The podcast features a candid and humorous exploration of personal beliefs, social interactions, and modern trends. The host expresses deep skepticism about new ideas, often dismissing them as derivative or overhyped, citing a lack of excitement and an inability to believe in originality. This skepticism extends to everyday concepts like AI-driven innovation or drive-thru pizza, which he views as already saturated. The conversation shifts to personal life, including awkward social moments, Halloween party dynamics, and discomfort with romantic entanglements—especially sleepovers, which he finds stressful and anxiety-inducing. A recurring theme is the contrast between wealth and authenticity in Los Angeles, where extravagant spending on entertainment is common but feels hollow. The hosts also discuss the rise of AI in content creation, noting how even real people are being used in AI-generated videos, which challenges the authenticity of digital content. Despite this, they emphasize a growing desire for real in-person experiences and genuine human connection, seeing these as more valuable than virtual or AI-based interactions. The tone remains playful and self-reflective, blending personal anecdotes with broader observations about culture, technology, and human behavior, ultimately offering a nuanced look at modern life through a lens of skepticism, humor, and introspection.
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you a little bit late it's been a busy day here jay just non-stop moving incredible you hear us
having meetings i heard your big meeting out there with some of la's brightest silicon's finest yes
i didn't know you silicon or silicone yeah i didn't know it was the audacity in here
just words that don't make sense yeah well that's yeah the fervor was pretty insane
yeah uh well i'm i'm glad to see that you're pushing out in business dave um yeah i'm actually
like so bad at business meetings well what what what why do i do them or why don't yeah what what
don't how do you feel about them i think you're really good at them i just think like natalie
should take all of them right i just like don't believe in that
i'm just like i don't know because i get i get everything yeah in one sentence yeah like not
that i'm not that i understand it but it's like it's the furthest my brain will go the first thing
you say this is what it is i'm like got it yeah you don't need to say anything else like how much
money do you have and what do you want from me that's all i want to know and then and then yeah
maybe you'll get to a place where you can just say that i also don't believe anything exciting
anymore like nothing ever comes to me and i'm like excited about it and i'm like i don't know
nothing does that make sense when's the last time you're excited no it's not it's not that it's
because of like there's a lot of how do i explain this so actually my friend like a couple months
ago came up to me with with this thing that he's inventing yeah and he's using ai to program it as
a lot of people do now like ai helps with like coding and stuff yeah and it's a fucking great
idea okay it's a great idea i don't want to say what it is because i don't want to give other
people the idea all right but it's a great idea but like it doesn't
excite me because i'm like well what are the chances that you just presented me with this
great idea and no one else is working on it that feels very low right it feels like a lot of other
people are having this great idea i just don't believe in things being you know i mean like
you're what if you get lucky though but i just i i can't wrap my head around like if i was elon musk
yeah and someone like and i was in his shoes and someone came to me with something i'd be like oh
wow right like i am actually getting this they're pitching a show and they're pitching a show and
to me first because i am elon musk blah blah there i get it yeah but like i just don't like
am i really you have to take into account too that if you're involved you have like a distribution
no i get that it's like so much bigger than so many people like ilia had this idea for when we
were doing dough bricks and he was like we need we need uh we need to drive through a pizza place
right and i'm like i've never seen a drive-thru pizza place and he's like exactly that's why it's
going to be so good yeah and i'm like i don't like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know
i don't i'm not blown away by the fact that you came up with drive-thru pizza place yeah i'm more
concerned that it doesn't exist because it feels like it doesn't work for a reason but he was he
was like glass half full but he's like it doesn't exist because no one's thought of it and that's
how i that's how i like i look at everything too that like comes at me i'm like well is this has
this not been done yet because it doesn't work i just like don't i don't does that make sense
yeah but you have to think about execution
you have to think about all the things that go through with it if you are passionate about
drive-thru pizza i wonder why drive-thru pizza hasn't worked well then then i think about
what came first uber or lyft uber okay so then i think about uber yeah and then i'm like who was
the fucking idiot that started pitching lyft you know yeah like if you came to me with lyft i'd be
like you are so dumb it's uber already exists yeah i'd be like absolutely not yeah but then
but lyft's done fine then i have to eat my fucking words because lyft is a
billion multi-billion dollar company yeah so i just like i guess yeah i guess you're right i don't
have the kind of vision like i don't get how i don't get how someone can look at uber and be
like i'm gonna do it again but i think i'm gonna do it better you're right and like still have
both work i just i guess i don't really understand how you could do drive-thru pizza and you could
set off that could be all the rage no no i'm four or five copycat i'm done with drive-thru pizza
jay you don't what happened why didn't you make dobrik's drive-thru it's the perfect spot
we didn't have enough we don't have enough room for parking you're not parking you're driving
then people we'd have to run over people and then no one could even come in because
it all it'll be um driveway nally's here now she just joined us you're late now where were you
explain yourself i was in a meeting what was it about about the halloween party oh yeah we just
confirmed we're doing it oh you're doing it yeah i didn't want to ask but now i have to invest in
a costume because i wasn't going to invest in a cost it is really funny when people the last week
people go about ask like everybody has their own way of being like um where are the invites like
everyone everyone everyone everyone assumes that i'm doing it yeah but that they haven't gotten
the invite yet they left off the list which is kind of the worst because i'm like then i have
to explain to people like the invite's not here yet yeah so like this time of year i'll usually
get more and more people inviting me to things yeah like and not just halloween things but
they'll be like hey you got a suite at the la king's game you want to go to the halloween party
want to come like that's weird you haven't hit me up in 11 months um uh so yeah so now we're doing
that um and a lot of people are like a lot of another thing i see is like hey i'm throwing a
halloween party just want to make sure it's not on the same day as yours that's like that's like
a really good approach yeah that's a good um what are you gonna be uh my oh my other favorite one is
i get i get this one a lot where it's like it's like hey i'm this it'll be a guy that's not
invited
yeah i'll be like yo i want to bring my seven girls to the party just want to make sure they're
