This transcription from the Ultimate Human Podcast features host Gary Breckow and guest Gary Line, who discusses fascia—a connective tissue that permeates and connects the entire body. Line explains that fascia is more than a structural element; it serves as a superhighway for minerals, vitamins, and signals, and stores trauma. He challenges conventional views by stating that no bones touch (except teeth, ribcage, and ears), making fascia the true structural support. Reducing friction in fascia through specific maneuvers organizes muscles, tendons, nerves, and bones, enhancing body performance. Line’s journey began in solitary confinement for 17 months, where he learned from a neurologist and chiropractor, leading to his creation of the Human Garage. He emphasizes that trauma is stored physically in fascia, not just mentally, and can be released through compression and counter-rotation techniques. These maneuvers can be self-applied, democratizing healing. The 2017 discovery of the interstitium—a highly receptive fascia-based network—supports this view. Breckow attests to immediate benefits after a short session, including corrected posture and foot arch, and increased energy. Line concludes that instead of adding more to the body, reducing friction allows natural organization and healing.
You can cut every tendon, nerve bone, eyeball. There's only one thing you can't remove from the human body. Fasha. If you can't remove it, that would indicate that we are it. I never have viewed the fascia the way that you view it. In this connective tissue, you view as a superhighway for everything from minerals, vitamins, amino acids, nutrients to the delivery of signals to a place where we actually lock up trauma. What we're doing with fascia maneuvers is reducing the friction. And when we reduce the friction, all those muscles tend to nerves, bones, everything organizes and works better. So that changed my belief system of how to get performance out of the body. It does inherently make a lot of sense that fascia that's connecting everything, which is also a communication system when it gets stressed, that there's some kind of communication pathway that's interrupted there. And I think people can benefit so much. But if you just have minerals and you move your body like fascia, things get better no matter what it is. So in other words, it's within the reach of everybody. Or something that's watching this, what are some basic things that they could do to address their fascia? Well, what we do for you is you don't start off with the problem. You start off with. Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, Human Biologist Gary Breckow, where we go down the road of everything, anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today is one of those in-between podcasts. I don't know if I would put it in the biohacking, longevity, anti-aging category. I'm not sure which category to put it in, but it is massively impactful. I have both experienced it and benefited from it. So has my wife Sage. And also, this is a first in Ultimate Human Podcast history to have someone named Gary on the podcast. Yeah. So welcome to the podcast, Gary Line. You're the original Gary Line. Because you're one or two hour carries. Yeah. Okay, so. But still, I've first carried that I've had on the podcast. Yeah, that's interesting. That's interesting. From a human garage, I think a lot of folks have seen you online. I think the Leanne Rhymes adjustment that you did, the facial release in her jaw, which also released locked trauma, went unbelievably viral. Crazy. Three-quarters of a billion views on 10 days. Congratulations for that. And you know, what I love about this platform is that I get to think, I mean, I get to sit in front of guests that are trendsetters, some that are way outside of the norm, like the thinkers, the doers, the. Sometimes they're PhDs or MDs or researchers that have all of these qualifications. Sometimes they're just somebody that solved a problem in their life. That's me. Yeah. And I know you solved the big problem, right? Yeah. Not many people want to ever solve that problem, but you were in solitary confinement for. 17 months. 17 months. 27 months. Because I encrypted data along story short. I encrypted data for the governments. And well, for everybody. And a lot of government contacts. And contacts are using it. And I decided that I didn't like what was happening. So I basically said the government's spying on you, which everybody kind of knows at this point. And then I just. Or a railway of that. Yeah. But back then nobody was. In 2005. And they came in full force. They gave me two indictments. One as a drug dealer. Drug dealer. Well, because they're using my encrypted blackberries to. to pedal drugs. You know what somebody was. And so they made me a part of that conspiracy. And so 17 months in solitary confinement without going into all the details. That's where my life changed. I had been in the tech business. I had built software. Amazing, incredible things that I had done in my earlier career. Like the first early blockchains. We sold technology to Boeing to do identity and authority. Like the first legally binding signature on the internet. Voice over IP, encrypted technologies. On the cutting edge. But my body was getting worse as I was going from previous injuries. And I finally just crashed. And when I went to prison, it was. That was the end of it. I'd spent two and a half million dollars, 300 practitioners up to that point. And I was getting worse. And then you went into prison and your. Your cellmate was a neurologist. Or a neuroscientist. Yeah, and a chiropractor who became a neurologist. Yeah. And. What did he do, by the way? That time. Seems like a good dude. And sure, and at that time, it was called insurance fraud. You weren't allowed to pay for a marketing agency to get you a client per head. So you could pay a marketing agency, but you can't pay, you know, $500 per lead. And everybody was the government decide to make examples of everybody. I was at this particularly low point. I was in the most pain I'd ever been in. I was in a 10 out of 10 pain. If I could have killed myself, I would have multiple times. But I had no tools. And what was the pain coming from? Is this muscle skeletal pain? Muscle skeletal, emotional pain. I was a bodybuilder, fell under a heavy squad, had a couple car accidents, eight concussions. So I was. It was physical pain. It was emotional pain. It was PTSD. And I was managing it as I was moving along. But now I have no tools. And this is where that journey started. Because as long as I could manage it, I could kind of get through. But now I couldn't. I was laying in there in a 10 out of 10 pain. And I'm not a. I definitely wasn't