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GF Caught Tiktok Looksmaxxer BF Buying CP, Exposed Him, But Fans Still Support Him

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GF Caught Tiktok Looksmaxxer BF Buying CP, Exposed Him, But Fans Still Support Him

This podcast episode concludes a deep dive into the looksmaxing community, first finishing the lore of influencer Clivicular, who is known for extreme self-modification practices. He openly admits to using meth, steroids, and other dangerous substances to achieve his aesthetic goals, and he frequently degrades women, promotes misogynistic views, and engages in reckless stunts, such as running over a stalker with his car. The narrative then pivots to Mason Hall, a minor looksmaxer, whose ex-girlfriend discovered CSAM on his phone and reported it to police. Predator hunter Jideon, alongside Alex from Predator Poachers, orchestrates a confrontation with Hall, initially pretending to defend him online to gain his trust. In a recorded visit, Hall admits to possessing and viewing CSAM, including material depicting very young children, though he downplays his culpability with excuses. He was arrested on 15 counts of possession, but his bond was revoked after he violated internet restrictions. The episode highlights the troubling support Hall still receives from some fans, who downplay his crimes, and criticizes the broader online culture that can enable such behavior. The hosts ultimately credit Jideon's video for countering the narrative that Hall was framed, emphasizing the importance of protecting children over defending influencers.

