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Speaker 2yes good morning this is giddy up with gareth hall on this wednesday the 11th of november it's a big hello to you listening on your local scn track and rsn 927 dials wherever you may be listening on the scn and rsn apps if you're listening to us a little later on on the podcast hello to you and of course watching us on racing.com well we start the giddy up show with really heavy hearts after the racing industry lost one of our own yesterday izzy neal was a young passionate talented horsewoman that lived a life full of love in a statement from izzy's family it read yesterday it is with deep sadness and broken hearts that we announce the passing of our beloved izzy surrounded by her closest family and friends izzy rode horses before she could walk her love of horses was a lifelong passion that more recently had grown into the love of racing through organ donation izzy will give others the chance of life bringing some comfort to our family amid this devastating loss we're deeply grateful for the love kindness and support shown to izzy and our family by her friends the racing community and who has been by our side during this heartbreaking time we'd like to thank racing new south wales and the new south wales jockeys association for their care compassion and support during this incredibly difficult time we also extend our heartfelt thanks to the medical staff who cared for izzy at warren there on sunday with such compassion as we come to terms with our loss we ask that our family's privacy be respected izzy was dearly loved and will forever be in our hearts and izzy did make some of the most important contributions to our family's life and we thank her for her impact in her 22 years on this planet and reading the hundreds of tributes and there were hundreds of them she was a remarkable person that made this world better and her passing has also rocked her many fans that had never had the privilege really to meet izzy but had watched her grow into this amazing rider and person and on behalf of everyone here at giddy up the sports entertainment network and racing.com we send all of our love to izzy's family and friends
Speaker 3it's a tata taking a run the nimble star further back to calypso rocker being swilled up on the inside 300 ago king of dragons being tackled by it's a tata extra looms on the outside clear then from creon calypso rockets batting away polymer starting to pick up on the inside the front runner here inside the the hundred meters coming up on the outside is indy springs with a big run late but has fallen short there going on to win it was it's a tata it's a tata from indy springs creon then came neeson yeah he's
Speaker 4a tata from indy springs creon and i think it's quite fitting that i can have my first city winner on him you know the owners and brett really backed me on him so just really lucky today yeah obviously i've had great support from brett and and scott singleton uh as well as i recently so it's just really great to be able to come here and it's great for the owners of this guy too so very happy congratulations enjoy it thank you so
Speaker 2that was izzy after she rode her first metro winner on it's a tata there for brett rob um and you could just hear in her voice on that particular day what this guy meant to her so we kick off the agenda as i said as i said from the top with heavy hearts we're about to have a chat to scott singleton who was izzy's master but troy corson's the president of the trainers association the australian trainers association and um you delivered a wonderful statement you can read that out if you want there yesterday from the australian trainers association paying tribute to izzy as well thanks gareth
Speaker 5i um i read the statement yesterday and i got quite emotional and i thought i'd put something together yeah and i'll try and get through it because it is sad yeah there's a place for words in racing today finding them is terribly hard across the australian trainers association we are grieving the loss of izzy neal some of us knew her others never had the privilege but her family's words about a girl who rode before she could walk will feel deeply familiar in stables across this country that love of horses is how so many of our own stories began it hurts beyond words that izzy will not have the years ahead to keep living hers as trainers we share our working lives with young people who bring that love through the gates each morning we see their determination watch their confidence grow and become invested in their futures they become part of our lives and we want so much for them the izzy's family we know there is nothing we can write that comes close to what you've lost you knew her long before racing did before the silks the race rides she was your izzy as our industry mourns we hold that closest of all your decision to share a gift of organ donation has touched us deeply somewhere another family will have more time together because of izzy we wish you with all our hearts that you could have more time with her too in the days ahead racing will return to its familiar rhythms for those who loved izzy everything will be different our responsibility to care for them must continue long after the tributes have quietened on behalf of our members across australia we will remember izzy the life she was building and the people who always will be missing her yeah
Speaker 2that was beautifully written well done troy and scott singleton um joins us now he was obviously izzy's master and him and his team and everyone involved in the racing industry would be doing extremely tough at the moment but scott we appreciate you coming on giddy up um we're thinking of all of you mate how is everyone holding up
Speaker 6at the moment oh understandably um upset mate but yeah we um the horses need to be looked after and izzy would want us to just carry on and look after the horses but um that was some lovely words there troy um but i think you said it best when you said there just is no words it's just devastating you know
Speaker 2yeah she sounds like she was just a bloody superstar
Speaker 6scotty oh look i know um people you know after people have passed everyone comes out and says they were the best person but she truly was just the sweetest kid um you know like um i said to her quite a few times um when she'd do something sweet or you know like just go out of her way to try and help somebody that um do you hope one day my daughter grows up to be just like you you know she was just that that nice um and it's just it's just tragic it really is
Speaker 2and she was such a a promising young rider and she improved out of sight really in a short amount of time and she rode that metro winner there in town for brett robb and she was kicking plenty of goals as well mate yeah
Speaker 6she was going great it was only melbourne cup day she run second on one at ramwick they're just beating in the last stride and um it was just she was just so happy she just um she'd worked hard and and just put her first deposit down on her first house and she was really excited about that and um yeah it's just yeah it's just no words for it um but we just got to carry on and um try and keep the other kids here um help them out through it and it's certainly life's never going to be the same
Speaker 2again you know how do you do that
Speaker 6scott uh mate i think you just do it because you have to um but it's yeah it's it's just um we we just feel like we've lost a daughter or something you know um so yeah yeah that would
Speaker 2be the toughest part troy and you've worked with trainers that have been in this situation before as well and it's the most difficult part of the we all know what happens in this game it does but it's tough
Speaker 5when you have to live it and a hundred percent gareth and no no one nobody deserves to go to work and not be able to come home yeah and what you guys must be going through scotty up there i just it honestly it breaks my heart it absolutely breaks my
Speaker 6heart yeah oh no it's just um it's tough if someone had told me you know well if you you lose someone like that this is how tough it's going to be i would have said i can't be that tough but it's tougher than that um but yeah you just so many things go through your mind and you know i could i wished i hadn't have let her go out there and ride and stuff that day but um another um old apprentice of mine mitch rang me up the other day and he knew i'd be feeling that and he said boss like we all know what we sign up for and and she was doing what she loved like she wouldn't be thinking anything like that you know so you can't
Speaker 5think like that either scotty you know and if there's one thing about the racing industry it's when tough times like this come we always stick together so lean lean on your mates and and lean on your friends yeah and i reckon
Speaker 2that when you read the family statement and it was a beautiful um statement that they released their yes yesterday um and i reckon it put a smile on my face in a way is he rode horses before she could walk her love of horses was a lifelong passion that more recently had grown into a love of racing so she every day she would rock up to your stage and she would say you know i'm going to go to the table scotty doing
Speaker 6what she loved yeah and she always had a smile on her face um like how you see her in those pictures after riding a winner and stuff that's literally how she was on the hardest of days do you know what i mean like um yeah when when everyone's sort of slogging away and it's been a long day and it's raining or whatever she just always had a smile on her face um she wasn't one of those kids that was oh god how much more work have we got to do do you know she's she was just a great kid and it's um it's just devastating yeah
Speaker 2well we're thinking of everyone mate um you've spoke so beautifully today and you know um her legacy will be live on and as i said listening to you and the tributes that i've read from different people and i i was talking to troy and calvin calvin's about to join us as well calvin mcavoy is that i i got a heap of i never met izzy but i got a heap of messages yesterday from people that i didn't know but were punters and racing fans that have watched izzy from afar that um had had watched her grow into the rider that she is and obviously when you can listen to them interview being interviewed after and before the races um you know people can build an association with someone like izzy even though she was in the game for a short amount of time so um yeah she she had an amazing impact on this world and um um yeah she will never be forgotten mate we're thinking of you and your team and everyone involved in the racing industry around scone and and country new south wales especially um they'll be doing it tough and they'll be doing it tough for a while 100 and if you need
Speaker 5anything scotty or the family needs anything just reach out mate just reach out yeah
Speaker 6no everyone's been fantastic you know like um yeah everyone's just offered to help and if if the staff here are doing it tough they'll they'll come in and and work and stuff it's just been great but um nah the the kids here just all sort of feel like you know if it was one of them izzy would turn up and and want to just carry on and make sure the horses are right and stuff so um yeah what do you do it's just it just is what it is but no you certainly doesn't take didn't take you long when you met her to know that she was a a beautiful person um like you say people could probably just watch her interviews on tv and and and walk away thinking god she's a lovely person but she truly was one of a kind you know she was just a beautiful kid good on
Speaker 2you scotty well said mate we're thinking of you and um yeah we appreciate you coming on giddy up this morning thanks scott all right guys
Speaker 6all right see you later
Speaker 2there's scotty singleton there calvin mcavoy how late are you mate it is
Speaker 7it's the worst part of our game it is gareth and um that was you know beautifully said from scott and um you know it's it's something that doesn't happen often but it's it rocks the industry and um you know we've seen it we've seen it here in victoria with with dean holland who was part of our team and it was amazing how the team banded together you know like you'd think people wouldn't turn up all the young kids that work for us dean was in twice a week and they just they um got strength in being together and i thought that was and i'm sure the same will happen to scott's team and all of our friends up there and but um yeah it puts things into perspective doesn't it you know you think about some of the some of the arguments we have and and the the shit we talk about in this industry that that does put it into significant
Speaker 2isn't it yeah and um and we lost dean how long we lost dean's been three years april yeah three years yeah april and as scott pointed out just before like years ago every year and i think it's been a long time since we've been together and i think it's been a long time since we've been together and i think it's been a long time everyone is hurting and it's um it's hard to describe with words but you've got to keep on going don't you well you
Speaker 7do and then he made he made a very very good point and um she was out doing what she loved yeah and and you know it's it's easy to get dirty on the game i think and um no i'm not trying you know it can be a mental battle when these things happen as to is it worth the game but i think people once you do your mourning and you accept and everyone bands together you as you know you move on and you know you've got to keep on going and you've got to keep on and you continue to strive um
Speaker 2i think that's what hit home to me like she did do what she loved doing and her family pointed that out and um she wouldn't have
Speaker 5had it any other way 100 percent yeah um you know it's such a part of our industry that um if you're not passionate about it you probably shouldn't be in it and the majority of people get out if they don't want to yeah um you know i've got uh holly den and who it was friends with izzy and uh she's around the same age as well so you know it's just so hard you know every time that they go out there is that chance and it's it's horrible to think about so you're trying not to and how do you deal with someone
Speaker 2like holly in this situation
Speaker 5oh look we'll just make sure that she's okay and um and and continue to support her and give her whatever she needs she's riding extremely well at the moment so it
Speaker 2makes it very easy um john thompson is he spent a little bit of time with john as well he he put out on his social media platforms there yesterday is he now an absolute beacon of shining light always happy always smiling loved by everyone who met her the world is poorer for the loss of a beautiful young lady just heartbreaking so we're going to miss izzy um the racing industry especially in new south wales and the people that were close to her it's not just like a family but her racing family as well because they spend a lot of time they get up in the early hours of the morning they go to different race meetings across country new south wales they spend a lot of time on the road and they will be hurting because um yeah they lose a dear friend um in izzy neal who as i just pointed out passed away there yesterday after a race full at warren on sunday we're going to take a break it's 15 minutes past date and on the other side of it we'll continue on the wednesday agenda join the conversation
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Speaker 2gareth hall welcome back to giddy up um the wednesday agenda calvin mcavoy and troy causton's with me i'm looking forward to discussing all the hot topics in the sport of thoroughbred racing and then after that we'll have grant dixon and chantelle turpin join us i'm talking a little bit about the race we're going to be talking about the race we're going to be talking about a bit of harness racing one of the best ever days for queensland harness racing it was the best ever day i think for queensland harness racing yesterday the greatest of all time leap to fame he adds the new zealand cup to his resume and what a performance it was to sit in the breeze and beat australasia's best pacer in only the way that he can really do doing all the work from um what they call the death seat in harness racing so we'll have a chat to grant dixon chantelle turpin of course the trainer of gus took out the dominion headlight handicap which is the featured trotting race in new zealand we'll find you some winners with bag of tips we've got a big weekly chase today it's a little earlier um so jason adams will join us along with georgie ferugia the dream chasers festivals in full swing after those group ones at the meadows on saturday night so we'll talk to the team about what's coming up we've got the melbourne cup heats on friday night week um and then the big final hour we'll concentrate on wa racing darren mccauley will join us and then we've got our futures show for the wa pinnacles um i've got all of the horses basically that are going to wa i've been on the phones all morning trying to work out which horses are going which horses are doing your job doing my job that's a very good point you make calvin so i think we can make some money today i reckon we've found some value hey can you explain to me i know nothing about harness what is the death seat the death seat is when you sit outside of the leader and back in the day it was nearly impossible to do that not impossible but especially in today's world when they're over about oh it's i haven't three or four meters no it's 30 or 40 meters when you have it when you um extra yeah extra when you yeah dig deep into the numbers especially over two miles he's a he's a dead set he's the nearly the best horse i've ever seen in any coat
Speaker 7like i've never what i've never understood with harness is they don't the jockey weight doesn't matter right i don't know they're on wheels but still you'd think that 90 kilos versus 70 kilos
Speaker 2would be different no well it it does make a difference like a lot of
Speaker 7horses me the horse would be working much harder
Speaker 2with me on yeah a lot of the trainers now use lighter drivers and the best drivers in the world in north america like dexter down they're tall but they're skinny they're light like you yes and so they've got this ability to sit back and and rate their horses in a way and they can i don't know you have to be it's a different body shape in a way that i see the the most successful harness racing drivers but um the technology these days in the sport of harness racing with the the ways that they've designed the tracks but the sulkies as well um have improved how quick these horses are going dramatically but as fred kersley used to tell me he's a legend fred kersley the trainer of northerly it was a hall of famer in the sport of harness racing in wa and he loves both coats he goes the standard brand have just amazed him in the last 30 years he goes the thoroughbred hasn't improved but the standard bred in this part of the world mainly because of the improvement in breeding in north america has improved too 200 odd meters now that's due to bloodlines but also the different technology but when you think these horses are going like um they can come out of the gate and go 12 seconds of furlong like
Speaker 7it's just astonishing yeah with
Speaker 2a with someone behind him and all the gear that they wear wow at leap to fame is just a monster i've never seen anything like it really like you could talk
Speaker 7about this horse all i
Speaker 2love him yeah and like people outside of the harness racing game and thoroughbred people now are sitting back and they are sitting back and they are sitting back and they admire what he's been able to do as a an equine athlete have you driven one i have yeah oh it's it's it's one of the best thrills
Speaker 5i've done it as well yeah it's amazing i went out and i bought a truck off a guy named bob cameron who's a trainer from the south island in new zealand i
Speaker 2think he trained eric yeah it was very eric please i think it was yeah they're asking the wrong person
Speaker 5but i just said i'd love to have a drive and i reckon he let me drive about four or five yeah it was one of the best feelings i've ever had it's so amazing it's so amazing it's so amazing it's so amazing It's so much fun.
Speaker 2It's unbelievable really. Like I. wish I was a horse person. I've tried to drive horses and like I can drive them, but I haven't got that. I'm not a horse person. No, I was really good. Yeah, I've got no feel. Anyway, I've got heavy hands. We digress. I'll tell you, he could be a standard bred cosmic crusader. There's a strong possibility that he will float down. He'll be put on a truck on Sunday. Well, he will be put on a truck on Sunday. He won't fly? No, he has to go up to Sydney in a truck. Yeah, okay. And then he flies from Sydney to Perth. They arrive Monday in Perth and then he'll carry 61 kilos in a railway steaks. He probably will. I reckon he should go for
Speaker 5a spell as soon as he gets home.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know, because you've got Harry's yacht that will be making his way to Perth.
Speaker 7What an amazing horse. Credit to him. I was against that horse after the first couple of runs and he was the standout performer of the spring, in my opinion.
Speaker 2If he goes on, like if he wins a railway, and it's difficult to win a railway with 61 on his back, and it's probably not a great railway, let's be honest. If he wasn't in it, it's a group two, group three field at best. So he's the star attraction. I don't know if Buckaroo will go down that path now because he'll get two and a half kilos on Cosmic Crusader in the railway and then it's back to level weight to wait for age there in the northerly over the 1800 metres. But it would be some performance if he can do that. And if he does, I don't care what happens in the autumn. If he wins the railway in the northerly, he is the horse of the year.
Speaker 5He's in contention now. Has to be, doesn't he? I agree. Look at the preparation. He'd be leading.
Speaker 7Won the Bletchingly, won the Lawrence, third in the Memsie, second in the Underwood, won the Turnbull, fourth in the Caulfield Cup, won the Cox Plate, second in the Champions.
Speaker 5And one trial on the 1st of July, which means he must have, he's been up sort of around April, you'd think. So he's been up a long time and what an amazing effort by Andrea League to get that horse to do what he's done. That's outstanding. He has to be.
Speaker 2I reckon he has to be the favourite at the moment, at the halfway mark for the horse of the year.
Speaker 5100%. Who would be on top of him at the moment?
Speaker 2Autumn Glow. She's won a King Charles and a Champions mile.
Speaker 5The Autumn's going to be very, and he's not going to obviously.
Speaker 2He might run in a Quokka. Yeah. There's a chance that he might go in all three. People think I'm only stirring the pot here, but I honestly believe that he will do that, Bob.
Speaker 7Credit needs to be given to how many dances he's gone to. Like in terms of talking about horse of the year, it's got to be, I know Autumn Glow has won those two big races, but he's been in every dance, hasn't he? I was talking to Willie Pike
Speaker 2about this yesterday. Hopefully Willie doesn't mind me talking about the conversation that we had on the phone, but it sounds like that this horse, and talking to Bob about it as well, that he actually doesn't do any good when he's not in work. So he doesn't spell great. And so. And that's a real thing that happens. Yeah.
Speaker 5We get a lot of, and especially older geldings like that as well. You sort of tip them out, think you're doing the right thing and they don't come back or they take ages to come back.
Speaker 2And this is what I've loved about this conversation. I'm learning a lot because I absorb all the information that I get from you guys and different trainers and horse people that like actually Bob's doing him a favor by keeping him. And as he said to me before the champion stakes, he goes, he goes better when he races consecutive Saturdays. So Bob's probably thinking this is how I'm thinking Bob's thinking. And it's hard to think what Bob is thinking sometimes, but he, he, for the betterment of that horse going to that Perth carnival, I need to give him a run in the railway. So he's right for the northerly. And he probably, even though he drops back 400 meters to the gold rush, he'd probably be ready to go for that race as well.
Speaker 5You can't doubt what this horse is going to do. Why is he? Will he go back to Michael Grantham? Or does he stay with Andrea Leake?
Speaker 2No, he goes to Michael Grantham. So that's always been the understanding from both Michael Grantham and Andrea Leake. When the horse is in Melbourne, it's Andrea's horse. And when he's in Perth, he's Mickey G's horse. I do feel for Mickey Grantham in a way, like he's on a hiding to nothing in a way, isn't he? Like he's got this horse. He's a superstar trainer. I don't feel sorry for him. I wouldn't mind being in his spot. Take it as a privilege, I suppose. But yeah, I think it's going to be, and the railway stakes desperately needed. That. Yeah. Like it's under pressure to keep its group one status, even though it's the most famous race in WA.
Speaker 7Is this the race that he missed the start in last year?
Speaker 2Yeah, he didn't, he didn't win the RJ Peters. That's right. So it was unlucky. God. And then he missed out on that race. And then he went on and won the Carbine over the 1400 on the same day. Yeah. And then two weeks later, he won the Northerly and then he was something beat, I reckon. In the gold rush. In the gold rush. By Ray. Yeah. By Ray McNerio. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I think it's like, I don't think in my time I've ever had a horse that's able to do this for the racing fans just to turn up to every dance. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. He's like an old school.
Speaker 7Well, you know, one of those old school tough horses that we don't
Speaker 2see a lot anymore. And do you think we, we, and I, I, it's like you see Cosmic Crusader, but why don't we see this more often? I listened to you ask Wayne Hawks. Yeah. And Wayne's
Speaker 7probably the complete opposite to what Bob would be thinking. Well, no doubt, but I do agree. Like horses are, they are softer these days than they used to be. Yeah. And I think I'm sure there are some horses that probably would cop more work and, and it's a bit of a case by case base. Like, I mean, look at what Kieran did with that point of law. Like you need to have the athlete that can cop the work to do that. And I suppose if you tried it with 10 horses, I'd say eight of them, it would not work. And we can't afford to barbecue eight of them. Yeah. Eight of them would be in the paddock. But Bob couldn't
Speaker 2really, like he wouldn't want to, um, um, barbecue Cosmic Crusader. This is his best. Yeah. But he knows his horse well. And he, obviously from that point of view, he's got
Speaker 7that preparation in Perth where he ran in, what do you run five times in six weeks or something? Yeah. I think he obviously knew the constitution that horse has and, and maybe, um, that, you know, they learned from that and, and he gave, um, the trainer, the license to, to go to all those, um, go to all those races. What, what amazes me is that he ran and I think it was the Caulfield Cup and he galloped the next Tuesday or something like
Speaker 2that. So Caulfield Cup, he gallops Tuesday, Thursday, races Saturday. Yeah. I love him. He's nearly my favorite horse now at the moment. Oh, you've jumped on him? Yeah. I've jumped on him. I've seen him at the moment. Oh, you've jumped off Pride of Jenny, haven't you? Pride of Jenny, she's in the paddock, but Cosmic Crusader, just because he's tough.
Speaker 7Uncle Tony would be so disappointed in you.