a praying guy. But one day I was crying and I was. And I was literally breaking down. I said, "Pray to say God, if you help me out of this, I'll spend the rest of my life helping people. Never ever have this pain." And an hour later, my cell door opened crack. And then. And I thought, that's usually not a good sign, just so you know? Oh yeah. Yeah, they're going to do something to you. Right. And they stuffed this old guy in. And he was a chiropractor who became a neurologist. And he, for the next 14 months, he first of all, he adjusted me right away. And I had 24 hours a day for 14 months of somebody teaching me and talking to me. And talking to me about the body. And I'd learned a lot because I'd already been studying, trying to solve my own issue. But this is what put that pin in it allowed me to actually take all those things that I learned and put them into some sort of practice. So you're in there for seven, and well not. 17 months, 27 months total. With him. Well, 14 months with him. Wow. 24 hours a day, basically seven days a week, you get to be. Yeah, I mean, it's a pretty good education. Yeah. Because the guy's scared, his life's changing. And he has nothing he just wants to talk. And I'm just listening. And listening, watching, understanding, it's a very compressed education. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you get. Well, I mean, I think most education comes from the real world experience. I mean, very little, I think of what we learn in textbook translates directly into real life. I think you prove that you can follow a set of rules and you can complete assignments on time and you're reliable and you can handle a certain workload. I think so. That kind of civ is excellent. And the education. I'm not knocking the education, but when you emerge, you mean, you get your real world experience in the real world. Yeah, for sure. If you take a look at somebody who's spent, you know, five years studying about medicine. And. But he's never done a surgery. Right. But he knows everything about it. Or you have somebody who's done 10,000 surgeries. You know, like. But. Which one do you want to work with you? Right. The old surgeon or the. The new one. And there's. There's a. You know, just like in your life and what you've done, it's trial and experience, end of one science. Right. When the need is great enough, we'll just step in and do it. And if it worked for me, maybe it would work for you. And that was the whole thought process around it. Yeah. So you get out and eventually there's leads to you starting something called the human garage. Yeah. I love that term, by the way. I think that's really cool. Like, you know, we park a lot of valuable things in our garage. We don't think about parking ourselves in there. Right. So I think it's a great name. I don't know what gave the rise to it. Well, we were in Venice, California. And my wife, Anela, and myself, we actually started doing therapy in the garage. Mm-hmm. And we moved into an apartment. And we, we at that time, we were, I was still part of a previous clinical practice that I was working with. I was in the garage trying to figure out the solution. And we were working on people. And we would work on literally, we would work on people from 6am to 10pm at night. We took all the furniture out of the two bedroom apartment. And we just started seeing people. And what was happening, which you could only do in Venice, California. We had like celebrities, a Brandon Roth, and Kitty Lotz, and DC Comic Heroes. We had all these athletes and celebrities who had found us because we were experimenting and trying stuff and it worked. And LA is just that vibe. You couldn't do it here in the morning. I mean, only in LA can you open a practice in your garage, fresh out of prison, and be successful. So that's exactly. I'm like, look in at your marketing campaign. Felling fresh out of prison opens practice in his garage. Right. Yeah, see if you can flood it with people. But you're, your trajectory has been amazing. We run in a lot of the same circles. And one of the reasons why I was intent about having you on the podcast is because, first of all, I hadn't never experienced anything directly until today, which was phenomenal. And I'll post the, I'm going to put these videos into the podcast notes. And I really encourage you to watch those because,
is I have had a lot of very intelligent, very impactful people sitting at sea right there, but none have been able to make the kind of change that he was able to make anatomically on me in five minutes. I mean, literally fixed a, I mean, decades old flat arch that I had in my foot, five-year-old shoulder rotation issue that I have done, acupuncture, dry kneeling, physical therapy, shockwave, PEMF, high intensity PEMF, red light, hyperbarics. I mean, you name it. I have access to all of those tools and all of those practitioners and you realigning the fascia. - Well, actually, I wanna just step in there for a second. - Yeah. - You actually did it. - Yeah, you taught me how to do it. - That's the point. The point was that when I was in pain, I no longer wanted to feel helpless, even if I won't clinic, if I would work all day, I would get just three to five times a week by some sort of therapy in my clinic, but there's some days I'd go home at night and I'd be in pain. And I have to wait till the next morning. I would literally be thinking about the next morning, waiting for a chiropractor or therapist to come in. I'd have it all planned, to slip in the schedule before anybody else, and get it, and my mind was obsessed with trying to feel okay. But I felt guilty and I felt helpless because I had to depend on somebody else. And all that time that you spent with really good people, and it's not diminishing their work, it's something that you can do yourself, and if you do that yourself, they can go on to help at higher level issues. - Right. Well, and so I wanna take this conversation back to the fascia because I went to chiropractic college, I graduated from National College Chiropractic, that's where I got my second degree in biology. I got a four year degree in human biology. I never practiced as a chiropractor. - So, yeah, yeah, National College Chiropractic in Lombard, Illinois. And it was great. - I went to the School of Prison Chiropractic. - Yeah, yeah. (laughing) - For mind, but yeah. But you know what, what they did, an extraordinary good job, and National is known for this, was anatomy. You know, physical anatomy, gross anatomy, we had nine hours of cadaver anatomy a week, for almost two years. I mean, it was highly, highly, highly focused around the details and anatomy. So, I have a fundamental understanding of fascia and connective tissue and