Gal Gadot

Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Miniker Mouse. Today we have Gail Gadot. She is an actor. She is Wonder Woman, Snow White, Red Notice, Fast and Furious. Several, I think, for Fast and Furious. Heart of Stone. She has a new movie out on Prime Video September 2nd called The Runner. It is a very high octane, crazy. This woman runs for two hours straight. It scared me. Yeah, she said it was 110 pages of running. Yeah, it's unreal. Tom Cruise has got to take notice of this. I feel like maybe she's thrown a gauntlet down. I'd like to see Tom run an entire movie. God knows he could, you know, if anyone could do it. That's right, he could do it. Please enjoy Gail Gadot. We are supported by Auto Trader. All right, if you've been putting off car shopping, because it sounds like a whole thing, buying your car online on Auto Trader makes it way easier, really. 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Nice to meet you. Jenny Chu, my hairstylist, was like, oh, I love Jenny more than anyone. How do you know each other? She did Kristen's hair, does Kristen's hair a lot. Oh, there you go. So you must know her too, no? Yeah, then we're all just in line with Jenny. We love Jenny. She's the best. So how did you guys start doing this together? Kristen, and I was at the house all the time, Dax wanted to start it. It was like, she doesn't do enough, come do my podcast. No, we love to argue. So we generally have opposite opinions on any given topic. So our hobby when she worked for Kristen was I'd be walking through the kitchen and I'd be like, you're listening to Serial, right? Yeah, I'm like, you think Adnan did it? She's like, he didn't do it. I'm like, of course he did it. And we would let it rip for an hour. I basically lived at their house. We were all hanging out all the time. I love that you do it from your house too. And then this, yeah. And she lives directly. Across the street. So she walks 12 feet and I walk 30 feet. That's really nice. We've been doing it almost nine years, eight and a half. You've been doing this for nine years almost? Almost. When it just started, you saw the potential with the podcast. No, we didn't. You were just looking for an arena to fight. Yeah, kind of. Well, really, I was starting to be on a lot of podcasts as a guest. And I liked it so much more than, say, although I like late night talk shows because I'm a comedian. It's fun. But I liked going there and being like, I don't have a seven minute chunk to be brilliant in. I can be my full self. And I remember leaving those interviews going like, well, that was really worthwhile. More than a normal interview. I just loved being on them. And I was like, I kind of want to do this. We're into a deeper dive, you know? And it's fun to have someone you can banter with. Yeah. Because if it gets tiring or if it gets to whatever, then you come to the rescue. Because vice versa. It's a good balance. But especially. Did we start now? I think we're always starting. Stop it. You know, you're my first. Oh, really? Oh, wow. Okay, good. Well, you've chosen well, I think. I think so, too. We'll see. Without naming anyone, or I don't have any specific complaint, but many of the podcasts, everyone involved has the same opinion. Yeah, it's true. And I find that a little bit. Well, then why do we need a second person? Yeah, exactly. Let's just. Preach. Yeah, so she's a brown, tiny girl from Georgia. And I am a super tall, white. With big personality. Big old personality. Where about? In Georgia? Duluth. Suburbs of Atlanta. Atlanta, basically. Okay, Atlanta. Yes. You've certainly made movies in Atlanta, yeah? Yeah. Did any of those superhero movies take place there? Mine were in London. Okay. Chic. Nice. Not that Atlanta is not chic. No, London, I'm going to say is chicer. Bucket area and all of that. Bucket can be cute, yeah. It didn't sound on my phone because I did not know where it was. What is it, you guys? You weren't told our slogan, which is ABR, always be recording. Okay, now I know. Rob starts it before we even walk in. He's always trying to catch us. Yeah, yeah. This is all running. Okay, amazing. Well, you never know. No, we caught something amazing, which was we interviewed Brett Pitt last year. And so we're in here waiting for him to arrive in the nervousness between the two of us, and particularly Monica. I'm so nervous. Why would you be nervous next to Brett Pitt? I know, right? It's like that's so strange. It's so strange. I'm never nervous. And so it was kind of a weird feeling. What sign are you? Double Virgo. I'm a double Taurus. Wow. Yes. We just had somebody else on who's a double Taurus. Since I've been back, every guest has been into astrology, and I got to hear the whole. I think it's time for you to disembrace it. You're a Taurus because you're very logical. That's how I used to go. Okay, hold on. I just want to say, as an outside observer who's not in the religion, when I watch the exchange, it goes the same way every time. It's like, are you a Pisces? No, I'm a Virgo. Oh, yeah, you're a Virgo. What are you? I'm a Sagittarius. Oh, yeah. I get it. Everyone gets excited about their sign, and then really nothing beyond that, which is kind of funny to observe. Well, it's just a common denominator. I feel like it's a good icebreaker, and I find myself. So first of all, I'm a Taurus. I'm logical. I never believed in astrology until. Okay. One day I was home, and I was cooking, and the TV was on. I had this astrology time was the title of the show. It was back in Israel, and it was like a bunch of experts, and you call from home, and they do your maps, and they tell you what to do in your life. I could not care less. I'm trying to switch the channel, and I could not care less. I'm chopping the aubergine, and then they say, our celebrity for today is Gal Gadot. I was 25 back then, and I'm like, what? Okay. I guess I'm going to listen to them. Let's see what they have to say. They were so. So accurate. Oh, okay. They said she's influenced by Aries sign. Both of my parents are Aries. She's thinking about expanding her family. I was in my first few weeks of my first pregnancy, and it's not something you would say about a 25-year-old. Right. And then they said all these bunch of things, and then I was like, oh, I got curious, started investigating a little bit, and now I don't lead my life with that, but I think it complements. I find it interesting. Yeah, it's like a good blush. It's a nice color. I agree. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. You're like, sure, sure. No, we are. No, that's okay. I respect that. Hold on, no. From a Capricorn. No, no, no. Hold on, hold on. That's what I say. That's what I say. I recognize that we would all acknowledge we're very dynamic creatures, and we're being influenced. Our context is so broad. It's physical. There's so many things influencing us. Right. I understand that you're like, yeah, this is a 8% sprinkling that I think contributes This is a little spice. I think it's just a fun. It's like an icebreaker. It's like a fun way to cut through. It's like, oh, I know something about you. Don't you find that sometimes you have phases in your life when you're more tired and you're more low energy and everything, and everyone around you are the same, and then you realize that Jupiter is regressing? Yeah, or Mercury's in retro. You need to be aware, Dash. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Okay, never mind. Some people might call those spurious conclusions, but it doesn't matter. I'm going to tell you one tiny story. I'm not a hater on it. It's not for me, but I don't have an ax to grind. I just have this one funny thing. So I had an astronomy class in college, and the teacher was telling us that he had so many different students that were constantly trying to argue the legitimacy of astrology. So he agreed to have a prominent astrologist come to the class, and they were going to have a bit of a debate. Now, again, this is coming from him. This seems a little comedic, but he got everyone's birthday, and then he handed out these readings for each person, and everyone in the class looked at their thing. and my teacher said, I could see people going like, feeling and then the guy got done and he realized he had an extra one in his hand he was like hold on hold on hold on hold on everyone everyone pass it to your left and then handed that one to the last person and then they all look at their thing and they went you know we love thinking about ourselves so if you give me adjectives that you will find how it works that's my take on it and i don't mind that that's fine i like feeling no people like feeling known and seen and they're like oh that is me someone gets me yeah you know what i did today the moon does so i don't know maybe it's in america now it's a trend as well but in israel today there's a trend just today it started to ask chat gpt and or maybe it happened in america i have no idea ask chat gpt to describe you in one word did you ever do that we gotta do it right now thank you this is fun we never do real-time challenges okay please describe me in one word before i hit send i just got to tell you this i had a weird moment already this morning okay with my chat okay which is like i've never told my chat i'm dac shepherd i never told it to my and he knows i'm me right but i've said you know i'm interviewing so and so i had this weird recollection of running into you you know it's also murky doing press for 20 years i'm like i kind of feel like when i was doing chips press you were maybe doing justice league press i just thought that in my mind so i asked chat like have i ever been on a talk show with gail and my chat said no but she was promoting blank so maybe like this thing i just told you it came up but then funnier it goes on to say but you and kristin were on the red carpet with her at the golden globes award in 17 and i'm like it's so weird that it's saying you and kristin i haven't told him i'm i know but if it knows it's you but it just felt weird it's very weird all right so i will now please describe me in one word i hope it says asshole curious or it would never it's here to please what does everyone get curious mine says curious my mom my mom my mother-in-law you're curious too okay i'm determined you guys oh really okay so everyone doesn't get curious this is real time because i was like my sister was caring my friend was family-oriented another friend was multitasking okay so me and you got curious but it's probably because you use it a lot because that's what you do you're curious about people and you're interviewing you're asking a lot of questions i am very curious that's why this show exists but what else could it conclude i only interact with it to ask it questions i'm determined so what are your searches generally what do i search so i use multiple i use perplexity if i want to do comparison with other stuff to do more research chat is like my google yeah i just ask all the questions and yet it didn't say i was curious yeah okay my mom and another friend of mine and my mother-in-law are so are your questions task related like how do you like how do you get to the objective no they're not no okay i don't doubt it could know me better than i know myself if you have comments you should have your viewers yes right down there's and you'll see a lot of them won't be curious or what if they just say curious if they don't really know us i don't know if he knows me well i don't like him so maybe i'm always suspicious of him yeah i never told him i'm me and i got so upset when i realized he knew yeah it should have then i would have suspected it a little more i would have respected him i said do you know what my job is i have a pretty good guess but i don't think you've explicitly told me your exact job title from everything we've talked about no and you're pillowed i guess you work in podcasting entertainment particularly on the creative branding and production side with a close connection to armchair expert and monica padman oh so he doesn't think i'm her it thinks you're emma wait sorry what do you think such a rabbit hole but how tall am i i'm gonna say what do you think my name is well ask how tall do you think emma who works on the show is what is emma 5 10 yeah she's very tall yeah i think she's six foot actually you're tall too i'm five ten and a half five ten without uh it's really nice i'm really jealous i think you were up at six feet with those heels yeah what's the deal with peptides are you on peptides oh god yeah you are oh yeah tell me you're not no how could you not be you're so athletic i'm just athletic because i've always been we're gonna get into why you're athletic because i know you did your but all the more reason that you would want to know about peptides i spoke to a few doctors and all of them scared the shit out of me from taking peptides well first of all there's a quadrillion peptides right glp1 is a peptide right that's the only one that has enough research and all of that well not true but glp1 the only one that has enough research generally what's happening which was the case with the glp1 is that was a medicine developed for diabetics to regulate a1c right so then they discover all these off-label effects of it and they just can't ignore what they're seeing oh when we try to treat these people for diabetes they're also losing weight their metabolic health is also improving so now you can apply this thing you've observed but many of the peptides are definitely being used off-label for what they were intended to originally treat so one of them being tesla moreland right this was developed for aids patients in the 80s what they found while people were on this treatment is like oh they're losing all their abdominal fat that's interesting but it's a crazy safe peptide that's been being used on all these people for a very very long time and one of the unintended consequences was