Game Scoop! 852: Mario Is Missing

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And then when I ate some, I got a tummy ache because it was really early for me in the time zone. like i'm happy for the donkey kong fans that's not just stop there don't go any further okay okay okay i'll throw in my hands it's like i'm a very particular kind of mario fan and i think what they're doing here is since this is this does feel so much more aimed at kids which again makes sense with illumination um around this instead i see a bigger push on their toys yeah it's always a good point there's a big like install base is like not looking like they want it to look for a game that probably should only be on the switch to probably that could be as well i also i mean you might be onto something miranda or like maybe they're maybe they're deliberately like no look we want to have a big mario beat every year and maybe they don't want the games in the movie stepping on each other yeah i think that there's like a clear delineation there and like they just want to let them have fun with what mario and how that exists in the movies and let the games be its own thing and have like a celebration of okay now you've seen the mario look at all these mario games we have for you and back that up we have data you know when we are publishing data at ign we can see that a bunch of people are playing um super mario obviously and super mario wonder right now so there is you know an increased excitement does that translate to views or i mean sales um it would be nice if it did but i wouldn't trust that i would want to put out a flash you do mario games remember the ds age when every month for five years the top selling ds game was new super mario brothers right like they they've shown that they can sustain interest in a game for a very long time as long as they're as long as new people buy the console and you know like they're the i think the difference with switch 2 is that switch 1 was such a huge success that selling the same games again might not create that same effect and it's been obviously very recent that mario uh wonder wonder came out like relatively no but the the funny thing about this is when they announced uh the movie's title being mario galaxy and by the by the way the movie is equally mario odyssey as mario galaxy when it comes to like references like you saw the trailer playing it was like some of the locations are from odyssey not from from galaxy when they announced that everybody's like oh that means they'll be super mario galaxy 3 for sure they're gonna have this tie-in game and i i think we're just learning that that's not how it works and so when i heard this rumor about the starfox game coming i was like oh this is the same thing they like they know starfox is in the movie and so somebody's either making up the movie or like wishing for it and they're like oh this is the same thing they're like they know starfox is in the movie and so somebody's either making up the movie or they're like oh this is the same thing they're like oh this is the same thing they're like oh this is the same thing they're wishing into existence a new starfox game and then nintendo you know maybe does starfox 99 or something tiny you know so speaking uh via his podcast this is from our piece uh need the hate so that nintendo's new starfox game would be announced in april and has and it's april right now and uh had been intended as a surprise reveal following the character's just uh confirmed appearance in the super mario galaxy movie where we mentioned here that his voice by glenn powell i don't even remember his voice being significant in that the movie but um and then the original quote from where this all originated from from actually a podcast is that uh starfox is coming back in summer 2026 we're getting a new starfox game in the very near future i've been told it's a classic style starfox game and that the visuals are supposed to be very good and i've heard it does have online multiplayer so that that's a lot of detail about a potential starfox game i don't i don't care about a new starfox game oh my god i mean i just i don't i mean whatever like i'll play anything but it's like i've never been like starfox 64 i guess i played a lot of but like these on rails 3d shooters are just not not my thing did you see the movie yet justin no no oh okay well you will i saw i saw project hail mary instead you'll probably that's a good choice yeah it is a better movie but the the starfox stuff is is awesome in the movie really like it and did make me i really i really liked it i really liked it but um it really made me want to play another starfox it's a lot of fun and it's a lot of fun and it's a lot of fun it's a lot of fun it's a lot of fun it's a lot of fun a lot of footage from different games here like starfox 2 which was a cancelled game as well as you know what was once dinosaur planet starfox adventures um that nintendo tried a lot of different different things because these on rail shooters have fallen out of favor with you know the likes of justin davis and so they don't sell that well anymore and and redoing starfox 64 is obviously not something they wanted to do they they added strategy elements for the handheld one they did a remake of starfox 64 and they did a remake of starfox 64 and they did a remake of starfox 64 and they did a remake of 64 on the 3ds and then they tried you know an action adventure 64 on the 3ds and then they tried you know an action adventure like zelda and putting the starfox like zelda and putting the starfox like zelda and putting the starfox license in that one and then the most recent game license in that one and then the most recent game was they handed it over to the namco guys was they handed it over to the namco guys was they handed it over to the namco guys like who know how to make a good ace combat like who know how to make a good ace combat like who know how to make a good ace combat game but then told namco you got to have this game but then told namco you got to have this crazy control scheme where people have to look at two screens and like a lot of people didn't like it it was a pretty decent game but but i also just i know i know it doesn't work this way so don't commenters i know this isn't reality but like i can't help shape you know shake the feeling that if if like like there's these slots for b-tier nintendo games and that like now starfox is filling a slot that like could have been f-zero it's like bring back f-zero bring back advanced which is the mario odyssey argument right it's like mario odyssey 2 is taking donkey kong's taking up that slot they brought back f-zero it's f-zero 99 yeah they did it they did a new f-zero and they they decided graphics aren't everything i'm by the way i'm a huge f-zero fan some of my favorite games i love gx and maybe a better example is excite truck then that's a good one or battalion wars or something like that yeah no that's true excite truck excite truck was an excite bike series game that was a wii launch title which you controlled trucks by tilting the wii controller in and so you know that was like a waggle was all the rage at the time and then they followed it with a game called excite bots which is trucks transforming into robot excite excite box is an underrated game they're they're all actually good they're they're good games um yeah it's just like people people don't want these and just what's in the name i see a jeep on top of a mountain i want that yeah that's that's what i do with my in my games i just go on top of the mountains it's my entire goal i just want to go all the way up but like skyline vertically f-zero wayphrase starfox these have never been the top sellers and you're right like they're not b-tier games from a quality perspective but like they're they're sort of niche genres um i'm i'm curious don't you think they like look at this and they say we need a graphical showcase for our new system we need a multiplayer game for our new system and then this checks the boxes because splatoon doesn't quite and so then they're trying to use starfox to just get those things onto the platform maybe it's also possible that yeah but they need a graphical showcase well did they ever say that i think so i think i think for donkey kong like after going to that talk at um gdc it did seem like they wanted to you know show off this tech in the game maybe it wasn't a graphical showcase but it's tech but i think metroid prime was the general i think that was it right like showing it off at 120 frames per second that was i think making the the point on the on the graphical side no but like the thing with um starfox is where would they take it and i i do think it's basically hey the ace combat team is done with their game right they've got a new game take it to the lilac system you know let's carve out a portion of that team to work on uh use maybe that same engine on a starfox game again it's always the only question is how are they going to use the mouse controls because god hopefully that's that's nintendo's thing right now is like so whenever i think of nintendo and new games i don't think they're going for graphics i always think they want to say like what how do we use this system's gimmick in our game in a fun or interesting way yeah yeah and that doesn't always come across well but it can sometimes and that's sort of one of the things what if the gimmick for this is chat though you know and they just really play up chat like they'll do stuff like that and i say this with love as a big nintendo fan but there's such a there's such a strange funny