ligaments, tendons, bones, joints, what have you, you know, very strong understanding of, you know, spinal anatomy. This connective tissue, you view as a super highway for everything from minerals, vitamins, amino acids, nutrients to the delivery of signals to a place where we actually lock up trauma. - Sure. - I think myself included, and probably the vast majority of people watching this podcast think trauma is in your head. - Right. - I'm not saying trauma doesn't exist 'cause that term gets used loosely. You say, "Oh, it's all in your head," and that's a considered derogatory. I don't mean it that way, but it is somewhere in your brain and therapy or drugs or what have you. And Iowaska trip is there to unlock that. But philosophically, you believe that the body also stores trauma and the fascia. - Yeah, and I'd love for you to, maybe even just give us a basic understanding of what fascia is. - So fascia, it's interesting because from a biological standpoint, it's a connective tissue, it connects everything. We used to think it was around everything and connecting it, but it actually goes through it. So I'm a problem solver and two systems solver. So technology is one of my things. When you wanna find a bug in a system, you go to the origin, the creation, the kernel, and then you see how it's used. So if we go to the creation of a human, we start to look at the body a different way. When a baby's born, there's a ball of plasma, and there's two nerve clusters, and those two nerve clusters are connected by a string. And no doctor or scientist, anybody can tell you which one, until the seventh week, which one's gonna be the small intestine, which one's gonna be the brain. So it's interesting, and then the heart forms. The heart and the small intestine in Chinese medicine are connected. So then the whole muscle skeletal system goes around it. So what is that stuff, that plasma? I consider that to be your fascia. So we're grown in fascia. And then since you've done a lot of dissections, think about this way. You can cut every tendon, nerve bone, eyeball, everything out, you can cut everything out of human body. Fascia. If you want protein to build lean muscle, but without the caloric impact or need to cut, you need perfect amino. 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We just found a pilot and a ran based on a technology that could read his heart signature. That's right. Through the field. Yeah, and the Pentagon was very disappointed that that actually made it out into the public. Yeah, that's a good example. So what is the mechanism powerful? When somebody walks in a room and you feel they're angry. Like even they walk in and say, whoa, and you turn around. What gets your biology to turn around? Something is informing you. It's not an odor or a pheromone or a chemical reaction in your body. Something informed you to take an action. Are you duck? All of a sudden when something's thrown at you. And you're not even aware it's there. You see baseball players go like that sometimes to catch something. Yes. So there's something that extends past the body that informs the body, usually moments of safety. And that, I consider that to be the field of the fascia that's informing your nervous system how to act. And I also want to give you another thought in reorganization. For me to think about this way, I had to reorganize the body. I had to take it apart, put it back together another way. So I looked at it and said, well, look at your bones, which are supposed to be our structure. None of the bones in the body touch, except for the teeth, the ribcage, and the ears. Any other bone touches you're in pain. Bone on bone. So if the bones aren't touching, then what is the structure? Because structure has to touch. So take the knee, for example. Here's your knee joint. You have one muscle cross, is it about that big? What holds up the knee? It's not the muscle. It's two, the bones don't, they're not touching. Can't be the muscle. The meniscus of terror. So the only two things you're left with is connective tissue and skin. So what if connective tissue was a structure? And if that's a structure, then bones, tendons, nerves, organs exist in that structure. Yes. And then we found out in 2017, in the middle of the clinical practice, 'cause we had this belief system, but we didn't know how to talk about it. We found out that the fascia has a brain called an interstitium. That interstitium is millions of times more receptive than our human brain. Tens of millions, hundreds of millions. So this is where it starts to get messy, because it crushes on the current belief system of our bodies are organized. So I reorganized the body and said, well, what if fascia was the key component? And what if it did everything? And could I prove that? And as a totally, like, I'll tell you right now, there's not a lot of science behind what we're doing. It's happening right now, because we have, so we're doing 50 and 80 million people doing this every day, around the world. And we have millions of doctors that prescribe it every day, practitioners, doctors, chiropractors, massage therapists, even down to emotional therapists. So there has to be something there, and it's working, but we're still learning the language of why it's working. And, but what we do know is we know that if we compress the fascia and we counter-rotate it, what you were doing with you earlier-- - Which was incredible, by the way. Immediately, again, I'm gonna put the videos in the podcast. And I'm not making this up. You know, I wouldn't pay you this compliment if it didn't actually work for me in real time. It corrected my posture, I put torn bias up tendon, I talked about it a lot in the podcast and struggled with for a long time. It corrected an arch in my foot and corrected my hip and just
