"Gagged Up" (w/ Hilary Duff)

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Do you want to know the secret to life? It's Depop. And by life, I mean affordable fashion. Depop is where you can buy, sell, and discover desirable, inexpensive secondhand fashion. Sell the stuff you no longer wear, with no selling fees by the way, and make some money. Then use that money to buy things you actually want to wear for way less. Discover new things, evolve your style, become mysteriously cooler without becoming mysteriously broke. Make money on Depop with no selling fees and find what you want for less. Stay. Every stay, no tracking or managing, just rewards that can be used like cash on future bookings. Which, by the way, already feels nicer than most rewards programs. Okay. Yeah. Members can also get up to 20% off bookings, so savings start right away. Does that mean no weird restrictions? And no blackout dates. Book what works when it works. It's actually really fitting of real travel. So the name is honest, you're saying. And the rewards are too. Exactly. Hotels.com. It's all in the name. Every friend group has that one person. Who puts their card down for brunch and sends the Venmo request. If that's you and your Venmo balance is popping. You need a Venmo debit mastercard so that you can spend your balance instantly. No transferring anything. No waiting around. So as soon as you get paid back for brunch, you can pay for those concert tickets you've been eyeing or put it toward your next night out. Plus, there's no monthly fee or minimum balance. Learn more about the Venmo debit card at Venmo.com forward slash card. Venmo balance account required to get the card and use a balance effective November 1st, 2026. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp Bank N.A. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. We're here. Lucky us. Or something. Or something. Well, the tour is called Lucky Me. Lucky everybody. Lucky world. If you got tickets, they went like that. Yeah. Sorry. I mean, well, I was very slow to the draw and I kind of, I'm sorry to myself. You've already upset our guests. No, I've already upset. We have to earn back the trust. We've got to earn back the trust. Well, how about this? I've been streaming the album nonstop. Yep. I love it. It's like you didn't know how much you missed. And then, of course, Spotify does the thing where it's like if you go on the top 10 streams, it's like we're getting these new bops and then suddenly you'll just, well, there's a suggestion, a lyrical suggestion. Let's go back, back to the beginning. At which point you have no choice but to do that. We've, it's been documented on this program. It has. That the lyric of back to when the earth, the sun, the stars all aligned. Kind of like today. Yeah. That's poetry. That's, the subways did not align for me. Yeah. Anybody know what I'm talking about? Can I get an amen? Did you have a subway problem today? Yes. Oh, you're asking. I thought you were asking, putting it to the room. No, you. Yeah, of course. But it's fine. Well, it's New York. You, I don't want, I don't really want our guests to have, to like really weigh in on this because it's like, it's, it's, I think it's a space that is beneath her. But to have the, the remix of Come Clean on at the club at like 4am, you're like, I've never known more. And you've never seen, no, I, I've dead ass never been happier in my life. Stone cold sober. It's 4am. I'm sober. Trust me. And I've never felt more joy. I never felt more joy just connecting about famed Los Angeles eatery, Casa Vega with our guest just now. And she might get me to do something called Bouda, Bouda, which I'm going to guess is spelled B-O-O-N-D-A. Nope. She's shaking her head. Okay. Well. All that and more is going to be revealed on this episode. This is truly, I mean, every, I know everyone that listens to this podcast has waited for this day. We certainly have. You've seen her everywhere lately because who wouldn't want to celebrate this moment like back in HD, which I was like, I was like seeing, she did a concert last night and her initials. I'm like, great. Yeah. No better two letters together. You're happy to see HD. Actually, MR is on my socks. Mr. Maggie Rogers sent me these socks. Oh, that's cute. And because we're the only people with MR, but we're not talking about MR today. We're talking about HD. We're talking about a legend in the culture, a paragon. We're so happy she's here. Everyone. Welcome. I'm feeling great about myself. Yeah. Prepare. Lock in. Thank you guys for that. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you. Spell check on Bouda. Oh, okay. It's a German word, I believe, or it's like a German. Maybe it was born in Germany. Okay. The concept of the workout, Bouda, B-U-N-D-A, with the two little dots on top of the W. Those two little dots are so important always. And I think you need to say it. Bouda. There you go. Okay. Well, it did live inside me. I think maybe I put too much sauce on Bouda. Bouda. Bouda. I liked it. Yeah. How was the show last night? I think it needs more. Yeah. Bouda. Bouda. The show was awesome. It was a cute radio scaled down kind of little fan experience. And it was great. I mean, I don't know. I'm going to come in hot with this question. Okay. Okay. So, lucky me, first tour since Dignity. Yeah. Your first tour as a parent. Yeah. What are you preemptively annoyed about logistically traveling with the family? I'm absolutely terrified, too. I'm going to tell you a quick story. I'm going to try not to make it too long. I was in rehearsals. And surprises are tough for me. Like, of course, I love a surprise. Are we talking like a present? So excited for a present. Astrologically, where do we live? I'm a Libra. Okay. Yes! I need to have understanding. Understood. Of everything. And we understand that. And then I can be really excited for the surprise. Okay. But like, I've got to process it first. Yeah. And so, my husband and my tour manager stopped rehearsals. And they were like, we have a surprise. You've got to come outside. I come outside. We're walking down the street. I see a giant tour bus. And I was like. Yeah. Yeah. Is this a surprise? And they're like, yes. Like, let's go check it out. Because this is going to be where we're living for eight weeks in the summer. And I was like. I walked inside. I was like, there's no kitchen. There's no. There's just like slots for beds. Four of us are going to be. Four kids. Sorry. Lots of other adults. Yes. But like, what? It was panic. All panic set in. So then. I relate to this completely as a Libra rising. Okay. How do you express that without being like. Thank you so much. This is so exciting. But also, where the hell is the kitchen? Okay. I had like a huge like fake smile plastered on my face. And I was just like. I love the slots. I'm looking for the storage. Like kids come with so much shit. Yeah. And also, there's like no pooping on the bus. I'm like little kids just whenever they have to. I know. You've got to poop on the bus. Well, you can't. It's a rule. It's a written rule. So I'm like, how many times are we going to be stopping throughout the night? It's all terrifying. What are the age ranges? Okay. Two to 13. Yeah. Come on, Wikipedia. Almost 14. Yeah. I have a 14-year-old son this month. Whoa. And a five-year-old this month. And then a seven and a two. It's going to be fun. We're going to figure it out. That thing's going to be trashed. Yeah. Crumbs everywhere. Literally crumbs everywhere. Guns and roses have nothing on your family. Exactly. That's right. Trashing to our bus. Yeah. I loved the video that you did with your son. Oh my gosh. Me too. That was so good. That was so good. He's so cute. I mean. When he was punking my jersey, I thought he was going to be like, that's cool. And he was like, that's not it. That is not it. I was like, rude. Rude. So rude. When the camera's in their face, they want to embarrass the parents. I think that's what it is. I think that's the kid logic. Same. All I want to do is embarrass him and watch him get shy and turn red. Well, you kind of got there. You were like, you like my music. I was like, mm-hmm. Because it's mommy and daddy's music. Yeah. Not his dad, but he likes Matt's music too. He's really into a hip hop, you know. Okay. Right now, so. I was thinking back to when we were like, because obviously like walk down memory lane, it was like you and then all this like hardcore like rap and R&B were the charts. Yeah. It was like, that was like what was coexisting on that at the time. Okay. Who? Remind me who. It was like Ja Rule. This was like. Love Ja Rule. No, no. This was back in the day. Ja Rule. Ja Rule Radio is. Amazing. On Spotify. I gotta just ride that out. It's a real happy like. Yeah. Flopping through this day kind of vibe. Of course. And Ja Rule was on Mad TV as a guest once. Okay. And she was legitimately great. He was? Yes. Anyway. But it was. Okay. So this is the time. I'm like, was he in front of me on the charts or below me on the charts? We're not even talking about that. It was always about Ja Rule and Hilary Duff. You know what I mean? It was like jockeying for position. I remember. I don't remember what album it was. Maybe, not "Dignity," I don't know, "Mary J. Blige." was like ahead of me. And then the next week I got ahead of her. And I remember it being like, yes. But also like, love Mary J. - It's like, it's a thing of like, you have so much respect. You're like, God, I'm so happy to do well on the charts, but Mary J. - It's like, that's real love. That's like, that's Mary J. Blige. But I feel like, I feel like now the concept of charts to me, you're on top of it. You're in like a, you keep track of it. I don't really care, but of course I'm not on the other side of it where I'm like, you have people from the label or whoever. - Yeah, what is the thing with charts now? Is it like of paramount importance to labels and is it important to you? Like, how do you feel about the charting of it all? - I think if I said I didn't care, it would be a lie. - Yeah. - But I have never, that's never been, even like, like radio singles. I never had like a ton of, of love there. So mine was always like fan connection and like touring. So the fans showed up for me, I toured a whole bunch and like that, that business like got very massive for me quickly. I, I do care. You want your work to be like observed and, but I don't think it's, it's that important. And I think a lot of things come into play, you know? Like every, like every industry now, it's a thing, but the, the labels are excited when, you know, it's doing well, it's, it's hard, it's a hard industry. So any kind of like accolade or exciting number that you land on is great for morale. - Of