Giants Hire Harbaugh, Full Divisional Round Preview, Chicago Apex, and Eggs Manske

[MUSIC] Welcome to the Reader Fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hypes, and today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. We are going over all the divisional round games in NFL playoffs, but first, let's get to the real news of the day, the New York Giants have hired John Harbaugh as the New York Giants head coach. Tika, who's got it better than us? >> Is this the greatest moment of your Giants fandom since I've known you in, I think we met in 2016? >> I guess winning a playoff game has to be better. >> When they beat the Vikings, that was a big moment. >> The Tommy Cutlet's era? >> Maybe, the Tommy Cutlet's era that ensured the Giants would not get Drake May or Jayden Daniels or Caleb Williams. >> Well, it was fun in a moment. >> It was so fun in a moment. >> What about when Cam Scataboo and Jackson Dart took that photo together? >> That's the top thing in terms of it. >> That one night where the Giants beat the Eagles and then they were cool for a day. And then I called Craig and it was really drunk and the Giants are back and then they all got hurt. >> The Giants are better than the Eagles. >> He called me, Craig the Giants are better than the Eagles. >> And then I still might believe that. >> I don't know. >> Yeah, well, it's true. The table got fired three weeks later, whatever. I'm thrilled by this. I don't know, the way I look at this, beggars can't be choosers. And I am begging for the Giants to be competitive. You guys basically have barely known me watching competitive Giants football. It hasn't been a thing. I just keep thinking about, I'm probably do this job because of how much I love the Giants and how much my family loves the Giants and how much I grew up loving the Giants watching the Giants and my family. And I realized, nine of the last 10 times of Thanksgiving, I always go home for Thanksgiving as my family's favorite holiday. Nine of the last 10 Thanksgiving's, the Giants had already been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. >> That's kind of nice, spend time with your family, not have to worry about anything. There's no stakes, it's great, that's not a third of the season, we don't even have to worry about it. >> That's my dream. Instead every year, I'm like, guys, Steelers are probably going to squeak in, aren't they? >> Yeah, but I was thinking about how I felt about this because I couldn't sleep and I checked my phone three in the morning. And I saw the Giants, I heard John Harb, I was like, my God, I was freaking out of bed and now I couldn't fall back asleep. But I was actually thinking about what Craig said about the Steelers where it's like, you watch, why in a nutshell was it time for my Talmud to go? And I really think Craig nailed it when you were like, I watched that Steelers lose a playoff game and I felt nothing. And I think that is my, that is why I am so happy to have the Giants hire John Harb. Because the Giants, the Giants are the worst record in the NFL over the last decade. They have tied with the jets, the Giants, I mean, fewer playoff appearances than like the Browns. I wanted to make fun of the Browns, the Browns have been to the playoffs and as many times as the Giants are more. And in 2017 when the Giants were awful, I was really angry. And then by like 2021 when the Giants were awful at embarrassing, I was actually just sad. And in 2026 when the Giants were terrible, I kind of didn't feel anything at all. I have totally become numb to them losing game after game and year after year and all the stats. And starting two and eight, three straight years and 10 game losing streaks and the worst in 50 years and the worstness in 100 years. And I don't even care. It's like, we have the Giants up among all my games on Sundays and I would start getting wandering eyes in the fourth quarter because they're just getting blown out over and over and over and over again. And I just want the Giants to be competitive and I think John Harboh will make them competitive and I guess in a nutshell, the Giants are not a laughing stock anymore. You guys and everyone have been making fun of the Giants for 10 years and I think that if anything what the Harbohiring means is the Giants are not a joke anymore. Are they going to start scoring some touchdowns? I really hope so. Those are big, they say those are big at the very, very least. You're going to have a healthy kicker on your roster. Oh, yeah, that's a good point because he's a special teams guy. He knows the importance of that. The Giants, what was three games over two years because they didn't anticipate that they're injured kicker should maybe they should back up on the game day. It's a tough time to talk about Ravens kickers, but yeah, you're right. Generally, you know, it might work out. This is the first time the Giants have had a coach that people respect since Tom Coffley, right? Yeah, I think Brian Dable that one season, he was top. Dable had a moment, yes, that one year. And I knew he was bad when the offseason went on Jimmy Fallon and people were shooting like a celeb and I'm like, this rise was too fast. Yeah, but other than that, no, no one's, I mean, Ben McAduce showed up to his opening press conference in a suit that didn't fit. Everyone made fun of him for the big plate. I probably forgot about that. Joe Judge, disaster. Yeah, there's been a lot, patch shirmer for two seasons. Yeah, to me, this is just like, and not so the difference to me here is like, I agree with you completely. I bet you're like, beggars can't be cheaters, but that even undersells Harbaugh a little bit. Harbaugh is one of the most accomplished respected coaches in the league. You getting him is just such a steady hand. And now different from what like the Raiders had with Pete Carroll last year, the Raiders were still a mess. It was like, all right, Geno Smith, I guess the offensive lines of disaster, the defense wasn't good. The giant you're kind of coming in and you're like, we think we have our quarter rack. Right, Jackson Dart, we think we have a young quarterback that we that has some promise, some potential. We have a couple skill position players that we like. We have Malik neighbors who we know is very good. We like Cam's category. We have pieces on the offensive line that are okay. We have one of the best offensive lines in the league. And now we have a top five, top 10 head coach in the league. You have all of the foundational pieces, I would say now, to really do something. Yeah, in order, we're way better than the Jets are, which is like important. And then frankly, I feel maybe better than where Washington is because Jan Daniels is great. But I mean, they fired Kling's Berry. Like you got to end Quinn there and the little teetering. It's like the oldest roster in the league in Washington. The Eagles are in a really weird spot. Like I feel good about where the giants are. I agree, at Harbaugh to the pedigree thing, I mean, there's a lot of stats on it. But one of them was like the only coaches with more playoff win. I mean, Harbaugh won 180 games, won 180 and 113 in the regular season, the Ravens. Harbaugh has 13 playoff wins. I believe the only coaches with more playoff wins than Harbaugh are like, you know, Bill Belichick and Andy Reed and like Chuck Null and Tom Landry and Don Shula and Joe Gibbs. And like basically just all inner circle hall fame coaches. And then it's John Harbaugh. It is funny that like, I don't know. I'm sure some people are like, oh, cool, you got, you know, you got the Ravens Sloppie seconds. You're getting John Harbaugh after he couldn't do it with Lamar Jackson. And like to me, basically you have John Harbaugh as your head coach because Lamar Jackson injured his hamstring. That is how I feel. That is how I feel. They are a Zay flowers fumble. A Mark Andrews bobble from going to maybe two Super Bowls in the last three years. And you just have that coach because Lamar Jackson injured his hamstring. Right. They would have they would have been in the playoffs if the kicker would have made a kick. Right. I literally, yeah, they make the kick that maybe the Ravens end up beating the Texans in playoffs. But DK, I'm curious we think because I understand, and this is actually how my brother feels, but I understand that there is downside. There's risk with Harbaugh. I think frankly for the Giant's perspective, selfishly, it's by far the safest thing the Giant's could do if Harbaugh doesn't work out. It won't be on the team for hiring him. And then also it just is the smartest move after all these guys. But there was certainly a risk for a couple reasons. One, Harbaugh 63. If Jackson Dirt does end up having a long career, Harbaugh probably won't be the last coach. The Jackson Dirt has because he's 63. It's like, so I feel like you would be happy to address those problems. If seven years from now, Jackson Dirt is still in the Giant's and is good. And you're like, well, Harbaugh 70 now. Those are like, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. He's a young 63 anyway. He doesn't look 63 at all to me. Yeah, well, Pete Carroll's young 73. But I don't know, but DK, I guess decade. Do you think there's any. I think if there's risk to this, it's Harbaugh 63. He's a CEO coach that's really what he brings. He's adulthood, no crazy mistakes the giants have been making. The irony is that the giant's biggest issue was the sloppiness of blowing games. They should have won. And frankly, it's also what the Ravens have been known for the last five or six years. It's excruciating losses in the Ravens, the Ravens should have won. But the difference to me is, if there's an issue, it's more that Kevin's defense game maybe gets hired where the Titans and makes Cam ward into like a pseudo MVP candidate in Tennessee. Or that maybe Mike McDaniel does get a head coaching job. And like Resurex to Falcons or does you know what I mean? Like maybe one of these offensive guys does great work elsewhere. And they're like 10 to 15 years younger than Harbaugh. And you're like, oh, maybe the giant should have gone with a younger offensive guy to develop Jackson Tart. Right. Do you think just because frankly, I'm always a little skeptical and literally everyone agrees on something. It does feel like everyone's like great job giants, John Harbaugh. Do you think there's a world that the giant should have looked harder at an offensive person? Or is this just like the slim dunk? I mean, yeah, there is a world in which they made the wrong choice here. It's funny because if you just look at last year, there's two really good examples of both sides of the coin here. So like we mentioned Pete Carroll. Like I thought Pete Carroll was going to be successful. I thought bringing in Geno Smith was a good move because it gave them some veterans stability at the quarterback position. That turned out to be a freaking disaster. Overall, Pete Carroll was an absolute disaster in Las Vegas. But there was a lot of extenuating circumstances, it's regulated all that out. Like this was just a horrible, roster, horrible team. The other side of the coin is Mike Raeble, who took the Patriots team, who just needed like a guiding, you know, adult in the room type of coach, a guy who's like, getting command respect from the players and media alike. You know, that you could go down the list. There's a lot of similarities, I think, between