walking around afterward, it felt immediately better. My wife said the same thing, Sage. - And also extremely energetic. - Yes, oh yeah, like, I don't wanna say euphoric, but clear and wide awake. And just alert, like my brain turned on all of a sudden. No question. - So this is where we were going because originally this thought process we used in our clinic with all these super high elite, like Olympic level athletes, like Tyson Gay and Andre Ethier. And now you've got guys like Novak, Jokovic and stuff like that using this thought process. And still, again, it's still new. We know it works. We're learning why it works. But what if the current thought of how to make the body perform better is to pour more on, more power, more performance, more hormones. What if instead of pouring more on, we just reduce the friction. - Yeah. - And so what we're doing with fashion maneuvers is reducing the friction. And when we reduce the friction, all those muscles tend to nurse bones, everything organizes and works better. So it changed my belief system of how to get performance out of the body. - Yeah. And the way that you get performance out of the body and see some of these results is by realigning it. And like, I've done rolting. I've done myo-facial release. I've done all of these different modalities to align or release the fascia. And very often they've been successful. I know that when it folds over on itself, it can restrict mobility. And if you lengthen it, you can restore that mobility. I think chiropractors generally do that. - Yeah, I mean, they definitely do. - But what I find really fascinating about your work is that you believe that it is much more than connective tissue. That neural communication is happening through this connective tissue, and that hormone regulation, that emotional regulation, and that you can unlock things like stored drama from the fascia. And I've seen it so many times in your videos, and I know so many people that I hold in high regard that have experienced it with you, that I tend to believe it, even though I don't understand the mechanism. Right? And I'm like, and I'm not just that, and that drives me crazy too, because, you know, as a human biologist, I have to know the why. Before I got into red light bed, I mean, I read about the Cytocromesiaxidase dissociation of mitochondrial nitric oxide. I went to eat down the rabbit hole of mitochondrial respiration. But it inherently makes sense to me, because I'm familiar with, you know, how my collapse starts led to a medial knee pain, led to lateral hip pain, led to anteriorial pain. - Sure. - Right? And I understand this biometric chain, and some people might not accept it if my foot collapses, my shoulder hurts. But that's how it works. And this works in this bind too. But to go a layer deeper and say, there's more than just structure and stability here. There's communication. There's hormones, there's emotional trauma, there's all kinds of things in this fascia. I wonder if you might just touch on that for a bit. - Let's go to the trauma angle for a bit. So what is trauma? When I started in clinical practice, people would say, there's trauma and they go, I didn't go to war. I wasn't at least. - Yeah, a lot of people would say that too. I wasn't abused as a child. I don't remember anything. I grew up in a, you know, I didn't have an alcoholic parent or a abusive parent. You know, that's what I think what we think trauma is. - Right, and today's world, well, except for our kids, our kids are like, I got trauma from you saying that. - Oh yeah, yeah, triggered. Now, Gen Z years grew. You guys are soft. (laughing) I'm just kidding. I've got four of them, so I'm very careful. So the idea of trauma from my point of view, and I'll just share what I found to be true for myself, is that you have an incident, something that happens. Physical, emotional, perceptual. We know it doesn't really matter at this point. That can create a trauma stored in our system. So we got an incident. We got an emotion that's about it. Anger, fear, shame, guilt, sad to something. And then we have a story that we talk about it. We tell ourselves. So think about it as a triangle. And currently in removing trauma, we go to a therapist to tell a story. Try to tell a new story. And I do. But then it's then also, and I get somebody triggers my emotions, and move from back to the old story. Or I go do a emotional reset, yelling scream, and punch things, and I feel really good. But then also my body's in pain, and my hormones go up. My brain starts to then start to tell a story again. So what we found is that we had to remove the memory of that in the body. So think about words that we use phonetically, like to remember. So we, memory, think of the body as a computer, and the brain not as a computer, the brain as a processor runs programs. And if it can't figure out the program, it just keeps running. That's the circular thoughts. That's not an intelligent action. That's an unintelligent action. And it keeps trying to figure it out, even if I can't forever and ever and ever. So then if the body is a computer, think about the word remember. If you're from a biological standpoint, you would dismember something. You'd be cutting the body in pieces. If you're to remember, you're pulling the pieces back together, and then perceiving them or looking at them. So I believe the memory is actually in the body. It's a feeling, and it's associated with a feeling. And then we tell ourselves a story about that feeling. 'Cause somewhere along the line that can change, and this is what happens with so many has trauma, like they were abused. I was sexually abused by parents. And somewhere around 53, I had an emotion come up while I was doing fashion work. And then I literally was able to tell myself a new story. And a pattern that was in my system, I didn't even know was there, it just changed, it was like my life changed. And we found that we have to have all three of those involved in removing a trauma. And what is a trauma? Again, it's really just that incident, that's stressful, that I can't resolve. The circle doesn't complete. And when the circle completes, the body seems to be the last one. That's why everybody's moving towards embodiment programs, right? - Yeah, very true. And where did you gain this fundamental understanding on how to train people to release that themselves? Because again, what I'll give you credit for is, you didn't put me in these positions, you had me put myself in these positions, and I released it myself. - There's a couple of things about that. So a practitioner who's worked on tens and tens of thousands of people, what I know that if your body gets the relief from a movement, that's a chemical release in your body, like relief. - Yeah. - And you're gonna get serotonin oxytocin, dopamine's gonna-- - I got it, yeah. - Now, if you did it at my hand, you're always gonna believe your nervous system that I did it. - Right. - You're always gonna seek and crave my hand to do it, which is very, very addictive. And it also creates a dependency between a practitioner and a patient. But if you are the one participating in it, and I'm just assisting you, it changes the relationship in our nervous system. It seems to, that we have some hand in doing it, we're a part of it. It's like teaching somebody, they don't do it for them. I help them, I get them to do it or help them. So it's like teaching your body or your nervous system, how to move through that, and then the belief is there. And if that belief is there, then you can go do it all by yourself. You don't need me. - And what it will say is, I've had plenty of adjustments too. And this was not like having a cervical spin maneuver or a low back spin maneuver, or even like attraction kind of adjustment. There was no cracking, there was no zero pain. It actually felt kind of good. You know that kind of stretching pain that actually has a little bit of pain, but it's got the good kind of pain. When you're stretched out, and then when you stop, you feel better. - Exactly. - That's what I would like in it too. Pain never went above a two. But the relief was a ten. Which I found fairly gentle intervention for a pretty demonstrative outcome. - Listen, there's what I share on this podcast, and then there's what I share with my inner circle. If you've been following me for a while, you know how I hold nothing back here. But my VIP community, that's where the real magic happens. 