reduction in belly fat so it's not not tested or not not safe it hasn't been tested for belly fat reduction but it has been observed used for so many years yes exactly since 86 here's the problem people are conflating two things are peptides dangerous or are how people are getting peptides dangerous the second one the latter yes so dumb dumb guys on the internet are ordering shit from china for lab use only and they don't know what they're getting and it might not have the actual peptide in it and it might be infected so unfortunately because that's happening now it's like well peptides are dangerous no crazy shit from china that's intended for lab use is dangerous it also is if you do too much i mean again anything can be and i want to be fair they can be dangerous so even the tesla moreland one what it does is it can be dangerous and it can be dangerous because it tells your pituitary gland to make more of your own human growth hormone so you know people take hgh exogenously that's dangerous that's dangerous it is not good for cancer and all these reasons and even if if you do have active cancer cells and you increase your own body's hgh that could be problematic so you need to get screened you need to get blood panels every three months you gotta do it with a doctor and be observed how often do you do it daily every day yeah yeah in injections right wow this is probably the most transparent i've been about i mean i say i'm on them amazing well thank you i'm 51 years old like you know get it on yeah he loves to hear that i'm never appreciated by women this is one of my complaints guys all the time are like bro what's your diet i appreciate strong bodies and your body looks very strong i said it from the first minute i saw you i don't think you need any you're doing great i'm not gonna do any at least not at this point and i'm not where you are as you were like so confident about it and probably you've done much more research than i did well i have a doctor you know i have a hormone doctor but i'm open to if it's not risky yeah if it's not dangerous and if it doesn't feed into cancer cells and all these things at some point when you're perimenopausal or menopausal you'll explore hormone therapy it's so impactful it's crazy women were denied any help in that realm i was just watching last night a show about it it's again in israel it's a documentary show about this amazing woman who's a journalist in israel and the name of the show is uh i'm hot i'm cold just because of the heat and she explored everything and again like with peptides it's amazing to see in the scale there's like the people who are super pro it right people who are also doctors who are extremely against it and it's all about the cancer and feeding the cells and essentially i think that if you end up doing anything like this you need to do it the right way and just make sure you check yourself do you know dr mary claire haver you she's kind of like one of the main faces of the menopause treatment yeah she's like out there always giving tips isn't it amazing how women's health is something that when you compare it to men's health and i'm not saying it is a bad thing it just is a fact there's so many things that had never been fully deeply thoroughly explored in the same way with men and you know the historical that's round one we thought maybe we'll get down to um okay our essentials are unmentionables at some point so step one is great yes the historical explanation is women make terrible research subjects because you have your period because throughout the month you're going to have very dramatic rises and falls in your hormone levels but is what it is it is what it is that's an excuse study women but that was the explanation given is like if i take your blood i'm trying to test you but then 15 days out, I get this weird result. I don't know you're at this point. researchers wherever you are if you say that i'm not defending it we just had an expert on about fatherhood i'll tell you when men are not studied is parenting there's almost no fucking studies on men in parenting that's a big big problem yeah we're locked in these vestigial terrible gender things that exclude us from understanding each other slowly yes but yeah also all the medication that applies to women they've just tested on men and then it reacts very differently on women it's like well yeah because you didn't test anything out on us yeah the best is ambien that was the one i think that's what caused america to go hold on hold on why aren't we testing on women because it turns out you know ambien is twice as powerful in women than men i didn't know that still to this day oh yeah yeah yeah so doctors were prescribing the same dose to men and women men are like oh it's great i love it i fell right asleep and then women are like yeah i got up and i drove my car or i went to the fucking 7-eleven got snapped and the doctor's like why are the men doing any of this bonkers behavior oh man yeah and they're like women are crazy it's like nope just the medicine so many different fields in health had been super explored when it came to men and very little exploration when it came to women i had i'm sure you did the research CVT the cerebral venous thrombosis in my head when i had a baby it's a kind of a stroke it's a rare stroke oh scary only three percent strokes are these kind right i don't know the number that was my research of you yeah you know that because you know why why you're very curious but it's basically three of my venus is venus venus i don't know like in the head uh-huh venus venus i don't know english by the way it's gonna happen a lot i love that we love that about it as long as you understand what i'm saying yeah we're blocked and it was because of the fact that i was in the hospital and i was in the hospital because of the hormones and because i was pregnant and it happens i didn't know it was even a thing and many times what happens is that women get the clots in their brain and then they have the baby and then soon after the delivery they get a stroke women were not aware of it yeah i wasn't aware it was a thing for pregnancy they put you on a blood thinner to deal with that and that's miserable right i've had friends on blood thinners and they hate it it was very bad and another thing i feel sorry for my doctor my neurologist didn't take me seriously enough mike shout out he's a good guy yeah i think it's just the attitude of she's a woman she's just being dramatic it's because you were like i have headaches okay and then if you're black it's like 3x the data of not being believed for your pain so it's like there's all these strata it's like if you're a woman you're fucked and if you're we're not gonna take anything you say seriously yeah horrible but anyway i had major headaches throughout my pregnancy and then the last three weeks of my pregnancy i was not able to do anything i was home in bed dark quiet ac that's it but you're fighting the pain now i know i was like in and out of conscious it felt like a toothache in your brain and then you pass out and then but i thought i was fine so it was already restricting i didn't know and they checked me and i didn't show any the back of my eye pressure was fine my blood pressure was fine therefore he thought i was just having a migraine until one day my mom was like enough three weeks you're not doing anything go get an mri and i asked to get an mri for so many things he wouldn't send me were they saying they didn't want to give you an mri because you were pregnant i don't know no they probably just like an insurance thing they don't like giving mris yeah why i want my own mri i know if you but anyway then they found out i was on the like almost dead oh afterwards my wonderful neurosurgeon who did the operation told me that usually when they see this type of blockage people are in coma yeah i was supposed to be in coma so what was the operation trombectomy they put like stints in there how do they didn't they can they can for aneurysm and stuff but that's not what i had they go from your crotch all the way your brain and they try to take out the clotting that feels very dangerous and you were pregnant during this surgery no they waited so i did the mri they called me immediately on the way home they called me to come to cedar sinai that was amazing cedar sinai i love you they took the baby out first thing and then they did the operation and put me on blood thinners and everything it's a big day for your body this is scary delivering a baby and then by the way just delivering a baby for a woman it's a bit again underestimated and i must say that i also was downplaying giving birth it's fine i'm back it's a it's a huge trauma it's a trauma and this was number four now my mother told me they got easier did yours not get easier obviously this is compounded by this exactly yeah up until then i loved giving birth okay loved like i hated being pregnant oh yeah loved delivering it was like because you felt powerful because first of all meeting your baby for the first time is something i can't explain it's like you want to see how they look how they hear do you want to smell the creation of your own and they're looking in your eyes and you can tell they're going like are you who's gonna take care of me and you're like yeah i'm gonna take care of you it's so special yeah it is although i was terrified the first time i bet wow so you had the surgery oh my god you know i had a repeated dream when i was down did it ever happen to you uh-uh were you ever under like did they put you under for a surgery i've been under a dozen times yeah for real i've had a lot of surgeries what kind of surgeries are you okay i race motorcycles so always broken stuff and stuff you know no i don't race motorcycles yet you walk i do i walk that's my motor transportation i froze my eggs and so they did put me under for that i did that twice they don't always put people under but they did put me and that was nice that was a nice little treat you can see why mike jackson wanted to do that night they call it the nap the anesthesia i was dreaming that i was in a plane and everybody in the plane were standing and like you know leaning over each other trying to see the view of where we're getting and we were supposed to land on the golden bridge in golden gate in san francisco the red one golden bridge is a song it was clear exactly and there were cars on it and every time we're about to land boom we went back to the start weird over and over and over and at one point in the dream i'm like i think we're gonna start again i think that's what's happening do you think maybe you asked this but like yeah i've been out a bunch of times colonoscopies the surgeries i don't remember one thing they hit the plunger and then i'm like waking up do you think it's because they were actively in your brain i think so i never asked my doctor i should you should because that's very abnormal i think for you to have any memory from yeah while you're on when they're tinkering around in there you remember it to this day vividly can i tell you a boring story you won't care about so the golden gate bridge yeah after the company that built that bridge erected it they were like that's a damn good bridge let's go try to sell this around the world and you know lisbon bought one lisbon has a golden it's identical to the same company yeah they got down there like hey look at this bridge we did in san francisco you want one yeah we'll take one amazing good on the port the golden bridge they do no the gullible is my word the gullible bridge okay so i'm gonna maybe guess that for you delivering was more tolerable because in your childhood and mildly explained by the fact that mom was a phys ed teacher you swam you played tennis you did volleyball you were on the cheerleading team for the soccer club you did hip-hop dance you did ballet you are curious and with good memory thank you i've been spared that procedure you had thus far but obviously you've had an entire childhood of learning to endure pain once you learn to get through it it is for me i'm similar that stuff doesn't bother me much it's just not in my yeah do you think that's part of it all the things yeah when you're very physical you have more tolerance to pain and being pushed was all of this motivated by yourself all this physical activity or was mother going let's go both i was born very active still to this day i can't just sit and do nothing my body gets aggravated and my mom it was like i finished school i finished my homework take a ball and go out and play there's no hours and hours and hours of tv and stuff and what kind of engineer was dad medicine science for example he worked in this uh how do you call it uh it's like a pill that has multiple cameras that you swallow before you go to do colonoscopy oh wow and it films your whole digestive tract on its way out yeah cool he's like a mechanical or biomechanical but he also worked in like satellites he's like in charge of the brain stay tuned for more expert if you dare. 