Getting Messy with Bob the Drag Queen

(upbeat music) - From stirring the pot as a traitor in the turret, to becoming a New York Times best selling author with his debut novel, Bob the Drag Queen knows how to create a moment. He's a Peabody winner, comedian, podcast host, and the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 8. Today, he joins me to talk about everything, a little Trader's Tea, Polyamory, growing up with the queer mom in the South and more. Buckle up, y'all, 'cause we goin' there. Let's start the show. 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(upbeat music) - Fah! - Hi! - Hey, Paul! - You have your name. - Yes, my first name is Lauren, my middle name is Kiana. - I also keys for the middle name. - Yes, kinda like my sister, one of my name to be Kiki, but my parents thought that's too much. That's not a real name. So they name me Lil' Kiana, Katu. Isn't that crazy? It was time to make me ready for a simulation. - You sound really good, dear Lorde. Kiana Parliament of the Parliament of State. Yes, yes, yes. Of course, the Parliament of the State. - We need these days. - This is just, we're from. - I'm from the Midwest, I'm from Chicago. - Ah! - Oh, okay. - We're from, we're from the South. - I'm from Atlanta. - Oh, Perry. - Do I sound Southern? - It's a slight thing, but it's not given. I'm really fond of Atlanta, like that. - You know, I know it won't. - You don't go that far. - My brother's home like that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Where'd you go to school? - Clayton County. I went to Marrow High School in Clayton County. - Perry. - Lotta Clayton County people. - Yeah. - Walkin', walkin', walkin' flying. - Yes, I mean in Linus. - Bubba Sparks. - Very popular for putting the culture on and any given moment in time. - Specifically, Clayton County. People did not get Clayton County at the credit she deserved. Isn't there were lotto's from too? - Lotto, yeah. People said to me, you go to school with a lotto. I said, a lotto is 20, two years old. (laughing) I assure you, we didn't go to school the same time. - Howling. Well, last time I seen you, and the first time we met was on the legendary show, Legendary, that's no longer, which is, what the hell? - Am I good? You didn't yanked it off the air. You didn't even go find it. You had a pirate in it. - That's cool. - And nothing is your pirate. - But if you do, you go to the website, Caughtin' I'm Skinny. (laughing) (laughing) - Yeah, I had fun on that show. - It was very, very fun. And you know, now La Rocha of Red Drag Race. - Oh my gosh, I live for La. We just had 'em on the show not too long ago. - Red Drag Race. - Respect to the La. Yes. - Gang gang, which episode did you remember? - The episode that I did. I mean, how could I really remember? - You don't even remember you Queens. You know, you're not even memorable. - Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you know what you're so damn wrong. (laughing) You're so wrong. This was right after the baby, so I was like, (laughing) You know what, you have a baby? You were like, you had the snapback. - Okay, Annie. - Is that a word? - That breastfeeding would really suck you dry. - I drank some breast milk yesterday. - What did you think? - It's sweet. - It's very sweet. - It tastes like cereal milk. - If they would let us sell our breast milk, you know how rich women would be. - You can't sell it. You know, bodybuilders would drink breast milk. - But they'd do it like under the table. If we could have a corporate breast milk down. - I would drink it from the tap. - Okay. (laughing) - Bring one of them titties over here. Let me have a, I want it straight from the store. - The titties right here. I want a bite right here. - My friend Amber was breastfeeding because she's overproduced. - Oh, wow. - She has the donut. - She has the donut. She has like, so she has every two hours. She attaches the gadgets to the titties. And then all the friends were around. And then I was like, what does it taste like? Is she pouring me up? - And I poured you a glass. - She poured me a glass and I drank it. It was warm. It was fresh. And it just tastes kind of like creamer or, or, yeah, it's not, it really don't taste as nasty. I think you'd do. - No, it definitely doesn't taste nasty at all. I mean, I've tasted my own breast milk and it's very sweet. It is. - It changes over the course of how your baby gets older though. Like it'll get thicker or it'll get that, you know, based off of your baby's needs. - And it's also, it's not weird because like, it's weird that we drink cow's milk. Then as we drink breast milk from a human being. - That's what I said, they let us, if they let us sell it, we'd be rich. - Is it like calm, does it change with what you eat and stuff? - Well, yeah, I felt like when I had dairy, my son has a dairy allergy. I also feel happy about that. - I've realized he jumped in with a calm question. That's crazy. You know, calm changes based on like how you, if you're eating and what you're eating. - Oh, yeah. I mean, I think it's the same thing. - So you know, boom, gotcha. So you know, boom, gotcha, one can only assume, one can only. But yeah, no, it definitely changes with your diet. Whenever I had dairy, my son even reacted. Like I could see like little, dim little baby pimples popping up and stuff like that. So you do, and you have to eat a lot. - How does your son? - It's too loud, child. - Wow, that's amazing. Congratulations. - That was so much, you were kids. - I do want kids. And that changed for me like a couple of years ago. Like I didn't want kids and then now I do. I just really want a kid low-key. But low-key though, I'm a cancer on society. No, I'm a cancer. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a Jew in cancer. - You give me life. Where's your rising? - I don't know. I don't know my big dream. - Why would you sit up here and do me like that? I just knew you knew. - Whatever makes you confrontational and not open to criticism. But wait a minute, speaking of the kids, you, you speak about you're a polyamorous relationship or you prefer a poly, I don't know if you single now. You single? - No, nothing. I have two partners. - Carry it. - Yeah. - So how does that work, if you that's possible? - So that's some of my babies, you know who you are. - Shout out to his baby. - And it's just two of you, that's where. And if anyone else's claiming they lie in, they lie in. - Okay, wait, so tell me how this works with, so in a polyamorous relationship, what is cheating defined by actually? - Well, I mean, what did we define for anybody else? - Yeah, I think in any relationship, cheating is defined by the, what's the word for the premise? - Yeah, the premise, you say for each other. So if you're in an open relationship, not a poly, but if you're in an open relationship, then some people's like, well, just tell me, some people, I just wanna know when or some people, I don't wanna know anything. - Yeah. - Some people are like, if you use protection, if you have them in the house, if you break the parameters and the guidelines you say for yourself, then I would consider that cheating. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah, yeah. - So one of my partners has a partner. My other partner doesn't have a partner. I live with one of my partners. I don't, well, I'm gonna be, me and the other one, we're gonna move together pretty soon, but as of right now, maybe by the time you're watching this, we and my other partner live together. - And so when did you know that poly-M was more of a fit for you? Like, how'd you been in a bunch of monogamous relationships that didn't work or like, how did it find you? - Well, I don't know, what's a bunch of relationships? I've only been, I've had five partners in my whole life. - Okay. - And my first partner is still my partner. - Well, yeah. So the other ones were I've been kind of coming to go on, but Jacob, I mean Jacob has been together for like eight years now. - Oh my gosh. And Jacob, as you change and evolved as a person and decided to try different things, Jacob was evolving with you. - Yeah. - That's beautiful. - But we started off open, so that wasn't really a part of our, we were never like monogamous. Are you monogamous? That's not my business. - No, you can ask me. So the reason why I'm asked while I'm interested in this, because there was a statement that you had said, I don't know who you were talking to that led into you wanting to be in poly-M relationships, where you were just kind of like, I don't believe one person could be everything to me. - Yeah. - I feel that that's actually how, whether you're polyamorous or whether you're monogamous, that's how you should be thinking. - I agree. - Because how the hell can one person be everything to you? That's why we have friends, family, mentors, therapists. - We'll be going over what a book called. If he says it, if he says it, please, you run. - You know what I mean? - Yeah. - And so I think I'm not what, the way I think about relationships, I don't know how normal or non-normal it is, but I feel like I don't expect you to do everything for me. I don't expect for you to fulfill all my needs. I expect you to fill what I'm asking for you to and what you're capable of as a partner. And what that then leads to, we can continue to add on or take away. We don't have to live together. We could also have separate rooms. You know, I feel like I'm very non-traditional, but I've never tried a polyamorous relationship. - Or even open? I feel like black kids women are not allowed to be open in the world of (beep) so Monique is famously open. - Oh yes. I remember Monique would talk about that. They would literally try to get on her and she's like, "I love y'all for real." - Yeah, Monique is famously open and everyone's like being like, "It's because you're a man, you can't." And it's like, that's not even what, or I think that I might be making this up, but I feel like at some point in Lizzo and seeing what she was open with her current partner, I'm gonna make that up, but I feel like I heard it somewhere. - I remember Monique talked about it and then she was, and then she's, and I don't wanna get her wrong. So if I'm wrong guys, or if we don't not getting you right, - Monique kind of below. - Yeah, comment below. Because she was like, she was, and then her husband, her now husband, Daddy, was like, "I'm cool with it inside." - I love that she calls him Daddy. So, (beep) That's so (beep) and he's a manager. She'd be like, "Well, Daddy said this kind of took us wrong." Ooh, that's so fierce. - Yeah, me falling all the way. - Daddy said no, and Daddy's in the corner like, - Could you do, do you think you could be on that type of tip? Because what I, I agree with you of Daddy does feel (beep) but am I gonna be looking to him and saying, "Daddy?" I don't know. - Well, I had a, like a daddy relationship. I was a daddy in the relationship. So I've had a relationship where I was called Daddy, and I like it. I feel like, if anyone, I don't think there's anything wrong with someone who wants to be submissive. I think there's this big conversation now about how people aren't allowed to be submissive. It's really a conversation for women. They don't give men, they don't give men this. If they don't want to be submissive, someone might call you a little (beep) something for a submissive woman. But if a gay guy submissive another man, everyone's like, "Yeah, girl, let's be submissive." But Sabrina Carpenter had one little picture of her hair getting pulled, and now we gotta unburn our brawls. 'Cause Sabrina Carpenter got a hair pool in one video. I don't want beer gelato, I don't want beer gelato, I want beer gelato, I don't want beer gelato. If she went, what's wrong with having your, it's Sabrina Carpenter wants to get her hair pulled. - Yeah. - There's a famous interview of Madonna being interviewed with this guy and he's gone on about how she's sexually degrading herself 'cause she's chained to this table. - Yeah. - And she had this powerful speech. She's like, I chained myself to the table. It is me chaining myself to the table. It's not about someone doing it to me. And also, someone wants to do it to me. Like it's my business. - But also there's something to it when you are in your front facing like persona in the world, like even think about somebody like Madonna where you're very fierce and then I do understand the behind the closed doors in the bedroom. Take me. You know, the submissive factor is a release. And I do think we don't talk enough about, I think guys think about it sex in this way, but I don't know that women always think about sex as this way to express or to let loose or to let out. It's sometimes, I don't know, really what it becomes. - Well, someone can do it, but they're not taking serious, like when women are as sexually liberated as men are, they're kind of dismissed as not a serious person. Which is why I really love that when Madonna took the, 'cause I might be in the store wrong way. - I love you bringing up Madonna with this. - Madonna famously released a sex book. A book, it's called The Sex Book and it's her Nudes. And I believe what happens is the video of this guy seeing her in a store and he's like, I have new photos of you from when you were a teenager. Do you want to buy them from me? And she's like, no. And he's like, well, otherwise I might release them. And she's like, and then like within a few months, she just had shot, she was like, I'll release my own Nudes. Like you won't get the drop on me. So she monetized it, she released her own Nudes and she still was taking serious as an artist. - Yeah. - Like it was like, and at that time that would have ended careers. - Yeah. - But it made her career. - I mean, they tried to end our girl, Vanessa Williams career. - Vanessa Williams, freaking. - Oh, that same kind of thing. - Frinchy Davis. - Yeah. - Did the same thing in her? - Oh my gosh, Frinchy mother freaking Davis. - I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, can I do all? - I want to say she should have won, but I can't remember who won that season. But she should have been on the top of her. - You better bring up Frinchy. - She's just girl. - Yeah. - Very much giving you Betty Boop. I love it, she bring that up. And I love that you bring up it, Donna, because you actually toured with her. - I did toured with her. - What was it like, did you go, where you like, let's go back into this time in these moments where you did all these culturally iconic things or you kind of just like, hey girl, bye girl, I'm checking in, check it out. - Well, there were some moments where we had to go back 'cause I helped her create the show. And there were a lot of us. It was not just me and Madonna sitting in the room over a fireside chat. There was a lot of folks in her career helping create that show. But I love the honesty. But I helped create segments of the show. And one part I had to create was this retrospective of her career from like literally the beginning to right now. And I went through all of the like, I mean, every movie clip, every interview, everything, every music video, all of a sudden she had done to create this like package performance piece that I did in the show. So yeah, there were a lot of months where I had to like go over her career and go over stuff, but she was really like to revel in things she'd done. She's not really too into people being like, "Oh my God, you're so great." She's like, "We gotta move on." I think at 65, and you've been famous since 20, whatever. - Yeah. - She's 40 years she's been doing this. - Yeah. - So she's probably sick of like she knows. She knows she's an icon. We can move on to the next thing. - Yeah. - To the next icon. - And I think she mostly loved for being somebody that, I mean, you could correct me if I'm wrong. Mostly love for being somebody that's championed queer culture. - Oh yeah. - But also sometimes people are critical of, and I'm curious what you