Get 10x More Testimonials! Copy This Automated System For More Sales
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The transcription emphasizes the necessity of systematically collecting testimonials to build social proof in a skeptical digital marketplace. It argues against ad-hoc methods, advocating instead for an automated "testimonial machine" triggered at key moments: when customers share wins in communities, hit completion milestones (like 30% of a course), or achieve results. This system involves sending automated, personalized emails with short, psychologically designed surveys. These surveys remind customers of their progress, highlight the value gap before and after the program, and make feedback easy to provide through click-based questions, ultimately generating more authentic and enthusiastic testimonials. The process includes storing testimonials securely, obtaining permission, and editing out private details to maintain credibility without overwhelming the customer. The speaker also promotes their own tools and courses, illustrating how such systems drive business growth and customer retention.
So collecting testimonials, how on earth do we do that? Because we know it's important to live in a world where we're all more skeptical than we've ever been. And we want to see other people who've gone through that person's coaching program, gone through that course, gone through that membership and had success before we want to get into it. And the same is true for your audience. When more skeptical than ever, we don't know what to believe this year. We're like, what's real? What's not real? So we've got to be collecting testimonials. But the problem is if you don't automate and systemize the way you collect your testimonials, you are not going to have anywhere near the amount of social proof you could be having. People ask me, how do I have this wall of testimonials for my products and services? It's because we have a systematic way. If I just left this down to chance, if I left it down to when I remember or when we run a testimonials campaign, then we wouldn't have anywhere near that. And we want to strike and get those testimonials when people are excited, when their emotions are highest, because that's when they gave the best testimonials. So today I'm going to show you my entire systematic way of collecting testimonials the same way I have done it to build a multimillion dollar business selling courses and coaching and services. Right. Let's do that. Let's press the magic button and play the cool video. Welcome, welcome, welcome, by the way, I'm releasing a brand new video like this more than once a week now. I've just opened my game multiple times a week. So if you haven't already, make sure you hit subscribe so that when a new one of these videos releases, it pops up in your fees. Also, when you subscribe, but let's me know that you're enjoying this kind of content and I'll keep making more of it. Also, I just got finished making this new course, this one right here. It's called email marketing sorted, it's all about the three psychological principles that I used to turn one of my offers from $27,000 into over half a million dollars in sales. It's amazing, right? And I want to give it to you for free. Just go to email marketing sorted.com or click the link in the description and you can get the whole of email marketing sorted completely for free. So let's get into this. So I'm going to bring up my handy dandy, what is this called, iPad thing and show you the whole process that we're going to go through. So before we get into this diagram, let me tell you the first thing you have to realize when you're going to build a testimonial machine, which is what this thing is here, you have to realize that you need to systemize the whole thing. Now I am dyslexic and my handwriting is terrible, but that's what we're going to do. We're going to systemize the whole thing. The big question when it comes to testimonials is when do you ask for them? As I mentioned just before, the big really important thing is you have to do this when someone's got enough information that they can actually truthfully gloat about how good your program is. That's when you have to ask them. There's a couple of ways of realizing that. So the first thing you can do, we'll call this A, because we've already done a number one over here, A is when they share something. So let's say you've got some kind of community, maybe you've got a school group, we've got a free Facebook group called the email marketing show community, which I know a lot of you are members of. It's free. The email marketing show community. But also in members group, so that's for people who are in my membership program. And whenever somebody comments in there, one of my assistants jobs as the community manager is to look for people saying something cool, having a win, sharing a win, sharing some praise, and to literally see that post, so there's their post there with their lovely little face there, and their lovely first name and last name, and their lovely words. And their job, my assistants job, every week when they're going in and managing the, managing the group, is to screenshot that post, they're going to do a bunch of things, they're first of all, they're going to screenshot it. The second thing they're going to do, and by the way, if you don't have an assistant, this could be you, because you're already in there admitting your groups, right? They're going to screenshot it right there and then don't think, oh, I'll grab that later. Do it right there and then screenshot it, that goes and saves it in a folder. Secondly, you're then going to ask the person's permission, hey, thank you so