Raeble and Harbaugh. And turn the Patriots into a freaking 14-win team with a young quarterback. And like basically, you know, no skill players. Or like a handful of interest, and couldn't beat Pete Carroll in week one. Yeah. If I would have told you that if I would have explained this all in week one, we would have turned out the other way around. But so it is interesting, I think, to see that there's both sides of the coin there. I think it's absolutely possible this doesn't work out. But I do think more likely than not, Harbaugh is going to be a good thing for the organization. It, you know, brings in that institutional knowledge, I think of, you know, how to win and how to organize practices and how to do all that. So, how to deal with the media. There's just so many, there's so many variables to being a head coach. And at least we know he can handle like most of them, you know what I mean? I think any of these new coaches might be a total disaster in one area and like, really good at offense or whatever. But there's just, I think, fewer variables when you're talking about Harbaugh. If it's you made the basketball analogy, you're like, is this a slam dunk? It's a layup, I think. It is, you had a fast break and you could have tried to win Mill. You could have stopped and shot a three. You laid the ball up. And you know what? It's probably what you need to get, you know, to get a lead. I think you're absolutely right. And also, I wanted to talk to you guys because this is time for, let's be honest, everyone's single favorite football activity, which is, so the schedule doesn't come out till May, but the opponents, you know, from the second season end. So I just want to quickly, with John Harbaugh now, go through the giant schedule and just, just preview exactly what's going to happen. So the giant's home games next year, Cowboys, that's a win. Easy. Fastball high up. No chance. Eagles, they're drowning. There's no way you're going to win. Commanders, that's a dub, 3-0. Jags, Jaguars, that's a, that's a loss element. Niners, I'll be generous, that's a loss. But then Titans, easy win. Browns, easy win. Saints, Tyler Schuckert, that's an easy win. So right there, that's six wins at home. Six and two at home. Away, Cowboys, that's a win. Giant's dominant in Jerry World. Eagles, I'll admit, lost and Philly, beat the commanders, beat the Cardinals. You lose to the Texans, you beat the Colts. You lose to the Rams, you lose to see how to beat the Lions. 11 and seven. Sorry, 11 and six, Giant's wins. My 18 games, okay. Yeah, well, well, you never know. I mean, anything's bad. That's true. Yeah. The last season's going to be wild. So I'm just telling Giant's 11 wins. They're going to win the division. How do you feel about the likelihood that Todd Munkin is going to be your offensive coordinator? I like it. I like Todd Munkin. I will admit that part of me just thinks he's the most interesting quote of any offensive coordinator. Like, he's kind of like a philosopher. Like, the way he talks about football is interesting. But at the end of the day, he came in. And the first year, he was the, the offense coordinator for the Ravens. Lamar Jackson literally won the MVP. And then the second year was Lamar better. He threw 41 touchdowns and four exceptions. And then didn't win the MVP. But maybe it was better than the MVP, arguably. And then this year, Lamar got hurt. And the Ravens fumbled weird stuff happened. And now it's like, oh, Todd Munkin and Harbour are at. I'm like, I don't know. He seemed like he did a pretty good job with Lamar. I'm pretty into the, I mean, he was the coordinator for Georgia when Georgia won the championship 63 to seven or whatever over TCU, sorry to Kai and the, you know, the frogs. But I, if Todd Munkin doesn't get the Browns job, I think it's very clear. Todd Munkin will be the Giants offensive coordinator. I love that. It's funny. Oh, I like it. Is he hired yet or not? No, so Harbour is Munkin. Munkin. No, he's interviewing for the Browns head coaching job. And the deal is basically if Todd Munkin gets that, obviously he's going to take a head coaching job. But if he doesn't get the Browns head coaching job, I think he's going to be the Giants offensive coordinator. You know, it's funny is Todd Munkin's Wikipedia right now. Currently says he is the offensive coordinator for the Giants 2026. Is that because you and Rappaport reported this morning that it's expected Munkins could have been the offensive coordinator. But like, yeah, who knows? Which I feel like you don't post that unless it's going to happen. I mean, I think he will be the offensive. I mean, he's, I don't know these get the Browns job either. Like I think that it's due diligence, I think, to interview the coordinators of your division rivals because they've game planed against you for years. You should probably get their thoughts for seven hours. But yeah, so I'm thrilled about this. This is awesome. I'm very happy for you. This is great. Thank you. What a week for the podcast. The Seahawks are like the number one seed in the NFC and then like Tomlin out and then Harbour to the Giants. Like, we'll say, I guess it's less positive for Craig, but a lot of stuff for us. I mean, well, I will say. Topical. I'm really crossing my fingers. I have decided that where I want the Steelers to land is I want them to hire Chris Shula as their head coach and bring in Nate. Sheel Haas, is that how we say his name? Sure. She sounds like a guy, like a Steelers legend already. Yeah, he's got that. It's like, Sheel Haas works for the Pittsburgh accident. It's like gentleman's piss club in Germany. Yeah, Sheel Haas. I want Shula head coach, Sheel Haas offensive coordinator. We just basically steal all the good people from the Rams and they're all like 38 years old. That's right. Please do. I want some brain drain happening from the Rams right now. Yeah. I, yeah, I actually do think that will end up happening. I think the interview is probably a matter of the Steelers maybe more than other teams, but I think that's smart. I do think Kevin Stefansky might be the next guy hired. I feel like he will be a top guy for the Falcons and Matt Ryan, the president there now, is which is fun to say. And then I think the Titans are going to be really any Kevin Stefansky because the Titans won in Matt LaFlaur and he went to the Packers. And so I think the Titans might see Kevin Stefansky as their best option of Kim Ward. I think Steve Bischotti, the owner of the Ravens, gave a wild press conference. He was pretty lubricated. He just, he was having a good time. He was drunk. Not drunk, but he, like, he's loose. He was a fat loose guy for team that did make the playoffs. And he was talking about how all the former offensive coaches that did really well and were gurus in the past, but had bad quarterback cards dealt to them. Like Kevin Stefansky, he was fascinated by them. And he just said that. So it'd be kind of wild if the Ravens hired Kevin Stefansky, that'd be crazy. Especially because the Ravens were the Browns, that would be insane. But I think Stefansky is probably the next domino. And then also the Packers and Matt LaFlaur. I know I think we all kind of agreed that the Packers firing Matt LaFlaur would be stupid because he'd instantly be the best candidate, probably better than Kevin Stefansky. But the way it works, so he is a year left in his contract, but that teams don't literally 31 teams don't let coaches coach on the last year of their deal, because you're like a lame duck and the players know it. And like, it's hard to get the players to listen to a coach that his contract's expiring. So they, if they have, don't fire LaFlaur, they have to extend him, and his contract is taken on what's taken like three weeks to do, and it's usually done by now. So unless something happens in LaFlaur, I think Stefansky is the next guy to get hired, and then there's going to be like probably a cascade after Stefansky. - I'd like the record to state that if Matt LaFlaur is a free agent, I would like the Steelers to hire him immediately. - Yeah, I just, basically, I'm not arguing. And Dee, tell me if you feel differently. I just think LaFlaur has absolutely botched a lot of game management and clock management stuff at the end of games, but it's easier for him to learn that that finds someone else who knows that stuff, and also is being able to build off, since like LaFlaur has also the Packers average age is 25. It's an incredibly young team. - Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. I think it would be ludicrous if they fire Matt LaFlaur. - I would do Matt LaFlaur in a year of Malik Willis. Get things going. - Sure. - Let's pull it. - Yeah. - All right, let's get to the divisional round here. Let's just dive into a DK, your team. The Seattle Seahawks, your hosting is San Francisco 49ers. - You had a week off to kind of relax. Forget about things. Now you gotta game at home. - I've seen you guys last week during the wild car ride. I was like, "My God." - When your team is not playing in the playoffs, but they're still in it, best feeling in the world. - It is. - Why weeks are the best when your team's not playing? - I don't have to worry about what bullshit they're gonna do in this game. It's so fun to watch. - I gotta be honest, I just think straight up across the board, a playoff game that your team is not in is just better than a game that your team is in. - Oh, it's interesting. - It's just, it's torturous to watch your team. - Like you obviously want to throw all the dice because your team could win the Super Bowl, but like if you just asked me, would you rather watch the Steelers in a playoff game or a different playoff game? I'd probably just say different playoff. - That's like, that's maybe that's the real take. It's actually the giant's being terrible's great because I just watch all these games. - Yeah, you can just enjoy it. - Yeah, you're like, what is it, LeFler from Dodge Ball? He's like, "Yeah, when you have no expectations, "everything is fine." And if you gotta tell you, it feels phenomenal. - Yeah, it's like, do you want to cook dinner for six people at a dinner party or do you want to attend a dinner party? - Yeah. - Like, it's just way easier. - Passage or princess is great. I don't want to figure out where we're going every five. - Along that line, along those lines. Guess what I saw while you guys were talking about coaching candidates. Sam Darnold has been added to the injury report today with an oblique injury. He's questionable for Saturday. Things are going great. After taking a freaking week off to rest and recuperate, he hurts his oblique in practice. This is the first time hearing about it. It just happened, so obviously we'll find out if it's like actually something to worry about. - So, my honest to God first take with that is that, oh, and actual first take with my immediate reaction, is I think I would have been more worried about something like that two years ago, because it's like, oh, he pulled his oblique and maybe he can't play. To be honest, we're recording this Thursday. I think there was like a couple dozen college basketball players and it involved in a potential like point shaving fraud schemes. And it's like, every sport has been like, really heavily touched by gambling stuff in like injury reports. The NFL has been really cracked down on injury reports and teams like, they're like, 'cause remember, this was the Ravens fold, actually a little more, like Omar Jackson, like they didn't report that he was on the Friday, that I'm full participant that he didn't play. And I think DK, the optimism would say, maybe Darnold's fine and he just felt it and they're like, we're going to report it. We don't want to get into trouble. - Sure, probably what happened, he did not, he played, he was off to the side today at practice and Drew Locke got starters reps at practice, which is alarming to say the least. - That's super concerning. That's super concerning. - It's ironic because like the only reason the C-OX are going to lose this week is because of Sam Darnold, but if he doesn't play, they will definitely lose. - Well, I'm fucking Drew Locke. - Drew Locke, who's best game ever was to cost the Giants the number one pick. Well, let's just get right into Darnold. I mean, you know, he has been at this amazing stat decay. Darnold led the NFL 20 turn over to the season. It's the first time since 1978, a player in a number one seeded team led the league in turn over. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Super. - Yeah. - Well, it's enough to make this look at trophy. - You got there. - It's a tremendous looking stat you brought to the table. Thank you for that. Yeah, and it is, you know, when you look at the entire season with Darnold, obviously like the numbers look really good, but you know, if you split it up between weeks one and 10, basically that Rams game where he threw four picks can split the season in two. And from weeks one to the time, I saw this from BSPN. Weeks one to 10, Darnold was number one in QBR. From week 11 on, he was 27th in QBR. So that is why I've kind of been harping on this. I'm sure Siob fans are tired of me forget like talking about Sam Darnold and worrying about Sam Darnold. But it just does feel like every, you know, he's got a Bozo plan in him every game at least. And I just really, that's the one thing that can kind of like throw this off the sea, except for Super Bowl defense. They have one of the best defenses we've seen in the DVOA era in terms of like their efficiency. So that is the worry here. Obviously, if you look at the last game, the Siob's absolutely stifled the 49ers. They didn't let Brock Pretty do basically anything. The one big difference, of course. Well, there's a couple of big differences. The big difference for the 49ers is Trent Williams is back, which is huge. I mean, if you look at the splits with and without Trent Williams during the Shanahan era, it's dramatic. It's stark. It's like insane actually. So that's huge for the 49ers. But their outkiddle is injured with a Killy's injury. So he's gone. He's obviously a big time player for them. And that hurts them. And obviously, the Siob's are getting Charles Cross back. I left tackle. So that's a bonus. It's not the exact same matchup as we saw last year. I think the big thing here is Trent Williams. Alas, in week 18, I should say. And also the 90ers linebackers, which were injured last week as well and been injured. But I don't think teams took advantage of them. The same would be like the Eagles, because her kind of struggle is throwing over the middle of the field. You didn't really sense how much Eric Kendrick's who was was washed like years ago. And then Garrett. The name I haven't heard in a while. I know. Dude, the linebackers first the Eagles to win the game where Eric Kendrick's and Garrett Wallow. I think Garrett Wallow sounds like a bird. Sure. Like, you know what I mean? Like that just Carolina Wallow. Exactly. Like, you know, there's barn wallows and Garrett wallows. But I feel like the nine basically that the Siob's are going to absolutely just spam everything against these nine years linebackers who, frankly, like literally, I mean, Fred Warner says he might come back, but at the very least that's set Fred Warner for season ending injury with no practice. Oh, he's not coming back. Shanahan just said he said, I mean, that makes sense. Because I mean, Fred, I think Fred Warner might play the Super Bowl if the Niners make it. But yeah, I feel like it just comes down to Ken Darnold, Richard Locke, take advantage of the Niners linebackers more than the Niners can confuse Darnold trying to take advantage of the Niners linebackers. DK, what is your, what is your confidence versus nervous scale right now? Like, oh, that's a good question. The Siob beat the Niners 13 to three a little bit ago, kind of dominated that game defensively. I mean, the Niners scoring three points. I don't know, it wins the last time the Niners scored three points under Shanahan. Literally the first game from Shanahan. Well, his first game, he scored three points and then a week 18, he scored three points. Those are his two worst games. So like, where are you at in the, I'm not that nervous. The Niners roster is completely depleted and we should win this game by 17. Or are you like, I'm terrified Darnold's gonna blow this and the Niners are like a sports movie team that shouldn't be in any of these games and yet they are. - If the Darnold's gonna blow it is one and I'm really confident they're gonna kick the 49ers ass is 10. I'm probably like at like a seven. I feel better about this game than I would feel about if I was playing the Rams, if the Siob was playing the Rams. But you know, especially because of this Darnold question, especially because Siob fans were fricking rooting for this, which always makes me nervous. It's they were like, everyone was celebrating when the 49ers get to come down. It's just like Jesus. We're just tempting fate here. But at the end of the day, like analytically taking bias out of it like the Siob should be the 49ers. I think that they have a very good chance to do so. But you know, it's the playoffs and anything can happen. - It just comes down to, again, inside of San Darnold, there are two wolves. And one of them is one of the idiot. - Yeah, you know, it's funny. I don't feel like San Darnold feels like he leads the NFL intern over this year. It doesn't feel like that. (laughing) - It does feel that way to me. - That's it? - Yeah. - Well, it's because of the back half. It was all in the back half. - Yeah, I think the first 10 weeks. - They did come in bunches. - They were so good and everyone watched Darnold and decided like, all right, he's for real. We had Minnesota last year. We have this this year and maybe by week 10, they were like, I've seen all I need to see. And the record is obviously so good. And the defense is able to like keep them in games even when he does commit turnovers. - Yeah, yeah. - I don't know, man. When is the like, do you think Darnold would be the least trust worthy quarterback to win a Super Bowl in a while? - No, because I feel like the defensive team, I think honestly, we can get to this with this. - What's the last thing? It's probably Nick Folls. - Yeah. - In 2018. - Definitely, definitely probably the last guy, because I think Texans and CLX are actually very similar. I think CJ Stroud is the same Darnold although the AFC doesn't have the same rep. But I think Stroud is the biggest weakness on that team at this point, which is weird 'cause I also love the way he plays sometimes. But it feels to me like drive to drive sometimes. Stroud, it's kind of a little Darnold-esque. And but. - It's either, it's either Folls or if you go all the way back to 2012 when it was Flacco. - But if you look at just like teams that almost won a Super Bowl, there are plenty of great defenses that either one or almost one, where it's like the box had Brad Johnson, the rave is a Trent Dilfer, the Bears, made the Super Bowl for the Colts. - Yeah, Rex Closet. - This is a Super Bowl. - You're talking about a really long time ago. - Like, yeah, but it's like, you go through. It's like, it happens. I don't forget how people talked about Ely Manning before he actually beat the Patriots in 2007. - Sure. - Ely Manning wasn't well thought of. That was a great defense. So it absolutely happens. Again, Nick Folls won a Super Bowl as a back and quarterback. - I mean, even Russell Wilson early on, I was like, well, so Wilson. So I think the difference is Darnold and Stroud are absolutely, or Mark Sanchez, and the AFC champ made back-to-back AFC championship games. I think Darnold and Stroud are unquestionably better than all of those guys, but they're not the traditional game manager, like I think of Alex Smith in that, but they'll protect the football, but they can't win you the game. - You think Darnold and Stroud are unquestionably better than like Ely Manning and Russell Wilson and Joe Flacco and all those guys? Are you talking about more like Rex Closet and Trent Dilfer? - The Rex Closet and Trent Dilfer, because at my point is maybe I should have been clear. The Texans and CLX defenses have the potential to in retrospect be viewed as all-time units. Like they have the potential to be seen as the best defense so far of the 2020s if they go on a run right now. In which case, I think Darnold wouldn't be viewed like Brad Johnson, he'd be viewed more like a Joe Flacco or Ely Manning, like it'd be viewed more like a tier. - And I don't think to be clear, I, the fact that Darnold can lead a game-winning drive, late in the game and make some like pro-fosters throws, puts him in a different category in my mind than, you know, 'cause I think I catastrophize it a little bit with the turnovers. It is the main thing that worries me with him, but he's got some, he's got some magic in him too and I really do appreciate that and acknowledge that because like if the CX are down two points with a minute to go, I'm feeling like pretty good about it, actually. - How do you feel about Brock Pretty? Would you switch right now and take Brock Pretty and the CX over Sam Donald? - Probably. - I think you have to. - Probably. - 'Cause I think there is a little bit of pretty as well. We're like once or twice a game, he makes a completely bone headed throw and it's a terrible interception, but they're a little similar in that regard. I was trying to think of like, what are you even nervous about? Other than like, Shanahan Blackmagic, Donald collapsing like in terms of just like talent on the field, is there any position group that you're like, we're worse? - Hmm. - No. - Probably not. - I guess, run back, run back. - Yeah, that's why I said it the way I said it. I think that the CX on paper, if you just take it out, take the bias out of it in the CX fear that's instilled in me out of it, the CX should win this game. They are the better team, but you know, crazy things happen and that's what I'm worried about is like, some weird wacky shit happens early in the game and it gets out of hand. We saw that in the last game with the week 18. Like the CX probably should have won that game by 25 or whatever, but it was close to the end because of funky shit that kept happening. Like the CX kicker missed two field goals that he normally would make. He's like one of the most accurate kickers in the league this year and he just missed he missed an extra point and a field goal. And then yeah. - It's not just Donald, the CX have to be able to run the ball. And we can move on, but the CX have to be able to run the ball because they've been tricking teams all year like the Ramsat where they put two or three tight ends on. So the other teams put more linebackers on the field and then they ha ha and they throw on the