think, especially now that has become so mainstream, queer culture, drag queens. - Do you know the tea between Michelle Visage and Madonna? - Tell me the tea. - According to Michelle. - Get into that. - According to Michelle Visage, this is her book. I didn't say this. Michelle Visage was performing latex ball. The latex ball is this big party in New York City. It's a ball, and it is a charity event. It's the biggest ball in the world, I think. - Terry. - And Michelle Visage was definitely latex ball performing, wearing a black suit, a white shirt, a tie, a blonde ponytail, and a bra over it. Next thing we know, Madonna's wearing a black. - According to Michelle, I wasn't alive. I wasn't in there. I might have been alive, but I wasn't there. I was in Georgia. - Google and Gaga. - So this is exactly what I was gonna be leading to. What is the line when it comes to appreciating, acknowledging, and appropriating, especially if you fit, if you're somebody that is championing a culture that you are more mainstream accepted by to do. What is the, how do you, what's the line then? - Well, as someone who's been a part of counterculture, you know, I was working in New York City not life for a really long time. And there have been times where I have seen things I've done, things my friends have done, outfits we've made, performances that we've done. And then next, you know, there's a mega pop star doing it. - Yeah. - We can't claim the, we can't claim this dance style. We can't claim this outfit. We can't claim this. We can show pictures. - A lot of times we're just on their move boards. I've seen major pop stars doing things I've done. - Yeah. - And I'm like, for a fact, and then when I, - Name them real quick. - Well, honestly, I will name them. Here's the thing, well, I'll, should I name them? - Okay. Here's the thing, everyone thinks, everyone thinks I'm, everyone thinks I'm crazy for this, but I'm not crazy. - Not. - Like I am not crazy. And I'm also not mad. I'm just saying it is a thing that had happened. They both light me up. - I don't wanna say this. (laughing) - I don't wanna say this. ♪ Baby, this is, can you call my yeah ♪ - Here's the thing about traveling. 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Pay the Apple way, terms apply. Same time next week. - So I did this house to the collection. - Okay. - When I was hosting the show called The Pistop, it's their official review show for Paul's Write Write to the House of the Collection. And then-- - I love listening to you talk. - And then one of my favorite pop stars of all time, Beyonce, Giselle, and those cards. - I know you was gon' save me. - And I was like, I did a house, and then everyone's like, there's no way you inspired Beyonce. I was like, why? Why couldn't I inspire Beyonce? And then-- - Listen, there's no way-- - And then on my podcast, I was like, well, her creative director does follow me on Instagram. When I said that, he immediately unfollowed me. And I was like, well, you were following me at one point in time. You were. And by the way, I don't care. Like I'm not trying to be in the design world. I have-- - I'm not trying to be in the design world. - I did this photo. And I think in my opinion, it is-- I cannot wait to see this. - You're not gon' tell me I'm crazy. - By the way, hive. I don't agree with this man. You're not but looking at my eye and tell me I'm crazy. Look me in my eye and tell me I'm crazy. - I mean, the vibe is something. (laughing) - I'm not crazy. - But this is the thing with life. And this is why-- - Do you think I'm crazy? (laughing) - But do you think I'm crazy? - 'Cause what can't we do? - It's a stalemate. - But do you think I'm crazy? - I think you have your brain. - The silhouette, the pose, the hat. And the thing is-- - You can always stand there. - Tell me the truth, Kiki. Be honest with me. - Yeah. - You see in a mood board. - Yes, of course. - You-- - They have references. - Have you ever been like, we gotta get a look? You, have you ever seen one of the queens on the mood board? - Oh my gosh, yes. - Y'all, we're on the mood board. - Of course. - There's nothing wrong with pulling references from pop culture or from subculture or from counterculture. I'm not-- - That's right. - There's no way-- - I mean, but I do think, and this is why I'm asking, is what is the proper way to make sure that you're not a part of erasure? - When it comes to this, it doesn't matter. It's literally a pose in a picture. I don't own that pose. Someone did a pose for me. - Yeah. - When I did it, it was Lee Bowrie inspired. I was pulling from Lee Bowrie. So I didn't create that image, I mean, the image, yes, but I didn't create that-- - I know exactly what you mean. - We're all inspired and taking and making all-- - Yeah, it's all pulled from another thing, from another thing, from another thing, from another thing. So for that, I would say that it doesn't matter, but then like one time, I'm really saying names. One time-- - I live for everything. - One time, Sia did this performance that was very inspired by a Nino West performance. So Nino West is a drag queen and a repost drag race, and she is really big in Ohio. That's not like a read. (laughing) - That's it, Ohio. - Big in Ohio, no, she's-- - No, Nino. - She's big in all over, she's massive in Ohio, and she did this number where her dress comes to life. She ran this massive gown, and the dress just comes to life. Sia does it at Coachella. And everyone's like, I have seen this before. Now in that point, Sia was like, I did pull reference from Nino West, and then I don't know what they worked out. I'm not in the DMs, I'm not-- - Right. - But she said that I was inspired. - But that was so specific. - Yeah. - That's like so like, girl, that is like, that's the thing that Nino West did. - Yeah. - And then there's a thing with like, are in a gronday and pheromone, but they have the same designer. - 'Cause then there's also that too. But I think it's important when we are talking about, like you say, counter-culture of cultures. - I know, by the way, they're lighting me up in the comments. They think for summary, they think there is no way I could possibly inspire someone as great as Beyonce, which I don't know why that's so crazy in my opinion. - Obviously, be Beyonce-- - We gotta be high here. - Charming. - That's why. - Obviously, Beyonce is inspired by culture and general with renaissance. I mean, that was the whole homage to that culture, to obviously her uncle as well, but to the culture that inspired her to be the diva that we know her to be. - And I love that image, I went to renaissance. - Period. - I was there in the silver suit wearing heels, standing for hours. - Yeah. - She thought it over me. - I went over me in this little horse now that she got. - I wait, would she put it over? - So yeah. - I ain't gonna stand on the Cadillac. - You know they pissed her off and she cussed everybody out after that. - I ain't gonna stand on the Cadillac and say that. - She was mad, 'cause she's a Virgo and Beyonce don't play. But yeah, I mean, that's why I always ask because obviously as well with me, whether it's watching Paris' burning and the gag is and it's stable, there is, I think there's always a conversation where you wanna make sure that if you are appreciating or even if just being a part of the culture, always maintaining, pushing forward the right education, right, appreciation and the value because, you know, we're still fighting against so much stuff. - Well, no countercord is monolithic, right? So you're gonna have people in the ballroom or in night life or in whatever. We're gonna be like, I say, go forward. It helps me get more gigs. More people know about the thing that I love. I've been trying to tell people about this forever and now people like it. And you have some folks who like, keep it underground. Don't tell nobody I would've been a secret. So, some folks are gonna love it. Some folks are gonna hate it. You can't, you know what I mean? Like, someone might be