all good oh wow that's bold i think it's really good i i i really like that approach because it's
like i want to make sure they're all good even though this guy hasn't been invited yet i think
it's like it's almost like putting the like putting the problem on somebody else i don't know
yeah that's really um but yeah it's you want these girls to come right yeah we need to make
it i'm gonna actually have to sneak in with them if that's all right um but yeah no i'm excited i
i didn't want to do it because it's just like such a headache but don't do it really we're doing it
don't do it why would you do it mally really likes it the street is so skinny well that's this we're
not doing it on halloween okay yeah so like that was a big problem we did last year on halloween
it's halloween on a saturday this year oh it's on a saturday yeah so we're doing it on like
maybe even a week before we don't know exactly when we're doing it but uh
yeah i don't know i do like it i think it like it makes the video like it gives us a purpose to do
something in the video so i think like even just that alone is exciting but yes in terms of like
what a headache it is and the house is destroyed for a week before and a week after um that does
kind of kill the vibe and halloween is like the most competitive holiday here of all time there is
there's like five parties just on halloween and then halloween eve is even worse when do you when
you choose your halloween costume what what kind of costume do you choose i don't know i don't know
halloween costume what what goes into your thought process absolutely nothing you go the easiest you
can or easiest i can i could not care less about how i look for halloween what did you do last year
it's always the same thing it's always like firefighter police officer or a safari guide
it's the easy things it's like the things that you wear a shirt and a hat i love wearing a hat
yeah so all those things require a hat um and then just like an easy uniform it's so simple
i don't know i'm not a big halloween guy i mean for you it's simple for sure
i'm like
stressing out galore i would love to be a girl though because like obviously let's you know
girls dress a little bit more provocative we're sexy and i i would love if i could do that
do you know what i mean you wish you were a woman listen what that is the actual halloween it's 2026
david halloween's the one time i wish i could be a woman why don't it is very fun why don't you
dress a little provocatively this time why don't you find something you know i know baywatch is
coming back maybe you could wear a speedo but like it doesn't work with guys like i don't even care
if you're like noah back it's not like it doesn't have the same vibe to it like a guy with his abs
out no one likes a guy that like knows he's hot especially during halloween it's kind of icky
actually right like it's almost cooler if you're the guy that's hot and you're like more covered up
but like a girl like you could just be like you never like to dress crazy and then you like
step the fuck out yeah yeah and you're like whoa what the fuck
lindsay dude this is crazy that's why i want to be a hot girl for halloween i went as a girl once
for halloween and i noticed it was like women got very like like they were like poking me and stuff
like oh yeah you like that like it like it almost like reversed you know how women are always like
objects of people's desire yeah it felt that way when i had the skirt on i felt like oh yeah i mean
i definitely poke you if you had like a skirt it's because your belly's probably where are you
poking you like your belly yeah i mean i definitely poke you if you had like a skirt
in my belly yeah well it's just like yeah it's kind of cat calling oh cat call i don't know who
you're hanging out yeah what the fuck this is a long time ago i i always think it's funny when
people dress for halloween and you can't tell who they are yeah i think that's the i also think i've
said this on the pod before i think that like that's the best part like when people come to
the party and i don't remember their names this is the one time of year where i could learn
like their names again yeah because i'll be like it'll be they'll have like light
dracula makeup on i'll be like i'm so sorry who who are you and they'll be like it's sam
i'll be like oh my god sam how the fuck are you
So that's nice where I can learn that.
But Zayn last year, I also think it's really,
because a lot of guys are trying to hook up with girls for Halloween.
That's the exciting part.
I think it's really funny.
Zayn, this is so endearing, and if I was a girl,
this is why I would hook up with him.
He dressed up as a goat one year, and full prosthetics,
hair on the chin, hair on the cheeks, looking like a goat.
And when every other guy is trying to look really hot,
I thought that was really cool.
I was like, fuck yeah, Zayn.
Wow.
Did he hook up?
No.
No, no.
Actually, I think he passed out in the back of my Uber.
Yeah, Zayn never goes out with some Casablanca girls.
He does, he does.
Sometimes he does.
Sometimes he really grooms himself and takes the time,
and then we go out and he feels good about it,
and he'll talk to people sometimes.
No, he always grooms himself.
Yeah.
He's always the most anal about how he looks,
which is interesting because that's not the vibe he gives off,
at all.
Yeah, yeah.
He's not pursuing girls.
If it happens, it happens.
He's not like, hey, baby.
He's always just pursuing, just having the best time.
Yeah.
And just getting the most drunk.
We went out with his mom.
It was really fun.
She's got surgery.
Yeah, a whole facelift.
What happened?
She got a facelift and a nose job.
Everything.
Yeah, everything.
And she got this, what, a couple months ago?
Yeah, like two and a half months ago now.
And the first week or two, her face looked horrifying.
Yeah, it's all swollen.
The doctor told her, don't look at yourself.
And Zayn didn't allow her to look at herself in the mirror.
Yeah, it's scary.
Because, I mean, it would send you into. Like, when I saw it, I was like, how on earth is this going to heal?
But she looks. Incredible.
I can't wait to be like 55, 60 and get my facelift.
It, like, changes your life.
But, I mean, by that time, it's not even going to be a facelift.
It's going to be like a fucking. It's going to be one injection you get in your fucking arm,
and it's going to reform your face.
I don't know, but maybe.
Like, some crazy shit's going to happen.
It's going to happen by then.
She was all. She showed me a photo of her, like, all beaten up with, like, you know,
like, literally red under her eyes and everything.
She said that Zayn's assistant, Bella, came in and, like, had to pretend.
She was like, oh, no, you look great.
Like that.
But she clearly did look great.
She's just been, like, beaten up so bad.
Yeah.
She was, like, lying in that moment.
She didn't want to make her feel bad.
Zayn's mom, yeah, Zayn's mom was like, yeah,
I could totally tell on Bella's face that she was lying to me.
And it kind of hurt me.
And I'm like, yeah.
It kind of hurt me.
Because, like, even when I saw her with, like, semi-bandaged. No, I saw her, like, a couple weeks in where it was not healed at all.
But I was like, is this it?
So, like, I didn't know what to say either.
I didn't know. You know, it's like talking to, like, a woman that, like,
you may think is pregnant.
Like, you just don't. You don't say anything.
Yeah.
I found out yesterday that I'm big-time drama.
I was talking to my friend Haley.
We ran into her.
We went to Vegas yesterday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I ran into her.
We ran into her there.
And I was talking to her about, like, you know, me being out of shape, my dating life.