much. I would love it if I could use this in my marketing, is that okay with you? They reply, yes, awesome. The last thing we're going to do is we are going to slightly edit it. And when I say edit, they're always going to do, is we're going to go into the post and we are going to cross out or blur out this person's last name. The only reason we do that is because we don't want this poor person who's having a great time with your program, who's been absolutely lovely and shared lovely thoughts about how great they thought you were. And we don't want them suddenly getting bombarded by potential customers, hundreds of them maybe saying, hey, did you really enjoy Kennedy's course? Hey, did you really enjoy Kennedy's course? I don't want to put that on to them. So we leave their photo in because we want people to see it's a real person. We'll leave their first name in because it makes them human. And of course, we leave in all of the lovely words they said. We might redact anything that's not relevant or like, doesn't make any sense or an additional point. That kind of thing. So that's the first thing is when they share something. The second when is when they when they complete something. And that might be inside of your program. So for example, we have a program called our automated email engine. That's our main flagship program. And it has as major part of it, it's videos that walk everyone through the process, like a coaching program, but where you get to do it at your own pace. So it's got a series of videos. So let's imagine when somebody gets 30% of the way through your program, you could apply an attack into your CRM system that says, this person just got 30% of the way through 30% of most programs is enough for someone to see, I can see how this works, all the pieces are coming together, I can see that I like it or don't like it, they get a real vibe for it. That's a good point because they're still in the midst of it. What you don't want to do is wait until someone's completed, of course, because unfortunately, the data shows that less than 10% of people actually watch every single video, do every single task and complete every single part of every single course. They just don't do it, including me when I buy programs, right, I just bought a program last week and I was studying it. It was actually about YouTube stuff, because I'm obviously working really hard on this stuff, and I haven't completed it, but I've got the bits that need out of it. So don't wait until the person's completed the course. In fact, really good course creators and coaches are making their courses so that somebody can get more than their money's worth, get significant value and great results just by completing 30% of it, the first 30% of it. If you're not doing that, I had to recommend you do, you'll get better results for your clients. That's what we do, okay? So when they complete things, it might be that they, when they complete a certain module or they complete a certain task, right? It might be that for part of the program, they have to complete like a little form where they submit some work or they submit their results, okay, or they submit a test or a quiz. That's another way you could then tag your CRM system to, when I say we're going to tag your CRM system, we're basically going to kick off the automated testimonial machine, which we're going to get into in a second, right? That's going to trigger that machine. The final option is when they actually get results. So if you've got a way of collecting people's results, and so for example, let's say you taught YouTube, like some of our clients do, like they teach you how to grow on YouTube, you might be collecting their views, you might be collecting how many videos they've posted. If you teach social media, you might, you might be collecting how many posts they've made, they might be collecting how many followers they're getting or how many views their wheels are getting. So if you're collecting some kind of results again, when they achieve those results, that's when you're going to apply the tag or whatever to trigger this automation, that's going to send out because that's the really important thing. Notice, this is all systematic. Every time you're in the group and they share something, you're going to follow this process. This bit here is an automated system, and so is this piece automated and automated when they complete certain things or they get results. The reason these things need to be systematic is if they're not, you are going to miss out on so much of that amazing social proof. So have a folder on your shared drive or somewhere that you can get access to with all of your screenshots of your testimonials, have a place, you're storing all of this information. So what is this automated machine? So let's say somebody's shared these nice things, they've achieved these things, they've completed something, they've got results, we now are going to trigger an automation. The automation is going to start off with an email, okay, and you're going to send a couple of these emails that go out and they basically say, hey, first name, I hope you're enjoying program name. So in my case, it's called automated email engine, I'm collecting a little feedback. Here is a short questionnaire, I can't really spell question there, I don't write survey, never say survey, people don't want to fill out surveys, right, because surveys sound like long boring things. Ideally, if you know how many questions you're in your survey, so in my case, there are eight, a short eight question questionnaire, so be specific there, something, know what's on the other side of the click, because if you say it's a short survey, it might be 