like, I don't like when you, you know, talk black in a white space. I don't want them knowing our slang. - I'm gonna say, and I know in that regard too, it's always like, we're like trying to figure out like, what am I to do then? Just not be? - Yeah, I mean, like, are we close? Or are we close? Some folks are gonna be like, it should be kind of culture supposed to be like, it is what it is. Like, we deserve to be part of the mainstream. So, someone's gonna love it. Someone's gonna hate it. - Yeah. - I love Beyonce. They're still like me out. They're like me out. - I love the love of the country. - The comments are crazy. The comments, I can already see them. - I can actually see the comments, this is it. - Because you can feel them. - I can feel them. - You feel that they've already run. - I hear the, I'm dressed like a bumblebee. I'm in the hive. I'm not in the hive. I like Beyonce, I'm not in the hive. Are you in the hive? - I think I'm in the hive. - Are you, are you a, are you a, are you a, - Now, the reason why I said think is because what are we judging it off of? If you're asking me to reveal steps, and all that type of stuff, am I willing to find? - I'm willing to be in the conversation going crazy. - Well, no. - You're not allowed. Because we don't have time for it. - Oh, I have time. I'll make time. - What does the Navy do? - The Navy just smokes weed and chill. The Navy is, they don't have the energy. - I tell you when I see my girl sitting up there now with them kids, living her life, making that makeup, I'm so happy. - For her. - And now the lambs will gas like you. - Oh my God. - The lambs will gas like you down. They will act like things aren't true with that. Or they will, they will, they will fully gas like you. The Swifties will. - Oh my gosh. What will the Swifties? - Oh, they will annoy you so bad. So with the Swifties, I have a theory about Swifties in the hive. - Okay. - I think, first of all, the only people who are actually against Beyonce or Taylor Swift are the Swifties in the hive. Only the Swifties are against Beyonce. Only the beehives against the Swifties. Everyone else is like, they are great artists. You cannot argue that Beyonce is inarguably one of the best performers alive and for the past 100 years. - No, yeah. - You cannot argue that Taylor Swift is a phenomenal songwriter even when she's not writing songs for herself. - Storyteller. - She wrote, Rihanna's the third most popular song, under a, under a, under a, this is what she came for. - It's my name. - She didn't even say it was her. - It made it, she didn't even say it was her. So obviously, Taylor Swift write a bomb. You can't argue this. Obviously, Beyonce can perform down. You cannot. - No one in the adication. - You cannot argue this, but now the beehive is trying to convince us that the Swift, that Taylor Swift is (beep) because they want to lift up Beyonce. Just lift up Beyonce. You don't have to take a text and Taylor Swift. - You need to now see. - And the Swifties are not trying to knock down Beyonce, because she don't sell the men and take a Taylor, but Taylor can't dance like Beyonce, but she can't see like her, but she can't write like her. Just go to the girls' concerts and enjoy. - And what do we think? What are the monsters? - Oh, the monsters are gonna cry. (laughing) They're very sensitive. - They're gonna cry. Give us that shirt, don't bully me, I'll come. - Oh my God. - That's the monsters. - Oh, it's so much going on. - Now, I'm an animal. You don't know what animals are. - Tell me the animal you gotta go. - We gotta go. - Get me, it's going on. - You gotta tell me now. - Get me together, Bob. - Kesha. - When I tell you. - Kesha. - When I. - Coming down to New Wanting and a New York City. Don't stop, man, get, I didn't know what to do. - Yeah, I don't think you knew any of them. - You know that I didn't. - I don't think you knew, I knew the tonality. - I knew the tonality of Ms. Kesha. - I'm a huge Kesha fan. I'm obsessed. - Oh my God. - I have loved Kesha for so long. - She's had such an intense journey and it's so good to see her continue when she could push through and keep telling her story and keep having fun with music. - You know her album, here is the first time that she's owned all of her own music. She owns everything. It's all her. She doesn't owe anyone anything. - It's so happy for her. - It's her first independent album. I would say probably my, the music that I like, the, I'm an animal but I just love Kesha's story and her music. I think that the music I probably connect to and like listen to the most. Lately I've been really in my Mariah Carey bag. - Oh honey. Well when you did the questionnaire, I didn't even get in too 'cause we kept right into an amazing combo but you said you was listening to Mariah Carey over here. Now the real question is, are we talking 90s? Early 90s? Are we talking early 2000s? Are we talking currently? - So it was, we were hopping around. It was late 90s or 2000s when we were listening to we belong together. - Ah yeah. - And then we went back to my all. I give my all. That was the early 90s. And then we went over to hero. And then a hero comes along with the strength to carry on and to cast your fears aside. And you know you can't serve alive. She's so good. Mariah Carey, her pin. We're not talking about this enough. Wake it up. Let's wake it up. Her pin is the next one of the games. - Yes. - Right. No one writes pop music. R&B, Uptimple, R&B like Mariah Carey. There's a reason why she has more number one hits than any woman. And most solo artists, like she's insane. - Yes, even though you were on traders and you didn't make it that far, you were the most talked about. - I was mentioning every single episode of the show. I'm very competitive. - Okay, so tell me about that experience and what was the hardest part? - So the traders was such a wild experience. I was out of my mind because my mother passed away two weeks before the traders. Literally two weeks. My mom died on Sunday. We had her funeral the next Sunday and the following Sunday I was off in Scotland from the traders. I was having panic attacks. They had to call the ambulance for me. None of this made the air. - I'm so sorry, honey. - It was really rough. - It was horrible. - But I was still like, I'm in game mode. Like honestly, I think that if I didn't have it, I would have been even more miserable because I had a break. Even though it was like, I remember maybe like a week and a half. I had a break from the sadness of having to, you know, memorialize my mother just like two weeks earlier, or one week earlier. Literally one week earlier, I had a funeral. So it was nice for me. And you know, I'm a loud mouth. I play hard and fast. I do not pull punches. I accuse. I stand up for myself. I advocate really hard. So people are like, well, I can tell your trader, I would have been allowed if I was a trader, if I was a faithful, if I was working craft services, if I was the director, if I was the car driver, if I was driving the Land Rover's, I would have been allowed them under what? Literally. People always think that they know. But whenever you're a loud person in the game, they always choose you and that gets on my nerves. Like, that's like me, my family. Anytime we play something, they're like, "Cookies, leave me alone and let me play, damn." And also, all of you at home being like, "If I were there, but you weren't." (laughing) You're at home in your pajamas, and I was running a (beep) custom suit. And also, when you're there, it's hard. When you're at home watching, you have all the answers. You already know who's a trader, you already know who's a faithful. You don't know, would you ever do the traders? I mean, I love games, so yeah, I would. You go on the show. I mean, I don't know if I go on a show, child. But I would do it at home. It's crazy, Kiki. What is the secret to it? Because I mean, it seems like a lot of-- Don't ask me. I got to, I got to, I was the first trader to find out. It seemed