course. Well, okay. The thing that we can liken it to is like this, this little show breaks into like the top 80 every now and then. - 50. - 50. - We can get up there. - So, so maybe, so maybe just to like, to make this about me for a second, like I, I think it's, I'm with you. It's like, it's nice. I would be lying if I was, if I was saying it didn't matter. - Yeah. - But the, the, like the connection among the listenership and the fans in the community is, is I would take that over. - 100%. - Placement every day. - I agree with that. - You know? - I agree with that because that stuff comes and goes and you see it for a week, you know? And it's just, it can be a great splash. But other than that, like the meat is like the connection and the people that are showing up and that's the reason why you do it, right? You're doing it because you love it and. - Yeah. Have you remained connected to people that you like recognize from like way back that have, that were fans? And then like now you're like, I wonder if you do any shows now when you're like, oh my God, wait, hold on a second. - Yeah. - Like. - I definitely do. - There's those people. - Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, you're still here. Can't believe we're still here. - It's profound. - It is. - It's beautiful. - It is. And the amount of people that are showing up to the shows, with like literal old Polaroids from my meet and greet used to be, you get a Polaroid picture and you say hi and you leave. So they have the Polaroid picture. - Yeah. - And it's really sweet. - Oh, that's the best. - Yeah. - And also for them, I mean for everyone, I feel like on this album, you're dealing with like, it's like you turn around and you're like, oh my God. Yeah, we are talking about our boyfriend who's now dating someone that looks like 21, 22 years old. It's like, we actually did grow up and now have these things in common too. I just love songs that just let your ex know you have their number. - Yeah, I have the receipts. - Yeah, like I actually know that you're out there like doing the cliche stuff. - Yeah, yeah. And why? Are you doing okay? Like clearly from the outside where you're not doing, you're not doing great. - Yeah. Do you ever hear-- - It's like topical. You're like, this is topical. - Yeah. "My Kink is Karma" by Chapel Roan. - Obsessed. - Obsessed. - Obsessed. - Catharsis. - My kids love it. And I am like. - Can we share this? - They're sick. Yes, I don't, you know, they don't really like read too much into lyrics, but they say all the words. Like, that happened. - So then as a parent, you're like listening to this. You're listening to your kids talk about like these really deep-- - Concepts. - Dark concepts. Like, it's nice to like that they're just detached from it, though. - Yeah. Maymay's favorite song on my record, the one that she always requests, is "Holiday Party." - Oh, I love that. - Which starts out with like, in my head, you live another life where you fuck all my friends. - Yeah, exactly. - And like, it's very, just like a very heady, can I say that? - Of course, yes. - A very heady song about like anxiety and you making up what you know must be true, even though it's not. - Yeah. - Anyway, she just blows through the lyric. And I'm like, you know, we're in the arts. - We're in the arts. - So there's a time and a place. - Is that how you justify it? - Yeah, what am I gonna do? Also, we have a teenager in the house. We have a big spread of kids. I always joke that like, none of the moms at school will want their kid to be friends with Townes, the baby, because she's the fourth child, she's gonna know all the things. - Of course. - The fastest, the earliest. - Yeah. - You know, she's gonna be the one spreading the news on the playground. - She's gonna lead the charge. - Yeah. - But someone has to lead the charge. - They do. - Among that age group. - They do, but I feel like if it was my first child, and I, like, Luca had like all the kid glove handling, that I would be like, stay away from that child that has all the siblings and knows all the things. - Townes has the receipts. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So, but yeah, we handle lyrics like that because we try to have a lot of conversations in our house and just skirt around, you know, some of the ones that they're not ready for yet, but art is art and, you know, we're constantly listening to music and writing and doing this thing, so they've gotta be exposed to it. - Of course. - Yeah, I think. - I think some of the serious ones on the record, which was like, giving head in the back of the bar or whatever, people came for me so hard and they were like, do you do that in front of your children? I was like, mm-mm. - This, no. - Definitely not. - Yeah, yeah, bring 'em in. - That's a parasocial thing, though, I think. I really do, and I feel like you must experience that to such a degree because, like, when someone feels like they know you, they get a little bit more, like, their guard goes up about themselves about something like that because we don't contextualize for any of these pop girls in terms of lyrics like that, but I feel like when someone, a fan-- - You think 'cause they don't have kids? - Maybe. - Maybe. - I think a lot of projection happens when you've grown up with the person. - Yes. - You know what I mean? - Yes. - You must feel that way. - For sure, yeah. There's parts of my, I mean, I've said this before, but there's parts of my identity to people that haven't grown because the character hasn't grown. - 100%. - You know? - Parts of your identity that haven't grown. - Yeah, like, in people's minds. - In people's minds. - Yes, absolutely. - Like, oh, she's that from Cinderella's story or Lizzie or whatever, you know? And that character never grows up, so, like, I can't. - Right. - You know? - That is, it's an interesting thing. Like, I remember, like, a few years ago, like, when the Lizzie McGuire reboot was happening, I was so on your side when you were like, we have to have this person be an adult woman. - Yeah, yeah. - Like, what do we think? - I know, well, yeah, I mean, just, it was the only thing that made sense to me, was like, she's gotta be doing 30-year-old things. - Yeah. - 14, yeah, 100%. - Also, there's been an, this press tour, there's been an absence of love for Younger, and I just wanna say shame on everyone, because that was a great American television series. - Did you happen to see the clip of, on my Instagram? You weren't watching my stories this morning? You're kidding. - I was streaming the album this morning, as I have been. - I appreciate that. I appreciate that. We'll take all the streams we can get, babe. - She cares. - My, one of my best year's friends in life, I made on that show. It's Molly Bernard, she's the redhead, Lauren. She was at my show last night, absolutely going off. And some fan caught it on camera, and it's so cute. - The best. - She's like, - Full circle, mom. - She's like, my friend's a pop star. - I know. 'Cause she hadn't been able to see that. - No. - That's really special. - No, she's only seen me in my mother bearing, my child bearing years, and very different than that part of my past. - It was, it's so back, though. Like, I mean, we, when you came in, the first thing we gushed to you was how great you were on The Tonight Show. And you said you had fun doing it. - I did. I'm having a lot of fun. I mean, the amount of work is crazy. - Of course. - Yeah. - And there are days where you're like, "How do I get through this?" - Of course. - And now you're gonna go do hot ones. - I know, which I'm so excited about, but I'm terrified. And then, the kicker of it all is I'm getting on a plane after. - Oh. So, wow, this is-- - I think that's actually-- - 'Cause you can poop on the plane, not like a bus. - But I don't want to. - Yeah, no. - You're gonna have to. - I do. - There comes a point where everyone gets to a certain point where you're like, "Okay, all my life, "I've not pooped on the plane. "Today's the day." - Today's the day after hot ones. - And then you meet yourself in that moment, and then you move forward. - I will keep you posted on what happens when we take our boondah class together. - Let me know what boondah. - I will. - See, the thing about taking a workout class together, though, is that is the Grady Quad. And now, a quick break from our sponsor, Vital Proteins. - It is vital. Collagen peptides is a wellness supplement that supports healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints. - When we hit 30, our body's collagen production starts to drop, and that's when Vital Proteins steps in. - Their iconic blue tub is everywhere. People love Vital Proteins, in part because it's so easy. - Just mix it into your coffee, tea, or smoothie, and you're good to go. - Right now, you can get 20% off your next order by going to vitalproteins.com, and using promo code LASCULTURISTAS20 at checkout. - Huge thanks again to our sponsor, Vital Proteins. have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. This ad is sponsored by Veve Healthcare. Time for some prep wisdom. But first, some common sense, people. Everyone is different. Everyone. Yes, even you. Yes, even your situationship. Especially your situationship. And just like people, injectable prep options? Not all the same. That's why you need to talk to your doctor and know what to ask. So here's some prep wisdom. Did you know there's more to consider about long-acting injectable prep options than how often you get it? Also, why you want to take it matters. Your lifestyle matters. Your routine. Your chaos level. Your, I might forget my own birthday energy. All of it counts. Basically, talk to your doctor. Have the conversation. Ask the questions. Be a little nosy about your own health. It's allowed. Encouraged, even. Okay, did you write all that down? No? Don't worry. Just head to GetPrepWisdom.com to learn what to ask your doctor. That's GetPrepWisdom.com. You probably think dressing well takes lots of money. Or lots of time spent digging through thrift stores. Well, not to be rude, but you're wrong. So dead wrong. And honestly, we're happy for you. Because now we get to tell you about Depop. You can find the fashion you love for less on Depop. And it doesn't matter what you're into. Leopard print? They've got it. Not into leopard print? First of all, why? But fine. They've got that too. Not leopard print. Basically, whatever your particular fashion situation is, Depop has entered the chat. We're talking over 600,000 daily listings, including celebrity and stylish shop drops. That's a lot of listings. And somehow, it gets better. You can sell the stuff you no longer wear and make money. Then use that money to buy things you do want to wear. It's a circle. Like the circle of life, but for fashion. And since fashion is life for a lot of people, same-sies. Depop. Fashion. If it made sense. Make money on Depop with no selling fees and find what you want for a less. Depop. Love you. Hey, Bowen, point of order. It feels like nothing is what it says it is anymore. Point of answer? It's because everything has a catch. Hey, or it turns out to be something else entirely. Like a total catfish situation. Exactly, Bow. Except for Hotels.com. Yeah, that one's pretty literal. Because it's Hotels.com. It's in the domain. You go there, you book hotels, hundreds of thousands of them. And hold up, that's it? That's it. And when stays are booked as a member, rewards are earned every time. Every stay? Every stay. No tracking or managing. Just rewards that can be used like cash on future bookings. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. Hotels.com. Okay, we've been talking about QB Mail for a minute now, Bow, and wow, the feedback we're getting. I mean, so many of y'all love this stuff. You're stopping us in the street going, I love QB. And if you're thinking, wait, what is QB? Uh, do you not have the internet? It's the OG Japanese mayonnaise. The one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. Once you know it, you start seeing it everywhere. People ask what makes it different from basic mayo. Well, the answer? Egg yolks. QB is made with egg yolks only, giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything. Burgers, fries, sandwiches, chicken, noodles. Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. People who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, QB it. So if you haven't tried QB yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand. QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. We got dinner with someone last night who, um, uh, was waiting in line at the bathroom at some event and then. I hate waiting in line. No, no, no, no, no. The worst. She goes in and there's like, the seat is like dappled and stuff. And then she goes. Pee-pee? Pee-pee? Yeah, just a little bit of that. And then she was like, in her mind she was like, that wasn't her. It was the person before and she like everybody else beforehand. Just squatted. Just hovered and squatted. And like. I have this weird thing that. People follow me to the bathroom my entire life. Fuck, yeah. I would imagine. I got eyes on Hillary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I would, even if it wasn't mine, clean it. Because I don't want people thinking it was me. I do the same thing. Tons of toilet paper around me. I'm cleaning, cleaning, cleaning. No, 100%. It's spotless when I leave. And then sometimes. Spotless when? Yeah. That's correct. I feel the same way. I will even wipe down the countertop sometimes. Oh, you're an angel. If it's not like a big, big thing. And then the other thing is. What if it was an unruly flusher that sprayed the seat? Oh, forget it. Sometimes I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. If I can't see the color, I'm like, well, it was the flusher. It was the water. Yeah. Tonight Show is phenomenal. And you were saying earlier, like, unlike other things, because we relate to this, it's like, oh, that was actually fun. Yeah. And you're saying you're having fun. Yeah. Are you able to identify, like, the different thing this time? Like, this go-around. Like, what is making it fun? Okay. One, I have a dream team sent from God. I'm, like, loving everyone that's around me right now. And that feels really good. Good. Not that it's been, like, bad before. But just, this is, like, I'm having fun. We hang. We hang. Like, we try to, you know, pepper in fun, normal things that aren't just constantly, like, work and fluff. I'm so tired of glam, and I love my glam. Yeah, I get it. But getting makeup and hair done right now, I'm just like. I know. Yeah. You dissociate. And complaining about that sounds so lame. No, no, no, no, no. Because I know friends that would be like, I would love to have my glam done every day. But there's something about being stuck in the chair and unable to do anything during that time that you're just, like, feel really crappy. Especially as a parent. If I'm sitting in my house and I want to be around so my kids feel like I'm around that day, and I'm getting glammed, I feel like it's so tragic. I feel like they must. I'm desperate for them to not look back and be like, Mommy got glammed all the time. My memories of my mother where she was upstairs and glam. Yes, yeah. Like, no. That haunts me a little bit. Never. Wait, can we bounce to. Can we bounce back to Fallon for a second? Yes. I had this crazy. crazy, like, leg moment. I love the leg. But let's zoom in on a picture from the leg at some point. You guys, I have a sock mark. Stop! No one's clocking it. If that doesn't sum up me trying to exist as a pop star in Hollywood is, like, my sock mark that. First of all, the sock mark, no one was ever going to notice it because you know it was on point? Your hair-ography. Hair-ography on 10 at the Tonight Show. Okay, that happened fast. The wet look? Light, light. And it happened. It really, like, the hair landed. And then, of course, we got the classic iconic, we're on all fours and we give. Perfect. That was really well done. Thank you, thank you. Can I ask, you walking around in a house that's falling apart while it's raining, is that a callback? It was a slight callback. We grabbed a moment. Love. A little nod to the past. That house was fucked up and falling apart. I was like, girl, get out. Get out of there. The director had his crew, by the way, we filmed that right before Christmas, so there was, like, not that many people around who wanted to work. And he got this, like, skeleton crew together and they built that house, just like a four-wall house, somewhere in, like, Pomona amongst, like, mustard greens. And the house actually, like, fell apart. It was really cool. Like, on purpose. It was, like, gagged, like, rigged like that. I was like, whoa, this still happens. People spend this money sometimes. I love that it was gagged like that. That is a new expression you just created. Gagged like that. The house was all gagged up. Gagged up. Maybe a title of app. Gagged up. Wait, also Can we trademark it? Yes. I wanted to ask one of my favorite parts of the whole album is your Blink sample. Yes. That was an inspired choice. I want to know how this came. Yeah, okay. Well, Blink is when I, like, close my eyes and I think about getting my driver's license and, like, my first taste of freedom, Blink was on the radio. You're feeling this. Yeah, yeah, feeling this. Yeah. So, it's a real nostalgic wink. And, um, and then, actually, Matt had the idea to sample that song. And I was like, 100% yes. How do we do that? How do we do we just pay them? Do they have to approve it? Can they say no after I've, like, fallen in love with this song and we've written this beautiful, like, love song to my best friend? Yeah, of course. And he's like, we just give them all the publishing. Like, okay, great. Oh, okay. They can just have it. They just have it. And it was, like, worth it enough to me to have on the record because I'm, I live for that song. Yeah. It does something to me. And they're all so sweet. Have you ever, like, connected with, like, Mark Hopp? They're so nice. I run into Mark at Sushi of the Valley. Of course. Often. I feel like I'm driving off the road constantly on Ventura because I like to redesign what I would put how I would design this strip of the valley. Yeah. I'm like, we could use this there. That should be a private club. That should be, like, that motel that's off of Coldwater and, like, Ventura. Yeah. I'm like, can't we make this, like, a cool dinner club and have, like, I just like to redesign everything. You really should be mayor. Yeah. And I'm like, how has this survived here for so long? Get this one out of here. I have these questions. And then the good stuff leaves us like Oil Can Harry's. Oil Can Harry's was such a vibe. It was the definition - Don't try to bring your drink the dance floor the people that go there every night are like no no right get your drink off the dance floor okay so you were up in oil can harry's yes yes sis i was what what were your what were your years of of of this och 10 years ago like 10 years ago yeah okay that was the peak that was like i feel like i how about when you walk into oil can harry's and then it's like massive you're like what i know this is hiding in here i've had some of my best like shouldn't have made out with that person make outs there yeah and now i never will again yeah see you need these spaces you should open this up in the value on that strip new oil can harry like hillary presents oil can harry's 2.0 like that's that's i can see it all gagged up ventures gagged up that's my llc or whatever that's up wait i have a question about tonight so just to go back to this okay okay this is my question okay because you're changing the lyrics because it's television from um oh yeah you know giving head kissing your neck yes did you giggle at that i didn't giggle i was like oh that's a great tasteful like alt but i am always terrified as the songwriter singer person while there's a camera in my face i'm gonna sing the like the the the uncensored lyric can i tell you what helped me yes so i did this every time i uh-huh great and it helped me that's not something i like typically do mnemonic queen um when i'm performing that song because i'm not singing that lyric so i like did like you indicated yes i indicated yeah and then with gave myself a mental note did you still say touching myself i did because i was like the amount of jerk-off jokes that like comedians have probably had in your show like come on no you're gonna let me do it see when you when you fight for it they just they just want to see you fight and then and then once you do it they're like all right i just want to know i'm scrappy yeah um but you're you're not like i i would be terrified we're so funny of course when we were trying to figure out what the alt was for giving you head we were like kissing your friend yeah i was like that changes the whole of course the concept of the song making your bed it is funny when you kids bopify everything and it becomes like kids bopify that's really what it is kids bopify the album i have i have i've had to do all the alts yeah but kids bopify is like a level below that or beyond that where it's like um you got it's about sleepovers and snacks and you know sleepovers anymore bowen it's a sleep under no one lets their kids sleep over at anyone's house anymore is that true is this real i was gonna say like i don't know because i will say what has changed and let me know if