32 questions, let them know. It's just eight questions, oh, and someone's reading that email and thinking, oh, I've got time to answer eight questions real quick, okay, it'll take, and give them an estimation, it'll take maybe five minutes max, it'll let me see how you're getting on. Notice I'll say, see how you're getting on, I don't say how you've done, because not the other objection to fill out the survey, a bit of feedback like this, is going to be, oh, I haven't completed the course yet, or I haven't gone through all the coaching yet, or I've got lots more stuff to do inside the membership, so it's still. We want them to realize that's okay, because we know that most people don't actually make it all the way through, so we don't want that being an objection to them, oh, I'll do it later when I have completed it, that will kill it. And then we're going to have a link, all right, what we're going to link to, I'm going to send basically a few reminders of this, the reminders are going to basically say, what I'm going to say, I'm closing up, basically like a launch, right, I'm closing up the survey, well, actually, don't say so, the questionnaire, the feedback tonight, could you make time, could you make time to do it tonight before we close up, that'll be great, so give them a reason to do it now, okay, then we're going to go into the questionnaire, let me just change screen, so you can see this a little easier, take that one away, hopefully, you'll be able to see this, there we go, there's a good one. So I've built this using response suite, I think it's the best survey building platform there is, and in fact, I say that because biased, I built it, and I built it to be the best survey platform around, so that's what we're going for. So let's get into this very first question, and it says, let me just be long-screen, there you go, before joining, you see the psychology that's built into this, right, and this is how we're going to collect these testimonials, I want to show you how you turn these into testimonials in a second, right, before joining an automated email engine, how much will you enjoy that your email marketing, and then they're going to rate it from one star to five stars, okay, let's say they choose five stars, hopefully they will, right, that will be great. Why are we doing that? The reason we're doing this, there's not by accident, the psychology of this question is, we want them to remember what it was like before they joined their program. It's very difficult for any of us to really appreciate what we've been through unless we can remember what it was like before. So that's what we're going to do, we're going to remind them, how much were you enjoying it beforehand? Oh, not very much, okay, so in this case what we actually want is somebody not to say five stars beforehand, they were actually only enjoying it one star or two stars, something like that. Great. So when they're basically saying, remember it was worse before, because until someone has shown that gap, they are, they find it very difficult to really emote and clearly see just how great your program is, and I'm going to assume it's great. First, we're going to ask them to tick or check all the things that they were looking for help with when they joined the program. This is for my automated email engine. And here what you're going to do is you're going to list out between six and eight different benefits that are within your program to bring those benefits back up to the surface so they can go, oh, yeah, I do get that. Oh, yeah, I did get that. That is in the program. That's really good because when someone's so busy doing in the doing, that's when they forget how good something is, okay. So that's what we're going to say here, we're going to say, okay, what are the things? So what we're looking for, I was looking for ideas to write in my emails, they're going to check that. That makes me go, oh, yeah, that's in the program, isn't it? The reason we're going to do this, we're going to remind them of all the cool stuff that's in the program that they're now currently taking for granted so that later when we ask them how good the program is, they're going to be like, oh, it's really good. Because it gave me all the things, it actually gives me all the things that I want and what's really nice is this also reduces refunds. It also increases their chance of buying more stuff from you in the future. Just think about that for a second, right? When someone realizes how good the thing they already bought from you is, they are more likely to buy stuff from the future, buy more stuff in the future, buy your next program, join your membership, join that other course, upgrade to a mastermind or something like that. The number one reason people don't do that is because they can't remember the great feeling and the great results they got from the previous thing they just bought from you, all right? So just a good little and a good little site, okay, back to this. So we're going to list them all out and what we're looking for, making more sales from our email marketing, getting more people opening your emails, frameworks that sound like you, not another template, how to talk about your offer in new ways, getting the balance between selling and restoring goodwill with your subscribers, having a complete system designed to take subscribers on a journey that converts and automating the sales in your business. They go through those and they go, yeah, these are some of the things, and they might not have wanted all those things, but at least they're being reminded that they're the things that you have achieved in your program, obviously, you're going to make these things about your