like it's a lot of mental. Like, my sister did one of these shows. She did celebrity claim to fame. I heard about this show. One, my sister's a (beep) one. And she was playing mind games. Y'all look alike. Widow. And she still won. She won. She made them think that her relative was Laurence Fishburn. And then she got them to like, whole space for her into the end. Because they had brought up a killing to be. And she was like, mm-hmm. And then by the end, when they said Laurence Fishburn, when they finally tried to get it out, it was like, um, wrong. And it was like, damn. It wasn't Laurence Fishburn all this time. So I was at a party one time and I have a rule. One of my rules is, I never let people call me to them. Oh my gosh, I hate that. I hate it. And why? Hi. I'm like, you want to talk to me. I hate that. I'm gonna talk to you. You come here. I broke my rule one time. Because I was at a party and I looked over to someone's going. Stop. And I was like, it's Megan D. Style. I'm gonna walk over there. Oh, here he is. So I walked over to Megan. And she was like, I loved you on the traitors. You were so fun. Yada yada yada. And then I was like, she watches TV. I've gotten into this that she watches TV from different things. I'm here. She liked she's a TV girl. TV and anime. Well, anime is TV, you know, TV and a thing on TV. And then she, she's like, I love you on the traitors. She was sitting there with Paris Hilton. Wow. I want to do well. Yeah. I reckon her buddies. I reckon there. But I live for reckons. You see Paris on the next ad with, uh, with, uh, not a lot of, what's her name? Uh, who tap, tap in? Big face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, um, and I was like, um, and I was like, um, and I was like, I always try to say, oh, I said, let me, let me give you my number. She was like, anyway, uh, the girl can let me give you my number. Yeah. I didn't ask for yours. I tried to give you mine. You could have took my number, Megan. She said, I liked you on the TV. Yeah. I said, I said, let me give my number. She was like, whoa, that is warm. Woo. My goodness. Who is the arrow on? Girl, we outside. Ain't no arrow on. She gathered me. She gathered me. She gathered me. Very quick. Very quick. Listen, I'm bold. I will give my number out. I don't ask for the numbers. I mean, you, you can always not answer. Ask him. Ask him. Get offering your number. I think it's valid, right? Everyone's wild. Meet someone famous. Let me give you my number. Yeah. And for the user, they'll take the number. Yeah. Megan, did I take the number? Well, she's honest. She's an acquirer. She said, look, baby. One time I gave somebody my mom's number because I was like, I used to go, and I still work on this to this day where I just don't want anything to be awkward. And so I try to just like get out of it and try to do all this. Get silly. Mm-hmm. Anyway, this person asked you for my number. And I was like, okay. And I gave them my mom number. And I was like, you know, my phone is there. I was like, my phone is there, but like, you know, just hear me. You know what I'm saying? I'm screaming. When I can tell you this is my **** off. In front of me. Oh. It was like someone answered. Someone answered. And they were sharing's ass. Hello. Hello. See, this is just to give her this honest. That's just to give her this honest. And I look so stupid. Gathered. I look so stupid at this man. Like, well, not a jig is up. So get the **** out. I've never done that, but I want to take someone's. Because, you know, they don't really look with everything. They just, you know, they don't go back and look at the number. I always thought, what would happen if you just, if I put 911 and just saved my number? That's how the thing is so funny. I've never done that. That's illegal. That's illegal. But now what a day is what people have been doing is like, follow me. You know, they try to do the Instagram thing and make it even less invasive. But it's like, I don't know why we get all weird with the numbers and **** could just block each other. Well, that's nothing. I will just dig. I have no qualms hanging up on someone. Yeah. I answer every call. Even if I know the number, I answer the phone. Yeah. I want to talk. I will just hang up. I'll hang up. And I'm a phone call over text person away. And I'm sure nothing's more nor than getting a ****. Giving your number to a texture. So wait a minute. Are you a caller? I'm a caller. Oh, a babe. I'm scared of a call. Kiki. Isn't that crazy? Kiki, too old to be scared to call. This is like 22 23 year old babe. Like it's like, I'll answer it. But like, if you're like, so for instance, if it's this number that I don't know, I'm going to answer it just to see what's going on. But if you're somebody that knows me. Hey, what's the same age? Why the hell you calling me? Yeah. 32. We are not the same age. How did you? Not even close. Not even close. That's dramatic. Was it 35? No. 36. No. 40. No. What the fuck? 39. Yeah. 39. 39. But the way you had me going, yeah. I was having to remember because I feel like I get 40. I feel like I was a kid. You do. You know, it's very, I felt like I was a kid when the kid on the beach came. I felt in my head. I was like, I felt like I was a kid. You probably would be worth. And I wasn't. I mean, being what, oh, I guess you weren't. Yeah. What year did it come out? I think it came out in 2005, 2006, 2006. Now, I was a grown-ass man. Pan Texas grown-ass. But I guess I don't think I- Maybe it brought you back to feeling like a kid. I don't think I clocked at a keel and the B was out when it was out. I think it had been out for a while. And then I saw it. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, it maybe was out when I was a kid. Yeah. Maybe. I also used to get it mixed up with a little bit sunshine for some reason. Oh, my gosh. Miss Mama's Miss Abby won a damn Oscar. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Have you ever been nominated yet? Never been nominated for Oscar. You deserve one. Thank you. I saw the Space Movie. You're talking about a. Nope. Nope. Nope. I live for up. He took me to Disney. When you had the blue. No. I saw it. Nope. It was so good. Oh, my gosh. Thank you. You were great in that movie. Thank you. I really had a lot of fun shooting that movie. It was absolutely like life-changing. And I watched your visual album randomly before this. I was like, oh, kick it off. I'm going to check it out. Thank you for checking it out. It was so good. It was great. It was amazing. I thought it was really. And you saw it produced it, didn't you? Yes, I did. You better work. Child, you know, we got to invest in ourselves. Because if we don't, then who will? You better work. That's amazing. Thank you so much. I really appreciate you for checking it out. You know, you put stuff out. You do your thing in the world. And you kind of have to let it go. I'm sure you don't. I know. Okay. And you just hope, hey. I hope it hits you somewhere. It was great. I feel like you are probably. Let me think hard about this now. I feel like you might be the most famous multi-hyphenant. Like actual multi-hyphenant. Jamie Foxx. No. You won't love, right? Jamie Foxx is a. Obviously an actor. Obviously, Jamie Foxx is an actor. No one's going to argue that he's an actor. Yeah. Where's the. Where's the. Let me just stand up. Well, after the one original that. Oh, he actually just did one. But the. He did one of the most. I kind of. When he got up there, I told him some. ♪ There she is, I'm ready ♪ No, okay, you're right. Jamie Foxx is the multi-hyphenant. You're right. I'm wrong. He's really, yeah, yeah. Jamie Foxx is a big multi-hyphenant. But he's like. Kind of. He's not our generation. Maybe he's that what you mean? He's older. Jamie is literally 15. You can't say that. Is that bad that he's older? Oh my god. This is the roast of Jamie Foxx. No! Which are old ass. Dusty ass. Jamie Foxx, old, crusty, dusty ass. It's not flat. Yeah, he put all it on there. Jamie is really. I hear him. Jamie is literally. 