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With so many options from the best brands, you can pick the shade, coverage, and finish that's just right for you. And don't worry, it's easy to find your match with help from our expert beauty advisors and shade matching tools, plus free samples to take home and try. Visit Sephora in-store and online to find your match. I have a bit of a stereotype. For engineers, I had one as a stepdad. I have had two stepdads that were engineers. My dad is an engineer as well. Does he fit the stereotype? I mean, was he pretty cerebral? You know what chat told my dad? You are a computer. You're me. You're thorough. And then he said in two words, and then he said, you're very specific and thorough. My dad is very like, yeah, very cerebral. Okay. Now we're getting somewhere. So this other thing that's pretty well known about engineers too, is like their bedside manner is not great. It's like, no, no, that doesn't work, period. Like I see that that doesn't work. They have no problem with that. Coupled with, we had this incredible expert on years ago, probably six years ago, that wrote a book about disagreeability across cultures. And you know who the most disagreeable people on the planet are? Engineers? Israelis. Oh, Israelis. This is not a negative thing. This is like, we'll challenge authority, no fear to object. It's all because of the Bible. Every Friday, every Shabbat, you used to get together and pepper over the story, the parasha, of this week's Bible story. And what, you're encouraged to challenge it and debate it? It's like debating over the Shabbat table. Okay, great. So when I combine the highest disagreeability culture with also an engineer, what was it like to interact with him? He's a softie. He's a girl's dad. Oh, he is. Well, you were texting him this morning about Chet. I was like, check what you are. My mom was like, oh my God, he knows me so well. I'm curious. And my dad is like, I'm thorough. My dad, he was the breadwinner and worked morning to night and very loving. What happened when you became emotional? How did he handle that? Did he walk out of the room? Was he like, uh-oh, emotions? I think that now when he's older, he's embracing his emotions much more than ever than my dad. This is all of us, man. He wants to talk about emotions. He wants to cry a little bit. Yeah. He wants to talk about his challenges, if he's feeling anything. That's great. It's incredible. We were just talking about this with the guest yesterday. I think women and men are on this opposite trajectory. It's like when I met Kristen, she cried every couple hours. I hadn't cried in 20 years. And now she rarely ever cries and I cry every 20 minutes. And I'm like, well, that's an interesting trajectory. And I've noticed that's pretty consistent among the people I know. Well, at some point, the men, I think it's when you have children, something pops open and then the pipe has been clogged for 400 years. I also think you're so busy with building your careers and building your homes and providing and this and that. And all of a sudden, I think there is a point where the children get older that you start feeling we're not here forever. And actually, we're asking ourselves, what's the most important thing in life? And it's like, well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't Making you feel emotional. And I think that if you're smart and wise and have good emotional intelligence, then you connect to your feelings at one point. Now you have the time. You're not in the race. Yeah, I'm like, oh, good. I did it. I climbed the mountain. Yeah. That's over. I don't have to be tough and strong. Exactly. I proved what I needed to prove to whoever it is. What did I miss? Oh, everything. All these emotions. Okay, great. Well, bring them all in. Bring them all in right now. Yeah. Okay, I have one bone to pick with you. Okay. So as the lore goes, you're in high school. You're doing all these incredible things athletically. People had at different times suggested perhaps you should model, right? And you were not interested in that. And instead, when you graduated high school, you got a job at Burger King. This sounds so American, right? Wow, he does. You think about like someone's in Israel. Through high school, I worked in Burger King. Okay, great. Do they have the chicken sandwich there? I love the Whopper, the garlic Whopper. Garlic Whopper? We don't have the garlic Whopper. We don't. We're too agreeable. We're too agreeable for garlic. We don't have the chicken sandwich that comes in a rectangle. I don't know if they have that in Israel, but here. With the proprietary Burger King mayonnaise, it's so good. Oh, it's so good. It's oily. I love it. Okay, so you're working at Burger King. Now, here's my grievance because I have heard this same story from probably five guests. And at this point, I'm like, I'm a little suspicious of it. Tell me. So it's that you didn't want anything to do with modeling, but mom and her friends submitted you to the Miss Israel pageant. It's true. I just think it's very interesting that of all these people I've interviewed that are all pageant winners, none of them submitted themselves. Who was it? Priyanka Chopra was one, I think. So was Jenny Garth. I think she accidentally got herself on the podium at a pageant. Before you defend yourself, would it be okay if you wanted to be in a pageant at 18? Yeah, in Israel, in my days, it used to be a big deal. Now, I think they canceled it. They have a bad track record for the abuse. Pageants in general, right? The men have made it terrible. But not in Israel. It just became out of. Passé. Yeah, it's whatever. No one cares. But in my days, I was thinking to myself, all right, I'll go and I'll get to tell my grandchildren that grandma competed in Miss Israel. It was like royal. Yeah. 2004? 2004. You're amazing. Computer. And then. You went to Miss Universe. I went to Miss Universe. You won a Citroën for winning Miss Israel. I won a Citroën C5, yeah. What's a Citroën? Yeah, a little car, a little French car. Oh! How fun is it to win a car when you're 18? And I sold it. You know what I did? I sold it. I drove it for three months, and then I was like, I don't need a car. Yeah, okay. I'll take my parents' cars. They had a car for me. And I'm going to play with the money a little bit. And I sold it for 80,000 shekels. Nice! What is that in Peruvian. Less than 30. Yeah, it's nothing. But it was amazing. And then I went to Miss Universe, yeah. Which was in Ecuador. Ecuador. Si. Si, si, si. Ecuadorian. What was the experience like? I was so fearful I'm going to win again because I never tried or wanted to win the Miss Israel pageant. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to win this. No. But they wanted you to put on a cocktail dress that you weren't having that or something, right? No, and I was smoking every week and not giving a care in the world. You weren't grateful enough to be there for them to give you the win. Who won that year? What country won, do you know? Australia, I think. Oh, good for them. She was amazing. I bet. You know what the thing is? You go to the Miss Universe pageant, you don't have a name anymore. I was Miss Israel. Oh, sure. It's kind of convenient when you're meeting people. I was with Miss Norway in the room and we were best friends with Miss This and That. Oh, wow. Oh, tell me about Miss Norway because they too culturally have some fun stuff going on. Really? Was she wild? She was amazing. Okay. You're not going to say wild? No. She wasn't wild. Well, no one was probably wild at Miss Universe. It goes like this. So the South Americans, they are the most experienced, super poised. They're there to win. They own that ship. The European ones, they're very mellow, no drama. There's the Asian girls who were great too. There wasn't much drama. I was not making drama, but I was the rebellion compendent. Competitor? Yeah. Contestant. Contestant. Contestant. Thank you. Okay. So you left that and then you pretty then immediately start your conscript. right? You're mandatory two-year military services. That's right on the heels. I went there. I came back to Israel. The fame of being Miss Israel was too much for me. So I went to do some modeling in Milano for three months, then had to come back and do my service in the military. Really quick. How was that three months in Milan? Wild. I thought it was so fun. It was amazing. Now that I think about it, I have no idea how my parents let me. I was 18 by myself in Milan. Were you living with other models like they do? I was living with more models. Miss Guam, Miss Mongolia. A lot of Russian, a lot of Ukraine, a lot of, you know, girls from everywhere. Is that what the primary ethnicity was at the time in modeling in 04? Was there a lot of Eastern Europeans? There was a lot of Eastern Europeans. They were from everywhere. But yes. Can we go back for one second? I want to ask why you were afraid to win. Because it felt the responsibility. Okay. You weren't like feeling fraudulent. The exposure, the fear. Fame. I was like a girl. I was a dancer, an athlete. I think this is part of the reason people want to distance themselves from it is it's fun to do for a minute, but it probably didn't feel terribly substantive to you. What is substantive? Meaning in athletics, I set this goal. I have times I reach for it. I work very, very hard. It's objective. There's a timer. I take this test. I did this number. This is like a very subjective. Yeah. You don't look great in heels. It's not up to you. It's all about how you look. And it's very superficial. Yeah. And you were probably desiring something a little more concrete. Who were you? I guess that's the question. But I was enjoying it. Don't get me wrong. I was like enjoying both worlds. I was looking down at it. Looking down your nose at it and enjoying it. And enjoying it. You can feel above it and participate in it. Yeah. But you're definitely not going to win if that's how you look at it. You have to respect it, right? Kicking you to the curb. No, I didn't. Okay. Yeah. So then you start your military service. So because of this great athletic background of yours, you become a trainer in the military. And then you learn Krav Maga. And I just am curious if you can tell me the history of Krav Maga. Is it pulling from other martial arts? What I remember is using your surroundings against your attacker. So if there's stones, if there's sand, they teach you where to hit first. Pretty simple. Okay. If I know it correctly, the ethos of it is, real world combat not in a ring not on a mat not at a contest it's like okay when you're in the shit in real life let's look around what can we utilize exactly although we did it in a very contained space on mattresses yeah yeah yeah it'd be fun if they had like foam training rocks and foam yeah broomsticks yeah like logs foam tea kettle then this really interesting thing happens that if it doesn't happen you and i never meet in our life right your life is on a completely different trajectory which is somehow you well not somehow and i want the explanation you end up in maxim while you're still in the military right yeah how did that come about maxim magazine for people don't remember who are not my age it was a men's magazine with beautiful girls in it yeah israel decided to promote israel through the beautiful women that go to the idf and therefore let's put them on maxim magazine and i was one of the women and then i was invited to the gala oh and i went with my husband back then was trying to think if we were married already no you met in 06 right in 06 yeah okay that's amazing you remember this about every one you interview yeah it's the goal and then you forget the goal no unfortunately i remember quite a bit of it wow that's really impressive very impressive the goal to let you in on my game play is the goal is to never look at this piece of paper okay so you were asking about maxim i don't think that maxim was the thing that changed the trajectory this maxim spread ended up on the cover of the new york post and this and that and there was controversy within the country of whether the tourism board should i do nothing and i feel like controversy chases me wherever i fucking go yeah yeah and if you have any tips on how to avoid it do sage i try different stuff it always follows so we come to the gala we go to sleep we wake up i'm on the cover and i know there's like this controversy going on in israel different ministers are starting to argue whether or not it's the right thing to do to promote israel crazy stuff all i did was being paid 500 bucks to do the photo shoot and now i'm invited to this thing in new york and i'm 21 i wake up and the ambassador is calling me in new york and he's like listen there's been a thing go downstairs it's when you still can buy the newspaper at the corner of each go get the new york post you're on the cover on the new york post and cnn wants to interview you and folks news and nbc news oh my god i'm like looking at my husband and i'm like why do i how and he's like we ride the wave the ambassador your name means your name means wave right we ride the wave so we go and i do all these interviews my english is nowhere where it is now gal became fluent in english by watching seinfeld and friends you got a girl that's why i connect with you that's why i understand you so well i'm about to be 39 amazing yeah we're same generation 41 yes amazing when's your birthday monday august 24th congratulations thank you okay 39 40s the big one i know it's coming up so your english is rough my english is rough i do the thing it's so bad to a point where wolf blitzer is interviewing me and yaron was standing next to the cameraman and i'm like yaron how do you say this in uh english and then yaron is like no you don't look at me never ever did he ever go inside a place so i don't ask him that live right can you imagine someone's starting to speak a different language you don't know well interview never and that was how i started my public life yeah are they asking you specifically about the controversy or are they just like who are you i remember i had two agendas what agendas two like talking goals one is i'm not gonna get into this silly argument i'm just gonna acknowledge everyone can have their own opinions and that's it and the other one was i invite everybody to come to israel and la dida because it's crazy what people think about israel they think we're like riding camels and everything is deserts and people walk around with m16 which is not the case whatsoever we ride donkeys and we carry m4s you're more chic you're like cowboys you know you heard kettles and you do the things but i was like i invite you all to come to israel it's great it's so much fun like a 20 year old girl would representing your country yeah what