Game Scoop! 856: What the Fox?!

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I'm your host, Damon Hatfield. Joining me here at the table is Nick Lamone. I'm back, baby. We're also joined by Sam Claiborne. Hey, it's great to be back. And Mark Medina. I'm here, Damon. Okay. Well, we've got a great show for this week. There's a new Star Fox game to talk about. Well, new. For the fifth time. Yeah, a remade Star Fox game with a very fresh coat of paint. We've got some good news on Pragmata sales. I know. We've got our review of Mixtape came out. It's the first 10 out of 10 that we've given this year. And I also have the May and June 1989 issue of Nintendo Power. There are some fun things to look through in there. Wait, May and June. That's like the third or fourth issue ever. It was like the sixth issue. But yeah, you're right. Sixth issue. Okay. But first, viewers, Scoop Nation, hopefully you're aware that IGN Live is less than a month away now. It is going down June 6th and 7th here in downtown LA. So hopefully you've already got your tickets. 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I'm sorry, Mark. I don't want to lose you from IGN. But Nintendo hired this guy. Look at this man. It would actually be Nintendo Switch D4 edition is how they do it. I just put on sunglasses, leave the room. They're like, he did it again. Let me just do the quick calculations here. 64 times 4. So technically, this is Star Fox 256. Okay. Got it. I've never played this game. I've actually only ever played the original Star Fox game on Super Nintendo, which I played because it looked so cool because of the Super FX chip in there. I don't know. I've just never played any other Star Fox. Game pair tells me this is a good one. He says it's all been confirmed. It's probably the last good Star Fox game. And now the comments are rolling. I kind of like assault. Assault's not great, but it's all right. There's a pretty good DS one. Oh, the 3DS one? No, not the dinosaur one. Star Fox Adventures is the GameCube one. But Star Fox. Well, the Star Fox on 3DS is the remake of Star Fox 64. No, not that one. There's one on DS. It has a little bit more flying around and stuff. Oh, X is pretty cool for Game Boy. Also, it's a kind of precursor to Star Fox. Oh, my gosh. I was not aware of a Game Boy one. Star Fox Command is the one that Sam is thinking. Yeah. Command is pretty cool. Okay. They all have Star Fox in them, though. Here's my takeaway as someone who has not played this game. I don't think Nintendo did themselves any favors by showing us that clip from the Mario Galaxy movie. I know. Yeah. Because it's so good. It's so cool in the movie, and he's so expressive. It has so much personality. And then we get this, which I wouldn't say has any of those things. I would actually liken this to the live action remakes of The Lion King. Yeah, yeah. Where the animals just don't have any expression or personality or anything. Yeah, and Slippy, you know, I know he's a frog, but the wet look is not a good look here. He just looks as shiny as I do right now on camera. Yeah, I mean, he's lucky he's in his own starship because he smelled bad. Yeah, I screamed when they showed. And Slippy is not derogatory. That said, I do think all of the bad guys look pretty darn good. I think Falco looks pretty good, too. Yeah, the others I don't think look that bad. Fox looks okay. He just has a couple bad angles is all. We all have our bad angles. I don't know, man. Look at that chin. He looks like he needs some scratches. That's for sure. I think that the gritty old Fox crew is like the funniest thing ever. Oh, it's so good. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. In the cloud, he looks cool. It is weird how just like high fidelity this looks in a way where I was like, well, you certainly made a choice, Nintendo. But I mean, I'm excited for it. I do like Star Fox 64. It's been ages since I've played it. I think I still remember how to access the alternate route. So looking forward to doing all that. And I think it's a great like arcade style shooter. Like it's a solid video game. I can't get over how soaking wet Slippy is. I don't like it at all. - No. - More like sloppy, am I right? - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. - Per is saying, you know, it's an on-rails shooter, but there are different routes. If you like shoot a specific thing, it'll take you down different paths. So you have to play, if you want to see everything, you have to play the game through multiple times. - Mm-hmm. - That's right. - And there's arena areas that have like, kind of like challenges where it's like, you're flying around and trying to like, take out this like structure and you either do or you don't. So it has stuff like that. I mean, this looks awesome, the old 64-gram. - Yeah, the, you can beat the game in like, an hour and a half. - Oh, wow. - Right? - It's pretty short. - But like, the whole point is that you're supposed to like, I remember playing it as a kid and I'd just be like, "Oh, we're, you know, just beat the game casually." But the whole point is that you're constantly replaying it to find the secret routes. - And that's how the first "Super Nintendo" one was. It's just the first "Super Nintendo" one was really hard. And I think 64 is a little bit easier. - It is pretty easier. And then that alternate path is, kind of kicks your ass a little bit. The alternate path can be pretty tough. - Then there's the harder paths. - 'Cause there's an underwater level that I still remember being the main of my existence where you play as a submarine and it's called the Blue Neptune and it's sick. - I don't think this game was designed from the ground up for "Switch 2." It is a "Switch 2" exclusive. You cannot play this on "Switch 1" now, but that's because of the kind of upgrades to the chat and the multiplayer and stuff like that that they had, that they showed. I don't, I mean, Nintendo has made five better looking games and then Yoshi looks better than this coming out the same month. Like for some reason, like it just, it just looks a little bit last gen to me or pre-last gen. I was making a lot of GameCube jokes watching it, but you know, I'm sure it'll be fun. - Well, I think the gameplay looks cool. - Yeah. - The cut scenes look a little weird, but the moment they actually start flying, I think it looks cool. Like that looks great. - I don't think the fire, the lava stuff looks that great. - But it's 60 fips. It's 60 fips. That's all that we need for a Star Fox game. I don't think a Star Fox game has ever been 60 fips. - Yeah. - I think. - I've never heard anyone say 60 fips. I don't know. I'm just trying to make a catch on. that they starfox 60 tips has a ring to it you gotta admit i don't like it i don't like that at all it doesn't i think it looks cool it doesn't immediately impress me as much as uh metroid prime 4 did when i when i saw that i was like wow this looks really good i think that this game really does shine visually in those like darker levels like when you're out in the space and you see like the lilac system and there's a lot of shadows like this stuff looks great like all the stylized shadows are awesome yeah that looks good cool robot but it doesn't universally like that water part looked like a sega dreamcast level a lot like it just doesn't have the same i don't think the art direction looks very good in this there they were just showing like a boss battle against like a like a flying saucer and this the original game would have come out right around the same time as as what's uh independence day independence i think it's got to be a reference to that yeah totally i think this i wish they had leaned into the anime thing yeah yeah that'd be cool but but barring that lean into the puppets yeah like if the whole world was like a little diorama of puppets i just think starfox needs a style yeah it needs it needs some kind of style change because like the the honestly the gritty realism is is goofy to me but i think this game will be good and i think that starfox fans deserve this as a leaping point to like kind of like reset starfox and i think that's what they're going for with the name which is just wild just to call this this is the reboot when they chose a completely different game to reboot it's just a completely different game to reboot but whatever one thing i think it is time remake just be zelda dude well i think this kind of sells that they won and nintendo is not above remaking their classics uh and i think that's gonna be next i mean yeah they've they already did that with mario rpg and mario versus donkey kong so there's precedence this is on the the same skit that this i if zelda comes out later this year i think that's exactly how the 3ds release was right starfox was i think a launch title and then and then zelda came out like starfox a little bit you're you're talking about the 3ds order of releases yeah which for games that nobody cared about we're not gonna be able to drop this nobody cared about i i really like a lot of the stuff that they're adding in the game i think the ability to replay missions with like the objective list i think is inherently cool and interesting because once you play through all the paths in the game you're like all right i think i've done everything but the one thing that's a little bit weird is that you can't play all the games in the game you can't play all the games in the game you can't play all the games in the game weird i'm mixed about is the addition of like all the cut scenes that you can learn about all the starfox or like i think that's a fun and exciting and it's something to fill the time but then they do weird stuff like here's the entire prologue of when james mcleod goes missing it's like part of the appeal of starfox 64 is in the late game when there's a really cool thing that happens with james mcleod we were like well who is this guy what the heck like this it removes a lot of the mystery which is a bit of a bummer to me i think but maybe i'm just being nitpicky but there is some some sort of like enigmatic stuff the mystery of it all like don't spell it out don't just just show me don't don't tell me there's some other fun details you can use the new n64 controller to play the game yeah that's nice that's cool or you can use mouse controls yeah that was weird could be cool first person no thanks i've actually never used a mouse control on switch to anyone here yeah it was the worst thing i've ever done in my life the you know the you pay to play the switch