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If you guys haven't listened to the first half of this audio podcast, please do we went down the foundational ideology of what looks maxing is, as well as the different pills, red pill, blue pill, purple pill, black pill, and I feel like we're overdosing on looks maxing, but we're almost done. So we're going to finish the lore of Clivicular before we dive into everything that has transpired with Mason Hall and how he was arrested for copious charges of possessing CSAM. So with that, let's get started. I don't know if Clivicular popularized bone smashing, but he apparently partook in it. So he shows himself a lot using trophies and hammers, just hitting his face, which, you know, there's also pictures that he shows where his entire face is so swollen, he can barely open his eyes and he says that he would show up to work like that. Every single time, like it just his whole face looks like he's wearing rare beauty blush on the top of his cheekbones because he's been hammering it so hard. It's not even giving hunter eyes, it's giving pink eye. He said that he used to go into work every day looking like that because he would bone smash so hard. He's done an interview where he talks about everything that he takes on a daily basis and I don't know how true any of this is or if he's doing it for shock value, but equally problematic, right? He says, I'm taking testosterone every single day. I take manoxidol for my hair. I take due tasteride for my hair. I take 7.5 milligrams of acutane a day. I use crystal meth as his stimulant to lean max. It's much more mild than adorol actually and I'm pretty much using meth for hollow cheeks. Wait, he's just openly admitting that what's going on? Yeah, yeah. What is going on? He says models will do coke to get their appetite to go away, but meth just lasts a lot longer. He says, for three days, I spammed a combination of adorol and methamphetamine for appetite suppression. I literally went on a three day fast and stayed awake the entire time. I lost five pounds. He's asked, did it feel good? And he says, of course, it's fucking meth. He's also taken like anabolic steroids, which is not even approved for human usage at this point. It's just for animals. It's called like treadmill or something. Yeah. And he talks about it. He also talks about how he takes pregab and backlifin pills, which it's supposed to mimic the feeling of being drunk, but you cannot take them long term because you probably potentially are going to get Parkinson's, especially if you don't need these drugs, which he does not need them. Yeah. And in another clip to, I don't know how many viewers that take his words like the gospel, he says, you should be on your computer for hours, researching, creating yourself a regimen. I mean, how can I ascend? What can I do? Not worried about what kind of side effects could I get from this? What could go wrong? How about what could go right? Side note, ascend is just another masculine repackaging for the concept of glowing up. And clavicular is nothing, if not committed to his ascension. He says for him, he was ordering illegal testosterone. He would get it into a pill box. And he says, I'm just someone who is willing to do whatever needs to be done. So I would just reorder it to a pill box instead. A lot of people will come after my parents for the things that I did, but realistically, no one was stopping me. I was committed to my goal. He even gets kicked out of college for roried maxing. So he would brag about how he's roried maxing on these forums. And someone called his college. They rated his dorm room, found a bunch of steroids. They kicked him out. Oh, that's literally how he got kicked out of school. And then started his influencer career. And why not just work out and not use steroids? He says natty gains are slow and gay. Natty means natural in the world of, I don't know what world that is. Okay, but he says, I am the pioneer of mainstream plastic surgery for men's aesthetics. He thinks the future is, quote, every motherfucker will have some sort of titanium implant in their face. Rhino plastics are being handed out like it's fucking food stamps. He says, you can actually get college loans and use it for surgery. So this is a method. So I've been telling people you can literally do that. So just misappropriating the funds. It's really not going to get you in that much trouble and your mug. So you'll be able to sort of get out of it. This is crazy. And for someone who spends so much time and energy into mugging, he just like continuously goes viral for getting outmogged by random people. He was interviewed by 60 minutes where he's just mongued by the reporter. He goes to meet an ASU frat leader, which that was like a fake narrative. Apparently he's not a frat leader. Apparently he is a bodybuilder, but he gets brutally fray mongued like he does get mongued. And then later the judge presiding over one of his cases because he was arrested a few times. I'm going to get into that. But the judge mugs the shit out of him. Holy cow. Okay. Like mugs him really hard. And he's just going around getting mongued. So how does he take that when he gets outmogged? He's actually like the one thing about Clivicular I will say is he's like very open to being embarrassed. Oh, he's just like I got outmogged. Okay. Does he does that motivate him to smash his face more? Is that what happened? Yeah. Okay. But he like I guess that's the part where maybe he gets a lot of attention and fame because he's not like weird about it because you would imagine a lot of guys would be like I didn't get mongued, but he's just like yeah, why the fuck did I get mongued? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's good. Yeah. So his nose proportion is just 2% better than mine. Yeah, probably pulling up Adobe Photoshop. The looks Maxgers love Adobe Photoshop. They love to get the little measuring tool and then do the facial thirds. And the way they do it, like I'm watching their screen recordings. Uh-huh. It's so smooth. I'm like wow. Oh my god. Are you looking for a job? Yeah. Wow. So they are serious about this. This is not not a bit. No. Wow. This is a lifestyle. Interesting. Yeah. But he does sort of get a redemption arc even though I don't know. Okay. He's also the one that said that we need to go back to the patriarchy times as if we somehow escaped it. As if women are just like incapable of holding themselves to any moral code. That's what he said. He yeah, yeah, he thinks we need to go back to a patriarchy and that Nick Fuentes should be president. He would vote for Nick Fuentes or Gavin Newsom if it's up between Gavin Newsom and JD Vance. But he goes viral because this is basically the clavicle era. Woe Vicky and clavicular have a live stream collab. And Woe Vicky is an interesting person. I have not dived into the lore of Woe Vicky. So please catch me if I'm wrong. And excuse me if I have any misconceptions. But what I know about Woe Vicky and Bad Baby are those two individuals seem like they grew up on the internet and have probably been through so much that people almost have like a soft spot for both of them. Right. And Woe Vicky, she, I don't know if she's been on, I don't know what's happened. But anyway, she's in a collaboration with him and she asks him if he has autism. And this is something that he talks about very openly where he feels like even looks maxing is a hyper fixation of his autism. He talks about how growing up it was difficult for him. And it seems like he could feel a little sensitive to about it. But Woe Vicky is just like, Oh, I don't even mean to be funny. Like I love people with autism. They normally attract, they attract to