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It's like having a personal health advisory board for less than $100 a month. Your health is your wealth, and this investment pays dividends for life. Join the VIP community at theultimatehuman.com/vip and step into your ultimate potential. So in mechanics and performance, the least amount of input for the greatest result. And that's like, I look at things from a system point of view. I'm very practical driven like an engineering mind. I'm not an engineer by trade, but it doesn't mean I don't have the mind that works like that. The least amount of input for the highest gain is what the body wants, because the body wants to participate. And if I do too much, the body just goes, "Okay, you got it. I'm going to go over and do something else." Yeah. So along this journey, you. I mean, I know that this has been a learning curve for you, because you didn't step out and gain this knowledge. What was the thing that surprised you the most? What was that like, "Carry Mason moment?" Well, to that moment. It came out when we were in clinic, we were trying to. I was trying to figure out how to help myself. I was like, literally in the shower one night, in pain after working on people. They longed for 15 people a day. I'm not feeling good. I'm in the. And I'm heads down, I have my hands behind me. It's our movement called "Andy Gravity" today. And I was trying to stretch out an area of my back. And at that moment, I was down in the shower, in the water's trickling down to me. And I had like a psychedelic, cathartic memory that wasn't really a memory. It was more like a witnessing of something. And I can't really explain it other than that moment is where I knew that the answer to my issue was not through the hands of somebody else, through my own hands. And that was the wake-up. And then it turned into a couple of movements that we would give to people or pro athletes to help them. We found that if we could counter-rotate because you know us for doing this counter-rotation. Counter-rotation seemed to do this. And again, we didn't know why. And I have a belief about it today. And I'll tell you everything I'm telling you right now. I have a belief about it and I have a story about it. But I'm completely okay if everything I say to you today is bullshit. I hope not. Because in five to. You know, every year, I'm learning more every day. So in five years we're going to look back at that and go, "Man, that was stupid." But it allows us to have a conversation about it. And so what it feels like it's happening is that counter-rotated hugging yourself is actually a fetal position. And it looks like a fetal position. And it seems that cells have memory. We have a lot of science to say that. And it seems like when we're in that position they know how to reorganize themselves. That's what it seems like. Yeah. So you have these different positions for somebody that's watching this. Maybe they think this sounds hokey, but for somebody that's watching this, what are some basic things that they could do to address their fascia or even address tight spots on their body? Because everybody watching has something. Nehip, shoulder, rotator, cough, low back, cervical, something. Well, what we do for you is you don't start off with a problem. You start off with a globe, something global. To decompress the pressure that's in the fascia. So what we've noticed is that pressure impedes performance. Whether it's a muscle performance or nerve performance, any kind of performance, if you have dysregally a pressure in an area, it impedes that performance. Like your elbow swells up. All of a sudden you can't move it. So fascial maneuvers in the global sense decompress the body. They seem to move pressure around the body in a way that the body can recalibrate. We have a 15-minute stress reset. And you can go do that. In 15 minutes, the first seven to ten minutes of that 15 minutes, it drops no matter how you measure it, it drops 75 to 90% of the stress in the human body. Wow. And you feel it because you felt it out there. I felt it immediately. But I'm not a high stress person. But the other version of not having the stress is the euphoria. That would that, I definitely felt. Yeah, so more alertness. When I'm not stressed, I have more alertness, more command of my environment around me. And so what we found is that if we could get somebody, instead of doing a whole practice and learning this, and learning all the different possible ways, start of me and everything else. Start off with 15 minutes, do a stress reset. It resets your shoulders, your hips, your back, your spine, your neck. Your whole nervous system gets reset in that first for 15 minutes. If that works for you, do it again. Yeah, if it works for you, do it again. And again, and what we found is that when we add just that into everybody's routine, things change very fast. And then if you want to go down a rabbit hole, there's all kinds of resets. Or every body part you can imagine, every condition you can imagine, like with Leanne, we were having your open up or vocal cords so she could sing easier. All the way down to back when I worked with Tommy Armer, that one that you did earlier, it's called Swinger. It looked like I was about to sing a golf club. It was invented for me trying to help Tommy Armer, the golfer. And so these are all things where you can go specific if you want. But we recommend that you start off globally, start off something very simple, something that you can repeat the action. So these are, by the way, can I put a link to this in the show now? Sure. So everybody will get this for free and they'll be able to go through this 15 minute. Actually, that's a, that's something that we don't talk about all that often. But 95% of everything we have is free. I don't take a solid, I read that about your philosophy. I don't take a solid read. I don't own a home. I don't have credit cards. I don't have drivers lessons. How do you get on an