to demos game i know the the welcome tour oh welcome tour hey i like welcome tour and it was fun in there i'm not throwing any shade of welcome tour except for selling it yeah yeah i mean it was only five bucks this is or 10 bucks this is 50 which is no i don't know it's 50 digital and it's 60 physical which i think is still a bit too expensive for what the game is granted pretty steep the game is good uh but uh nintendo's gonna nintendo be glad that it's 50 and not seven this just tells me the ocarina of time or ocarina of time sorry i someone yelled at me for calling it ocarina of time i thought i've heard i've never heard anyone say ocarina well i might have said ocarina then but regardless i think that that game is going to be 69.99 when that comes out 100 they could charge where is mario 64 i'm getting sick of this what do you want the remake yeah i want this but for 28 we got we can finally do one mario 64 has never gotten a remake yes and like one on the ds dude the ds one is great oh man i will i will i will cancel i will good game show's over guys i mean it's just a fact mark i'm not saying it's good but saying that it never got a remake when it got a remake is wild that's not a remake i would love a remake of mario 64 that looks like odyssey let's you hecking control the camera that's what i want no no the camera needs to stay exactly and the controls need to stay exactly i think that's the problem mark is that like there's too much there's too much to get wrong by tweaking it um and yeah if they if they appease damon they're gonna make me sad they're gonna that's okay make they're gonna destroy the mario speed running community that's okay exactly they added stars to the ds one which is like the coolest thing ever and it would just be amazing to get you know mario 64 x anniversary edition with you know twice as many stars that'd be awesome i mean multiple characters too in the ds you start the game as yoshi it rocks yeah does not rock it does but yeah i mean so bad that one's that one's tough i mean like just an upscale to look nice and everything would be great but how great would it be if the um next mario game is you know a game more like odyssey it's huge as a lot of different places but one of those places is the mushroom kingdom yeah and then when you go inside the castle it is the full remake of mario oh my gosh in that engine in that castle but it's just like you know a side a side part of the game kind of like the end of odyssey spoiler sorry yeah yeah that last level is gorgeous and imagine just hopping you go inside over the drawbridge and all of a sudden it's no paintings galore that this is weird because this i wanted to talk about this ar filter thing yeah but also like these are very important internal nintendo people to be putting koizumi and miyamoto miyamoto makes a little more sense it's like i made starbucks and i love starbucks because you mean did they make this at r&d one like what's happening like it doesn't look like it i don't know this is kind of interesting i don't know this is like this tech has been in our iphones for years now but now nintendo put it in starfox but now instead of an apple fox you have fox mcleod and i like that i would argue that's even better it does look it does look very silly and i'm kind of into it seeing seeing the i mean it's almost like they designed the chat to look like starfox though because when you see yeah the chat with the four starfox characters and like that's so cool except they put like a three level little mini multiplayer game in there i love i love this idea that nintendo actually thinks that it's like people are going to be out there using their ar filters talking all innocently i call me uh koizumi koizumi is getting more emotion out of starfox or fox mcleod's face than i've seen in the cut scenes of the game that's true okay i mean okay i've never played this game it's supposed to be good so i i look forward to playing it in june is it still fun damon oh well that's actually yeah that's a good idea i'm in one way to find out yeah there is only one way to find out but what do we think about so if this ocarina of time remake uh is true now would you want can they get away with just doing this same game everything's the same just make it pretty graphics or should they do more of like a final fantasy 7 i want them to add more i want there to be more side quests like take a note from majora's mask in terms of like all the different side activities are that are in castle town or the hyrule castle town whatever it's called and give me more stuff to do there because in uh ocarina of time it feels very you know it's exciting the first time you play the game but once you know the game it's like oh there's not that much to do here you gotta find the puppy but yeah i think i think keep keep the same structure but i think you just give me some more stuff to do in the game you know what they definitely have to do mark what's that let me control the camera that's very unlikely in hyrule castle town that's fine you can do it in that hyrule castle town okay they can keep keep that pre-rendered that's fine you know what i'm already calling it now they're gonna add a jump button to the game and it's gonna be the most controversial thing in the world you know what i'm already calling it now they're gonna add a jump button to the game and it's gonna be the most i i mean the rumors is is that it's like breath of the wild style remakes so there i mean that actually will be that'd be a fundamental remake yeah it doesn't mean much except for like i mean unless it's like open world if it means like that's the design they're drawing from then they solved a problem that starfox was unable to solve which is like what does starfox look like in high fidelity and like looks good in the mario movie even the 3d character looks good in the mario movie but like not in the game like look at how it doesn't look right look at how it looks like the first iteration of sonic looks great like don't get me wrong i i love ocarina of time but like this is like i see the opportunities here and just in hyrule field a little was like okay you can add a cave over here you can add a little mountain over there like why not what about a hole under a tree would you settle for that oh i'll take a i'll take a handful yeah so yeah i mean this needs more and definitely they need to give it a style and pick a style that's interesting and everything but like if i don't we don't we don't know what the goal is like is the goal to introduce a new generation to puzzle solving zelda is the goal to reuse the the new breath of wild engine is the goal to you know like make a 10 out of 10 game that's just kind of inspired by breath or ocarina of time like i don't know movie synergy potentially yeah the thing that i'm afraid of is is the rumors that they are taking a remake approach and that we're getting ocarina of time part one and it's child dad be nuts that's a fundamental well i guess people said that about final fantasy 7 remake but that's just unusual to me that is just unusual and then it would be part two and then that would be all the that i would call that big movie synergy yeah uh link's shadow is so weird like just only but they tried yeah i mean they did something they did something yeah i mean i remember looking at him like oh my god the sun is casting a shadow the cut scene you get where princess zelda is kidnapped spoilers for uh ocarina of time and then they're like oh my god the sun is casting a shadow of time uh it just blew my mind as a child like this this looks like real like this is incredible like graphics will never look better than this you know in that part if you don't go get the ocarina or the ocarina then like you don't really continue the story it's just like sitting there at the bottom of mine was final fantasy 10 when final fantasy 10 came out i was like that's it they look like humans they figured out graphics games will never look better than this yeah i felt that for resident evil 4 on gamecube not that they couldn't look better but i was like i don't think things need to look better because this game is so fun and looks so good i didn't think i held up i didn't think water would ever look better than mario sunshine at the time yeah it's never been as refreshing as that game that game definitely has a summer vacationist vibe to it which will never never be replaced it's a chill game you i just want to hang out in delfino plaza nintendo should do i love when it gets lighter i like stresses me out when you start the game now it's dim like it's a chill game i just want to hang out in delfino plaza and i love when it gets cool it's a cool effect nintendo should do a sunshine 2 they should make a sequel to mario sunshine a sunshine 2 would be so sick is this making is this making mark angry too hashtag i don't have a problem with sunshine justice for flood justice for flood justice for flood if they give sunshine any attention over 64 i think 64 has had plenty of attention over the years what i'm sorry it was a launch title for two systems one of them was the best selling one of all time and it's in a limited edition triple release pack on nintendo switch that you can no longer buy physically so with sunshine did they bring that back wasn't there like a resurgence of that triple pack for some reason i think it's just unsold copies is my my uh idea look how good this looks i know i know and then the challenge levels where you don't have flood are so fun oh they're so hard we we have the technology to make a mario game like this every year i swear i swear it's possible i just wish it played better sorry guys i i can also agree with that i just don't think this is the only thing game where bowser and bowser jr are fully voiced and there's a reason why this is the only game um all right well nintendo remakes starfox sounds good uh conclusion we're all excited for this though i don't want people saying that we're rating on 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play pragmata so i like set up a makeshift little pc setup in the corner of a room that was safe and safe to do it and then i just powered through the game and then there's extra stuff to do once you beat the game i did that and did all that that's where the game gets really fun is the extra content that's like the challenge content oh that is so good but yeah this is exactly what i want from capcom's new uh ip quote unquote it feels weird calling something that but that's what it is that's like that's