me. Like they attract like my little brothers and sisters all have autism. And so he actually seems like he's into it and he's smiling a lot. She also points out that he must be real rich because his Rolex has diamonds in it and she's never seen a Rolex with diamonds in it. She asks if he knows anything about cortisol being recessed. She's like cortisol at your stress levels and then recessed. I think she's talking about like the chin going in. But he points out that she's just combining a bunch of random words that the looks came out as a community app. And everyone just started shipping them because he actually seems to be really nice to her. Like he's, this is how little he's nice to girls. And he seems like most of his live streams are him going to clubs in Miami and either flirting with girls and getting rejected or being mean to girls. I see. And he's actually quite nice to her at least in the viral clips. And he asks her, well, you think we'd have good kids together. And she's like, yeah, I think they'd be cute. And he said probably from your side mostly. And she's like, no, you look nice too. And he's like, you look better. I think you got me a little bit. So they're flirting a lot. And he even says, this is a viral clip where he says, god damn Vicki, I wish I met you five years ago. So it almost made people feel like, oh, like then he wouldn't have gone down this very self-destructive looks, maxing spy roll. And they would have ridden off into the sunset together. Yeah. At some point she asks to pray for him because she's very religious now. And she asks him, is there anything Pacific? And he's very confused. She's like in the Pacific. And she responds, yeah, like you want me to pray for you? And he's like, I don't really know any animals in the past. He's trying to be funny. Yeah. No, I think he's for real. Oh, okay. So it's just like the mixture of like, yeah, I got it. I get the neurodivergent and like they also neurodivergent, but like very different types of neurodivergent combining together. And it was just very cute. They also set up a mini date because the initial stream went so well. And it did seem like they had some bit of history or chemistry. It just was nice. People noticed that Vicki was the only girl that he was actively laughing around. He seemed very genuine. Like there are parts where Vicki's on her phone during the date. And he's like, it's not nice to be on your phone during the day. And she's like, oh, sorry. And then he asked her if there are times where she's without her phone, she responds. Sometimes she actively lets her phone die. And there was a time she didn't have her phone for two days because it wasn't charged. And he's like, what did you do during those two days? And she mentions quite cutely used other people's phones. So it's just like really cute, right? However, I do think it was for cloud. So the very initial stream, this part did not go viral, but he actually kicked Vicki out of his stream, the very first stream. Because she was using some sort of product and he was accusing her of doing an undisclosed ad on his live stream. And she swore it was not an ad. And then he wanted her to see wear her hand on the Bible and she said she didn't want to because that made her uncomfortable religiously speaking and so he kicked her out of the livestream, like out of the house. But then those clips, the flirting clips from the initial livestream started going viral and people started shipping them, so then he asked her to come back to do like a little date livestream. So I don't know about Woviki's intentions. She seems pretty genuine but I think Clivicular was going where the clout was going. Ah, I see, I see, okay. Yeah. But also, what do you expect? This is a random blip of rebranding and virality that he had and this, the Woviki clips actually pushed him to people like me, just people who didn't really know him. And I was like, oh, I've heard about him, I don't know any of the stuff that he said. I just know Lux Maxing is a weird concept but it was so cute. It almost wants you to, you want to support them. But then you look into it. And he's also said these types of things during a livestream. Chat, I'm not going to lie, my mom literally got fat after she had me. He also talks about girls like this. You think I want to know about your fucking hobbies? Bitch, I want to get in your fucking pants, goddamn it, I want to fuck you and I want to convince you that I'm not trying to fuck you, which is why I'm having the conversation. So how about you do me the courtesy of telling me where at least went wrong, okay, just so I can know. He will just tell girls that they're head there full of come. Your fucking school is full of come instead of brain. Yeah, he also likes to say that the best things to come out of self-driving cars like Waymo is my favorite usage of self-driving ubers is to send stupid hose off the fucking end of the Santa Monica Pier and a self-driving car. He says in another video, "Unless you're a Chad, you will never experience what it's like to have a girl look at you and be truly in love. I see so many people, they're making all this money, they got all these cars, but they've got a face that only a mother could love. I'm not telling you not to money Max, but I'm telling you that until you maximize the looks along with it, you will never know what it's like and that's a horrible reality of face. It's truly sad and most people won't get it, they'll cope their way around it. Oh, look at all these girls, but no girl will ever be able to look at them and truly be in love." He's also cried on stream because he ordered a burger and there was cheese on there and he's not cheese-maxing. One of his team members was interviewed by GQ and they state, "He just does butter bagel, no cream cheese. Do not hand him a fucking burger with cheese on it. He will fucking throw that shit at you." He goes on to websites like, "You know those random chat websites where it links you with another person on a video call, a random stranger like Omega or whatever, and he just tells people how ugly they are. In one clip, he says a girl is gross for being overweight, but also because she spoke in quote, "Ebonics." He also says that there's another guy who outmogs him, but quote, "but he's black." He's also said the unword before repeatedly, I think, on stream. He's also just like promoting bottom of the barrel care when it comes to sexual health. He says, "Dude, it's been burning to piss." It only means one thing. Usually it goes away on its own after a while, but I don't know. I'm trying to think of who even could have given it to me, you know, chat, put predictions in the chat on who gave me this fucking fired-up peen, and he says that he's not going to get an STD test because he can't live stream it. So what's the point? In another stream, he takes a woman back into his room. So his friend, it's him and his friend and two women show up. They're live streaming in the living room of Clivicular's house, or at least it looks like it. Clivicular takes one of the girls into his bedroom. After they do whatever they do in the bedroom, which I would imagine that they're both, you know, consenting adults at this point, there's nothing wrong with it. However, it's wrong that afterwards, she's off camera in the live stream room. He's sitting in front of his little computer chair, live streaming, and he's shaming her in front of his chat, calling her a calm dumpster for giving up her butt, those are his words, in like five minutes of meeting him. Then he asks her to sit in frame on camera so he can probably humiliate her more. And she refuses. And he says, listen up, oh, you got to learn how to listen. I told you to sit next to me, woman not listening makes me want to fucking kill myself. Just sit in the fucking chair and stop being a bitch. If you don't sit there, you can get out. Then he tells her that she's basically an escort for how quickly they had intimate relations, which like Sam could be said about you, but whatever. And he tells her, I liked it. I liked it. We're a fun time. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. She rejects. And the chat is donating money so that they can have their comment read out audibly. And like, tell me what's the difference between this and themselves. And they have the audible comment read. She's regretting being a little hoe. Now she has to do the walk of shame out of the room. She rejects of wanting to have anything to do with clav anymore after this. And she says it just wasn't that good. To which he bluntly responds, yeah, I know, I'm on pre-gab so I can't get hard. It's like, not only is it very misogynistic and inappropriate, I will say there's like a huge layer of just depression around it, like just watching it. It's like so, wow, you did all of that so you could sleep with women and then why are you being so mean? And then you look so miserable throughout the whole process. And then you're pushing it onto your live chat audience to do the same thing. Like what a meaningless life. He also says that every woman is pretty much a hoe. He says, I'm telling you, once a girl is not a virgin, her value is nothing. One body is a hoe. He also says things like, I don't really like a woman who tries to be super educated either and try to have these intelligent conversations because a lot of the times you could, and this is talked about by Socrates a lot, a woman could be very well educated, but that doesn't make them a good thinker. So they just might have a lot of facts in their brain maybe from books they've read, but they don't necessarily know how to interpret them properly. They won't make the right conclusions, so I just don't want a wife who's wanting to argue about politics like all the time. He also ran someone over with his car. Okay, it wasn't just a random pedestrian. I will say that it is a guy that is known to be kind of a professional streamer follower. Some people call him a stalker. I don't know if I should call him that, but he shows up in a lot of live streams where he just like harasses bothers, bothers, streamers during their life. And he finds them somehow or maybe by coincidence runs into them in public spaces, yeah. But he did hop onto the hood of Clivicular's cyber truck and was like laying there like a grumbling like foaming at the mouth. And Clivicular just started driving in, ran over him. And Clivicular is also live streaming and he asks the girl holding the phone in the passenger seat. Is he dead? And then he says, hopefully. And then right after that, he posted an AI-generated picture on X of him running the guy over and he captions that play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I will say, like maybe the guy is not the most sympathetic victim he's alive. He did not die, but ultimately the guy decides not to press charges, which means Clivicular is free to say whatever he wants about it. This later at a club, people are like, some girl is like, why are you so famous? I don't know. Who are you? And he says, it's because I ran a guy over with my car. Then there was another charge, well, there was another incident that resulted in a charge. He was collabbing with another live streamer, Jenny, Jenny Popat, Popatch. I think she is also, I don't know. I did some light digging and there are some, I don't know if they're controversial but like controversies with her apparently, I don't know, but she's live streaming with Clav. Clav has a girlfriend and apparently, yeah, I don't know if they're still together, but Jenny has come out to say that she felt like she was set up because Clav would like flirt with her and she thought it was for the bit. So she would kind of flirt back because you know, they're all like content creators or whatever. And then eventually she goes to the house where Clav's girlfriend is and Clav is holding Jenny's arms back while the girlfriend is just like beating on Jenny, and there's the live stream clip of it. Yeah. Like actually beating? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is going on? And then he shot an alligator in a marsh in the Florida Everglades. He shot at a drone. There are also new allegations against him from his ex girlfriend who stated that she accuses him of assaying her when she was 16 and this clip has circulated online, not of the essay, but the next allegation that she has, which is he injected her face with aquelix, the fat dissolver on camera. He was 19. She was 17 and he was not licensed to perform any such injection, which by the way, that injection clip was so dangerous to even watch because she looks so nervous. And to me, it feels like she's peer pressured into this. And then afterwards, she's like, I think you went through my cheek and you can see her kind of move her tongue inside her mouth. And she's like, I think the needle went through my cheek, right, because that could cause her to do it. Like you never know what you're doing. And then she even worriedly asks him, like, am I going to get like facial paralysis? And he's like, no. Also the whole time the live chat is talking about how she's a come bucket, she's a minor. And also he's getting donations from users that go by Jeff Epstein. So she's suing Clivicular in a civil lawsuit, which his attorney has come forward to say that none of this is true and that Clivicular is going to vigorously defend himself. But what does that have to do with anything else that's about to go down? Do you guys know Jidian? Okay. So Jidian is part of, I don't even know how to categorize, like there's a lot of categories of YouTubers where they all do different things as their form of content. It's hard to say that Jidian fits into like the predator hunter category. He does, but he also like does other content. I think he started off as like a prank. YouTuber. Here's the thing about Gideon. I know that as of recently, there has been some controversies of he was friendly with another YouTuber who maybe he did not align, I think, in political values with, I think there was like a whole thing there. I didn't do a deep dive into it. And then I do believe that he was arrested briefly where, I mean, it was not really like a substantial charge. There were live streaming trying to go into a McDonald's. The cops were called, it was a whole thing, okay? It was the footage of the bodycam of the arrest. Gideon was acting like an influencer would, when they get arrested trying to film content. It was, you know, the generic variation of like, do you know who I am? Do you know how much money I make? No. Yeah, that kind of situation. So that was just like a really bad look, but I think other than that, it seems from the very light research that I've done. Gideon is someone that everyone thinks is like a relatively, like, hopefully net positive in the world. Like he is putting people behind bars. He doesn't go as far as some other predator hunters. And he just has like a very unique way of doing it. Like I think if you've seen any viral clips of him, there's cops arresting predators, petafiles, and he's just like selfie recording himself. And he's just like, hey guys. So this one's going to jail. Am I right? Very that vibe. And it's just kind of jarring to see the juxtaposition of like his very casual ness with the circumstances, but also like, it's hard to hate on a guy who helps put people behind bars. Right. Anyway, he decides that he's going to, I believe the ex girlfriend, I