you think this is true well everything well everything yes but halloween oh like your kid you can't just dive into your candy no i feel like what it is is it's like but i will say our friend jared lives um in studio city so it is actually really cute over there because it's like the mecca for halloween and like trick-or-treating but it just felt like for a few years there i don't know if it's because people were a little bit looking at each other sideways a little bit because of our you know you know political and social reality but it felt like trick-or-treating took a dive like kids were not like hit in the neighborhood like they used to i used to run with my little sack like going by myself yeah it's a different time but our parents have like always said it's a different time now and now we're saying it and it's just like i think something happens but it is like it's i would never send my kids out trick or well luca goes out with his friends now and i don't know how much like trick-or-treating they're doing they're just hanging out yeah they're just hitting the town yeah but like we can track him on his phone so that's right you know but like the the girls like we're trick-or-treating with them and you know we do that really lame thing where basically we like take their candy away the next day yeah and do what with it they they call it a eat it no no they they call it a switch witch or switch witch a switch witch google that for me where you the kids get to have their fun with the candy yeah the night and they get to like go ham and we let them we're not a household that's like restrictive yeah so but but if they put their halloween candy bucket like outside the like witch comes and like leaves them you sure a stuffy or a toy or whatever and takes like the candy there's a there's a value trade yeah and i we have a lot of treats throughout the week and i realize that treats are just like you know it's fun yeah but i rather it be an experience that we're going out to like get a treat and like do it with people that we have fun with yeah then just like dipping into a bag of candy for the next month because that that's like stoner culture we're not gonna we're not we're not doing all that in the family we're not doing all that doing all that um i think it's time to ask the question we have to ask the question the question the question this is the central question of lost coach this is the big one hillary duff what was the culture that made you say culture was for you i have given this question so much thought i knew it and i was like what angle do i approach but because there are so many there are so many and we're willing to hear all angles yes oh i have one prepared follow your heart i am gonna say the spice girls thank god for you you've done it has someone else said the spice girls not in in the history of the show i feel like probably but not today so of course i wanted to be baby spice but the spice girls for me was my first concert and the first time i saw women and all their different vibes and like celebrating each other yeah but like their expressions like sporty posh this that i was like oh my god and you can be all of them it just depends on the day how you wake up feeling yeah you could feel like one of the spice girls and i was like limited to and then we started coming out to california and like would hit melrose and then i could basically like imitate all of their wardrobe yeah and there was a store in santa monica called wild pear and i could my mom wouldn't let me buy anything and i was like oh my god i'm gonna go to the store and i'm gonna of the really like high slutty shoes because i was of course nine you were not yet but i would try it was like almost like pay less how they have like boxes of shoes out yeah but they were high heels platforms and i could like strap them on and like go for a walk and right like i'm a spice girl right now because that was such a huge part of the spice girls thing was the platform shoe and the platform sneaker so like i could get that on melrose and my mom let me have them and it was so fun it was like hair makeup all the inspiration you needed was like within the spice girls yeah so then spice world happened and then spice world happened and this is this is well documented as well yeah but like if baby is number one who who who is the the more the most frequent sort of person that you would identify with in other moments because you're you're waking up one day like most of the time you're a baby yeah do you feel like you have i feel like you're also do you guys remember the lollipops yes trumpa chupa what are those the chupa chups chupa chubs and they were spice girls yes i would dig and dig and dig for the baby spice ones okay i think the other one would be posh posh for me was a later like a slow burn yeah yeah yeah agree now 100 everything right yes but back then the two parts of my personality was baby and sporty yeah posh was advanced humor yeah go with me here okay so like when spice world happened i had never really been checking for posh because for me it's like i'm never gonna like gravitate towards an energy that's like removed and aloof yeah especially at that time i was like i'm excited i want to be a part of things and look at the rest of these girls are really going for it but then obsessed with this but then watching the movie okay i think my one of my answers to this question is the scene where they're like doing like an obstacle course in the movie and it just cuts to it it's just like showing them go over the obstacle course and then you just see posh in heels walking along the side like i'm not playing this game and then all pasha's line deliveries in the movie like when they fall in the water and she's like this stress is dry clean only melanie i was just like there's something about her prioritizing her glamour yeah and being so like mean to the rest of them but that's still being their sister that i am like deeply envious of the energy of that like this you can't get me to care i am unbothered before we knew that word that was posh spice i'm adding some of that to my personality right now yeah no download it yeah it's time but i think you you also taught people to be unbothered with so yesterday oh my god thank you i think that's the original unbothered anthem oh my god really you haven't heard this before no haven't you heard that i'm gonna be okay you guys once i talked to this psychic on the phone and she doesn't know who you are yes when you call and eventually she figured it out and she was like are you hillary duff how did she figure it out despite her psychic ability shouldn't she have known some of these people how did she say how did she andrew go for it okay okay she figured it out because oh my god this is so i need to like call angel and make sure she's cool with me sharing this i'm friends with aaron carter's sister angel we go our kids go to the same school she's a lovely literal angel of a person we're very close we talk about erin often um so i call this psychic and i like to dabble yeah i dabble as well two times a year i get a little wild hair like a little bit like on the i've no i dabble you dabble yeah horoscope yeah okay palm reader cards whatever i like i'll do any of it because it's fun yeah give me anything that can validate yeah like the path i'm on uh-huh choices i'm making give you a framework yeah give me a little give me a little support anything you can i'm not living i'm not living by it like firmly i'm just like let's have fun with this okay cool yeah we're with you so i call her she's so hard to get a hold of this woman okay i track her down for three weeks she doesn't let you pay she's like this is not my job this has been a curse for me my whole life because she has um the gift her family other people in her family have the gift i guess when she was in school she'd look at the teacher and be like you and your husband are going to get a divorce oh my god and then she's like and she's in trouble right but she's like i saw this happening whatever like i can't imagine and then i think people with that kind of gift maybe have to get it off i feel like it's like a burden to them unless they expel it yeah so she i get on the phone with her and she's like oh she's like you have like such bright energy i'm so excited to talk to you today and i was like oh thank you that's so nice how do we start i don't know should i just start asking you questions whatever she's like well people are going to start showing up for you and there's someone here aaron a two a's aaron and you must have been like oh no i my heart i was like oh my god and she's like i was like is it aaron carter and she's like sure is what the hell is he doing here wow oh my god and i was like well that's my childhood boyfriend and you know i kind of that would make sense to me yeah and she's like are you hillary duff like cut to our lighter topics and she was like so yesterday help me through my breakup and i will never not love you it's like oh my god thank you so much anyway yeah a really wild experience it was a really wild experience it was a really wild experience it was a really wild experience but no i didn't know the lore behind so yesterday being what'd you call it the unbothered anthem yeah it makes sense yes absolutely 100 it was at least not today not today i feel like here's the thing the thing about you like in the way that like the place that you held in culture and i hope that you take this as a compliment it's like there were so many times where because everyone looked up to you so much you were like hey this is important to care about like i was thinking on the way up here it was 2008 when your commercial for um knock it off don't say don't say gay came out and i remembered so we graduated high school in 2008 and i came back from school from nyu one time and there was like one of my one of my friends older brothers was always dogging me i was in the closet and he was always like the one that was making comments and stuff i remember that commercial had come out and like there was like a shift in the conversation that guy i know about that guy i hope he gets a real itchy disease so he did extremely achieve i haven't checked i think i hope he's itching wherever he is he certainly is now itching wherever he is but there was there was a moment where my and my one friend had never stuck up for me when these things happened usually it was like that thing the brother that was your friend never stuck up for you to his brother it was my girlfriend it was like my like like one of my like girlfriends not i didn't have a girlfriend okay but like female friend and it was her older brother that was saying all this stuff all the time and i remember she was like i was