And she, like, really, like, called me out on it.
She's like, you realize you don't actually care about any of those things.
You just, like, like to talk about that.
Yeah.
Wait, she called you out on it?
Yeah.
I didn't hear that.
She didn't say it that way.
She just said, you're drama.
And she's just like, you don't act. Do you want to find a girlfriend?
I'm like, no, not really.
And she's like, do you care that you're fat?
She's like, not really.
And I'm like, no.
Not really.
And it is very much true.
Like, it is just, like, a thing that I like to discuss.
Right.
And I think that's. I just kind of lean on it as, like, a conversation piece of it.
That's kind of it.
Because it's not like I'm making changes.
If I actually cared about it, I'd change things.
Right.
Right?
Like, start actually going on dates.
Right?
Start exercising.
Well, it's, like, the easiest way to, like, lock in with someone right away.
Talk about your failing dating life.
Totally.
And talk about how you might need to lose a little weight.
But I don't even use it to talk about. Like, I, like, literally just say it.
I think you just love yourself.
I just. Thank you.
I just say it just to say it now, I've realized.
Like, I don't even. Like, I'll talk to Natalie about it.
I'll be like, I need to find a girlfriend.
I don't fucking. I don't need that.
The second I get close to finding a girlfriend, I get spooked.
And I'm like, I can't do this.
So it's not even, like, connecting with someone initially.
I'm just like, I think I just have, like, something wrong with me.
What if all your friends got girlfriends?
What if Natalie got a boyfriend?
Would you then pick yourself up and be like, shit.
No.
You wouldn't.
No, I think then I would even. I would even double down on talking about it more.
Oh, really?
I'd be like, let's go out tonight and you guys find me a girlfriend.
Oh.
You know?
But, like, it's just, like, stupid shit that's spewing out of my mouth.
It's like, that's not what I want.
Right.
And you know what the worst thing is?
What?
Is, like, hooking up with a girl.
Oh, the worst.
It's the worst.
It really is.
Why?
It's just, like, such a. Like, I don't like when girls sleep over.
Very, like, very. I think. I think a girl slept over, like, a couple months ago.
Very rarely that happens.
Yeah.
And I just get, like. I can't sleep.
I get so stressed.
And it, like, makes my night out.
Like, it just, like, ruins my night out.
Huh.
Because it's like, for what?
Like, why am I doing this?
And recently, I took care of Taylor's cat.
Yeah.
And this was two days ago, and I had it sleep over.
Yeah.
Really cute.
Really cuddly.
Slept right by my face.
Took a lot of Claritin before.
Well, took two.
Not a lot.
But it's. It felt the exact same way as I feel when a girl's sleeping over.
I just, like, felt. I couldn't actually sleep.
I was, like, scared that I was gonna, like. Oh.
Like, roll over onto the cat.
I woke up.
I had to take care of the cat and make sure, like, the cat's okay.
It's fed.
It has its water or whatever.
And I was like, this sucks.
A lot of people do separate bedrooms, you know?
Yeah.
People do that.
You're supposed to. A lot of people say that's the way you're supposed to do it.
But then when I got out of a relationship, I was completely the opposite.
I was like, how do you sleep alone?
And, like, now I'm, like, so used to sleeping alone.
That's all I want.
So I do think I'll go back to it.
I found that, too.
I was alone for a long time, like, over COVID and stuff.
And then it was, like, it was pretty dark days.
But then eventually. Huh?
Yeah, you get so used to it.
Yeah.
But then eventually you're like, oh, this is pretty good.
I'm okay.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, but then when. Like, now, if you had to be alone. If I had to be alone now?
Yeah, like, if Naveen left you, you'd be stressed.
Yeah.
For at least two years.
Yeah, a couple years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, I love this.
I love silence.
I love, like. That's because you've been alone 19 years, brother.
I have not been alone, brother.
I've been in, first of all, like, way more relationships than you have been.
And you've been in one.
You're not a professional, so. Hush up.
I've been in a couple situationships, so. Like what?
That's so funny.
I have no idea about his situationships.
I couldn't tell you one of them.
I don't know who they were, what happened.
He's so low-key.
He wasn't in situationships.
They were made up.
I've seen a girl for, like, three times in a row or something.
I've seen some fucking shit like that.
What?
No, there's been girls that I've seen, like, ten months in a row.
Two years in a row.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like, consists, like, you've been exclusively with that person?
Yeah.
Okay.
Why are you rolling your eyes?
I'm saying, like, I'm just. Okay.
Because your definition of, like, relationships is. I'm saying situationship.
I'm not saying relationship.
A situationship is, like. That's exactly what it is.
It's, like, you're seeing a person.
It's not exclusive.
It's kind of, like, what is this?
Everyone's stressed.
It's not worth it.
It's stupid.
And that's. And then it kind of just, like, dissipates.
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm just saying it's not, like. It's not, like, serious.
I don't know how that, like, quantifies against the multiple relationships I've had.
No, you haven't beat there.
Okay.
But I was just kind of just also saying that, like. You just want to prove that you are. That I've also talked to girls, yeah.
That you like women.
Yeah, I like women.
Because we're all confused.
Yeah, no.
Trust me.
I like women.
Do you have a lot of guys that. Do you have a guy right now that's just, like, texting you a lot, but you don't actually
go out and see him?
Sorry.
What the fuck was that about?
Dude, yesterday we were in Vegas.
Oh, my God.
What happened?
Let me tell the story.
It's my story, and you're going to fuck it up and make me sound like a weirdo.
Oh, you were a fucking weirdo, my friend.
No, I wasn't.
What did you do in Vegas?
You were a fucking weirdo.
We were in Vegas at the snack convention.
I knew it.
I knew you were at a snack convention.
Wait, this snack convention was actually cool.
It was good?
It was really fun.
Yeah, because normally we go, it's like, we go to the snack conventions for waivers, right?
Sure.
So we're always there, like, talking to buyers about our product, yada, yada, yada.
Yeah.
And normally, it's huge auditoriums, expo halls, like, miles long, basically, of snacks.
Yes.
And it's always, like, bullshit.
Like, here's our new fucking healthy beef jerky, and everything's healthier, healthier,
healthier, healthier.
Well, that was. We went to a health. Natural Foods Expo, that one that you're referring to.