company like going all the way back to the wii they were talking about like a feature was like the the power draw of the console like it's only gonna it's only gonna cost your household forty dollars to have this console small compared to the hundred dollars of the xbox and every kid's like what i don't care i want to that's totally true i want to play this again i have like in my mind i keep thinking this game the this game we're looking at the uh uh the wii u one the wii u game uh zero um yeah starfox assault right yeah and and it it it's it's kind of it's just like we're watching a very slow drone flying around you have to look at uh at the tablet it's actually that's a let's play with me and my kids and they they're fighting over the game like because one one guy is playing like an idiot um and it's like the the wii u tablet is used for sort of like a second screen like a camera built into the drone it's a really cool idea but it's just annoying to play but in my mind i'm now i'm now wondering maybe it's better than i give it credit for and maybe i have to dig up my well we should move on from starfox but there it's just been a long time since i've played a rogue squadron type game where it has almost like arena size levels with a lot of movement that you're not really on rails in and you get to kind of make decisions and and go war hawk yeah what 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So there's an opportunity for that would be quite nice if I'm right about that. The game looks incredible already. So like up-resing that game or doing whatever, adding little levels or whatever, like is bring it on. Like, I love, I love that game. And then, and then obviously, like, I don't know if we're gonna talk about it, but like the Zelda, the Ocarina of time remake, man, it's crazy. Like, do we, is it gonna be like, what does that mean? Does that mean like, you know, an Ocarina of time remake, or does it mean like a breath of the wild style? No, a hundred percent. I wanted to give pear his birthday shout out to, uh, to talk about rhythm, Heather heaven, but we can move on to Zelda. Okay. Sorry. Heaven is very important. It is. You're right. You're right. I jumped the gun. I'm also very excited about rhythm heaven. Well, I don't tell me about this series cuz I, I isn't related to elite beat agents and stuff. I played one of them, but it was like on. It's, it's hard to explain. I mean, pair, do you wanna take it? You, you press it's it's like it, it, you, you tap in the rhythm and it's a one button game, but it's just so cute and charming and all the little mini games are so fun. It is. Yeah, that's, that's the best way to describe it. It's like, it's like complete, complete nonsense. Uh, with just sort of part of the experience is just how silly and whimsical the animations are and the music and the, the sort of like the, how the characters react to it. Um, you guys never played 'em. Yeah, I have one. I played 'em all. Oh yeah, I played, play, play the heck out of those. Miranda. There you go. Well, here we go. I love rhythm games. The perfect panel. I love them. Yeah. Well, so this one is 40 bucks, which is sounds like a good deal. Perfect. Uh, out pretty soon. And, um, uh. Uh, what, what was the release date? It was July, July 2nd. Yes. So look how perfect that is. No, like honestly, like once you, you have, you have to hear this with, with, with audio. Um, obviously there's, there's this sort of silly, like everybody opens their mouth and adds to the harmony sort of like, it's, it's just fun that the, the rhythm is created by household item noises and things in some of the stages, it's just really fun to listen to. And just complete nonsense. Goofiness like, why are you aware? Yep. Great game. Okay. So, uh, back to Justin. So let's talk Zelda. How should a Ocarina of time remake even go down? You know, these are the kinds of questions that, that I think everybody's asking who's making it as another big one. And then, um, cause I I'm sure it's farmed out and then, uh, and just real quick as an intro, we did an, is it still fun episode on this, uh, including, uh, members of this panel, Miranda and Perry, you both. Revisited this game. Yeah. Did you say yes? Yes. Yeah. I believe we all said yes, but the camera sucks, but once you get used to it, you're okay. It doesn't have, it doesn't have a camera cause they use, you know, they basically don't have a second stick for it. So, well, I think it's lucky too, with a fishing pole in this too, right? It's Z targeting. Yeah. Yeah. You have to lock onto things, which is then, then they reuse that, that same concept for Metroid prime. Yeah. Justin, do you have a pitch for what the best version of a, of a. Ocarina of time remake could be? I don't know. I've been thinking, I like, you know, I'm thinking about the next Zelda game as we all are just, I wake up in the morning. I wonder what the next Zelda game is going to be. Um, and like, I, I don't think they can roam. Like, I, I think that we're this new, you know, open world, Zelda, open field, Zelda. That's here to stay in my opinion. Like, is it going to here to stay forever? I don't know, but like, that's what Zelda is now, but I don't think that they could reuse that high rule for a third time. I think whatever they do next needs to be. Something new unless it's, and so then it got me wondering, I'm like, maybe, maybe someone, some trusted developer, like a Bandai Namco or someone has that, you know, tears of the kingdom engine and is going to remake Ocarina in that, like that's the pie in the sky, like grandiose, like insane version of what they're doing. And what's maybe more likely as someone's just remaking Ocarina more kind of like straight up, like just like, you know, like, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. The 3ds remake is actually pretty substantial. When you, when you look at the, they didn't just retexture the game. They, they actually, uh, updated a lot of things. It's funny. Like when you go behind the scenes and you look at how the farm is constructed, you know, the farm at the center of the open world where you get it right. Like the way lawn lawn ranch is constructed in the, in the N 64 game, it's completely different from the 3ds game in the 3ds game. You can actually see outside of the farm. Whereas like in the N 64. Game, it's almost like a room you enter and it has to load it at like, you know, into memory outside, it's like geographically smaller, exactly like an object on the field. And so 3ds 3ds really was a remake, but they stuck so close to the, the quest design and the, the geometry that it did feel more like a remaster where it was just a prettier version. They did, they smoothed out some things, um, where people got stuck as well. And so I would love a real remake, like the way Capcom has been doing them, because I know this game is the game of our heart. I know, I know everything, every key, every door, what I have to do. And so I want a couple of surprises that, um, yes, where things are different and maybe there is an, maybe there's an extra dungeon in the mix that we hadn't gotten before, or maybe all of the heart containers are in different places, you know, well, master quest did that too, but like, like for, for real, like actually mix up the game a little bit more, make it a true remake. Yeah. A hundred more skull toll is to find. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, those were really cool. Uh, it was a little annoying in the original game. You can go into the first dungeon and you hear them, but you can't collect them cause you don't have the bombs yet. Right? Like those are the sort of things that I think a modern Nintendo would not do. Um, so if they, if they smooth these things out and then give us some extra new discoveries, um, to surprise us, I think that'd be awesome. Do you have a sense that Zelda now means something different to a younger generation and that this might not match those. Expectations? And I don't think echoes of Winston. Oh, for sure. I mean, we, my daughter's 12 and breath of the wild and Tuesday kingdom are her favorite video games of all time. And like, you know, like she would be, she'd be very, very excited to play an Ocarina of time remake. And then I guess I wouldn't say like, oh, she's definitely not going to like it or whatever. Like, but, but it's going to be very different, right? Like it wouldn't meet your expectations for like what this franchise means to her. Think of going up death mountain. You can't climb the rock wall. You have to go up. You can't, you can't jump over the fence. You have to throw a bomb over the fence to open to donkos cavern. Right? Like unless, unless you can, right. Unless it's going to be one of the other, it's going to be like the resident evil remakes, like you said, that follows the spirit of the original games, or it's going to be in the engine of the new games. And they're just like, it's a, it's a retelling. Yeah. Yeah. I have a hard time thinking of what I would want. Cause I think there are like, as you guys said, the 3ds version did a good job of smoothing out some points that were kind of an issue before. there is a way to still, I think, make this a game where there is a set order of operations with some variability and still have it be fun for the people who enjoyed cheers the kingdom and breath of the wild like i think there's a middle ground there that they could find and if they do that i think that would please a lot of people but would that make the best game that's like the question right so let me let me pitch some ideas that are crazy what if it's a d make