do you do okay you get out of the military after two years and then this is also comedic you go to college university and you're gonna do medicine because primarily ali mcbeal not medicine law oh i'm sorry sorry sorry law i didn't watch ali mcbeal okay you've just found the crack in my knowledge if she watched gray's anatomy it would have been exactly you were thinking i'm so sorry so you want to do law because of ali mcbeal and at this point i said to myself in the research this bitch loves tv very influenced very easy to influence listen first off my whole idea back then was not really tv i feel like it's something you say on interviews yeah i love ali mcbeal but i think first of all i wanted to be so many things i wanted to be a chemist like in the pharmacy yeah which is weird to me why would i ever okay i wanted to be a choreographer that's okay i understand that 12 years of dance then after all my dad is an engineer my mom's a teacher i needed to have a proper job so i was like okay it's either medicine which i'm not smart enough for or law which i don't like to argue and i don't like conflicts but i was thinking about i don't even know how to say it in english like when you do diplomacy and you know the law and all of these things i was like i'll go there never happened so there is a casting director in london who somehow comes across your modeling card correct and decides to have you audition for quantum solace right james bond movie which is a crazy thing to happen very random it's very random and i did not want to go saw your car she went to the agency and she was looking for girls because she was looking for the bond girls and she saw my card and she was probably thinking oh maybe she can be right for it and she asked to see me for an audition which i wasn't planning on going and then my agent called me and i was in school i was in university and he called me and he said where are you she's waiting you should go i was like i'm not gonna go i'm not an actress and it's all in english and blah blah blah go so i walk inside and i had a lamere do you know lamere i love that lamere lip balm i put the lamere and i'm like i'm so sorry i'm late and she's like oh my god my lips are so chapped do you mind if i use it and i'm like yeah keep it oh keep it that's generous for people who've never bought lamere it's a very pricey It's my lips, her lips. We just met. Too much information. I agree. It's like sharing a toothbrush. Just take that. You can keep my toothbrush. That's the crazy thing of her to ask. Well. Because if it's the pot, which it's the pot, right? But it's the pot. Yeah, it's your fingers all in it. This is nuts. But I almost feel that if it was the lipstick, it's more worse. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. That's like sharing a condom. But the pot is all fingers. But anyway, give her the very expensive lip balm. That might have been the reason. And to this day, I think that my kindness led my way. Because she did not get that role. Right. No. But years later. Say it. Say it, Dex. This woman who was gifted a very expensive topical. Her lips were now beautiful and perfect. Not chapped. Urged Universal to meet Gail for Fast and Furious. Crazy. To this day, I'm so grateful for this woman. Yeah. Unreal. And you put yourself on tape or somehow you get an audition that is sent to Los Angeles. And then based on that, they like you enough that they say, come to L.A. and have a, and this is in quotes, a personal meeting with Vin Diesel. No, a test. Like a camera test. Oh, it was a camera test. That sounds much better than the words I read. No, no. Have a personal meeting with Vin Diesel. And we went to a hotel suite. No way. It was hot. No. It was hot. No, it was just a chemistry. Okay, it was just a test. Camera test. Okay, great, great, great, great. Do you know how many finalists there were? How many people were tested? A bunch. What clicked? Why did that work? I don't know. I had good chemistry with them. Were you nervous? Did you want the job or were you kind of like take or leave it? No. I wanted the job. I came here. I remember I had to go back to, I came for like a night, morning, and then I left. Wow, okay. I don't know. I was ready. So I came very prepared. Yeah. So I did a good audition. And I had good chemistry with all of them, with the director. Okay, so you end up in Fast and Furious. That was the fourth one was the first one you did? And so at that time, what are your thoughts about the future? Like you're in this enormous franchise. I have two parents who are like, you need to go back to school to get a job. You need to get a real job. This is temporary. This is a phase. And I had an incredible, I have an incredible husband who was like, this is the lighter side of life. Just let's enjoy it. It's okay. He was the dreamer. And I'm, you know. That's what I think I picked up the tension in your life a little bit as I learned about you is like this reluctance to be in the pageant, then this perhaps reservation about doing this thing. And it feels like it's the tension of having parents that were professional. And perhaps your fear that they would think what you were doing was vapid and pointless. I think I need to lay down on the sofa. I think there's something there. And I think. It's also when you start a career in such a young age and it's not like medicine, you're not a doctor with a goal. And I never knew being an actress was an option and it goes against my sign. I'm a Taurus. I like stability. I like to know what's going on. You're a Taurus through and through. Taurus with a Taurus horizon in the ox year. Ooh. That's where it gets tricky. And I must say, I'm not stubborn at all. I'm very open-minded. Yeah, because there aren't Tauruses stubborn. I'm like Taurus in other ways. But anyway, let's go back to subject. You're flexible. But it was all new to me. It was going a lot against my personality because it's a lot of traveling, a lot of uncertainty. Nothing is up to me. Yeah. I'm not in control of anything. Yeah. Powerless. And it's hard. Very. And I don't like it. Yeah. And sometimes I get roles and you do all these auditions and it's awful. I would say now there's this murky gap between that extraordinarily auspicious thing, getting in Fast and Furious. And then Wonder Woman. Tell me about those years. I imagine it felt like there was security on the table. And then the next month you'd be like, no, that was it. No, but it's different phases. So I did Fast four, five, and six. They killed me on seven. It was such a hilarious way when the director called me. But Justin Lin called me one day and he's like, listen, I'm going to send you the script. On this one, we're going to have to deal with your death. And I'm like, she's deaf? And he's like, no, no. Deaf, deaf. I'm like, yeah, I hear you. She lost her hearing. I can learn sign language. And he's like, die, die. You're going to die. Oh, no. You're dead. I was like, oh. There will be no Fast Eight for you. Dead. Dead. Finito de comedia. Did you take it personally? No. I was bummed. Yeah. Because it was a great. Fast and Furious is crazy. It's like a community. The casts are. They're huge. There's so many of us. Yeah. And within the years, 25 years, everybody loves each other and everybody knows each other is the good parts and the last good. But everybody love each other. And I was sad not to be part of this community anymore. After Fast and Furious, when we came here, I did so many auditions. We came for the premiere of the last Fast before they killed me. Supposedly, I'm back. I did the eighth one. Oh, one. Yeah, I came on. I came. I came on. Come on. It's Fast and Furious. They resurrected me. They can do anything. Yeah, exactly. So around there, I come and I do so many auditions and a callback and a match and I don't get it. And another one and a callback and I don't get it. And I had a two-year-old daughter by then. And Iran had like a hotel and real estate and stuff. And I told Iran, I don't think I can do it anymore. It's like, fuck it. It's too much rejection. Why? I'll go back to school or I'll be a sculptor. Then I wanted to be a sculptor. Sculptor. Sculptor. Thank you. Sculptor's the product. We could have left. I know. I thought about it. No, no, no. I thought about it. Thank you. Monica, that was why there was a long delay. I didn't correct her immediately. You're the best and I appreciate you so much. I wanted everyone to know you don't mean that you want to be a statue. I did see the meme. I did already see the meme. Yes, I just wanted to help everyone. God damn it. No, you corrected me once too. Please always correct me. I just wanted to hear what happened to me this weekend. So I'm having friends over. Yeah. For brunch. And I'm cooking and we talk and we talk. And then I go, yeah, well, you know, it's like it's water across the bridge. And then they go under. Yeah. But for years I've been saying across the bridge. No one said anything. I speak to my friend Melissa here and I go, you know, but we need to think about the objective. And in the back door, I'm translating from Hebrew. Sure. In the back door, I just feel and then my husband who was on the call is like, you don't, you don't want to get your objective through back door is more like anal. Maybe you do and that's okay too. I don't want to shame anyone. Yeah, no, it's fine. It just was completely translated from Hebrew. So thank you. Always feel free to correct me. I'm always learning. Oh, I know this only felt important in that moment because I know she didn't want to be a sculpture. I thought it was sweet. Maybe she didn't want to be a sculpture. Well, that's why we needed to correct it. And that's why we needed to correct it. That's also cool. I don't know. We need to know. Okay. So you want to be a sculptor potentially. Sculptor? Sculptor. Sculptor. Sculptor. It's hard. It's a hard word. One day. On your deathbed, you'll say the perfect English sentence. Sculptor. One of our best friends is from Venezuela and I'm around her all the time. And so we do run into this often. And I'm always deciding like, what does she need to be corrected on? What does she not? Just not to stop the flow of the conversation. No, I get that. But that was a good fix. I always wanted to be a sculptor. To be admired, you know. Honestly, I do want to be a sculptor. I know. Wouldn't we all? It would be great. You got to be worthy of a sculptor. And then I told Iran, let's just stop it. And then I did the audition for Wonder Woman. And just to remind people, so first was Batman v. Superman. And Wonder Woman was going to make her first appearance in it. So at the moment, it's not like we're thinking you're. They wanted to test. It's the water. Yeah. And you're not necessarily at that moment thinking, I'm auditioning to be in a Wonder Woman only movie. No, you didn't know what you were auditioning for. It was like a secret. They didn't tell you. They gave me a scene that only later I realized was an Uma Thurman scene from. Pulp Fiction? Yeah. Oh, wow. But then finally, when they called me to do the test with Ben, then the director called me and he said, I don't know if you have it in Israel. But did you ever hear about Wonder Woman? You're like, bitch, I watch all the TV. Have I ever. Have I ever. I know, Ally McBeal. Exactly. Friends. Seinfeld. Yes. We skipped one thing and I only want to plant a seed because I'm going to bring it up later. But you also, after the first fest, you did Night and Day, Tom Cruise movie. And you're in a scene with Tom Cruise. An incredible man. Yeah. Tell me about the experience. I flew to Vienna to do the scene. I had, I think it was one night of work with him. And he was the most wonderful and they changed the scene completely. So you come, you learned all your lines. And now with my English, they completely scratched that. Oopsies. And somehow I figured it out. And we did the scene together and it was an incredible experience. And we had a lot of waiting to do like you have when you shoot a movie. And he was like, I don't know. And he was talking to me a lot about my grandfather was a Holocaust survivor and Tom did, um. Oh, Valkyrie? Was it Valkyrie? I was wanting to say that, but now I'm like, yeah, so Valkyrie. I think so. Yeah, you're right. And he was like, so curious about my family and my heritage. And years later, after I did Wonder Woman, we met in his house with another director and producer. No, real reminisce of the days. No, but another producer and director. And he opened the door and he greeted me and I didn't even think he would remember who I am. So I introduced myself and he's like, what are you talking about? We did that. How's your grandfather? Is he still around? That's amazing. Yes. That's people really. Is he the one that does the cake? Yes. Did you get a cake? Have you gotten a cake from him? Okay. We shouldn't have brought that up. Nevermind. There's no cake. Either of we. I haven't. He makes cakes. He sends the same cake to everyone. He's most of the people he's worked with. Not everyone. A large percentage of the people he's worked with. Only some people. Well, I worked with him for one night. Tom, it's fine. It's okay. I can take it. Tom, let's get Gal the cake. No, it's fine. I don't like cakes. It's fine. I like chocolate. It's a fun thing in Hollywood. And it's like basically in your friendship circle, the goal is to know someone who gets the cake and try it, which I got to do last year. So you don't get the cake? I've never worked with him. I've never even, well, I have met him. Look at him. I'm not supposed to get the cake. No, I don't deserve it. Did you get a Vins? How do you call the house you built from cookies in America? Gingerbread gingerbread house. Who gives a gingerbread house then? Oh, that's his thing. No, I've never worked with him. No. Do you get the gingerbread house? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The biggest one. They bring it on a mobile home trailer. We should start doing this. We should start sending out something and it's like special. Our guests will get it. You should send like cool chairs. Obviously. That feels expensive. Yeah. Could you do something more in like a hundred dollar range? Gingerbread is very expensive. I think the Tom Cruise cake is pricey too. But that sounds great. And then I think of us trying to compile the list and get addresses and then I'm out. So wait a second. You didn't try the cake. It was a game night at Liz Bang's house. And someone at this party had worked with Tom Cruise enough that they got the cake and they're smart. They know to bring it to the party because everyone wants to try the Tom Cruise cake. What was it? It's coconut. It's always a coconut cake. With like a vanilla spongy middle. I guess. I've looked up pictures. It's beautiful. I considered ordering it myself. It's a thing. I'm so out of the loop. It's so hard to immerse in the American culture fully. Well, you're a mother of so many children. You don't need to. How many kids do you have? Two. Two girls? Two girls. You have four girls, right? Yeah. How old? 11 and 13. Oh, that's right. How's it going? That's right. How's the 13th? I'll leave it at there because they're their own people. They don't like what you talk about? Okay. Well, no, I tell everything that's spectacular about them. Good. I think that's what we should do. That's right. Oh, so you live it with that. You know we're entering teenagehood. I know. I know. I know. How old's your oldest? 14 and a half. Oh, yeah. You know exactly what's happening. Going to high school now. I have like a teenage girl, a girl, a toddler, and like a little girl. A little girl and a toddler. Yeah. It's everywhere. You've got them all. It's amazing. It's exhausting. And it's hard, too. It's very hard. They didn't expect it. As soon as you figure them out, they change. Exactly. There's never like a status quo. And every time someone has a different need that you need to adjust everybody to. Yeah. But it's the most rewarding and amazing thing. Stay tuned. For more Armchair Expert, if you dare. It's funny. My mom always tells me, oh, it's so hard. Like any challenge about life for my mom is like, wow, it's so hard. How do you do it? It's like she relates too much that she feels more suffering than I ever will. Not just the kids, like anything. And I started telling her, Ima, I feel like life is. It's a struggle. Every day, it's not comfortable. Life is not convenient. Correct. It's always like we need to overcome. But then is when you're happy. That's when you get happy. You've earned it. Yeah, when you earn it. Okay, so through the Batman v. Superman, you end up getting your own movie, Wonder Woman, the first one. And Monica, do you remember how much money this fucking movie made? I don't. 862. It opened at $103 million. The estimates were like 65. And this fucking thing was just a juggernaut. I love that. How, after these years of frustration, did you integrate this new bit of information that was virtually opposite of your whole ride prior to that? How did you join these two experiences into something cohesive? And how hard or easy was that? I think like in life, it builds up, right? You don't leave the jumps. I'm not still stuck in where I was and all the rejection. Now I had. I had to deal with filming a movie, be the little girl that needs to conquer this mountain, and how do I do it? And it's the first time that I'm doing a movie that is my title, and it's so physical, and how do I do it? And being a mom. And so there was a lot to do throughout the film. We were always pushing. Patty and I were always like, let's change the script, and the studio wouldn't give you the extra money to film it. So you need to film the two versions. The two versions of the scene, all in one day, to make sure. So you do all of that. Also, yeah, they had half the budget a normal movie of that kind would have had. We were like the underdogs. Yeah. Again, going back to women's health awareness and all of that. Let's do a movie for the girls and blah, blah, blah. Exactly. Hopefully it'll break even. Yeah, exactly. Let's see how it's gonna. Let's give them no resources. And Patty and I were like, this is gonna be so special, and we need this type of movie, and we need this type of. And it's all about love, love, love. We were all. From the first time Patty and I. We met, all we talked about was love and humanity, and how do we bring light to the world. And it sounds a little bit like, who the fuck do we think we are, right? But when you're given an opportunity to tell a story that is about something, and you want to say something about something positive, why not? Yeah. So we were super invested, and then the movie comes out. It was amazing, but I wasn't popping. Okay. To be fair. To be fair, I was going through a postpartum. I had my second one, and she was eight weeks old when we started promoting the movie, and I had a major back injury. So I was miserable. And then, so when the movie opened, I was very happy, and I felt satisfied with the success, but I wasn't. Happy. Happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was some kind of asymmetry between where I was personally in my own life. In my own body, to what the outside world would think about me. Yeah, it's confusing. Okay, so that kind of answers what I meant, my next question, which is, so often, I think, for many of us who get lucky, it's weirdly hard to be present for it. Because the lucky event can potentially lead to lots of opportunity, lots of options, lots of shit in the future. It signals, oh, wow, I might now have this future. And so. The monkey brain can't resist thinking of now what's possible because of this one thing. You often kind of miss the thing. Did you experience that at all? For me, it's not even that, necessarily. Well, first of all, the way my mental health works, and it's nothing that I do to control it, I only realize what happened to me in retrospective. So when I'm there, it's too overwhelming. It's too much to grasp and to understand fully. I just ride the wave, and I understand, it clicks, but I'm not feeling it. Correct, yeah, yeah, yeah. Only in retrospective, when I can actually grasp it. Only in retrospective, I can grasp on these type of things. I feel like when it happens, it's too overwhelming. When you're in it. You don't have time. It makes me sad, though. But I think it's a protection mechanism that our mind has, because you can lose your mind. Some part of you doesn't trust it. It's very hard to compute what's happening. But it's also not about me. It's not about you. Yes, it's my success, it's my face, it's my movie, blah, blah, blah. But it's not me that they love. It's like this image, this character. A female being a matriarch, which no one gets to see, no little girls get to see, or it's very rare. Yes, I agree with you. And when I say it, I'm talking about not just as the female. It's funny, I'm trying to find the right words to put it, but I think that if you really get it, if you're really present in the moment of success because of the ego, it can bring you to places that can be very tricky. You're suggesting that it might be healthier to miss it. Not to miss it completely, but it's like the best food for ego, right? Yes, yes, yes. And I think, most people think, the ego is the worst enemy a human can have. It can take you out. I think ego's gotten a bad rap, but I know what you're saying. Okay, I'm interested to hear. Yeah, this notion. That you should be egoless is ridiculous. You need your ego. You can't be ego. Yeah, we can't, of course. No, and you need to pursue your own, and then you go too far, and you learn, and you dial it back, but it's a yin and yang, and it's a bandwagon. The ego like this, like, yeah, give me more bottomless, insatiable, very superficial level. And it is. But there is a percentage of it that is ideal. That makes you a better person and makes you live up to what the ego tells you you are. I might be able to do this thing currently. It doesn't seem like I could. That's your ego. And that's good. Someone stared at Everest and was like, yeah, no one's got to the top of that. I think I could. That's ego. Now, if he gets up there, he's like, oh, my God, now we're in trouble. Exactly. But the ego got you up there. But don't you think a lot of people, I met a lot of successful people that when I talked to them about the moment of success, the moment of breakthrough that they've had in their careers, I find that a lot of them were in the same area as I was. They didn't pop the champagnes and like parties and did it. They had some weird tension going on with it. I had it even more because of the postpartum and because of my back injury. And some would say that it's all one. Yeah, yeah. It's all part of one thing. Well, yeah, I think it's hard when people are like, you're the greatest, you're the greatest, you're the greatest, and you're you. You don't feel like the greatest. By the way, you're not. And if you feel like you're the greatest, then that's also a problem. It's a huge problem. Yeah. So I think being wary of it's wise. Yeah. You got to keep your eye on it. You got to keep, yeah. Okay, let's talk about the runner. Yes. Yes. So I had brought up Tom Cruise because nobody has ever ran. In a motion picture, as well as Tom Cruise. I'm so obsessed with his running. My children are too. We watch the Mission Impossible movies on repeat. We love them. I love it. And I love that every one of those movies, they're going to build in a sequence where you're going to watch this man run. And sometimes you're going to watch this man run in a one solid wide shot for like two and a half minutes at a sprint. Yeah, it's amazing. And I'm like, how does this guy not rip his Achilles and his hammies and his everything? He did. He did. Okay. That's awesome. That's the answer. How does he not? He does. Yeah. Okay. So the premise of the runner is you are a lawyer and you are also a runner and you have this little boy and the little boy's diabetic. When we meet you, you're dropping him off at school and then you're going to go for your run. We can tell immediately this is your half hour of your day. Right. That is bliss. She starts the day. She goes for a run. What's the great song you start with? Blondie. Was it Blondie? Yeah, it's Blondie. It's so good that when I heard it, I was like, fuck, I got to drop back in. I got to drop back into some Blondie. It's so good. She's so good. So you start running. There's another dude in the park. Now it annoys me that I can't remember. Rob. Rob. I'm trying to find it. That's a bell. Ah, bell. One way or another? One way. No. Ring of fire? No. Okay. We're not going to find it. All right. Go on. I thought you were going to look at the movie credits, not their greatest hits. They're not there yet. Okay. Okay. So. I love you, Rob. You have a hard job. We're constantly like, how many feet are in a kilometer? Go. I need it now. Now it's that easy we chat. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So. Yes. You've dropped your kid off. You're going through your run through the park. You know, you're on a call with a client. We learned that you're a lawyer. And then it's back to fun time. And you see another dude who's running. He's fast. And already at this point in the movie, I'm like, how long is she going to run? Yep. Y'all. She's going to run the entire fucking movie. It's insane. So just in a nutshell, you get then another call. It's coming from your child's phone. You learn quickly that your son's been abducted by somebody. And now this person is giving the kind of, I would say the things that it parallels is on the bus speed, a lock. You're on a phone call. Someone has the leverage. I'm racing time to save my son's life. That's right. And you run through all of London. I'm pretty sure. Over six miles. Oh. Of London. And yeah. And are they like, if you stop running, he's dead. I'm not allowed to stop running. I'm not allowed to talk to anybody. I'm not. I'm not allowed to get on a cab or a tube or anything. I need to run and save my child. Because there is a legal case she's involved with. Yeah. We're not going to tell you the whole movie, but it's like a non-stop. When you start watching it, it's like not a second to take another breath. You're at the edge of your seat. In no particular order. What is the game plan? You go like, okay, you read the script. Okay. Yeah. This is really cool. And then do you even let yourself go like, but how are we going to film this? And what will that experience be like? Do you not let yourself even consider that because you like the movie? Okay. So I'll give you the time frame. So I read it after what happened to me with my fourth baby and almost dying, blah, blah, blah. They did the whole thing. It took me many months to recover. So for months, for the first months, I was just in bed, listening to podcasts, reading a little bit and just resting and walking with shades in the house all the time because I had migraines all day long. And then I read the script. And I think. I think to myself, really fucking good script. I couldn't put it down. Yeah. It was so good. I read it one go. When it works, it works and you know it. And I speak to my agent and I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this film now. And honestly, I don't even know if Tom Cruise can do this film. I think the running is non-stop. Who can do this film? Is it AI? Who's going to run it? 110 pages of running? And she's like, okay, just take the call with Kevin McDonald, the director. Quickly add. He directed one of my. My very favorite movies of all time. Last King of Scotland. Yeah. Amazing, talented, great, great director. I take the zoom with him and I say to myself, I'm not going to start talking about what happened to me in my head. I'm not going to, I'm just going to be professional. Let's talk about it. And he's like, so I heard