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Well, I'm-- Well, baby, one of us has to be Woopie, correct. One of us has to be Woopie. One of us has to actually look like Woopie Goldberg. So, if you're Woopie, who am I? And I have the tattoo. Oh, my gosh, you love Woopie too. Oh, I'm obsessed. Oh, my gosh, Woopie Goldberg. I'm obsessed with the Goldberg shirt on her head. Baby. That was me as a little girl. I watched it. I was watching Sister Act last night. Baby, sister, act, sister, act, literally sister. You know, that's the only one where the second one was just as good if not good as the-- That was better. That was never happened. Yeah, Godfather too. Oh, people do say that. The Godfather doesn't have a garden too. Yeah, I'm just here with people saying, I ain't never saying that. You give 'em said, I'm glad we were honest now. But people will be saying it though. Yeah, 'cause it's one of the ones if you say you have it, then you have to feel like two minutes, five minutes of. You have it, it's saying, it's like, [bleep] I ain't saying it. And I ain't saying it. I get over it. But I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be going to work stand for sure. Baby, love, we'll be, okay, so I'm joy because joy the only one that's been there for-- I do this all the time. And when my friend's over, do you know how old Joy Bayhara is? How old? How old do you think she is? Well, now you've scared me, so I'm thinking 80. You're best 84 years old. I don't know who the doctor is. I don't know what the standard is. And also what type of minerals, what type of maintenance in the mind? What is-- Because her mind is strong. 80 to 82. Her mind is strong. The minerals, the-- You know what I mean? There's probably gotta have been something. The hair, the everything, the mind. The mind is strong. Joy Bayhara, she comes, I was on the view. You probably on the view? Yeah, I love going on the view. Joy Bayhara's coming with jokes on the spot. Yes, and she'd be looking at you like, are you ready? She is a brilliant-- She's always in your eyes. So I was, I think you have a joy. I'm joy, I'm fine with that. Do you want a conservative voice? It's gonna be annoying to have a round. What do that mean? You mean literally political? Do we mean socially? You know who it is. You know who it is. You know who it is. You know what I'm talking about. We're thinking of the same person. No! How are we gonna do it? We're gonna say it on three. One, two, three. Candidates votes. But you know, she was-- She would give it to us. She would be giving it to our ass as if she would be giving us TV. And we'll be going back and forth. Okay, so it's me issue is Candice, because we need the conservative voice. Yeah. And then-- Do we need-- We don't need no straight men up in there. So we're gonna go ahead and skip on that. But I do think we could have-- We need a messy queen. Okay. We need a messy girl. We need a messy-- And for me, it's probably T.S. Madison. Oh! Hell, yes. Yeah. Now this is a show. It's not called, if you was called, the mess. Baby, we might have just so s---ed. Welcome to the mess. Me, you, T.S. Madison, and Candice always-- Candice always. My s--- is showing up. They're showing up. They're showing up. What do we talk? Oh, my gosh. Current events. What we've been up to, I mean, the mess would crush. That? Who are we pitching it to? What network are you making? Yeah, I couldn't aspire beyond sight. What network is taking this? I think the mess might need to be-- That's a real good question. Live news on Netflix? Yeah, maybe it needs to be behind it. It needs to be like-- You know what I mean? Because it's gonna be-- it's called the mess. You can't have me the mess and have me be like, this week on the viewer, the mess is going to be messy. This is good. Oh, it's great. I'm living for that. Oh, by the way, who is your dream guest on sibling rivalry? I don't like having guests on the show. I don't like any of your dream people. It can be tough if you don't get somebody that want to talk. What Monique's change is-- I love her. She-- she thinks she over. She wanna interview, she wanna be a journalist so bad. Meanwhile, I'm the one with the Peabody. I have the actual journalism award. I'm on Peabody. I have the actual journalism award, honey. I live. I didn't get it for journalism though. I got it for something else. I'm not a journalist. I just like to put it on my face face. So Monique loves having guests because she likes any of you people. I don't really like interviewing people. So my favorite guest I've had on the show have been my friends. Someone like Bianca de Rio, Peter Mint, Matteo Elaine, Nick Smith, whatever friends swing by. That's when I'm happy. Or if someone comes by, I want them to know that we're gonna be talking about the topic and we can plug something. But I don't-- I really don't like-- I'm not good at faking interests. Yeah. I mean, it can happen sometimes, you know, because every guest is different, every conversation is different. Yeah. To be curious. If you're faking it, you'll get-- eventually you'll get caught. Okay. You remember when the lady thought that Samuel Jackson was Lawrence Fishburn? That was crazy. Because they don't even look alike. They don't even look alike. But he said they get confused all the time. I'm also a Samuel Jackson's fan. Stan. Oh my gosh. Do you know that they both were down to the bottom for Ike and what's love got to do with it? Samuel Jackson. He told me this story. I was doing a move with him called The Cleaner when I was a kid. He said he was like, this is-- you know, they told me it's up against me. You know, it's Fishburn and I felt really good after your audition. The following day, I get flowers to my house and I just know I've got the role. Do you know they sent this man's flowers to tell him, no, you ain't got the role? It is kind of though. But that's so annoying. What does it mean? It is very annoying. It is very annoying. But I do think that Lawrence was right for the role because Samuel Jackson-- But Samuel Jackson. Samuel Jackson. I love Samuel Jackson. Yeah. But it would have been-- I love Samuel Jackson, but it would have been like, you know, you know how he'd be talking? Tina Turner. Adam A. Bullock. You know, when he'd be like-- wait, when he'd be like-- What's up? All these snakes. No. It's so many motherf---ers snakes on this motherf---er plane. And you would know, my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon me. Like, it's always that. Huh. Lerious. Oh my gosh, what's the love guy to do with this? You're actually getting impersonations. I'm not going to ask you to do it. Oh my gosh. I'm really-- Well, actually, I have a game for us to play where that's what we're going to do. Oh, okay. Let's do it. Yeah. But wait, I do want to-- before I get off, I just want-- I'm sorry. I need real everything. No, but me and you were having so much fun. And I just wanted to take a moment to quickly talk about all the things. Just literally want people to hear what you've released this year. I mean, you-- Oh, thank you. Your debut novel. You performed at the Grammy Museum. Obviously, you appeared on Traders and launched a production company. I just want them to know that monks being fun and amazing and all that great stuff. You're achieving so much. Thank you. So what was the highlight? So what about highlights this year was definitely becoming a New York Times best selling novelist. Like, because I chose to be a novelist. So I didn't write autobiography. I didn't write like messy stories from-- My life. My life. From Madonna and the time. We'll be going to tell you this. And when RuPaul whispered this. I wanted to write a fiction story about Harry Tubman that was called Harry Tubman Live in Concert. And when I tell you how I am so proud of this book. I mean, it's such a brilliant concept. Thank you. If you were to be in this time and for you to read, kind of retell what freedom is today. And I would tell you, I made a