Speaker 2Well, Uncle Tony, we couldn't get Pride of Jenny, unfortunately, to Perth. And that would have been some race if she took off around Perth, around Ascot and, um, gave Cosmic Crusader something to chase. Yep. She's in the paddock. She'll be okay, but she just hasn't come up quick enough for Kieran and Jack to put the work into her so she could race like she needs to race there during a Perth carnival. Um, I'm going to take a break. It's 28 minutes past eight. Then I'm going to go through the horses that will be going to WA. We'll discuss all of that. And the interesting one is Jigsaw. Like if you're Cindy Alderson, we're trying to get Cindy on today, but she'll catch up with us tomorrow. What do you do? She's still got a decision to make. Do you go to a winter bottom? Do you go to Hong Kong and run second to Kying Rising? Well, in saying that, um, Tempta got beat by plaintiff the other day. So who knows in this world, it could be Kying Rising Jigsaw. Or do you go to the. Meteorite defend your title there in that slot race. So it was Scott. We'll discuss all of that straight after this. It's 29 minutes past eight.
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Speaker 2This Saturday, I'm really looking forward to this meeting, the group one C4 stakes, which is 10 thrilling races at sports bet. Sandown, November 14 tickets are just $15. The aura's a beauty. 1400 meters. You get two of Chris Wallace star 1400 meter horses in Baywack and angel capital and Jimmy star. Yeah. What else do you really want at the end of the Melbourne
Speaker 5carnival? It's going to be a rip. I think it's been, um, it's a great little extension of the carnival and looking forward to getting back to Sandown. Haven't been there for a little while. And it's such a racing person's track. I reckon we all love, um, sand down. We all love, um, going out there and giving our horses their chance is racing.
Speaker 2I know I said, I'll get to our, our WA, um, features in just a minute, just to see which horses are going or not. But there's racing lack of big grand final 1400 meter weight for age race. They're all leaned up races to there. There's no real grand slam 1400 meter races. Is there? I guess the C4s at the end of the carnival and these horses are going out, but, um, but they've had. Bigger fish to fry this campaign already. Jimmy star angel capital and, and Bay whack.
Speaker 7Um, yeah, I don't know. We were talking the other day, Troy about a, a thousand meter. There's only 2000 minute group ones in Australia and the light and the light and they're both wait for age. Is that right? Uh, no, no, no, it's wait for age. I think they needs to be a, um, a handicap big down the straight Flemington during cup week, thousand meters, like big scale of weights. Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 2Yeah, that would be cool. But, um, wait, don't matter really. Do they do it on Derby day and they can back up in
Speaker 7the champion sprint on, on the final day.
Speaker 2Yeah. Let's hope they don't draw wide. Then they're in trouble. We'll get to that in just a moment. Um, so the horses that we know that are going to be good. Yeah. To going to Perth and there's so many options for these owners and trainers to whether you go to Perth, you can go to Sydney. They've got the Hunter and the gong coming up. Um, I think there's, there's like, there's million dollar races right up to Christmas in Sydney. And then here in Victoria, you've got supernova supernova, the media, type of races that you can go to. Cranberry Cup, half a million. Pakenham Cup. Pakenham Cup, yeah. So you've decided to go to Perth with Harry's Yacht.
Speaker 5We have, yes. And literally made the decision last night, late last night. So talk us through that decision. Oh, we had planned on running him in the Supernova and we're trying to negotiate a spot in that. And then we just sat back yesterday and got a bit of a wind that there weren't a hell of a lot going over. No. And I sat there and Will and I.
Speaker 7It's like a cosmic crusader.
Speaker 5No, a cosmic crusader is going home. Maybe Uncle Bob's going to the paddock, you never know. I just thought for a crack at two million and a half dollar races, we should put him on, send him over. He's not at the end of his prep. He seems really well and we'll give him a shot.
Speaker 2So King of Light's the favourite in the railway. Cosmic Crusader's $6. Hot and High's $6. Rockfest needs to qualify. Needs to win the R.J. Peters this week. It's at $6. I wonder what they'll do with Buckaroo. Whether you'd have a crack at the railway with that weight advantage, you'll get over Cosmic Crusader. I think he's got $58.5. He's at $7.50. Western Empire at $8. Western Miss needs to win the R.J. Peters to get in at $11. The party's going at $15. Welcome to the show, Iz. And where is your horse? We haven't even got it in the market. Oh, they wouldn't have known we were going. All right. Hey, Harry's yacht. There you go. Harry's yacht is at $51. There you go. There's your each way play.
Speaker 5Jump on. Jump on. $51. Cos he's going and I tell you what, he shouldn't be $51.
Speaker 2No. So that's basically it. It's only about eight or nine horses going. I see that Surf and Bird's going, the mare.
Speaker 7Yeah. So she'll be on pace. I wonder if it'd be different if they put the plane out of Melbourne. I'm sure. I'm sure some people. I'm sure there'd be one or two more, should that be the case.
Speaker 2Do you know, I've asked that question on a few occasions. They want to get as many horses as they can to Perth.
Speaker 7There's more horses going from Melbourne than Sydney.
Speaker 2Correct. But they can only fit eight or nine horses on the plane from Melbourne. Yeah. Where Perth put this on. Got to get a bigger plane. Yeah. Well, Perth put this on. I don't think you can. So Perth put this on. So what they do, so they give the horses that are going over, it's free. So Harry's yacht, I would imagine it's free. Yes. Yeah. Unless you win. Unless you win. So you've got to pay. Yeah. Nothing's for free. No. And so, but then you've got, so to help pay for the flight, then they allow other people to pay their way to get to Perth. So there's, I think a harness horse. There's a couple of other horses that might be purchased by Perth clients that they would travel over. I agree. I disagree with that. I think if there's only eight horses and they're all coming from Melbourne and you're charting a flight, then you make, you, you don't make it hard for them. Then let them go from Melbourne instead of Sydney.
Speaker 5It's not, it's not, you know what, people probably put too much into this. We've done it before with the astrologist and he, it's not, it's not that big.
Speaker 7I disagree. It's, it's 10 hours or 11 hours on a float that you shouldn't need to do. Well, nine from where, where to where? I don't know. Nine from Flemington to. I'm not sure that's correct. When you stop for fuel, you stop.
Speaker 5Anyway, we've done it and we've done it successfully. So we're going to do it again. Yeah. Um, and that's why Calvert's not going, obviously.
Speaker 7Well, we won the Winterbottom with Haydock, did it, but I'm just saying, you know, we've they should, they should be able to pivot. Like we're in 2026.
Speaker 2No, it's, you know what, it's, it's, it's so hard to get horses to Perth. It's nearly impossible. It's easy to get home, but it's, it's very difficult to get them to Perth for some reason. If you jigsaw, now my information is talking to the people that obviously you need to know today, don't you? If you're going to Perth or not, because you have to have the liver fluke. Yeah. So, um, so the people who are running the organization to get these horses to Perth would know what horses are going there. And I don't think jigsaws on the list. So that, that interests me. I thought, I don't know. They, they might've, we're trying to get hold of Cindy, but obviously Cindy's got other options like Hong Kong and the meteorite. I thought the Winterbottom would be the perfect race for jigsaw again. Oh, me too.
Speaker 7He'd, he'd, he'd, he'd brain them in the Winterbottom.
Speaker 2Yeah. But, um, he's not going there. So that means overpass is one of the greatest bets of all time. We've bet three, six, five.
Speaker 7Does his best work in Perth at overpass. He does. So does Bjorn Baker.
Speaker 2Ray Manierio is not beating overpass. Is he? 1,500 metres around our sky.
Speaker 7Oh, he's in form Ray Manierio, isn't he?
Speaker 2He is. Yeah, and he was very good, wasn't he? And then you got Bassett, Bassett Hound at $8, who's got to step up big time. Um, and then you've got Cosmic Crusader and Buckaroo that dominate the Northley Stakes. And then the Gold Rush could be your race, Harry's Yacht. I don't know how many will back up, but you can freshen him up to the 1,400 metres. Yeah, he'll be, yeah.
Speaker 7Cosmic Crusader will be there for sure, Gareth.
Speaker 5So what? Yeah, he'll be there. We'll head out to the Gangemi's farm for a few days. He'll, um, he'll love that up there with a bit of sun, Perth sun on his back and we'll win the Gold Rush.
Speaker 2Um, looking forward to the Perth Carnival. It's always, it's all, it's one of my favourite carnivals.
Speaker 7Gibney Restaurant, Gareth, down there in Coddleslow. One of the best restaurants I've ever been to in my life. Gibney Restaurant in Coddleslow Beach.
Speaker 5And if we're doing plugs, if you can stay at Crown there, it's, it's outstanding. It's one of the best. We can't stay at Crown. It's one of the best places I've ever stayed.
Speaker 2Archie puts me up at Belmont right next to the. Right next to the track. Well, you need to be closer to the action. Well, yeah, the caravan park. I have to be home at eight o'clock
Speaker 7just to be safe. It's amazing. You're going, are you? Like, you do not miss a carnival. Well, I'm. You're one of the greatest.
Speaker 2I don't know if I'm going to, um, I don't know if I'm going to the Northley or I'm going to the railway. You're not going to Hong Kong, are you? No, I'm not going to Hong Kong. That's good. But you know what I'm going to? We've got Mazu and the meteorites. So we're going to talk about that straight after this. It's 39 minutes past eight.
Speaker 1Text us on 0499 736 736. Live across Australia.
Speaker 2Welcome back to Giddy Up, Gareth Hall with you. Great to have your company. So Jigsaw, um, say, where would you go? Would you go Winterbottom, Hong Kong or the meteorite? Having won a Winterbottom.
Speaker 7Yeah. Even though I wasn't there. It's a great,
Speaker 2it's a great. It's got nothing to do with it. Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 7You were overseas somewhere. No, I was on the license, but. Who rode it? Uh, Luke Currie from Barrier 12. Straight to the front. Lead control, one by four. Yeah, yeah. Um, no, I look, I mean, I think he's the perfect horse for a Winterbottom, isn't it? Like if you spoke about him, but if they want to travel into Hong Kong, why not? Be great fun to run second to Kying Rising. And, uh, and I suppose the meteorite is her home track, Cindy, isn't it? So I can see arguments in all, in all ways and I'll make the right call.
Speaker 5Um, uh, if. If I'm Cindy Alderson, I'm 52 years old. I think she's around my age. She might be a bit younger. She's 40. She parties harder than you. She's probably a lot more fun than you, Troy. She's got a lot more energy than me. If I'm Cindy Alderson, I'm going to Hong Kong. Cause I have traveled horses and it, it's a great experience. It is one of the best things that you can ever do, traveling a horse overseas. If you have a bit of luck, it's even better. But I tell you, it's such a great experience. And he's earned his chance, hasn't he? What do you go to Cranbourne in her backyard or, or do you go to Hong Kong and, and have, the experience of a lifetime? Imagine the, um, the owners that are going to go over for the international day and watch their horse race against.
Speaker 7Yeah. All right. Cindy owns it with one other partner, I believe.
Speaker 5Well, imagine two of them going over and that's even better. He's won $5 million.
Speaker 7I think he probably, he's probably earned his chance to go to Hong Kong.
Speaker 5Okay. So, so even what she does. I'm saying that's great. Yeah. So why not travel?
Speaker 2True. Yeah. Depending on what you want in life. Do you want to turn up there and finish second? She's a horse trainer. She wants what we want.
Speaker 7Lang Kui Fong, um, out, out on the, on the park.
Speaker 5You've got to go to Brenda's, you've got to go to Brenda's for dinner. It's great. Have you been there, Kel? I haven't, mate.
Speaker 2It's unreal. Um, I've never been to a Hong Kong carnival. Really? No, not, I've never, cause it's always a difficult time for me because, um, I do a, a radio show, a national radio show. And unless there's three superstars over there, you know, my audience, they prefer to me talk about the, um, what do you think? It's like I'm packing them cup day. You've got the, yeah, it's crap. No, it's packing them. Um, what else have we got? We've got the greyhounds, of course, the Phoenix. Night and all that. There's plenty happening. So it's difficult time for me to get there. I've done it three times. And you loved it? Oh, it's so much fun.
Speaker 7The way, the way Paul Sebastiani went yesterday, mate, you might be in field. Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2What does they say in the, what do they say in the classics? Never take a holiday or a day off. Yeah. Um, so Jigsaw would be interesting to see what Cindy actually does with him, but she's got some good options. Very good. What do you make of slot racing? Do you think that what Southside racing has worked?
Speaker 5Yeah, for sure. Like you've got to be. You've got to be a little bit, um, inventive and, and try something a little bit different. I really like it. It's good. Create a bit of theater. Like you've been talking about it for four or five weeks, haven't you? And if you guys didn't have a slot, would, would you be doing that? If it was just a normal race, would you be doing that? Probably not. I like it. I really think it's a great idea. Really good concept.
Speaker 2You like the way that we've gone about getting Manzou. You happy with that, Calvin? You're part of the ticket these days. Part of the Giddy Up family.
Speaker 7Yeah. Yeah. So do I get a share of the prize money?
Speaker 2Yeah. A hundred percent. We try to get you a filly, but you wouldn't, you wouldn't budge on going to that million dollar race there on Saturday.
Speaker 7Yeah. Yeah. No, I think there's a place for it for sure. And, um, yeah, it gives another angle to it. Doesn't it? I mean, we've been part of slot, you know, slot races in Queensland, the sunlight though, that's another one that comes up and, um, yeah, I think it's probably the meteorite isn't quite the Everest, but it's not too far
Speaker 2behind. No. Yes. And it's interesting trying to do the deals and you would have been involved with this as well. Like it's great at some. Put it this way. You're going to get more money. You're going to get more money winning a gold rush or a railway or a winner bond, winner bottom than winning a meteorite or a supercar. Bonova, but you're in your own backyard. You don't have to travel. You can put the horses away and then you can get set for the autumn.
Speaker 5Yeah. And the other thing it does, Gareth, is it puts the spotlight a little bit on Cranbourne and a little bit on Pakenham. So Southside gets their day in the sun. It's a really good concept. If anyone, I don't know why you would be against it.
Speaker 2I think it's really important too, because Southside Racing plays such a pivotal part in the fabric of Melbourne Racing. They are a metropolitan race club. And this conversation we have all of the time, do you think they should be on the rotation there, have more Saturday meetings at Cranbourne and Pakenham?
Speaker 5Oh, there's smarter people in the room that can talk to you about that than me. It depends on wagering and stuff like that.
Speaker 7I find Cranbourne a tough track. I'm not sure. Pakenham's okay in summer. Pakenham's a beautiful track. But yeah, if Cranbourne needs a Saturday Metro meeting, that's my personal.
Speaker 2Well, geez, Marzu will be hard to beat. He'll be like Gloucester Park trots once you get to the fence. Took him a little while to get out on the track on Saturday.
Speaker 7You know what?
Speaker 2People have said that to me. They go, well, if he gets out onto the track, you'll be okay. But he, um, I know he's based at Cranbourne now with Kira Ma, but he seems to be able to go out on the track fine with tracks that he's not familiar with. So he's been to Flemington a couple of times and Joe Pride, that's why he was sent to Kira Ma, because Joe Pride said, I've run out of tricks. I can't keep on trialling with Kemba Grange and Gosford and Hawkesbury just so he would go onto the track. Cause he wouldn't go onto the track at the Metro Sydney venue. So, um, he's got a few tricks up his sleeve, but the other interesting part that I learnt with Marzu is that he needs a female rider. So we were talking about riders. So it's either Rachel King or I think Jamie Mellon, basically. Or Celine Gordray will get one of the girls to ride. So he's Sextus. Celine's riding very well. He is Sextus.
Speaker 5I find some horses go better for females. Yeah. I find that.
Speaker 2It's good. Um, isn't Marzu the horse that was jacking up and wouldn't leave the mounting yard before the champion sprint? Oh dear, Garrett. That's from Sammy Highland. Yes, he was. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but he delayed the race about 10 minutes. Yes. A bit more turnover time. What is it? He's doing great. He's, he's a wonderful ambassador for the game. Imagine how much more money you made the industry by delaying the start. Um, he has beaten Jolly Star on a good track over 1200 metres this campaign.
Speaker 5There's no, no doubt he's a bloody good horse. You just wish he had his head right. And you, it's, I think with horses like that, it's only a matter of. Time until it's all over.
Speaker 2Craig says, Marzu, you cannot be serious. He got a steward's warning on him on Saturday. What happens when he won't leave the mounting yard and won't go to the barriers and he's a late scratching? Wow. Your bets get refunded. What an absolutely shocking selection. Great that you picked a horse that no one else would have taken. Good luck. Well, you know what, Craig? We beat most of the people wanted Marzu, including the red army. And it was so satisfying that I beat Adam Hamilton and the team there with the red army.
Speaker 5I'll tell you what, they'd be doing some work in the background. I reckon that they'd, um, they'd have, um. Um, you know, people coming in, trying to come up with different ideas on how to get him out. Um, I agree. Julian Welsh might be down there trying to come up with some tricks.
Speaker 2We'll see how good Kira Mara is. Anyway, I agree. I agree with Troy. Being able to travel the horse is a privilege. Who knows when the next one comes along. Morning, Gareth. Kyle from Perth here. What days you're heading to Perth? We'll be there every day over the pinnings. It'll be great for Perth racing to have you over. Thanks for that. Hey guys, I tell you what racing people aren't happy with. And that's racing.com to put the dogs on when the WA Pinnacles Carnival is just heating up. It was a joke. Yes, there is a ridiculous contract there is to showcase it. However, we got no mounting yard, no priest and Poe race interviews, and actually a slap in the face to horse racing punters and WA racing fans. Um, that's from Winkers. I disagree with you there, Winkers. There's so many different ways that you can watch WA racing. Seven plus is one of those. They've got a association with racing.com, but I think, um, racing.com, it needs to make money and that's the business that it's in and greyhound racing and harness racing. I don't think they're showcased enough on that platform, especially on Saturday night.
Speaker 5Like once it's better, better watching greyhounds than replays of the 1976 Cox plate.
Speaker 2Yeah. Crikey. I disagree with you there.
Speaker 5We need to commercialize this. I remember when you took over from RSN, RSN was, was not making money, not going anywhere. And we came on over to SEN and all of a sudden everyone's listening. And I remember there was a lot of feedback about the commercials and stuff like that, but you can't pay for something like this. Unless you have people chipping in. It is the commercial world that we live in
Speaker 2and racing.com, they've, they've got a wonderful asset.
Speaker 7Yeah. You've got a stat on the ad breaks through the show. There's not that many is there per hour?
Speaker 2No, I've worked at RSN and, and SEN and since we're on racing.com, we do four, two minute breaks. So that's 52 minutes of content. No, there's no other radio broadcaster working harder than I. Pauli Sebastiani, he did the show yesterday. He'll agree with me. 51 minutes past eight. We'll take a break. We'll continue on the Wednesday agenda. Yes. Here's to our sponsors.
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Speaker 7Calvin, a million dollars, a million dollars is not, it's, it's a strong race. I mean, Cheyenne's a really good Philly, isn't she? Um, I think Freedman's a backing up, um, what's their thing called semantics is a good for the angels fury. So a Fari, um, I listened to Josh Rotter. He's declared it basically just declared it. So, um, I think that race is on the lake side, isn't it? I think the other nine races are on the hillside and this particular race is on the being 1200 on the lake side. So I think our Philly needs a favorable draw and, um, she pull up a right from the cool more. Absolutely. Perfect. Yeah, she was a little bit disappointing. Um, everything that was up facing the breeze sort of dropped out a little bit. I'm not making excuses, but I think back around to Ben, you are. As you always do. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I'm moving on.
Speaker 2Hey, um, it's a good race, isn't it? It's interesting Bay Wacker, right? I know that he's been able to dictate terms and win races over the 1400 meters out in the front, making his own luck. Do you reckon he'll enjoy the hillside track?
Speaker 5Yeah, why not? Yeah, I think so. And especially he was there on, uh, Tuesday morning, so he's had a good look around, um, she's racing well, isn't he? I mean, why can't he?
Speaker 2For those Sydney horses, I was talking to a few people regarding these Sydney horses. Can they get lost a little bit at Sandown when you're like, if you, if you need to follow the rail, like you're Bay Wacker and then you get on the course proper?
Speaker 5Eh, I don't think so. No. I think that, I think it's okay. You'll be right.
Speaker 7Yeah. Whatever. So there's a cutaway rail. Is that right? This weekend? Yeah. Which. Oh, I don't like that.
Speaker 2No. Why is there a cutaway rail?
Speaker 7I don't like that. I don't know. I wouldn't have a clue. They tried cutaway rails in this country and it didn't, it wasn't successful.
Speaker 2They usually use cutaway rails when your track's tired and you need to open up the spaces to give, um, other parts of the track a bit of a rest, but not when you haven't raced for that long.
Speaker 5I'd get, get someone online that knows what, um, ask Joshie Rudder. Joshie Rudder will be able to tell you.
Speaker 2No. Um, but it's ended up a good program. I like the way that they've, they've changed it around a little bit. I think this is a better spot for the CFL than the start of the autumn. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 5Yeah, totally. I think you're spot on. And I think the field sort of shows you that it's, um, it's, it's a really good field.
Speaker 7Yeah. You agree with that, Calvin?
Speaker 2I totally agree with you, Gary. Yeah. And, and sometimes it's okay to change. These things, but I think that if you can, um, the supporting cards, the supporting cards,
Speaker 5it's outstanding as well. Like it's just a, it just goes to show how, um, how good racing is going at the moment that we can. Usually you get to the end of the Flemington carnival and it's a right, everyone stops and we finish. Yeah. We're just, we're going so far into December now that it's, it's fantastic.