program. I've made this about automated email engine. That's the point of the second question. The point of question number three is to ask them, how do they feel about these different particular statements? So I've asked them to just check, and notice, these questions are really easy to answer. They're quick to answer. There's not much typing. In fact, I think there's only one, maybe two, but I think there's one typing question in the entire survey, because I want to make it easy and fast for people to be clicking, not thinking. Think about that. Think about it as clicking, not thinking, because when they're typing, they're having to really engage their brain too much. I want this to be like reflex reaction. So they're going to either answer, not applicable, agree or disagree to each of these statements. Okay? Oh, just messed everything up. There we go. All right. Let's just try and remove some of those, there we go. All right. So the style of the lessons is enjoyable to watch and learn from. So hopefully they're going to think, oh, that's really good. These are, notice how emotional these are. Not just like I made a gazillion dollars, or I'm now, you know, if you're a singing teacher, I've now performed at the Royal Albert Hall or whatever, right? The content is actionable. You're going to literally just list the things you know are true about your program. I'm thinking about my email marketing differently than before. I can say you're imagining myself getting results from this. Notice that is not, I have got a result, because we don't know how much someone is actioned and we don't know how good they are at actioning a thing, right? I enjoy candy's teaching style. Oh, yeah, I do. Or maybe they don't. Maybe they don't. They're horrendous, right? The AI elements really speed everything up, so we talk about speed in this one. This is enjoyment. This is, I can see myself getting results. This is speed here. The content I'm creating sounds like me and my brand. A big objection we have is, you know, in general, in email marketing, most people are selling templates, which means they don't have anything like you, which is just the worst. Our program is designed to overcome that because no one wants that, right? They don't want more, excuse me, they don't want more AI slop. Oh, excuse me about that, little coffin, right? I have had comments on how much better my emails are. This is like the social ego being played, right? And this makes more sales than what I was doing before. Again, they might not have set it lives, they might say no. So we're again, reminding them of the benefit of all this stuff. And then we're going to ask them, is the program good value for money? Not at all, yes, it's worth double. It's worth 10x. When they start committing to one of these, and notice we only give them one, not at all, because how much more than no do you want, really, right? When they do that, the testimonial quality you're going to get later is going to be so much better, because they're now thinking, God, yes, it is worth 10x or it is worth double or it, it really is worth it. It's really, really brilliant. And you are going to get a better testimonial. And two, they are going to feel better about your purchase, about the purchase they made from you. Think about that. We want people to always feel great about what they've bought from us. So help them to realize how good they feel about it. And this is a great way of doing that, okay? Next, we've got two righty questions, I think that might be one or two. One is, what is the best or most valuable thing from the program for you? This gets them typing. Because now, at this point, after we've had them just easily clicking and starting to process, they're now getting excited. So we're going to put a writing question later on in the survey, really good tip for when you're doing surveys, get lots of clicking first, get them warmed up almost. And now they're ready to actually start writing. And they're going to tell you what the most valuable thing for them is. This is going to help them bring that to the surface of how valuable it is. But also, it really helps you with your program and go, oh, this is the thing that everybody loves. So never remove that. Never change it. That's the thing that we should do nothing on. And then you're going to ask, what's one thing we could improve to make it even better? The reason we're doing that, honestly, is for balance. It makes me feel very uncomfortable if we don't ask for some feedback as well. And we can look at what is going to be the balance here. We want them to feel like we're being fair. And then we've got two more questions. We are just rating scales, right? Overall, how would you rate the program? And we've got this between poor and outstanding is my wording I like to use for it, between poor and outstanding, okay? And they just click one of these things. And that's going to be really important in a second. And then the second sort of of these questions, then the final question of the whole survey is, how likely are you to recommend this? And again, hopefully because of what they've just gone through and they've been able to remember. Remember, the reason that most people give less than great feedback is generally because they can't remember just how good the stuff was. So we've helped bring that to the surface. And of course, if there was nothing good to bring to the surface, they would have said, no, not at all. So it's really not misleading at all. It's really important, but we're not misleading here. And again, they're going to, they're going to score you. Let's just say it was nine out of ten or so and that. And then they're going to hit submit. Here's when the