and it is in the link to the links awakening style thing like a little 2d top-down version oh i hate that okay i would like it i don't want that either okay i would be really angry about that two to one we lose that one we did that twice and they did they did that for games that were tight like leaks awakening was tile based right and so there was a reason for sticking with that sort of geometry whereas like ocarina of time is like the the this is one of the early games of an overworld beings just feeling more organic and i wouldn't want them to put that back on a grid people have tried like mod d makes of this game and like total sprites before too which is just cute to see so then another one would be that uh the breath of the wild map has all the elements are a lot most maybe all of the elements geographically at this game they're they're they're in similar places lan lan ranch is actually ruins in the middle of hyrule field so to justin's point about like can they reuse this map again could they tell the ocarina story in breath of the wild the ocarina story that you're playing that's awkward yeah that's kind of what i was like it's that's that's i'm not saying i think it's going to be that but like there's there's if we're speculating options like yeah i would say that's one of them that would be so awesome if they used the the approach of breath of the wild or tears of the kingdom to recreate this world just larger with you know like hylia where it belongs and death mountain where it belongs and that would give you the surprises because what's between these two is that you're playing a world that's a little bit different and you're playing a world that's a little bit different but you're playing a world that's a little bit different because what's between them is new yeah right yeah but but the thing i think go ahead and run oh god i was going to say that the big thing though is like they have to get the music right because that's such a core and critical part of this game and i think adding to that is going to be a big challenge not that they can't do it because i think they've obviously proved they have great and the the other thing i i'm very fond of is the item gating right like the the classic zelda former formula was more like a um it was like a metroidvania right in that you had to you saw the hookshot targets all over the place and once you got the hook shot you went oh i understand now what they mean what that means and then you you get this excitement over wanting to go back into places you couldn't access before and like that obviously doesn't exist the same way in breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom because you can climb anything the limiting factor is it's raining here all the times you gotta get some rubber boots or something but like it doesn't have that sort of true item gating gameplay and i don't i don't want to lose that no it's it's so such a great feature of the older games then even after ocarina they improved on it by like you know by now the items unlock shortcuts and let you you don't have to do this big arduous climb in the future you can skip right past it like oh man there's a lot of or not a lot of that but there is some element of like change in the world that they had with tears of the kingdom as you like cleared areas or improved areas like the central town kind of hub where everyone was meeting up like that changed pretty well um and and certain people changed based on how you cleared stuff and i so i think i mean that exists in ocarina of time already but i think they could do more of that and to make it interesting or like opening new paths if it's not necessarily item gated might be people gated by like specific access to stuff it's like there's some ways they can still play with that without having it to be so stringent on items if they do want to keep exploration really open yep and then i'll play this remake whatever it is yeah exactly i know that's the thing they don't have to do anything they don't have to lift a finger for me to play it yeah hey i want to share one more funny anecdote real quick i was watching a youtube video about ocarina of time you know i've played the game many times in my life i know it very well i never knew and i never clocked that in hyrule field the border of hyrule field it's this blurry it's the n64 right it's this texture that's like you know no pixels at all i didn't know that was supposed to be like trees oh my god so funny it's a it's like it's like a forest it's like a forest of trees that like link can't pass through and like some youtuber pointed that out and i for some reason it just never crossed my mind i never thought about what it was like i just thought like that's just you just can't go there so anyway it's funny they're thick they had to i mean they they're so the wonderful thing about ocarina of time is like how many tricks they had to employ to actually pull this game off right like the sort of where it loads when you go around a corner and and the geometry actually changes right like you see death mountain in the distance it's not the geography of death mountain that you get when you approach it whereas like in breath of the wild the mountain in the distance is the mountain that you can climb and and it's just it's there and so like remaking this game means almost like making a 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remake as long as it had them both you could play through them with some kind of continuity almost like banjo kazooie's promise of the ice key and stuff like that you know because there are elements like the masks are are in the first game like i don't know just time together that'd be sick okay let's play a game shall we uh the first game we're gonna play is uh called real mature ign uh it's where we look at esrb ratings i actually retitled this game you chose fantasy violence but uh we'll go with the real mature ign we're gonna look at some esrb rating descriptions that all have a connection to a game coming out this year i'm gonna read them a little bit out of order to hide some of the stuff about them you're gonna try to guess what they are i'm gonna do uh the you know these are direct quotes from the esrb yesrb rating site for people that don't live in uh esrb territory the same as peggy where uh we rate games from teen to mature to everything and um there's these descriptions for parents you can see what's in the game and they're pretty lurid they're kind of funny they're not very mature so uh uh i'll slowly reveal these games are try to guess them and then we'll discuss the connection to this year's games so here's the first one all right to quote the esrb players use psychic abilities e.g telekinesis to levitate and fling furniture at enemies large splashes of blood are frequently depicted as enemies are shot killed control sequences are we shouting out what are we are we waiting you may you may sorry i don't know i don't know what the rules were yeah uh depict large pools of blood underneath corpses and bodies hanging from ropes the words the f word and the sh word are heard in this game i won't read those words um first of all these are not games that are coming out because the esrb doesn't have ratings for those quite yet if we when we play that game it has to be games from like this month yeah so it's not control it is control yeah i was gonna say here yeah so yeah the next one goes into it it starts revealing because this is an action adventure game which players helpful woman with psychic abilities battle supernatural forces that have taken over the government and then the giveaway is uh from a third person perspective players traverse building corridors and use a handgun to shoot and kill enemy creatures and possessed guards slash agents that's control control is rated m for mature 17 plus for the esrb with blood strong language and violence i don't remember that much blood in it but here it says there's some waves of blood yeah yeah all right they're gonna potentially get harder from here okay next okay bring it on players use an assortment of cartoony firearms oversized lasers blasters and pistols to enemies or douse them in color players can also grab or throw enemies to the ground in hand-to-hand combat a handful of sequences depict slapstick style and bathroom humor characters emitting flatulence Bird droppings falling on a character's head, a character getting kicked in the crotch, which I don't think would happen, I'm supposed to say. - Cuphead. - That's a good guess. - What about High on Life? - Nope, nope. That's a good guess. That'd be even dirtier, though. - That would be worse, yeah. - All right, I'm gonna keep going. - Spider in color. - Here's the hintiest one before we get to the giveaway. In some driving sequences, players can slam into fleeing vehicles, causing them to break apart into redacted. - Lego City Undercover. - Nailed it. - I was about to say. - That's it? You got this too, Miranda? Okay, so this is, there's the giveaway. In this open-world adventure game, players assume the role of Lego police officer, Chase McCain, as he goes undercover to capture a criminal. Players explore Lego City's open-world environment, investigate crime scenes, and apprehend criminals' complete mission objectives. Lego City Undercover is rated E for Everyone by the ESRB with cartoon violence and crude humor. - This is a great game. - It's so good. - Legitimately. - It's awesome. - Like, we have an op-ed on the site today, or yesterday, or this week, on like how good Lego City Undercover was. And it's just a great game. And like, I don't like that it gets lumped