Speaker 2Especially if you've got a horse like Cosmic Crusader, it just keeps on running and everything. Um, Morning Boys Omni man was just as good as Small Fry in the Geelong Cup, but he failed since. Philip Stokes gets an opportunity with Small Fry. Um, so. Good horse. Yeah. So Joseph O'Brien will prepare him for Saturday's Sipping Classic. Then after that, he'll be prepared by Philip and Tommy Stokes.
Speaker 5That's good. Yeah. OTI have been very, very good to the Stokes boys. They have. They'd be, they'll do a very good job with Small Fry.
Speaker 2Yeah. Um, Morning Boys. Can you ask Calvin if he's expecting Corning to run well as she did in the Oaks and where does she move forward? I thought she was amazing.
Speaker 7That's from Deb. She was great. She would have won, ran fourth in the Oaks, maybe with a barrier would have ran second or third. Yeah. She's gone to the paddock and we'll probably aim her towards Adelaide. I think. Okay. I think, um, Sydney will come up a bit quick. Yeah. You should only get two or three weeks out, but I think Adelaide, um, that SA Filliers Classic could be a great race for her.
Speaker 2All right then. It's 8:58. We'll take a break. We'll come back with the top three training performances of the Carnival by Calvin and
Speaker 1Troy next. Live across Australia, this is Giddy Up with Gareth Hall.
Speaker 2It is a special day today here in Australia. It's Remembrance Day in New Zealand as we honour more than the two million Australians who have worn the nation's uniform and served and sacrificed so much for this country in wars, conflicts and peacekeeping operations. So at 10.56, we'll throw to a special package and then have a minute's silence and pay tribute to the men and women that have fought for this wonderful country of ours. So, yeah, it is a special day, Remembrance Day, and we'll pay tribute to our soldiers, men and women, who have served this country at 10.56 this morning here on Giddy Up and all across the Sports Entertainment Network platforms this morning. It's a minute past nine. We're continuing on the Wednesday agenda. Now, I set Troy Causton's and Calvin McAvoy a little bit of a, well, some homework there yesterday when we had a chat about what we'll be talking about today. And I wanted them to get their input on what they thought were the top three training performances of the Spring Carnival, both either in Melbourne or Sydney. And so take it away, Troy Causton. All right. We're going to kick off proceedings here.
Speaker 5I've thought about this long and hard. Yes. My third pick is Andrea Leake. She's done a magnificent job. So one, two, three. So you go. She's third. Oh, third. Yes. I'll go from the bottom to the top. Okay. How's that?
Speaker 2Andrea Leake, I think she's a little unlucky just to be third, but anyway. Well, it's my choice, not yours. It is, 100%. That's what I thought.
Speaker 5Start again. I shouldn't interrupt. Take it away, Troy Causton. Okay. So Andrea Leake goes first because she's done a magnificent job. And what she's done with that horse has been outstanding. Number two is probably going to have to be Kieran Ma for the first ever trainer to trifecta the Melbourne Cup. And number one goes to Will Larkin.
Speaker 2There you go.
Speaker 5Because I never, I never beat my own chest. We had 12 runners over the Flemington Carnival. We had a winner, two seconds and three thirds. And guess what? I'm very, very proud of what my team has done and Will and what Will's done. And I've been very busy doing all this sort of stuff and all the ATA stuff and he's really had to step up.
Speaker 2So he's my number one. Well done. Ground of applause for Will. Well done, Will. Sensational. He's in love as well. Yes, he is.
Speaker 5He's one of Kelvin's staff. Yeah. For a woman. For a person. For a person.
Speaker 7My turn? Yes. Okay. Third for me, Birdman. I think Birdman is an underrated horse. Like Chris Waller. Chris Waller, Birdman. He ran sixth in the Memsie. He then won the Underwood. Third in the Caulfield Stakes. Second in the Cox Plate. And won the Champion's Stakes. So he's held his form. Picked up two group ones. And I thought that was a really good performance. And I think that horse is always overlooked for some reason. So that's my number three. I think that's Chris Waller. Not Bear Man. Number two. Oh, sorry. It's a performance, right? Yeah. Training performance. Okay. Second is Kirimar, Point of Law. That horse, what he did was incredible. And the performance of, you know, one, two, three, five, six. But Point of Law went 15th. 15 weeks from his last run in Europe to running in the Geelong Cup. Yeah. And then 13 days into the Melbourne Cup and put up two peak performances. So he's a freak of a horse and a great performance. And number one, I think Cosmic Crusader. I mean, the horse, been to every dance, tough as nails. And that's my number one. Because, yeah, I agree with most of them.
Speaker 2I want you to have an input, Gareth. Well, mine would be pretty easy. I would give, um, I would give one to David Payne. David Payne, who was the first man to win the Oaks. He won with the job that he did with an unbeaten filly. Yeah, that was outstanding too. To win an Oaks, and the way that she won the Oaks. She was clearly the best filly, but there's not much of her. And he's been able to place her perfectly. She wins a spring champion, um, in Sydney. Group one against the boys, 2000 meters, and then comes and wins the Oaks. She's perfect as a three-year-old filly. Good trainer and good guy, David Payne too. Yeah. Which isn't easy to do. And stayed with us. Yeah. I reckon she's a star.
Speaker 7So you're claiming that one too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why he never beats his own chest though.
Speaker 2He started now. Yeah. He hasn't stopped. Um, number two is Cosmic Crusade, Andrea Leck. And I think Bob Peters plays a part. To be honest, Bob does a lot of, um, work with his trainers. And to be brave enough to give that horse that preparation that they did, and they started off in July, was truly a remarkable performance. Now they need the horse to do that. But they still need the, the, the, the guts to have a crack and give a horse a campaign like that. But to me, that's just knowing their horse. Knowing their horse back the front and understanding what brings out the best in him. So hats off to, to the team there with Cosmic Crusade and the number one training performance for mine. And there was a few over the spring carnival, but when you listen to the story regarding the genius of Kira Ma with Point of Law and how the horse bolted on the rider there and did four laps and when he's, um, and went ridiculous times and then Kieran didn't panic. He worked out a plan and then he understood and read the horse after learning what happened on that particular day and the way that he galloped the horse, um, say leading into the cup and what we learned from that. And then listening to trainers like Wayne Hawke saying, um, it was unbelievable to have the courage to do that with a horse that you don't know too much about, but to, to read that horse as quickly as he did. And then that horse to settle like he did after the Geelong Cup off that slow tempo in a Melbourne Cup. I think that was genius by Kira. It was an outstanding performance. I just didn't want to give Kieran too much credit. Everyone's patting him on the back.
Speaker 7So that's why he went number two. But I hear what you're saying. That was the number one training performance. We all agree. Yeah. Um, six minutes past.
Speaker 2Will Larkin was stiff, however. Six minutes past nine. I'm going to take all these text messages next and then we'll wrap up the Wednesday agenda straight after this. Six minutes past, Will Larkin was stiff, however. Yeah. Six minutes past nine, I'm going to take all these text messages next and then we'll wrap up the Wednesday agenda straight after this. Eight minutes past nine. I wouldn't be backing Jigsaw. few people in the text messages there for the winner bottom, I'll be backing Overpass. Especially if he's not going. I don't think he's going. So I would, yeah, I would leave that alone. Hopefully he got into Harry's yacht. He's firmed in nearly to $18 since Troy Coulson's broke the news. Hopefully you told the owners.
Speaker 5I did tell the owners. I made sure that I sent an update out this morning.
Speaker 7He doesn't have a big stable.
Speaker 5He's got 12 in work, I think. And I think he's like the stakes winners. He's got four or five stakes winners amongst that 12, which is, it's unbelievable. And you know what he is, other than a good trainer?
Speaker 2A better bloke. Yeah, he's a great bloke. He's a good fella. So I always find this interesting. So she's a two-time Group 1 winner, but she's an ugly filly. That's not my words. She's not ugly.
Speaker 5She's just small and light. She's petite. She's got big ears.
Speaker 2Well, that wasn't my words. That was David's words, I think, when he was in one of the interviews. So when she's, like her value as a broodmare, is it devalued because of her size? I don't think so.
Speaker 7When you're a two-time group, I'm with a great pedigree, which is what she's got. Yes. She's a full tour, half tour.
Speaker 5She's still growing. And she's got another sort of two, hopefully two to three years before she retires. She's every chance of filling out and being, she's worth a hell of a lot of money. I wish I owned her.
Speaker 2And history tells you, however, that it's not easy for these three-year-olds to make the next step to open class in the staying ranks. Like we might've seen maybe Eliana, she's a Group 1 winner, but she might be a little overrated, Eliana. Do you think she's overrated?
Speaker 7I mean, I would, I'm surprised that she didn't, she never won a Group 1 this spring, did she? No. Looked like she, one of those races would have been hers for the keeping. I suppose compared to her starting price and expectations, she probably underperformed a little bit, I suppose. But yeah, I'll have to look at it.
Speaker 2Hey guys, Chase here. What do you think about extending the spring carnival another two weeks next year? I think these boys looking at them this morning, they're buggered. I don't think they can go on for an extra couple of weeks.
Speaker 5We actually had a ripper time on Saturday night, didn't we? Where'd you go? We went to the Doot. The Doot, one of the second best pubs in the northern suburbs.
Speaker 2Behind the Ascot Vale Hotel and the Rising Sun. Well, those boys are big racing fans, aren't they? Yeah, they're great.
Speaker 5They're fantastic. And Jodie Harris down there looked after us a great deal.
Speaker 2How'd you go, Kelvin? Does Demi allow you to go out these days? Yeah, yeah. We've got a video of Kelvin dancing on Saturday night. Can you please send that to the boys?
Speaker 5Yeah, I will. Because I've got it and it's my video. I was home early at a
Speaker 7reasonable hour and I was up early on Sunday doing my best. So I'm fine.
Speaker 5We'll let the listeners rate him on his dancing.
Speaker 2I don't think so. All right, then. G'day, Garrett. Just wondering if Calvin is excited about what Proxima Day has achieved, given he has an unraced filly who had similar bloodlines from a hopeful owner that's from dj oh very
Speaker 7excited if you get some black type in the family is that the state of rest horse yeah let's put it down as the state of
Speaker 2rest yeah um why not autumn glow to dubai half the travel good money ask wallah well i don't think chris waller wants to travel these horses especially with autumn guy because i think he explained it quite well yeah there's too much money on offer in australia doesn't need to go no and if you travel that means you sacrifice a lot of prize money hi g ask the boys if they like to train a horse with this record 97 starts 77 wins 15 seconds three thirds and two fourths that's leap to fame that's from ross from queensland um troy has some prize success in perth with the astrologist what a warrior he was he's uh you know
Speaker 5what he never won a group one gareth but he won three million dollars and he sits up at my farm and he eats grass would have won a group one had he
Speaker 7stayed with the previous train
Speaker 5yeah i had a very good pre-trainer who had him uh calvin and tony did he yeah
Speaker 2what did you give him away or was he poached in a serious conversation how do you go about um in today's world all right if i'm a trainer and i might be and people might say you're an idiot gareth and that's not the way that you do business but how i see racing with a multi-million dollar business that it is it's it's it is like a business like you do have to go out and get horses don't you
Speaker 5yeah and at my one of my favorite sayings is you don't own owners so they're entitled to do what they want with their horse whenever they like um as long as they've got a majority um and you see horses changing all the time like you know uh the mayor that went from chris to um lucy like that was fantastic changing colors changing colors sorry i'm not good with names i think it i think
Speaker 7the game has changed a lot like it used to be an owner had a trainer and now everyone's more and um people have got shares in with with 20 different trainers so i think that's probably made the game better um so yeah i think it's very different to what it would have used to have been and we're probably we're
Speaker 5great mates as well and i think the camaraderie between trainers you know i don't think poaching goes on nearly as much as it used to i
Speaker 2think sometimes too that i'd love to sit down with chris waller and um have an hour chat with him it's difficult to get him for 10 minutes let alone an hour but the way that he set up his business he he has to go and not only is one of our greatest ever trainers but one of the greatest entrepreneurs like he could run any business what chris has done is nothing short of astronomical and i can't work out why people don't follow what he actually did yeah well it's not easy what do you mean gareth well um go out and and try and get the best horses and the best owners that you possibly can
Speaker 5we all we all do yeah yeah yeah we all do just with differing lots of success
Speaker 2but he yeah i think it's a fascinating study case yeah um 15 minutes past nine what winners have you
Speaker 7got for us we run a nice armory horse today at ballarat race one yeah nice armory horse uh in the 1400 he's drawn barrier one it'll be the shortest trip he wants but if he gets a bit of luck i think he can win today race one gun city gun city where will
Speaker 2you be in the run three pairs back the fence all
Speaker 7right then what about you i've got a really talented
Speaker 5mare running today called colada quincy but she misses the start and we've done so much work on her and cannot get her to um pick up and and and start properly if she did she'd be winning easily but she doesn't she just misses the flop and goes back and she is actually pregnant so it might be her last run unfortunately do they usually run better when they're pregnant some do some don't i haven't had too many to be honest i've probably had four or five
Speaker 2in my time okay there you go hey boys superb um it just never really stops these days you'll be live from perth are you going to go to perth yeah i'm going to go to
Speaker 5perth um i don't think i am i'll send will for the mate he will be there i
Speaker 7mean i won't i won't be
Speaker 5there i swear to god oh i can't because i'm going to i'm gonna i'm very very lucky i'm going on the australian race course managers association tour on tuesday and we're going to hong kong and we're going to visit every racetrack
Speaker 7he's going to learn about
Speaker 5air rating and then we go to japan and um i'm going over there on the same tour so i'm away for two weeks with the air rating do you think
Speaker 2it's good for the industry why did you
Speaker 5change the issue why did i just know
Speaker 2because you just brought that up i didn't air
Speaker 7rating we don't want to hear about your jolly troy no the
Speaker 2the air rating i'll still be i think
Speaker 7liam made a good point and if he doesn't do it didn't air rate that outside it becomes a fast lane and then i'll tell you what will happen it'll create falls he was clipping because every jockey will get to a bottleneck 100 that becomes dangerous when you've got an outside fence so yeah i think i don't think anyone can question no but do you think that no i'm not questioning
Speaker 2i know it's i actually do i
Speaker 5don't like to agree with too much but i didn't mind wayne's idea i knew that liam said you couldn't do it no but i didn't mind it i don't know if you can do it i don't think you can do it but i didn't mind the idea
Speaker 2it's like you try to explain to people about racing in times and you go how can plaintiff be tempted like even though she had a blade it's still one of the it'll be
Speaker 5one again but it's
Speaker 2just a great leveler then does
Speaker 5it go back to tactics does it is marks are smarter than everybody in that race i talked to a few of the jocks and mark hunter in fairness
Speaker 2final was the everest but you talk about safety what does say mcdonald's do does he try and just chop everyone off to get to the place if you draw where you are you're dictated to where the leader goes but it's a it's a difficult one we've talked about it enough yeah that's we did our money on jolly star the place anyway so we've got to move on i back point barrow i did you did mark hunter said it was no good didn't he i didn't listen to mark on it um anyway um hey boys thanks for that i'm going to have a chat to great addiction you should listen to him one of the best things i've ever done i've been on the greatest ever trainers but to leap to see leap to fame do what he did there yesterday calvin i know you've you've just got the biggest
Speaker 7smile on your face i'm gonna go watch it
Speaker 2i've watched it in the death seat i've learned about the death yeah yeah okay all right see you boys 18 minutes past nine we'll take a break grant dixon to join me next join the conversation
Speaker 1text us on 0 4 9 7 3 6 7 3 6 live across australia this is giddy up with gareth hall
Speaker 8but it's a race already at the 400 leap to fame draw the neck in front from swasey three white kingman swasey trying to come off the canvas marketplace needs a run 27 won the third quarter swasey kicked back from leap to fame kingman onto the scene and then came marketplace from better zanville leap to fame went past swasey tag mcleod getting through marketplace desperate for a run leap to fame's in front he leaves for marketplace and tag mcleod leap to fame leading leap to fame the champion completes leap to fame on the new zealand cup i think it was one of his
Speaker 2greatest triumphs if not his greatest triumph for leap to fame he's done it all in this beautiful sport of harness racing and he is the greatest of all time i said this yesterday he's the greatest that i've ever seen and i didn't see some of the greats before him but geez they would have had to be bloody pretty good to be better than leap to fame and you know i think it's a great thing to do and i think it's a great thing to do and i think it's a yesterday he won the new zealand trotting cup and as i said yesterday on social media i don't think it would have been fitting if leap to fame didn't have a new zealand cup next to his name he's been prepared beautifully for so many seasons now by grant and trista dixon and you just have a look at his record um he's closing in on 80 wins and he's won nearly seven million dollars in prize money and that is something else in today's world especially in the sport of harness racing so he is just doing remarkable things and he's trying to drive a grant dixon joins us now after winning yesterday's new zealand trotting cup hello to you grant was that his greatest triumph there
Speaker 9yesterday yeah i think it was yeah just um the amount of work he'd done and you know to fight off um all them good horses and uh yeah just the trip he had and some of them had a reasonable trip at him to beat him but he has you know done himself proud and fought him all off and he's had some
Speaker 2great drills over the years especially with swazy and it has been difficult for him to sit outside of swazy especially over the two miles but when i saw him travel up like he did to swazy and you know what to swazy's credit he's um older brother swazy never gave up the fight he wanted to come back at leap to fame but geez larry he was just he was he was different gravy there yesterday
Speaker 9yeah like you just you just know that swazy's never going to come back underneath you because he just keeps he just really just keeps going and going he just never knows how to stop so you you never think you're going to get past him because he's yeah he's like sometimes he tricks you thinking that he's under pressure but he just just keeps power and so but yesterday i did larry did just travel particularly well and we're all really well you know just so happy with him you know for the last fortnight over he just felt that he was as good as we'd had him and um i just hope that we you know realistically get to start got ahead of swazy but that never worked out cam this time to start perfectly and got the bounce on us so uh but you know we're lucky that it all worked out and we're able to still win what makes him
Speaker 2such a special horse grant like i know that you talk about him a lot and there's a lot of our thoroughbred listeners who are in awe of what he's been able to achieve throughout his illustrious career but what makes him so great what makes him different to
Speaker 9others um i think like he is uh like he is a really intelligent horse as far as like just a just a brilliant racehorse in himself He just doesn't waste any energy and he skates probably so economical and he's great will to win and probably his cruising speed is just a notch up on some of the others where they feel comfortable. He sort of can go quicker and still feels super comfortable at the speed that he's going. Does he realise how good he is? Oh, look, I think he knows he's pretty special. Yeah. Yeah, he's sort of got a bit of swagger about him when he walks around and stuff. But, you know, he has his quiet moments too where he just stands there a bit unassuming too. So we're super lucky to have him.
Speaker 2We had Calvin McEvoy and Troy Corsons. They join me every Wednesday, the Star Thoroughbred trainers here in Victoria, Grant, and they were trying to get me to explain what the depth. The depth seat is, and the depth seat is where you sit outside the leader. It's the toughest place to race and basically nearly the toughest place to win when it comes to the sport of hardest racing, especially in today's world when they're running the times that they're running. But Larry just seems to love it. He loves that spot outside the leader.
Speaker 9Yeah, probably just in so many times in races that, you know, the one that he's either had the beats being up near the lead, so obviously it pays to be closer to him. He does race there. Well, because he does really relax well and once he sort of knows that he can get on top of the leader, he sort of like feels like he just drops back another gear and sort of really swells up on the beat really good. So yeah, it's not really a problem for him.
Speaker 2Yeah. And he is a stallion. Has he shown any signs? Obviously not that he wants to change up his career there, Grant, or is he just love the game and love racing so much that he doesn't really think about that side?
Speaker 9Oh, look, at this point, he just really does enjoy racing and he enjoys doing his work and he loves his routine. So I suppose we'll just keep going until the point where he knows it comes into an issue or he just has enough.
Speaker 2Many say that the Inter-Dominion might be his last race coming up next year, but would there be a chance that you would consider coming back to defend his New Zealand title? If he wants to do it.
Speaker 9Oh, look, it'd be obviously at the end of the day, the decision finally lands with Kevin and Kay. But they'll still be sort of like, if he is still going like he is now, you know, maybe they might be tempted to go another, go all the way through to the New Zealand Cup again. You know, we'd like to, but, you know, but it all just depends on how Larry is in himself.
Speaker 2Yeah. And the big question everybody wants to know now is that will you be pushing on to the finish line? Free for all on Friday there at Addington and another clash with the horse that defeated him just in that famous Inter-Dominion final at Albion Park in July in Captain's Mistress.
Speaker 9Look, we're really happy how he pulled up. He ate up particularly well considering the run that he had and he was really bright going to the paddock. So at this point we've accepted and we're happy to keep, you know, keep pressing on towards Friday and just see how he, just monitoring him over the next few days that we're happy where he's at.
Speaker 2Yeah. Well, that is exciting. So when does the draw come out for that race? Must be, is it today sometime?
Speaker 9I'd say, I'd say later this afternoon.
Speaker 2Yeah. And just quickly before we let you go, Grant, what about the significance of that day yesterday for Harness Racing in Queensland with Gus to take out the Dominion and then Leap to Fame to take out the New Zealand Cup? Did you ever think that Queensland Harness Racing would ever see a day like
Speaker 9that? Oh, it's amazing. I think, you know, all the states that now have really, you know, really levelled up and like Gus has just been a, you know, like this showed so much potential when Pete and Chantel first got him and they've just managed him along and just got him to the, you know, been the top now. And yeah, like it was, it looked his race to lose yesterday and he had, you know, the start's tricky and he just put a couple of bobbles in and to his credit they've come that far. And, uh, do all the work and still win. It was a great run.
Speaker 2Yeah. And there's a lot of text messages coming through from our listeners in WA. You're still going to the Nullarbor. Is that still on the agenda?