that's what capcom's calling it so capcom attributes the success to marketing initiatives such as the playable demo plus an aggressive campaign to boost visibility of the game but the developer also believes the emotional narrative driven story on top of its unique gameplay has solidified its position in capcom's storied portfolio alongside resident evil and devil may cry and then capcom usa's chief operating officer rob dyer says we're to a point now where we've got another ip that capcom and god bless them has an arsenal that we can continue to go down a weird way to put it they're going to go down the ip but okay yeah yeah this this isn't this isn't the only pragmatic yeah look forward to two and three years maybe there was a sales figure there's a million a million two million yeah okay cool yeah i mean i completely disagree about the marketing like they're fine now and now in future marketing is going to be great because everyone wants to see what's what pragmatitude is going to be like but like boy i still had no idea what this game was until mark they're right about the demo like mark played the demo is like heck this game is really fun like it's actually like a really great cool capcom game and then that made me want to play the game and then also they're right too like just from the start of the game you're like i want to play more of this like it just has a good intro and it's simple and it has a mystery and and you can you can feel powerful right away like all all of all of that works but i think their strategy of like getting their ip out like was terrible well also something nick touched on capcom has this crazy ability to make their games more fun after you've beaten them yes so i think that that replayability that's how that's like now i really want to play it again and that's how this game is it so much stuff opens up and you have tons of incentives to do it all and it's a skill check like it's the kind of content that i want in an end game where it's like hey did you learn all the systems in this game do you know how all the weapons work does your play style suit the challenge like i love it when games force you to like try in a way that feels fair and when you fail you know exactly what you did wrong and i think that's what pragmata does so well especially in the late game capcom is very transparent with its sales figures you can go to this website look for just if you search capcom platinum it'll give you a list of its best-selling games of all time so at two million sales pragmata is already tied with the super nintendo version of street fighter 2 wow and the wii edition of resident evil 4 which if you'll remember every person you knew owned multiple copies of street fighter 2 at that time yeah but that's cool uh you haven't finished yet have you it's such a good game though and i recommend it to anybody i will keep playing it but i i'm at now on deadline for multiple games and i have to pause my playing but i did do that once and went back to it and a rare game in which i was totally able to pick up where i left off nice yeah well sam tell us it's definitely worth seeing it through i was just gonna say it's worth seeing it through the ending is very very good cool yeah sam tell us about mixtape 10 out of 10 from ign yeah mixtape is a um it's a it's an interesting non-game game you know it's part walking simulator which for people that don't know what that means that's a pejorative term for games where you're kind of like you know not doing a lot of combat maybe not doing puzzle solving as much as kind of adventure game walking around in 3d it is really like that's what you know this is not that though it is more of a series of playable cut scenes with music videos and the music videos are playable too the one you keep seeing like let me give you three examples one you're skating down a hill to dvd that's good just plays the whole song you just ollie and jump you can't fail if you hit something you just back up they've just introduced the characters another one is you're walking around holding a camcorder and looking through the camcorder at a party and while that party's happening a song is playing and each person you go up to might uh guzzle a beer or do a keg stand and you can give them the finger or give them a thumbs up or like i don't know shock or something and then you encourage somebody to jump off a roof into a pool that i'm a golden god scenario that's another one another one is like a you know you saw a teepeeing one there well another one is like you and your friends are trying to find the house in the woods that you're going to party in using like a little map from your sister you walk for a little while walking simulator people talk nothing to solve but then you're like they come to an open field they're like well what what song do you pick for this and then the girl that's picking all the songs is a little bossy uh picks the song and then they start running the field you have that traditional like dreamscape thing where like you can like kind of jump you can jump higher and higher and then you start kind of like flying over the field so they're kind of like dreamlike experiences and stuff linked with cut scenes like that i mean that clearly is not a game quote unquote game for everybody right like it's just not it seems like an experience yeah and then you have to really imprint on these characters and luckily they make that easy because it's like full-on nostalgia plus life is strange drama right like it's got all that um and then the nostalgia is a little bit confusing though i mean it's set in you know i think northern california it looks like portland more than or oregon more than california but um like it's not in san francisco like that's not where it is it's somewhere north of there so and then uh the the soundtrack has a joke about alice coltrane which is funny as like an older track but mainly it's who's a jazz uh musician harpist but it mainly is like um kind of uh 70s 80s retro music for them and then their current music like silver chair and stuff like that so they they have like that that's the mixtape and idea the premise is that the girl is leaving town after school to go be a music um consultant for a film where you like pick out soundtrack music so that's why the whole time they're always deferring to her and saying like what would you pick for this scene and she's she's kind of doing that and that's like kind of a problem with guardians of the galaxy too it's like when you're actually with like six people on a spaceship and this guy is always picking the soundtrack to everything like it doesn't always feel great to me it always feels like maybe let somebody else have a turn at the radio but she's like but this is my destiny so i don't know that always strikes me as a little bit weird and so that that's that's the thing you just have to eat up with this just accept that somebody's selecting the music and it's just this girl and she's she has good taste not no complaints there so there's that um the characters are pretty good like her friends are really interesting and they dive into those friendships in a good way uh the game has this i don't know if you've seen it but it's like it has this like incredible sheen of polish like there's scenes where the characters are stoned and you're walking around in a blockbuster and it's like one of the best looking things i've ever seen like it's really funny because you stumble in the way that it's stumbling and giggling it's like great it's really funny the camcorder stuff looks incredible they all have kind of stop motion animation like it's just so polished like it's just incredible looking so and it's so short it's like two hours so like everybody should play it the final thing i'll say i'm sure you all have questions is that there's first of all i i mean i think damon and i are like exactly this age which is i think is kind of funny so like when you play this you're going to be like oh the things that they're doing are like exactly when you were a sophomore in high school or junior high school like it's just exactly that house parties and doing bad things doing good things and just having fun the sound of the beer opening is perfect there um so here's the like kind of flying thing however uh i think this has it has a little bit of an earthbound effect where if you weren't there uh earthbound for people that don't know is a japanese rpg set in america and all the things are really boring american things that were really cool to japanese kids but it's really it looks really bland if you play it as an american and i and it's it's charming i'm not saying it's not charming but it's like it's not like it's set on the moon it's set in tucson you know like it's not it's not interesting uh in some ways where it could be if it was a fantasy but it's interesting to people that are want to live out an american fantasy this is a very nuanced argument i'm making here so try to stay with me this is more entertaining for people that didn't experience this stuff than people that did because it's really like wow how cool is it to live out this life and um i just think that's interesting like the kind of california childhood is in so many movies it's an et you know it's in all these things and it's just a thing that's revisited a whole lot and i think it's a little tired for me i haven't grown up in phoenix i haven't grown up in phoenix and it looked exactly like this and my life was exactly like this that makes it nostalgic for me that's cool i like that part about it but it also makes the setting just i just i think it's revisited a lot and i think gone home revisited that setting exquisitely exquisitely and i think it did a really good job mixtape does a really good job in a lot of other ways too all right just talked about mixtape for a long time well cool i will check it out one of my favorite games of all time is what remains of edith finch and your description of it almost comes off like that where it's like a normal kind of serious story but like with goofy weird elements like and edith finch like has all these like dream scenarios where you're like cutting fish's heads or you turn into a cat yeah the fantastic kind of it kind of comes off like that and did that one have puzzle solving yeah like going home has a lot of puzzle solving and so it's like looking at this game didn't interest me but your description of it did so i might give it a go yeah it's like bouts of magical realism for all you literary folks out there i mean and a