in with the Lego games. Not that they're not also great, but just like, if you're a fan of just like general, open-world, just run around and, you know, kill time kinds of games, it's just excellent. - It's wholly original, right? - It's all fun. Yeah, it's funny too. - Yeah. - Yeah, it was, it was original. Switch exclusive, meh. I mean, it's definitely not any more. - Was it Wii U or something? I forgot what it came out for. - It may have started as an exclusive, but I think you can play it everywhere now. - Yep. - Yeah, and the reason why this is relevant is that, you know, Lego Batman seems to be an open-world game like this, right? And also Grand Theft Auto's out this year, which is what this is based on. - What's so cool about this is that it wasn't beholden to like any story sequences you had seen in a movie before. You know, and so like, yeah, it was just fun. It was a little bit like Simpsons Hit and Run, where it's like, okay, what would a Lego-- - What would a Lego GTA look like, right? - And boy, Batman seems like it's in a really good spot if they could pull this off. - I'm excited. - I think I wanna play this again. - It looks great, right? Doesn't the graphics look good? Yeah, I think the footage looks really good. Okay, next one, three of four. We have players use pistols, machine guns, and explosive to defeat opposing mercenaries and military robots. Combat is often fast-paced, accompanied by realistic gunfire, large explosions, and cries of pain. Players can trail blue-colored blood on the ground while downed by enemy fire. Some areas depict corpses lying in pools of the blue liquid. The word a-hole is also heard in the game. - No. - Are craters? - Blue-- - What are craters? - The blue blood. - The blue blood is so strange. What's the blue blood from? - Well, Halo. - Halo has like purpley-blue, but there's not-- - Does it really? I thought Halo was just red. - Blue blood is maybe Avatar? - Yeah, maybe it's, yeah, Avatar. - 'Cause the aliens are blue. - We're gonna move on. This is a first-person shooter in which players assume the roles of bio-cybernetic mercenaries that perform missions on a distant planet. - Spock versus Spock. - Nothing, nothing? - I don't know. - All right, this is the final one. Remember, these are getting harder. Players engage in salvaging extraction missions across the planet's surface at a derelict warship that completing contracts and obtaining loot. - Is this all the same game? - Yeah. - Oh, boy. - Oh. - It has the E word, extraction. - Yeah, but what other, wait, 'cause it-- - Drum roll, please. - I don't know, I can-- - It's Marathon. - I was about to say, it's not Marathon, right? - Oh, it is Marathon. - Yeah, I didn't know it had blue blood, actually. - Dang it, I did know it had blue blood. I was like, but isn't that, but I guess it came out already, so it qualifies, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, Marathon is rated T for Teen by the SRB with animated blood, language, and violence, which I think is actually pretty sedate for a first-person, or just any type of online shooter. - Yeah, you're not actually killing people, you're killing robots. - And the blue blood is probably exactly why that game's rated T. - Yeah, that's interesting. Okay, final round. Close-up camera angles and slow-motion effects accentuate the violence of some finishing moves. Enemy's arms are cut off. Of course, there was a split in half. Heads are pulled out in a dramatic fashion. Some profanity, for example, SH word and the ass word. - Oh, no, not that. - I don't know. - No, wait. - Which one is that? Can be heard in the dialogue. - Mortal Kombat. I don't know what-- - Oh, that's such a good guess. - Yeah. - It's a good guess, but it's not Mortal Kombat. - What? But people's heads are pulled out, Sam. - I know, I know. - Torsos? Diablo? - This one's a hard one. So, you all know it, though. So then, during one sequence, Redacted grabs an enemy and thrusts his body headfirst into a rotating helicopter blade. Redacted also performs berserker moves that enable players to, attack/kill several enemies at once, slashing bladed claws at a frenetic pace. - Oh. - Wolverine. - That's me on there, though. - A Wolverine? - It is Wolverine what? - What? - It's called, okay, here we go. Here's the giveaway. - A Wolverine game. - Yes. - Wolverine the game. - You all know this one. This is the giveaway. Players use claws to slash, stab, impale, and dismember enemy characters, resulting in splashes and stains of red blood. This is an action movie. This is an action game based on the characters and events of the X-Men Origins Wolverine movie. - Oh, good. - X-Men Origins Wolverine. - Yes. - Rated Mature, 17. Blood, gore, intense violence and language. And Justin, related to what you just said, are they gonna get away with a teen rating for making the blood from robots? - Yeah, you are slashing up a lot of robots in the new Wolverine. But I think that trailer, if I remember right, was pretty intense. - Yeah. - I'm assuming that the new Wolverine is gonna be rated M. - I think that's M, no. How does this game look now? I can't tell if this works out. - I think it looks good. - Ninja Gaiden-like, maybe? - I think Marvel is ratings-proof, like, even if you get Mature. Look. - Yeah, I don't, yeah, baby. - That's fine. - Look at Logan. - I don't even really remember this X-Men Origins movie. Was this the one with Sabretooth where they fight a lot in the beginning of it? - It was the bad one. X-Men Origins was-- - Well, they were both pretty. They were both kind of nice. - There was two, and then there was Logan. Is that what happened? There was a trilogy? - Yep. - Logan's great. - Logan was good. - Yeah, Logan's different, yeah. - And then Deadpool's in one of them somehow? - Well, that's Origins, right? - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - They goofed, they screwed up. The Merc with a Mouth literally doesn't get to speak. - But it's still Ryan Reynolds? - Yes. - Yes. - It's completely insane. - That is so crazy. - It was all the bad decisions. It's like the Mario movie. - Wanna be the one who's always in the know about the game, the scores, the plays? Here's a tip. The Apple Sports app. Just pick your favorite teams and get automatic live updates without even knowing their schedules. And when your team scores, it shows up right on your iPhone lock screen, making it easy to check in anytime. So rule the group chat and download Apple Sports for free on the App Store or find it on your new iPhone. - The Illuminati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows. Their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything, even our music. That hit song named, "After the Color of Lemons." Not a coincidence. Big Lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years. Think about it. But now, 7-Up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda. Now lime comes first. 7-Up, flip the sip. - Cool. All right, on to our next game. Fun and Games edition of Game Scoop here. We'll keep on rolling. This one is called a new game. It's called Continue or Quit. - Ooh. - So for Continue or Quit, we all are gonna pick out a feature or trend in games that you'd like to continue, see more of, games going forward, and then one that just needs to stop now, please. So for this game, we're just gonna go around the panel. I'll go, we all brought homework to this one. Pear, you're up first. - How is that a game? How is that a game? Do I get points? Do I get points? - I will judge you at the end. No, it's just a game because we all had to bring something to show and tell. - It's a game 'cause it's a structured discussion. - Okay. - Yes, there you go. - A trend that actually is not a very big trend, but should be, but some companies have done, I think we've seen it in DOA 6, we've seen it in some Ubisoft games, is that when you pause your game, your controls are displayed on the pause screen. It is insane. - Just straight up. You don't need to go to an options menu or whatever. - It honestly is insane that any sort of game that you return to doesn't immediately kind of have this reminder of what your controls are. Like, some companies have done some cool stuff, like if it did, it detects you haven't played a game in a while. Like when you're going to the open world, suddenly it shows like hit X to hit enemies, which is way, way more work than just put the freaking controls on the pause screen. There are some games that don't display the controls anywhere. Some you have to go into like options and go into controls. - Yeah, those are brutal. - Just pause it, hear the controls. Thank you very much. If I haven't played the game for two months, I'm going back to it. Thank you very much. - Okay, so that's your continue. - Continue that. - Okay, what's your quit? - My quit is unskippable or only skippable dialogue. Some, like Bethesda has this wonderful system that when a character says something, you hit A. - I love it so much. Mass Effect used that too. - Mass Effect, it just shows you the subtitle, the text of what you said, what the character said. And like, a lot of games now, have gone back to if you hit A, it'll skip the entire line of the character and you don't know what they said or you cannot skip what the character is saying and i'm sorry like video game writing is not always so great that i need to listen to somebody talk about their chickens for five minutes like just let me go i get it i get it you're a slow talker just give me the text but i still want to be able to hear some of the dialogue yeah crimson crimson desert is the thing where there's something about the game's