Speaker 9Um, as far as I know, yeah, we're all, we're all still set to, um, come over. We're just, yeah, obviously just keep going towards these races and, um, making sure Larry's handling it all good and go from there.
Speaker 2Well, well done Grant. He's transcending the sport. Tristan does a wonderful job with him as well. Um, and what a performance from a, a training perspective and driving with him because to get him to turn up with the record that he's got is astonishing. He's obviously a superstar and a champion of the game, but to prepare him like you have, he's had close to a hundred starts and the further, uh, I think the, the, the, I think fourth is the further as he's finished back. So, um, what an extraordinary, extraordinary job that you've been able to do with him. And he's like, he never runs a bad race. So well done mate. And, um, bring on Friday.
Speaker 9Alright, thanks Gareth, appreciate it.
Speaker 2There's Grant Dixon, 29 minutes past nine. What a horse he is, leap to fame. And that will be a mouthwatering clash for Harness Racing fans. When he takes on Captain's Mistress, she's probably the best mare that we've ever seen taking on the best pacer that we've ever seen. Friday at Addington, that free for all, you do not want to miss that. We'll take a break. We'll come back with plenty more straight after this.
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Speaker 828.2 was the back straight quarter. Gus turned for home by four lengths from meant to be. Then rocking with attitude. Dash, Dosh and Habibti Pat inside the hundred he goes though. 200 rather, it's Gus by four lengths. Dash, Dosh, meant to be. Habibti Pat, they're trying in vain. It's Gus. And so. The story goes on. Two dominions and etched in the hall of fame. Gus does it again.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's a champion as well, Gus. As I said, when we just had a chat to Grant Dixon, it was a famous day, not only for harness racing in Australia, but especially for the industry in Queensland. And the job that Pete and Chantelle Turpin, Pete McMillan and Chantelle Turpin have done with Gus has been quite extraordinary itself. He started off his life in New Zealand and since he's been in the care of Pete and Chantelle, he's gone to a new level. It took them a little bit of time to, to work him all out. But now he is one of the best ever trotters that we've produced for quite some time. And Chantelle joins us here on Giddy Up. Congratulations, Chantelle. Well done. Thank you. Um, how, like, what was it like there in the buildup to the Dominion Handicap? Obviously New Zealand's biggest trotting race. Um, and you had the $1.30 favourite. What was that? What was the buildup like?
Speaker 10Um, it was a lot. Stressful this year. Um, last year we were the underdogs and this year we've gotten there and we're the favourite. So it was a lot more pressure on us this year, but, um, we were still able to enjoy it. And he showed his class.
Speaker 2Why do you love this race so much and heading to New Zealand?
Speaker 10Um, well, I think it's just, um, it's a great day over there. Like, I think anyone that hasn't gone there and experienced it really should. It's just, it's something that you've never experienced before, um, and just everyone in the whole city just gets involved and it's just packed. Um, it's, yeah, something that probably we don't have in Australia in the harness racing world. So, um, it's just an unbelievable day.
Speaker 2I've never seen Pete, of course, your husband salute like he did there on, on, um, or yes, after winning Dominion Handicap. He saluted for the last 200 meters. It was extraordinary to watch. I was so happy for him, but you don't usually see that kind of event. You don't usually see that kind of emotion from Pete McMullen.
Speaker 10No, he's not a very emotional person, so, um, it meant a fair bit to him. Um, I think he had a lot of pressure on him, um, driving him, but, um, yeah, he was, he was so relieved once it was done and he's just so proud of the horse.
Speaker 2I watched that replay on, on a few occasions and I was thinking like the, the class of Pete and his, his horsemanship to get him to trot once again, like he galloped for a few strides. And obviously, as you point out, there's a lot of pressure on Pete. And, um, to keep that horse calm and to get him to come back underneath him and then back into a trot, I thought that just showed the greatness of Pete McMullen under the most pressurized situation that you possibly could get in the sport with one of the superstar trotters galloping just after the standing start.
Speaker 10Yeah, I'm probably a little biased, but I think he is probably one of the best out there. Um, he really does love the horses and he's, he's got obviously. He's got great hands and, um, he just knows them so well and, and puts them in great positions.
Speaker 2Yeah. And, um, what do you do with him now?
Speaker 10Uh, he'll back up Friday. Um, yeah. And then, uh, look, if Pete has his way, he'll probably stay on and we'll head home, but, um, and he'll head to the North Island, but, um, I'd like to probably bring him home and, and maybe just get him ready for the Hammerhead mile and that inter, but, um. We'll just see how he goes after Friday.
Speaker 2we'll finally get to work out who actually is the boss between you and Pete in the next couple of, in the next week or so.
Speaker 10Yeah, we probably will. I'll probably say I'll get my way.
Speaker 2Okay. I'm tipping you. We'll get your way as well, knowing you, Chantel. Is there any chance you'll come and visit us in Melbourne? There is a great Southern star worth a quarter of a million dollars.
Speaker 10Yeah, look, it's easier for us to get to New Zealand than Melbourne. So, um, well, yeah, I don't know. We haven't really planned anything after New Zealand. That was our focus and, and we'll get through Friday and then we'll just see where we're at.
Speaker 2And we had Grant on just before with Leap to Fame, like you're a proud Queenslander. Like how significant was that day for the sport there in Queensland to see like a champion trotter and your champion pacer take out two of the most famous races, not just in Australasia, but in world races. Yeah, it was a special day. I love nothing more than watching him win.
Speaker 10It was a special day. I love it. Queensland was probably known to not have the better horses. But I think in the last 10 years or so, we've really stepped up and we've proven that we've got the horses and we can go with any other country, really. Larry, he's a freak. There's not a race that no one cheers for him. You always want to see him win. And, yeah, it was just unbelievable, both Queensland horses getting it done yesterday.
Speaker 2No, it was a special day. I love nothing more than watching our champions stick it up the New Zealanders because they did it for a long time, a long time. And they let us know about it, but it's so sweet that they can't get near us anymore. So you should, hopefully you let them know last night, Chantelle, but congratulations. What a job you've done with Gus and yep, good luck on Friday. Thank you very much. There's Chantelle Turpin. We'll take a break. We'll find you some winners with bag of tips next year on Giddy Up.
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Speaker 2ozequipment.com It is time for Bag of Tips for racing at Warwick Farms, Scona, New South Wales, Ballarat in Victoria, Eagle Farm in Queensland, Belmont in the west, Balaclava in South Australia. We've got night racing at Launceston. So it is a very busy bag of tips this morning. We're on a soft five. The rail's at nine metres at Ballarat. Let's get a track update there with Nick Stubbs. Nick, hello to you. Thanks for joining us on Giddy Up, mate. Morning, Gareth. How are you? Good, thank you. Eight races. What's the conditions looking like there this afternoon at Dowling Forest?
Speaker 11It's a nice sunny morning. expected to get to a top of 19 degrees but there is a bit of wind about and it's meant to increase throughout the day sort of get up to around 30 kilometers an hour wow so what impact would that have on the pattern i don't think it shouldn't affect that too much because we're we are pretty protected with the way it's coming across yeah and there'll be a bit of a tailwind sort of coming out of the chute races then other than that it'll be sort of across wind across from in the home straight um the main sort of effect that we'll have is it will continue obviously we're a soft pipe at the moment but if this wind keeps up it'll just continue to dry out the profile throughout the day
Speaker 2all right so we'll get to maybe a good four
Speaker 11i assume we will yeah yeah just the way this wind is at the moment and it's meant to get stronger so i definitely wouldn't be surprised if we got two or four throughout the
Speaker 2day and how is she going mate your big day is not far away now ballarat cup day getting close three weeks on saturday so
Speaker 11that's exciting yeah so you've got the rail out nine and then we'll go back into true for cup day but um no very happy and just fingers crossed every day we keep loading up the weather to see the long range prediction but at the moment it looks good but a lot can change as
Speaker 2we know well it's just it's like i've never seen a club have that much bad luck when it comes to their big race days like ballarat has in previous so if any club deserves to have a beautiful sunny day it is bellarat oh we're hoping for we'll cross our fingers and toes and everything as well so we'll try well hopefully you deserve it mate and hopefully the weather does go your way and um i'm looking forward to this meeting some nice horses going around and it looks like we might have a good four track to work with as well so we appreciate you coming on to give us that update mate thank you there we go there's Nick Stubbs from Ballarat. Mishy Lewis is joining us now. Benny Clues, he's not far away. Hello to you, Mitch. Yes, morning, G. How are you today? Good, thank you, mate. What was your highlight over the spring carnival? Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 12Yeah, yeah, very good. Different for the last couple of years, sitting at home watching, but I must say, I mean, probably watching Point of Law, G. What upside he's going to have going forward with a sort of lightly raced runner. Be exciting to watch for this Australian, saying prospects, I suppose.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's going to be fun to see what he can do in the autumn.
Speaker 12From a personal point of view, gee, I was struggling a little bit on Oaks Day and I was on Ray Magnerio going for a run. Pause the run to watch that and screen that on. That was good watching from a personal perspective
Speaker 2on the phone. It was exciting to see what Ray did. Pikey down the outside, there's nothing really better than that. And Ray's such a popular horse as well. And he's heading to WA. I think him and Overpass are going to fight out the winner bottom. I can't see the locals challenging those two horses this year.
Speaker 12I tell you, G, with the hints you were dropping for your slot race, I thought you had Ray locked in. I was wondering. I thought, oh, G must have landed a big one here. But Mazu is a very good find as well. But I thought you were leaning. I was going to text you, and I thought you were hinting at Ray.
Speaker 2I'd rather Mazu around Cranbourne than, say, Ray McNeary over 1,200 metres. Now, I could be wrong, but Ray's going to be hard to beat in Perth. I reckon Ray's better off in that 1,400-metre race, but like the race that he won last year.
Speaker 12Pikey on board with him now. That suits him, doesn't it? They've got a good association.
Speaker 2Yeah, 100%. Hey, Paulie Sebastiani, what's our boost for us today as I say hello to you?
Speaker 13Good morning, gentlemen. Yeah, BetBoost comes up at Ballarat. It's the Mitchell Friedman-trained Familia Race 2 No. 6. Haven't got a price just yet. We'll have that confirmed very, very shortly, so make sure you're refreshing your Bet365. 325. There you go, $3.25, so it is updated. Fantastic. So you can get onto that now. So race two, number six, familiar at Ballarat today.
Speaker 2Race three is over the 1,100 metres. That is a good race. There's some nice horses. I know that Henry DeWire's got a lot of time for Mount Joy. Pocket full of cash for Rhys Goodwin. So that's a good little race. Benny Caluzzi's been everywhere. He's just arrived, and we appreciate him coming here into the studios. He always does on a Wednesday. Hello to you, Benny.
Speaker 14Hello, mate. How are you?
Speaker 2How'd you get through the carnival?
Speaker 14First two days, good. Yeah. Last two days, not good. Okay. I escaped just in front, though, so I'll take it. Well, that is a great carnival. Yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 2We've got our future show coming up for WA after 11 o'clock. You're more than welcome to stay and participate. Have you played any futures there?
Speaker 14I have back Basset Hound in the Winterbottom. Okay. I think I got about $15. Yeah. So that's the only bet I've had. Jeez, that's brave.
Speaker 2You'll need to improve out of sight, the Basset, won't he?
Speaker 14He does, but like Overpass has probably passed his absolute best and Ray Magnerio is no champion. So I don't think it's as strong as some people think. I thought Overpass was excellent in the Sydney Stakes. It was good. Yeah. He was good, but he's not at his absolute peak form.
Speaker 2He'll still beat the Bassett, even though I love Bassett. Let's have a look at this Ballarat car. We'll start off in race number one, which is a maiden over the 1,400 meters. Scratch the one, four and five here, Benny Caluzzi. And I'll just get this to load up very shortly, G. I can go through the prices.
Speaker 14Yeah, you go for the first one.
Speaker 2Sorry, Matt. Goodness is the favorite here at $2.30 for the Freedmans. It was pretty good first up. And then you got Royal Maximus at $2.60. We got a good push from Calvin McEvoy with Gun City. He said, this horse is nearly a bet today. $5.50 with bet $3.65. How do you read this race, Mitchie Lewis?
Speaker 12Yeah, tough enough to sort of kick off, particularly with where the market's leaning on. I thought with the race fitness, Goodness would have the advantage from Barrier 3. Gets a soft run, has a run under her belt. So I thought she'd be hardest to beat from Royal Maximus and Gun City. They're both first up. And for me, it was just where Gun City might get to in the run from Barrier 1. But, you know, first up here, second run, he might be a little bit more forward than we saw in Dubu. And then pick him after that, round out the numbers with the seven, stomping ground. But I think it's a race in three, the eight, the three, and the six.
Speaker 2Eight, three, and six in race number one.
Speaker 12Throw in the seven there for those round out the numbers, G, but I think one of those winners comes from the first three.
Speaker 2Eight, three, six, and seven. Race two, scratch the five, and this is a class one over the 1,000 metres here. What are you thinking here with the market, Benny Caluzzi?
Speaker 14Yeah, well, they've really come for the Amelia Park horse here and Familia into $2.80, a really strong go here from Lucifer's Girl, $3.50. Dynamite Dancer just holding its price at $4, and then Regina DeRay is also $5.
Speaker 12Just, I'm a little bit wary in this, G. I think Familia's probably the horse with the best upside. First up here. But what I'm wary of is what the seven Lucifer's girl might be able to do. Now, she come out and won an easy maiden at Panola, but it's how she won it which is impressive. She's won by nearly eight lengths and did a few things wrong. If she gets a couple of kilos off, so she's got no weight. If she goes forwards again and there's no pressure, I just think she'll be hard for a horse like Familia to pick up. So I'm just wary there. See how the track plays in the first, but yeah, if it suits on speed, I think we'll Lucifer's Girl could just pull the upset here. But six is the clear danger. They're the two, in my opinion. I had the two, Dynamite Dancing around out there, other number there, and the three, Regina DeRay. But yeah, it's six or seven for me. I've just learnt the way of the seven.
Speaker 2I can't wait for that clash. Lucifer's Girl and Familiar there in the second race at Ballarat today. Race three over the 1,100 metres, benchmark 64. This is a good little race as well. No scratchings to report. What's the market doing, Ben?
Speaker 14Yeah, the market is all over the favourite here. Pocket full of cash. Was a backable price pretty much all the way up until this morning and now has hit the red. $1.95, pocket full of cash. Was better than $3 on Monday. From strength within, $5. Running rich is $8 on the drift and Mount Joy's 10s.
Speaker 12Yeah, we were on yesterday, Jim, when I was on with Pauly. I reckon he was around $2.40, pocket full of cash. He was one of the better ones, so they've just continued to get into him. I'm not going to jump off. Hopefully, if you got on yesterday, well down in grade. Has good speed. Puts himself into the race. I think he'd be hard to beat. I really like the one, Harry Met Sally, but I thought he was a runner that might have improvement to come over a bit more ground after this run. I think he'll run a race, Blake Shin on, but he might be one that will be blackbooking after the run. From the nine, strength within, Linda Meach on, another positive ride you'd expect, and the two, Mount Joy, to round them out.
Speaker 23-1-9-2 after race three. Race four over the 1,400 metres, benchmark 66. Scratchings are clear. Kulitar Queen, I should tell you how you pronounce her, Kulitar Queen is the mare there for Leon and Troy Causton's, and we were larking. Troy gave her a good push today. I don't know what price we're getting there.
Speaker 14There you go. $10 for Kulitar Queen. Just needs to jump. I think Clint Hutchison was keen on the one and set me free, but the market is as follows. Centenary Florin, $3.50. From Ferracta, $3.60. Ladar is $4.20, so a good little battle for favouritism there. And Rapid Chevelle has been $11 into $7 for Richard Laming. A bit of a move.
Speaker 2And that's like when they back one, you've got to take note, don't you, Mitchie? Yes, of course.
Speaker 12It's a very sort of changing market from what I've had a look a few times here. But the way I'd lent here was the six for Racta. I thought this horse, I thought enough of her to send her over to the SA Carnival in some listed races there, but she didn't have much luck from some wider barriers. Good resuming run at Bendigo was going to be better, over more ground, and then went to Pakenham, finished midfield there. But in that race, I think that was that transfer meeting from Cranbourne to the Pakenham Synth. I don't think she liked the surface. I think she's better than that run. She sticks at the 1,400 metres. She's won a try, a jump out since that Pakenham run. So I think she can bounce back. She looks the one to me. I've gone from the four, Centenary Florin, who's going to be on speed, hopefully, in a good position. Set me free, resumes. He's probably going to be another one that you'd black book off this run, but I think he can run well. Fresh, he just might be better over more ground. And then the two, Lad Ha, but yeah, I like Farrakta in this race. I think if she's at her best, she'll be hard to beat.
Speaker 2So 6-4-1-2 in race number four. Mitchie Lewis, of course, from betsy.com.au. If you want Mitch Lewis's full set of tips for South Australia, most of the Melbourne meetings as well. Is that right, Mitchie? You go to betsy.com.au?
Speaker 12Correct. I pop up every now and then for Victoria. Most of the time, it'll be a Sunday or at the minute. If you're after some Friday night, tips, we're doing the full set on Friday nights at the minute. See if we can build some bank for the weekend, G.
Speaker 2Race number five is Emerging Stars Series Heat number seven over the 1,200 metres. It's a maiden, of course. Two 10 and 11 come out here, Benny Caluzzi.
Speaker 14Yeah, it's been a strong push all week for a first starter by I'm Invincible in De Niro. $2.50 now from Gammadale Paddy, $4.40. Black Belt is also first time at the races, $6.00. And Ford of Dreams, $6.50.
Speaker 12Yeah, big market push. For me, trial form-wise, it hasn't really jumped out, but the breeding's there. I'd suggest maybe they've been trying to keep it a little bit quiet, G. But I've lent away a race experience. I went with the three Ford of Dreams. He sort of got in an awkward position last start at Cranbourne, still stuck on really nicely. I thought if he could be a little bit more positive with the race experience, it might help him. So he's sort of represented an each-way play. I'm not super confident in this race with the debutant there, De Niro. So he was a little bit more confident. He was my next pick. He might just blow him out of the ground, I thought. Race experience next for the eight for Tej Weir, Gammadale Paddy. And then the six, Black Belt for the Hawks team. Barrier one on Zaboo, I thought, could land in a good position as well. But low confidence race, I was 3.786.
Speaker 2Race six is the second leg of the quaddi. Benchmark 66 over the 1,400 metres. Scratch the 11 here, Benny Caluzzi.
Speaker 14Yeah, we went up $7 for Untapped on Monday, so we clearly got that wrong. It's now $4.20 in favourite. A strong go. Equal for us. Favourite, I should say, from Grifter. He's been a slight drifter, $4.20. Impressive enough, he's $5.50. And Trabilco, it is out the door, $4.40 to $6.50.
Speaker 12Yeah, I like the 10, Grifter G. Good win at Warrnambool last start on a good track. I don't know if he loves soft ground, so I was glad to hear the track report before we might be getting an upgrade because I think that might be the key to him. He hit the line nicely last start at Geelong on a soft six, but I think he's better suited on good ground. He gets up in trip. I think he'll hit. He'll hit the line well, and I think there'll be enough speed in the race with the eight. Impressive enough. And Hawksy's horse, Trebelchio. So I think he's set up to run on. I had Trebelchio as the next pick. That win over at Morpheville was very good. It was a good ride from Noel Callow, but sets up well from barrier one. From the eight, Rees's horse, impressive enough. They'll be up on speed in a strong position, and the two untapped. I had to round out the numbers. 10, 5, 8, 2. But keen the 10.
Speaker 2All right, then keen the 10. 10, 5, 8, 2. In race number six, race number seven. And this is over the 1,600 metres, benchmark 62. Scratch the four and the 11 here, Benny Caluzzi.
Speaker 14Yeah, the market wants to be a flying pop-off yet again. $3.80 into $2.80 with only the eight cents of deductions to get a long way back last time. From Mr. Martini, $4.40. It's a strong go as well. Orbane is $5.00. And Celestial Splendour rounds out the top four, $7.50.
Speaker 12Benny mentioned it there. That was my concern on flying pop-off. He can get a long way back. And in awkward positions in his races. I know he's up to the 1,600 metres. But at that price, I feel like it's a risk if he's going to find himself out the back again. I thought value in the race was the seven orbane because Linda Meach in the saddle barrier won. The horse has speed. There's no real pressure outside of it. I thought maybe the two tempt the gods. But we know what Linda's like if she's allowed to dictate up on speed. And that could just leave flying pop-off a lot to do. So I had the seven on top from the five. I thought the 10 Celestial Splendour showed a bit of improvement last start. The win at Kilmore. This is harder, but suited at the 1,600 metres. And the eight missed the martini to round him out. Disappointing last start. But his form previous at this track was much better. So he could probably bounce back. Seven, five, 10, and eight.
Speaker 2And then we go to the last race. 1,200 metres. Benchmark 62. The emergencies of the 12 and 13 come out here, Ben.
Speaker 14Yeah, deadly force. Appreciated getting back on dry ground. This prep, $3.20 in favourite. Really well backed from lucky single, $3.50. It's been one of the bigger firmers in this race. Hawkinspur, $6.50 on the drift. And Illuminance is tens.
Speaker 12Sort of roughy value play in this, G. The one led Braves for Robbie Griffiths. This horse, I went back and had a look this morning. The Pakenham run last start, they said that he didn't handle the ground. That was only a soft five, but it was at night. So I wonder if there was something in that. The win before at this track over the 1,000 metres, he had absolutely nowhere to go and exploded late. I think if he runs up to that, he could be. He proved pretty hard to beat at the 1,200 metres. So I'm hoping there's some big improvement. I think there's enough price to find out. So I was the one there from the two, deadly force, good last start win. Just the wider barrier, maybe where he's going to get to in the run was my little query. The eight lucky single, good form last prep can build on that and the three hook and spur. But yeah, one led Braves I thought maybe was going to be a value play.