magic happens because what's going to happen now is one of two things. If, and again, I love this because you can just do this in response to it. It does it for you when you, if you build your survey on that and you can get a free account and build your own free survey, you just literally use the link that I put in that below is. If they give a low score and I'm counting anything less than seven, right, I'm going to take them to a page that just says, thank you, really appreciate it. And then I'm going to go look at their feedback and that's going to go into my little segment of people I'm going to just take a look into, maybe reach out and see if we can help them some more, say if that's some difficulty, see anything we can do, do some customer service and really help people. But most of the time, most people are going to be like, this was great, right? If they got seven plus in those things, we're going to send them to a page and that page is going to have, thank you, one more thing like Colombo, right? And a video, and on that video, I'm going to be saying, this is awesome, I would really appreciate it if you would give me a video testimonial. And some people will and you're going to make it easy for them to do that, okay? Now there's a few different ways of doing this, but if you can find like a tool like, you can basically say, here's a link to loom to do this. That's the best way generally. It can basically make a loom video and then just send you the link and you can say, here's the outline of a really good, a really good, a really good video testimonial and you can give them a written outline below the video. That's what's really powerful here, give them the written outline. The reason people don't give you video testimonials is because they don't know how to start and they don't know what should be included and what they shouldn't include. So the video, the outline is really, really simple. It's one, high, I'm, and then they basically introduce themselves. You want their location and something specific about them. So in my case, I would want what their business is or something like that or whatever it's going to be. The second thing I'm going to be in that framework is I was struggling, okay. I was struggling. I had tried. I have tried, right? And then why they joined. I joined the email, the automated email engine because I was trying to blah, blah, blah, I thought it was really important too, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. I love it because, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, and if you're thinking about it, I'd say blah, blah, blah, blah, five points. If they hit those five points, you are absolutely golden. You can also ask them if you have a specific story of something that happened as a result of what you've implemented from the program, also tell the story included in that. That is the process, right? What's really cool is only the people who scored highly are being asked to give the testimonial. You're filtering out anybody who needs some customer service help, okay? By doing this, you went with really high quality testimonials because they are primed using a psychologically stacked survey. Without the survey, the people can't remember all the benefits and all the cool stuff inside your program because they're busy doing everything else. That's why we're going to put that survey in the way because it allows you to indirectly remind people and then of all the benefits of all the transformation of all the great stuff that was inside of your program. Here's one final trick that we use when we do this is we will send another email, right? What we've done is you see here inside of the survey, we've asked them what's the most valuable thing, okay? What we do, when a contact completes this survey, we save that in a custom field against their name. So let's say Mary Smith fills out the survey because she's been in the program, she's gone to the automation, we then say she fills out the survey, we have a custom field just like the name field, the address field, the all the different things you can collect about your customers and put them into these things called custom fields in your email platform where you use go high level. And we put a custom field called most valuable thing, so automated email engine A E E most valuable thing and we save this field, whatever they write in here, we save that into that box and then we also save all the things they say that they agreed with from here because that allows us to do the most advanced thing and this is pretty advanced, it's not for everyone, okay? We then send them an email that says hey first name, thanks for the feedback, feed back, it's greater here, that and then we're going to insert the ones they said yes to, that you're enjoying, that you're finding and then you are going to mail merge in that custom field with all of these things they said were true to remind them right there in the email and then I'm going to say and it's great to read your most valuable thing in your words is and then we're going to insert that custom field using their own words all happening automatically all hands off while you're delivering programs helping clients, growing your business, having a holiday with your family, whatever else you happen to be doing, doing another webinar, whatever, doing coaching, I would love and then a video testimonial and then you ask them for that, tell them how to do it, loom video, here's the structure, send them back to this page which gives them the context again as the follow up, using their words that they've typed and the things they've selected in this survey, in custom fields and putting it into remelles to remind them what