airplane? Oh, I use a passport. I have a passport and a certificate. And for me, I want to step outside. And the point about it was, as I found a solution, and we are currently growing by about a million half people a month right now that are practicing. And it's growing like well-fire because what we ask in return for doing it free is to share it with other people. And that's why it's this worldwide phenomenon, the growth of it. It's because people are helping people and I think that comes back to, you know, naturally people do want to help people. Yes, they just need a way to do it. And so, yes, almost everything and what we do is we sell some supplements. We have some guided programs that you can donate. And our programs, most of the guided ones are pay what you feel right. Pass a dollar, pass $250, pass a thousand dollars. And the idea is we believe in the principle that the community will support the community. And because of that, I believe that's why we also have gotten a lot of good press because we're doing things that will truly help people. Yeah. And when you decided that, I'm just going to give this all the way through this ripple effect, which I love because I started with the platform. It's very hard. I started my media platform with the sole intention of giving without the expectation of receipt. And as soon as you package information or go to give something, you immediately have an expectation of receipt. That's been there's always an issue. Yeah. So today, free cost us $500,000 a month. So we have like 70 people. We've got thousands of volunteers all around the world. We've been on a world tour. We did in the last two years, since I even saw you, I haven't been home. And we've done 13 countries, 36 cities, 85 events between 510,000 people. And we were out there on this mission just to get it out there. And the reason why it was freeze because I spent millions and millions and millions of dollars trying to solve my own issue. And when I could solve it myself, I was just angry at the system that was teaching me that I needed somebody else. So at the time, I'm like, no, I'm going to make it free to everybody. But we had to learn along the way how to balance that, how to receive as well. And so that's been part of the journey. Yeah, I'm going to try this 15 minute reset because what you did for me in 5 or 10 minutes had such a profound impact in a short period of time. What would be astounding is if this was a mechanism to de-stress the body to help people go from that sympathetic fighter flight state into that parasympathetic rest and digest state. Because there is clear evidence, very clear evidence that when you are stuck in that sympathetic state, that fighter flight state, which the vast majority of us spend way too much time or on an economic nervous system spends too much time in that state. When you're stuck there, chronic stress, poor sleep, poor diet, you know, overworked, just too much on your plate, too, too type A, if you want to say that. This has direct impact on our immune system. It has a direct impact on our emotion and our emotional intelligence, meaning how well we're able to regulate how we react to things, other people's actions. And our mood amongst a whole host of other things. And, you know, I use breathwork morning, morning light grounding, you know, in some of the biohacking modalities, but breathwork sunlight grounding those are daily stables for me. For me, hydrogen, Sun, red light or sunlight. You're a fan of hydrogen. I love that. I have a hydrogen bath in my, yeah, I carry a machine around me a travel. You do? And red light. I carry the hydrogen tablets. I use everyday. And that's the inhalation machine that, right? Yeah, it stops protein folding issues in the body. And it's a structured water kind of mist. It is. But it literally reorganizes the proteins inside the cell. So it's way more powerful than it looks where they say. So I believe in things that impact
just like you do, environment, water, light, sound. And I incorporate those with our team daily. Those are just things that are just a part of how we live our life today. - Yeah, I mean, those are what I call passive biohacks, right? If you upgrade your lighting, your water, your mattress, your air filtration, those are things that you do once and then they kind of serve you without taking more time from your-- - Yes, everything else that I do, hyperbarics, red light, sauna, those all, you've got to find time in your day to fit those. - Sure. - But what is amazing, and I talk about this all the time, is nothing makes me feel better. Then putting on a weight vest with my wife and going for like a three and a half mile loop in the mountains in my, through this woods and over these rocks of my wife and I do and Colorado at about 10,000 feet. Every time I get back, I just feel like, I don't know, I've had this spiritual awakening or took a limitless pill or there's the lights are just on and I'm in a good mood and I don't feel this impetus to immediately do something. As soon as I land back in Miami, it's like that fire lights again and it's like the productivity, demand kicks back in. And I think people can benefit so much by just drawing their attention and making a part of their daily routine things that can alleviate that stress and maybe shift them out of that person at that state. - Yeah, and you do breath work. So the difference is, think about this as intention, breath work, movement, all in one simple, quick movement. And in order to get people to adopt it, it had to be quick and simple. And you don't have to even do the whole 15 minutes. You do one of the movements, like you did the very first one and all of a sudden, "Whoa, I feel it." So if you only had three minutes and you did that in between your appointments, you would infinitely be better than the day 'cause stress as you know is accumulative. And our body accumulates a stress and then over a period of time, that 28-day cycle, what we found is the stress habit cycle is 28 days. And we have a 28-day reset where we take people through online and we get them to do a little bit each day. And on the 28-day, everybody has a catholic drop because they disrupt that habit cycle 'cause we get stressed throughout the day, then we go to sleep to remove it. And the body constantly saves the energy for that stress. Like we didn't give you any energy tablets or anything, but you have more energy after that. - Right. - That means that what I believe is that we took away restriction or fascia, your body says, "Oh, I need less energy to move, "think, walk, dock, breathe." So I'm gonna give you that energy back in the form of an enhancement. That's what it appears to be doing. - You know I'm all about optimizing performance. And