That's where I went to that one.
Oh, I went to that one.
Oh, that one?
Yeah, that's the one you went to.
That one was healthy.
It was not my vibe.
Yeah, okay.
Not my vibe.
Okay.
Okay?
Okay.
You went to the real snack convention.
But this one that we went to was a convenience store convention.
So it was, like, not only were they selling snacks, guess what, Jay?
What?
Alcohol.
Heineken.
Like, all kinds of vodka, seltzers, everybody was there.
Ooh.
So it was really cool.
And guess what?
Cigarettes.
No.
Marlboro was there.
No.
Yes.
Zins.
Zins.
What's going on at the Marlboro booth?
And lighters.
What?
It was popping off at the Marlboro booth.
I bet.
No.
Yeah, Nellie was like, notice how everybody in there is happier.
Kidding, kidding, kidding.
What were they. What's the vibe at the Marlboro booth?
It's all very corporate.
Everyone is very corporate.
Corporate, yeah.
No, but it was incredible.
It was like. Not like guys playing pool.
It was all the. They should have done that.
That would have been sick.
Oh, that's a. That's actually a really good idea.
That's a good idea.
Pool table and just smoke machines.
Yeah, just a fog, like a hazer.
That's really funny.
You can't sample in there, can you?
No.
No, you can't.
I actually don't.
You could sample everything else except the cigarettes.
But vapes.
They had a bunch of vapes.
People were vaping all around the place.
Really?
They were not.
You weren't supposed to be vaping.
You weren't supposed to vape, but you could take vapes with you.
Wow.
Everyone was vaping all over.
No, they fucking weren't.
Yes, they were.
I noticed so many people vaping.
It was like two people vaping.
That's a lot.
What was your favorite snack that you saw?
Dubai chocolate is making a big. Yeah, it's a big theme.
It's a big theme.
So like, what was it?
Wonderful pistachios?
Yeah.
Now they're doing chocolate pistachios.
We met with the CEO of Celsius there.
He has unreleased Celsius flavors.
He had us try brand new can designs.
Everything was really exciting.
Like shit, this was the future of fucking snacks.
Oh, gosh.
They're selling their products they're going to come out with for next year or two,
like marketing that to the buyers.
There was this guy who was in the bathroom, and I went to go pee.
Obviously, that's what you do in the bathroom.
And then I was washing my hands, and he was standing next to me at the urinal.
And he left, didn't wash his hands, and then came to our booth like 10 minutes later.
Shut the fuck up.
Fucking was like, oh, did not like that at all.
I was like, I had my hand sanitizer with me because you meet a lot of people,
so I was sanitizing like a lot.
Did you give him the fist bump?
No, people are weird about the fist bump.
People don't like the fist bump.
That really came and went, huh, during COVID?
Yeah, that was nice.
I'm still fist bumping.
I was so excited about. What's wrong with fist bumps?
That was the one positive out of COVID.
No one does it, dude.
What do you mean?
It's not very warm.
It's fucking weird.
It's fucking weird.
Oh, jeez.
I had no idea.
Also, can I just say fist bumps are low-key almost just as gross?
Why?
Because what do you use to wipe your nose?
Yeah.
The back of your fingers.
That's true.
The very part that you're fist bumping with is arguably kind of the grossest thing.
How about elbow bump?
Love it.
I'm all for it.
Okay.
Two knees together?
I mean, just fucking do the handshake and then sanitize after.
It's all the same.
Have I said this before on here?
How's your grip on a handshake?
Not good.
Soft?
Weak.
Weak.
Natalie got a stronger grip than you on a handshake?
Yeah.
Think so?
For sure.
He has little baby hands.
No, he's a man.
This is what I wanted to say.
It's so funny.
Have I said this before?
I run into a problem where on the elevator, I'll use. For the elevator buttons, I'll use my knuckle.
No.
Because I won't want to touch it with my fingers.
No, I haven't heard that.
But then it turns out that I'm using my knuckle to touch my nose.
Because I don't want to touch my fingers because I don't know where my finger's been.
But I'm actually using the same thing for all the things.
And I'm not even using my fingers for anything.
So it's kind of getting frustrating.
I really got to lock in for what is what.
Yeah.
I think I'm just spreading disease.
Have Natalie press it.
I usually do.
I actually try, yeah.
I try to like. Yeah, can you grab that?
Dude, when we go to the movie theater, I always linger behind. I just like wait for someone to open. I think the movie theater doors are the grossest thing in the world.
Okay.
And you're going straight into your bucket list.
Like at a popcorn right after.
So like I always wait for someone.
Even if I'm like by myself, my friends are already in.
I just stand outside, wait for someone else to go.
And I kind of sneak right behind them.
Like catch you with my foot.
Okay, sorry.
Go ahead.
Well, so we were at the snack convention.
And then we had. We went to Vegas for the day for like, you know, six hours to do the snack convention.
Yeah.
And come home.
And we had some time to kill.
It was right next to the Wynn.
So we went to the Wynn.
And they all went to Gamble.
And I went to the bathroom.
And then when I come out of the bathroom, I'm by myself.
And this man is standing there.
He's probably like 60, this guy.
50 to 60, somewhere in there.
Okay.
And he's like Middle Eastern guy.
High roller?
I mean, that's what he said.
Okay.
So he stops me.
He's like, stops me in my path.
He's like, your beauty is so striking.
Which, by the way, Natalie got that twice yesterday.
Yeah, something was up yesterday.
Something was going on.
A woman went, are you Dua Lipa?
Like, stop being. And I was like, excuse me?
David almost. Just threw up.
He was like, you take that back.
No, but so this man stops me, whatever.
He's telling me I'm beautiful, whatever.
He's a jeweler.
He makes jewelry.
He can make me something beautiful.
And then he was like, how about right now?
He was gambling.
And he's like, right now, let's go play.
And I'll take you shopping.
And I was like, okay, my interest kind of peaks.
I'm like, are we going right now?
Like, there's a Chanel in this hotel.
I know that.
And he was like, come play with me.
Two, three games with me.
I'll take you shopping.
And I was like, well, I need to get back to my friends.
Because they were sitting there.
And I was like, I don't really know this man.
I feel a little weird about this situation.
And he was like, no funny business.
Go hang out with your friends.