engine where you can't skip any of the cut scenes but they knew that their cut scenes were like you know maybe not that great or that gamers would want to skip them so you can only fast forward them but it fast forwards like the way that a vhs tape would fast forward and like everything gets sped up and like the sound gets high and like the music gets all warbly it's it's it's unbelievable that's funny whoa that's crazy bethesda and obsidian they've done this already where like you just hit the button it just shows the text and it's perfect there's definitely that system has been perfected and then of course you have such fun like my wife always gets annoyed when i play games like that and it's like and then next you should i love it yeah yeah i mean i i i get the same commentary but i think it's i'm so used to it now and i love it and when they don't use that system it's really really horrible yeah quit it um justin what's your continue and quit uh my continue what's funny about mine is that five or maybe ten years ago it would have been a quit and i've changed my mind and a thing that i didn't like i'm like yeah you know what i like it after all and i want it to stick around and that's the ability to uh the the video games where you just clear out an outpost you get up on the far cries and the and the metal gear solids and i want that gameplay loop of being able to go up in a radio tower and you do the thing in the radio tower and then it reveals everything on the map and i feel like on game scoop we would goof on that it's like that's every video game now and we're over it but now it's kind of not in that many games anymore and i miss it i like assassin's creed is keeping it real but that's basically it i like that gameplay loop of you know the map is all obscured and then it reveals a whole little like uh you know a little sandbox of like new areas like there's a race and there's a little brawl i can get into and there's an outpost i can clear out and then you go to the outpost and you mark all the guys with your binoculars and you see them all right and the game makes you think you're like ah it's open you can go clear this area however you want but actually there's a cape there's a there's a cage right there with two tigers in it there's a cage right there with two tigers in it there's a cage right there with two i'm like well i know how i'm going to clear this one and like yeah in assassin's creed i kept getting to the middle of the thing and getting the treasure and everybody's dead and then i looked down and there's like a secret passage that led in from an obvious waterfall on the outside yep i'm like damn it yep yep this whole time i could have just snuck right here i love it i love i love and they make you think they don't tell you like what to do but like you think you're being all clever and coming up with it on your own but of course you're doing it like the way they intended you to do it yep they left the breadcrumbs i like i've i've i've always liked the tower concept whether it's in a uv game or in a nintendo game it's just because it sort of becomes this thing sometimes where i'm like i don't want to do this whole freaking quest i'm just going to do a couple of you know um uh falcon spots or whatever what are they hawks um and it just got so overdone there for a second right yeah i chopped up the worlds that were supposed to be organic in very formulaic ways again but it is such an easy to understand fast travel system compared to you know whatever red dead redemption did and you know yeah what's your quit uh my quit's not as strong just to warn you like i i'm just i'm over battle passes i don't need them anymore um i feel like a battle pass recently no well no because i think that they i just think it's a treadmill right like i don't i don't i don't like games is consumption and just play this game forever i mean games is a service you know it's like i i just you know it's not my thing um i think that the battle pass concept it was so when it was new it was so friendly and fresh and like you know you can pay your way to play your way to get all these rewards or you know give us 10 bucks and that felt way friendlier than like loot boxes right but like yeah you know but now it's become kind of you know habit forming in a different way and has kind of been taken in an unhealthy direction it also makes things really stressful sometimes so you know like playing with destiny it's like i really just want to finish all this care i have one p.m. and i'm like okay i'm he's left it's like 10 levels away so tonight i can grind for like hours to try to make it or they allow me to pay for levels so i can pay for it but it's it's just that shitty thing i was like i've already paid for this so that kind of it's just not what i want to do weaponized and monetized fomo and then it and then it just never ends right um and actually halo infinite is so good at like battle passes don't expire and you can you can buy and play through an old battle pass anytime you want it's like so friendly um so anyway i'm i'm just that's great it's not even i don't even like i know that this is the segment like keep or die like i'm not even saying it needs to die but it's just i'm over it i'm not interested it's just continue or quit it's nicer sometimes you just had enough of something yep doesn't need to go away unless it's mine then it needs to go away from mine all right so uh miranda what do you got for continue or quit this is really hard because i juggled like three things i really wanted but i will go with the thing that i have a note stock in my phone with a thousand things and yeah i was like the thing i want most is probably magic chest storage so basically a lot of games like crafting they want you to collect stuff and put it away but then i can't freaking find it or if it's a multiplayer game why did you put your your your rocks in the food chest so that's really obnoxious to have to organize it that way um if you have to do a lot of chests or a lot of pockets or places for storage so what i like is with when it's crafting it just accesses all your accesses all of your storage or at least like with what pokopia does is at least if you have a chest right next to your crafting table it has everything so next to that table so or like at least give me an option to upgrade my chests to be a magic chest level or something if you want to make me be responsible for my actions of where i'm storing things like that's something i want to see continue because some games do that really well well some games will count early access and be like good luck and i'm like why would you do this to me like that's just cruel you want me to pick up everything but you don't leave all over this region what yeah i need them craft craft directly from chest it's like the world's most perfect quality of life upgrade in any game yeah plus just the ability to smart sort stuff before you do that just so you see i mean all that is like basics and like i'm playing a freaking video game here like i don't need the realism of not being able to carry a bunch of stuff i am playing a video game for a reason i don't go out in my neighborhood and get every cactus i can put in my pockets i understand implicitly why when i sit down i should be able to get all those damn cactuses yeah it's like i'm already stressed about how i'm going to organize my yarn collection i don't want to have to stress about how i'm organizing my in-game skull collection or whatever it is that i picked up today like please just let it stack in the right spot and if i need it pull it out when i'm crafting we kind of edged into a quit here what's your quit uh my quit is combat through deck building and games where stories are really cool which is very specific um so there are so i feel bad but i don't like deck builders i really i like playing card games but this is why i have miranda on this show i know sam and i complain about this all the time and i'm sorry i know people love card games i love i loved yukio so much i love other games but gosh dang it like like artifact artifact was great from valve like there's like these standalone this is a card game i am battling you but when they use that as a mechanic to get through a big story game i'm like well now i have to worry about collecting these cards and doing a strategy when i really just want to pay attention to the story in a different way and it stops me from playing really cool games i have cool stories i'm like now i have to learn however you structured the mechanics for your game and hope i get that one card randomly or i'm going to be really disappointed i love you artifact thank you joker for the video oh it was so good go away is it gone yeah uh you can still play it but they're not updating or anything it died pretty soon after they didn't i don't think they had a really good plan of like how to continue with it there's just like great characters but i like it when like the story and things are told through like these cards like this is this the battle or like whatever lore you want to put around the cards but when you start separating the cards and the store it just gets it's just annoying for me personally so i don't want to see it okay storytelling through cards very good all right so quickly mine are and i chose from a lot but so for this week i'm going to do continue a default character creator option i just want you to roll me a looker you know just just if you have somebody you think is what it looks like a character that might play this game maybe an orc a lion a lady an elf like whatever it is mix those up and give