linebackers. The Niners are not getting tricked by putting their shitty deserves signed off the couch linebackers under the field. So they're gonna have more defensive backs and the CX are gonna have to be able to run on the, when the Niners are matching with nickel or a dime like more defensive backs, basically. The CX have to be able to run on those looks and like, you know, that's been a week. - So we'll see, we'll see. - I'm sorry. I'm genuinely hoping for you. I also assume you're gonna be a big bears fan because I have to imagine nobody wants the CX fan wants to see the Rams. - The enemy or the enemy of my enemy is my friend. - Yeah, like Donald's had 11 picks in 20 sacks versus the Rams in the last 365 days. So yeah, the Rams are at Chicago this week. The Rams are three and a half point favorites. Craig, you are, are you worried at all? Like where do your legions just lie between your brother Sean McVeigh and your favorite team this season, the Chicago Bears? - I, whatever happens after the game, I'll say I was rooting for that team, is my plan. But for Rams, then I'll be like, so happy for McVeigh. I secretly wanted that to happen the whole time. And if the bears went, I'm like, team of Destiny, I love this fucking team. This is unbelievable. I'm most excited for this game out of any game this weekend. This is just gonna be great. This in Chicago, it's gonna be cold as hell. We windy. - Playoff football, baby. - Yeah, this is fantastic. Did you guys know that I read this in an athletic piece that the field, like the actual grass in Chicago is known as the turf monster? Are you aware of that? - I've heard of the expression turf monster. - It's nicknamed the turf monster and is known to trick players up in the open field at times. It feels like this is like a, like a spirit that takes over during games in Chicago. - The Holy Ghost. - Yeah, but I've been seeing a lot of stuff online about like Stafford and Coldweather. I don't buy any of that. Stafford is a dog, Puca's a dog, Devonte, playing a green bay for like eight years. Like all these guys are dogs. I'm not worried about that at all. - They're also gonna run the hell out of the ball. - I think that's what, I think this whole game is like, who's not gonna turn the ball over. Both these defenses are vulnerable. Both these defenses can let up points. And I think both these offenses are like, run the ball, play action, big play, score touchdowns and don't turn the ball over. And like the Rams, 13 personnel stuff, they're gonna get Terrence Ferguson, they're tied in back. The Rams are pretty healthy. I mean, Stafford heard his finger and that has to be monitored. And there was a moment there. - Yeah, he did it. - He's in the air stream, he's fine. - Yeah, they like, he's an epidural in his finger. So he'll be fine. - He's got like the back to tank, remember from Star Wars? - That's what he's got in the, in the air stream. - But like Stafford was in the snow against the Eagles last year, it was great. Like I just, I don't think that's a narrative at all to me at least. I think it's gonna be hard for her. I mean, it's fucking cold for everybody. - It's what I'm clinging to, Craig. - Let me have this. - They're gonna, they're gonna fold like a cheap, what is the extent? - Tent, tent, yeah. - Launcher? - Like the Blue Tent. - Yeah, the $90 Blue Tent. - I think, I don't know, man. These are like two teams that are fucking heroic in the fourth quarter. These are two offenses and quarterbacks and schemes that are just like, do crazy stuff in the fourth quarter. I'm a little surprised that the Bears are getting, are underdogs by three and a half points at home. That is a little spicy to me. - Isn't the most obvious thing to just bet the Rams line and then wait for them to take a huge lead and then bet the Bears and just kind of like playable sides. 'Cause this is basically, the Rams have the craziest ways all year to lose games and the Bears have the craziest ways all year to win games. - Like how are the Rams have to be up to start this game where D.K. were like, this is over. I mean, the number does not exist. - 29? - It's high. - By the way, the expression is fold like a cheap suit, I think. - That, why wouldn't it be 10? - I think it's long. - I don't care. - Well, I was picturing a lawn chair. - Yeah. - Fold like a cheap suit. - Yeah. - Why would you fold any suit? - Well, 'cause if you have to pack it up and then go somewhere, I don't know. - I don't know. - I feel like a cheap tent makes more sense. - I agree. - Yeah. - But anyway. - This is ghost. - All the ghosts are screaming. They are screaming us right now. Like telling us the answer. D.K. the Bears left tackle Aussie Trapilo towards Pateler Tendon. And the Theo Benedet is now going to be the left tackle who's a little bit of struggle bust this season. I mean, basically get benched for Aussie Trapalo at left tackle and then TJ Edwards, the linebacker for the defense is out. But he hasn't been playing as well. I feel like the Rams defensive line has underperformed relative to where we had them after watching that Eagles playoff game. We talked to the Aussies about awesome they are. And then they've been not the game wrecking force. I think we had envisioned. And I think it's pretty important for them to not allow Caleb to expand plays. When the Rams cornerbacks suck and are absolutely gonna be the liability for the Rams on defense. - I mean, they had trouble containing Bryce Young, Teteroma McMillan and Jalen Coker. And now it's Caleb Williams, D.J. Moore, Luther Bergnan, and Roman Dunesay. I mean, that's a bit of a level up. I'm verging on like, I don't really care what's going on just taking the Bears territory 'cause like this team is magical. That's kind of like where I'm at. I'm like, I don't care that their linebacker T.J. Edwards is out. I don't care that the Rams are getting-- - Your trailer left tackle is nature. - The Rams are getting Kevin Dott's and their guard back it looks like. Terrence Ferguson's coming back. The Rams are healthy. I'm just kind of like, maybe I'm thinking more from the spread perspective, but even straight up, I'm kind of just like, I don't know, man. - The Bears. - The Bears, the Bears. - Let's be honest, the Pope is from Chicago. - Right. - And then the Bears now have the most fourth quarter come back wins every, every NFL history and every week we say that, they actually keep adding a more and more remarkable, like the last four ones the Bears did were all better than the one before. Craig, do you think if the Bears win this game, do you think that means God is real? - Yeah, I'm gonna say yeah. I think so. (laughing) - D.J., how many games do the Bears have to win? Do you think God is real? Like officially. - How many games do they have to win before I believe in God? - Yeah. - Like, they have a 28 point comeback this week and beat the Rams. You need to win the Super Bowl. - If they win the Super Bowl, you'll find me at church. - I believe, I went right to church after STSU, hit that buzzer meter in the final four to go to the natty. That's what I knew God was real and on my side. (laughing) - Yeah, you thought God was real when you hit a half court shot when you were in college for a pickup truck and then you realized, it was fang when you actually - Yeah, then you realized the devil. - God didn't tell me about APR. - Yes. - It's a lease. - Lease options. - You're like, I don't have a parking spot. It's a college campus. - There's a crazy stat from this game. This is Sean McVey's 15th career playoff game and it's against his 15th different opponent. - Oh, interesting. - It's played in every scene of the playoff game he's been in as a different team. It's played half the league in the playoffs. - That's pretty crazy. - It's unbelievable. - Especially because of the nature of the playoffs he's made two Super Bowls. - Yeah. That's crazy because that means so patriots obviously in Bengals, so he's played 13 NFC teams of the playoffs. - That's true? - Look, it was on Twitter. - Oh, okay. - No, I'm sorry. - No, it is true. I didn't get it. - So the giants and, oh my God, that's kind of wild. - Here do you want me to read it off? - Yeah, I do. - I believe it is true. I think it was in the New York Times piece I read. - So 2025, it's Panthers and then this is the Bears. That last year they played the Vikings Eagles. The year before that, Lions. 2021 Cardinals, Bucks, 49ers, Bengals. You're before that, Seahawks Packers, 2018. Cowboys, Saints, and Patriots. - Wow, this is wild. (laughing) - It's really weird. - And then before that, it was Falcons. Yeah. Actually, I might have gone back too far. When did McVeigh take over? - 2017. - Yeah, that was, Falcons was that first year. They lost them. - Do you guys think that on paper there is a strong imbalance in this game favoring the Rams or no? - I think it has to be, yes. What do you think? I mean, I just, you look everywhere. It's like, would you rather a staffer to kill them? And it's like, I'd rather a staffer. Like, frankly, like, the only reason I'm, I kind of want, the death star with the Rams is, I just can't believe that Harrison Mevis is the kicker and it's thicker kicker and it's a joke. But like, special teams, yeah, across. - That's good. - Hint kicking in the wind in Chicago, this Rams punk coverage, the Rams punk units would not good. That's the, at some point, it always comes back to bite you. It's like, at the end of the year. It's like, that stuff always comes back around. And also, I just genuinely wonder about God. - Right. - I, the God piece, the God piece. I will say, if you still-- - We have a talk about the God piece here. - To steal something from the rewatchables. In the rewatchables Craig, which you produce here, they have the category Apex Mountain, which is a very Bill Simmons creation. And so, I have an important question for Belle to you. If the Bears win the Super Bowl, is it Apex Mountain for Chicago? - I mean, 85 Bears City, the Bulls. - Is basically, is Michael Jordan's Bulls run? - It's the Bulls. - But is that better than winning a Super Bowl and getting the Pope? The Pope and the Super Bowl in like six months? - No, the dual two three-peats in Chicago. This is not Apex Mountain. - I'm just asking, which rather two three-peats are a Pope and a Super Bowl? - I would way rather have two three-peats. - To be honest, people would kick the Pope out of the Vatican in a minute to win a Super Bowl. What are you talking about? (laughing) - Are you probably right? - Well, there we go, I also-- - Folks come and go, three-peats are eternal. - Three-peats are-- - Two or three-peats are eternal. - There was a great picture of Acris or Stadium, which I hate saying, Heinsfield. And it's like Yinser Conclave and it had like the smoke and it had like every, I think it was AI-generated. Everybody like surrounding to Stadium looking for the next coach. Which I thought was great. I did see a video recently, God, of somebody talking about how the 85 Super Bowl for the Bears is more important that the entire six championships for the Bulls. Like the Bears care about, I mean the Chicago cares about football so much more than anything else that they would take the 85 win over all six, Michael Jordan. - What I'm saying. - Who said that? - It's the Midwest. - There's no way that's correct. I think it was, I don't want to say, I'll double check. - Okay. - I can't remember if it was a Chicago native or not, but I want to double check. - I can't believe that. I wouldn't, I would, just the magic of being in Chicago during the Bulls runs. I can't even. - The mythology of Jordan changes it. But I mean, I guess another way to look at it is would you rather a Bulls title now or a Bears title now? I don't think you could find many people that, I wonder how long you'd have to go to find someone to rather have a Bulls title. - Well, and like, I think it's obvious if you said one Super Bowl versus one NBA championship, what should you take? They would take the Super Bowl. many NBA jammy tips could you get to before they take that over Super Bowl? That's the right question. You're like you get a four. Another three. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's more important to me and I was the signings, man. So good. But I'm a basketball. Okay. Anything else on Bears Rams other than it'll be cold and hopefully Matt Stafford can handle it. Barrett. All right. Oh, wait, sorry. Before we move on, let's cut the social breakouts right now. It's keep this in the show. Craig will post whichever whichever team wins will post these videos. So first crag bears just one this if they went will post this go. Team Destiny. You can't stop them. Pope. Everything's everything's coming together. I don't care who they're playing in the championship game. They're obviously going to the Super Bowl. This is it. Caleb Williams. We said he's going to win the Super Bowl in the next three years. He's going to win a Super Bowl this year and next year. Last week we were talking about how many Super Bowls versus NBA championships would you take? Would you take a three-peat for the Bulls? I think the Bears are going to get a three-peat. Perfect. All right. Now if the Rams win will do this, you like you never you always believed in the Rams. You never doubted them. From the moment I did fly and coach Sean McVey 2021. I knew that I mean look after we did flying coach. What did what happened? They won a Super Bowl. I always knew that he added in him for a second one. And look, the Bears. They're just getting started. You know what I mean? Like they are going to win. We said last week. There's bears are going to win another Super Bowl in the next three years. I stand by that. They even overachieved this year. And the Rams. There's a reason why Matt Stafford just won the MVP because of what he did. And it's why Drake May who just lost to the Texans didn't deserve the MVP. Throwing in other facts here. Okay. Next game here. Bills are at the Broncos. This game feels weird. I don't know why. Bills versus the Broncos. It doesn't feel right. I'm like, what is this? Well, I'll tell you what happened. The last time to these teams ever play. Well, they played. What is this? I don't know if you're joking. You're not, but they played last year in the playoffs and the bills actually kicked the living shit out of the Broncos. Yeah. I remember Bonyx March down score to touchdown. We're like, holy shit. They're like 50 touchdowns to start the game. And then the bills. I think it was like 42 seven. It was 30. Yeah. The Broncos literally didn't score again. They were the 30 one and seven. This is when the bills really went all out, putting six off into lineman on the field. And they just bully. They just as Matt Lafleur would say, they big boy, the Broncos, they ran. The bills ran 44 times for 210 yards in that wildcard win over the Broncos last year. The bills of the bowl for 42 minutes, which is about as many as much time of possession you'll see in a game that doesn't go over time in the modern NFL. Like it's hard for a team to have the ball less than 18 minutes, which is what the Broncos did. Like crazy domination. And I just feel like this is, I don't know, it's like, I feel like the Broncos, like the team that got bullied at the end of a school year. And then you have all summer, they're trying to like get bigger or trying to get taller and blifting weights. They took like karate and tried to be a yellow belt. And now like school started again, you're going to see the bully again. And but now it's like, it's at their turn. It's like Denver at altitude. Josh Allen's like, need it, you know, everything with Josh Allen that he's got going on in foot injury. And the Broncos, I think for their own psyche, really, really need to like return the favor and kick the shit out of the bills, or else it's like going to affect Denver. It feels like I'm just like, if the same thing is happening as last week, where I was like, I think the Jags have a better roster and might be better. But it's Josh Allen. And I'm kind of like, the Broncos are a better roster. And I think they're better. Well, it's Josh Allen. That's kind of where I'm at. Yeah. We also haven't seen the Broncos in three weeks. I mean, they didn't really, the week 18 didn't matter. They were off last week. It's been a while since we've seen the Broncos. And they've had a lot of like lackluster wins. It's like, they win these close games, low scoring. They lost to the Jags. And it's like, all right, we saw them beat the Chiefs on Christmas without Patrick Mahomes. Like, it has been a while. It's really since I mean, I week 14 15 since we've really been like, all right, that was a Broncos game that matter. Yeah, they beat the Packers and week 15. Yeah. It's funny too, because the first run by is also just confirmation bias, because when teams come out look good, you're like, man, that's why they got the one seed. And when teams suck, they're like, oh, look at them. They're rusty. I don't know, man. And the Broncos, I the truth is the bills are weirdly well suited to match up with Denver in a funny way, because the Broncos are incredible getting sacks. They've led the league in sacks for two years in a row, but Josh Allen's the hardest person to confer a pressure into a sack. So that gets mitigated. And then also the Broncos just are incredible at man coverage, because you have Patrick Sartain and you have Riley Moss who, you know, one of the better white cornerbacks we've ever had. So and it's we've ever had. I want to say, you know, take back your skimpy choosers, but it's funny, because the bills counter the great cornerbacks by the bills don't have any receivers were throwing to they have like Khalil Shakir and they have Brandon. Don't you dare say that about Khalil Shakir? I mean, he's great, but I'm just saying like the bills of everyone else has hurt. Charles Shavers has heard Gabe Davis has heard the bills receivers suck. So they don't have received like it's locked down the receivers. It's fine. The bills throw to running backs and tight ends. The bills throw to James Cook and they're going to throw to Dawson ox and Dalton concaid and like they're the most targets in the NFL per game, I believe is Josh Sheldon throwing his running backs and tight ends combined. They had that at the end of this morning. And that is how you want to attack the Broncos anyway. So they're kind of weirdly suited to even if the Broncos decide we don't want to let you run the ball like last time. That is how the bills are going to attack is like either spread them out or go heavy whatever, but like I do think they're going to be throwing the ball to running backs and tight ends. Obviously Josh has to play really well again, probably flawlessly. But I also think this is a huge game for Bo Nex because the difference between a bad game from Bo Nex and the Broncos go one and done versus beating Josh Sheldon in the playoffs, fair or not, we'll have a massive swing in how he gets talked about for the entire offseason. Look, I recognize and admit that I'm just being super simplistic about this, but like if you looked at this on paper, you should you would think that the Broncos are going to win. But then you look at the fact that the bills have Josh Allen and I think that they have they're going to win. I think the bills are going to be. So that's kind of the where I am. I basically, Craig basically saw all my thunder in terms of like talking about like the way that they've played the last like month has been very underwhelming even though they did pull out wins. You know, they beat a Justin Herbert list chargers team. They beat him a homeless chiefs team and then they lost the Jags before that. And then they were off last week. So I just don't have a ton of confidence in the way that they're playing right now, even though they they've set themselves up incredibly well. You know, so that's kind of where I am. I know it's a very simplistic way of looking at it. But like a lot of times in the playoffs, honestly, that kind of shit is really what matters. So I don't know. That's where I am. I just think Josh Allen. Again, it's the same deal from last week. If he can kind of do his superhero thing, the bills will win. And if he can't, if he doesn't, if he turns the ball over, if he whatever, then the Broncos will probably cruise. I think you're right. And if Josh does play at that level, then I think what's going to happen is the Broncos are going to try to run on the bills. And they're going to try to run them out of like two high safeties. And if they bring the safety down and try to get Bonix to look like one high safety looks, Bonix has to hit the deep throws. And that also is what's going to come out. Like Sean Payton is saying it out. He's like, we're going to take vertical shots in this game. And part of music mind games and part of he's like, I actually think he's just so fucking confident. I want to bring up Sean Payton. That's what did Sean Payton do now. Did you see how he's a total asshole to her part of the other day? Yes, I did actually miss this. When he was like, he asked him about getting Dre Greenlaw back and how he's like excited. Well, he asked him something about like, is he excited for him to come play Downhill or whatever? I think essentially what he's saying is like, what the impact does he bring against the run or whatever? And Sean Payton was like, you want him to attack Downhill? Like, what do you know about attacking Downhill in the run game? You don't know. It's like, dude, have you ever been asked a question before? I'm trying to give you that cool. You don't have to be a fucking asshole. Yeah, the reporter was like, it must be nice to get Greenlaw back. It's like, you know, one of your best like Downhill defenders. And Sean Payton was like, here's my chance to fuck this guy in. He's like, he like chuckled that. He's like, Downhill. He's like, what do you know about Downhill tackling? Just so validating for me personally. That would work for any question. Of course. Oh, you must hate that guy. Well, the Sean Payton don't be an asshole challenge. Dude, that is never forget how many different coaches. Hey, Sean Payton. It's funny, though. Also, he has, you know, no coach team is ever one. No coaches ever want to support two different teams. So Sean Payton advances. It's like, all you can hear about until they lose if the Broncos do win this game. Good coach. Good coach. And he also builds, yeah, Josh Allen. I also wrote kind of rooting for the bills, right? It's probably more interesting. I have new blood if the Broncos make it, but Josh agree. That's the best story left. Probably is Josh dragging the bills. Probably the AFC and then the Bears and the NFC. And I agree with you that if the Broncos are there, that's kind of frisky and fun. I wonder how the analytics like I, I feel like the average person is going to be like, I'll just take the bills and Josh Allen, but I wonder if that's what once again be a situation where a lot of the sharps are taking Denver. Well, interesting. Well, maybe Denver's better on paper. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Well, let's play the game on paper. Uh, Texas speaker with Texans are at the Patriots this week. Interesting game. So we have, honestly, because the Steelers, because Tom and step down, my Tom and step down on after the money to football lost to the Texans. We like didn't really talk about the Texans performance. Yeah. It's washed away. So it's worth going through it again. Texans want beat the Steelers gradually. And then like really suddenly, because it was seven to six, I don't think the fourth quarter. And then it was very quickly, like 30 to six. And the Texans just went fumble six, touchdown, pick six, touchdown. It just got out of hand fast. And I'm curious, Craig, were you more, more impressed by how Houston finished the game on defense? Then you were a little surprised that the Texans couldn't actually close out the Steelers for 53 minutes? Well, I, no, I would say I was, I was more impressed with their defense and it is rock solid. The Steelers could not run the ball at all. I mean, the Steelers at six points. It's not like they couldn't close the Texans offense just couldn't score and stride kept throwing interceptions. I mean, the Steelers kept having great field position. And the Texans kept stopping them over and over. So I think the six points that they allowed in the first three in the whole game was even more impressive. I mean, there was a big DK Metcalf drop. But like, otherwise, I mean, Rogers continually had fantastic field position. And they couldn't do anything with it. So no, I still feel very confident about Houston's defense. I think they're great. The, the, the wrinkle in this game is that Nico Collins, the Widers here for the Texans, unlikely to play with a concussion. And then I believe, as there have been an update on Christian Gonzalez, the top cornerback for the Patriots, I think he's also unlikely to play, right? Whenever I see something like that, I'm like, that advantage goes to the defense. Like the whole point of having Christian Gonzalez has to shut down Nico Collins. If neither are out, then like, that's an advantage to the Patriots in my opinion. Yeah, that's too simplistic. But I think it, apparently Gonzalez, uh, per Mike Reese, no longer in a red, no non-contract jersey grabs his helmet to head to practice. This was as of three hours ago. So maybe you will play it. It's going to be touching go. Uh, this is funny. I mean, the, we are now 19 weeks through the NFL season. And there are still questions about like, who are the Patriots? Like, they just beat a terrible chargers playoff team. And again, that like, it feels like they could have won by even more, and it was kind of slow for a while. And Drake made it not have a good first half had a fantastic second half. But I certainly still have questions. And I do think a defense like the Texans. And I think the streakiness of Stroud, like if you catch him on the right moment, I think this game could be close. And I think the Texans could win. You think we're going to learn a lot about these teams? I think we're going to learn a lot about these teams. This is a must win game next week. The must win game whichever teams win this week. And then are in the, they'll play again next week. Those games we're going to learn a lot about those teams. Yeah, this is a must win game. I am the, the Drake May part. He didn't play well. I think he had, you know, this butterflies. It was like, yeah, you're two quarterback playing, you know, the chargers defense of the first half. I think after, I think this is, if the Patriots win, I hate to, I hate to report. I do think that it would be about Drake May and Drake May like being incredible. Because the Texans defense is like this death star. We've talked about it a lot. And they deserve all the credit where they just, I mean, they have no coverage disguised as a diversity. Cody Alexander at match quarters had a great article about this shout out his sub stack. And he, Cody Alexander measures coverage diversity basically. How much teams mix it up? And he scales at zero to 100. The Texans are a one out of 100. They literally are one and a hundred. What they're so much like the L.O.B. It's crazy. They are like, they line up and they're like, okay, go ahead beat us. Which you have the luxury of doing when everyone on defense was better than everyone on the offense. And all, and honestly, it's funny. All it comes down to all their guys who can cover, can tackle. And when you watch the Texans, all of them can tackle. And so in all the corner, like, and that matters in the run game. And it changes everything. And so the all that, you know, will Anderson's an amazing pastor. You can stop the run. Like everyone just does everything. Well, jeal and peachy is like the best nickel in the league. Probably so exciting and so fun to watch. Yeah. My last year's amazing quarterback. So because it's everything's simpler, they play faster. That's why they get the, wow, this defense is flying to the ball award of this season because there's no complexity. It's just like see, they run and hit. And so they still have to pick how you're going to beat them though. Right. Every defense has to pick a you get beat. They pick, okay, sure. Deep shots to the outside. On early downs on first and 10, second and whatever, second and eight. If you think you can get a deep pass to the sideline and you will not get sacked or intercepted by Derek Stingler, Kamari Laster, go for it. That is what Drake May will win the MVP on is the crazy, deep passing accuracy. He's had to digs and Keishan booty down the sideline like Drake May all season is a crazy deep accuracy bill barn over to great comedy span where he kind of was saying he thinks Drake may shit win the MVP. In part, where if you look at like catches over expectation this season and receiving arts over expectation, it's like puking to cool and people and then it's like three of this top six are Patriots receivers. It's like Mac Collins and digs and booty and you're like, that's a Drake May stat that three of the top six receivers. So anyway, that is to me every, the New England and that show is they have to run, you can't go horizontal to Texan's defense too fast. You have to run vertically and throw vertically and that's doing once only shot. However, the other thing I wanted to ask you DK is I think the real chance for New England to win this game is CJ Stroud. He being New England's best player. CJ Stroud, I really think he's the Darnal of the AFC and I feel like. Yeah, that's weird. That's weird to say, but yeah. We need a new term for game manager. When I think of game manager, maybe everyone is different. I think of Alex Smith where he's not likely to be the reason that you can win the game, but he's not going to lose it for you. And I think we need a new term for like Sam Darnal or Stroud where Darnal absolutely has been the reason you've won games. You've got huge leads. You've had comeback wins. Darnal's also absolutely the reason you lose games. Stroud's like that too. And I feel like that is the real concern here is that label figures out how to get into Stroud's brain. Yeah, because I mean, if you look at just this last game as a perfect example, Stroud fumbled about five times. Five fumbles. He lost two of them. He had a couple of the biggest bozo plays I've ever seen. He did. He played really bad. It was like he was pressing. There was a couple plays where he I think he thought he had it. And so he like tried to make some miraculous play. I just didn't have it in him and he turned it over. But at the same time, I'm looking at the Texans were 10 to 15 on third down. Like they were really good when it like in those clutch situations in the in the in the moments that mattered. Obviously those turnovers were glaring and in horrific. But you know, compared to the Steelers, he went two of 14 Aaron Rodgers. You know, just could not do anything. This was literally I saw this from Nate Tice. Great stat that just kind of like tells you how good he sends defenses. 283 playoff games were a quarterback at 20 pass attempts. Aaron Rodgers game was 283rd in Dropback success rate and EPA for dropback. That was the worst game we've seen from a quarterback in the playoffs basically. All right, you know, so great. But gentle more complimentary to the Texans because I think just they were I think the Steelers was completely overmatched. But on that. But yeah, so I think what you were saying, Stroud is the X factor. I feel exactly the same way I feel about Darnell where Stroud could make some incredible plays. He's got an in him. He could make some, you know, just pinpoint down 30 yards down the field, drop it in a bucket. But he needs to start with these Bozo plays because that, you know, in a different world could have sunk the Texans in the first round. The Steelers couldn't do anything, but the Patriots can do stuff on offense. I do think that no Nico Collins is a big deal. Yeah. And if Nico Collins were in this game, I think I would have taken the Texans. Dude, Christian Kirk is like their playmaker, right? Yeah, it's Xavier Hutchinson. Christian Kirk, it's too rookie for Steelers. I think that matters a lot. So I think that's fair. So one other thing here on this game, this is important guys. So I saw the stat. On Monday night, Houston became the second team in playoff history to score multiple defensive touchdowns in a game without allowing a touchdown, joining the Bears in the 1940 NFL champion shape game versus Washington, which they won 70 to nothing. The legendary 1940 Bears. So obviously I looked up the 1940 Bears and I'm happy to report 70 to nothing. Yes, it's like the like we've talked about this game. It's a hilarious game. Yes, 70 to nothing. Uh, in addition to the Bears having a guy in the team named Solly Sherman. Okay. Uh, I was going through the names and I'm getting like, you know, a little immune to it. And then I saw one of the guys names on the 1940 Bears was named eggs man ski. Yes, eggs EGGS eggs eggs eggs eggs eggs eggs eggs. Oh, that's so good. And you know, like a homo name. It's so great. He literally just had eggs every morning and they were like, your eggs now. So they ate eggs one time Craig. And then he was eggs for the eggs once I feel like that baseball player didn't drink. So they called them sloppy. Yeah. Uh, so do me. This shit never gets old. Do me a favor DK I'm sending this guy's Wikipedia page. Do me a favor DK. I want you've never seen this before. I want you to read the first two sentences of eggs man skis Wikipedia page. Eggs man. Don't read it ahead of time. Just read it out loud for me. Eggs man. Eggs man ski. Uh, read the first two lines. Read the first two lines blind go Edgar John eggs man ski was an American professional football player who was an end for six seasons in the national football league man ski was the last college football player to play with that helmet. Oh, I love it. No helmet on his egg. Do you know how much restraint I've had to have to not share that he was the last guy. This is like the friggin old hockey players who didn't play with it. He wouldn't know how to play football with the helmet. Unfortunately, his name is Edgar, which makes eggs make a lot of sense. Eggs man ski though. Eggs man ski was out there running around that helmet. The last one to do it. How does that get his pretty handsome? How wasn't he a part of an entire team that was the last one to do it? It couldn't be just him. I don't know. Was he refusing everybody else? He's got grandfathered in. Yeah. He's like, guys, it's still have neck rolls, you know, even though it looked old. It's like he just avoided the helmet. Everybody else had one. This used to be a sport. Game is not the same as it was. How old did eggs man ski make it? I think he died at the age of 89. 