they said allows you to resurface those thoughts and commitments they made in that in that survey and allows you to represent them back in their emails to remind them of them all makes it easier for them to emote and again to give you these great testimonials the number one reason people don't give testimonials is they don't know what to say they feel like I can't remember all the details was this thing was it that thing this survey brings all of the facts back up to the surface so they can feel confident in giving a testimonial and then you give them the structure to give the testimonial and then once you've got that testimonial you're going to take the video testimonial and you are going to thank them for it and you are going to transcribe it and you are going to grab text from it you're going to use the text version of it you might use the audio version for it in like a podcast or something and you might use the actual video of it on sales pages the video testimonials the most powerful thing because you can repurpose it as video audio and written now there is a point at which some some people maybe 30% of people are going to be like I don't want to do a video I don't want to do a video testimonial that is fine because some people don't like to be on video they don't have a look on video they don't feel confident they've got a good environment or whatever it might be like your niche doesn't isn't really suitable excuse me it's not got this cough isn't really suitable for video that's cool what you do at that point is after you've asked the video testimonial you show up a few days later and say hey you don't have to give me a video testimonial if you could write backward testimonial using this format that would be great I would take your words think of the written testimonial as like the down sell after you've done a good job of following up on the on the video testimonial so I hope you've got that really clear in your mind now of course the thing that we do have to do is make sure you've got something to say in your emails every single time people really struggle with this so I came up with a random story generator that you can use in your emails got the different story for your emails every single time it's really really cool give it a try it's just click on this video right here and try out my random story generator for your emails and I'll see you in the next one.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Testimonials are crucial for building trust and social proof in a skeptical market, but collecting them effectively requires a systematic, automated approach rather than relying on chance or occasional campaigns.
The optimal times to request testimonials are when a customer's emotions are high: when they share positive feedback in a community, complete a significant milestone (e.g., 30% of a course), or achieve measurable results.
An automated "testimonial machine" involves triggering personalized emails with short, psychologically crafted surveys after these key moments, designed to remind customers of their progress and elicit enthusiastic, detailed feedback.
The survey should use strategic questions to highlight the value gap (before vs. after), remind customers of program benefits, and make responding easy (e.g., with clicks, not lengthy typing) to increase completion rates and testimonial quality.
Collected testimonials should be stored systematically, with permission obtained and personal details (like last names) edited out to protect privacy while maintaining authenticity.
Summary:
The transcription emphasizes the necessity of systematically collecting testimonials to build social proof in a skeptical digital marketplace. It argues against ad-hoc methods, advocating instead for an automated "testimonial machine" triggered at key moments: when customers share wins in communities, hit completion milestones (like 30% of a course), or achieve results. This system involves sending automated, personalized emails with short, psychologically designed surveys.
These surveys remind customers of their progress, highlight the value gap before and after the program, and make feedback easy to provide through click-based questions, ultimately generating more authentic and enthusiastic testimonials. The process includes storing testimonials securely, obtaining permission, and editing out private details to maintain credibility without overwhelming the customer. The speaker also promotes their own tools and courses, illustrating how such systems drive business growth and customer retention.
FAQs
Systemizing testimonial collection ensures you capture social proof consistently and efficiently, rather than relying on sporadic efforts that yield fewer testimonials.
Ask for testimonials when clients are most excited, such as after they share a win, complete a milestone (e.g., 30% of a course), or achieve results, as emotions are high and feedback is more authentic.
Use a CRM to trigger automated emails with short questionnaires when clients hit specific milestones, like completing a module or achieving results, making the process scalable and timely.
Keep it concise: mention the program, specify the number of questions and estimated time (e.g., 8 questions, 5 minutes), and reassure them it's okay if they haven't finished the course.
Screenshot positive posts immediately, ask for permission to use them, and edit by blurring last names to protect privacy while keeping the first name, photo, and content intact.
Design questions to remind clients of their pre-purchase struggles and program benefits, using easy click-based responses early on to build momentum before asking for written feedback.
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