me some of your best designs and i'll just play as one of those i will never use your character creator to create a character i might use your character creator to use one of your old characters that looks really derpy and then change it because it looks so bad but that pisses me off i'm the same way i i hate it when it's like i i don't want to use your character creator to create a character creator to create a character i might use your character creator to use one of your old characters when it's like i i i just want uh i i don't want to sit there and have to create a character uh except for something like even naming link pisses me off you want me to play the game with tomodachi life is different because the whole concept is that you create these stupid characters make them interact and you create your friends and all that but generally i really really annoyed when there's not a good preset and there is a required character creator and then you roll and you get these hideous characters all the time like it's a It's a big turnoff, and I think Avowed was one of those games where I'm like, oh, I don't want this. Yeah. Like, no matter what I rolled, I got. I don't think Baldur's Gate provided defaults. Yeah, which is nice. If you're doing random, if you're hitting the random button, you're going to end up with mushrooms on your face for sure in that game. In Avowed? Yeah, it was, like, all the rejects from Pirates of the Caribbean. Like, it was so bad. That's the thing I like about, like, Cyberpunk, right? Like, their V, like, their iconic V looks really cool, and they're stylized, and they're thoughtful. Same with Shepard. I mean, Shepard is a character, you know? I like that. So, and then my quit is quit moving the jump button. I'm sick. This is the jump button right here. It's this one, okay? And on an Xbox controller, it's the bottom one. It's just that that's the jump button. That's just how it works. And we don't need to be doing this anymore. And, you know, my favorite games of all time have done this. Zelda, like, put it on the top. What? Why did we. Quit that. Quit moving the jump button. I think it's crazy. I think Donkey Kong Bonanza. Did you remap it?. got a little crazy with that, too. And I remapped it in that, yeah. See, I remapped it because it annoyed me, too. And then I mapped it back because they clearly wanted the up-down sort of, like, setup reflected in the button. Which is cute. It's cute. But, you know, you can do that outside the constraints of the jump button. There's so many buttons on these controllers. It's really funny when some of the emulated Nintendo classics were poorly mapped to Switch where, you know, Mario had a button you hold down for running fast and then you were supposed to jump while holding it down and they mapped it all crazy originally. Yeah, it was terrible. Backwards, yeah. Famously, they switched the GameCube Mega Man Anniversary collection. They just switched it. Just shoot, and you have to do that in that game, too. You have to jump rapidly and fire at the same time. You need to be able to mash the A and B buttons while you're playing that game. Yeah. Yeah, I just I know you can remap in some games, but like, unbelievably, in some games you can't. But then no matter what, like, you just didn't need to do this. There's no it was just unnecessarily aggressive. Want to be the one who's always in the know about the game, the scores, the plays? Here's a tip. The Lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows. Their lemon agenda. Has infiltrated everything, even our music. That hit song named after the color of lemons. Not a coincidence. Think about it. But now seven up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda. Seven up. Flip the sip. All right, so we're on to let's play a game. Number three. Remember, this is the fun in games episodes. The last one was a fun. Let's just call it that wasn't a game. No, it was a fun. Okay, good. Is this next one a game? I don't know because my man Jobert's leading it. It's called what is Perry eating? No, what is pear eating? Great. What do we got? Jobert? Oh, yeah, that's correct. We're going to be guessing what pair is eating. So pair, you and I are friends on Facebook, which means I have access to all your Facebook photos. And so oh, happy birthday. Happy birthday. I don't think I've posted food in a while, but I will tonight. Yeah, my my my wife, my wife booked a really, really nice restaurant for dinner for my birthday. Is it in a genre? Is it sushi or something like that? No, it's called Providence. It's a fancy L.A. Seafood restaurant. Yeah, seafood. Great. Mm hmm. All right, what do we got over? Okay, so we're going to show I'm going to show some photos of pear and food and the food is blurred out. So you're going to try to guess what that food is. Tomodachi life, basically. And I mean, these are your photos, so you'll you probably know what these are. Okay. So but, you know, if you do, I guess, am I guessing too? Yeah. If you know what it is, don't give it away. Right. All right. How about this? Pear will describe in each photo for the listeners what's going on in the photo briefly before. Yeah, I totally get that. This is not this is going to be good listening. Yeah. Yeah. For our audio. But you know what? Damon's not here, so there are no rules. I'll just make eating sounds the entire time for that's exactly what people want. I mean, we'll get some snacks. The opposite of ASMR. Hold on. Yes. I do have clues. What's the first one? I do have clues to give. If you guys need help. Oh, you do. Okay. So here we go. This is the first one. I totally know what I'm eating there. I think I know it. So we're looking at it looks like a giant vertical piece of pizza. It's shaved ice. It's very tall. Yeah. Very good. It is. It's so big, though. That's shaved ice. I think that's yeah, that's like that's in Japan for sure. Wow. Yeah. That's a lot of shaved ice. Yeah. In the summer, like this particular restaurant, I forget which one it is. They actually had shaved ice with blue cheese. Which sounds made up. That sounds actually amazing. I didn't go for it. No, it's a big thing. It's called Kakigori. It's a big thing in Japan. There was a giant line out the door for this restaurant. It was blazingly awesome. It was blazingly hot in the Tokyo summer heat. And we stood in line for this and it was really, really good. And it's not. I wouldn't have that much shaved ice before a car trip. It's more than shaved ice. They have like fruit in it and like ice cream and stuff. So it's not. It's not. That's incredible. Yeah. It's so good. Amazing. Okay. Next up. Well done, Miranda. Yeah. Good job. Round two. Japanese shaved ice. What the heck? Oh, that's easy. You're getting like Pear Weekend pictures here. That's hilarious. Yeah. I just wanted to like crop some of these so as not to accidentally dox you or something. So. Oh, that's all right. Yeah. If they're on Facebook, you can show anything. It's really cute because you can see the ingredients that lead to like the world's most stacked bagel. Yep. Bagel and lox. Oh, my God. But it's got the red onions and the capers. You know what this is? I think this is a pear birthday picture where my daughter made bagels from scratch. And they surprised me. When you do add all this in, it's the best bagel ever. It's so cool. They surprised me for my birthday and said, "Wake up, Romy made bagels." Wow. Yeah. That's pretty intense. That little coffee looks so nice, too. Yeah. The coffee looks good, too. I want this right now. You must eat three of these bagels now for breakfast. Yeah. I know. It's triggering in the best way. Really good. Yeah. That's fair hitting. It looks like a train. I feel like I can't say. I feel like I know too much. Oh, I know what this is. There are some hints. Is this the bentos that you get before your train ride in Japan? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. You got it. I think then. Yeah. Is that what it's called? You guys are so good. I love these. They're so good. What is weird is all of these are not normal things, and yeah, that's the Shinkansen train probably from Tokyo to Kyoto or the other way. Before you get on the bullet train, you go in either Tokyo Station or whatever the station is there, and they have hundreds of different options of amazing bento boxes. So great. What a great train ride. That's probably like salty salmon with rice and stuff. Yum. And I like the little soft drink tea thing there too. Okay. I think two more here. Two more. Okay. This is really old. Yeah. Okay. Wow. This is really old. Okay. So this is a picture of Pear eating a blurred thing, but to be fair, there's a giant pile of sausages next to him. And he's drinking the traditional German beer of course. - I think that pretzel is. - That's a big pretzel. - I want one of those now. cut out one of my kids that's what the dark murderous shadow is in the background that's what the that's what the other hand is so at the at the hoofbra house there's like there's people walking around usually a lady you know like a traditional bavarian outfit carrying just a giant amount of pretzels i love and you just go ahead and they come over and all your money i've been going to this uh fantastic brewery on federal land over at fort mason and uh well sorry not brewery it's it's a beer hall it's all german it's all great it's fantastic it's really good beer you get boots and everything good food but the pretzels are so tiny and they're like 11 bucks because it's san francisco no they got to be bigger than your head yep yeah yeah but they don't serve them with mustard as as proper