No funny business.
When you're done, I'll be over here playing.
No sex, no marriage, no nothing.
I just like to be with a beautiful woman.
And I was like. That's very sweet.
Yeah, I was like, at least he's being transparent.
Sure.
And so then I go, we're playing blackjack.
He comes to the blackjack table like 20 minutes later.
And he's like, whatever he said, I don't even know.
I need to steal her.
Hold on, hold on.
Natalie came over and told us.
She's like, this guy.
Oh, yes.
This guy was willing to buy me a bunch of things, blah, blah.
I was like, oh, you should honestly just go for it.
We have nothing to do.
Yes, then they started hyping me up.
And I'm really curious about this.
Meanwhile, I'm at the table.
I'm up on a $500 hand.
I'm up at $4,500.
Whoa.
I'm crushing it.
I got so many black $100 chips, I don't even know what to do with at this point.
So I'm like, yeah, Natalie.
Roulette?
Blackjack.
I'm like, I'm going to be here a while, so you go do your thing.
So then he comes back over, and Natalie.
So he comes back over, and what did you think when he came back over?
Is that like who you thought I was describing?
No.
I thought it was going to be a very, like, think like heavy Armenian, Rolls Royce, all white, chains.
That's what I was thinking, like very rich-looking guy.
But he was not the same.
He was not the same guy.
He was just like a guy in a t-shirt.
Oh.
Just a guy in a t-shirt.
I was like, oh, okay.
Low-key high roller.
No.
I don't.
No, no, no.
It wasn't like that.
It wasn't like silent money.
It was kind of like.
He was just a guy.
Just a guy.
Just a guy.
Gray hair?
I don't know.
It was like really short.
It was probably gray.
Who knows?
Bigger guy, big blue t-shirt, brown khaki pants, and flip-flops.
Okay.
Like just guy.
Just a man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just 60-year-old man.
Yeah.
But still, I'm like, well, I'll just go for it.
Yeah, you never know.
So then he was like, come play with me.
Like they're playing or whatever.
And I was like, okay.
So we go to this machine.
We're playing.
I don't even know what I'm playing.
I'm pressing a button.
Like one of those little like stupid fun little machines.
Yeah.
And we're playing.
He's like talking to me.
And he was like, you've never like gotten a little crazy before?
You've never let someone spoil you?
Like how?
You're so beautiful.
Like how do you not let someone spoil you?
And I was like, oh, I don't know.
Like I just never really thought about it.
Like I spoil myself.
And he was like, oh, what do you do?
Like you do good for yourself?
And I was like, yeah.
And then.
And at the same time, we're keeping an eye on her.
Right.
From like from our table.
Yeah.
And then we walk over because we want to get closer and see what's going on.
And like they're playing the slot machine.
And the guy has, it says 29,000 credits in.
So I'm like, this guy's fucking.
I don't know what credits means.
Like is this pennies?
Are we talking about it?
Or what is this?
Yeah, I don't know.
So I was like, this dude's crushing.
He's doing really well.
And then he kept.
Like he was asking me questions about what I like to shop for.
And like if he was to get me something, what would he get me?
And he was like, do you like shoes?
Blah, blah, blah.
Kept going back to like wanting to buy me a nice pair of shoes.
And I was like, he's like, what would be your budget?
And I was like, I don't know.
Like it's like 5,000 probably.
Like a good bag would be like $5,000.
Just wanted to see what this man would say.
And he was like, oh, you like a nice bag.
And then I was like, yeah, yeah.
I want a nice bag.
Sure.
And then he was.
And then he was like, okay.
And then he got like kind of straight to the.
My friend, girlfriend that was with us came back over.
And she was like, all right, we're going to eat.
Like we need to hurry this along.
Okay, so we were at another thing.
And I was like, we were talking.
It was me, Scan, and Haley, our girlfriend.
And I was just like saying, I was like, listen, like I just had a dinner with like a very rich person.
And I was thinking to.
It was a man.
And I was thinking in my head.
I was like, if this guy was like, hey, man, $5 million cash right now to give me a blowjob in that bathroom.
I'd be like.
I'd have to talk to Natalie about it.
Yeah.
Like it'd be that much where I'd be like, I'm going to discuss this with my friend.
So I was seeing in Natalie's standards, like what the deal.
Like we were like discussing what deal she's possibly getting done over there.
Sure.
A 5K bag is what's on the line.
We didn't know that.
Yeah.
But I was like, is this guy like offering her a million dollars for her to go sleep with him?
Right.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
Like if a woman offered me a million dollars to sleep with her.
I'd come to my pants.
Come right away.
I wouldn't even be able to get it down in the room.
I'd get so excited.
So it's a little different there.
I don't.
I don't.
Natalie, would you?
Would I what?
Well, if he was like a million dollars to come sleep with me.
I have.
I have cash.
He shows you the cash.
I would definitely be having a conversation about it for sure.
I'd be like, he probably.
I would probably.
I'd probably.
Was he attractive?
No.
He wasn't attractive.
He was just.
He was like.
He was just very like dad.
Seemed like an asshole.
Like dad vibe.
Dad vibes.
Yeah.
Like big dad bod.
Dude, the way you're describing him is way more positive than he looked.
That's not how he was.
But that's a woman.
A woman can look at a guy and think something completely different than what we think.
He was like.
Right?
He was like probably 230 pounds.
Okay.
Big dad bod guy.
Okay.
Like someone you see at the Las Vegas pool.
No, I'm not talking about his weight.
I'm talking about like his aura was not what Nat.
Nat's kind of describing him as like.
Guy you could trust.
Okay.
Oh, no, no.
He wasn't there.
He was.
He was.