Speaker 2All right, then one led Braves in that final race there at Ballarat today. What about your best bets there, mate?
Speaker 12Yeah, race three, number three, pocket full of cash. We mentioned that for a couple of days now. So hopefully he gets the job done there. Race four, number six, Barakta and race six, number 10. I don't know if they were the three there. Oh, and the value play in the last. I think we'll see how we're going in the last, but yeah, led Braves.
Speaker 2Race eight, number one as well. Quality numbers, mate?
Speaker 12All right, leg one, we are going the three to eight, the seven to six, and we'll throw to the left. We're going to throw the five in as an extra pick. Yes, leg two. Leg six, sorry, leg six, we're going race six, 10, five, eight, and two. Yeah. Then the third, we are going seven, five, 10. Yes. And bringing it home in an open race, I had the one, the two, the eight, the three, the five, and the 10. So I think it's a bit bigger this week, but there's some. There's some value, I think, in legs one and four.
Speaker 2So three, eight, seven, six, five, first leg, 10, five, eight, two, third leg, second leg, seven, five, 10, third leg. And then we come home with one, two, eight, three, five, and 10 in that final leg. Stay with us, Mitch. You've got to take a break. It's 58 minutes past nine. We'll come back and we'll have a look at your best bets at Strathalbyn.
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Speaker 2499-736-736. Benny Caluzzi and Mitchie Lewis is my special guest. Of course, having a look at that meeting at Ballarat, just recapping his numbers there from a best bet perspective. Race 3, number 3. Race 4, number 6. Race 6, number 10. And race 8, number 1. I mean, he's quaddie. 3, 8, 7, 6, 5, first leg. 10, 5, 8, 2, second leg. 7, 5, 10, third leg. And then 1, 2, 8, 3, 5, and 10 in that final leg. Mitchie Lewis, thanks to betsy.com.au. You can get all of Mitch Lewis's tips there, especially for the South Australian meetings on betsy.com.au. He's done the form for Balaclava. What's your best there, mate?
Speaker 12Yeah, best bet, G. Race 5, number 7, so polite. Comes out of a good sprint race. On Ghoul, a tough day a couple of weeks ago. Came a close third there. This is easier. Gets to a track where she's got a consistent record. And she'll settle on speed. It's been nice and dry up at Balaclava. And generally, if that's the case at that track, you want to be up on speed and close to the rail. I think she'll be in that position. So she's the best one for me there. And good to see a bit of market move this morning.
Speaker 2So that's race 5, number 7. All right then, brother. I love the support there for that galloper. And I love it when you're tipping it as well. Race 5, number 7. Good on you, Mitchie. Boy, how's that? A lot of text messages coming through. Mitch had the pads on already. A spot available in the test team at the moment.
Speaker 12Yeah, well, we'll see. I'll tell you, G, it's been a disappointing start to the year. I've broken two trigger bats in two weeks. So expensive. We'll have to see. So if anyone's out there, let me know. Hit me up.
Speaker 2Is that because you've lost your temper?
Speaker 12No, no. I'll tell you, I've never done this, G. I'll tell you. I played a pool shot a couple of weeks ago. I middled it. And the bat shattered in the air and nearly hit the fielder out at square leg. And the ball went for four. So I got away with that. But I've never done that before. You know, when they explode in the air?
Speaker 14No. When's your book coming out, Mitchie?
Speaker 12Yeah, when is your book coming out? I don't know anything about that. I'll tell you, I was in the UK when all that happened. You should have seen the year of sledging I popped off the back of that South African tool.
Speaker 2Now, be honest, Mitchie. I'm going to ask you a question here. I don't want to put you on the spot. But have you ever used sandpaper?
Speaker 12No, not sandpaper.
Speaker 2Something else. I don't know. When I was. When I was playing cricket, everyone used to cheat. Like, you used to have lollies. A bit of gum.
Speaker 12Gum. Sunscreen. No, I'm still playing. I've been the same. I don't do anything badly. But, no, I guess the easiest one is to, yeah, you know. Why? Come on, Mitch. put the ball back in along the ground a couple of times. Okay, yeah. Or throwing it into the paper on the bounce and stuff like that. But I haven't taken anything deliberately out to shine a ball.
Speaker 2No, not like a mint or anything like that? Nah, nah. That's
Speaker 12not really ever been my. my type of thing.
Speaker 2Oh, I wouldn't. I haven't done anything like that, but I've heard it, of course. But there's a lot. Yeah, yeah. People have been tampering with balls since I was.
Speaker 12Forever. Yeah. Like, I've known some stuff, but, yeah, I haven't participated in it myself. Yeah, well, I can't wait. or something like that. It's been all of the stuff in the pocket, like.
Speaker 2Can't wait. I can't wait for the book anyway. Do you play with the two-piece or four-piece?
Speaker 12Four-piece, yeah. We're on the grass.
Speaker 2Yeah, there you go. Yeah. All right, mate. Good on you. Mitchie Boy, you're a star. Nah, thanks, boys. Good luck, everybody, today. There's Mitchie Lewis. I've just got a text message here through from Roy. G-Man, breaking news from the West. Now, I need to get this confirmed or not. I don't know if it was on Scotty Cummings and Gossage's show over in Western Australia, but Josh Parr obviously is out. Blake Shin has been booked to ride over pass. There you go. That's big news. That is big news and a great booking. B. Shin, I can just picture it, the day that he took bustling to the front in the Caracatta. It was like poetry in motion. It was. With the way that he sits on a horse around that Bennett Ascot. He basically never looked like he got out of second gear with that horse.
Speaker 14Now, are they thinking the 1,400-meter race as well or just the winter bottom this year? They'll probably go to both.
Speaker 2Yeah. Because if you're over there, you're over there, aren't you? Might as well. Might as well. And he was third, wasn't he, in the race last year? Yeah, he ran a great race. Yeah. Mark Roden joins us. We're at Warwick Farm this afternoon. That's a metropolitan venue there in New South Wales. We're on a good four. Four rails, true seven races. Hello to you, Mark. Good morning, Gareth. How are you? How is overpass going? I reckon he's like $5 is a gift, I reckon, for the winter bottom.
Speaker 15Well, he goes well over there, doesn't he?
Speaker 2I thought he was good in the Sydney Stakes.
Speaker 15Yeah, I suppose. I mean, it's got to come to an end someday. He's getting older. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know if he's come to the end of it just yet.
Speaker 2No. I think there's another big route. And it could be in the winter bottom. What price is he? He's still $5 overpass in the winter bottom stakes. All right, mate. What do you make of this track at Warwick Farm today? How do you think it'll play?
Speaker 15It looks like there's possibly a shower around this morning. But, look, it won't do too much to it, I think. It's going to be a good surface. Rails, too, should be pretty fair. Maybe just a bit off fence in the straight.
Speaker 2All right, then. Let's have a look at the seven race program. We'll start with a maiden over the 1,400 metres. Scratch the seven.
Speaker 14Seven here. Bit of confidence about the one here in quarterback, J-Mac, Chris Waller. $2.30 from Bogey Free. That is the stable, mate. $4. Also, a bit of specking. Palm tree, $5. So, Waller's got three in this. And how do you go with this one? Charmere is $8.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's it. Charmere for the free. Charmere. Lucky they scratched the seven anyway. What are you thinking here, Mark Roden?
Speaker 15I'm pretty keen on the favourite quarterback. It was a solid favourite at this track last time out. And if you saw the race, it was at a complete train wreck. I was posited up behind him and just never, ever got out. This race is probably easier, I think. And you're getting roughly the same price. So, I think he does look the one to beat. I thought the six, Shahame Wood, was the main danger, actually. He hasn't done anything wrong. Narrowly beaten at Newcastle last time out. Drawn for a good run. Bogey Free, the runner. Nash Fooks, obviously, some confidence around it. It just does look a bit harder than the maiden at Warrnambool. It's contested on Dubu, though. And. Number four. Fourth, I'll put in number four, Schmitzel, Arouge.
Speaker 2All right, then. One, six, two, and four in the first race. Quarterback just needs a little bit of luck this time around. He'll get the job done, surely. Water City is out. The nine in race two, which is another maiden over the 1,200 metres.
Speaker 14Another pretty open race for Sharko on debut. Our $3.40 favourite from single ladies, $4. Miss Supernova's been a little bit of a drifter in this market. $4.20 out to $4.60, plus the deductions. And this has been a huge, huge go for Tusk and Charm. We put up $21 on Monday. That was clearly wrong. It's now into $5.50, G.
Speaker 2Wow. What do you make of that first start of Tusk and Charm, Mark?
Speaker 15Yeah, hard to know. I mean, I'm not surprised there's been money for either of the first starters, including for Rishaka in that, because the race brigade aren't that good, to be honest. So, Rishaka was found early, obviously. It sort of came off. It wasn't asked to do anything in its trial. It clearly had plenty left in their book, McDonald's, so you can see the reasoning for that. So, Tusk and Charm's trial was okay, but maybe it's just a process of elimination thing. You know, they're already on the other end race, and you don't want to back the race division. So, that could be driving it. And, obviously, we'll have to see what happens in the last five minutes, too.
Speaker 2Yeah. So, your numbers?
Speaker 15Anyway, I landed on four Rishaka, just, again, by a sort of process of elimination. I don't think there's much to beat amongst the race and the booking of McDonald's as a strong lead. Thought two, Miss Supernova, who I'm not surprised, was the best of the race, but, yeah, she's no superstar, that's for sure. Been a bit of money, too. It's getting a bit easy now. Number five, Single Ladies to the Waterhouse Yard and have to throw in Tusk and Charm somewhere. These are the ones the money's come for, but not a great deal of confidence there.
Speaker 2All right, four from two, but a race that we might go and have some lunch. Race three over the 1,200 metres. Scratch me, Scandal. And Tokariki comes out as well, the debutante for Maddie Smith. So, four and eight. This is a benchmark 68, what's the market doing here, Ben?
Speaker 14Market's around one horse, really. Priory Park, $1.55. Plenty of Bet365 punters are using it in their multis from Regal, $5.50. Latest Payton had some good form of last, perhaps $6.50, and Bailey's Folly is $7.50.
Speaker 15Yeah, very hard to get away from the market here, I thought. Look, at the odds on, just my one word of caution with Priory Park is that clearly its two best runs have been over 1,000 metres, and the two times it's gone beyond 1,000 metres, been unplaced. That said, it was a dynamic win over 1,000 at Kembler, first up, excellent last 200 metres. So, you wouldn't think the 1,200, especially in a small field, would be the end of it, especially with McDonald on. But if I was to be scared of something, it would be that distance rise. Six Regal, definitely the one to beat, won a maiden same day as Priory Park, actually, by seven lengths. Times and sections weren't as good, though. And yeah, the other two in the market, I think, are the only other dangers. Let us Payton, number three, and Bailey's Folly off a reasonable win at now at number five.
Speaker 2All right, then. So, what price would you take this favourite?
Speaker 15Oh, look, I'd like evens, but I wouldn't hold my breath about getting it.
Speaker 2Race number four, which is the first leg of the quaddie over the 2,100 metres, benchmark 72. No eight or nine. They're both out here. What's the market doing now with a field of seven?
Speaker 14Yeah, four genuine chances, they say, and they start with Blenheim Girl, our $3 favourite from Zonkstar, $4.20. Hallowed Halls are just holding its price at $4.80, and there's been. Been a bit of support for Rye Manhattan, $5.50 into $4.80 as well. yeah i totally
Speaker 15agree it's just those four dealers to stand out in a pretty thin race uh i'm landed on ryan manhattan number six largely because it comes out of a different race than the other three they all raced each other at this track last time out ryan manhattan o'shea charlton runner lightly raced nice maiden win at hawksbury not outstanding but solid maiden win at hawksbury last start and does look to be on the way up landed on him um now sorting out the other three i went we're number one hallowed hall second from three zonstar and then four blenheim girl but you could have them in any order only caution with the uh favorite i think she's a bit short considering she's up um four kilos off her win last start and the others are pretty much the same weight so that's my knock on her but uh even race and uh yeah mark it's not too far wrong six one three
Speaker 2and four there um in the first leg of the quaddie for mark road and we go to race five this is a 72 over the 1300 meters kajanga is the scratching here the six benny it is and it
Speaker 14leaves shady road two dollars 90 in favorite after six cents of deductions bryant ran second so you're not the king last time and it's been one of the big firmers seven into five duvana five dollars fifty and big tiger 750 uh yes as uh benny
Speaker 15just pointed out there bryant of a second to you're not the king who came down to flemington during cup week and won very nicely uh i can see with that why there's been money for it and i agree with that push put it on top from uh shady road number four uh very good run first up here last time over 1100 the 1300 worries me a bit she does have a saturday city placing over 1300 last um at the end of her last prep but she wasn't really charging through the line she told her run and come to an end so i just have a slight query on her at 1300 uh next best number seven senjutsu bjorn baker runner off a not a tough win at long first up not brilliant but uh did okay interesting runner for fourth number two duvana um has won fresh before and that has been booked which signals a bit of intent but uh don't mind number three
Speaker 2bryant here so bryant number three from the four there in race five um and duvana is an interesting run as you pointed out with nash book there for nathan doyle race six 1600 meters over for the benchmark 72 gallopers scratched eight nine and ten here benny kaluzi yeah well we put
Speaker 14a piece for chili mugs and naina on monday it's been all about chili marks now 2.50 in favor from naina or naina uh 3.20 on the second line like a storm seven bucks and burn the sky eight dollars but chili marks pretty popular
Speaker 15here yeah i can see why uh third up now did enough first up uh over 1200 at rose hill then uh was three deep all the way uh here over 1400 last start and uh not surprisingly weakened uh low draw here drawn for a soft run might just need a little bit of luck getting um getting a run west needs to but uh that aside it does look the one to beat niner um or however it's pronounced um got a hell of a long way back um last start it was tailed off and closed off and you know really well to be beaten only three lengths but um if it gets that far back again it'll gonna have its work cut out again but uh mcdonald is on and obviously has a good chance um it falls away after that to be honest like a storm was going well with then ran a laugh favorite at newcastle last start but some chance on its best and similar story for burn the sky last is favorite here last time out that was okay before that but uh what are you saying there seven three two six seven
Speaker 2three two and six but maybe a race in two according to mark and chili marks and naina now we go to race seven scratch chili marks it goes around and race six the nine twelve thirteen and fourteen come out of this benchmark 64 over the mile here ben yeah so about 20 cents
Speaker 14the deductions come out of this one out of line is now our favorite three dollars eighty and it's been met with some really strong support from made in italy four dollars sixty or is five dollars and aladdin's girl is five dollars fifty but this market's still finding its feet after the
Speaker 15scratchings yeah quite like uh the six aladdin's girl here um first up at illawarra grange for jay mcdonald came from well back strong win uh then closed off nicely at kensington got in a pretty awkward spot here last start um second last in the run they weren't going that hard i thought it closed up all right and that gave me the impression that was actually looking for 1600 now and jmax back on uh donatello ran second in that race he's come out and run second in southern day grade twice since then so that form looks uh fine for a race like this i have six on top uh got uh sorry out of line interesting runner clearly been met has met with some solid support early in this race she was uh she was terrible at newcastle last start um and has trialed okay since look she was good first up uh i'll say that and uh got the good jockey change today but the market just seems to be saying it'll find its best but uh you wouldn't really want to be backing it as favorite off its last start uh beyond them i have to eight made in italy who um won uh nicely in maiden grade at wine last start drawn for a good run here and i thought uh blue-eyed bridget who actually won on the same day as made in italy last start ran better time but it was it wasn't much faster pace also had some sort of chance but uh quite keen on uh number six aladdin's girl
Speaker 2at the price so six two eight and seven there for mark road in the final event there at warwick farm your best bets mate
Speaker 15i think quarterback looks the obvious in race one and a bit more value the one in the last uh aladdin's girl race seven number six so
Speaker 2we'll just double up with waller and mcdonald there bookend the program race one number one race seven number six and what about a quaddie
Speaker 15uh yeah okay it was pretty thin uh pretty thin if you really can't we'll
Speaker 16go one three
Speaker 15six four uh race five uh we'll have to yeah two three four and seven uh the third leg will go a bit thinner just those two favorites three and seven and in the last um i'll leave that free so i'll go two six seven and eight beautiful all right
Speaker 2then so one six three four first leg two three four seven second leg we'll play the two horses the seven and three and then we'll come home with six two seven and eight in that final leg you're a star mark we appreciate your time good luck today at warwick farm
Speaker 15no problem gary thanks
Speaker 2a lot there's mark rodent there a bet three six five boost horse race two number six familiar and that is at bellarat today 325 the boost horse is so um that's a good push there from paulie sebastiani mitch friedman prepares and benny caluzzi we appreciate your time as well mate have you got anything for us
Speaker 14today i don't but i'll be keeping a keen ear in for your future show yeah more than welcome to
Speaker 2stay it's just after 11 o'clock that's right
Speaker 14i'll head home because i probably don't have as much to contribute but i've got much to learn
Speaker 2yes no terry layton's got a like he basically he's got a lot of time i think i don't want to give too much away but he's found a couple at a big price i've never
Speaker 14met someone who was so strict on their rated prices yes he doesn't bet if he uh if he can't
Speaker 2get the price he wants so how boring is that um good on you mate thanks
Speaker 14are you coming to dunk out uh when is dunk out it's this week oh no i'm going to sydney for the show oh you are means zack are doing a switcheroo yeah yeah so i'll be doing that saturday morning
Speaker 2good on you mate there's benny caluzzi there we'll take a break we'll come back and we'll continue on bag of tips next join the
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Speaker 2hall welcome back to giddy up gareth hall with you 20 minutes past 10 it's great to have your company wherever you may be listening on your local sen track and rsn 927 dials if you're listening to us later on on the podcast or watching us on racing.com it is confirmed that blake shin bian baker telling us that blake shin has been booked to ride overpass in the group one at winner bottom stakes you can check out racing queensland.com.au for where queensland is racing today eagle farm on a wednesday afternoon looking at the conditions there um we're on a soft five the rails out ten and a half meters chris nelson hello to you good
Speaker 17morning to you gareth yeah the conditions are the big query because at the moment it's fine and sunny and extremely humid but we are expecting storms this afternoon and this evening and i think for the next few days so we'll see what happens but i think we'll probably get an upgrade to a good before all that happens so hopefully it all comes later in the day anyway yeah well you're after a few tips so here we go we're going with the ones we went with yesterday race one number three speedy crown now we have a favorite in this race odds on number one hit the switch and look he trialed really well at deegan recently won a trial by over 10 lengths but he's pretty short in the market here i think there's better value with number three speedy crown our last two have been good good fourth at eagle farm behind final crusade then five weeks between runs onto a heavy track up 200 meters and was good behind buddha bars the only horse that beat home last time and buddha bars are promising tight from the tony gollum stable so i think well placed here today with that run under the belt barrier number two very hard to beat speedy crown so we'll go with it to knock over the favorite that's race one number three race two i am going with the trial form here and that is with number one leaves of lorian now she's had seven starts she's placed at three of those so she's gone around in definitely stronger company she placed at group three she's run third in eagle farm saturday grade race behind And she resumes here, she bolted in a recent trial Charlotte Deegan by eight lengths. She was untouched. The time was good. She's drawn her half-decent gate here. She'll go. Well, that's the query. She should go to the front based on the trial, but her run's last prep suggests she goes back. So interested to see where she goes, but she'll be hard to beat. Race two, number one, leaves on Lorien and one other. And the best of the day, if we get to this stage, race seven, number 13, Storming Home, who was an absolute, well, you could say, arguably good thing beaten last start, fourth at Eagle Farm. She could not get clear in the straight until too late when she did. She ran on well. She should have won. Ben Thompson arrives. Good gate. I think she'll be winning. That's race seven, number 13, Storming Home, Gareth.
Speaker 2Good on you, Chris. Hopefully the rain does stay away.
Speaker 17We can only hope, Gareth, but it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 2Good on you, mate. Thanks for that. There's Chris Nelson. Launceston tonight, the man that they call Snapper from TAS Racing, Matty Reid, joins us. G'day, Matty. Morning, Gareth. Eight races. Hopefully we can find a few winners. Where do we start with your plays, mate?
Speaker 18I'll give you three. We'll start with my best. It's in the last race, eight, number seven, Little Elle. She's fine this time in. She did a bit of work early and was no match late for a pretty smart horse in Agadou. She started at the mile. She's got a good record there. Erica Bernberg on top. I think she matched to be in front of a few of her key dangers. And I think if we can shop anything in the black about Little Elle, we're doing okay. So my best race, eight, number seven.
Speaker 2Yes, race eight, number seven, Little Elle. What else have you got for us?
Speaker 18Next best race, six, number seven, Arendelle. It's one of the Barry Campbell Star Thoroughbreds Gallopers who resumes tonight. Had a couple of nice trials around some pretty handy open class horses. Good first up record. Won two of four, including one at a similar time last year. I think he's a good horse now at six years old. I think it's his prep to really stand up. And I think he can start with that tonight. So race six, number seven, Arendelle. And I'll give you a roughy in the first G race. One, number one, Alpine Alfie. He's been going around at huge odds. I thought his last run in particular was good. He was out the back from a wide gate. He went to the line without being fully tested. We get a maiden here with a fairly long tail. And he's drawn wide, but he does come in a few with the field being reduced by scratchings and the emergencies coming out. So it's the roughy race one, number one.