hundred percent if you wanted to play this with a friend or a loved one or like in a room of people that like it may have been like nostalgic for the 90s like it's totally good for that because all you're doing is playing through these like scenes there's a little bit of stuff where you're like walking around a kid's bedroom and like you can get stuck there for a long time if you don't know exactly what you're doing it's not the game's fault like there's the blockbuster scene it's very funny um yeah so you know it is fun for that stuff too and like i think this is a genre basically as i said like life is strange it's more like this than anything and these are just going to be around and so you know is there any nice is there any dispatch in this um completely different like is there any dna of dispatch yeah yeah there's no there's no central kind of uh strategy or anything like that and then there's no character choice at all okay you don't you don't ever choose dialogue so that's not one of those like play through it three times to see what happens and then you're done you're done you're done you're done you're done you're done you're done you're just experiencing the world through these kids and this music and uh as you can see like the music is it's just it's it's it also like does a lot for the game yeah they're listening a lot of my favorite bands so like yeah yeah i will have and they don't they don't choose the singles either they choose deeper cuts which is kind of cool all right mixtape i'll check it out starting or growing your own business can be intimidating and lonely at times your to-do list endless with new tasks and lists can easily begin to overrun your life so finding the right tool that not only helps you out but simplifies everything as a built-in business partner can be a game changer for 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good cool quote uh but it but i think if you're saying tell me when you think bioshock is coming out you take let me take a big drink of water first holy that was good but i think if you're saying disappointed yes deeply disappointed and that's actually pretty so it's funny his comment is funny and then it's actually pretty forthcoming that this he's admitting he's deeply disappointed in in this game that his company's been making for a long time yeah well i mean that's kind of why it's like somebody somebody well i hope their boss doesn't find out they're taking a long time to make a bioshock game well you might really crack down from i recall there being like several or just one very like hard reset on the game development semi-recently maybe maybe a year or two ago just like we're starting over folks uh so very very curious it's weird for metroid prime to beat it to market when they brought in rod ferguson the cleaner yeah rob ferguson i always call him the cleaner man he he's always like all right what am i working with let's do it he's like uh he's still there right the wolf he's yeah he's the wolf from uh from pulp fiction yeah give me a cigarette and a big drill hand well they've been working on this bioshock for a long time yeah i don't know a lot i see a lot in in the comments on ign i say people they're like well just it's been long enough just remake the first one or maybe just revisit rapture at this point right you know you don't need to like reinvent the wheel but that feels a little bit just like inherently wrong based on like the entire ethos of what's going on in the game but it's a little bit of what bioshock is is like the i don't know when i think of bioshock i think of things i've never seen before put on the screen i guess bioshock 2 you do revisit rapture part but it's just i don't know i i just expect something dazzling when i think of bioshock you want it to be an anthology series because it was angling that way yeah i mean the whole thing is like these like failed capitalistic like political things where it's like we're just going to go into water and it's now we're going to go up into the sky but what's left that's it the earth just take a note out of all one of joel verne's novels we've already gone under the sea we've gone in the sky you go into the center of the earth or space space i mean that's judas though right also is judas space judas is in space also where's that game also but which one also don't believe judas is a real game either so it would have been great if they asked strauss zeldin who has nothing to do with judas about judas you think about judas judas before then i mean both these games bioshock four and then judas which is a spiritual spiritual successor for both of them it's been 13 years since infinite so come on yeah this is what we talk about this all the time why can't western developers make video games anymore uh ball shot it's just the funniest thing ever yeah bioshock infinite looks nothing like this somebody at igm could have been me could have been damon i'm a pretty big infinite defender i i think this game's cool i liked it it doesn't matter i don't ever play it but i i think if it's cool i've the dlc for infinite revisited rapture so i really kind of already did that i think i'd rather replay the original bioshock and bioshock 2 minerva's den uh infinite i replayed recently it's still a good time it's still fun today it it's it's all right it's an all right out of ten um but no all right i don't got time for all rights out yeah yeah if you've never experienced bioshock you gotta believe it's worth playing oh no my dad's gonna bite me my dad's gonna bite me oh man as soon as starfox's dad came out he was just a dog with glasses i was like oh no my dad's gonna bite me watch that watch that is it still fun for power app of the rapper you'll get all the references yeah uh yeah it's a really good episode but i played more this weekend i had some friends over we busted out and i was like just just so you know it's on it's an unplayable disaster by this point levels are still fun and i had like some like musicians you know and they're like i just don't know what's going on here like it's like it looks like i'm like you gotta believe you just gotta believe the eliminati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not a coincidence big lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years think about it but now seven up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda now lime comes first seven up flip the sip at zocdoc we know you care about your health you wouldn't do that early morning cardio if you didn't so the fact that your annual physical is overdue just shows how hard it can be to get seen by a doctor sorry that doctor's not a network press one for more options you've reached us outside normal business hours the next availability is in three months but zocdoc makes finding the right doctor easy download the app and search by specialty insurance and availability read real patient reviews then book instantly zocdoc ready to be seen okay joebert let's pull up our nintendo power episode or issue that we have this week this is what i come for this is uh again may and june 1989 who's on the cover of this one sam oh let me i don't don't show you uh it's is is it track and field is not is this is it is it zelda or castlevania no it is neither of those okay no no okay these are duck tails nope is it metroid not tetris dober let's show let's show that that's ted who is on the cover of the ninja turtles themselves leonardo's looking wild the teenage mutant ninja turtles all of them are airbrush yeah some original art some very like soft airbrush style original art of the dude this on the spray painted on the side of a van would go crazy yeah yeah they just look like emojis like look at the purple like people sorry i don't know i don't know their names so i just have to call them by their colors you see tmnt is in quotes because this is the first time they ever used that and people were like what are they what's tuned tim and phipps it's the same thing is how many folks i love below that it says plus plus bayou billy and cobra triangle i don't know but at this point i was fully reading nintendo power and buying games based on how cool games looked in it or renting them or whatever and this is probably how i ended up with bayou billy to own yeah i can't think of any other way it would have happened but did this cover story convince you to get tmnt i was part of the cartoon i was i was a snob i didn't like tmnt as a kid i thought it was for kids this is where ai gets tricky because if a if a magazine came out today with that this is the i would start i'd start looking for the slop i'd be like how many fingers do they have oh they only have three fingers i think i see that right ai slope detected look at him he's only got three fingers do you see his belts is that the right belt for leonardo right colors is that who that is i mean is blue leonardo's blue yeah he is blue yeah yeah i don't know i don't know i thought that was a z they've got the right colors it does look like a z it looks like a z and then you zoom in you realize the z is the shadow or the light from the l okay you know he-man was really really lame and uh for some reason it like bled over into like like the neighborhood kids that were a little bit younger than me like t-man a lot and they like ninja turtles so that that's why i was for some reason not into it but i liked all kinds of little kid stuff like my guys and stuff like that yeah for this for some reason the neighborhood kids are too annoying about it so this is the obviously the nes game which was released under ultra which is an imprint of konami and then this is the game that was famously very difficult and obtuse and this one with the underwater level yeah yeah and yeah and seemed to include stuff that that just wasn't from the the cartoon show that everyone knew that's because kanami started doing this before the cartoon show was even out they got the license first and they started making it and then like a few months after this came out that's when the arcade game hit and that's the one that was seemed fully in the world of the of the of the cartoon show this one has some tough jumps in the sewer i'll tell you that and then that that everybody hates the level where you underwater disarm bombs because it's so stressful and timed and crazy but it has some really cool stuff like the top down damn scene which is like just awesome looking it's like this like well yeah it just looks cute also the music was cool oh yeah it was great visually and sonically it was great i mean