He looks.
blimey yeah yeah but like a little bit question i got like she couldn't go with him if she wasn't
10 15 feet away from us like yeah i wouldn't like go anywhere with him oh i see yeah you wouldn't
even walk over to chanel with him no i was like apprehensive about that we have to trail behind
her not that she's gonna get kidnapped at the fucking win but like i feel like he just yeah
anyways so then it got progressively worse whatever and then and then hayley comes over
and i'm not even really looking at the man like i'm not like like i'm not staring into his eyes
and like dissecting him oh but she is fucking laughing like no other when she came back to
scan was like what was he saying that was so funny natalie was fucking giddy when i when i'm nervous
i just laugh oh my god it was crazy i told him i was like crazy i was like scan if i was this guy
yeah and my jokes were hitting this hard i'd be like this girl wants to fucking marry me
yeah you were fucking laughing
polite or was he being funny no no i was definitely being polite yeah i wanted that
fucking chanel anyway so that's real polite of you so chris hansen walks in and anyway so then
it gets progressive hayley comes over and she notices his necklace which i didn't notice before
it was a long golden diamond encrusted spoon like for drugs oh he had like made himself some sort of
custom drug spoon necklace and i was like oh this is interesting so then she points that out and
then he kind of gets more into like this drug conversation and he was she walks away and he's
like do you ever have you ever done drugs like you like whatever he was listing all these drugs i
was like no no no i'm not like a drug person also like no and and then he was like okay okay he's
like what about what about if i do drugs and i was like i don't care you do whatever you want to do
like i'm not your mommy and he was like okay a thousand dollars right now we go to the bathroom
i do cocaine off your feet
that's what's like i just that's probably when i was dying i was probably dying of laughter in
that moment because i was like what the fuck is this guy saying wow so he was definitely like
what time of day is it 3 p.m 3 p.m fucking nuts boy vegas is something huh so fucking scary it
really is interesting 3 p.m that dude is fucking coked out it was mine i'm really scared so then
we had to wait for fucking natalie in the bathroom yeah um no then i like politely then i stopped i
stopped laughing so hard because i think he's taking this the wrong way and i think i need
to exit from the situation because natalie was there when ali was with him for full 20 minutes
yeah it's only 20 minutes no full 20 grand jay full 20 minutes full 20 minutes what she's hanging
out with him yeah okay that's a long time yeah it's not like it's 20 minutes is a long time just
think about 20 minutes it's not like yeah but you wanted her to uncover the story she got the story
i was trying to dig i was invested at least 20 it was and then no not only that halfway
through i went over to find out how much his credits were yeah that he was winning he's i was
like how much what's the most you've won today he goes 170 dollars i'm like nat come fucking give me
a back massage and sit at my table over here you'll earn more days 4500 up like that's going
way better over here i don't know who this guy is yeah i then i also started putting those pieces
together towards the end of the 15 20 minutes but but like i've always i've i've all i was
excited for her because i was like i've always wanted to see one of these situations play out
me too i've never been actually in that like this man well at the start he was like dead serious
he's like come on like you don't want to be like he was he the way he was talking to me it was like
i was the crazy person that didn't like believe that he was gonna take me to fucking chanel or
louis whatever to get something um so i wanted to just see through and then i you know i saw it for
like 15 20 and i said oh this is definitely not real i gotta go we also have a really like bad
perspective of that because like a lot of people that like do do that like in la yeah like we'll
take out girls and spend like a lot of time with them and i'm like i don't want to do that i don't
like oh it happens all the time i have so many friends that yeah people like someone will take
out like a group of five girls and spend seven hundred thousand dollars on them in chanel
oh and then you know i mean which is very i don't i mean i know what you mean i mean listen
this is i hate to convince anyone to move to la but if you were a pretty girl in la
oh game over game over yeah yes some of your friends like if you like doing that stuff
right yeah but it feels very it's it's bizarre it feels not it doesn't feel nice what's the
what's the thing there it's like no sex so you're just well i think if you do have sex and you are
hooking up there's a there's obviously a lot more bigger perks there but like oh gets them in the
door yeah well no no no i think a lot of these people that are spending money aren't being like
weird about it yeah they're just hanging out they're just hanging that's so they make so much
yeah i sorry it does sound really gross i meant to say like they just genuinely will spend that
much money because they have so much money oh and it's like it's like inviting why not yeah yeah
yeah like they almost get off to like the girls just like having fun it's like when you uh throw
the game on you like have as much tostitos as you want guys yeah it's like me grabbing you a
celsius from the fridge yeah anything from the fridge have as much as you want yeah 700k yeah
but people are people dude people are silent multi-billionaires in la right like all these
crypto people it's like money that just like doesn't yeah that doesn't matter you remember
malone yeah the guy that now they're doing like a netflix doc on him right my friend's writing a
every day yeah so he not every day but we saw him at the club twice yeah and we talked about on the
podcast before and yeah he bought like a girl a lamborghini he ended up stealing 250 million
dollars from someone that's how he got the money right but like he would spend it on girls where
he'd buy them he'd have cars show up in their driveway the next day yeah and the girls would
be like but i have a boyfriend and he'd be like i don't care keep the car wow and like that's it
because money was like that to him he actually just two weeks ago uh one of the people that like
used to work with him and he was like i don't care i don't care i don't care i don't care i don't
care hit me up and it was like malone says hi he says hope you're doing well oh my god what yeah
he's in jail so he says hi from jail yeah um which is really funny from jail um but yeah i told you
that what i told you that that he said hi it was from jail oh really yeah oh i didn't want to say
the guy's name but someone i guess someone else someone else did did you tell me on the pod no
oh that's really funny um wow it's a crazy world out of here but moral of the story is
wrap it up
dave put it in a little bow for everybody yeah what is it what is the moral of the story is
if you're gonna be spoiled you have to pick the right sugar daddy
and always be around your friends yeah yeah yeah charge more for your feet for your feet
thousands pretty low i'm surprised you didn't go back and you weren't like 25 000
i said 5 000 because i was already oh you did respond what do you mean for coke off your feet
oh no no
no no no i wasn't gonna because that obviously we weren't gonna go into like the bathroom it's
illegal well yeah no i'm not i'm not i'm not trying to be like pr here i'm just saying like
i thought if you do that to win you're you're fucking that well it's the worst place to do it
there's no public place to do it i just felt like he would that was like a segue for him to get me
to his room you know because that's the only place that you'd be able to do something like that you