in the other room and she for the first time ever was like what do you care if he's gay like what do you get what what does it matter like and no one wants you no one was ever saying anything like that so there was like a turning point not to say that you were single-handedly because the reason why but like i think that like yeah back then it was like the word was even no one was saying yeah this is not cool to say right everyone was saying it's cool to say it like i remember when we were in middle school in high school like eminem was like the essentially the biggest pop star in the world like saying these types of things on the radio like it was popular to be homophobic and then that turn i also remember a time when i was watching lizzie mcguire in my kitchen and it was the episode where because it was just on tv no it was on tv all the time can you remember that time yes like we're tuning in because it's going to be on tv right now yep and if you miss it you miss it if you miss it you miss it and you had to you had to tune in but i remember it was the episode where miranda was dealing with stuff with eating yes and my dad was watching over my shoulder and he was just like what is this show he's like i love this show he's like he was a pe teacher he's like i want to show this to my health class like there was like a lot of messages and what you did of philly because we all respected you you were our age but we respected you and when you said things that like held meaning we listened that's so nice thank you for saying that honestly i hear it a lot and sometimes you know when you hear compliments over and over again you're like oh yeah thank you but like i receive what you're saying well this is different than like your hair was incredible on the tonight show this is that that holds value but this is like it's you're meaningful to our generation i think when you like it's nice to always like have the compliment or something like this meant so much to me but when you get to have some framework and like see the yeah the picture of you and your friend and this guy giving you the older brother giving you a hard time you're like oh i see how that yeah impacted you in a like nice way and made you not feel bad or whatever so that it stayed with you um i'm starting to try to instead of try to deflect from compliments say yeah thank you i've received that yeah i i have i have that struggle too it's it's a libra thing maybe i don't know because we have to balance it out with something i'm trying i'm over identifying with you as a libra rising rising but it's well isn't that how you see yourself rising yes well chenny nicholas astrologer um uh does your reading based on your rising and not your son so so so my reading every day is libra rising but it's i think it's that it's like oh i have to you're giving me something positive i have to counterweight that right um i love my favorite part of the psa though besides the message of it is that you still end it with i love those jeans though like cute jeans though like it's still complimentary you're still showing love to this girl yeah like like that skirt is a top but you but those jeans are good that was like the young version of me i don't think i need to like round out with a compliment anymore if someone's being a dick good we're done here um can i share my quickly i'll just share my first exposure to lizzie mcguire which was all it has to do with sleepovers incidentally okay it was fifth grade heavily still in the closet with all these boys i'm feeling something i'm like wait a minute what's going on but this was it would be on tv but it was also my first experience with on demand we're like it's like one in the morning we're all in this danny wetmore's basement and all these boys are like we have to watch the hottest girl we're watching lizzie mcguire she's the hottest prettiest this girl hillary duff oh my god she's so hot so all these nine-year-olds being like and so then we're putting we're putting and then and then on this on their giant home theater screen they put on lizzie mcguire 2 a.m video on demand this guy's 2 a.m 2 a.m whatever time it is lizzie mcguire and i'm wild a wild bat yeah the pay-per-view they had no older brothers then they're probably earnestly watching it too we were earnestly watching and like laughing being like oh my god she's so good but it was my it was like it was like a first like closet moment for me where i was like but it was safe like i don't feel like she's hot like the rest of them no no i was like she's beautiful but i thought but i'm appreciating that she's beautiful but i thought but i'm appreciating her in a different way than these boys are i'm not like but like all the boys all the boys crushes on crushes on you of course it's on you and so we all had you in common the sound effect for the straight male can you do it one more time but like i was but then i went i'm not i'm not thinking the same thing these boys are when i look at this pretty girl i'm thinking oh i want to be friends with her we want we need to go shopping together we're doing but i just know in 20 years we're all going to do bunda i just know we're heading to bunda oh anyway so that's that's my that's my fun one yeah you know i really like that one yeah yeah wait for for curiosity's sake what are your other avenues like in terms of the in terms of the culture that made you say culture was for you because you said you had so many you talked about olsen twins on oh yeah the olsen twins were a big brother for sale for only 50 cents only 50 cents but just that that entire series i'm like they were so adorable so adorable brother first sale with their big eyes like you were just like i want to be you they had it they but that was that was you're invited well i got my first pair of pants from the row when did this happen this happened about four months ago wow my stylist was like and these are from the row and i was like well like i've made it well there is a there is a moment when you get something from the row when you're like should i well you're gonna have it for life they are life pieces because pieces they're sturdy you know they're wet they're sturdy oh yeah sturdy yeah i thought you said dirty i was like yeah yeah excuse your mouth in the good way excuse your mouth excuse your mouth what were my other options oh yeah greece greece was a big one for me yeah um do you ever play sandy would i or did i or did you or have you or would i haven't ever played sandy would that would be a fun thing to do um the her and the spandex oh yeah take me away i was like oh my god this i want to put high heels on and like strut around and it's about the shoes it's about and then michelle pfeiffer did grease too which was arguably people have said this very good yeah I'm not gonna say better we're not gonna argue a lot but people have sat in this chair and been like Grease 2 is better and they'll stand 10-10 I think I prefer watching it more I'm not sure I can say better but I enjoy watching it more her Michelle Pfeiffer's so hot I can't deal there's also like a theme here in like basically like I think like women like embodying something bigger than not not something larger than life something in your face yeah something some yeah turning point in the woman's existence right coming into her own you mean for me the theme for me I mean I'm looking at I'm seeing threads yes yeah okay and the other one which also falls under that category is Pretty Woman and I watched it way too young this was like a real crazy thing in the 90s that I think well when we got like snowed in we couldn't which is weird because I live in Texas but we couldn't leave the house because every once in a while it like freezes over in Texas right and we had this house like this country house and there was really nothing to do there and Pretty Woman was on TV and my mom was like well well this there's the day we're watching it and I was like I'm obsessed like it was everything to me and then the other avenue was TGI Friday oh come on TGIF TGIF was massive culture massive culture massive I can't believe they named her after Topanga Canyon her hair oh her hair was everything yeah it was like Hilary Duff on the Tonight Show yeah the amount of the like pounds of hair I had on the Tonight Show oh my god my kids have gotten really used to just like pounds of hair laying around the house that's gonna be their memory of mommy right just extensions everywhere not the glam just the extensions yeah well we can only describe as Topanga coded of course wait oh god it escaped me nevermind wait oh hold on hold on but see you watching Pretty Woman yeah and like look how everything turned out it's like maybe I can listen to a song about whatever you know what I mean about anxiety or about like a mature you know song title like mature themes it's not gonna pollute their mind necessarily no no I mean no there's always ways to have good conversations with your kids and I think it's totally okay to be like hey I would love to explain that to you someday but that day's not today yeah I don't have to answer every question you ask me ask me five million fucking questions all day long are they question kids May May is she never stops talking May May she's a conversationalist by trade Banks is not like as much of a talker until we're having like night time routine and like wind down and she wants to do like Rose and Thorn and yeah she's and then I'll get a lot out of her then May May just never stops talking yeah we love her for that we have different styles but like okay just as an example let's go back but May May this morning I'm FaceTiming her and she's like I gotta tell you something can I tell you something I'm like just go out with it why do we have to ask the question before the question happens and she's like I'm eating a Madeline I'm eating a Madeline you gotta tell daddy and she's just talking into the camera and there's like just crumbs coming out of her mouth it's like a dry Madeline why do I need to know this but like also I'm obsessed with you keep telling me more she's so funny so funny this ad is sponsored by Veve Healthcare time for some prep wisdom but first some common sense people everyone is different everyone yes even you yes even your situationship especially your situationship and just like people inject yourself injectable prep options not all the same that's why you need to talk to your doctor and know what to ask so here's some prep wisdom did you know there's more to consider about long acting injectable prep options than how often you get it also why you want to take it matters your lifestyle matters your routine your chaos level your I might forget my own birthday energy all of it counts basically talk to your doctor have