believe Mason holes ex girlfriend live reaches out to him. And she's explaining like, I was dating this guy for eight months. His name is Mason hole. And he is a looks Maxer. He does have a tiktok following of like a couple hundred thousand followers that's growing now. Now that he's been arrested, which is crazy, but he's nowhere near clavicular. He's like a small, small looks Maxer, probably like 200,000 on tiktok. And she's like, I was going through his phone and I found C Sam. I thought he was cheating on me. I found C Sam. I went to the police. They're going to investigate it. And I've given them like she recorded it on her phone. So she's like scrolling through the telegare messages gave that all to the police immediately after leaving, which like huge kudos to her because there was no like, I'm going to confront him. And like, not that some people were worried because sometimes like, like, like, Elaine Maxwell, you know, you've got people who stay for whatever fame, whatever. Anyway, but they were like kudos to her. She let got the evidence left straight to the police didn't come online. She's not trying to go viral with it. She did exactly what you're supposed to do. Police, you're investigating and it starts getting leaked here and there. That's something's going on with Mason whole. And Gideon is like, OK, I want to cover this case, but he also knows if he starts reaching out, because I think at this point, the ex girlfriend hadn't reached out to him. If he starts asking around how to get in contacts with Mason whole's ex girlfriend, Mason whole, hello, is going to know what's happening. So he decides he's going to play an uno reverse. That's how he describes it. He's going to go on the discord and debunk the Hulu accusations. So there were whispers that some things going on with Hulu, like, you know, weird charges, like, some things going on. And he, Gideon goes online and he's like, no, it's not true. They're all fake. Okay. Really? All he's trying to play Hulu. Hulu. Yes. So it's a whole ordeal. I mean, all of the videos are on Gideon's YouTube channel. There's a handful of them. There's interviews after the fact. There's just a lot. So please go watch all of those in its entirety so that you can get at the really good idea of what's going on. But they decide that they're going to confront Hulu. Okay. So Gideon. And then you have this guy, Alex from Predator Poachers. I don't really know much about him, but then you have Liv, who is the ex girlfriend? So those three are going to show up to Hulu's apartment and confront him. Wait, I'm so sorry. Where did we go from? So he was defending Hulu. Only because he knew that he wanted to do this video. Why did he do that? Is he waiting? So the girlfriend reached out to him. It seems like it. So then why is he defending Hulu again? Because they're going to show up to Hulu's house. And if he didn't defend, then I think that he wouldn't let them in and talk to them. It was like a whole. Is that what it is? Yeah. I think that's why. I mean, he can probably explain it better. It's not really the strongest aspects of this case in terms of the actual case itself, the criminal charges. The only reason, okay, honestly, the only reason you need to know about this discord chat is because some people are upset with Jideon for even posting that on discord in the first place, even though it was part of a grander scheme. And then second of all, at one point in the video, you're going to see Jideon almost comically pull out an Uno reverse card on Hulu's face. So that's really the only reason you need to even have this context. So when he first me, Hulu, Hulu thought that Jideon is on his side. Yes, but like, okay, see, that's, it's difficult because Jideon is someone who catches predators. Right. So if you don't know anything about Jideon, other than that, and Jideon shows up to your front door, you're not going to let him in, right? Especially if you're a predator. Right. So then with that discord message, it seems like maybe Hulu was more open to letting him in. Okay. Okay. So does Hulu know that they're coming? No. Oh, it's a surprise. Yeah. Okay. So they get to Florida. They are in the back seat. It's like how the video opens and you just see Alex from predator poachers. I don't know nothing about that man. Live Hulu's ex girlfriend, Jideon on the other side. They're all like crammed into the back seat and live says that after she left Hulu's place, she went straight to the police and she did confront him on the phone after she says he was just sobbing, calling me absolutely sobbing, telling me he wants to talk to me and he's so sorry and he'll change. He'll go to therapy and he's, you know, doing all of this. And now he has demons inside of him just all that type of bullshit. So they show up to his apartment door and they knock on the door. They're filming with their iPhones. And Hulu opens up shirt lists and his hair is a mess. He looks like he just woke up. And Alex from predator poachers tells him like, I don't want any neighbors to overhear anything and then call anybody and just have a shit show. Is it cool if we go inside and talk about it over hushed voices? None of us have any weapons or anything crazy like that. Is it cool if we come in? So they're just like trying to convince Hulu to let them in. So at this point, live the ex girlfriend is like waiting in the car. So it's just Jideon and Alex and their cameraman. I don't even know if their cameraman was there. Okay. So it's just like basically Alex and Jideon. Jideon says, you know, when we went over to his house, we knocked. He opens the door. He sees me and Alex and I shit you not. I saw the life leave his face. So they start, you know, trying to convince him to get in and most of it is like, you don't want the neighbors to overhear. So Mason Hulu, hello, let's them in. And Alex is saying things like before anything like, you know, is any of that shit on telegram? Is it stuff you made yourself or did some dipshit just send that crap to you? So a lot of it is like them trying to play his side like an investigator which is something that they do in most of their videos. I think objectively the way that they are able to communicate with people is really cool and it's not cool. Cool is not the right word is effective and is something that I guess people could learn from. However, I will say a lot of these videos, a lot of the content is not admissible in court. So just keep that in mind, right? And civilians cannot go around playing detective and get confessions out of people. It's just not. It's not going to fly like that in most courtrooms. And he's just like, why didn't make anything myself? So he says that he, you know, they're asking him all the questions of, did you know how old these kids were, like these victims in the videos? And he just says he doesn't know, but he just felt really guilty about it. And this is where Gideon comes in. And Gideon is someone that after my very light research on him, he has this phenomenal ability to say the most unhinged things within complete and absolute straight face. And he just asks and clarifies. He's like, you felt guilty after you came. And he's like, after I just watched the videos and stuff, I felt guilty and I just couldn't, I don't know, I just had to delete everything. And Mason, who low starts giving them lots of different excuses, he said, I wasn't trying to go for younger, younger, younger. I was honestly just trying to go for a little younger than I am. He says, you know, because he's still like 18, he just wanted to see in the 16 to 18 ranges, specifically, which is already a crime is bad, right? But he's, that's his excuse. However, that's not the truth because