everybody i know played this game for dozens of hours you know like we all played this so much i have the stat i have the stat it's something crazy i think it's the best selling third party game on the nes wow and it's like the the 11th best selling game overall on the platform so like yeah pretty much everyone owned tmnt if you had an nes anyway the 12th best selling game of all time let's go to the mailbox there's some really good mailbox here i like how they show the nintendo headquarters in redmond washington cool cool representing a podcast listeners he's wearing a nintendo official nintendo redmond shirt yeah yeah the wife was actually at nintendo yesterday and bought this from their shop and their actual nintendo office uh nes gourmets this is from uh vince jeff adam and jim from freeport illinois they say four of us got together and made a magazine called nintendo news for a school project we thought nes fans would enjoy the following recipe that we included for mike tyson's punch you just take two cups strawberry kool-aid two cups raspberry kool-aid two cups ginger ale and one box of frozen strawberries mix both flavors of kool-aid and ginger ale add the strawberries chill for at least 30 minutes before serving that's a cool kid dude what the heck i'll try it so that's really great but i'm having so two types of kool-aid and with with bubbles added from the ginger ale but then the frozen strawberries what's i don't it's supposed to look like fresh punching wounds i don't know like you're red and purple i think of drinking something with like frozen strawberries in it yeah it's the it's kind of like ice cream delicious guys remember to have an adult supervisor in the kitchen if you've never tried having a recipe together yeah don't mix two types of kool-aid kids don't cross the streams it's so good kool-aid was definitely popular in my household i miss it now just just thinking about it maybe i should get some powdered kool-aid this summer andrew from greensboro north carolina made a wrap for zelda would you like me to wrap it for you okay okay i will uh he says i made a rap for you mark i hope you and all the ns fans will like it it's the legend of zelda and it's really bad okay that's just the card that's the commercial you're just stealing that from the commercial come on okay that's good though not bad meaning bad but bad meaning good okay here's the rap and it's entirely it's the legend of zelda and it's really bad the creatures in the game are really rad dark nuts move very fast but if you are quick they will not last pulls voice jump super high but if you watch your speed you will not die wizroves move fast i agree but if you get touched you lose a lot of a heart of energy i'd like to thank nintendo for all the fun but i'm sorry to say my rap is done and all nintendo power had to say about this was totally deaf rap andrew andrew might be cooler than nintendo power look it is a cool marty mcfly vest oh yeah he's a hundred percent cooler than nintendo power that is a totally deaf rap okay uh an aleric that's a cool name aleric from new york uh the graphics in super mario brothers 2 are some of the best ever by nintendo sometimes the enemies in the game even help you get through tough spots like world 4-6 but the ending is the best thing about this game will you ever release super mario brothers 3 and nintendo power says we're glad you enjoyed super mario brothers 2 we are in fact producing super mario brothers 3 for nintendo's play choice 10 system late this summer at this time there are no immediate plans to release it for use with the nes but keep your eye on nintendo power for updates can you imagine reading that that's a good idea i'm gonna read that that would blow your there are no plans to bring super mario bruce 3 no to the nes mario 3 and it did come out for play choice 10 have it right here and it's super cool and it has a little bit of differences uh which is really neat just like the japanese version was that play choice 10 version the one that was featured in the wizard well would it have to have been i think they probably just used uh they could have just used the japanese version because it's well known they could have no i don't know who does they have prototypes and stuff by that point sam might be the only one who remembered discovery zone i know i went to a discovery zone yeah yeah when i was little phoenix yeah they're like giant like indoor my brother's girlfriend worked there so i got the hookup indoor play places and in 1990 i think my discovery zone had a place to play choice 10 and one day super mario bruce 3 was just in it that's the first time i played you know what's crazy is that the only one i've been to was visiting my relatives in kansas city there you go uh because because they called them something else in phoenix so that was the same one damon well there you go that's cool which is crazy because i in phoenix they had them and it was maybe the same owner but they might have been called something different and they converted that mine had an arcade and then they converted it all to a laser tag arcade that's where i played mortal combat 2 the most but they they also had the nintendo punch out machine but not the play oh nice well regarding this not having plans to bring it to the nes the only thing i can think of is that you know super mario bruce 3 today is maybe considered the best game on the platform yeah of all time yeah one of the greatest of all time but back then it wasn't a no that known quantity what they knew about the mario series is that super mario brothers one had been a huge hit and then the super mario brothers 2 that japan sent over was kind of a disaster so they had to send it back and have them make a different super mario brothers 2 out of a completely different game so maybe that's why after that experience they were like let's wait and see how let's test it out i don't know about this mario guy we're not sure about mario i don't know if he has the staying power the play choice was used for testing stuff in a market but it's just wild to see them just full-on say that yeah yeah yeah okay if we go on to the next page joebert uh someone else kath this is a catherine calling it from naperville illinois i'm a regular caller to your game counselors and i'm incredibly impressed with the way they treat callers in over a year of seeking their assistance i've always found them to be friendly knowledgeable professional kind and very patient no matter how simple a question may seem considering the stress involved in such a job i cannot commend you enough to say that super mario brothers one had been a huge hit and i think that's a great example of that i think that's a great example of that and i think that's a great example of that and i think that's a great example of that and i think that's a great example of that for assembling such a sterling staff of people to deal with your public on the front lines it goes on for some time like just just compliment really really complimentary of the uh the helpline people do you think this is somebody's mom who's just getting fed up with you know that's that's expensive she's calling a lot here's a matt boson which this is interesting matt boson from minnesota matt boson there is matt boson who what's the uh who's the shantae developer yeah who makes shantae way forward yeah way forward there is a matt boson is it spelled the same i thought it was oh wow yeah and brother of mark boson mark who used to work here on the nintendo team and matt boson does way forward i don't know if they're from minnesota but i think that i think the age lines up that is possible this could be a map matt if this is you please write in matt says i'm a beginning cartoonist and commercial artist who loves nintendo games and then he drew this little in the this little sketch of some enemies he says they're enemies from legend of zelda but that's like that goomba is that's a goomba yeah that's them in uh lynx awakening yeah there's a dark nut there's a moblin there's the not a zora but the sea creature yeah then the snakes is a little bit weird though yeah based on what he's typing there that sounds like a person who's about to go on to make to find a way forward i'm kind of thinking that this might be him i love his little art style that's awesome it looks like nintendo power which is the funny thing um you know cliffy b uh appeared in nintendo power like submitting a score that's funny uh someone says who's andrew from wald lake michigan says i have just purchased the most thrilling game ever zelda 2 the adventures of link the game is filled with very impressive graphics music and strategy i would recommend zelda 2 to everyone who owns an nes dude and then everyone got mad at you and everyone's like what this is nothing like zelda like the first one i like zelda i like zelda too really good music in zelda 2 all right they have the nintendo everybody would have argued whether it was an rpg or not well you know what um this is what i say this is june um from 89 but the previous holiday season 88 that we got mario 2 zelda 2 and castlevania 2 all that holiday season it's a hell of a season what a zag for all of those franchises that's actually a good point but would have been very happy with those at the time okay the nintendo power awards 88 these are the nester awards best graphics and sound was given to castlevania 2 simon's quest best challenge there best challenge was the original legend of zelda i'd probably give it to castlevania 2 again oh yeah but also like that's an 87 game so why not cool best theme or fun it was a super mario brothers 2 best play control super mario brothers 2 best character who they picked link they picked a link from zelda they're giving awards to themselves and these are pretty bad yeah these are pretty bad yeah these are pretty bad yeah these are pretty bad or good no they're pretty accurate yeah they are pretty best ending super mario brothers 2 i gotta it was a twist no one saw coming yeah best player versus player was blades of steel i love that we didn't have the word multiplayer back then however blades of steel also has a really good ending where everything's a dream spoilers sam spoilers for mario brothers and best overall game was zelda 2 which is surprising they wouldn't give it to super mario brothers 2 yeah yeah it seems like super mario bros 2 got more awards yeah i would rather play definitely like again i like it was the big game in my house i like zelda 2 but i would rather play super mario brothers 