you just said your baby. I'm like, yeah. He's like, it gets easier from one pregnancy to the next now from one delivery to the other. I was like, oh, I'm not really on this one. He's like, what happened? And I'm like, I had like a thing called CBT. But it's fine now on you had cerebral venous thrombosis. He knew about it. Oh, he had it before I did. Whoa. No way. We call that SIM. No way. Six weeks before I did. Six weeks before. Oh my goodness. What number child was his? Uh, who was he giving birth? No, but I was like, there's a migrant stage. Yes. I'm in it. Anyway, we connect on this level. We talk about the script. He tells me. He's in his vision. I love it. But I say, listen, I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not there. I'm just recovering. And he says, well, after talking to you now, I can't imagine anybody else doing this role. How long would you need? And I go nine months, one year, and we hang up. And then he calls me back, I think within the hour. And he said, the studio is willing to push it for you. Would you be? Are you in? Are you in? Wow. And then I said, yeah. And you know what else is crazy? All the neurologists that I went to see after what happened to me told me, you need to break sweat at least half an hour a day. If there's one thing I hate is running. Hate. Oh, really? And I'm also spiritual a little bit. I was like, this is the universe giving me exactly what I need. A director that will understand what I've been through. Breaking sweat like there's no tomorrow. Yeah, forcing you. What can be better than that? So a couple of months later. A couple of months later, they brought me the most amazing trainers. And were they specifically like running coaches? The first one, Malachi, was for running. And was that person like a collegiate coach or something for running? He trains the US Olympic. Oh, there we go. Incredible. And I worked with him every day for months. And was he a sprinting coach or a long distance coach? Sprinting, but I ran long distance. Yeah. So my question was, I had a sprinting incident on my birthday this year. Are you a runner? Well, I'm born on January 2nd. My New Year's resolution was, okay, I got to do sprints twice a week. That was your New Year's resolution? You've got to do sprints? Twice a week, yeah. Your life is in a really good place. Absolutely. I'm down to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got to do sprints. You're right. What a privilege that that was my New Year's resolution. Anyways, first run out. I happened to do with a bunch of people. We got a little competitive. My friend blew out a butt cheek. I fucked up my foot. And then I was like, okay, I got to learn what the pre-sprint warmup is. And then I asked chat. And dude, it's lengthy. If I can swing this way, swing. I mean. Of course, it's hard on your body. Sprinting is very hard. Don't make me feel stupid. I know, it's hard. Like my husband say, don't try. I don't know. How old are you? 51. My husband, he always say, never pick up a new sports after 50. Yeah, I think that's fair and smart. Yeah. I mean, I had sprinted before. Anyways, was there an insane warmup before you would do takes? Yeah. I'm an impatient person. So that part of the process would be very hard for me. Like, okay, I'm about to do the scene. I'm going to do 20 minutes of warmup. No, not like that. Okay. But it would be in like seven minutes. Now I need to do some cycling. Then I need to do some stretching. Then I need to do this. And then I go. But I finished the film on crotches. Oh, my next question was, did you get hurt? How many times did you get hurt? I got hurt multiple times throughout the film. The character had a watch and I connected the watch to my phone. So I can see my steps and everything. I had weeks where. I had like one hundred and fifty something thousand steps. Yeah, so it was nonstop and there's no time to recover. You don't sleep well because you film all the time. You work in the cold, in the heat, whatever. And when people watch this movie and they're like, wow, that was a really long sprint. I don't think I could sprint that long. You must remember that was one of eight takes before the fucking extras crossed at the right time. It was a whole thing, but I had like a stress fractures in my feet. I bet. - And I'm an ugly runner. - No, I was just about to make that point. the opposite statement. No, because we know how to film it. Okay. I run beautifully until my knees. Knees down. What happens? Phoebe from Friends. No! I'm telling you. Her whole body is flailing. No, she does it. No, that's all in control. Knees down. But what do you mean? There's not much to the knee down. You mean the feet? Well, you'll be surprised. Okay. I kind of want to see it. I kick them out. I kick them out. Oh, gazelle-like. I think. Okay, well, that did probably hurt your feet. Okay, so we want to do heel-toe next time. Just reminding people about it. No, heel-toe. I did heel-toe and everything. It's just the way. Did you have days where you, you know, you've got your 6 a.m. pickup or whatever, you have longer hair and makeup, it's probably 5 a.m.? Did you have any days where you woke up and you're like, oh, yeah, not a chance we can shoot that scene today? Never, ever, ever happened to me in my entire career. Even on this movie? I trust the people that I work with. I know that everyone that are gonna show up are gonna show up, and I need to deliver. Wow. Okay. But if I have these type of moments, even then, I was about to say, unless I'm, like, super sick, but even then, I. Any cortisone shots in joints or feet during the filming? Were they having to work on you like a boxer? Yeah. They worked on me every day, every other day. Yeah. It was insane. That's the athlete in you. You're gonna keep pushing. You're just gonna show up and do it. Yeah. Even on crutches. By the way, when I was on crutches, we filmed tighter shots. I'm envious of you. To have this movie in your life when you're older and your girls are growing up, and, like, just the physical fucking test you passed. But I knew it was a gift. It wasn't like, oh, fuck, how am I gonna do it? It was like, shit, I'm gonna learn how to run. Oh, my God. But you did it. It's like, it's an accomplishment in and of itself, which I hope is rewarding to you. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is. Very. You have something, period. You'll walk away with something, period, which is rare. Exactly. Forever. That's right. Well, Gail, this was a delight. It was so much fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope you enjoyed your first podcast. It was a lot of fun. It was great. Okay, good. They're all like this. I'll always remember you guys. So just say yes to all of them. I promise they're all like this. It's a lot of fun. They're fun. Thank you so much for being so interesting. Watch The Runner on Amazon Prime September 2nd. 2nd, 2nd, 2nd. September 2nd, September 2nd, September 2nd. Okay, The Runner, Amazon Prime, September 2nd. Thank you so much for coming. This was fun. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. He is at our care expert, but he makes mistakes all the time. Thank God Monica's here. She's gotta let him have the facts. I want to start with revisiting my hemorrhoid thing. Okay. I've done a bit more of an autopsy on it, on what I think actually happened, because I think when we talked about it, I kind of blamed Hannes, if you recall. That's what precluded, preluded it. And I know actually what happened. I'm so used to having the brondle, the sprayer. And here I had this Hannes on the road, and I was doing a ton of wiping. And I'm out of practice wiping without the brondle. And I go too hard and too frequent because it just doesn't, because I'm so used to being able to clean, clean. And I realized that's what caused it. So I'm back kind of on the toilet, spending more time again on Instagram and stuff because I've decided it was definitely more about the wiping, I think, is what it was. Okay. Good luck to you. I believe it. You now have one, right? I had one. Not a hemorrhoid flush. That's what I thought as well. A brondle. Like you have a flushie or whatever the hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have them now in every bathroom. Yeah. And it changes your life, right? Yeah, you're pampered. You are. You take way less abuse down there. Yeah. Yeah. You can get the job done in way less. Yeah. Well, report back on if you get another one. Okay. Next time you're on the road. It won't be. It's going to be because he's on the toilet for a long time. It's going to be before that. He does spend a few minutes down there, huh? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Some me time. I just read a comment the other day that said, I know you're reading on the toilet. Get off. And I wrote on there, busted. When else am I going to do it? I'm not looking at Instagram unless I'm on the toilet. Yeah, that's true. Speaking of things people have said, a lot of people asked if Jack McBrayer texted me on my birthday. He did not. I'm very sorry. So I just need to make that known. Did you text Keckner? No, he texts me. But he didn't. We haven't. We actually haven't done that in a few years. You haven't celebrated a birthday buddy status. No, but I wish I wish him. You share with Keckner? Yeah. Birthday buddy. He used to text me on my birthday because we were birthday buddies. Very sweet. Yeah. So I guess I didn't make the cut for Jack. And he can try again next year. Okay. This is putting that out there. Formal heads up to him. August 24. Big one next year. If ever there was a time to start sending the text, it's next birthday. That's true. So you know my birthday, I went to a really good restaurant. I was just about to ask. How was your birthday dinner? It was incredible. It's called River. It's in Venice. Highly recommend. It was so good. And there were some arm cherries working. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. And so they brought over a special treat. What was it? An aperitivo. That's a cocktail? It's like an after dinner drink. Okay. An aperitif? Yeah. I think it's an aperitif. Yeah. Not an aperitivo. I thought the actual name of the drink was aperitivo. Like a spinoff of aperitif. No. I was saying. Is it Aperol in it or is it some kind of apricot? I don't think it has Aperol in it. Or Teef. Aperitifs have different ones. There's like Fernet. Ding, ding, ding. When we had Bert Kreischer on, we gave each other drinks to drink. Yes. And he wanted me to drink Fernet. That's an after dinner drink in Aperitif. Okay. They're all interesting. They kind of have like a licorice. They taste kind of weird. I think they're meant to like Do they coat? A little. I think they're meant to like cleanse your palate. Grambouillet? Drambouillet? Drambouillet is an aperitif. Drambouillet? Yeah. People only drink it after their Or Grand Marnier. Grand Marnier is something, but I don't know if that's aperitif. That's in like. You know, I carry Drambouillet when I'm at the bar. I don't have a clue what it is. You've ever tasted it? You would never have it as a cocktail. Or I would have never. If they're a sponsor, I'll be happy to. B-R-A-M-B-U-I I think. Okay. Liqueur. Liqueur. Golden Color. 40% ABV. Liqueur made from scotch, whiskey, heather, honey, herbs, and spices. See, that's an aperitif for sure. Yeah, definitely. That's a dessert. No wonder I never served it or tried it. That makes me think you're declaring this is my last drink of the night, which I would never have done. No. It might have been, though it might be like Grand Marnier where you like cook with it or something. I'm not seeing the word aperitif anywhere on this Wikipedia. Could you ask it when it's normally drank? It's a brand. Wait. See, brandy's an after dinner drink for sure. It sure is. But aperitif is not all. All after dinner drinks are not aperitifs, but all aperitifs are after dinner drinks. Are there different types of cigars that are for after dinner? Probably. Right? With your brandy. And aperitif translates directly into English as a pre-dinner alcoholic drink meant to stimulate appetite. Oh, that makes sense because aperitivo is pre-dinner. There we go. But there's a. No, sorry. So there's aperitifs and digestifs. And those are for after. Okay, so which one is Drambuie? It's neither. No, no. It says it's traditionally a digestif. Oh, okay. Traditionally a digestif. Yeah, Drambuie. Look, I've been at a million meals where people order that after. Drambuie? Yeah, I think my father even would bang a Drambuie. That's funny. I had a bottle, and I don't remember ever serving once in seven years. Of course not. That bar? No one came to that bar to have the last drink of the night. A digestif? Yeah. No one had eaten. I would have punched him in the face if they asked me for a digestif. Get out of here. We have that as a test. It's also used in classic cocktails. Rusty Nail. Oh! That was my dad's drink. Yes, it was. Oh, okay. So that's just a cocktail. That's not a digestif. Then a Bobby Burns. That sounds good. Yeah. Bobbies are fun. That's a scotch sweet vermouth Drambuie. I can't even say it. That sounds so stupid. Drambuie? Yeah. And bitters. Yeah, Drambuie's really bumpin' for you, I can tell. Yeah. It sounds like something you. a word you completely made up. Yeah. It sounds like baby talk. Yeah, it does. What do you want, my Drambuie? Your what? Your dark bottle? Your dark blanket? Yeah. Well. Oh, so it was a tremendous meal for you. What were the entrees? What did you. Oh my god, we had so much stuff because it's in Venice, notoriously very far away from my home. So. Time-wise. Time-wise. Not at all far. Nautically. That's true. Yeah. But so we are not going to go that often. Plus, it's very hard to get in. So I don't. So we had to kind of get everything we wanted. Eat the whole menu because it's one and done. Maybe. Yeah. So we got we each got a hand roll different ones we each got no those were