89. He fucking lived his all in 89 years. He left the 89 years old. Has there ever been a better case for no helmets in the NFL than eggs man ski dying in 89 years old? Yeah. You know, I have seen radical arguments about like football and concussions. People would move to the problem. 100%. They would hit less hard because you don't fucking hit their heads when you put a weapon on your head essentially with the help. Yeah. Naturally, our human instinct is to protect the head. So if you play without a helmet theoretically, you would never lead with your head. He was also in World War II, of course, which is a given. He lived to 89. He died in LA in 2002. Eggs. Eggs. Wow. What an absolute legend. He was in 1932. Olympian bronze medalist. Oh wait, no, he's married to a 1932 bronze medalist. Jane Fonts. Jane speaking of which. Wow. Pivoting here to college football. So Indiana is playing Miami on Monday. You know, we have a show between now and then we don't have to get too in depth into the game. But I want to shout out Roger Sherman, former ringer colleague who texted me. You'll never guess who the first head coach of the University of Miami's football team was. Who was it? Milk plum. Better. Yes. Cloist box. Not as good. Buznutter. Close. Jug jug. Cubbuck. Cubbuck was the first bunch of the University of Miami. What? Cubbuck was the first coach Miami's ever had. Have we ever showed each other a picture of Cubbuck, by the way? He looks. There were only 27 people back then, dude. I tell you, they didn't have enough people. Cubbuck looks like a funny little guy. Cubbuck. He looks like he didn't have an helmet playing football. Yeah. Man. Cubbuck. We don't have to get to. Yeah, I know. We don't have to get too deep in any of Miami. I mean, Fernando Mendoza used to walk to the Miami campus. He was like less than a mile away growing up. And he's like hundreds of family in Miami areas. So that'll be a big storyline. And obviously just kind of kind of love when a team actually makes the home stadium. The fact that Miami's playing in Miami. It's unfair, but I kind of love it. The thing I wanted to ask you guys about briefly is Dante Moore went back, the quarterback at Oregon went back to Oregon. Yeah. Which to me is basically spurning the jets to go back to Oregon. Deakin curious, we think it's Dylan Raolo who transferred to Oregon off a broken leg. He's going to sit behind Dante Moore for a year as, you know, Dylan, you know, Dante Moore did behind Dylan Gabriel. I'm just curious. Just call Spade Spade. Draft. A lot less interesting now. That's like Fernando Mendoza. And then basically like one first round quarterback. Unless you count Tyson's in which some people may. Some people might not Craig a lot of people are giving him to the Steelers and mock drafts. It's going to be a very popular pairing. But yeah, I mean, it definitely makes things a little less interesting. This is going to be I mean, right now off the cuff, it's probably not not a great class. But, you know, we'll get into it and everything. But we'll talk about it more next Wednesday and just going forward on the, we're going to cover the draft all season. Like I don't want Tyson. I would like the record to share that I don't want Ty Simpson. But do you want to record a social clip in case he's great? We've been posted. Ty Simpson just has it. He's got the it factor. I know I never doubted Ty Simpson. I don't care that he's only played 15 games and he's 23. Can't be any. He's nothing like Kenny Picket. Whatsoever on that on that note, we don't have to we'll talk more draft on Wednesday. But I just the question to keep wondering about this. Don't you more think DK? What does it say about the NFL draft? Maybe this year's draft or the draft in general that the narrative is basically, hey, don't take more junior. If you come out, you'll definitely be the second pick in the draft of the Jets or at worst like the third pick to the Cardinals. And you'll get 40 to 50 million dollars guaranteed. And yet everyone who studies the draft and like advises people, the NFL draft, everyone's like, hey, Dante, you're not ready. You should go back to school because you're not even close to ready. And this guy who everyone's like, hey, you need more reps. Would 100% be the second pick in the draft? Desperations is stinky cologne. I think when you're saying this, all I think he made the right choice. I think if you look at the list of quarterbacks who have one years, he was like one year and change starter in terms of the number of games that he started is like basically one and a half years. And if you look at the guys throughout history, I have that few starts in college. It's a lot of misses in the NFL. I think he just looked at that was like, I need more experience. We talk about this ad nauseam. It's just the rep. He needs the reps. He needs experience before he gets to NFL, especially to the fricking jets of all team of all teams. So I think you made the right choice for the long term. Obviously, people could say like he's going to make a lot more money if he comes out now. If you wait another year, then there's a lot more variables you could get hurt. You could have a better quarterback class. There's a bunch of guys that people are excited about next year, which is what we say every year. But it is true with archmaning and Lenore Sellers, some other guys. It's going to be a deeper class potentially at a quarterbacks, so that could like have him fall. But at the end of the day, if he wants to have a successful career in the NFL, the odds are he's going to be better off playing more in college and getting more starts and getting more experience. And so when he gets to the NFL, he can hit the ground running rather than try and learn all that shit on a terrible jets team. Yeah, I think this is less like he didn't want to play for the jets and more. He just he wanted more experience probably. I mean, spoiler alert, the jets are going to suck again next year and he'll probably he could still be on the jets. Yeah. So it's like, but yeah, I have a steer point though, it is funny that like the the guaranteed second overall pick in the NFL draft is like, I'm not ready to go to the NFL. And yet the NFL is like, please, you'll be the second pick in the draft. It's a very mature decision by him. Yeah, it's very mature. All that money was going to say. Yeah, he'll get whatever feel night. How will this feel night? Like 80s? Yeah. Yeah. I think feel night to care of him. Okay, ringer 107. Today's ringer 107 is brought to you by Fandall. I think I was convinced during the Bill's Broncos thing to go bills. And you know what? It's so funny. You can talk about whatever you want. When the game comes on, you're like, I want the Josh Allen team. Like it's so right. I agree. It's it's so fun rooting for him. It's like having like rooting like picking him in ringer 107 is like a 10% of what it feels like to have him in fantasy. It's just nice to have him on your team. Yeah, because there's like, it's it's again, it's the bell curve meme. We were like, I should you should bet on Josh Allen. And then the wise guy at the end is like, yeah, you should probably take it. Also, especially because the lines that we were sent, the bills are underdogs by a point of half. Like, I'm happy. I'm thrilled to get that. Let's just do it. I thought about doing the Broncos and then if we lose, we get the bills to go around, but now let's take the bills. Let's do Seattle minus seven Seattle salt blind solidarity. I don't want any mixed emotions at the Seahawks win. By the way, Darnold says he's going to play. Okay. He said he felt something a little something in his oblique today during practice, but he's going to play. Decay, do you want to take the Niners as a reverse jinx and emotional hedge? No, don't be a wuss. Okay, but when the Seahawks lose to the Niners, are we going to be upset that we did? Yeah, we will be. Yeah, I'm going to be upset. All right. I'm going to be upset with our good pals team loses will be upset. But shouldn't we like maybe be like, Hey, at least we would have another. How many times do we have to say no? All right. There you go. Okay. All right. I want to skip Texans, Pat's bears Rams. I want to take the bears who getting three and a half. The three and a half is lovely. I don't want to root against the bears. The bears are too cool. Obviously, the Rams are awesome team. I love the Rams. It's too fun of a story. I don't want to be rooting against Chicago. Chicago is like clearly the best story this season. It's not even close to me. I picked the Rams, but I'm okay with taking the bears. The Rams are going to win the game. I just, maybe this is stupid, but like I don't know. I do not feel confident at the rear. I don't feel confident either way, but I don't think it is a lock at all that the Rams are going to win this game. I just, I just look, I'd rather the Rams blow the bears out and we feel stupid for taking the bears. Then rooting against the bears the entire time. And as they win again, and they're like the coolest story and we're like just rooting against them for bringing all of seven. It's going to be, it's going to be 24 to seven and a half. And then we're going to be like, we're fucking idiots. And then we've got to double down. If they're losing the middle of the game, we have to double down and put more money on them in the middle. Let me ask you a question. If you hurt your finger bad enough to wear the next 12 throws, you, you throw, you go two for 12 on. It still hurts, I bet. Right now. Like, is that what happened in the game? Yeah, you went two to 12. That's through the day. Was the one immediately after? Well, there are things you can do in the moment, perhaps, but I'm like, I don't know, a sprained index finger on his throwing hand probably still hurts, even if it's fine, sprains do not heal in six days. And I'm kind of just like, the pointer finger of the quarterbacks finger hurts. That probably matters. He hurts. Even if it just hurts. It's cold matters. It's cold. So I think the most, I mean, like 19 degrees. I was like, finger hurts to put his hand out. My fingers hurt. It's a landscape. I don't know. I'm just thinking about that. Like, oh, the quarterbacks pointer finger hurts. All right. Craig, what are you thinking for Texans Patriots? I don't know. I was, I actually, my gut was Texans plus three. We talked about it a little bit. And now I think I could be swayed. I think the no-nico Collins thing matters. Vrable, I trust. I don't know. I was originally Texans plus three. Now I think I'm, I'm open. Where are you guys? I wrote down Patriots the first time. And I'm kind of almost the opposite of you, Craig, where I'm just like picturing the Texans defense, just smothering everything the Patriots try to do with like, K-Shot. We're like worried