2 today 100 also what is this off-brand link in zelda here what oh they're cute oh just look at that four fingers okay there's a preview for life force which just looks so badass it's from the box oh yeah so badass and i just want to say volcanic stage yeah i if you zoom out a little bit joebert these are this is every boss in the game including the final boss So whenever we go through an old magazine and they do this, I will reiterate, this is why I will never think bosses are spoilers. Bosses are not spoilers. This is the Dark Souls issue. They're marketing points. I don't want to know that there's a big lion boss. Okay, well, this game showed you that the last boss is just a big embryo. Isn't Life Force a game that was also named Salamander? Salamander in the Japanese arcades. Gotcha, gotcha. Okay, and then go two pages forward and we have a preview for Mega Man 2. That just has the most delightful. Oh, man, that's so good. It looks so good, right? I just poured over this. I could probably recreate this spread from memory. I remember the level layouts and how cool it looks. Look at the screenshots there of the big dragon. It looks just like the art. Oh, I know, yeah. The little chibi art style is delightful. We were just talking about this last week, Nick. I would love for Capcom to make a Mega Man game that looks more like this. They made that one. They made that one on the PSP Mega Man Power Up. That was the closest, yeah. Why is he standing on a box of carrot bombs? Yeah, it's the rabbits throw carrots. Oh, that's cute. What a cut. He knows he's the final boss. He put himself right in the middle. Yeah. On the next page, more great art. And there's actually an exchange between Wily and Mega Man. What? No, not you. Hiya, Doc. I heard about what you're up to, and I've decided to pay you and your goons. It's a little visit. See you soon. Clearly still not the Japanese art, by the way. This is just some jackass with colored pencils over at Nintendo Power. They also show you all the robot masters here, too. This is just great magazine layout. Oh, I love at the bottom, Jobrit, it says, stay tuned for. That's never resolved. It just goes to another game on the next page. Stay tuned for. Hold on. I think the stay tuned for was Mega Man 3 stuff? But what do you mean? What's. I'm just looking at these bosses. These are all the two bosses. Wood Man, Quick Man, Bubble Man. Is it Flame Man they call him there? Is it possible to spoil a Mega Man game since it shows you all the bosses right up front? Exactly. Fan Man. Crash Man. And you see up in the left corner, they've given their own ratings, but then they have a blank one for the player to write in their ratings for, like, sound control challenge. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. I like it. They think the game's great. Now, this Fester's Quest preview is just. It's just baffling. What's happening here? There's a picture of the title screen from the old TV show at top, then a big arrow that points down that's over the sheet music for the theme song back down to the opening screen from Fester's Quest. What is the layout here? It's all about guard, dude. This was the style at the time. Which was the style? Looks like a Trapper Keeper. They're just saying that the TV show has been turned into a game. It's been adapted. Yeah, yeah. They're like, look, this is what it was. But it takes some leaps to get there. You know, I had this game. This is a Sunsoft game. Sunsoft also did Blaster Master. So if you look on the next page, the bosses in Fester's Quest go hard. Look at these guys. Oh, hell yeah. Damn. They look like Castlevania bosses. I know. They're awesome. Fester's Quest is pretty difficult, though, right? Like, that's a tough game. To be honest, I don't know if I ever made it to end with these bosses. No, I don't think I ever saw a boss in the game. But it's a good walking simulator. Those look like Resident Evil bosses. This is some Dark Souls stuff. Looks like the real Fester's Quest remake, Len. Yeah. Okay, the next one is interesting. It's Clash of Demon Head, which has an anime art style in the game, and I think on the Japanese box art. But, of course, they didn't want to do that at the time. So they created different sort of Western-style fantasy art for the box art. But now this is a third. Different art style that they're using here in this preview. It doesn't look like the game or the box art. Yep. Yep, yep, yep. Anyway. That's Clash of Demon. They just had these internal teams at Nintendo Power that got to do this art, and they must have been really into it. Think how much more successful Dragon Warrior, quote-unquote, would have been if they just used the Japanese art. You know, it's funny you mentioned Dragon Warrior, Nick, because on the next page, it's a two-page spread for Dragon Warrior that includes not a single screenshot. Yeah. It's all art? It's. Why were they so scared of showing you Dragon Warrior? It's too Japanese, Damon. The kids will never understand it. This is like 80s romance novel art. Yeah. I mean, it's D&D, and it's very funny. To be fair, this Western art is pretty badass. It is. This is the coolest fantasy Western art I've seen in a minute. Nobody signed it. It says Terra. This is what we all imagined while playing Dragon Quest, right? This is exactly what it looks like. Maybe they wouldn't want to show the overworld, but when you're in a battle. It looks good. This is like. Close-ups of cool monsters. Like, just show that. The slime's too cute. Kids don't want to kill that. Yeah, all the monsters are smiling. Experience the birth of a new era in role-playing adventure. The introduction of Dragon Warrior represents more than just the release of a new game. It marks the beginning of a new and different direction for NES games. They're really. They're really. I mean, they're not wrong, but they're just. They're a little too early. But didn't they basically give away. And then Final Fantasy ate their lunch. Didn't they. Well, in America. But didn't they. Didn't they give away Dragon Warrior, basically, to Nintendo Power subscribers? Yeah, you could. Subscribers got a free Nintendo. What a. What a dream. If I was. If I had grown up, like, you know, five years earlier, I would be. I would lose my mind if I got a free NES game. All we got were demo discs with the same Tony Hawk over and over again. Yeah, exactly. And Parappa. Changing the name to Dragon Warrior for the US was a strange move because everyone just called it Drawa. I always called it. Donrar. Next, we got the Counselor's Corner, and I love when they show the pictures of the counselors in the corner here. Tom. Tom at Conville. I mean, I'm just. This guy looks like he's, like, 45. But, of course, it's been established recently that people used to look older. That's 100% true. A 70s 13 looks like a 40. Yeah. That's amazing. That's a rough 45. Yeah, so. But look what his hobbies are. It all makes sense. He's keeping young with his mathematics. Mathematics and cartooning. I love how they put their highest game score. Yeah. And his favorite NES game is Gradius. Eh, he's got good taste. Yeah. You think he rounded up? Oh, yeah. The next is the winner of a writing contest. People wrote stories, and then Nintendo Power picked the winner, and this one wrote a story about he would go into his Zelda or Zelda 2 game, and he was friends with Link, and the story is called Friends. He actually goes into his television. That's pretty cute. Yeah. And it starts with lunch, and that's why there's a sandwich. There's a sandwich on the page. He tries not to eat all of his lunch because he takes the food to Link. I don't know why Link can't get his own food, but Link will starve to death. This kid does not deliver my peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Dude, this is like the first isekai in America. He gets transported to another world. I love it. Oh, look. This is from San Jose, California. There you go. Bay Area. Okay, top 30. I'll count down the top 10. This is. One of them was. This is, you know, they would give these games scores and I think it's based on their surveys and retailers and their own picks anyway. And what they wanted to push in front of people too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's completely ridiculous. The top 10 of this month would be number 10, Rampage, then Metroid, then Bionic Commando, Metal Gear, Blaster Master, Track and Field 2, Contra, and then the top three are Zelda, Mario 2, and Zelda 2. Man, Metal Gear. I mean, just like some of the absolute best games of the whole system. Metal Gear on NES, though, not a good game. MSX. The MSX version is so much better. Yeah. It's just hard to figure out. I just remember, it's not the Kojima one. You can smoke cigarettes in it. I feel asleep. I feel asleep. I feel asleep. Someone set us up the bomb. In the classified information, they have the great trick for Blaster Master with the extended grenade. Does everyone know this trick? No, no, please. You have grenades in it. Yes, where you hit the pause. Yeah, if you pause the game while your grenade is exploding, it'll just keep exploding and doing damage. It's like the Mega Man boss thing where you kill the yellow eye guy by pausing and unpausing very quickly. That's very cool. That's good. And then they have their own extracurricular activities. What was the big movie of 89? Sam should know. No, well, now you know. I'm seeing it now. You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight, Sam? Batman. I would have been 11 years old at this time. It's hard to explain what a big deal Batman was at the time. Movies don't become phenomenons anymore the way this was a phenomenon back then. Everyone had Batman. It was crazy. And it was completely made by a crazy, out-of-the-blue artiste. And it had no right to be such a great action movie. And it was weird. It was also weird. It's a gorgeous-looking movie, still to this day. It is a little bit weird. Watching it today, you're like, this movie's odd. Not bad. It's odd. But it's odd. It's hyper-stylized in a way that I think, as a child, I took for granted because this was on repeat on my VHS back then. And now I look at it, and I was like, oh my gosh, this is like a neo-noir masterpiece. And then Returns doubles down on the weirdness, right? So it kind of freaked out the studios, I think, but it did great. But none of these are as weird as The Mask. Oh man, The Mask. Also on repeat on my family VHS. There's a bad video game based on that for Super Nintendo. I'm trying to