new time best of it. So luckily, the list is top 15 is now top 10. I was number 15. But I was 1515, but what's true to me is that I was actually 15 out of 1000. I'm like, that's a really hard thing. Out of-- and fiction, I released a book the same week as Wicked. The new Wicked book, Son of a Witch. Or Wicked Wicked Wicked. Whatever the new one is. Bad Wicked y'all. Bad Witcher. Son of a-- I don't know what it is. He wrote a (bleep) book. And then James, the retelling of a hookah bear fin. These are monster books. My comic book. They're huge books. And I made it on that list. That was-- I don't know what you're going to hear. I wish my mom could have been there for this. I know she would have been so proud of me. I just know she would have been like over the moon to know that I made it on the New York Times best sort of list. Especially on the story of this remarkable black woman who has changed the lives of so many Americans. She is just - Hey, man. - She would've been so proud of me, and I hope that the story gets out to more people. People don't know how amazing Harry Tubman is. Like she, however. - What is something that you think that even us black folks don't know that Harriet Tubman did, or what she's about? - Harriet Tubman, first of all, she lived to be almost 100. She lived to be in her 90s. - Hey, man. - Harriet Tubman was under five feet tall. - Oh my gosh, she was so tiny. - Shout out to the shorties. Harriet Tubman did all of that, and all those trips back and forth were mostly in her 20s. - In her 20s. - What have us can even figure out most of it. She was thinking this out. Not only that, she - I mean, I can go on for days and she was physically disabled. She had a very, very, very severe brain injury. - Well, lethal. - So there was a period of time where there was a enslaved person, a young man, in like a shop, and he was doing something that the shop owner didn't like. So the shop owner threw a weight at him. Like a weight, like a five pound weight, like a door stop to hit him. He weave, he weave and hit Harriet Tubman in her head, gave her a severe brain injury that gave her like, basically an induced, like forced narcolepsy. She would pass out for hours at a time, not like a restful slumber like faint. - Yeah, in somewhere dangerous anywhere. - Anywhere she would faint for hours at a time. And she had this injury from her teens until she passed away. Harriet Tubman established a home for a formerly enslaved people in upstate New York where she ended up living her last days. She also kind of got, she not kind of, she got scammed in her last day. She actually built up all this savings. She had been storytelling. She sold her story. She was a community builder. And then she like, basically buried her money. And then she got scammed by these people in her town. And they like beat her up. An old woman took her money. And then she ended up living in the home that she found it for formerly enslaved people. But she was also taken care of there. There's a beautiful picture. It's the last photo of her ever taken. She is sitting in this chair, wrapped in white fabric looking like, I mean, it's probably the most beautiful picture of her in my life. It might be the most beautiful picture I've ever seen in my life. Do you have any pictures here? - What do you mean? - It's right here. It's gonna work. - We can totally prop on it. You sent to us. - It's there. - It's there. - Yes. - I would say, and I ended up pointing up in the videos. I was always pointing to the air. But I love, I love this photo. And I love this woman's story. I love what she's created for us as black people, as Americans. Black history is American history. - It is. 1,000%. 1,000%. - So I'm very proud of that. Also, my, launching my production company, Persever Studios, I'm really proud of that. It's a place for the girls, Gays and Nays, the GGTs, to come and do our stuff. If you're a cis straight man, you can watch it, but you can't come. No point. You know, to enjoy our stuff and create the kind of content that we want to see that we want to hear, the kind of comedy, the kind of, you know, content that we want. - We're narrating your stories. - Yeah, 100%. - As it should be. I just, you know, I don't want to hit on it too hard if it brings up sad thoughts, but I did think it was amazing. Your mom, you grew up. She had a ball. - A bar. - A bar, a bar of our. And she's also queer. - Yeah. - So I want to just know what it was like growing up to her. Just quickly, like just, I mean, she raised such an amazing young man. I want to know just a little bit about her. - Man. (laughing) - Oh my God. (laughing) - In here. - No. - You're a person human. - No, I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a, I'm a him, a he, a sir. I'm a man. My mother Martha Caldwell from Corinth, Mississippi. Scorpio. - Here, yeah. - I don't know much about the zodiac, but I like to tell people that I was raised about Scorpio because everyone's like, oh, raised about Scorpio. It's crazy. My mom was an amazing woman. An amazing, amazing woman. She owned a bar called Stations, a drag bar in Columbus, Georgia call Stations. I was never in the bar because I was too young to be in the bar. During, I was there when we were cleaning up in the game, but I was never there during, in an hour and hours. - In hours. - Because they're like, oh, there's a kid here. (laughing) But my mom taught me a lot. I would say this is why, so there's a queen on RuPaul's Rayway's name, Gigi Good. And Gigi Good made it to the top. She didn't win, but she made it to the top. Like, second and third place. And every episode, they're like, who made your outfit? She's like my mom. Or they're like, who do this, my mom, my mom? And when a kid is loved by their mom, it's like the most, and I'm not saying that a father's love or a grandma's love is not good and that's not what I'm saying. But for me personally, the love of your mother can get you to the highest of highs. And I might season, Derek Berry said, he had a rough relationship with his mom. And he said, my mom broke me, and it feels like I never put myself back together. So the love of your mom can, it can build you up. And if your mom is your first bully, it can destroy you in the worst of ways. You know what I mean? And I think Gigi Good was so good on the show because she's had a mom who believed in her. And I had a mom who believed in me. My mother believed that the son rose when I woke up and it set when I went to sleep. She really did. My mother would call me minimum once a month. Just pick up the phone and she would go, "I just want you to know you're funnier than Bianca D'Aria." Then she would hang out with the phone and we would keep it pushing. Like my mother believed in me so much. And so I want to ask why I'm overly confident. One is because I'm amazing. (laughing) - Duh. - And two is because my mom told me I was and my mother would never lie to me. Why would she lie to me? - That's why we love your mother. And that's why we love all the house and mother's too. For what the other piece that you just said, 'cause it's important to have somebody that's there that encourages you and tells you that you can do it. 