know yeah yeah no no for sure for sure no we'd have to all go and all of you and i'd have to try
the coke off your feet and i'd have to try the coke off your feet and i'd have to try the coke off your feet
and make sure it was okay and i'd have to try the feet separately just to make sure that
it's just for his sake make sure natalie's feet are clean you have really incredible feet
oh wow it was quite the vegas experience even though we were only there we covered every day
i like that i like a day trip to vegas that sounds fun it was and we get lunch we got like yeah light
bites at one of those little bars like we were so full because all we were eating was unreleased
snacks oh people probably didn't like it but we were so full because all we were eating was
they must have been coming at you with all you ever had i had an oreo reese's peanut butter collab
oreo reese's peanut so oreo with reese's peanut butter in the middle peanut butter is in the
middle it's it was everything was fucking incredible there was next level and then we uh
we did the tesla tunnel yeah so like you can take the tesla cars underneath vegas and what would
take you a 30 minute ride is a minute 30 seconds because oh the tesla you did that yeah it's really
cool did you film it yeah filmed it it's this is all going in like the work vlog one day i think
wow hey what happened with the roadster i it's now it's on the 15th weather permitting of october
yeah oh and i'm going to be in a in a different place so i have to fly in just for that and then
fly back to the other place are you kidding yes i have to like fly in oh my god i'm like seven
hours away and i have to get back because i have another like deal i'm working on yeah so i'm
literally just flying in for the event i'll be there for four hours and i have to fly out
oh my god yeah it's kind of sucks that they moved it but yeah because i keep seeing stuff about it
i'm so excited because people are really hating on it what are they saying well they're just like
saying like there's no fucking way it's gonna fly this is everyone's like it's like really weird i'm
like why is everybody doubting is this like a pr thing that everyone's doubting the fact that this
car is gonna be able to fly it's gonna be able to fly guys i can't wait to get there and it doesn't
fly is it the type of thing when so let's say it does fly is it the type of thing where there's no
laws against flying
so like they can just do whatever they want and eventually maybe there'll be a law like
no no no it's gonna fly like practically right it's just gonna like lift off the ground
right i don't think you're and travel it's like you know how my tesla used to be able to fucking
dance to music yeah there's no actual like use case for that it just lifts up yeah other than
just be like look what it can do but it can't it can't go off the ground and go into your garage
i don't have no idea but i assume it's just gonna lift off about two three feet off the ground yeah
float for about 10 seconds and come back down oh wow but like that's enough to be to be to show your
friends
i mean
You're like, look at this.
It always comes back to that, doesn't it, with you?
Yeah.
What can I show John and Ilya?
Yeah, enough to fly Mike and Nick out for them to be impressed.
Yo, dude, Mike and Nick, man, they got to get more fun with flying out.
I get so frustrated with them.
They're both in relationships.
Yeah.
And it really is really tough to get them to fly out.
I'm curious.
Is this everybody that's married or engaged?
Yes.
Really?
Yeah.
It's like a new chapter of life.
You just don't care as much anymore, I feel like.
You just have this partner that you have to consider for everything.
Mm-hmm.
Huh.
It's like, yeah, it's one of those things.
Why don't you go there?
I get the considering, but the spontaneity of it, why does that disappear?
Why can't you tell your partner, hey, is it okay if I go for two days?
Oh, I think their problem is work, getting work off last minute.
My friend that I'm talking about in this circumstance just lost their job.
That is true.
He is unemployed.
My friend lost his job.
Yeah, I don't know why the fuck he's not out here.
Huh?
Why isn't he out here?
Yeah, and I was like, I'll fly you out first class.
Just come for the weekend.
And like, let's grab drinks, all of us.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is the perfect weekend to do that, too.
Yeah, and he's like, I can't.
I'm like, what?
Just come for one day.
One day.
I think he's just like, really?
I take it back.
That's weird.
Huh?
That's weird.
It is weird?
Yeah.
Okay.
But I told that to Haley, too, and she's like, it's very hard to get any of my married
friends to move anywhere.
Like, they don't.
Haley is the last person.
Oh, wait, talk about Haley like she was in a vlog.
Yeah, no one knows who Haley is.
Haley from Wisconsin?
Oh, fuck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She'll be in the next vlog.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuck, I keep referencing her like we've already put her in there.
But yeah, she's a girl from our school, used to be the most popular girl in our school,
and is the last remaining girl in our school, or like in the friend groups.
Other than me.
Other than Natalie, that's single.
Oh, really?
The only two single people left, yeah.
But like, she's very, very happy to be single.
Everyone's actually married.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everybody?
There's.
Well, there's another.
Her little sister just got married.
Yeah.
Wow.
Two years younger, just got married.
Yeah.
Or their weddings are in the next like three to four months, so.
But the last people aren't getting married right now.
It's crazy.
Single and, what's the phrase?
Loving it?
Ready to mingle?
No, not ready to mingle.
Oh, really?
I feel like we're ready to mingle.
Oh, I'm not like looking to mingle.
Mingle's like not a commitment.
It's just mingling.
I love staying at home and playing COD.
I sat next to a guy on a plane the other night, and he was like heavy into it.
AI.
And he, I was like, oh, so what do you think's going to happen?
He's like, well, he's like, we're going to have like 40% unemployment.
It's going to be really bad for a couple years.
He's like, and then the United States is going to win the AI race.
We're going to make so much money that there's going to be high universal income.
I was like, high, huh?
What's the AI race?
Well, it's just like whatever country is making the most money, they're the ones that will
be able to like pay everybody.
And so he's.
I go, how much money will everyone get?
And he goes, I don't know, like a million dollars a year.
Everybody.
I was like, what?
I was like, so like Wyatt and Charlie get a million dollars a year.
Like everybody.
It's like what a home will now cost $300 million.
I said that too.
I go, well, that will make like crazy inflation.
He's like, no, not at all.
He's like, we'll just be so rich and so wealthy.
And then he said, can you imagine if everyone's going to be paid a million, inflation does
happen.
What are you talking about?
It's not possible.
I asked that.
Jay, what are you talking about?
If now everyone can buy a million dollar home.
Listen, the guy on the plane said.
Jay's like, listen, podcast listeners, nobody has to worry.
No, no.
But listen to this.
Then I thought about this.
What about all the people who like can't control themselves?
What about like heroin addicts?
Like if they get the million dollars, do you see like a bunch of people overdose?
You know, like, like what would, what would that really be like?
I'm sure there's got to be stipulation.
I don't.
What do you, what do you mean stipulations?
Like you.
You still need to be like a contributing member of society.
I don't think universal income is million dollars.
I think universal income is like.
A hundred K?
No, I think it's like enough to get your food and your groceries.