about K-Shot booty. We're like, we're worried about how old is Stefan Day's now. It's like the entire argument is just Drake May is totally legit. Mike Vrable and Josh McDonald's are incredible coaches, because frankly, I don't see, or you don't believe in Stroud. The only way I see them moving, the only way they see the Patriots moving the ball is they're going to throw a touchdown till they're running back somehow. That's how they're going to score. The argument is the Texans were up seven to six versus a sealer because Stroud turned over three times. And it's Mike Vrable versus CJ Stroud. That is the argument to be for New England. Let me see if we, is there an alt line we can mess with? If we did like, the Texans getting seven and a half. And would you guys want the under? I don't like doing that. We haven't done that all year. I originally wrote down the Patriots, so I'll stick with that. What do you think, Craig? Where are you at? You're with you're on Patriots? I got every one of my picks right last week, guys. It just straight up. Hi, if it's where are you at? I'm desperately trying to find an alternate total page unfandable to. We've been straight shooting it all season. I don't want to do it now. No. All right. We went three and two, flipping it last week. Wait, where's your lean, hyphids? And you're gut. Your life is on the line. I like that framing life is on the line, because what matters? And you come back to what matters? And it's, it's, you're probably taking the Patriots in your life. The top tier is coaching quarterbacks of defenses. And I, you know what? Stroud, I have my issues with, but the truth is Drake may also has Carson Wentz moments in him. And he added the first half first, the chargers. There's a lot of fumbling. This is the hardest one, for sure. My brain says Houston. Okay. My gut says Patriots. And I think we go with the gut. Now, do we want to be ridden for the Patriots though? Do we want to be staring at our televisions, being like, go Drake May defeat the Texas defense? Well, we want to be. Well, yes, because then if, if they lose and we lose and Drake May sucks, then we can say he doesn't deserve the MVP. Yeah, yeah. Unless they win by one, and we, and they win, that would suck. That would suck. That would suck. That's a good one. Like a game winning drive by Drake May to win by two. That would suck. That would suck. Okay. Screw it. All right. Today's ringer one of seven was brought to you by Faddle Odd subject to change. Can you guys start calling me eggs eggs world back? Yeah, crags. It sounds like a breakfast. Eggs. Yeah. Wow. That is correct. Just to see your. My friends jokingly call me eggs sometimes. I shouldn't. Egg. Why didn't you bring this up before? What the hell crag? Eggs. We had that whole egg thing and you didn't bring up that eggs. Like a version of eggs Benedict. Yeah, eggs. Horal back. I'll get the eggs. Horal back. Instead of holidays. It's what? Salsa. I don't know. I'm just. I'm a little chilaquilay situation. Speaking of which though, we have to talk about. So we were talking about Taco Bell sins as a business idea that legally, we're not allowed to take from us. You're not allowed to take or do you have zins, but for like that. When Netflix will sue you if you take it the idea, you don't bring it in the big lawyers. Yeah. Yeah. The idea was that like zins, we invent a zin, but for tasty food. So when you're craving fast food, you just pop a zin and it tastes like Taco Bell. It's like you put in a McDonald's fries to zin and you eat broccoli, but you guys get the pouch and you can't take that idea. So Jared E. Milden, Jay Bone, that we got wonkyed. Yeah. Yeah. Will Wankham. He said that so this is from the Charlie and the chocolate factory film. fandom.com wiki, which is what the internet's great. And will Charlie and the chocolate factory will we want kind of three course dinner chewing gum. That was a piece of gum. Will you want invented that feeds a person like the really eating dinner made of soup as an appetizer roast beef for dinner, favorite side, and then blueberry pie and ice cream for dessert. And vice beef violent, turned into a blueberry. She turned it. Yeah. Unfortunately. Well, that's a faulty product. ours would never do that. No. No. But yeah, Wankham. Buy up by our products. But ours is not gum. No, ours is put it in your lip. Yeah, ours gets into your bloodstream via little shards of glass. Our lawyers very clearly ours is not gum. It's a gordita's in. How dare you suggest a wait, like gum. I'm looking this up here. This is the concept inspired real life food scientist to explore multi flavor sequential release gums using technology. Yes, he can't be gum. No, it's not gums in gum. Not going to work. You're not chewing on that shit. No, you don't aren't chewing it. Yeah, I don't you guys like gum. You gum people. I love gum guy. You love gum. Do you get a huge on gum? Really? Yeah. You chew gum daily? No, but I like gum. What's your favorite gum brand? I don't care. Just say free ass orbit orbit. And do you find that what is the most important? Is it long lasting flavor? Or is it the integrity of the gum? It's the integrity of the gum. If it starts to crumble, that's disgusting. I actually have like I have drums where I'm like my that like the gum is starting to like turn into like paste. Yeah. For some reason, I have that dream. I don't know what to tell you. Have you guys seen those videos on like TikTok and Instagram of people who basically make natural at home gum? Yeah. And I've always wanted to try one of those, but I'm not going to spend like $35 on a stick of gum. It's like super high. $35 on a stick of gum. It's not it's like more expensive, obviously, because it's like all natural ingredients handmade, whatever. But I've always been curious about that. And it's like good for your teeth and good for your gut. But yeah, I'm not a gum guy. Yeah. Emails that bring your fantasy football gmail.com about gum. If I go out without gum, it's like going out naked. Really? Yeah. I hate to me. I don't. I hate the idea of having like beer breath. Well, you were the one who told me I remember I breathed the worst. Well, I remember you were the one who like if someone offers you gum, never turn it down. But maybe that's just because you love gum. No, it's probably because you have bad breath. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless they're just being polite and they want to offer when they pull out a stick of gum. And much rather than a mint. I feel like I do two minutes into chewing gum. I'm sick of it. I hunt it. Craig, that's exactly where I'm at. Because I'm not a gum guy. So dick it gives me gum whenever I want to wear our work trips. And I genuinely don't know if it's because my breath sucks or he is nice. Like he's being a nice guy. So I put in the gum. I'm like five minutes late. I'm like, what the fuck do I do with this gum? I got to reach into my mouth and put it in a piece of paper in front of all these people. I'm like, I don't want to deal with this thing. What do I do with it? What's the socially acceptable thing? I want a mint. Give me a mint. I think a mint is fine. Craig, but what is there's no good mint carrying systems? Like are you going to put a fucking tin of altoids in your pocket and carry it around the fuck are we doing here? Well, the real move is a Listerine strip. Those are small. See that final thing. I'm okay with that. But those will intense though. But yeah, those are so potent. Like you cannot eat anything within an hour of having that because it'll just taste like it's burning your mouth. Is that the one where it's like Molly you put it right in your tongue? Yeah, like a tab of acid. Yeah. Yeah, it's like acid. Yeah. Leave it there. If you can if you can come up with a good like Altoy delivery system, I'd be fine with that. I mean, so I want to I don't want to pack it a loose one. Is this another's it? You just want a small container to hold mints. Yeah. I feel like it's doable. Can we make silent mints? We have to check that out. I would carry them. He's right. If you didn't sound like you're eating it, walking around with them, I'd have them. You have like a little pouch, like a little purse of of mints and you carried around. But then if you take it out of that, people think you're taking drugs. Yeah. I was going to say, if you have like one of those little cocaine bags with like three white you're like hills and they're like hanging it, you know, like people think you're doing drugs. This is my problem with lactate. So lactate, Jackie, because I am lactose intolerant. And so Jackie got me this funny little thing and it's like a milk, a little dare. It's like a keychain. And it's just a little like dairy container, like a milk carton on my keychain. And I could put lactates in it. She's like, here, now you don't have to look at an idiot ripping open all these papers at the table and you can just open it. But the problem is you're eating dinner with ice. There's just like dozens of just rappers at our table. And sometimes if he's seen a real like if he's already eaten a slice of cheese pizza and he needs a lactate, sometimes he'll crush it up into a powder and snort it. Yes. Yeah. With his credit card. Get into the bloodstream quicker. He carries a like a little mirror around so he can snort the lactate. Well, not no. All right. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. Everyone for listening, email us at ring of fantasy football gmail.com about gum. I guess it should be more specific. But I don't really have anything. Tell us if you can fix gum. If anyone can help us make a good mint delivery system, which makes silent. They make the mint style a peasant dispenser. I was thinking about that as back. Those are kind of big. They're kind of clunky. Imagine pulling one out of your pocket. Also, then you look like a nine-year-old. Yeah. He's peasant. Although that might be cool. I don't know. Maybe be pretty cool. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Jackson Brown. Jackson Brown running on empty banger. Rosie Banger. Have you heard that one, Craig? It's about masturbating. Go check it out. I haven't. You pervert, but you'll have to tell me about it, I guess. So Rosie, hold on. I got pulled to lyrics. This is actually hilarious. He's talking about how he's like third or fourth in the band in terms of sexiness and all his bandmates always take home the girl. And so he gets to go hang out with Rosie, who is his Rosie palms. Oh, wow. But Rosie, you're all right. You wear by ring. When you hold me tight, Rosie, that's my thing. When you turn out the light, I got to hand it to me. It looks like it's me and you again tonight, Rosie. Wow. Fucking great song. I love that he was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to write a song about this. I'm fucking jacking off every night. We're going to sing this song. You know, it's funny. There's another song with Rosie in it by Neil Diamond Crackling, Rosie. And that song is about how much he loves rosé wine. Really? Yeah. All right. Rosie, yo, right. Yeah, sing it. Sing it by ring. I'm getting up. I'm fucking up the melody here, but it's it's great. Oh, thank you, Rosie Palm. And thank you, Rosie. Wine. Sometimes the two, the two of those go hand in hand. Just drinking rosé, sobbing. Are those happy tissues? Are sad tissues? All right. Goodbye, everyone. 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