live already told Gideon, the girls were like three, six, seven, eight. Not that it would be okay if they were 16, 17, but or even 18 and forced into this, right? But were there, was it just girls or boys or both? He responds both, mostly probably women. That's crazy. I would hardly even call 18-year-old girls women, let alone little children that are nowhere near the label of women. Side note, the videos in possession are very bad, according to the police file. In one file, it reads, the victim is between the ages of eight and 10. She is being restrained by a device so she can't fight back. She's like tied up. While another victim is even younger, six to eight years old, and in short, according to the police report, Gideon is being assayed and she's crying. Then in one of the longer videos, there is an eight to 10-year-old little child who is also screaming and crying during the duration of the video. And that's just what's listed in this specific police file. It does state that in his possession, he had more than 10 images in videos. These are just three that we know love. In Gideon's video. he's asked, you know, if it appeared to him, like the children, the victims were in pain, and Hulu responds, "I mean, it seemed like they were probably just numb or drugged up. It seemed like they weren't really saying anything." Also, Hulu, the entire time his demeanor is just like like this, and his eyes are just like soullessly staring into the camera. Wait, how is he out? He's not arrested after the girlfriend's report? No, so they had to go through and I guess figure it out. Is he still out? No, no, no, no. Oh, okay. I think Jideon was on a quick dose, so it's not like there was a week in between. I think it was like the next day after the girlfriend reported to the police that Jideon was in Florida. Wow, okay. Jideon states that live, the ex-girlfriend had told him that as she was going through his phone, she also discovered that he was looking up videos of animals being harmed, which raised a lot of alarms in her brain because they had just gotten a kitten together. Now, Hulu later says that that's not true at all and that she's like half making up stuff just to make him look bad, but like I don't really trust Hulu at all. Obviously, that's not even the most alarming part. The most alarming part aside from the purchasing and the alleged purchasing and possessing of CCM is the fact that he has a little sister around 10 years old, which according to the police report, a lot of the victims depicted were in that age range. He also has a little sister that's an infant and they ask him. So Jideon and Alex are asking, confronting him, were there any thumbnails in there to where the body shape of that girl or boy look the same age as your little sister? He says that's not what I wanted to look at. Obviously, you didn't watch it, but you did see there was a body type that looked like your 10-year-old sister. Probably yes. Were they white, Asian, black? He responds, "I want to watch more white people." He says that he just like, he didn't really try to look for younger. He just bought a package basically and he was just swiping and self-pleasuring. But specifically, if you know back to the alleged screen recording of the messages, the seller is saying things like CCM, teens, all groups. So it seems like he's, I mean, he's specifically asked for CCM. So and not that it would make it better if he was watching teenagers, but it's just like, he keeps trying to be like, "Oh, I didn't want younger. It just happened to be in there and I was just swiping." And there's like this really weird part. I get what they're trying to do, but they're like, "So your hand was down there the whole time." And they're like, "Was it moving up and down?" Like, they're trying to get him to admit that he was getting, you know, gratification out of watching, but he said that he was just watching normal shit and his body and mind just got curious and craved more. He says, "I feel extremely guilty after and I still do to this day." So Ginny on Leaves, and this is pretty much like a, I wouldn't say confession in the legal sense, but as close to admitting to the crimes as you can get on video, okay? It's pretty damn near there. And after he leaves, Hulu's response is doing things like posting a selfie of him at the gym with the looks-maxing music and he writes on there, "No stress. There's always two sides to a story. Coincidence that she's overly pushing trying to get this out on social media after separating. Easiest way to spread misled information is online and therefore I will release with a video on my behalf. With time, the truth will reveal itself. Stay tuned." Another one reads, "Making a meme joke about a matter like that doesn't seem serious." She says, "It destroyed her career. Why is she having a great time now that it's out? Think about framing someone online that there's only so many options. They are smart." I don't know. The peptides have infiltrated his gray matter and they're wreaking havoc because I don't know what this means. He also posts screenshots between his ex-girlfriend and someone else that, in my opinion, I don't know how legitimate these messages are. They just seem super fake. It shows his ex-girlfriend allegedly messaging someone, "Hi. Do you have the messages I sent?" They respond, "Yeah." She responds, "Good. We are going to set him up. Everyone is going to think he is a PDF. Live was like those messages are fake." No one believes those, right? Because that's exactly how someone talks when they're going undercover to take down a small public figure, right? That's exact. Furthermore, Hulu's ex-girlfriend states that they didn't even have enough money to buy food and this is not her complaining like, "Oh, he wasted our money." This is her saying that's the level of depravity. She's using whatever money they did have to purchase CSAM. That's why he's saying things like CP $25 max, which has become a meme. If you go into this case, you're going to see a lot of people saying $25 max, which even Hulu decides that he's going to jump in on the meme because he posted a looks-maxing video, and by looks-maxing video, I mean, clenching your chin, posing really uncomfortably in a way that makes you look like some sort of anime action figure, but incredibly unnatural, sucking in your cheeks, and then you're just doing like selfie videos, thirst trap videos. He posts one of those with five times five, like five x five, which is 25. Does he just think this is a hoot in a holler? Like, he says he wasn't meaming just to me mid. He did it because quote, "Oh, that's just everyone's saying it." And it's crazy because during all of this, you have people defending him. You have fans defending him. You also have fellow moggers, besties, Chad moggers with oatmeal for brains. Brain is smooth as his skin. He posts a selfie of the two of them in the car. Hulu looks unnatural, just posing. And he writes in the caption, "As a former defense attorney and someone who has faced allegations before, I know the importance of waiting to hear both sides. Stop judging as if you know someone's life and let the facts come to light." They were also organizing that he was going to do some sort of big interview with another looks-maxer, but I don't think that if it happened, it's probably not going to air. Jideon at one point starts going through Hulu's phone during this video that he filmed, and he points out, like, I don't know what algorithm it was or one of the social media's, but he's like, "Why'd you like this picture of this really young looking girl?" To which Hulu transparently says, "So I'd get more posts like that to see more." And he's like, "Oh, that makes sense. You