys that was in your contract kim put that in the contract no yeah oh you know what there
used to be this one store i don't even know if it's a store still it was called bob's like
department store bob's not bob's discount furniture no different because it sold clothes
and i remember i had like a week-long shoot in new york and there was a
boy my age i have no idea what his name is i could never even tell you what it looked like
but of course i had a crush on him yeah of course we had to hold hands i had never held hands before
i said yeah and you're mine now basically yeah and then i grew up and i said that in a scene
um do you think penelope cruz is at home being like she's blah kate's blonde so he's not i know
for a fact that penelope cruz is actually acting right now and in like a romance of her own
that she's acting like they're both doing the same thing that's their job you know the character
of the person that you're marrying you know deep down in your gut if they're gonna cheat on you or
not i feel like and i also feel like you know maybe because i'm just crazy intuition wise you
know when something's off i just also think people in hollywood are inherently like super insecure
because they have to have they have to be famous and have people think they're amazing
so like that's
that doesn't bode well for like having a relationship where the person's constantly
making out with other a-list actresses or actors i love the word bode actually i'm obsessed that i
said i've never said that before in my life no like i'm sick i love that like bode well it's
just like that could be the name of your son bode bode
wait you know what i want you to name your daughter
and you know what it is but you won't do it what ryan oh that's i want a girl named ryan i know it
and so it goes so well for your family i like the name like stevie and scotty and like frankie for
girls but i don't want them to have to be like my name's francine but call me frankie like i'm
really obsessed with them not having to waste like those seconds of their life constantly you know
what i think about a lot we're at the age now that we're at the age where we're like oh my god
now we're like our friends are naming kids we're thinking about kids names like kids are around
we're at we're at the age when i was younger i would always think like oh my god when it when
it's time for me to name my kids am i not going to be able to pick this name because i know someone
this name and like now i'm at the age and i'm like yeah i could never name a baby that
oh because i cringe at just the
like, sound of it.
No, it's bad because. Especially when you've, like, dated a bunch of guys.
They ruin every baby name for you.
Yeah.
Because then next thing you know, you're like, okay, now it reminds me of the guy who used to yell at his grandma.
Like, now, like, I can't just enjoy the name.
There was a baby name that I thought was so cute.
And I, like, always loved this name.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I was, like, dating someone.
And I, like, went through his phone or something.
And he was, like, texting a girl with this name.
And I was, like, I was, like, I thought you ruined my baby name.
I remember being so pissed.
I was, like, no, because I.
And then I was, like, no, I'll forget about it.
I'll forget about it.
No.
I didn't forget.
You didn't forget.
Also, I date guys with names that I like.
Like, I don't date guys with weird-ass names.
So, like, literally every good name I've fucking, I fucked.
Well, what are we supposed to just be out here changing men's names?
But then it's, like, what if I have a son?
And then that guy's, like, wow.
She's obsessed with me.
Hey, she named my son, her son after me.
I'm trying to think if I've ever dated someone with, like, a weird name.
Oh.
Yeah.
Do you know I dated someone one time named Desmond?
Yeah.
How have you never told me that?
I feel like I have.
I was in college.
Wait, did you date my husband?
No.
Is this where you drop it on me?
But he was Irish.
I dated for, like, a summer.
Like, when I tell you it was, like, the girliest college summer fling ever, it was, like. Did he have an Irish accent?
No.
Oh.
But he had, like, blue eyes, brown hair.
He would, like, come to the door and, like, ring the doorbell to pick me up for dinner.
Oh, my God.
It was, like, a real summer fling.
I think I was, like, 20.
So cute.
Anyway.
Why is can every week?
Like, what's every week?
Like, what?
All of a sudden, one day I woke up.
And everyone was just, like. In can.
You didn't come to can.
I'm, like, where did every. What's everyone do?
Surely not everyone needs to be there.
Also, it's not, like, next door.
I'm, like, you guys are going across the world for a panel?
This is a lot.
This is a lot.
You could do virtual, you know?
You could do a Zoom.