lately, I've been using the ion weighted vest during my workouts and it's been a game changer. It isn't your average weighted vest. It's designed to fit like a second skin, activating your core and proving blood flow and even helping you with recovery while you train. What I love most is that the weight is perfectly distributed. It doesn't pull on your shoulders or throw off your alignment whether I'm doing strength training or cardio or just taking a walk, I'm burning more calories, building muscle and pushing my endurance even further. If you're serious about leveling up your training and unlocking your full potential, check out the ion weighted vest at iongear.com. That's a-i-o-n-gear.com. And you can use code Ultimate for 10% off and start training smarter today. - Yeah. And I think that low level chronic stress is one of the most debilitating things to our cellular biology. - Absolutely. So we have all of the people doing everything right. This is a very common thing. I'm taking all this up and I'm seeing all the food doing all the things right. - Me, I'm one of those. - And but you're going, but you are accelerating your health and some people are coming up against the wall and say, I'm doing everything right but I still don't feel good in my body. You know, I measure okay, but I don't feel good. I don't feel emotionally good. There's one of the things you felt as you fork, felt emotionally different. That I believe comes through this method of taking stress out because a normal stretch creates a stress spike in the body. And when adrenaline hits, when adrenaline, no upper nephrine, hit your blood, it takes four hours for that to abate or to go. When you do a facial maneuver, there's no stretching. And the reason why is stretching of a muscle threatens a joint. So your body is, whoa, wait a second here, am I okay? And a maneuver doesn't actually stretch or create a threat to the body. So it relaxes rather than stress spikes and relaxes. And that's why I believe, I mean, we've done lots of our own end of total science on the sense that at some point we'll publish, but that's why I believe it works. - Yeah, well, it does inherently make a lot of sense. You know, that, you know, fascia that's connecting everything, which is also a communication system when it gets folded incorrectly or it gets stressed or it gets too tight, that there's some kind of communication pathway that's interrupted there. It's like when I first started learning about the oral cavity and I had a, well, I actually dentist map all these routes from brain into the body. It made perfect sense why different anomalies in the teeth could affect things in the body. - And there's an emotional consequent with each one of those two. - Yeah. - So in your journey, what had been like some of the most profound stories? Leanne Rhymes was the big one. - I mean, we have a lot of them documented, but I love to focus on the children. The way I had, I had one a doctor brought a child to us for our reality TV series called Behind the Real that's coming out soon. And we, she had been, her, the child had this extreme sugar regulation issue and extreme and there was not - Couldn't regulate their blood sugar. - Yeah. And they were given medication that made the kid hairy and he looked like a werewolf almost. And what happened, he had, there's trauma on the birth. So we had that, as we were talking about the C section, we removed the pressure in the frontal cranial bone through the practitioner version of these fascial maneuvers. And his blood sugar stabilized and has never come back. So things like that, we have a lot of people that have Parkinson's that were shaking and also walking better and not shaking anymore. And those are all like on videos, but the ones that really turn me are the ones that are the children because you think about it, they're going into a system where they're told that there's no answers. And a kid with a skulliosis and you can look on our YouTube, you could see me reversing a skulliosis up to 22 degrees in one hour. - Wow. - And so we do that live in stream because no one would believe it if I told you. - Right. - So there's things like that that seem unreal, but it's unreal because of the way that we look at the human body. I look at the body differently, I have a different belief system and these things are all compartments of that. And I, but it's the children. You impact a child's life. And I think every time if I had that one, I was 13 when I went into physical trauma. Then what would my life be like today? - This is almost like a way that you can micro release trauma on a daily basis. So it doesn't become cumulative. - That's what happens. That's why our 28-day reset is so powerful because people within the 28 days, they'll come out of that and they go, it's like I went on a psychedelic experience. I went to a shaman. But they did it by themselves at home. And we also want people to hear this is that if you can't, a lot of times you can't get supplements like the ones that I gave you earlier. But if you just have minerals, you have silica of what we found to be deficient everybody through thousands of hair follicle tests. And the 102 minerals and you move your body like fascily. Things get better no matter what it is. And if you have the ability to buy more, do more you can. Like this up and then I gave you earlier. - Yeah, that felt great. - It's unbelievable. And what it does is it takes out inflammation of the fascial tissue specifically. - And what's it? - It's the third curcuminoid called Bizdemoxy curcumin. It's which appears in nature like an orac rating on curcumin is 9,500. On this product clinically patented and clinically trial, it's 500,000. And so what we do is take the active ingredient Bizdemoxy curcumin, we push it back into the supplement. So chemically copy it, put it back into the natural source of it which is curcumin. So there's no side effect. Cause the body doesn't see it as something different. And it's at 30%. And then we put a little BD on that in there. And it instantaneously pops up your brain and your body's ability to perceive. Like the athlete's like no vacuuming gave to him. He said, I could feel my edges. So my field. - Right. I wanna go back to the C section discussion for a second. Cause we had a really interesting discussion at lunch today before we came on the podcast. And you were talking about some of the reversible detriment of C section. You know that 38% of children are born to C section but only 8% of those are actually America. - In America. - And some countries it's like 50 to 60%. - Wow. And I don't wanna, you know, I hope you any OB/GYNs mean a lot of C sections may be medically necessary, but you're doing them for scheduling purposes.