think, had he only done. The Batman NES game's great, though. It is good. So he had already done Beetlejuice at this point. He'd done. Pee-wee's Big Adventure, and Beetlejuice. And then Batman was his third feature film. What a back-to-back. though i mean yeah i mean he kept it going with yeah uh i guess he did edward sister hands in between batman and batman returns was ed wood man all-time favorite that was his inception yeah that's awesome yeah uh and the next they interview a star of 21 jump street holly robinson and i just love this she says oh she says gumshoe is my all-time favorite game whoa is that a brand new sentence gumshoe is a light original a light gun game for nes where a platformer wait but it's an auto scroller and you have to shoot the gumshoe detective to get him to jump that's her favorite game of all time she's just chill as hell that's awesome yeah yeah i don't know i think maybe that's the only i mean there is a novelty to that i can understand like oh i get to shoot at the screen like i can see that being that that game was behind the interviewer you the next segment is another male segment called video spotlight where people write in and they just brag about how great they are at games it's like jeremy says i consider myself a power player i just solved zelda 2 in a week and a day this is just one of my many accomplishments i've solved super mario brothers jackal legend of zelda jaws renegade legend of kage kari warriors and goonies too i've also beaten mike tyson and mike tyson's punch out and finished metroid and kid icarus six times i've also reached the end of russian attack in castlevania it goes on for like i just i'm i've solved the games as i've never heard that phrase before i've always said beat yeah but maybe before that was really established people would say i saw i heard people say i finished or i completed or what's this guy's name this is an uh jeremy jeremy it's a british thing sam sam mark you gotta hit up jeremy let's let's get him on the ig needs to touch grass this reads exactly like our youtube comment section post gameplay oh i've i've i've solved crimson desert anyway that's that whole segment there oh there's more on the next page which one did i want to read here oh yeah uh myra i think when you asked for power players my uncle and i got together with the rest of the family and friends to set up our nes defeating force club we now have a total of 14 members we have many cartridges and are getting more all the time for almost two months we competed for our first annual power play and we're going to be playing a lot of games and we're going to be playing a lot of games and we're going to be playing a lot of games and we're going to be playing a lot of games we chose my uncle an all-around good guy ronald e munar he has to be the best player in pasadena i have not seen anyone beat him yet i guess that's why we unit unanimously nominated him for president of our club it goes on for some time like that too what is it defeating force club that's pretty good what does that mean they defeat the nes i defeated super mario brothers 2 yeah this is a gold mine this is where we are this is where we should be harvesting talent yeah i love i love this world where it's like a very defined like i asked one of my friends the other day like do you think i'm the best marvel rivals player on my block so it's like i love this i love this i want to i want to say yes i think i think that ended with super smash brothers melee because everyone was the best at super smash brothers melee within their friend group and then once they got exposed to the real world they're like no i'm not you get humbled real quick 89 this would be the year the game boy was released probably probably a pretty big deal if we turn the page this is the back of the magazine here's how the game boy was unveiled they unveiled it this way have you ever secretly dreamed really it's at the bottom of the page have you ever secretly dreamed you could put your nes in your pocket so that you could play it wherever you go well our dreams are about to come true as nintendo will soon be introducing game boy it is a portable game system that is about the size of a walkman and uses interchangeable game packs titles already announced are super mario land alleyway and baseball there is an incredible network feature that allows you to hook two game boys together you'll get an all-new type of two player competition as you each view the action on your own system game boy will also feature built-in gameplay controls and personal earphones that transmit in all caps stereo sound scheduled for late summer hot very hot hot very hot that's how they revealed the game that's the game no idea they had no idea what they had dude i still i'm still getting like chills reading like imagine reading this for the first time as a kid you're like what they got they made it portable look how they like used like a piece of paper inside that photo of the game boy to get it to look like exactly they've got baseball on there yeah and they made it look like it looks like an lcd dude i love super mario yeah it looks more like lcds i like super mario mario land is so good i like super mario land a lot so hard is this before they got the rights to tetris because you would think that they would they would talk about that except tetris was not a known quantity right and they can't say we've got this cool game from russia that's not going to go over very well in 1989 maybe people knew the atari game by then those are the highlights the no i don't think so did you force though mccarthyism is going to shut down nintendo if they reveal a game from russia those are highlights from the may and june 1989 issue of nintendo power real quick before 20 questions extracurricular activities i think it's going to be a lot of fun i think it's going to be a lot of fun i think it's going to be a lot of fun i think it's going to be a lot of fun i think it's going to be a lot of fun mall shadow lord has anyone else watched this you've gotten me interested but is it worth watching yep it's good it starts out awesome starts out you're like okay this is good the relatively low bar that has been set for star wars on disney plus it's it's it's surpassed this this is good but by the end of it you're like okay all right everybody let's let's do this is good let's do this i've seen a lot of stuff of uh like sam witwer who's the voice actor of darth maul who also is the character model and voice actor for um star killer from uh force unleashed force unleashed there's a there's a lot of comparisons of like imagery of darth maul doing a lot of star killer poses which i would assume is 100 intentional which also got me kind of hyped to check this out so i think you got me i'm gonna watch this they do an interesting artistic choice but the lightsabers appear to bend when they're being uh swung fast that's kind of cool and you just you don't ever see that in the movies so i don't i don't like you're seeing it there yeah i don't hate or or or uh like it's like the trailing light yeah it's just interesting this is a bad scene yeah that's it episode four and uh it does have a little bit of a slow start but the slow start is good because it's more like it's like adult situations it's like they're talking about this cop and his family and like you know the escape from jail and like all these things are like just a little bit surprising it's it ain't the clone wars no but the back half of the series is not slow it's like non-stop lightsaber battles yeah all right yeah it also introduces not one but two great new droids yeah two the first droid that i know is super cool yeah it's good it's really good it's it's good very very good star wars on disney plus all right that brings us to video game 20 questions our suggestion this week comes from marcus in chicago who says if you ever want to throw redacted a bone when they make a game scoop appearance i'd recommend picking redacted and with that let the questioning begin well so it's either me or nick because we're the only ones that with a rotate make appearances uh and so it's probably me it's probably in mario 64 is it mario first ever scoop in one question is this game from the 70s 80s or 90s no not mario 64 uh let's see here hey i want to guess the redacted is that legal like can i can i yes yeah are you gonna lie i guess well actually no no because then what's the point of redacting let's not let's not allow that we can't we can't metagame it so it's so it's illegal is this based on a license no unlicensed 2000s onward i don't i don't play that many licensed games is this game from japan no just talked about how much you played marvel rivals so then now this is this is a mark game then if it's not from japan what's it oh it's not oh it's not from japan i mean they used to be the only thing i played back in the back in the 90s not from japan not from japan and so it's a 2000 onward we have 26 years to come through on this game have a sequel that's coming out or out already on the playstation 5 generation no is this game still relevant to this day what do you mean i mean is this is this part of a franchise yeah no that's fine not part of a franchise whoa okay was this game exclusive to the platform it came out on uh at for for a time got it okay um is this game at with the prior question in mind um was this a xbox in the xbox family of consoles no okay same question nintendo no well playstation it wouldn't go exclusive off of nintendo usually unless it was resiable 4 unless it was resiable 4 it's a zombie you um so it's a sony okay so it was was playstation we we need to figure out where we're at in these 26 years of is this in was this out on an even numbered playstation system no oh okay either ps1 ps3 or five this a ps3 game no that's 10 is this a playstation 1 game no oh my gosh okay so it's a ps5 there's no sequel on the ps5 because it's and it's the first of it's it's not part of a franchise so it's the first one and it's not from japan it sounds like it went to pc shortly after something yeah maybe it's a yeah yeah yeah returnal maybe um could be yeah okay what is the studio is it first party uh is that hold on hold on hold on hold on you can ask if sony published it are they are they yeah that's the question you want to ask because i was going to ask what if they're first party now why don't you just ask if it was developed by gorilla or who's the returnal house mark house mark gorilla gorilla or house mark is developed by gorilla is it developed by