And like, if you want any action, any lug, any type of luxury, I think that's when you're
going to have to do outside.
Like you're going to have to create your own things.
I think when I think of universal, I guess I'm also making things up.
When I think of universal income, I think of enough to live.
Unemployment money type money.
Yeah.
Yes.
But not like.
But like not, not the lower level that it's at today.
Like enough to where you can like live like a pretty sustainable life forever.
But yeah, I guess unemployment money.
I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But all the time.
Yeah.
Wow.
But I know as much as the guy sitting on the plane.
A lot less probably.
Well, he knows everything.
What do you think people will like do with themselves?
I don't know.
Dude, we're having like, there's like a big surge in whatever we fucking do for a living
here.
Have you been feeling that?
What do you mean there's a big surge?
Like, I mean, everybody, everybody's everybody wants to tap into like, I think like, I think
our, our, our creator space is going to be really interesting, especially where we are
is going to be interesting because I think you're going to go like already.
I can't just, it's very hard to decipher what's a real creator and what's AI.
Have you seen that guy with the elongated, elongated face and the funny haircut?
Yeah.
The French guy.
Yeah.
The French AI guy.
Yeah.
I mean, he's only made like 12 videos.
But they're incredible.
And it's, you can't tell if it's AI right away.
No.
No, you can't tell.
Cause, cause the, the actual videos that that guy is in are real, but he's AI'd in the videos.
So everything looks, everything is real except him.
So like, it's going to, my point I'm trying to get at is like, I feel like we're grandfathered
in to like the influencer space and there's going to be a lot less people that are real.
Cause I think a lot of people think the influencer space is going to get really crazy.
Right.
Cause everyone's going to be like, I don't know.
Everyone's going to be able to be an influencer.
Even if like, even if you don't want to be on camera, you'll now be able to be an influencer
through what you create or who you create.
And I think like having real people that you can trust that are real people like you, like
I know that Jason Nash is a real person.
Right.
I know David's a real person.
I think that's going to be more valuable.
And like, that's what I'm hearing a lot in a lot of like meetings.
And then obviously another thing that like, I'm, I want to create more or we're trying
to create is like experiences for people.
So like.
Like more, we want to have more events and stuff like that.
And people, I think are going to, from what we're hearing is like people really heavily
want to invest in things that are like in person.
Like what, what kind of in-person experience would you do?
Like, I mean, just like events that we have here at the house.
Like, I want to like make that like a bigger thing.
Like that's exactly what people, yeah.
Like actually exactly like at the new house.
It's like, yeah, people want to invest in this because that's the thing that like people
are going to need more of.
That's all we have left.
Yeah.
It's just really interesting.
But yeah.
And in a way, maybe it'll get people to connect more.
All right, guys, that's all the time we have for today's pod.
Thank you guys for listening, joining us, hearing us out.
We're going to be back for another episode next fucking week.
So buckle in and we'll see you there.
Thank you, Natalie and Jason.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host expresses skepticism about new ideas, often questioning their originality due to the belief that many great concepts are already being developed by others.
He reflects on personal disinterest in excitement, finding it hard to be inspired by innovations like AI-driven products or drive-thru pizza, which he sees as derivative or already saturated.
The conversation shifts to social dynamics, including humorous observations about Halloween parties, costume choices, and the awkwardness of social interactions.
A recurring theme is a lack of desire for romantic connections, with the host admitting he’s uncomfortable with intimacy, especially sleepovers, and finds the idea of being in a relationship unsettling.
The episode highlights a contrast between wealth and behavior in Los Angeles, where extravagant spending on entertainment or gifts is common, yet often feels disconnected from genuine connection.
There’s a discussion about AI’s growing influence in content creation, where even real people are being used in AI-generated videos, blurring authenticity and raising questions about trust in digital content.
The hosts emphasize a growing desire for in-person experiences and real human interactions over virtual or AI-driven content, seeing this as a valuable shift in how people connect.
The tone is lighthearted and self-deprecating, blending personal anecdotes, social observations, and philosophical musings into a candid exploration of modern life and human behavior.
Summary:
The podcast features a candid and humorous exploration of personal beliefs, social interactions, and modern trends. The host expresses deep skepticism about new ideas, often dismissing them as derivative or overhyped, citing a lack of excitement and an inability to believe in originality. This skepticism extends to everyday concepts like AI-driven innovation or drive-thru pizza, which he views as already saturated.
The conversation shifts to personal life, including awkward social moments, Halloween party dynamics, and discomfort with romantic entanglements—especially sleepovers, which he finds stressful and anxiety-inducing. A recurring theme is the contrast between wealth and authenticity in Los Angeles, where extravagant spending on entertainment is common but feels hollow. The hosts also discuss the rise of AI in content creation, noting how even real people are being used in AI-generated videos, which challenges the authenticity of digital content.
Despite this, they emphasize a growing desire for real in-person experiences and genuine human connection, seeing these as more valuable than virtual or AI-based interactions. The tone remains playful and self-reflective, blending personal anecdotes with broader observations about culture, technology, and human behavior, ultimately offering a nuanced look at modern life through a lens of skepticism, humor, and introspection.
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Jay often feels skeptical about new ideas because he believes many are already being developed by others, making them seem like copycats rather than original. He focuses on execution and practicality, which makes it hard for him to see value in concepts that feel familiar or over-saturated.
Jay doesn't find drive-thru pizza exciting because he believes it's a concept that's already existed or been tried before. He questions its feasibility and thinks it's likely to be a poor execution rather than a revolutionary idea.
Jay believes that in today’s environment, people assume that if a great idea exists, others are already working on it. This makes him doubt the uniqueness of new ideas and leads to a lack of excitement or belief in innovation.
Jay finds business meetings inefficient and often ends up not fully engaging with them. He prefers direct, simple communication — like asking 'how much money do you have and what do you want from me' — and feels that most meetings lack clarity or excitement.
Jay often receives multiple invitations to events like Halloween parties and finds it amusing when people assume he’s attending without confirming. He also appreciates being proactive about scheduling events to avoid conflicts and ensure they don’t overlap.
Jay chooses simple, easy-to-wear costumes like police officers or firefighters. He doesn’t care much about looking flashy or provocative, and thinks the easiest uniform is the most practical for the occasion.
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