Speaker 2Race one, number one, Alpine Alfie. The best is race eight, number seven, Little Al. And then Arendelle, race six, number seven. We'll have something on that galloper as well. And we'll go and get them tonight, mate.
Speaker 19That's us. Thanks, Jay.
Speaker 2Thanks, Snapper. There's Matty Reid there with a look at Launceston tonight. Johnny Kelton, thanks to Racing SA at Bella Clava. He likes race six, number six, Grueling. Race five, number seven, So Polite. And Alejandra is his best value race two, number seven. So race six, number six, Grueling. Six, number six, he's best. Next best race, five, number seven. Best value race two, number seven. Rebecca Hill at Scone likes race one, number three, Tasman Deal. And race three, number one, Ocean Tsunami. So race one, number three, and race three, number three. Darren Carroll at Milton likes Taliska Skipper. Race three, number 11. And race four, number three, Oliver Smudge. So three, 11, four, three. Those are the tips there from Darren Carroll. And Harness Racing, New South Wales, the home of the Carnival of Cups. Where Australian music rules who meets quality Harness Racing action. Amanda Rando at Bathurst likes race three, number 10, Beddell's Hope. And race four, number 10, Baxter Red. So three, 10, four, 10. I'm going to take a break on the other side of it. I'm going to find you some winners at Rickerton. It's a big day there as New Zealand Cup Week continues on. And Mark Clayton will join me straight after this ad break here on Giddy Up. ♪
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Speaker 2This is Bag of Tips, all thanks to Woz Equipment Rentals, the mighty Ultima Hotel, and of course, Bet365. Wrap to Mark Clayton, thanks to New Zealand Racing. Wake up with New Zealand Racing. Kick your day off with a Kiwi bet. For free and complimentary. Confidential support. Visit gamblinghelponline.org.au. Mark Clayton, what a great time of the year it is there in the South Island. It's a pity about the weather, but the action on the track there at Addington and the trots there, yes, they were something else. And they're racing at Rickerton today as the Gallops Carnival rolls on now. Hello to you, Clayton.
Speaker 19Yeah, g'day, Gareth. Good morning to you and all your listeners there. What a week, Cup Week. Yes. If you haven't done it, put it on your bucket list. They'll be pouring you on the plane to go. I'm going to go home on the Sunday, but it's one hell of a week. And what I love about it, Gareth, both codes support each other and pretty special time. And what a day yesterday. Still brings tears to my eyes thinking about Larry and Leap of Fame, what he did. He's got that New Zealand Cup win on his resume.
Speaker 2How special. Yeah, we had Grant Dixon on today. It's his greatest ever victory, Grant pointed out. And that is saying something. He's had some career. He's won close to $7 million. And it just wouldn't have been right, I don't think, if he would have finished up. His career, Larry, without a New Zealand Cup next to his name. Now, he was pretty good last year, but he wasn't quite at his best. But then yesterday, I think we saw the best version of Leap of Fame. And he put away Swayze, which he hasn't been able to do over that staying trip sitting outside of his brother. And then he held off Marketplace. I know some said to me that, well, Marketplace gets out earlier. He might have got past Leap of Fame. I'd put my life on that, that he wouldn't have got past Leap of Fame yesterday. No horse would have beat him. He's a champion in every way. And, yeah, I think we've just got to sit back and enjoy greatness. Gus was great, but Leap of Fame, he's a special horse. And I think he is the greatest of all time, Claydo.
Speaker 19He has to be one of the greatest. Christian Cullen, he's just an absolute freak, isn't he?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. I agree with you there. I think he's a bit tougher than Christian Cullen. Maybe not as brilliant, but he's won Miracle Miles as well. Well, Leap of Fame, he's done it all. Yep. And it's just good to see us Aussies just smash you boys up in New Zealand and girls. It's just great. We're far better than you these days in the trots.
Speaker 19Wow. Eh? You can't get. That's what I'd say in Dafton. Yeah. We just go and plunder all the riches in Australia, and now it's the other way around. It's sort of. You can't get. Don't mind copping it when you've got horses like Leap of Fame. Yeah, 100%. It's pretty beautiful. And with Marketplace, like, I didn't really notice it until the replay, but he was super Marketplace, he wouldn't have got past Leap of Fame, but he's a real up-and-comer in the Marketplace. He'd do what he did late in the piece.
Speaker 2No, it's good for New Zealand harness racing anyway to have a star-like Marketplace, so look out for the next couple of seasons with him. What about today, mate? How do we make some money at Rickerton?
Speaker 19Yeah, we've got a heavy nine track at Rickerton today, and we've poached Daniel Stackhouse, and he's come over to ride Mystic Park and the feature event, the TRD Mile, and Group 3 event, and he's got to be right in it, but he's a notable. Drifter in the market, Mystic Park out in the 650. I thought the horse was probably going to improve the most as the Scunner, fourth run in this time here, and second in the Thompson Handicapper to strengthen, which is a great lead-in to this race, and Pundit's sort of starting to get on the bandwagon, and the Scunner, he's into around, just inside double figures now.
Speaker 2Okay, anything else for us?
Speaker 19There's a couple of. The maiden, the special maiden in the last, he's probably one of the better maidens going around, but I really like him. I like a horse called Night Guru. He's had three runs this time in for three seconds, and I think the value around him is pretty good as well, number six, Night Guru, and the last.
Speaker 2Beautiful. Let's hope we can make some money there, mate.
Speaker 19Yeah, we'll have to wait till late in the day, but some big fields throughout the day, and yeah, good luck. I thought race eight, there's a nice little horse just been going through the grades, Illusionist. Okay. It seems to be its forte, and it's at a silly price, but it's not a bad sort of field, but I just thought the odds around Illusionist are probably.
Speaker 2But silly. We'll get on that horse as well, and get out to Annington on Friday. You'll see Leap to Vane take on Captain's Mistress. Two of the greats. That's going to be. Getting better. Yeah, it's going to be something else there, Friday at Annington. Good on you, Claydo. Thanks, Gareth. There's Mark Clayton. That wraps up Bag of Tips on this Wednesday. We're going to take a break. On the other side of it, we're going to have a chat to Jason Adams and Georgie Ferugia for the weekly chase, but as we go to this break, we've got Wagering Wednesday. The team there at the Shepparton Harness Racing Club, Abby Sanderson and Abby Turnbull, do a wonderful job promoting the sport of harness racing, and they were from Annington yesterday. So, take it away, Abby and Abby.
Speaker 20Hey, team. Your girls are here in New Zealand on New Zealand Cup Day. Abs, it's been an amazing day, and we thought, why not bring a special edition Wager Wednesday, which is proudly sponsored by the amazing team at Willowood Farms.
Speaker 21Since it did so well last year, we thought we'd get the crew back together and come again this year, and inviting all of our participants. Thanks for joining in. Although the weather hasn't turned out, it hasn't stopped our tips from being successful, hopefully. We're here with Andrew Fitzgerald, Andrew Affart from Selling Houses. What can you tip the Wager Wednesday viewers this week?
Speaker 16Ashburton Thursday, race nine, the five, Donna's Crunch, she won super the other day, so hopefully opens a nice price. Good draw. Robbie Close is driving it, so get on.
Speaker 20Good luck. Hopefully you can go one for one. Hopefully. We're here with Benny Hope. We've managed to nab him after a busy day driving. Benny, have you got one for the Wager Wednesday viewers?
Speaker 22Eric, and I have Abby. I was lucky enough to give you guys a winner last time, so hopefully I can make it two for two. I think Queensland Spirit on Thursday, race seven, number five, she's dropping back from the Trotting Oaks, so I think she'll be a good chance on Thursday.
Speaker 20Amazing. Best of luck. Let's hope we can make it two for two.
Speaker 23We're here with Tommy C, Tom Pat, Tommy Callaghan, Queensland's greatest. Wager Wednesday, you got a winner for us this week, mate? Probably an each-way chance this week. We'll go race six, number one at Redcliffe tomorrow night. Beautiful, and for those following back at home, rocking with Attitude on Friday in the $100,000 truck on Friday, I think we'll give it a great shake. Oh, I don't know about that. Yeah, I've got to move on.
Speaker 24Cheers, Tommy. Mr Alderbaran Park himself, Duncan McPherson, any tips this week? I think Alderbaran Jasmine Kilmore this Thursday night, race five, four, six, or race six, four, five, but yeah, no, she went pretty good last start after a bit of interference early, so yeah, expect her to be storming home. I'll drop her back in and storm home up the straight, hopefully. Nice long straight at Kilmore. Beautiful, get on.
Speaker 21We're here with Mars. Mars, it's good to see the team have given you a day off to come to New Zealand for Cup Week. What have you got coming up this week?
Speaker 16Yeah, we have a chilly bit of connection in the last race in Geelong Friday night. We'll be all right.
Speaker 21Good luck. Thanks. We're joined here with New Zealand's leading driver, Blair Orange. Blair, do you have a tip for the viewers? Yep, Thursday, Ash Burden, Hayden Amanda Cullens, two-year-old filly in the two-year-old filly's race. Best of luck. After giving it a peach earlier, you got a winner for Wager Wednesday this week?
Speaker 25I actually like your right, though. Your own Friday, I know it's a bit cool to race against Gus in the free-for-all trot, but go top three anyway. Righto, get on. We're at Addington with Angus Garrard, Wager Wednesday tip. We'll go Friday in the trotting free-for-all. Got feelings, you know. Hopefully he can back up and go close.
Speaker 1Last time Angus jumped on, he went very well, so hopefully he can repeat the dose. We'll be right back.
Speaker 26We'll be right back. Set to run. Away. Speed out deep from off the chart and wrongly accused, but off the chart, led for fun. Kenya Talk now through to second. Just getting checked. Storm Hustler getting past it. Wrongly accused. Trying to push through. Jungle Johnny. Well-backed. Mapunga Award. Kenya Mayhem. Pound keeping last. Off the chart, the leader. Kenya Talk now is after it. Wrongly accused was third. Storm Hustler running on. Off the chart in front. Kenya Talk now and flying. Wrongly accused. Wrongly accused. Through the middle to win it. What a run. What a win. Wrongly accused has won the Top Gun.
Speaker 2It was a great call by Daniel Hibbert. You had to see it to believe what wrongly accused did there on Saturday night to win the Group 1 Top Gun. He was off the chart. And Darren Puglio, his owner, joins us here on Giddy Up. Darren, congratulations. Well done there. Hopefully you took some of the $5 as I say hello to you and welcome to Giddy Up.
Speaker 27Yeah, thanks very much. No, I didn't have a chance. Never punt on the weekend at all. I just let him go around and just enjoy watching him race.
Speaker 2He's a remarkable dog, really, to do what he can do when it goes his way. Like that finishing burst when he had no right to do what he did there Saturday night.
Speaker 27Yeah, no, he's a special dog. He just keeps surprising us and he's a good chaser. And, you know, when he can get it right, he gets it right. Like all dogs, I suppose. But, yeah, more importantly, he just showed how bad a judge you were.
Speaker 2Yeah, 100%, Des. Hey, I'm not quite, it's not over yet. Like, I'm a bit dirty that I missed out on you for the slot. Let's be honest. I would have loved to have had organized crime. But now I'm not on your team. Or wrongly accused, I should say then. But I think it's great for racing, Georgie. Like, to me, watching what he did there on Saturday, that's how you get people involved in the sport, especially on Racing.com. It was Chautauqua-like. In a way.
Speaker 28Yeah, look, it's the run of a superstar. And a greyhound who's won two group ones and broken a track record. Now, congratulations, Darren, on the victory. I know you weren't on track. Thanks, Georgie. I think I asked you a question over text, but I'm going to ask you again here. You've had a lot of very, very good greyhounds from this family. And we've seen other greyhounds come from this family, like Shimmer Shine, who was one of Garrett's favorite. But Without a Trace comes from this family. Hooked on Scotch comes from this family. Poke the Bear comes from this family. It has been probably the best. Damn line in the last 10 to 20 years. Is he the best of them? Or is that still early a call? I mean, Hooked on Scotch was an absolute gun. It's still early days.
Speaker 27Look, obviously, he's won two group ones and he's doing everything. Look, and he can run zone. We know, you know, 29, 40 on Round the Meadows. And when he gets it all together, he's a very, very quick animal. Is he the best? Look, it's time will tell. It's hard to say for me at this particular point because each dog in their own, right, has been a special dog and, and done remarkable things. So it's, um, yeah, he's certainly right up there. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2Yeah. And, um, he's only going to get better. I would imagine as well. Well, we'd like to think so.
Speaker 27Yeah. Look, he's, he's still got a lot to prove and, you know, he's, he's proving it against good quality dogs and that's what they've got to do in race conditions and, and he's doing that. So we can't sort of ask any more from him at this point.
Speaker 29And Darren, you've worked with some of the best trainers in Australian greyhound racing, um, just about the lot of them talk us through what sort of credit you give Justin Nolan, because me talking about this greyhound people come up to me and say, tell us more about the Nolan's where, where have they sort of come from? So they haven't had this profile of greyhound throughout their training career. We know they're just taking it step by step. Justin's feeling the heat, but the way they're handling what this bloke is doing at the moment, I think is, is pretty impressive.
Speaker 27Oh, a hundred percent. I think the, the, the good thing about him was. Yeah, you're right. He did feel the heat a bit, um, but he's taking a step back and just going, you know what, just treat him like a normal dog. Like I keep saying to him, you got him to where he is, um, doing what you do. Just keep doing that. Don't change a thing. Um, he's got there because of what you've done and the way you've managed him and just keep doing the same thing. Um, they're pretty level headed. They're, they're very, they are good trainers, obviously. Um, and they're just doing everything right with the dog and then just, I just want them to enjoy it, which they are now, which is great.
Speaker 28One thing I liked Aaron is, uh, his interview with Jason Adams after the race on Saturday, he was really raw in saying that he thought, um, wrongly accused run the week before, or at the last start of the Meadows was ordinary. A lot of trainers, you know, try to protect greyhounds and do all these sorts of things, but he was just as honest as you can be talking about other trainers, Peter Prosciutto. Obviously you've gone on a ride with him with, without a trace. And we've spoken about her. Look, she's not at her best. The one thing I'd say, and I was talking to Paulie, uh, about it yesterday on air, even though she didn't win and she's probably not at her best, she still ran 42.50. Is that enough? We see she's nominated for this week. Is that enough for you to say, you know what? The bowl trees is around the corner. Let's roll the dice. And then maybe look at her career after that.
Speaker 27Look, her run was, was very good. I thought, um, like considering what she's been doing and, you know, we've had to work through a few things. Um, Pete's been quite adamant to me that he thinks the best is still there. Um, so I've got to rely upon him and back him a hundred percent. Um, her run was a massive improvement on what it had been. And Pete spoke to me the other day and said, look, what do you think? And I said, look, if you want to have a crack at it, she's got to go around and get an extra run under her belt. Um, she's not quite fit enough. So hence the reason why he's put her in this week. And if she performs well, then she'll go into the heat to the bowl trees. And if she doesn't, well, then we'll sit down and have a talk about her future.
Speaker 29Darren, you've said you've had to work through some things with her and given she is nominated for this Friday night at Sandown, is it, is it more racing that's going to get her through this period? Is that the plan of attack?
Speaker 27I tell you what we've been battling. We've been battling with the season with her. Um, so she, she has. The short spurts of seasons where she comes on and goes off again, and she hasn't gone through a full season. She's actually just done that in the last couple of months. She was, she's gone through that season there and we're now at the tail end of it. And, um, it's hopefully out of the system and, and, and, you know, kind of let her to perform back to where she should be performing. Some people turn around and tell us that 16 weeks is the optimal number. Um, and she's at week 17. I mean, which was last week was week 17. So she did improve. It's interesting that it's happened that way. Um, but you know, we'll, we'll see how she goes this week.
Speaker 2Um, bring on the rest of the dream chasers. Um, in all seriousness, Darren, geez, I'd love to be you. Like what, what a team you have really. And you know what, what is, and I am a terrible judge. So you are right from that perspective, but if you can't beat him, you got to join him. What are you doing with off the chart? Like, Hey, um,
Speaker 29Hey, don't forget Darren's got a slot himself.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, like you can give us off the chart because you know what, you know, So if the good dog in Wrongly Accused gets into a little bit of trouble, then off the charts off and gone. See you later. Catch me if you can. And that could happen on Phoenix night.
Speaker 28We've seen it happen before. And we discussed this again, the one thing with Wrongly Accused, and it might be a worry for Darren, is that he does seem to find some sort of interference on first corners. And he did again on Top Gun night and was good enough to overcome that. I'd hate to see him get a clear run in a race. That's the thing.
Speaker 2At the end of the day, if he gets a clear run, it's all over. Like, put the binoculars down.
Speaker 28I mean, Jason was saying off air, his run home was 11.85, Darren. I mean, only Mpunga Reward got home better. And if you think he sort of had to clip off heels off the chart, he probably gets home as well as Mpunga Reward, who's known pound for pound as probably the best finisher in the country. So, no, congratulations, Darren. It's been an unbelievable ride with this greyhound. Jason and I often talk about the pride. His money is so good these days for big races that people prolong racing careers. You'd have people already knocking on your door to use this dog at stud. Is there any premature talks about that, or are we just putting that in the back burner for right now?
Speaker 27No, look, he's a race dog at the moment, George, and that's the way that we're treating him as a race dog. Unless he goes amiss anywhere or something changes, then that'll change, obviously. But at the moment, he's a race dog. I think he's got a bit more to show. And we've got a few things that we want to try and tick off the bucket list, and we're going to have a crack at him with it. So, you know, his path is up to the Phoenix, and we've discussed it up to that. And we really haven't gone beyond that at this point. Obviously, we've got to do the right thing by sports better as well, but he'll go, obviously, in the Melbourne Cup Series. I think he'll be in a shootout this week. And then we'll just give him a rest up before the Phoenix and then go again.
Speaker 2Well, I can't wait to see him in a shootout. Looking forward to the Melbourne Cup heats as well. And then I wish you the best of luck as much as I would. I don't know. I don't want to wish you too much luck in the Phoenix. Good on you, mate. And good to see him do what he did there on Saturday night. It was good for the sport, and it was good for the Dream Chasers to see your champ deliver that performance. Thanks for your time, Darren. Good on you, guys. Appreciate it. There's Darren Puglio. Yeah, it's interesting. Now, like, he'll win the shootout. What price will he be?
Speaker 28Yeah, it's funny you say that. The box draws have just been… It's been done for the Sandown meeting, Jase. So, hopefully, they'll come through in the next five or ten minutes. What's he going to start at? $1.30, Jase? $1.25?
Speaker 29Nah, $1.50, I reckon.
Speaker 28$1.50. Yeah. So, he'll be up against, we think, Sparring would be one of the Greyhounds.
Speaker 29Sparring, I think Mapunga Turbo might have been the other one. There's one more that's escaped my mind. Like a Rock? Like a Rock. So, I mean, he's against Greyhounds that will possibly lead him and run 29.10. So, how good is he to run them down? Clearly, he can do that. Yeah. But I don't think we're going to get such, such, such short odds, given those circumstances.
Speaker 2He's $7.50 for the Melbourne Cup. Is that too short?
Speaker 28No, it's probably about right.
Speaker 2Yeah. Off the chart, $10. Can you talk now, 13? Is there any value in this Melbourne Cup market?
Speaker 28Well, there probably is more than the Phoenix. I mean, I know he's got a guaranteed start. He's $4 for the Phoenix, Gareth. And the next favourite is a Greyhound who we have to say was disappointing on Saturday, and that's Jungle Johnny.
Speaker 2You've got to put a line for him
Speaker 28now in Victoria, don't you? Well, until he shows us otherwise, Gareth. He certainly hasn't shown his best form. And fair play to trainer Daniel Gadd, who said no excuses from box two. He had clear running to that first corner. He just wasn't good enough. He just has not shown his best here in Victoria. Off the charts, next favourite at 750 for the Phoenix. And then you're at to Kenya Talk now, who's a greyhound, Jase, who I think stocks has risen on him after his run when it comes to a Phoenix.
Speaker 29Yeah, he had to stand up. He was led. He couldn't have done a lot wrong. And just before we move on, Jungle Johnny, he's nominated for a Melbourne Cup probably this Friday night. So we'll get a glimpse of him.
Speaker 2All right, then. It's 50 past 10, 50 minutes past 10. We'll come back with more of the Weekly Chase next. And it's 52 minutes past 10. Jason Adams, Georgie Ferugia with me. How do you rate that performance there by wrongly accused on Saturday from an individual performance to do what he did under the circumstances?
Speaker 29Yeah, and there was good debate on Racing.com late Saturday night as well as to where that race stacks up. And. Georgie, I mean, we're going to see bigger visual wins. We're going to see faster times ran. But I think the combination of both of those two on Saturday night off the chart going 1743 to the back. And for those who don't know back split times at the Meadows, that is a length off Fernando Bale's record. Wrongly accused to check off heels, get around. I don't know that for me, that is as good as our game gets. It doesn't get any better than that. The narrative going in pressure on wrongly accused, who's beaten in an Adelaide Cup, beaten in a nothing race in the Meadows. Yeah. That is as good as our game gets, I think, on Saturday night.
Speaker 28Yeah. Yeah. It was probably a 9.7 out of 10, wasn't it? It was incredible. I'd like to see him, selfishly, I'd like to see him over 600 at some stage. And I spoke to Darren during the weekend and he said, we'd like to give him one or two. But not that we need to know he's going to run 600 meters, but he could just absolutely smash records. Like if he was in that Hume Cup race, Jase, he'd win that by four lengths, wouldn't he? Like, I mean. He just, he would have their measure. Not the Hume Cup. Sorry. The, the, yeah, the Hume Cup.