purposes. Eight percent. Eight percent of medicine. Our medically necessary. 38 percent in the United States up to 50 and 60 percent on countries. So it doesn't really matter why there's a lot there's a rabbit hole of why we do them placenta and the value of the placenta changes its value and how it's how it the like there's less less bacterial overload it's cleaner when it comes from a c-section surgically removed it so the placenta is worth more right that's that's one thing right but without going down the rabbit holes of that there's there's there we know about things like the microbiome and all these things have been talked about but the mechanics of it is when the head goes through the birth canal that cones and it naturally the baby's head cones and then settles that allows the nine cranial bones the sutures in between it allows them to sit properly so that they move our bones are all supposed to move like our cranial bones to respirate but what we've noticed in the c-section is the frontal bone when you take a look at it from a side there's a slight slope to it and when we do the c-section release like on a kid that slope automatically changes its architecture and they have this euphoric experience usually a lot of crying at first but especially with kids there's a there's a trauma release and an increase of blood flow of the frontal lobe which is measurable and anybody wants to do what they can and there's lots of people that are already doing this there are doctors so this is what's really important is that if that body does if that baby doesn't go through the birth canal the mechanics of it is that that adhesion in that cranial suture and then the lack of blood flow which creates our leads to or shows things that we've we've observed that people that have c-sections have higher incidence of ADHD they have anxiety depression eating disorders digestive disorders home-on-regulation and you don't really correlate those back to lack of oxygen in the prefrontal cortex you correlate them to all sorts of other things so we end up going down a rabbit hole that doesn't have a solution yeah and if you're if your craniums compressed oxygen has to flow through tissue and it's like anything but squeeze your arm eventually less oxygen goes there you can see it'll start turning colors right well if our cranial bones can't move properly less oxygen is going to move through the head even after those sutures in the skull are fused and you can still manipulate them in open space in the prefrontal cortex area so what we found I mean if you go on through our social media and you see the the hundreds of thousands of before and after photos you'll see a change in the height of everybody my wife changed it got a half inch taller today yeah yeah and and and you could see the change in her face I saw it just by correcting her lardotic and cathodic curves I imagine but and it corrected her structural alignment t symmetry her face her the shape of her forehead changed all of that so what the experience of that what we've noticed experience is increased perception increased lack of stress going down emotions seem to be calmer more regulated right away and she noticed that immediately she did yeah and I saw that side by side pictures we'll put sage up there I always throw sage under the bus every podcast I'm like throwing my wife under the bus yeah because it's it's significant and that happened in 30 minutes yeah I'm gonna throw those before and afters on there because I think I think it's important to to talk about so for my audience that wants to find out more about you where do they find you I think the best place to start today if if you want to do something go to our website hemagrash.net or just type in hemagrash anywhere and we're on most social platforms we have almost every social platform we got kicked off TikTok how did you get kicked out your piss off the Chinese I don't know I you know we were we were talking about a certain set of minerals that we found to be deficient that we're impacting everybody from chemicals in the sky and there you go and we so it's silica and oh yeah and aluminum yeah yeah there's plenty of them up there so we don't know how they got it so we are sharing the the solution for it and they took away 1.7 million people like that no warning so but yeah any other social platform for peptides I've had it happen for quite a number of things yeah so they they they can go there that's a good place to start and if they're if they they want to try it out of course most of it's free go to our youtube and try a 15 minute stress reset really just go try that out and if it works good for you do it for three days and if that three days it works you would do it for seven days the three day mark and the seven day mark are cathartic in the way that people experience it because when you take stress out of your body for a three day perception cycle or a seven day cycle it resets the nervous system it seems to do something that like like permanently gives you a new belief in your own body is the best way to describe it that's great all right well we're about to go into my VIP room because my VIPs are waiting for you they got a lot of questions for you before you came on the podcast I let them know you were coming on so they've got some really introspective questions for you but I wind down all my podcasts by asking all my guests the same question and there's no right or wrong answer to this question but what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human ultimate human it's to be balanced between my my thoughts my emotions and my actions because when I'm balanced to my thoughts my emotion and my actions I show up in my best form whether it's physically emotionally or perceptually I show up better as a father or show up better as a husband I show up better as a as a as a practitioner or helper or teacher and so that's really what being an ultimate human is to be I love that the ultimate human is in I mean the human garage is in the ultimate human today I love it guys I hope you enjoyed the podcast VIPs were coming for you and until 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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Fascia is a connective tissue that connects and goes through everything in the body, acting as a superhighway for nutrients, signals, and trauma storage.
Bones do not touch (except teeth, ribcage, and ears); fascia provides the structural support, and reducing friction in fascia improves overall body organization and function.
Trauma is stored physically in the fascia, not just in the brain, and can be released through specific fascia maneuvers.
Gary Line learned about fascia and body healing during 14 months in solitary confinement with a chiropractor/neurologist, leading to the creation of the Human Garage.
Simple fascia techniques can be self-applied, making benefits accessible to everyone without relying on practitioners.
The interstitium, discovered in 2017, is a fascia-based "brain" that is millions of times more receptive than the human brain, supporting the idea of fascia as a key body system.
Summary:
This transcription from the Ultimate Human Podcast features host Gary Breckow and guest Gary Line, who discusses fascia—a connective tissue that permeates and connects the entire body. Line explains that fascia is more than a structural element; it serves as a superhighway for minerals, vitamins, and signals, and stores trauma. He challenges conventional views by stating that no bones touch (except teeth, ribcage, and ears), making fascia the true structural support.
Reducing friction in fascia through specific maneuvers organizes muscles, tendons, nerves, and bones, enhancing body performance. Line’s journey began in solitary confinement for 17 months, where he learned from a neurologist and chiropractor, leading to his creation of the Human Garage. He emphasizes that trauma is stored physically in fascia, not just mentally, and can be released through compression and counter-rotation techniques.
These maneuvers can be self-applied, democratizing healing. The 2017 discovery of the interstitium—a highly receptive fascia-based network—supports this view. Breckow attests to immediate benefits after a short session, including corrected posture and foot arch, and increased energy.
Line concludes that instead of adding more to the body, reducing friction allows natural organization and healing.
FAQs
Fascia is a connective tissue that connects everything in the body, going through it rather than just around it. It acts as a superhighway for nutrients and signals, and it can store trauma.
Yes, trauma can be locked up in the fascia, not just in the brain. Fascia maneuvers can release this stored trauma.
Fascia maneuvers reduce friction in the connective tissue, allowing muscles, tendons, nerves, and bones to organize and work better. This can improve performance and alleviate pain.
Gary Line spent 17 months in solitary confinement after being indicted for drug conspiracy related to his encrypted technology. There, he met a chiropractor-turned-neurologist who taught him about the body.
In prison, a cellmate who was a chiropractor and neurologist taught him for 14 months, 24 hours a day, compressing years of education into practical experience.
Discovered in 2017, the interstitium is a brain-like network within fascia that is millions of times more receptive than the human brain, influencing body organization and function.
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