gorilla house mark or naughty dog or bend or bend or bend no the answer is no what what okay so it's sony santa monica it's gotta be monica studios uh yeah but but i can't i mean they have not released any games that like i wouldn't consider god of war ragnarok oh well that's part of it like franchises and stuff um yeah oh it could be what if it's dreams it could be media molecules five right oh that's not ps5 that's ps4 what did media molecule do for ps5 uh nothing i don't know if they've done anything i can't recall wait no did they make the the sackboy adventure game was that media molecule sackboy's adventure that was um yeah well i can't remember i think it's media molecule could also be insomniac but legit though what if sony didn't publish this game because we just don't yeah yeah did sony did sony publish oh do we not want to ask that then no i think you should ask it because it doesn't sound like they did it sounds like published sony published game yes sony published this game okay uh it could be no man's sky it's just i wouldn't consider that a ps5 game true yeah and it's on everything it's for a game but not a launch it wasn't how many questions you asked 13 questions 13 questions all right yes five not part of a franchise not from sorry what was the question about oh japan okay so then it could be like shift up true stellar blade oh yeah oh and it was ported to pc right and if the redacted is mark is yeah i mean there you go this all aligns is this game from korea yes that's stellar blade it's 100 is the game well let's ask is this game a star an actual model for the model uh is it the is the star of the game modeled after the developer's wife yes okay is the game stellar blade it is stellar yeah we did it don't know if she's technically a model okay i think she's a professional model but yeah yep stellar blade good game what a game the redacted was marked what a great game yeah i figured they wanted to throw you a bone with stellar blade oh and they did they did which was a great game never had before but we have had three other games uh with blade in the title that would be muramasa the demon blade last year infinity blade in 2023 and blades of steel in 2022. nice cool wait i remember not getting stellar stellar blade i mean there there is a sequel in development but obviously they haven't really like announced it they just are working on the next stellar blade game so yeah i'm looking for honestly i i was surprised by how much i enjoyed this game great soundtrack this is it's kind of like incredible soundtrack it's kind of like pragmata like it's like yeah like when we say just video game ass video game like that's what this is just yeah it's just fun there's no no fluff to it it's not overstuffed it's just just a fun adventure you can do in like 15 hours you could beat it in yeah 15 hours every zone has like the next best song your next favorite song is in the next zone it's very near the story is a little you know you know well yeah i mean they've had crossovers with near and everything yeah yeah also none of her outfits seem particularly strategic yeah yeah i think the guy who did the music for near is the guy who did the music for oh okay keiichi okabe i don't know about that well anyway nicely job thank you for the suggestion marcus in chicago viewers listeners if you have your own suggestions for video game 20 questions email them to me at the email address gamescoop at ign.com and i wanted to let you know we've got a new spot for us all to hang out and talk about all things game scoop please join the brand new ign discord to connect with us your favorite scoop posts will as well as scoop fans will all be hanging out there from around the world be a great place to share your conversations around 20 questions suggest music for me to use on the show we'll be there chatting uh you know putting up polls and more and more as time goes by so link uh i'll put the link in the episode description but join the ign discord and we will see you there i guess we'll solve games with you all yep some fan art we're all going to be nintendo counselors for you your own personal nintendo counselors yeah it'll be good well that's all the scoops we have for you this week thank you nick thank you sam thank you mark thank you to joebert working behind the scenes to make this episode possible my name is damon this is ig and game scoop and we're out did you hear about our devastating loss on beat and fiji 20 questions last week no devastating what happened oh boy all right so uh first of all we had to we had swung in miranda at the last minute and she did a good job this is my fault um we got we got to the game so what happened was that we found out it was a game about crime that was based on a license from the ps2 era okay they ruled out godfather yeah they ruled out scarf well yeah i mean those are kind of like we you know yeah i guess it's ps2 like we were ruling out those by the eras of them we actually ended up finding out that it wasn't a game but it was like a 70s or 80s crime movie which was really helpful um so right at the end i was like this sounds like it's a reservoir dogs game but like that's a ridiculous idea and then maybe that is what it is and then we said that was the last thing i said it sounds like it's reservoir dogs but i don't know if that existed well what is it damon it was right now what do you do in the reservoir dogs game i think you just do the gas man is it reservoir dogs and then it's you know but you know why would they ever make that it's a rhythm game to cut off an ear they have a they have the likeness of some of the actors but not all and none of the voice talents it's a really weird it's weird michael madsen did the voice scene and they they keep on they keep on taking me off twitch very strange well hopefully this week can be better good in in uh fortunate news i have floors again which is pretty sick good good florissa horizon florissa horizon indeed yeah you have like a did you say you were upstairs where the leak was i'm in the middle floor of my apartment and all through uh the apartment above me and the apartment below me and my apartment all flooded i got back from vacation i went ah where did it start from our kitchen sink but it's because it's a shared pipe so somebody was putting stuff in their sink that they should they were putting like a cooking oil and coffee grounds because i'm like yeah yeah but how did it flood the up above you that's a great question i don't really know the logistics of it i just know i got looped into an email chain with the hoa and then like all of the owners of the different apartments saying hey uh my tenant just got back from a vacation there was another dude on vacation at the same time no way uh but just yeah it was all three apartments so they're fixing you you don't have like a pet or anything though do you i do but he was uh being babysat by my parents in a flood free home i just can't imagine like a cat home alone oh my gosh that's my god it's closing in nightmare we did try there is a new mexican place in my town i can't decide if it's really really good or just salty i don't know i mean you know how it is that's the truth isn't it you're right like you eat like some refried beans and you're like damn these are good and you're like wait they're also just like maybe like super salty which salt is good so like maybe that's salt is good salt is good it is good okay it's yo i fucks with salt the fuck is on my screen right now well they're like LARPing right but they aren't doing anything they're all just standing around it's a siege they're waiting it's a siege dude this i would love what are they waiting for for nightfall dude they're gonna wait for the sword soldiers they've already cut off supply lines horse they're waiting for people to starve so that they could attack when they're the weakest that's dirty they just get really hangry when they run out of pizza the long the long game they're playing sieve right now that should be an ign outing right there i'll suggest this to the uh yeah i just went to a ren i just went to a ren fair with jober and it was the worst experience jober had nothing to do with why it was bad it was the sun oh was it hot fuck yeah dude it was so hot it was the worst yeah that makes for a lot of stinky nerds yeah but i told you guys i said i said it on the chat the other uh the other day it was great some guy walks up and he goes oh mark i love you in game school that's great just out of nowhere just i was in line and then we're like we're like this is jober and he's like oh shit he was so excited that's cute i think we were in line to shoot bows and arrows bow and arrows yeah luckily he left before he saw that because i i don't think i'd be his favorite game scooper after that mark sucks at shooting bow and arrow dude yeah i learned that in real time i like this new table setup yeah this is nice this is cozy okay i think we're ready to go we have a we have a wide shot yet hold on do we hold on the reveal i think there is a light directly in front of the wide nope that's not a live you guys look great i mean it's not live but that's what you guys are sitting at right now yeah i'm shocked it looks exactly like 65 second streets like first podcast yeah yeah it does sam kim brought me a nintendo redmond shirt home that's oh that's awesome and it's really cool that it's like from the actual internal redmond shop it's fucking cool just brought home like 10 dittos they've got dittos like like changed into other pokemon oh those are so cute i love those i have a snorlax ditto with the gengar one's my favorite oh yeah yeah it's basically gengar with those derpy eyes right yep okay we're ready to go okay uh damon i'll count you in in five four three two and on you online deal days are back at kroger don't miss your chance for extra savings when you shop pickup or delivery you can save 30 on your first online order of 75 or more with your digital coupon plus enjoy unlimited free delivery by starting a boost free trial today but hurry these extra savings end october 20th restrictions apply see site for details kroger fresh for everyone at zocdoc we know you care about your health you wouldn't do that early morning cardio if you didn't so the fact that your annual physical is overdue just shows how hard it can be to get seen by a doctor sorry that doctor's not a network press one for more options you've reached us outside normal business hours the next availability is in 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