Speaker 2He would lap them in a Hume Cup, wouldn't he?
Speaker 28He'd, he'd, he'd break 34 seconds.
Speaker 2Yeah. Um, sometimes I think, why can't we have a slot race for those middle distances and staying races? Do you think that'll ever eventuate? Did they ever talk about that? Oh, it doesn't really.
Speaker 29At the end of the day, it's, it's not as sexy. I mean, you're not going to get as well known of a field over 600 as what you are 500. It'd be more for the purists. Yeah. Yeah. Rather than to, to sell the sport from the top shelf.
Speaker 2As, as great as he was there on Saturday night, he still needs a lot of luck, doesn't he? Really? And his race is wrongly accused.
Speaker 29Yeah. He needs chances. He needs chances.
Speaker 2If he gets his chance, look out. But I wouldn't want to take $2 about him.
Speaker 28Especially if he's running between 510 and 515, Garrett. And he's drawn box six in a Phoenix.
Speaker 2And what is the worst draw for him in a Melbourne Cup heat?
Speaker 28Uh, it just depends where everything else is drawn. But if there's speed drawn around him, I think he's going to be a bit of a trouble. And we've seen him have some ordinary performances from inside as well. I don't know if he's, I don't know. I don't mind him. Yeah. I don't mind him. A little bit like he's, he's relative and hooked on Scotch. Who didn't mind using a bit of the track as well.
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Speaker 2It's a busy final hour coming your way. Darren McCauley's not far away. Then we've got our futures show for the pinnacles with Terry Layton and Peter Anthonis. Can't wait for that. So yeah, looking forward to the final hour. Of course, it's great to have your company. If you're listening to us now on your local SEN turf dial right throughout WCN. You join us halfway through the weekly chases. We talk greyhound racing. We had three massive group ones at the Meadows there on Saturday night. The highlight of the night there, of course, was the performance of Ronley Hughes, who was devastating to take out the Top Gun sprinting final there. We had Darren Pulley on the show and he can't wait now for the Top Gun. I should say the shootout this week at Sandown. And then of course, um, at the Melbourne Cup heats on Saturday week. And then hopefully you can get into the Melbourne Cup. Jason Ames, Georgie Ferugia with myself, Gareth Hall. Hey, what did you make of the Top Gun for the stays? Um, Aidan's worry was far too strong. There was a few disappointments behind him, however, Georgie.
Speaker 28Yeah, just, uh, incredible. The fact that he won a Sandown Cup over the four years of age, Jason, he's continued his unbelievable form. Uh, we spoke about it off air. I thought he was silly odds because he mapped perfectly in the race, the red, beautiful chocolate. I thought it was always going to lead the race and he sits close enough in his races to be, to be hard to hold out. Were you surprised at the time at all? 42, 25. They don't go much quicker than that at the Meadows.
Speaker 29No, they don't. And it was a pretty cold night there on, on Saturday, but through the guts of the meeting, it sort of, it just sort of tampered itself a little bit. So it's not surprising to see him run quick time. And he, he, he would have done what I don't think ever would have been done before to win two group ones North of four years of age, which for anyone out there, not familiar with. Greyhound ages, as soon as you turn four years of age, you're considered a veteran. So he's won two years after that line in the sand. So yeah, he. He's not one that's going to put bums on seats, Georgie, and then sell tickets and break track records, but he is the most reliable fullback you've ever come across. He just turns up every week. He performs. He is such a gun.
Speaker 28Incredibly now he's won $60,000 more in prize money than Magpie Hector, which a lot of people probably. He was disappointing, Magpie Hector. Yeah, I thought he lobbed into a nice enough position to at least run second, Gareth. And there was a couple of runs that were just blah. Miss Envy? Miss Envy sort of missed the kick, was never in contention. Neither was Electrify. We've spoken about Without a Trace, who's drawn box five at Sandown on Saturday night there. Friday night. Friday night, sorry. So, yeah, look, he'll be fine, Magpie Hector. He'll get back into it. And he still ran 42-48. I'd like a disappointment with that, but yeah.
Speaker 2Does Miss Envy stay around for the bold trees?
Speaker 28Well, if she pulls up, okay, hopefully. Yeah. But I didn't like her prep going in, Gareth. And there was no, it's not always because wrongly accused drifted from $3 to $5. So the market's not always an indication, but there was never any money for her during the week.
Speaker 2And that's not a good sign for her, I don't think. What'd you make of the Hume Cup, Jase?
Speaker 29Mr. Weird. I mean, he's in a similar bracket to Aidan's warrior. I mean, he's not one we're going to be speaking about week after week as headline acts in the sport, but continues to turn up week after week. His versatility, 500, 600 metres. He's in a prelude of the Melbourne Cup this Friday night over the 500 metres. Yeah. Yeah. And George, it was a top performance as well. I mean, it wasn't just a fast time. It wasn't just Vista Weird winning a group one. The way he did it was magical as well.
Speaker 28Yeah. He's done that a lot of times in his career. He's had to do it tough and he's come from off the speed and it was a terrific victory. He too has won over $300,000 in prize money and takes on Gemma Keeping again. They're drawn next to each other, boxers one and two for that prelude. I tell you what, there's some really good preludes here. There's nine preludes on the card at Sandown Park. We've obviously got the Laurels too, Gareth, but the box draw. The box draw is what everyone wants to know and that's for the shootout. And Wrongly Accused has come up with box one, Like A Rock in box three, who's run low 29 seconds at Sandown Park. Jase, as you know, sparring in box five, who you'd safely bet that would lead this race.
Speaker 29He's redlining as well, sparring.
Speaker 28Yeah. And Mapunga Turbo's drawn box seven. Probably going to find it tough for him out there, you'd suggest. Where does he get to, Wrongly Accused? The key for him is if he can ping out and hold out Like A Rock. I think then he just wins. I think then it turns in from $1.50 pop, as you're talking about, to probably $1.05.
Speaker 29He probably gets a cruisy run, settles behind sparring and beats him three lengths. Yeah. That's the way I read it.
Speaker 2Jase, surely you can't get into trouble in a four-dog field, but sometimes you can. You can. Sometimes you can, especially if I jump on at $1.50. What else are you looking forward to on Friday night with the Preludes?
Speaker 29Well, they're all strong fields. They're just hot off the press. So make sure you go check those out. I'm sure markets will be open. We've also got the final, the Laurels, George, which is one of the more famous and illustrious races restricted to female greyhounds. So we saw ripping heats last Thursday night and sets up a really good final as well.
Speaker 28Yeah, and the speed drawn in three, four, and five with Compton Rock, Surge, and Little Monkey, I think is going to be the telltale of the race. If we're looking at an early tip, I'm not sure what price we're going to get, but race one, number one, Indy Melman, coming back to form 29.75 at the Meadows last start. He's been out of just patchy form a little bit. He's run 29.20 there. Off box one, you'd think he'd be very hot.
Speaker 29Yeah, and this is a great night, this Friday night. It's one of my favourites. And it wouldn't be for many people because I think when we get to Melbourne Cup heats night, we know that as the best quality night of racing that there is. But there's a lot of races you look at and go, this is too hard. I don't know what's going to happen. But this Friday night, it's just that shade down, isn't it, Georgie? We've just got all the free-for-all types in one place, not the group one types, all the free-for-all types. And I think it's a lot easier to separate them. So I'm really keen for this Friday night. We'll catch up with you on Friday.
Speaker 2If it's that easy, we've got at least three specials from you, Jason Adams, on Friday ahead of Sandown on Friday night. Anything else, boys? I think we've covered off on most of the big issues.
Speaker 28Just that Jungle Johnny's drawn well again in box two. So again, we talk about getting back on D-Day. Absolutely, D-Day from the draw.
Speaker 29And I think it's probably on him and without a trace, there's more pressure on him this week than what there was last week.
Speaker 2I can't believe you sort of. Did Darren Puglio, he got stuck into me about wrongly accusing, he gets stuck into you about without a trace. I'll get you. He's not right, really.
Speaker 28He did speak to me off-air about my thoughts, but I think he agreed that she's probably near the end. Just quickly in that race, Jungle Johnny, he's got Dashing Slay in the race, a power fan in the New Zealand Greyhound who can show a lot of speed, Paul Winder in seven, who's just an unbelievable talent when he gets to the line hard, and Flying Ducati in the eight. I mean, that's probably a Melbourne Cup heat, really. I mean, that's a cracker.
Speaker 29It's going to be good. And if anyone wants to tell Gareth who SEN should be siding with in the Phoenix. Let us know. Don't hesitate. Gareth.
Speaker 2We're going to announce it probably in the next couple of weeks, I would imagine. Celtics or 76ers today, mate? You know what? I hope the Celtics win. Good boy. Yeah, I hope the Celtics win. But, Wemby, did you watch him? He scored 40 points in 24 minutes.
Speaker 28I've just seen a sign up there that said it hadn't been done since 1952.
Speaker 2It's like he plays in a different type of game. He's like an 18-year-old playing under 12. Didn't he have 56 points, 28 rebounds in a game last week? Yeah, something ridiculous. Hey, boys, go and get him on Friday. And lovingthecoverageracing.com. Not this week, but Saturday week.
Speaker 29Saturday week, we're back on, yeah, after what was a really enjoyable night. Saturday is gone.
Speaker 2Go and get him, boys. Thanks for that, Jase. Jason Adams and Georgie Ferugia. It's a big final part of Giddy Up. We'll concentrate on WA Racing with our future show not far away with Terry Layton and Pete Anthonis. But before all of that, it's the best from the West with Darren McCoy. All right. This is the best from the West. All thanks to, of course, Racing WA TV on 7 Plus. Racing.com, your ultimate destination for everything racing in the West. Darren McCoy, Georgia's. G'day, Darren. You're a great man.
Speaker 30Good morning to you, Gareth. Lovely to join you, too. It's an exciting next few days building up towards the weekend with so many group races. We've got, what, three group, three races and two listed events on the program. And this shapes the next couple of weeks when we go off to the railway stakes, the winter bottom to a lesser degree, and then, of course, to the northerly. We can't wait to see what's going to be unpacked on the weekend, that's for sure. And it's going to be do or die for a few horses to make the cut in some of those big races.
Speaker 2Yeah, 100%. I'm just getting some information through. So here are, Cobb, the horses that are booked on the flight for the Pinnacles. Cosmic Crusader, Buckaroo, Harry's Yacht, Plymouth, Stapardi, Overpass, Ray McNeerow and Surf and Bird. No jigsaw, which is disappointing. No. What do you make of that?
Speaker 30Well, I had expectations that that would probably be about the number G that would make the trip across. I'm not, you know, sort of shocked one way or the other, quite frankly. I think that was the sort of the names there. Jigsaw would have been a real draw card, given the impact that he had on his maiden journey across here. So, yeah, we'll just have to sort of see how it all goes, you know. They've got to arrive in one piece and then we'll, you know, have a look at them in action. So, yeah, they've got some good competition. I know that, you know, Cosmic Crusader coming back, looking to retain his northerly title will be important.
Speaker 2He'll go the railway too, Cobb. He's going to go the railway, 61.
Speaker 30Well, is he confirmed to run in the railway with 61 kilos?
Speaker 2He's not confirmed, but I reckon he's more likely than unlikely.
Speaker 30Yeah, it's a superstar's weight to carry. Horses invariably don't win with much more than 58 and haven't done, I mean, historically, the railway has been won by horses down at the lower end of the weight scale or in that 55 range, by and large. When was the last time a horse carried 61 kilos and won a railway? Maybe northerly, was it? Off the top.
Speaker 2Was it northerly, 61 kilos?
Speaker 30No, no. No, northerly had no weight when he won the railway.
Speaker 2He was only a freshman. Didn't he go back again, northerly?
Speaker 30Yeah, he didn't win another one, though.
Speaker 2Oh, no. I thought last time. The horse competed with it.
Speaker 30Sorry, sorry. Or won with that kind of a weight. I don't know. That's a big ask. I think, you know, you get back to 59 in the northerly and, you know, he showed just how good he was when he beat up on, what was it, Western Empire and Watchby Rock 12 months ago. And that was after missing a railway, Cosmic Crusader. He ran third in a, a luckless third in a Peter's Stakes, which would have been the golden ticket, going into the railway. He didn't get there. He ran in. He was in the Carbine Club the same day at 1400 and smashed the clock, won 22 and change, I think, from memory. So he was unlucky not to have got there last year in the railway stakes. So maybe it's not his race.
Speaker 2Maybe. Would you go? Would you go to a railway? Because I think that Bob has said this on Giddy Up before, that he just loves racing. He does better when he's racing. He's easier to prepare when he's racing more. - And he might need, Like that gap between Champion Stakes Day to the northerly might be too much for him. Maybe he needs to run the railway.
Speaker 30Well, if he does, that's okay. But I don't know if he can win with 61 kilos. There's some serious talent going around right here at the very moment. We know who they are. Come on, Cobb. Who's going to beat him? Well, you know, you've got – and, again, it depends on barrier, draw, et cetera, et cetera. But, you know, weight stops trains. It does. And when you've got emerging horses on the up, you've got a horse coming off the back end of a great spring campaign. I mean, it was incredible, the job that Andrea Leak and Willie did with Bob, with Cosmic Crusader. But it's a big, big task to win with 61. If he goes around, that's fine. Tick him over. Let him run a great race. I don't know if he can win, you know, giving a horse certainly at the moment like a King of Light weight. He's on the up. There's a couple of four-year-olds here, and I hope one who goes around on Saturday in the Peter's Stakes wins the Peter's Stakes and books himself a spot. I don't think we've seen anywhere near the best of Rockfest. He's won a couple of 66-pluses so far. But he was not far behind King of Light as a three-year-old. And I think he's a better horse now. And what we've seen in two runs, it would be, I reckon, tragic if he doesn't get a start, if he doesn't win the Peter's Stakes. He's drawn beautifully. I think he'll personally win on the weekend. I think that he'll get to the railway for the Pierce brothers. And I think, like King of Light, he'll have a real impact. You've got Hot and High, the mare. She'll have no weight going into the race. You know, these horses are on the up, and these are what they've been targeted for. And as great a horse as Cosmic Crusader has turned out to be over in Melbourne through this spring, there's some serious talent, some of the best four-year-old talent I've seen here for some time.
Speaker 2What did you make of King of Light? I watched that replay a few times. I thought he was on – he wasn't like, I want to be on him next time for a railway type of performance there on Saturday. Not screwed down, Gareth.
Speaker 30Not screwed down. All right, then. I'll take your word on that. He's building and building. He's on the up. Dan Morton, you know, he's an outstanding trader. Times his preparation of his horses to the minute. King of Light will be fine there, Railway Stakes Day. So, looking forward to that. Just out of the Morton stable, too, of course, we were so disappointed when Roger got away from Chris Parnham, dumped him onto the track, going out there for the Faritha on the weekend, and they were so lucky that he didn't injure himself. He galloped off, and it was a bit of a mess, really, how things unfolded. But despite the frustration on the day of Dan Morton, the horse was unscathed, from what I gather. He worked the house down, and we'll go straight now. And then have a crack, all things being equal, at the Northerly. But whilst they took a while to catch him, he was Roger the Dodger, literally, there on the weekend. They just couldn't catch him. No. And I don't think if he ran, Beatty would have caught him either.
Speaker 2Yeah. Well, you love Roger, don't you? He's your… And here comes Roger.
Speaker 30And is going to give them a good rogering first up.
Speaker 2He's McCauley's horse. I'm just having a look at the Guineas market.
Speaker 30He's the people's horse, Gareth. He is the people's horse.
Speaker 2Like, Beatty's short at $2. Profit motive's not going to the Guineas. Roger's at $6. I reckon you can forgive Godspeed. He just got too wound up with Roger dumping Chris Parnham, which set him alight, and then he got too keen out in front. If they can ride him with some cover, I feel as though I wouldn't give up on him just yet. He's at $15. But I couldn't take $2 about Beatty, could you, in these future markets? No, not at the moment.
Speaker 30No, absolutely. I think there's… There's little between, on what I've seen, Roger and Beatty. Sounds like a movie star we're talking about. But, yeah, I think at the moment, Roger might just have his head in front, as good as Beatty has been. And, you know, I love what Beatty has done right from the get-go. He was the star two-year-old. There's no doubt about that. Speaking of great two-year-olds last year, the horse that beat him home in the Caracatta, a fire of Guineas, and Coles runs in the Placid Arc, that's the half-a-million-dollar listed race on the weekend. Yeah. So it'll be looking to atone after what was a really messily run prelude to the Placid Arc. So Lucy got caught there in a bit of no-man's land and went around a very short-priced favourite. But I'm looking forward to seeing him probably atone in the Placid Arc. So Levati Di Mezzo, the horse that powered home past him going around there, but… Drawn a shocker. Aiky Brakey, the filly, drawn a shocker. So the barrier draw has been pretty kind to a fire of Guineas, Coles in that particular race. Overall, looking through the program, you've touched upon profit motive as well, going to the champion fillies. She could be a star in the making. The barrier draw probably assisting her prospects. Treasured Legacy, who was conquered by a last start. We'll have to do it tough. And so will the very progressive Aaron Mitchell-trained filly, Miss Billy Jean, who I think has the makings of a horse who will develop into a real Oaks-class horse. I think she's got something about her.
Speaker 2This is moving day in a way as well. I know Turnbull Stakes in Victoria is moving day ahead of the Carnival in Melbourne. I reckon this is moving day in a way. You've got the Colonel Reeves, the champion fillies. The R.J. Peters, Cosmic Crusader, was… He was beaten in this race last year. He needed to win to get into the railway, and he didn't have much luck. Yeah. So Western Miss, Pike, he rides Western Miss over like clockwork. And I don't think Bob's got anything in the railway apart from Cosmic Crusader. Now, I stand to be corrected there, but I wonder if he changes his mind if Western Miss wins and then Pike just rides her in the railway and he doesn't go to the railway with Cosmic Crusader. I don't know.
Speaker 30Well, we'll just let the cards fall as they need to, and they'll have a look at that through the course of the week. I'm just scanning through the full list of the railway stakes, weights, and outside of Cosmic Crusader, I can't find another that Bob's got in there.
Speaker 2I think it's important for the race that… I know that… I think it's a better race this time around than last year, the railway, but it is fighting. It's fighting for its Group 1 status, the railway stakes. Cosmic Crusader's influence on that race would help that cause big time, Darren.
Speaker 30Will Buckaroo run in it?
Speaker 2I just texted Ozzy Kerr there. He might. Why not? If he's only got 58 and a half on his back, I reckon he's a chance. Ozzy's probably in a meeting, but I reckon there is…
Speaker 30Suggestions that he might just be here for the northerly, I'm not quite sure. But anyway, we'll dig a little bit deeper there with Ozzy and find out… I think whichever way you go on the weekend, you're going to be delighted with the program that comes out. Chinquay Stella from Young Steel Casey's Yard going around in the list of Jungle Mist with the returning ladies pro and Divine Belief is racing fantastic, but just can't win one. I think her last win was part of the D. Oliver Triumvirate on his last day of riding. But she's a terrific, terrific mare and flying. So that's a pretty good edition of the Jungle Mist. When you look at playing at sweep, cessation going there. The returning ladies pro, Dracaina, of course, she's a stakes winner last year. It's a quality lineup, but Chinquay Stella is flying for Bob Peters and young trader Steel Casey. So that would be a very important win in Steel Casey's career.
Speaker 2Would you give up on Western Empire and Watch Me Rock?
Speaker 30Certainly not. Certainly not. I think probably Western Empire on the weekend. Had he had stayed on that inside lane there, that pad going through, he would have fished much closer. He came off for a couple of strides, probably made it a little bit more awkward than it needed to be. But no, I think that once Team Williams have been able to work through him with another week up their sleeve, he'll be there ready for the grand final as well, Western Empire. So, yeah, it's going to really make it very interesting, I think. This is, I think, low. The best crop of older horses, four-year-olds in particular, and the three-year-olds stepping up as a collective that we've had for a number of years.
Speaker 2Yeah, I agree with you. That's exciting. And then you've got Overpass and Ray McNeero that will lead the winter bottom market. But Basset Hound and those type of horses, there's plenty of X Factor around. We'll see how good they are come winter bottom day. What about from a punting perspective at Belmont today there, Darren? Can you help us out? Before I go to that.