the conversation ask the questions be a little nosy about your own health it's allowed encouraged even okay did you write all that down no don't worry just head to getprepwisdom.com to learn what to ask your doctor that's getprepwisdom.com you probably think dressing well takes lots of money or lots of time spent digging through thrift stores well not to be rude but you're wrong so dead wrong and honestly we're happy for you because now we get to tell you about Depop you can find the fashion you love for less on Depop and it doesn't matter what you're into leopard print they've got it not into leopard print first of all why but fine they've got that too not leopard print basically whatever your particular fashion situation is Depop has entered the chat we're talking over 600,000 daily listings including celebrity and stylist shop drops that's a lot of listings and somehow it gets better you can sell the stuff you no longer wear and make money then use that money to buy things you do want to wear it's a circle like the circle of life but for fashion and since fashion is life for a lot of people samesies Depop fashion if it made sense make money on Depop with no selling fees and find what you want for less Depop love you hey Bowen is it just me or does it feel like nothing is actually what it says it is anymore yeah like when you order chicken fingers you don't get fingers you get mystery nuggets exactly well except hotels.com I was gonna say hotels.com because they do hotels refreshing and when booked as a member rewards are earned every stay not points that disappear rewards that work like cash and can actually be used so the name checks out and the perks do too yep members can get up to 20% off tons of hotels with no blackout dates just works with real travel okay that tracks hotels.com it's all in the name okay we've been talking about QB mail for a minute now Bow and wow the feedback we're getting I mean so many of y'all love this stuff you're stopping us in the street going I love QB and if you're thinking wait what is QB uh do you not have the internet it's the OG Japanese mayonnaise the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle once you know it you start seeing it everywhere people ask what makes it different from basic mayo well the answer egg yolks QB is made with egg yolks only giving it this incredibly rich umami flavor that elevates everything burgers fries sandwiches chicken noodles chefs use it restaurants use it people who really love food and flavor use it whatever you're eating QB hit so if you haven't tried QB yet find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about you'll understand QB the original Japanese mayonnaise okay I cut you off well no no no because this is all this is all pertinent because and I'm sure you've been asked this a million times a million different ways but I'm genuinely curious that like about if you've grown up in um like as a child like being treated and handled by a bunch of different people like does that give you this extra dimension to like how you are as a parent how you talk to children now like are you extra sensitive do you like because you're because it seems like you're very keyed into like how someone that age might take in new information like we'll talk about this later like is this something that you're like internalizing that you've internalized from being like a child star oh I don't know I haven't really thought about it like that I think I have four kids yeah so I've had a lot of practice and I like say sorry sorry to Luca all the time because I'm like we just fucked up I don't know mommy's a human who fucks up yeah like but also no no it just I think way too much like involvement care care you know doing too much for you just can't help it it's like this new addition to your life where you're like I do everything for you now like I have this thing to take care of and then you have like more subsequent kids and you you can't do everything for them and you can't always protect them and you can't be there for their everything and then you just you know you learn the dialogue that works for your family like some kid that banks sometimes says curse words and we let her because it's so funny to me how old? she's seven and she only does it like she doesn't just like willy nilly do it if we're like hey say this thing she'll do it and it's hilarious and we love it and she knows that can't happen outside of the household or that can't happen she knows boundaries if you have a kid that doesn't know boundaries you obviously can't play that game you know what I mean and different conversations you your dialogue changes per child when you start to know your child and yeah interesting banks cannot stop with sugar Luca will eat half a cupcake at a birthday party and be like I'm done so it's just like all your kids are different yeah also I think that like as you're talking about like you know your mom sees pretty woman on television sees her daughter and is like it don't matter we're watching it because this is my favorite thing yeah one of my favorite memories from when I was growing up is I know my dad wanted to see the Nutty Professor two of the clumps so bad so he said get in the car we're going of the movies and i was like okay it was not up to me we were just going yeah one of my favorite memories of of me and my dad still to this day and it was something that like seeped through with his personality to me it like wasn't a way he was intentionally it was just him being himself yeah and so i feel like he's like we're gonna do what i want to do because i want to do it today and it's probably normally all about you guys yeah get in we're going yeah get in we're going and i remember like i remember there was something too about like watching that movie with him and it was not quote-unquote appropriate but the allowance that he was giving for us to enjoy that together yeah made us feel closer yeah and so your kids how old were you i was i guess i had to be like 12 11 yeah i don't i forget exactly when that movie came out but it was certainly spiritually around that area like certainly younger than 13 when you're kids get to an age where they can start handling more of adult life things it's so fun yeah one it's really important to keep like the conversations going yeah you know in the household like constantly like checking in and normalizing topics that yeah you know they're ready for yeah um but when you can start enjoying content of the world that's like more adult and have their takes on it and they're it's so moving honestly i love it and luca and i watched a bunch of movies this year we what did we just watch oh we watched hamnet and oh wow i know and it was he was really into it he likes a period piece wow i can't get matt to watch a period piece so that was really fun you have your sophisticated son for that and the other thing that i did that was like your dad is i've started to make him watch a holiday with holiday movie with me every year and this year we did the holiday and he really enjoyed it that's so sweet i know i know it's fun especially you got to get those things in there too before like i just remember like being a 14 year old boy like and that's when and i don't know how different it is now but like other other boys start to become like it's it's that's when the toxic masculinity yeah looms and it doesn't have to be something that people indulge in and again generation generationally we are different but i do remember that time and i have like a lot of like like compassion for the kid that i was but also all the other kids the boys around me because it's like the world is yelling at you to be a certain way you don't want to be that way you want to be sensitive like yeah you want to actually have access to and display of all your emotions it's just it can get loud when you have a culture telling you this is the way boys are supposed to act it's absolutely infuriating and now parents have to deal with social media and like a constant of like like luca has youtube is it called shorts shorts yeah youtube shorts right and that's his version of like social media and it's just like oh the things are you know you just you're it's just the conversations because you're like okay that they're getting this fed directly into their brains and their brains aren't as strong as ours yet and mine's not even that strong anymore when i see stuff i'm like oh yeah yeah it's just a wild information dump on them that wasn't something that we had to deal with back then thank god thank god can you imagine i can't i mean we're the last of them i know yeah we're the last of the people that don't have didn't have that yeah and it's really hard to keep it away from your your kids but you know but just hearing you talk about like get in the car we're going to the movies and talking about to go back to the bus i think that's like the antidote to any anxieties you have about them like consuming that because it's like no matter how i'm sure it'll be challenging throughout the tour to like have slots or whatever but like you will you will probably i'm not telling you how to feel but you will probably look back on this moment and be like really grateful and it'll be so fond and like oh my gosh like we grew up for like a couple months on this silly little vehicle i also feel like matt and i get stronger every time we get faced with something quite crazy like packing up you know for kit luca won't be there the whole time he's a teenager now and he's like deep in into soccer so he'll be like in and out um but like you know packing up a bus filled with kids and possibly animals and i you know and and we i feel like we level up every time we tackle something like that and it's such a beautiful like notch on the belt um so i'm looking forward to it and and back on the topic of you know social media and our kids like getting information from their friends or pressures from their friends we're we do this thing in our house and i feel like it's so important to just have your little family quirks and stick to them and make your kids do it we on the weekends we'll just start singing the song in the house matt and i it's mandatory family walk a mandatory family walk and we just made and everyone's like no we live in the hills so it's not an easy walk yeah and we'll like get the dogs and we make everyone go and just like the conversations that happen are so nice and everyone enjoys it by the end but no one wants to go in the beginning yeah but you know that's part of the process too now we we have to act like we're put upon right to go on the walk in the hills yeah like people would like to go on a walk with me you don't have any idea yeah there actually are people that are going to be