the each's and we got this like kind of fried chicken thing that was so good i love right wagyu skewers yes um a rice what leftovers i think there was a few leftovers that obviously just took home um there was a rice like kind of a fried rice but and i had sweet corn and it was delicious um we got oh we got a ramen that was amazing what else do we get the room i'm missing like a big section i think a lot of vegetables an eggplant uh dish a sweet potato dish a something you traditionally like eggplant we just i do love that you like it i love eggplant parm okay um i mean i think it's a big mush well if you're just boiling it yeah but if you are creating a yummy eggplant dish it's good i think that sounds delicious i can't remember last time i had it surrounded by a skin you can't even that's why i like it in my thai food yeah exactly yeah wow yeah you're if you're just cooking it not willy-nilly like an eggplant steak like yeah if you're just boiling it sounds like you're just boiling it i've never prepared eggplant i've just taken a bite of eggplant parmesan i'm like oh i love it let's mush with this ring around it that's hard to chew probably prefer chicken parm but well yeah that's my issue when i've been next to people that order the eggplant parm they're not vegetarian i'm like you they have chicken parm it's not like they don't have it i had it at little dom's on sunday eggplant parm over chicken parm i think i'd order both and eat yeah put the eggplant on top of the chicken maybe that would be eggplant parm to me is almost more lasagna ish than it is chicken parm okay all right because it's often stacked if it's done correctly speaking of leftovers so you had a girl's only birthday party on sunday really wasn't a birthday party it was like a last minute i was like i want to play mahjong today it's my birthday party and i'm like i want to play mahjong today and i'm like i want to play mahjong so i just kind of texted all the ladies i know and i was like does anyone want to come over for this and then you catered it with all time in that you got a bunch of takeout from all time yeah and so then kristen brought one of the dishes back to our house and then i open the fridge and i see oh is that an all-time box and then i go and it's that fucking rice with that insane sauce and eggs aaron it's so we have to figure out when we're going before you go out of town and there was just a little half of it didn't we just go yes well that's why we went oh okay so then i went yeah and i'm like oh my god i wonder if there's more at monica's house so i text you hey is there any more you didn't respond so then i just went over there because i had i was like rabbit now and jess had just finished it wasn't to be fair we didn't get into it wasn't him okay um he's like barely eating it's a little stressful for me but um uh it was a bunch of it was a big party yeah yeah yeah and i was like and most of the food was gone i mean kristen took an entire thing yeah i assumed for you uh well it was half gone when i dug into it all right um but then that got me a little crazy for all time so then aaron and i went and he had never been so good and we had the most romantic dinner on the sidewalk candle lit yeah and they do a steak for two for lovers really it is yeah discuss the steak for two because callie and i would always get the steak for two and we'd eat it all and everyone was surprised because it's a big old steak the steak is easy to take down with two people it's the sides that are impossible we did not accomplish no eating all the we probably left three pounds of potatoes yes and i mean i ate a lot of it yeah the cauliflower the peppers uh we had ordered stupidly a side i didn't even know that steak came with all that stuff so i'd ordered the shrooms the king temple or something shrooms i would love to do a double date with you and yeah and then we all in between our tables is a puddle of oil does that happen when you get it monica because we were outdoors so it didn't matter terribly much but it was just gushing fat off the side of it over the table and the whole sidewalk was stained where we were eating like i think they'd have to throw kitty litter on it absolutely i've never noticed that before someone dumped their oil out of their engine oh god um but it was delishy it's so good there it's so good love it i have a story okay i was with my friend sally we were driving to honor bar in beverly hills and we look over and do you know coco coco is a little robot the gorilla okay hold on i'm way behind is a robot that carries food a delivery system and it's like a box and pretty low to the ground on wheels that travels across the city and it's the cutest thing i know it has a little smiley face on the front now i do think normally they have a um flag so it's like you can see they started with flags when they came out seven years ago the flags are gone they've all been ripped off and broken well yeah because so we're at the stoplight yep that's coco oh that one has a flag they get themselves into a lot of trouble they get themselves into a lot of trouble they get themselves into a lot of trouble they're rascally i see them sometimes i can't tell if they're playing or they're really stuck they'll be going in a circle around the tree and i'm like is it playing it's uncomfortable um and also just said that if it's at a stoplight it asks people to press the button for it oh really i've never experienced that i would love to help i would carry it across you might have seen that on tiktok or something but anyway so we look over and there's a car accident a car accident coco and coco was under like kind of under and and and then they were trying to put they were so confused obviously and they're like trying to pull over but it's like stuck under by the way lots of damage to the car oh sure so then sally and i are screaming like we're like like we've seen a kid get yeah i'd rather see a kid get hurt sure we all know a dog a kid a grandmother no sally had the right i was i was like coco and she was like that's bad that's really bad but she was saying because the car like she was like oh my god that car is like what a psychopath she cared about the car no this is where i'm going where i actually then after was like oh my i can't believe i felt like real feelings about that sure against a mercedes yeah kin of my car sure sure cousin yes and it's like an kind of older couple and they're so confused and like the lady like opens the door to see and i and like i imagine being that lady and you you hit like you're in the car something's clearly horrible you've hit something yeah you're dragging now yeah and then you open it and you see it's coco and so first you're like relieved because i'm sure you're like i hit an animal or someone on a bike yes yeah so first you're relieved and then you're so pissed and then you're like oh my god i'm so pissed and then you're like oh my god i'm so pissed i mean imagine how pissed you'd be if you hit a robot that was crossing the street and it damaged your car and now you have to call what 9-1-1 and be like reporting an accident the police come coco's there actually okay really yeah they're sturdy wow i know then i thought about the people not receiving their pizza yeah the glass of wine that was inside yeah you can order some beer and cocoa and it's just bouncing through the sidewalk in my time so it was traumatic and then yesterday i was walking by um in venice there was like a bunch of cocos and they were all like in a line and we said it was for the service oh that makes sense now i'm inclined to think that coco was probably following the rules i don't think they can break rules so this woman yeah probably didn't look in the crosswalk it was a man driving to be fair but yes oh i thought why did i know because the woman was in the passenger seat she opened it to see and was like what the yeah so they were probably chatting and they missed that coco was in the crosswalk i know but i don't think i really think it's very hard to see when you don't have the flag so yes obviously they turned drive out into traffic or go on uh red lights on the crosswalk yeah i think it was they turned probably in front of coco was it a suv or a car monster truck yeah i'm wondering like tall yeah if you're in a big suv she said mercedes was it a g-wagon it it wasn't it was a i think it was a sedan that was like my car i blame the human i do too but aaron if you now have to pay for damage to your car like that is life-ruining if a robot pulls in front of you and is getting just dragging like the car's just getting crumpled yeah who owns coco exactly and then i thought this i was like okay now who whose fault is it and who should pay for what and now this human has to pay that's what's tricky is like we can say almost for sure it was the people driving's fault because again they don't jump out into traffic but coco can't give a statement oh i bet coco has on board video they probably do yeah so i bet when they call coco's parents and say you owe me so much money coco's parents yeah they're gonna go well let's review the tape and they're gonna go coco had the the the crosswalk was inviting coco to go into it it's your obligation to see if anything's in the crosswalk before you turn right on red and they're gonna say go fuck yourself they're gonna say we couldn't see her and then they're gonna have to call their insurance company and they're trying somebody's gonna pay for it and then this is horrible i hate to think of coco getting reprimanded for this no no if you're gonna walk out and even if you're walking out you still have to be careful coco is extremely careful this is why sometimes you see them stuck at a tree no they're not careful they're just like the other funny thing about learning disabilities just to tell people coco goes so fast sometimes have you ever seen coco haul ass yeah oh it's so funny have you seen it yeah because they're so um scared all the time yeah Go slow most of the time but when they get some wide open sidewalk they fucking they punch it yeah yeah that's why i think they're a little rascal they go slow when they're around people and stuff they have sensors obviously whatever i just i i couldn't believe my reaction i could not believe i think that's the right reaction no i'm trying not to we shouldn't have too many feelings around these robots it's getting people some girl died well she did she died talking to chat oh what yeah she did um she she did she had mental health issues yeah she was struggling and she was talking to chat and something or an ai just talking to an ai yeah and i didn't finish reading it okay but basically i don't think we need to have two i think we need to this is how i feel about animals okay it's the same thing where i'm like we still have to prioritize humans above it's hard and i'm gonna say humans animals i'm gonna give you guys this humans animals robots in that order but there are some exceptions like you have to okay a silverback of which there are very limited number versus one of the eight and a half billion people on the planet no if there's a button i have to hit that's a tough call doesn't matter what person it is i won't know who it is this is like um um that that interesting there was a great what was the old spooky show from the 60s and 70s twilight zone there's a twilight zone with this guy someone comes to his house basically says um for x amount of money you hit this button somebody on the planet who you've never met will die and then you know through the course of the episode he agrees what do they get money a ton of money okay he hits the button and then he says to the person what happens now and they go we're gonna die and then they go we're gonna die and then they go we're gonna die and we take it to someone on the planet that you've never met or whatever basically what you realize is someone you're next whoever hits the button now kills you pretty good twist i it's similar to that pressing that button i would never press that button over a silverback yeah i'm for humans i might be willing if i didn't have children i might sacrifice myself for okay you can sacrifice yourself all you want but killing for coco for coco no what am i what if i dove out of like i dove and pushed coco out of the way right before he got hit and i got hit by a car saving coco's life you'd be a hero in my eyes to give you a police military send off yeah i hope this city would have like a big presentation for me i miss her i mean and like i miss her i'm sorry that happened to her i wonder what happened to those it's funny so you think it's a her right yeah that one was they're different oh okay because i most often think it's a little boy oh i think of it as a her you do yeah yeah interesting yeah they have names they do yeah their names are printed on the side so you can see it's just fucking with that it's trying to oh it's so bad it's so bad i hate coco but i love her stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare what's the difference like you're fine with me loving group right like but monica what's the is there a huge difference between like here's why i love group i look at him and he's always in a good he's in the best mood and i know he has challenges he has a lot of challenges with the respiratory system i know yeah and i look at him i'm like come in despite all this i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god he's always got the sweetest smile on his face and i love him a lot i know but that's different if there was a gorilla or groot watch out i don't know what to do so it goes groot gorilla humans oh um though is connected to delta that's the real reason if you just saw a guru on the street you'd be like oh my god look at that cute stuffy right it's my grandson it's my grandson it's her child yeah so that's obviously also he's so cute like a coco is i know but let's say okay let's say you're driving and you're turning right