'Cause sometimes we just don't know. - It's true. - You know, we don't. - It's so, so true. - Okay, let's make this damn game up. So we're returning to your drag race, Roots. We are about to play a little game and it's going to be called that so snatched. Okay. Now we can't go as hard as the Queens obviously, but I live for impressions and I wanted to face off against one of the greats. - Now I am great at snatched game because the rule of snatched game is to make Nepal laugh and I can always make anyone laugh. But I am not good at impersonations, but I am obsessed with doing them. - Yeah. - I love doing impersonation. - It's all about having fun. So pretty much, we're gonna call out a celebrity name and a situation and try to do their impersonation in that situation. - Got it. - Okay. We'll be Goldberg on the first date. - Here you go. (laughing) - I gotta tell you this date is going really well, but I'm wondering when the check comes, who's gonna be paying for it? I mean, I'm not a no school kind of girl and I'm willing to split the check with you, but I do believe that every once in a while if you're asking me to pay for it, I don't know. - Let's vote. (laughing) - Come as whoopee. - Okay, here's one. - I love how deep her voice is. I am, I tell you, when I tell you I'm obsessed with her, I was watching the sister girl last night being like, my gosh, she looks so beautiful in this movie. - So gorgeous. - She is at the top with her, what's her name? - Oh my god, she's from, she's Lawrence Fisherman's wife in Wackersh. - Oh, Jennifer Lewis. - Jennifer Lewis. - Jennifer Lewis. - Yeah, Jennifer Lewis. - Jennifer Lewis. - Awesome, everybody. - Jennifer Lewis, looking so beautiful. - Yeah, she was always. - Oh my god, how she looked. They should have, she should have had a bigger role. This is right, too. - And because it's like when you're saying, it's like, I'm thinking about it, it's like a blip in my mind, her role. - It literally is a blip. She's one of the dancers and singers. And then she vanishes. - Jennifer Lewis. - But do you know originally that role and look, if I'm wrong, tear me up in the comments, but originally the role of what we go work is a second was Fran Dresser, I thought. - Fran Dresser, I thought it was Fran Dresser. - I thought it was Fran Dresser. - I don't know. I don't know what you're doing. What's the tea? - We were both so ready. I live for entertainment and arts like tea like that. - You know, Fran Dresser was the president of SAI. - She had playing games. - She's on her ass. - She had her papers. - She's like, y'all not doing enough for the actors. - You know the white woman's decker paper, she had playing games. But the white woman was doing this? - I just got a fucking fire. - You got a fucking check. Okay, here's one for me. - Okay, here we go. Let's do Barack Obama working at the Waffle House. - How you doing, sir? So we got eggs, we got bacon, we got grits. But as far as I'm concerned, you look like you need a special. So tell me what you want, sir. - Okay, can I try? - Yeah, please, please. - Welcome to Waffle House. Here, we do have eggs, we do have grits. We even have orange juice, but we do not have universal healthcare. - Ah! (laughing) - And bed is what we need. - Oh my gosh, we need so much. - Obama's got it. When he talks, he talks real slow, then he speeds it up in the end. - That's exactly how he talks. - I was talking to Michelle. (laughing) - Okay, Alan Cummings, shopping at Home Goods. - All right, here we go. I think I'm having another shopping at Home Goods. He's at the register. - Okay. - We have several things here in front of us, and I don't know which one is a good thing or a bad thing. So, here I am with a candlestick, and I don't know if it is a good one or a bad one. So, before you check out, please reveal, are you a good candlestick or a bad one? Thank you. - A dad was so good. - Thank you. - Okay, last one for me on here. I don't know what's so hard to read. I'm sorry about that. These last start prescription, I know. They're not? No, but they're, isn't this pair I wear? Get into it. (laughs) I love that you could change the colors like that. Girl. 'Cause the white is giving everything that needed to be given. It's great. Okay. Can I talk about who were the other kids who made it as pop stars? Let's go. The other kids make the best pop stars. Because that's what it is. How far can I tell you three? Nicki Minaj, Gaby, Gaga, Ariana. Yes. Madonna, Chapel Rhone. These are all theater kids who have become pop stars. Now unfortunately, rarely you can be an actual Broadway actor, go pop star. I think Ariana might be the only one who's been at Broadway actor pop star. But they won't, the world won't respect you as a pop star if they know you was on Broadway. And jazz hits like, why do y'all hate jazz hands? When do jazz hands become so inappropriate? But when you do it the other way around, because Madonna's a theater kid. Gaga's a theater kid. Nicki Minaj is literally, these are theater kids who just happen to be the world's most famous pop stars. Literally. Sentent could have been a pop star. Oh my gosh. And she may make a music now. But she's a theater kid. But she's a theater kid though. Yeah, and they're there. She'll be a kid first. So we won't, we won't listen to the music. We will give you the ultimate Dollar Treatment. We'll give you the L.A. Treatment. We'll give you, we'll listen. But, but you know, there are certain people like Jennifer, Jennifer Hudson. Yes. They always want to hear her sing someone else's songs. They will listen to her songs, but we want to hear you sing a song. Oh, don't like living under your spotlight. Yeah. Do you ever do, what's the, what's the, okay, it's in a personation of an impersonation. Somebody that just impersonated Jennifer. Is someone impersonating Countess Vaughn impersonating, um, no, she was on it, she was on it. No, no, no, no. Who's, she, Jennifer Philly. She's the person she's impersonating Jill, Jill Scott, where she goes, um, what's the, what's the, what's going on? She goes, um, it's so, it's so good. Countess Vaughn doing Jill Scott. You have to Google it. I seen somebody impersonating Jennifer Hudson on the show talking to you. Oh, you're, yeah. I get you some grits and some vaccines and some Vaseline. Please get, count your body. Do you always is talking about products? Yeah, very much. Vaseline grits and eggs get from up and bruise. Jill Scott, we know you. There's a product question. Why me at home? We know it's product placement. We know you got paid. We know Vaseline paid you. Vaseline did their big one. Vaseline got us to call petroleum jelly Vaseline. Yes. Band-aids did their big one. We call every bandage. That's so, I always think about that. We call every girdle spanks. Chapstick. Like it's a brand. All lip balm. We're calling Chapstick. They, they did their big one like, okay, Xerox Chapstick Vaseline spanks band-aids. Yeah. They own the whole industry. It's crazy. It's kind of a man. It's time we see a cream in between a sandwich cookie Oreo. Oreo for sure. But it's not. No, it's the sandwich cookie. The neck crazy. The neck crazy. You have a favorite ice cream. Oh, my favorite ice cream. I'm going, well, ice cream with popsicle ice cream. Ice cream. Favorite ice cream butter pecan. You're a popsicle girl, though. Popsicle girl. I like the red, white and blue. Oh. I mean, nothing. Very cool. No. No. No. No. No. I like a star spankle popstick. I really like, uh, maybe, I'm going to take it right now. This ice cream is game changing. Come on. Put me on to something. Once you have it, everything else would be a second choice. Ben and Jerry's chubby hubby. Now, what does it involve? Because what's a chubby and a hubby? It's pretzels. It is peanut butter. It is chocolate and a vanilla base. I think there might be some caramel in it. Nothing matters. What was the period of time during COVID where I gained, like, 30 pounds on chubby hubby alone. Is that damn cool? A pint a night, a pint of ice cream every night, babe of chubby hubby. It was so good. And I regret nothing. I'm going home and trying to immediately. It's amazing. It's always out. I love having you on the show. What are you are just a ball, honey? Oh, thank you. Well, I guess I'm going to give you my phone and breakfast and we'll see if I find your ball. Is the AC on? I'll see your Sharon answers. Is the AC on? She's going to be like, wow, pop the burger. Did we hug? Yeah. Oh, we got a hug, though. We got a prank. Oh. Whether you're moving through grief, chasing a dream, figuring out love or just trying to find your light, there's something in Bob's journey for all of us. I mean, he's an example that humor and heart can coexist and that relationships don't have to follow any rules to be real. 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