I feel like I see something about can and I'm just, like, no.
No, but also can, they just had the film festival.
And now they're doing, like, an advertising festival.
Everything's a festival.
There's a lot of festivals.
Which are better than parades, I will say.
I just want to end here because I have been doing some, like, thoughts and reflection.
And if there's one thing about me, I like to acknowledge when I've changed my mind.
Because I think it's important to let women know that it's okay to change your mind.
That's what growing and expanding and that's what life is all about.
And so I do think that there are certain situations where it is okay to say one thing and do it.
And I think there are situations where it's okay to be hypocritical.
The more I think about it, the more I really put some thought into it.
I actually kind of love that Taylor Swift's getting married at Madison Square Garden.
I thought you were going to say you're getting Botox.
Wait, so it's official.
She's getting married there.
No, I mean, I think so.
That's, like, what the chatter has been.
Why not?
Have some whimsy.
She's in the heart of it.
She's in the heart of New York City, arguably the best city in the entire fucking world.
The energy just alone on that day will be so insane.
I feel like that's, like, good karma.
Madison Square Garden, she's performed there.
It was probably a major highlight of her career, the first time she ever sold out Madison Square Garden.
It's iconic.
People from all over the fucking world know what Madison Square Garden is.
The security detail would be so top notch.
Not a single.
Not a single paparazzi would be able to get a photo or even get close to getting into the building.
I think that's probably a massive peace of mind for her.
Surely she has to think about people trying to, like, legit come and, like.
What are they going to do about the ice rink?
Now, that I don't know.
And then the other thing is she is a billionaire.
So she has the capacity to hire.
Do anything she wants.
Do anything.
She could make it look like a literal, completely different place in there.
She better invite the whole NYX team.
I think she will.
That's the other thing.
People are like, she's inviting a thousand people.
I kind of feel like that might be, like, a lie.
I actually think it will be, like, a normal-sized wedding.
I heard that there's a lot of people being invited.
Like.
Really?
It's going to be, like, a crazy spectacle.
And I think good for her.
Like, lean in.
Have fun.
Do your thing.
Like.
I'm exhausted.
Like, I'm exhausted.
I love how, like, halfway through, she's like.
We should have just eloped.
This is kind of fucking crazy.
Yeah.
I mean, just personally, the older I get, if I, like, think about, like, what my wedding
could potentially be, I do feel like it gets chiller and chiller.
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
You're like, let's do a brunch.
Like, I really do just think about my outfits.
As long as I have enough things to change outfits, then I'm like, I don't really.
Your wedding day is going to be you doing a photo shoot for three fucking hours.
Different backgrounds.
I do have some type of cape idea that, like, I'm, like.
Like, where am I making this work?
I have been ruminating on a cape for, like, years now.
No, you're going to have to do a reveal.
It's going to be a whole thing.
And then when the party actually starts, no one's going to know where you are.
People are going to be like, how did I miss Paige?
And I do want this one certain drone shot.
Yeah.
You're going to get the shot, and you're going to get out of there.
And then you're going to.
Yeah, they're like, guys, go home.
This is weird.
Then you're going to find it.
You're going to post.
It's going to be iconic.
And you're like, amazing.
We got the shot.
And your husband's like, we didn't even say I do.
Yeah.
He's like, you skipped the whole ceremony, babe.
She's like, we're good.
We're good.
OK, so here's what we're doing for the weekend.
We're just, like, wishing Hannah well.
We're, like, we're just, like, we're sending good vibes, positive energy.
I honestly, like, I cook right now just thinking, like, having the gigglers know what I'm going
through makes me feel less alone because I felt really alone this last week besides my
mom who betrayed me and you.
And my husband and my cat who, Butter never smiles.
And everyone, I mean, people talk shit about Butter, though.
But also, one quick announcement, too, to make me feel better.
Des, Des' Hulu special drops.
Oh, yes.
I saw that.
I wanted to bring that up.
On Friday.
Go watch Des' special.
If you feel weird watching just, like, a man, get another man that you know in your life.
It could be your dad.