yeah the south the southern germans are are the masters at doing this stuff so i'm i'm from more north pretzels traditionally served with butter i mean beer more butter beer um actually in in munich you get cheese no in munich you get obatzta obatzta is basically cheese and uh green onions and uh that's what that is like onions and onions and they mix it up into this paste so it's like i think you guys call it like it's here it's beer cheese but beer cheese yeah beer cheese or pub cheese or is is it's not as it's not as good that's that's pretty common here actually in iowa too but of course there's a huge german yeah that makes sense yeah but all but all that stuff is different it doesn't have like the pimento stuff in it want to be the one who's always in the know about the game the scores the plays here's a tip the apple sports app just pick your favorite teams and get automatic live updates without even knowing their schedules and when your team scores it shows up right on your iphone lock screen making it easy to check in anytime so rule the group chat and download apple sports for free on the app store or find it on your new iphone the lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not a coincidence big lemon has been pulling strings in the industry for years but now seven up is fighting back with their new lime lemon soda now lime comes first seven up flip the sip yeah okay so we have i'm hungry thanks guys yeah happy birthday i hope you get all of those things that you're at michelin restaurant tonight bring me a pretzel um i uh we have short time so pair if you do need to go you can't but i think we can get through this video game 20 questions and this time we can speed run it i could stay okay i know you guys are gonna get this one good we need to win it's been a while that's the pressure so uh i wonder if the game scoop historian i wonder if this counts as a win for you as well sam if we win oh no i don't think so i think uh the person that sent this in is gonna know that because the person that sent this in is greg kelly who does uh some of our tracking of game scoop 20 questions stats um so this game does have an anecdote and it's a good one but i don't think i can read a single part of it before we play really because it will give it away not even hello scoop crew can't even say that so just know it's from greg kelly got it that means he probably picked a game from a series that has never been in 20 questions oh that's something see that see this is enough to go on right uh so okay okay okay speed speed run right let the questioning begin did this game come out in the 70s 80s or 90s no it did not i heard you guys on a modern console was it on a modern console a modern as in like current current gen current gen no i i heard gemini came out with a surefire way of winning this game yeah it was it was pretty very it was it was 80 okay and 20 non-sucks which yeah that checks out sorry what was the what was the miranda's question was what was the answer is it on a modern console so now we have bookends right it's not from the last century and it's not on the current gen okay okay uh was this game made in japan no it was not is this game on a nintendo platform uh no oh is this game live service no okay no that was a dark answer uh do you play as a damon says it do you play as a human in this game yes you do okay uh do you shoot guns in this game oh yeah a lot of guns is this a first person killin is it uh yes that's eight so could be master chief first person shooter not on a modern console but after the 70s 80s and 90s is this the first game in a series yes oh well let me take that back it's the first game the first game so not necessarily in a series maybe it's not a series should we ask that that's not halo not halo well it could be but just it's the first it's the first you uh is this a science fiction game no oh but you shoot okay you shoot guns that's 10 not halo could still be some of the call of duties but also not other i love that about call of duty you just don't know well it could also be a medal of honor yeah uh is this a is this a military themed fps yes okay so we could be in call of duty territory is this based on real world events you know i kind of looked that up and no no okay that's great because like i get what you're saying like if a game is set like if it's call of duty on the island of okinawa in world war ii yeah if call of duty 2 would be real locations is this either a call of duty medal of honor or battlefield game no wow a hack yeah that's fine there's no rules there's no cops we can do what we want so it's none of those but it's a military shooter military fps i think we know right military fps it's first person first person guns and then sam gave us a hint that it's probably not a series but i don't know that we know that definitively is this game defined by having a major reveal at the end no no okay i'm trying to think of what you're thinking of but this is not probably spec ops the line what were you thinking what happens at the end well i guess we shouldn't spoil spec spec ops the line is a whole thing okay um spoiled the mario galaxy could be could be so calm you did i listened to that episode terrible come on that's not true not science fiction though so so calm uh military fps killed zone is yeah that's oh it's all sci-fi there is there is that game mag that that's around that era oh what was that other ubisoft game with a yellow masks thing there was a ghost recon not there's ghost recon is this is this a ghost recon so calm or mag wow that's 15 and no whoa so rainbow six oh you were thinking of rainbow six yeah no no i was i was thinking of haze which would never be in this game because nobody remembers that 15 what the heck uh i'm trying to think of like other defining factors from first person shooters that would be good to ask i mean whether it's multiplayer or single player focused might be helpful or it might not i don't even know i'm like i feel like i've named every military fps i can think of so yeah oh yeah because it is military not the serious thing stumps me because obviously you know rainbow six is also a series and as are the ones that you you've never asked the question about the series so oh yeah it was the first in a series oh we asked if the answer was the answer was yes well sam said it's the first um okay so and i also think i think by the way this is yes rainbow six is an fps but i don't think the original ones were i think they were third person if i recall correctly they switched oh boy i don't know except on the first person shooter that is maybe loosely based on the real world but not exact real world events yeah you have five questions and again the era is we're talking about between 2000 and 2020s basically whenever that xbox series came out yeah so that's a that's a pretty big range window i mean there's golden eye is a military shooter what about like uh well we asked about service game what about like pub g no it's it's not service pub g is a service game i guess i'm trying to be in that headspace though like yeah you're right but like you know like uh like uh like a tarkov i know that that's a live service that's live service yeah let's put like something like that that's like that's i i'm picturing like older console games and i'm trying to get out of that headspace yeah was this game popular on the xbox 360 specifically um uh no okay okay oh that is weirdly kind of helpful Because it rolls out some other things I was thinking of. And it wasn't on a Nintendo console. We already established that. Nope. No, we have four more guesses. Which, by the way, Rainbow Six was as well. Like a 2000 N64 game, too. So maybe we're in PlayStation territory. Should we? I asked about SOCOM, though, and NAG. Those are the two I could think of. Yeah. You've been riffing on several questions that have not been asked that are really good questions. I don't know what we've been riffing on. Was this a PlayStation game? Like a PlayStation console series game? You need to refine that question. Was this game on a PlayStation console? Yes. Okay. I don't know. There's Arma. There's what? Two and a guess. There's Arma. Well, it doesn't necessarily mean it is a PlayStation exclusive, because that's not what we asked. He said this would be one we get, so it can't be Arma. Yeah. I know it's one we can get. Yeah. And when I reveal it or you get it, you will know why it's one that I know you can get. Maybe it's a game that we already talked about on the show. Just going to have to believe. I feel like I'm failing myself in some way. I'm just like, I should know this, but I don't. Because it sounds. A stupid no-brainer thing somewhere. First person, not the latest console generation, military first-person shooter. First in a series. First. So it's first. Okay. It started. It started. Why does it keep saying first like that? What does that mean? It's not live service. It just means that I'm separating. You can't ask. There's two questions there that, Brandon, trickled out. The second one was in a series, but I didn't answer that question. I answered, was this the first? We didn't ask that. Yeah. What about Army of Two? What about. I don't know. I can't think of it. I can't think of any other military FPSs. That also might have been a third-person cover shooter. I feel like, yeah, I'm missing something. Justin, any other Tom Clancy's? I mean, we had Ghost Recon. I mean, there's Far Cry, which was not really military. No, that's. You know, there's Splinter Cell, which is not a first-person military FPS. It's got some first-person in it in the second one. It's not sci-fi. Maybe it's a Star Wars game, because that's not sci-fi. That's science fantasy. What? No, he would say sci-fi. I'm not Damon. That's cruel. That's really cruel. Yeah, that would be. That's out of line. Yeah. I think you have two options here. You can go with what generation of console is this really? You can also go with, like, some qualifications about the type of game. It is. Both those would be helpful directions. It doesn't help us if we ask the series question, does it? No. I don't. I think that's. Because we already know it's first. Console generation? But I don't know if that helps. I mean, it would help if you knew if it's, like, PlayStation 3 or PlayStation 2. The difference is first and only versus first of a series, right? Yeah. Right. Is this game part of a series? No. Yeah. Okay. Great. So it's the only one. So, yeah. One question. It's a one-and-done military FPS that's. Has a non. And that appeared on a PlayStation. Was not popular on the Xbox 360. No. So probably, probably PS4. Maybe PS3. But. Oh, gosh. And not live service. It doesn't have a twist end. So it's not live service where it continues and that's why there isn't a sequel. There's those. There's the ones that have the, like, the sniper games where, like, the bullets, like, fly through people's brains and stuff like that. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Sniper Elite. Yeah, Sniper Elite. That's not. But it's not. But I think I also think. I think they were probably on Sniper Elite, like, three or four. Yeah. There's multiple of those. Yeah, anyway. That's a series. I remember them coming out. Um. Oh, gosh. I don't know. I don't know. You're all sniffing around the right tree here. It's just not quite. We're just not getting it. Say that? Yeah. We have one question left. Should we ask whether it's a. Whether it's Sony published? No, it was on Xbox. So, like, then it wouldn't have been. Do we know it was on Xbox? No, we don't know. I don't know. I thought you said something. It wasn't popular on Xbox, didn't you say? I asked if it's specifically. That was the question. I answered the question. I specifically asked if it's popular on Xbox 360. Was this game exclusive to a PlayStation platform? No. Okay. So. Okay, so it's not. So we're just hosed. We don't. I don't know. It could be original Xbox or Xbox One. And those generations. So let's. Or it was on the 360 and just. It wasn't that popular on it. Let's think about the publishers. Did we ask where it was made? It was not made in Japan. So we're talking about. You can't ask anything more. No, no. But we had that question. We asked if it was made in Japan. It was no. Correct. So we know it's either EA, Ubisoft, you know, and if it's. By then, like, midway Atari were already. Oh, man, this Atari still was alive. Yeah, Ubisoft. After the 90s. Yeah. Rockstar. Take two. 2K. We need a. We just need. I mean, we're out of questions. We need 10 more questions. 10 pairs out of time. Yeah. I know. I don't think it's this, but just. Do you want to keep asking questions? No, I'm going to get. Is it Sniper Elite? No, it is not Sniper Elite. Sorry. So Greg Kelly says, I think it's finally time to suggest the game Black. Oh, my God. I know it's been a running joke from Justin over the years that he regularly thinks it's going to be this game, but it still never has been. It never is. He has mentioned it much in the past year or two, so I think it's the perfect time to pick it. Let's get him. What? Oh, my God, it's Black. Signed one of the two 20Q stats dudes from Massachusetts. I got got. From the makers of Burnout, right? I don't think so. I think you would have gotten this maybe with the. We also. I think. I never. I never actually played this game, but I think it was single player only. It is, yeah. It was. So it's like that may have actually helped. 2002 PS2 Xbox, so pretty early. Yes. Sorry, sorry, 2006. I mean, PS2 Xbox, 2006. You can now play it on Xbox backwards compatibility in the digital store. That's basically the only way to play it. We gave it an 8.6 on Xbox and 8.7 on PS2. Great. I like that, Xbox. Yeah, I should have. I didn't know that this game existed. Criterion. Criterion Dev. That's crazy. You've seen the. It is, yeah. You've seen the cover. It has all the bullet casings on it. It's a very. Everything about this game was like marketed differently. Unfortunately, it never. It just never became a big hit, but. It's kind of an elevated tech demo. It looked really good. It was very beautiful at the time, and it didn't have multiplayer, right? So it's like just a really elevated, like good FPS game. Also famous for destruction. Yeah. It had. It had revolution. It had a lot of destruction, bullet. Like bullet. Just a lot of effects around the guns. Crumbling walls, I think, was a big deal. And I think Resident Evil 4 ended up doing that in-engine for a lot of stuff too, but. This game's known for its sound design as well. It was basically like the Matrix lobby scene as a video game. You know, like they just. They were doing a lot of. There you go. There you go. There you go. There's some evolution. All the destruction stuff. Oh, man. What a bummer. I know this game pretty well, and I'm a little bummed, but yeah, I would not have thought of Black. Well, when Damon comes back, we'll have him just play against us with the same game and see if he gets it. Okay. Yeah. I wanted this to be Gun because it's just such a funny name for a shooter. Yeah. But that's not first person. I have some swag. One of the few cowboy games before Red Dead. Yeah. Yeah, I have like a leather flask for it. Okay. What? That's so cool. Yeah, yeah. Just from the swag, you know, trash can back in the day. Okay. Thank you for your suggestion, Greg. Viewers, listeners, if you have your own, it was a good one. And been part of BG2Q DNA, which I like. If you have your own suggestions for Radio Game of 20 questions, you can send them to gamescoop at IGN.com. Don't send them to NBC at IGN.com like I asked for last week. That made all the NBC organizers very disturbed. But I really appreciate everybody's suggestions that they sent in. There were some really good ones in there and some even better anecdotes. So I really appreciate that. That's all the scoops we have for this week. Game will be back next week. Thank you to Per, Justin, and Miranda. and a Jobert working kind of between the scenes today. That was really fun, Jobert. This is IGN Game Scoop, and we're out. This is IGN Game Scoop. We're not bringing him home yet. What type of? A Saluki? A Saluki is like a hippie greyhound. Really? It has long, fuzzy ears. What's a Borzoi? A Borzoi, my parents had them when I was a kid. They're Russian wolfhounds. So basically, greyhound, one size bigger with long hair and weird, funny, long noses. If you ever watched. What's the hound movie, the Disney one? What was it? What's it called in English? The Fox and the Hound? No, the other one. The one with, this is the night, what a beautiful night. Lady and the Tramp. Lady and the Tramp. In Germany, it's called Susi und Strolch. It's the names of the animals. It's also the names of the animals in English. No, Strolch is Susi und Strolch. It's the Tramp. Is that his name? Is his name Tramp? No, I think his name is. I think his name is Jacques. Is that right? See, it's different. Anyway, there is a Borzoi in that one. The lady is named Lady, though. One of the entourage dogs is a Russian wolfhound and his name is Boris and he speaks like this. Okay. Yeah. I will count you in. Sorry. Was that Tag? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Miranda, so we usually have like a. What the f*** is this? We usually have like a. I usually put like a random. Internet video? Internet video on for everyone to watch while I set up. This is tame. I've had some wild ones. I saw this. I said, what in the jovert is this? And he said, it's the Tag World Championships. I'm like, man. It's better than blowing cockroaches into each other's mouths. Uh-oh, I froze. Yeah, the balloon? The balloon keepy-uppy. Yeah, it's like. It's that game where like you hit a balloon around. But the craziest thing is their arena is basically a living room. There's the balloon World Cup. Look at it. Because this is in human tradition, was always played in living rooms. Yeah, of course, the set would be a living room. That's so funny. The set's really good. I feel like the next level set should have cacti, though. And like, if you're the last person to touch it, like you lose the point. Do they have to. You can only do it once? Yeah. And then I think there's rules like you have to bop it up. It has an occasion. Spike it? Yeah, you can't spike it. I have so many questions about that Doritos arcade machine. I also think you can't block the other player. Go, Justin. No, Justin, I like that they follow the Olympics like it's Peru versus Bulgaria. Like they went through regionals to get you. Yeah, they were 500 teams in Bulgaria. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they have a promotion and relegation system. Yeah. Those semis were tense. Okay, I think we are good to go. Everyone sounds. Sounds good. Everyone looks good. And Sam, I will count you in. In five, four, three, two, and on you. Here's a tip. So rule the group chat. And download Apple Sports for free on the App Store. Or find it on your new iPhone. Finding a doctor is hard enough. Finding the right doctor, even harder. Someone who takes your insurance, has an available appointment when you need one, and feels like someone you can actually open up to. That's where ZocDoc comes in. 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