Speaker 30Yeah. I can give you a little bit of news. Freddie Kersley is coming back home. Yes, permanently. Ride. Yes. It looks as though he'll be coming back permanently. So, struggling for opportunities in Victoria. In his last four winning rides, I think, have all been on the Provincials. Had that great connection with Tuvalu for Lindsay Smith. We know that he's a very talented rider. I think there's a spot for him in WA. He's a terrific young man, Fred. And, uh, I'm sure that, uh, he'll, he'll work his way back into it and and become aligned to a couple of nice stables there got a bit of class about him um and i think if willie continues to ride at the major carnivals you know going away for extended periods as we've seen it opens up opportunity you know chris parham brad parham uh clint johnston porter they step up they go to another level and i think that you know young fred is certainly in the driver's seat there the right time right age right experience and i think that you know coming back to wa isn't the worst thing that he'll ever do to his he's made some great connections and as i say uh your quality and your class will carry you for a very very long way and he certainly has plenty of that
Speaker 2all right then mate a tip on a wednesday
Speaker 30tip on a wednesday for you my friend uh we're going for don't declare which was stiff last start race three uh number one i think it was 270 when i looked overnight i haven't checked in lately on the market uh race four number four uh nev parham's going to back up vinnie nay at two dollars sixty and i thought if you played maybe in the last event tricky little race thought that maybe at thirteen dollars fearless talk might give you a run for your money there not the worst going around in the last leg of the quaddi so race three number one race four number four race seven number five fearless talk is how i see them at belmont park today and don't forget 2g the famous rockingham races are on this coming sunday down there on the beautiful rocky ham foreshore i'll be down there there'll be about 20 000 others with us it's a lot of fun and uh the races are in gerald on the weekend but uh the lure of rockingham beach has got me again what do you
Speaker 2mean you're obviously there's more cash on offer rocky than there is a gerald let's be honest
Speaker 30that's very harsh very very harsh i was speaking to rafa nadal the other day about the cash and he he's all for it
Speaker 2oh yes yes yes good on you com thanks for that mate see you man there's darren mccauley 27 minutes past 11. our future show coming up next with terry layton and peter anthony is the head of the pinnacles join the conversation text
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Speaker 2with you right on 11 30. um it's time now for our future show thanks to racing wa tv on seven plus and racing.com it's the ultimate destination for everything racing in the west let's catch up with peter anthonis and terry layton g'day boys hello to you peter first of all
Speaker 25morning to you g hall
Speaker 2morning to terry terry layton hello to you good morning team how we doing i'm excited i i love doing these future shows let's see if we can find something i sort of really haven't recovered since we found zaki at 15 to 1 and got beat by dom to shoot in an orderly but anyway um we'll try and go again and see if we can find something terry
Speaker 31i best bet just saluted actually gareth are you mentioning zaki in the first 45 seconds of the show so i'm already i'm already in front for the day all
Speaker 2right let's start off with um do you want to have a look at the placid arc market i know that the fields are out we've got the barry draws and the rest of the fields will be coming out shortly for this important meeting on saturday which includes of course the rj peters which gives a few of these gallopers in the rj peters their final chance to sneak in to the famous railway stakes a five giddy coals 275 our horse that we were tipping at 11 last week one last resort now 4.50 terry layton yeah well this
Speaker 31was the market to play it's obviously hard to tell people that now but we did we did mention that last week and i put something on twitter as well that uh this was the basically the the idea of playing this market was beady profit motive um godspeed all the horses that were going to the guineas were still in it taking up big chunks so that that was where your edge was in this market but look to be honest with you after this barrier draw with the easterly forecast on saturday the money will just keep on coming for a fire at yiji coals and one last resort i reckon that the current prices might still be the best prices available i cannot see how anything else here um firms in the market with the expected conditions of the day and just how well those two horses are going so i still think as boring as it is there might be a little two horse play at the at the 275 and 450 make one a result and save the
Speaker 25other pete yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know what you're talking about i don't know i don't yeah i don't really have anything there that's sad to be honest i think if you've got one maybe at silly odds that might be able to play so you're looking at an anaconda jones or something like that but yeah i i don't really have a great deal of interest geo until i've done the barrier drawer and all that sort of stuff done my speed map blah blah blah i'll speak to you on friday all right
Speaker 2then i'll look forward to that the wa guinea speedy's at two dollars now this is on the 21st of november so this is on railway stakes day profit mode is not going to the guineas and she is the second favorite with bet three six five darren mccoy reporting that roger's come through that hiccup there on saturday with flying colors he worked brilliantly this morning um he's at six dollars treasured legacy at 11 flying in the win at 15. i had a chat to michael genjemi about godspeed he said he pulled up with um heat stress there after his run on saturday but he he did he did get too keen in the run and beady taking off didn't help me i should say roger taking off didn't help his cause as well so i'll give you one more chance god 15 big red zoom at 17 rule of reflection at 17. terry i'll go to you here first is there any value in this market for the wa guineas
Speaker 31look if you could bet place only there probably would be um i do think godspeed's probably been spat out a little bit but the market probably does that on the day you need to remember beat he's probably going to jump a dollar eighty with the question marks on roger um treasured legacy might not back up after a champion phillies but i can't see what pike's riding which is probably the question you need to ask with every futures race because that horse is naturally uh going to be extremely well supported um but look the two for me if you can bet place heavy would be consignment who ran second in the major lead-up um and texan sea who i don't even know if they're going there but i presume they'll have to go there with how well it's going at the moment midweek um i look i think they're about eight nine dollars and 13 a place something like that there too that i suspect will jump half that place price in the final field i don't know if they're going there but they're going to have to go there i don't know i don't think they can beat beaty um but that's where the value probably lies at the moment okay p
Speaker 25yeah i've just maintained what i've been saying the last couple of weeks g that baby's like obviously the the right favorite but just too short and i really don't think there's that much separating a few of these there's a lot of unexposed three-year-olds this year that we haven't seen the best of and really it could come down to just barrier draws and and how the days i'm unfolding so i don't think baby should be two dollars but i understand why is the favorite but um there really shouldn't be that much difference between him and roger i'll put it that
Speaker 2way yeah roger so could you take the six dollars roger then pete if you heard what darren pointed out what he heard from the camp that he's come through that hiccup there from saturday when he dumped chris parham um in good fashion um could you take that pun on him at the six dollars i wouldn't
Speaker 25be taking it this far out or you know there's only a week and a bit to go but um look the thing that still concerns me about some of these races and it's going to be a pretty common theme that i'm going to keep repeating um there's not a lot of speed on paper in some of these races and i think some of the better chances say like a roger his best figures are clearly when there's been tempo on the race the other thing that just concerns me with both roger and badia they've both basically had perfect runs every start this break so we're really not getting that much more extrapolation in terms of what we've seen um but for a few others there's obviously plenty of excuses around them so yeah i think the market's probably a little bit cheeky at this point i would be diving into either to be honest
Speaker 2yeah so yeah we'll just have to wait and see what happens there's a little bit of water to go under the bridge um william pike i reckon he is riding um treasured legacy in the guineas there you go that's that's his ride just talking as they
Speaker 31confirm they're they confirm they're backing up because it's obviously going around in the champion phillies on saturday from an awkward alley yes they haven't it's uh then they're going to back up that's
Speaker 2what i'm hearing that's what i'm hearing that's the information that i'm
Speaker 31gathering oh there you go so yeah i'm actually surprised a few from the champion phillies are having gone straight to a guineas because i can almost see this being a 10 horse field um and you've got 16 going around in the champion philly so some of these horses that are going to go around 50 100 to one behind profit motive from awkward alleys um like miss billy jean who's drawn wide i'd just race for double the money the next week when you're probably racing for fifth or sixth anyway and you're getting more prize money and you're probably going to get a better run so i i think it would make sense for a few of these champion philly sources to pivot to the guineas
Speaker 2yeah and just on that at the moment it looks like it could be pike's ride you're probably going to treasured legacy but he hasn't been locked in with that ride just yet but if you're a betting man she would be favorite to be his ride for the guineas 37 minutes past 11 we'll take a break and we'll have a look at the railway stakes wa's most famous race next year on our futures wa show here on giddy up here with gareth hall terry layton and peter anthonis
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Speaker 2welcome back to giddy up it's 39 minutes past 11 let's have a look at the railway stake this is our wa pinnacles future show peter anthonis and terry layton with me um the railway Stakes. The market has King of Light, the favorite, at $3.25. Surf and Bird now second favorite at $5.50. Hot and High is $6.00. Rockfest at $6.00. Cosmic Crusade is $6.50. Buckaroo at $8.00. Chris Waller hasn't scratched Buckaroo from the railway. I wouldn't rule him out competing in the railway stakes. Western Empire, $8.00. Pericles, $11.00. Western Mist at $12.00. God's Window won't be coming. Declacy Boulevard won't be coming. Stapati is at $15.00. Harry's Jot, you got $51.00 this morning, now into $17.00. Welcome to the show won't be coming. Either will Warnie or another will. So there you go. Well, that's the information I've got. Now, I think today is the day where they have to tell if they're, well, if they've been booked to go on that flight and confirm that booking. So that's a look at the market for the railway stakes. Terry Layton, what are you doing from a punning perspective? Is there any value there?
Speaker 31Oh, to be honest, no, not really. I mean, everything at the peak of the market is running. The market's had a long time to sort of adjust and get itself into the right position. As Pete mentioned before, with some of these races, there's been no speed in the lead up. So it's been wild, the major lead ups to the railway, how little speed we've had in it. So Surf and Bird coming, I believe, races forward. That's going to obviously be a positive for that horse and for the race as well. But for those that are looking at a horse, say you're looking at a Rockfest or a Westernist who need to go to the Peters, you're better off all upping your bet. Because if you take, say Rockfest is $3 in the Peters and it has to win that to go the railway, it's $6 here all in, it's going to be longer than $2 for a railway stake. So you just have your bet in the Peters and then all up it in the railway if you so desire and you're going to get a far bigger price. So no, struggling to see it. I think Western Empire is the horse incredibly well in at the weights. Since last year, where it's got the exact same rating, it's run third in a group one, second in a group two, won three group three weight for age races, carries the exact same weight and King of Light gets penalized heavily for doing pretty similar stuff in that time. So Western Empire is almost the weighted horse, I would just about say.
Speaker 2Pete, surely if Buckaroo goes there or even Cosmic Crusader, I know they've got to carry weight and history tells you that you can't do it. But this is circumstances that we really haven't seen before a railway when you've got the Cox Plate champ and the horse that finished second in the Cox Plate the year before by nose, the V-Sistina.
Speaker 25Is it some concern that Buckaroo hasn't run past a horse in some time? And just judging off a race without that much speed, I think that's the real weakness for Cosmic Crusader here. Like I keep saying, he just plugs along. He runs the last 600 the same every time, but he needs everyone else to be going really fast. So he's the last horse standing. So I'm not a big weights person necessarily, but if he's got top weight, they're going to ride him conservatively, you'd think. And that's not going to be to his benefit in this sort of race. So I'm looking at the field. Surf and Bird, I'm a bit iffy on after last time out. I think she was pretty plain there at Flemington, to be honest. But her previous win over some of these horses, I think Buckaroo was in that field. And that would pretty much go close here if she's able to dictate. Do we have a jockey for Surf and Bird by any chance?
Speaker 2Peter Lawrence: And Geordie I would imagine would be favourite to ride her.
Speaker 25Peter Lawrence: Yeah. Which makes sense. Look, if Geordie basically just takes a bull by the horns, she's obviously going to be right up in this race to her eyeballs if she's travelled across well. I keep going back to, and she's not necessarily been one of my horses, but Hot and High, I don't think there's that much between Hot and High and King of Light in terms of what we've seen to date, both respective stages of their careers. And I think Hot and High has a bit more versatility to her. So if she draws well, then that's probably a horse that I'll be trying to form my book around. And then also whoever wins, the RJ Peters, I'm just going to default. I don't care who it is, if it's Rockfest or Western Miss, they're automatically going to be a bet for me.
Speaker 2Peter Lawrence: I tell you what, I'd be backing Western Empire now. I've just been told that D. Lane, Damien Lane has been booked to ride Western Empire. Now that is some booking, Terry.
Speaker 31Peter Lawrence: See, that's why we listen to this show, Gareth. That's the good mail. That's why we need it. So that's a cracker. D. Lane, he's been booked. Peter Lawrence: Well, yeah. Wait a sec, we've got to get on. Peter Lawrence: We'll go to a break. Peter Lawrence: Yeah, I was going to say, I'll speak to you in a moment. Peter Lawrence: I'll speak to you in a minute. Peter Lawrence: I'll speak to you guys later. Yeah, what we've seen in the past year, it's pretty wild that Western Empire has waited as well as it is, to be honest with you. So you should have beaten King of Light in the weekend, is my opinion. I thought Lucy gave King of Light a 10 and Western Empire found some traffic at the wrong time. So no, I love that. I reckon the old boy could win again. Bon Joy, I reckon it's going real good if you look at one at a price, but you don't need to take $26 now because you're going to get $26 on the day anyway. It's going to be a good, deep maiden, good, deep maiden, good, deep railway. But Cosmic Crusader, coming back across the country with weight back to a mile, it can't win.
Speaker 2Peter Lawrence: That's a bit harsh. I don't think it can't win. Peter Lawrence: It can't win.
Speaker 31Actually, you know what? I hope I'm wrong. People say that and they don't actually mean it. I would love to be on course, as long as I haven't done my ass on something else. I would love to be on course to see that occur because it would be absolutely tremendous. But that's just. I'm old school. I'm back in trip weight, traveling across the country, new environment, going from Lake Dirk to Grantham. It's hard on a horse. The northerly, if you sell it in well, that's great. That's wonderful. Peter Lawrence: People have been saying that about Cosmic
Speaker 2Crusader or prep, haven't they, Pete? Oh, he can't do this. He can't do that. Sure. They galloped him on the Tuesday after the Caulfield Cup and then he blew them away in the Cox Plate. He's got everyone shaking their head in disbelief, this mighty galloper. So who knows what he will do there. Do you know what? I'd love for him to run a big race in all three of them and then just rock up there to the gold. I'd love to see that gold rush back to 1,400 meters. How fun would that be to watch? Now, I'm going to take a break. We're going to talk about the winner bottom next, but just repeating, from the Grasshopper to the Lane Train, Western Empire to be ridden by Damien Lane in the Railway Stakes. The Hall of Famer takes the ride on Western Empire, who will be trying to win his second Railway Stakes there on the 21st of November. We'll take a break. We'll come back and we'll talk about the winner bottom next. Peter Lawrence: Welcome back to
Speaker 1Giddy Up, 48 minutes past 11. Let's have a chat
Speaker 2about the winner bottom. This is a race that's been dominated by horses in the Eastern States. No jigsaw. I don't think he's heading to WA. He's not booked on that flight anyway. Peter Lawrence: We've got Overpass, $5. Ray McNeero, $5. Basset Hound at $8. King of Light, $8. Blake Shin's been booked to ride Overpass, and Pikey will be on Ray McNeero. Pete, tell me why Overpass is still $5 with the information I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 25Peter Lawrence: You're saying he should be far shorter in the market, G?
Speaker 2Correct. 100%. I love the Basset Hound, but he's not getting close to Overpass, is he? Surely. Peter Lawrence:
Speaker 25I guess the thing with Basset Hound is we're still trying to factor in a bit of potential there, aren't we? Overpass has been there, done that against Group One horses. Look, he's taken the same preparation that we've seen previously. His last run, or he's only had the one run on the 17th of October, and he's had that little freshen up, and he clearly goes better fresh into this Perth trip. Blake Shin's a great booking for the horse. He'll be there on pace. He deserves to be favorite. Peter Lawrence: In terms of the other horses, I really loved the run of Talk & Co first up. I know she was just seemingly holding those horses on the line, but it was just a big fat tempo and a huge number for her. Everything about that horse says that she'll be able to cope with whatever they throw at her, and if she draws well, even better. I think Talk & Co is clearly the best value in the field. Look, if I love Talk & Co, I probably have to like Immortal Bliss. I think that race, really high tempo, that's going to be your form race leading up to it, unless we get something in the Colonel Reeves this weekend with similar tempo. I think that's really the race I'm looking at, because that's just such a good conditioning race for a lot of these horses. I think Overpass deserves to be favorite. He started shorter than Ray Magnerio in the last time they met here in WA. I'm expecting that Talk & Co and Immortal Bliss are the two best of the local chances at odds. I'm not discounting Bassett Hound, but I just think he's short enough, given the market. I think we'll probably get that price in the day, to be fair.
Speaker 2Tom Bilyeu: The Pearce brothers, Terry, they're on fire. This could be a big pinnacle for Dan and Ben Pearce. Tom Bilyeu: Absolutely.
Speaker 31Rockfest is definitely their lamp lighter, but I think Rockfest will probably win the railway if he qualifies as well. I think it's right time, right place for him at the moment, but in here, the Winterbottom Stakes is traditionally dominated by those that come across. It's a wait for age race, not a handicap. Straight away, it's the proven brigade that dominates. As you know, I'm not a huge Eastern States form man, but presuming cessation goes to the Joey, who's quite a big speed influence. Overpass probably leads the Winterbottom. Obviously, doing a speed map this far out is fraught with danger, but from there, Gareth, as you know, over the 1200 at Ascot, that could be lights out. I wouldn't be afraid right now to have a back and save Overpass and Ray Magnurio, considering we think they're the only two coming from the East. Traditionally, it's an Eastern States race. It wouldn't surprise me on the day if they're $2.80 and $3.70, or something like that. Tom Bilyeu: I mean, if Ascot comes out on Saturday and from barrier one, it does something really special. um and sort of establishes himself as our number one because don't forget rope them in still our wait for age best sprinter he has been luckless in quokkas luckless in winter bottoms please um he deserves to be the head of the market he's had
Speaker 2a heap of chances right yeah
Speaker 31but yeah he hasn't really hasn't really had a proper chance so has he because he keeps going
Speaker 2impossible spots that's but that could just be
Speaker 31him unfortunately he doesn't draw his own barriers i know but it could be just
Speaker 2one of those horses rope them in i love him and i love wolfie and these connections but he's just whammy every time you think like he was disappointing in the goal rush last year wasn't he when he had his chance well i'm i'm
Speaker 31talking i'm talking about winter bottoms and quokkas and he's been huge um in the last several editions he just can't draw the right guy but i also in saying that i do think he lacks maybe the class to also win a race like that if given the right opportunity so as boring as it is i just think focus always with unless you think one of these is uh the next big thing just focus on the eastern state that's coming across if there's only two and we can get him at a back and safe price just do it we're
Speaker 2running out of time so let's have a look at the northerly you want to touch on this race here terry cosmic crusader 275 this is weight phrase 1800 meters buckaroo 350 bd6 king of light 6 pericles 11 he's not coming rock fest 11 zambardo is coming he's at 11 surfing bird geordie childs is being booked to ride in the railway she's 13 for the northerly um and then you get profit motive at 15 will the philly go then rogers at 15 so there's the three-year-olds and you're getting 15 western empire yeah exactly it's
Speaker 31it's a cracker i mean is buckaroo coming or do we know for sure he's on that plane i
Speaker 2reckon he'll go on both the railway and the northerly
Speaker 31perfect well there you go now it looks a cracking race i just think the one angle with the northerly is how dominant the three-year-olds have been over the journey they probably haven't had to run into a cosmic crusader on a cox plate prep um or buckaroo as well so i think it's a cracking race i just think the one angle with the northerly is how well but i think profit motive will start a dollar 50 or something on on saturday and a champion phillies which is an exempt race for the northerly um mitch has said he's not going to back up um i'd say the only reason he'd back up in the guineas if she's a good thing beaten or something and he wants to to find another way to get into this race but you just know that there will still be money for the horse with 50 kilos with a heap of upside it's just how it always is every single uh every single time of the year so i would be backing profit motive each way at 15 that's confidence futures wise um in the current books but i just know that if she does what everyone expects them to what the market probably will expect her to on saturday she will start shorter than that um in a northerly states in a few weeks time pete anthony's yeah
Speaker 25nothing further there profit motive clearly the horse out of the champion phillies if she can knock that off going to the northerly but gee did you say zambardo is coming yes he is yeah i forgot to put him down did i forget to put him down yeah you need to have something on zambardo he's a really good good three proper good three horse um i think the the firmer deck there at ascot will suit he's got the tactic uh tactical versatility i've been waiting for him to go forward all preparation he finally did that at rose hill and and you know he was just claimed late there by evaporate who was having a good day um he's got a little bit more on what some of the locals will have and at least he's got that versatility to actually go forward so uh in a race that could be a bit messy otherwise i think he's a big price yeah
Speaker 2sorry zambardo is going i've got to put him down my fault but um um as terry pointed out i've been making too many i've been making too many mistakes and that is a big mistake there with sabato is definitely going to the northerly so there we go boys um i'm a bit nervous to ask you terry did you get he's now the second favorite western empire for the railway he's into five
Speaker 31dollars no i haven't got a sense on yeah it's quite funny yesterday actually after we spoke because i knew i had to go and get me any futures bets on that i wanted to so i went down to the local westpac branch to withdraw some cash and kind of have a bet and it was shut so then i've gone on the account westpac's had all these issues anyway long story short i'm not on so um i'm hoping a few of the prices are still standing in an air and a half and uh i'll do my
Speaker 2best i just found that information i just text grant williams then he said that d lane's been booked so um because i was thinking like as good as the grasshopper's been i don't know if they would put him on in a group one um but there you go he gets his chance um to win another railway stakes western empire if i gave you a hundred dollars right now i'm going to have to put him on in a group one um but there you go right now what would you do with it from a futures perspective terry uh i'd have it
Speaker 31on super sensei in the last today and then i'd have eight or nine hundred um and then i'll have 450 each way on uh profit motive peter anthony
Speaker 25i would probably by default g no i'll just wait to see who wins the rj peters and i'll just have it on that horse like terry said before yeah i think rock fest i would love to see rock fest make this railway stakes and just on that we need to change how we're rating something these four-year-olds you know we have another year because every year this is out yeah how much better would this railway be if you had western miss and rock fest and aberdeen flyer and uh what's the other four-year-old and there'll be a
Speaker 2few roadblocks trying to go well we just hopefully you can find some form under handicap conditions there'll be roadblocks in the railway stakes this year there always is um if you're that bad out of four you
Speaker 31could almost run second the way it's looking you could almost run second in the peters this way you can be very close to qualifying so that's when they need to use their discretionary powers and say say rock fest run second or western miss run second it's a cracker they clear out you know they're clearly two horses that should be in a railway and there are a couple of points behind a mojo rhythm or something like that i i hope this year they say well you know what sorry mojo or sorry whoever it is but this horse needs to be in and you're going to be a one so um yeah because i do think there's a bit of a tail this year we'll
Speaker 2talk about that on friday love your works pete and terry have a great day cheers g yeah i can't wait for when cosmic crusader wins the railway and we said to terry we told you so thanks for your company on giddy up it's been a lot of fun today um we'll catch you again tomorrow morning from eight o'clock have a great day
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