It could be, like, probably, yeah, if you have a boyfriend.
If you don't.
If you don't have a boyfriend, like, good.
Good job.
A man you met once, just, like, send him the link.
I don't know.
But everyone watch it and message him and tell him your favorite jokes because we support
one man in the arts in this family.
I DMed Des, but I didn't know what to say, so I just did the hands up emoji.
He probably loved it.
Two Scorpios trying to show affection.
Yeah, I was just like, good job.
Good job over there.
I love you guys.
Thank you for not.
For giggling.
Thank you for taking the time.
Thank you for taking the time at our emergency press conference and we'll keep you posted
and things are going to get better.
Life can be hard sometimes.
Bye.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host shares a personal and humbling experience of developing an unexpected and painful reaction to a Botox injection for TMJ pain, which affected his ability to smile and caused significant mental and emotional distress.
He reflects on how the incident revealed deeper vulnerabilities, including anxiety, self-criticism, and a lack of awareness about medical risks, and emphasizes the importance of women being able to express authentic emotions and facial movements.
The experience led to a profound realization about the value of connection, support, and vulnerability, especially within the gigglers community, where open sharing fosters collective healing and understanding.
He highlights the contrast between societal expectations of smiling as a default for women and the reality of how such expressions can be physically and emotionally disrupted by personal choices.
The story includes a blend of humor, self-deprecation, and spiritual reflection, including a visit to an astrologer who provided insights about personal growth, cycles, and manifestation, reinforcing the idea that setbacks can lead to transformation.
The host expresses gratitude for family, community, and faith during a difficult time, turning to prayer and emotional support as tools to cope and regain balance.
He shares broader observations on social behaviors, such as public safety concerns, gendered perceptions of risk, and romantic relationships in Hollywood, linking them to personal experiences of anxiety and trust.
Despite the distress, he concludes with resilience, optimism, and a sense of purpose, affirming that personal growth, self-awareness, and community support are essential in navigating life’s challenges.
Summary:
The host recounts a deeply personal and stressful experience involving an unintended side effect from a Botox injection for TMJ pain, which severely disrupted his ability to smile and left him emotionally and mentally overwhelmed. He describes the physical and psychological toll, including anxiety, self-blame, and a loss of control over his facial expressions, which he sees as a humbling moment that exposed deeper vulnerabilities. The experience led him to reflect on gendered expectations around smiling, the importance of emotional authenticity, and the value of community and support—particularly within the gigglers network.
He shares how this ordeal prompted a shift in self-perception, leading to greater self-awareness, resilience, and openness about mental health. Alongside personal insights, he touches on broader social themes like safety in public spaces, Hollywood relationships, and the impact of personal choices. Ultimately, he concludes with faith, gratitude, and optimism, emphasizing that despite the discomfort, the experience has deepened his connection to others and affirmed the importance of vulnerability, growth, and community in navigating life’s challenges.
He ends with a message of hope, affirming that healing and self-acceptance are possible through shared experience and mutual support.
FAQs
Gary experienced unexpected side effects after receiving disport injections, including difficulty smiling and a shortened, wonky smile. He later discovered that the procedure had caused his facial muscles to weaken and that this was a rare and serious side effect.
Gary was deeply affected emotionally and described feeling like he was in a 'dark place.' He felt humbled, anxious, and experienced mental fatigue, which led him to seek support from the gigglers and engage in self-reflection and therapy.
Yes, Gary contacted the doctor who performed the procedure, sought advice from another medical professional in West Hampton, and even received saline injections in an attempt to improve his facial condition.
The gigglers provided emotional support, shared experiences, and offered a community of understanding. Gary felt less alone and emphasized that their collective experiences helped him process his emotions.
Yes, Gary turned to religion, specifically Mormonism, and asked for prayers from the nuns. He also found peace in reflecting on his life, mental health, and personal growth, especially after connecting with his mother and family.
Gary realized that facial expression is vital to emotional connection and authenticity. He now values natural movements and expressions, and he openly shares his experience to raise awareness about the risks of cosmetic procedures.
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