on red no one's there right and all of a sudden you you squish over something and then you look and there's a groot on the on the ground that someone threw someone threw a group not not delta's group i think any group you know that's when they say like when you have a kid all children you know clearly not because you're willing to kill a human and a human adult no old adult an adult is someone's kid you're not anymore they're there's an old enough that their parent died whether your children are old they don't they don't qualify if i'm dead yeah no none of this is helpful okay so someone throws a stuffy yeah it gets caught and it somehow that stuffy has metal in it too and it's like ruining the car right no that sucks for the people driving you made it that cute but someone threw it so now i'm mad at whoever chucked whoever treated that way exactly okay i think if you if this happened to you you would be very upset that your car was hurt i hope they televised this court case your mom will be all over she will be she really will be it was wild to see it was wild when you were telling the story of seeing the car made me think of yesterday erin and i were recording mom's car and we're driving around and um again there's so much going on when we do mom's car um we're delivering food in this case we had three different orders we have two guests in the back seat there's a lot i'm driving there's cameras everywhere first episode yeah first episode we have things we got to say now and uh i spot a guy who's opening his door of his truck while he's driving and forget do you do you know how long we were with that guy like had you clocked it as soon as i did we were with that guy for like i didn't hear anything anyone said for like eight minutes all i was like when's he gonna open his door again we were behind this truck monica and the guy was opening his door all the time while he was driving i'm like what's going on is he gonna barrel roll out the side finally i said something like gang we got a guy what's opened his door and everything then we pulled up next to him at the traffic light and then i felt a little bad it seems our theory our current theory was his air conditioning wasn't working and his power windows were broken and it was so brutally hot yesterday so he had to be fanning the door while he drove yeah and he had what seemed to be his wife or girlfriend look like a girlfriend yeah um girlfriend definitely um how embarrassing for him i know we felt really bad it's my also my mom's birthday on a positive note happy birthday laura happy birthday so many birthdays yeah it's heavy it's a heavy heavy week i was just saying that this morning i know it kind of sucks we got carly you say your birthday's but i think my birthday is bad because everyone has it and then like not as special it's not like you're like saying happy birthday to everyone i got carly grandma yolas rest in peace then you then my mom then jess then there's like eight birthdays that i know of in the 10-day stretch it's impacted you know the only other one is that's as impacted as i'd say aaron's birthday five people in that window of july 1st to july 8th july's ryan hansen i know and you i'm forgetting so on uh um forgetting something but there's a lot aaron tyrell's son of shares a j2c oh he actually um i saw him recently uh came over my house he took care of the dogs for a couple days and he said uh it was right before the birthday and i was like happy birthday uh he goes you think it would be cool if i got a tattoo how is he 15 or 14 he's 16 16 what'd you say no tattoos are not good technically there's only two people in this club but you do what you want that's cute that he wants it um okay i have a question i'll ask both of you and then we need to do facts how often are you changing out your towel after a shower you know you shower use your towel how often are you then putting that in the laundry and getting a new one well once a week um that doesn't happen because of me okay that's fair um once a week ruthie does a whole gathering of floor man you know the whole thing if it were just you just me it i'm always i always think it's still good because you're clean you just cleaned yourself it's water it's like you got that the mold and mildew if you hang it in a place that dries quickly i i would definitely go five showers on a towel okay like a week and then the bad news is you know we were just talking about this yesterday i don't shower a ton because i i sauna and then i cold plunge and then i get in the hot tub and i'm like what are we doing i'm gonna go get more water on me you know and then i don't smell and i only wash my hair once a week because it's i have such dry hair yeah so because i would only wash it once every probably five or six showers that might be six months worth six months now i'm thinking i think mine is changed twice a week now that i think of it okay that's nice and my showers are a little more frequent yeah the nap i don't know yeah but they're like probably every other day um sometimes it's showering every day no and you know it's funny i was thinking about it this morning weirdly enough i don't mind when i'm in the shower but the thought of this shower i hate so i'm like fuck i have so much to do i don't want to go get wet and then put on new deodorant and then put my moisturizer on everyone feels this way everyone it's it's a time suck but do you think everyone feels that way i know a lot of people that love taking showers and baths and do it multiple times a couple times a day like those people clearly love show no i often shower twice a day and i do not like it it is a huge pain you're rushing you have to get because you're going to work and it's a it's a mess but you do it for the you're not doing it for the enjoyment of the shower the bath is different i like a bath i did two baths this weekend there you go at night yeah yeah as opposed as a relaxation you put the bubbles and you put the powders in candles and i can't i do a candle and i and the lights are dim and you listen to saxophone music yeah i love it but that's not for cleanliness i shower after that okay i don't think i'm clean i think i'm even more dirty because i'm in my stew you know and sweaty we can just back up for half a second and start with the fact that humans didn't shower for 300 000 years and then we didn't even have indoor plumbing until the 1900s so we're talking we're looking at that people have been showering for like 120 years so this notion that we have to shower every day is comical we don't have to brush our teeth either but well but we've added something that makes that necessary which is we didn't have refined sugar so now we have to brush our teeth or our teeth will fall out well the people's in back in the george washington they were getting dirtier they had they lived in a dirtier world than us by far what i'm saying they didn't brush their teeth and it was disgusting yeah i'm all about brushing your teeth i'm just saying the reason we have to have to brush our teeth is because we now eat sugar we were designed to not have to brush our teeth and we didn't brush our teeth for 300 000 years but now we eat a ton of sugar so now we have to but nothing has changed in our life that would require us to all of a sudden have need showers every single day our environment's only gotten cleaner and cleaner and cleaner we don't interact with dirt you know we walk on cement to a indoor house with the carpets that you wipe your feet on you know you we wear shoes and clothes so it's like we've gotten in an increasingly cleaner more and more and more so i'm just pointing out that for anyone who's like oh gross fine but also this is insane that we do what we do it's unnecessary i've never smelled you thank you yeah yeah if i smell even a hint of smell i'm bolting right to the shower you know i don't want to fuck with that and again i've told this too if i didn't have a bidet i would shower a lot well that's yeah that's but i clean my butthole with water every day so i don't again my butthole is really clean and then i'm worried about adding soap you don't want to add soap to that mix you know then we'll get into the whole thing about soap no i don't think i need to add soap to the mix to get my butthole clean okay yeah well great yeah finger well sure yeah that's what mother nature intended right it used to be in the old days your bath was you jumped in a lake and then you rubbed your butthole with your finger underwater and you rubbed your balls in your penis and that was your fucking that's how you yourself clean i'm glad i didn't live then yeah me too i prefer to live now um all right some facts for gal good dot she said good dot i think it's good dot and i've been saying good dough this whole time okay how tall is emma you said we said 5 10 you're like i think she might be six feet she's six feet one and a half inches she's almost six two she was wearing heels and she was we were looking eye to eye she is a tall one she is tall gal tall gal good oh ding ding ding um is ambient twice as powerful in women as men women process the drug much slower leading to blood concentration levels that are up to 50 percent higher female bodies clear zolpidem the active ingredient in ambient about 35 to 50 slower than male bodies higher levels of the medication can remain in a state drowsiness and higher risk of morning accidents and trips to 7-eleven yeah gotta be careful um reminder of where tom cruise's cake is from doan's bakery d-o-a-n in woodland hills california holiday cake speaking of where was persian that word sounds persian you didn't mention your cake last night it looks so good thank you it was from a few nights ago actually because i was celebrated a few times which was very kind but yes there was a cake from this place called chariot la and they they took my astrology they took my birthday my moon and sun and rising and they created a one-of-one cake mermaid and it was so good and it looked like a mermaid cake and it had a lot going on and at first i truthfully was like oh this is probably not going to taste very good there's so much going on yeah vanilla rose chiffon a yuzu curd fresh exactly i was a little congestive and aperitif yeah but it was so good it was so good shockingly so and um and and moist and i'm back to saying that i'm done putting that on the shelf okay yeah and um highly recommend chariot la if you want a yummy cake and and if you especially if you have someone who likes astrology you don't get a moist cake too often you don't it's hard to find they dry up on you yeah they really do if you want moisture go with eggplant it's a mush it's a wet wet mush there's too much covered in a skin okay is the goal is i mean what is the golden gate bridge in lisbon called um it's called the 25 day abril bridge which is april the 25th bridge okay i just did that really nice thank you i took a lot i took a lot of spanish although this is probably portuguese but the striking red suspension bridge across the tagus river tagus there it is there she is oh hello okay this does america have a garlic whopper no nope while countries like south korea and international regions have featured dedicated garlic infused whoppers and israel obviously according to gal the u.s menu has only seen garlic flavors appear as temporary or regional items such as a limited time garlic aioli pairing or recent themed items like grogu's garlic chicken fries rather than a standard garlic whopper we can't get that here sadly but it's okay because we get the chicken sandwich instead we would get that anyway yeah okay what is 80 000 shekels in u.s dollars 26 853 okay 26 853 who won miss university year gal was in it which was 2004 she was right miss australia jennifer hawkins yeah how expensive is a garlic whopper i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know how expensive is le maire lip balm 85 dollars yeah but best 85 she ever spent it really bought her a whole life a whole career yes now tens of millions of dollars she was on the forbes list several times highest paid actor now this movie the runner which isn't out yet which is why rob couldn't find the song the blondie song because if you type it in like that doesn't come up but i wonder if i say it will you know it or no you'd probably have to do i'd have to you won't sing it so i would have to right because i don't know them okay say the name dreaming yeah see i don't think i'm gonna know the title dreaming dreaming is free aaron knows it is that the song not the one oh um call me do you want to sing call me um those are the only two all right i'll just quickly tell you the song probably a deep cut won't be here no it's not at all it's one of their biggest songs but they're popular one way or another rapture yeah i bet it's rapture that sounds right oh maybe hard is a heart of glass yeah yeah oh this is popular yeah what a great song to jog to oh yeah 1978 and it still holds up i'm gonna hold up she's 80 i think she she's still sexy yeah and still performing yeah who is it and not falling asleep oh not falling asleep on stage i didn't name the person but i did tell our guests today that you had recently gone to a concert with a legend and that they were asleep a considerable amount of the performance and that you thought maybe they it was scary who was it it's the scariest concert i've ever been to oh no yeah um yeah it was like oh how old is he i think he's 93 oh wow wow yeah well then that track so everyone was saying around me i didn't look it up but i just it seemed that most people knew that the answer to that yeah well debbie harry's original name is angela trimble what the hell yeah well i don't like any of the music now yeah debbie harry's a better name for blondie okay well that sounds like that's all the facts yeah got them all well i looked up she did a good job explaining it okay so we don't need to do that all right well well well happy birthday laura i love you guys you