built this brick-by-brick. No pun intended." So Jideon is saying, like, "You built your algorithm, brick-by-brick." He says that he understands his girlfriend was traumatized finding because she clicked some of the links and saw this, he said, but he says, "I feel like she really is trying to ruin my life. I feel like if anything, I need to go serve what I did wrong and then maybe go to like a facility treatment center." Yeah. And throughout this entire video, they kind of framed it as we're just filming so you can't later say we came in here and beat you up. It's for safety. And then later at the end, he's like, "Are you guys going to post this?" Yeah. Yeah. And they tell him no. And then he's like, "Then what are the mics for?" And he's like, "I just don't want anything to go online. I just don't want to see my face on the internet right now." They're like, "That's totally understandable." He contemplates, deleting his social media, saying, "I truly just want to delete my account after confessing. I don't even like watching TikTok because people are making fun of me left and right. There's no point in even having it." Jideon, you know, after going on a monologue about how Hulu needs to confess to the internet, when he sees Hulu checking out of the conversation, he hits him with the, "You are you swimming? You have like a swimmer's body." And then he's like, "Oh." And Jideon's like, "No, Homo. Thank you. It's just the shoulder up. It's the upshoulders." And he's like, it's kind of like, you have a Michael Phelps build. Yeah. And then somehow Jideon convinces him to do like a selfie-style video. So Jideon is recording his face. And it looks like he's like, it's like a fan meet. Okay, Jideon is the fan. Not saying he is a fan, but like this recording style. Okay. And then he's like, "Mason, no more child porn, right?" And Risen is nodding and looking away. Last time, and he's looking away muing, running his hand through his hair. And then Jideon literally pulls out an Una Reverse card. Because remember, so a lot of people were actually mad at Jideon when it was happening that he had discredited the allegations against Hulu on his discord. Okay, okay. So a lot of people are like, "I thought you're four catching predators, not protecting predators, right?" So he was like, "I did it for the long game like Una Reverse." He handed a card to him? He just kind of waved it in his face. I don't know if Mason took it. Yeah. What's Mason's reaction? He's like got no reaction this whole time. He's just like soulless eyes. I mean, I guess what could you do at this point? Mason Hall was eventually arrested. May 6, 2026. He is now facing 15 counts of possession of CSAM. His occupation in the arresting documents read TikTok influencer, which he was released on Bond. That bond was revoked because he kept going online. In fact, he went on a discord with a played pretend court. So it was like a discord server with a bunch of people and one of them was like, "I'm gonna be the judge." And then the other person was like, "I'll be the prosecutor. I'll be the defense attorney." On this case? Yes. And Mason was in the chat. Like, he just snuck in or he knew. No, he knew. Oh. And they're like all there. It's like a video, like a zoom meeting on this court. Oh, they're having a fake little trial. Yeah. Mason was a part of it. Yeah. And they're like, "You're on, are my client?" And they're just like doing dumb shit. And he's there. I'm gonna confuse. Yeah. So the bond was you cannot be on social media. You cannot be on the internet unless it's to speak to your attorney. So they revoke his bond. Now he's back in jail. He's still posting. Yeah. In jail? Someone is posting. on the account. On his social media. Posting what? His like the vault. They call it the vault of just fucking weird thirst traps. They're posting thirst traps right now. Yeah. Yeah. That is crazy. Yeah. Who could possibly be posting right now? His manager, his who knows. Yeah. And some people are commenting and they're supporting him in his comments. One comment says, "Can't we just forgive him and stop being jealous?" Another says, "I'm not gonna lie. I don't think he's a bad dude." Another comments, "One minor imperfection you have." Another writes, "Hulo is pred-maxing. One states that for Hulo to get out of his charges, he has to quote, "Hulo got a IQ max bro." Another says, "No more CP-maxing." But there are genuine defenders who are saying things like what he was involved with is somewhat disturbing and wrong. But at the same time, I do not believe he is evil or a genuine danger to society and the way people online are making him out to be. From what has been said about his behavior and interest from a young age, it seems like he is a mentally ill person whose mind became corrupted over time through exposure and disturbing content and not the unhealthy internet spaces. I also feel like Jideon should have focused more on exposing the distributors and people behind the material instead of mainly turning Hulo into a viral target online. What? What? One person comments, "Being mocked by a pedophile is so brutal. How do any of us even recover from this?" Another's because he's facing 25 years. One comment writes, "One year for each dollar he paid for CCM is crazy work." One person comments, "Looks Max are in PDF. Prisoners are going to be opening him up like a kid on Christmas." To which one person comments back, "I don't like how that was worded." Another person comments, "His cellmates are going to appreciate all the looks Maxing he's done." Another person comments, "People defending this because he's attractive proves how cook social media is. If this was some random ugly dude nobody would hesitate to call him a monster. Protect kids first, not influencers." Now I will say this about Jideon. I know lots of people have opinions about just like the whole niche of content that's created with predator catchers and like really that could be said about any niche of content online. I do think I don't really know much of his lore but I think without his video Hulu might have a lot more defenders because these are the exact group of people who are inclined to say things like the ex-girlfriend's line because she's jealous like that. I think that would have been the rhetoric by a lot of people. I don't know if it would have been all people hopefully not but I think him able to get the video of him confessing to it at least for the public to see even if it becomes inadmissible in court. I do think it helps a lot with this case. So what are your thoughts on all of this? Let me know in the comments and stay safe. I will see you in the next one. Bye.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast discusses the "looksmaxing" subculture, focusing on influencer Clivicular, who promotes extreme and dangerous practices like "bone smashing," steroid use, methamphetamine for appetite suppression, and unlicensed cosmetic procedures.
  2. Clivicular has a history of misogynistic remarks, humiliating women on stream, endorsing harmful ideologies, and engaging in reckless behavior, including running over a man with his car.
  3. The episode shifts to Mason Hall (also known as "Hulu"), a smaller looksmaxer arrested for possessing child sexual abuse material (CSAM), with his ex-girlfriend reporting him to police after finding evidence on his phone.
  4. Predator hunter Jideon, along with Alex from Predator Poachers, confronts Hall, using a deceptive strategy to gain his trust and record a near-confession on video.
  5. Hall faces 15 counts of CSAM possession, had his bond revoked for violating internet restrictions, and continues to receive support from some followers despite the severity of the charges.

Summary:

This podcast episode concludes a deep dive into the looksmaxing community, first finishing the lore of influencer Clivicular, who is known for extreme self-modification practices. He openly admits to using meth, steroids, and other dangerous substances to achieve his aesthetic goals, and he frequently degrades women, promotes misogynistic views, and engages in reckless stunts, such as running over a stalker with his car. The narrative then pivots to Mason Hall, a minor looksmaxer, whose ex-girlfriend discovered CSAM on his phone and reported it to police.

Predator hunter Jideon, alongside Alex from Predator Poachers, orchestrates a confrontation with Hall, initially pretending to defend him online to gain his trust. In a recorded visit, Hall admits to possessing and viewing CSAM, including material depicting very young children, though he downplays his culpability with excuses. He was arrested on 15 counts of possession, but his bond was revoked after he violated internet restrictions.

The episode highlights the troubling support Hall still receives from some fans, who downplay his crimes, and criticizes the broader online culture that can enable such behavior. The hosts ultimately credit Jideon's video for countering the narrative that Hall was framed, emphasizing the importance of protecting children over defending influencers.

FAQs

Bone smashing is a practice popularized by looksmaxing figures like Clivicular, where individuals hit their faces with objects like hammers or trophies to alter bone structure. It often results in severe swelling and is considered extreme and dangerous.

Clivicular reportedly took testosterone, minoxidil, dutasteride, Accutane, crystal meth, anabolic steroids, and drugs like pregabalin and baclofen. He used these for hair growth, appetite suppression, and facial changes, often without medical supervision.

Mason Hall, also known as Hulu, is a TikTok influencer and looksmaxer. He was arrested on 15 counts of possession of child sexual abuse material (CSAM), which was discovered by his ex-girlfriend and reported to police.

Gideon used an 'Uno reverse' strategy, first discrediting the allegations online to gain Hall's trust, then confronting him at his apartment with another predator catcher. During the filmed visit, Hall admitted to possessing and viewing CSAM.

Mason Hall's bond was revoked because he violated the conditions by continuing to use social media and the internet, including participating in a fake online court trial about his case.

His ex-girlfriend alleged that Hall injected her face with a fat dissolver (Aqualyx) when she was 17 and he was 19, without a license. She also accused him of assaulting her when she was 16, leading to a civil lawsuit.

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