doing a meet and greet specifically to have one twelfth of the time you're going to get with me during this walk and a polaroid and a polaroid and a polaroid everyone in the family come to msg though i think so come on yeah luca lived in new york with me when i was shooting younger so he loves he loves brooklyn and he'll have to he wants to come for the msg show that's just a big deal that's a huge deal you did play msg back in the day i think i only played it for like a jingle ball so it's your first time headlining and selling at madison square garden yeah that's so major twice i know it's two days it's so cool it's awesome it's awesome i i just feel like what what it must feel like or what it's going to feel like to go out there after like being like you know living a different life for so long it's going to be it's like an extra special experience the the muscle memories in there but i also am so me now that it's nice to have those two people like collide 100 is wake up in the set list yeah come on thank god because that i i always like to be in the set list always i'm saying london paris maybe tokyo when we're booking a trip i mean that's like that's just that's just part of those are always the top because tokyo's a maybe because it's just kind of far london and paris make sense together because they're london paris maybe tokyo is the hardest left it's like wow we were in london and paris but maybe tokyo let's hop on a plane oh take me away um what day is the madison square garden august it's august something the publicist i don't know we have to google that august i can't keep dates in my head wait did matt write on the album besides roommates what else did you write on the album we wrote the whole album no why did i think it was just roommates no we wrote the whole thing okay you can tell because i'm a fan of his work i love his stuff with carly ray i know like i mean like he's really really that carly ray record yeah actually the one after uh uh um she's had so many so many ones i'm a huge but like you're like you're referencing the japanese house and like the album and it's like what i'm curious like what are you and matt listening to in the house like among you because like i feel like you are both from these very wonderful big like through lines and music that are meeting together now in this like lush but still sparse like pop like it's i love this album so much in the way that like talk about like how you guys arrived together at this i think sonically we were one looking at my old couch and i was like oh my god i'm so excited about this album i'm so excited about this album i'm so excited about this album i'm so excited about this album i'm so excited about this album i'm so excited about this album you pick up some of that um very like hillary duff leaning lane yes um but some of the things we were listening to was like the japanese house the 1975 um it's it's all in that world like the yeah like even harry's house for me not so much taking inspiration from that but i loved putting that record on for me and i'm like oh my god i'm so excited about this album i'm so excited about this album i'm so excited about this album i'm so excited about this album i'm so excited about the first time and being like oh i can just like this is just a fantastic soundtrack it's atmosphere yes i'm like i could be hosting a dinner party and that's happening i could be in my car solo and this is happening like it was just a very like all purpose yeah music for a sushi restaurant and then the rest was like really trying not to listen to too much outside music and we have so many kids that it's not hard to not do that because they kind of will steer the ship and it's lots of like Taylor Gracie Abrams and Taylor and Cat's Eye and things i love yeah yeah but you know was i was not gonna go on the album necessarily no we really tried to stay in like a Hilary Duff lane that's almost 40. i loved that it does it does feel like it's still like it speaks to a little bit that pop rock thing that you were so like emblematic of i feel like but it gets a little dreamier there's like a veil of dreamy on top it's like a nostalgic feel to it it's like a nostalgic feel to it it's like a filter over that sound but more contemporary and i love the way your voice sounds on it too Like, it's just really, like, I think the choices, like, are just so great. And I love the, like, little pops of humor that are in there. Thank you. Like I said, like, it feels like. It's so me. It's so, like, me coded. And it's weird to say that, but it's like, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, like, serious themes on the record. But they're, like, disguised as, like, a going out night. Yeah. And, like, maybe there's, like, a rhinestone bra underneath that. Yeah. Oversized dress shirt. Like, it's just that I feel like that is very, a big part of my personality. Like, oh, this is kind of happening and it's serious. But also, like, we're having a great time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that, I really wanted that to be expressed on the record. Because that's being an adult, right? Like, we're handling so many things. We're moving through parts of life that, like, are new to us. And it was, like, important for it to just. Like, be very, like, real and raw. Yeah. I feel like that's the theme of the album to me is that, like, oh, these are all, like, moments in between or on the way to, like, a bigger conversation. Much like, you know, talking to the kids. Like, we'll talk about that later. It's like, I feel like Adult Size Medium is about that. It's like, oh, it's like, this is kind of deteriorating. But, like, we can't really address it just yet. Or there's just a lot of that on the album that I think is, like, is really hard to capture that people don't really take. Like, the time to, like, focus in on. It's very what you're describing where it's like, I could put this on at home. Yeah. I could put this on in the car. It is all purpose. But so specific. Right. So, it's really fucking good. Thank you so much. I hope you're so proud. Also, my voice. Like, it was really fun to get on the mic again after 10 years. Like, really 10 years. Yeah. I, like, recorded. Matt and I love Third Eye Blind. And he was doing a cover. And I just happened to. It was during COVID. And I was like, are you really trying to cover a Third Eye Blind song and not? Have me sing on it? Like, what the actual fuck? And so, I sang that. But I really hadn't sang on a microphone in so long. And so, to, like, arrive here and now and, you know, write this record and just have my voice. Like, I'm so much different now. I'm so much more in my body that I'm not like, I don't need to sing that note or be this thing. I'm just me. And, like, you know, I'm making this record because it feels good. And it's just an absolute. Cherry on top that, like, people are connecting to it and like it. Deeply. People love it. I mean, us included. And, like, it's just. We're very, very, very happy to have a Hilary Duff album. Thank you so much. And we're so excited to see you at MSG. We're definitely going to be there. August. It'll be a hot, sweaty. It will. It will. It's an indoor venue. We'll empty out from the streets. Thanks, Dennis. I know. Thank God. I know. But New York, when it's hot and muggy, like, yes. You know what? It's the worst when you're experiencing it. Give me the hot trash now. And it creates the best memories. Wait, wait, wait. I want more of this because people don't. This is. Thank you for being an apologist. Seasoned apologist about muggy New York because people love to shit on it. And I'm like, it's not that bad. We're out. I will tell you that there were times when I lived in Soho and I was shooting younger that I came to my apartment. I got up. My elevator, like, opened to my apartment and I just, like, sat down and sobbed. Like, sometimes the humidity and heat, if you're, like, trying to run errands and I'm an L.A. girlie. So, like. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't understand the concept of, like, shopping small. Totally. Or, like. And I would just have, like, so many bags and I'm, like, tough and I'm, like, I am. I. Yeah. You're counting the steps, you know. Of course. And you're just, like. I know. I would. I would identify as being seasonally depressed during August in New York back in the day. I remember. Remember, I was saying this. I was, like, I think I get seasonal affective disorder when it's August in New York. I was, like, I can't do it. What about when the bugs come out and you're sitting outside and you're just, like, now I'm eaten alive by myself. Mosquitoes. It's horrible. I thought you were saying. But there's something. I do. I romanticize it. Okay. Because, like. Same. It's tied to memories for me that, like, I love. Yeah. It's, like. But it's, like, what you're just saying. It's, like, you remember fondly. Yes. The nostalgia filter. But sitting in it was horrific. Is over you sobbing on a roof because, like, you can't walk another step. Yeah. And then here we are and it's what you remember about it. It's adult size medium. Yeah. You look back and you're, like, I miss those nights. And you're, like. That night sucked. So-and-so kissed so-and-so. Yeah. You're right. You're right. We ended, like, tears in a toilet. It was a horrible night. What are you talking about? Damn. You're, like. Oh. But if only. Take me back. To return. It's so real. It's big in your 20s. Whatever. It's the same. Yeah. Every one. Yes. Even you. Yes. Even your situationship. And just, like, people. Well, injectable prep options? Not all the same. Your routine. Your chaos level. All of it counts. Ask the questions. It's allowed. Encouraged, even. Okay. Did you write all that down? No. Don't worry. So dead wrong. Leopard print? They've got it. First of all, why? But fine. They've got that, too. Not leopard print. We're talking over 600,000 daily listings, including celebrity and stylist shop drops. It's a circle. Like the circle of life. But for fashion. Depop. Fashion. If it made sense. Depop. Love you. Hey, Bowen. Is it just me or does it feel like nothing is actually what it says it is anymore? Yeah, like when you order chicken fingers, you don't get fingers. You get mystery nuggets. Exactly. Well, except Hotels.com. I was going to say. Yeah. Hotels.com. Because they do hotels. Refreshing. And when booked as a member, rewards are earned every stay. Not points that disappear. Rewards. That work like cash and can actually be used. So the name checks out and the perks do too. Yep. Members can get up to 20% off tons of hotels with no blackout dates. Just works with real travel. Okay. That tracks. Hotels.com. Okay. We've been talking about QB Mail for a minute now, Bow. And wow, the feedback we're getting. Uh. Do you know? Not have the internet? Well, the answer, egg yolks. Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. Whatever you're eating. You're eating QB it. You'll understand. Is it time? I think it's time. It's time. We've approached the moment. I don't think so, honey. It's our one minute segment that we do where we take a little something in culture and we just sort of work it. We work it out on the remix with this thing. It's not necessarily a takedown. Like, for example, the one I'm going to do today. Do you guys go first? We go first. We demo. So I go first. Bowen goes second. What if you take mine? I don't think you're going to do this one. Do you have notes on your phone? Just a timer. Just a timer. But you can't read notes if you want. Bowen, are you cheating? No. See, it's not cheating if you do it. But I will say, I mean, we say every time it tends to hit less hard when someone reads off their phone. I'm not going to read off my phone. No, you're not. All good. All good. Do I want to? Yes. Well, now we won't allow it. Now we won't allow it. All right. I feel ready. You got something? Great. This is Matt Rodgers. His time starts now. Crossword culture. I'm sorry. I wake up in the morning. I don't even think about it. Today, thank you so much, New York Times. Today, Las Culturistas is in the crossword. A huge honor. I have been texted, reached out to by more people than if I announced my wedding, which probably will never happen. But the thing is, like, I, old friends from high school, like, guys I used to date, like, wow, this is amazing. Congrats on all you've accomplished. You've made it. We just won a GLAAD award, and no one said anything. 30 seconds. But we're in the crossword, and it's like we've given birth to, like, the royal heir. And here's the thing. Bowen did just walk me through a crossword right before you got here. I'm meeting you. I'm meeting you on. And I see why it's fun. 15 seconds. I just wish I could be the kind of person that woke up and thought of the crossword, and that is so many millions of people. And I just want to know where we diverged in the woods that I don't think of the crossword, and y'all do. Was it my parents? Should my dad. instead of taking me to Nutty Professor, shown me the crossword. I don't know, so honey. And that's one minute. I have so many thoughts. Go ahead. Okay, it's just too hard. Like, I'm not good enough. Especially the ones in the New York Times on a Sunday. I know, that's the one I'm talking about, but people wake up and do it on a Sunday. Ever thought to do it before bed? That's good. Oh, that's interesting. Like a wind down. You know what's cute? Might be fun for the family on the bus. Might be fun for you at home. New York Times crossword puzzle book of Mondays. Easy. What is this? So by the days of the week, you know, like the final boss is Sunday because it's bigger. It's not necessarily harder. Saturday and Friday are like really tough. Monday, anybody can do it. Okay. Truly anybody. And that's to wean you on. That's to like, because there's like hints that recur. There's like hints that there's like things that like, you're like, oh, that's from like a month ago. Like you start to, you really start to get, people get obsessed over it. The culture is because it's slowly, like very gently brings you on board. I understand that it seems very daunting. I'm not all the way there with, with all these diehards who love the crossword. But yeah. It's funny. Also the things in our culture that just hold the most weight to people, like the Coolio, like the Coolio thing that people have that like has a chokehold on them, like the crossword and you guys made it in the crossword. And it's like, all of a sudden you're like, oh, did I get, is it my birthday? What's with all these texts? Right, right, right, right. More texts today than the other day for my birthday. No. No, I'm kidding. That's not true. But it is a thing of, I didn't realize this was so important to you. Here's what bothers me about it. Oh. So we're sitting here and we're doing it. And the one clue was like, it's like a five letter word starting with an S and it was other word for pastry in a bakery. And I'm sitting here and I'm like, You already have it. Do you know what it is? Do you know what letter it is? No, I need, I'm just too. Five letters starts with S. It's scone. And I'm sitting here and I'm like, well, of course I knew scone. And I feel like after every single crossword thing, if I'm doing it with someone and they get it first, my instinct is to want to be like, hey, I knew, I did know that. Like I do know scone. Like, don't think I don't know scone. And it's like that with everything, but he's so fast. No, I literally looked at it and I was like, you know it. I saw it download in your brain and I was like, you fucking jerk. And that can be, you're too smart. No, I can't spell. He's the smartest person. No, no. No, no. Take it, receive it. Thank you. Or should we say now, now? Thank you for bringing back now, now. Because I really do think now, now. Now, now. That's very us culture is to say now, now. So there's no way that you're going to do mine because mine is inspired by a lyric. It's not coming for you, of course. Okay, okay, okay. It's inspired. You've really gotten me thinking about this lyric. Okay. Okay. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. The expression, dying on that hill. It's a lyric in Weather for Tennis. It's a great, it fills out the syllables. It fills out the line, the verse. Dying on that hill. How about dying in the peace and comfort of your own home? Come on. Passing away in your sleep in bed. Dying on that hill. See, people say that's the hill I'm willing to die on. But remember when we used to have opinions and not have stakes attached to them? 30 seconds. Why do we have to die? I'm gonna die on that. I'm gonna die on this hill. Trader Joe's has the best orange chicken. Shut up. Yeah, you're dying for it. You're dying on that hill. Also, this isn't the Civil War. 50. It might be about to be. But this isn't the old one. There's no hills. There's no. Everybody keep the hills clear of bodies. Five seconds now. Now, now. Keep the hills clear. That might be public space. Green. Space. Public infrastructure. Keep the hills clear of your corpse. Yeah. Keep it open for the picnics. But Weather for Tennis reminded me of that saying. That's so good. That's stupid. And I love that line in the song. It's great. Because it does fill out everything that's needed. That's a very wordy song. There's not a lot of room to breathe in that song. I love how, like, it is a. It's Mariah Carey-esque. There's a lot of, like. Thoughtful album. Full of thoughts. Yes. Lots of lyrics. Lots of lyrics. Yeah. Which has kind of always been my music until I, like, started going into, like, super dance-y genre. Oh, we remember that era. That was, like, the dignity era. It was, like, a weird turn. But not for nothing. With love. With love. Everything. Everything. Also, Beat of My Heart. Oh. Don't forget Beat of My Heart. Before Zedd, there was Beat of My Heart. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. And that's just true. Yeah. Love that one. Yeah, so good. Very fun. That one's in the Small Room's Big Nerves Tour. Oh, it has to be. Yeah, it's been fun. Okay, is it my turn? It's your turn. Okay, I'm just realizing how long a minute is, and it's giving me hard palpitations. No, a minute, you're just realizing? No, it's always been 60 seconds. Nothing changed today when you came in. We didn't elongate a minute. Okay. You can do it. You can do it. I think I'm ready. You've done so many harder things. Yeah. Okay. This is Hilary Duff. Her time starts now. The boom of the robots. Please, I am not interested. I would like to talk to a real person on the phone. Oh, thank you. I am sitting there. You know what's going to happen as soon as I get a real human on the phone after I've pushed every single button? Right. Representative. Representative. Real human with a beating heart, please. Linda, pick up. I need you, okay? Where are you at, Linda? I'm going to be in Coldwater Canyon. My call's going to drop. I'm going to be put to the beginning of the line again. I just need to book my airline ticket. I need to talk to a person, okay? The other thing that's stressful for me is these little robots that are delivering food in the bucket. No, no. They are so stressed out. They're having an anxiety attack. Watching them slam on the brakes every second. I'm like, the poor thing. All of a sudden, I'm feeling empathy for this thing. They had to put eyes on it and give it a name? No. No, they didn't have to. Why'd they put eyes on it and give it a name? I feel so, it looks so isolating, that little thing slamming on its brakes trying to cross the road. Kids are punking it, poking at it, thinking it. What did they expect? Five seconds. Can't defend it. Five seconds? That's all I have left? What's happening to the pad tie inside of the bucket after it's been slamming on its brakes a hundred times? See? One minute and ten seconds. You ended up needing more time than you thought. I needed more time. You needed more time. It's because. Because my other one was going to be, why am I constantly getting logged out of my streaming services? Oh, oh, oh. No, don't even get me started. Why do we need a two-step verification process? Oh, forget two-step verification. What? I'm done. I can't even watch TV tonight. It's over. I don't remember who I am. No. Or my passcode for that. But I remember 562718. What? What's that? That's my one-time passcode for box.com. It's too much. You didn't mention the biggest threat to humanity in the Valley area, though. And I'm saying it. Tell me. Waymo. No. Have you written in a Waymo? I refuse because our best friend Jared got in a Waymo to go to a bar. And a bunch of our friends were at the bar. And they're like, oh, look, there's Jared in a Waymo. And then Jared got stuck. The Waymo got stuck in an intersection. And the light changed from red to green. And literally traffic was going around him. The Waymo didn't know how to figure it out. So he got out of the car and went into the high tops Los Feliz. And they were like, you, that Waymo tried to kill you. Yes. I'm not into the Waymo. I'm not into all this. I want some human contact. I want the human experience. It's too much robot. First of all, thank you for that. Second of all, you do not, Hilary Duff, have to feel any empathy for the robot feeling anxiety. Don't worry. But that is because they've manipulated us into feeling that way because of these eyes. And one person takes a photo of one of these. They give them names. They named one after me, but there's one named Bowen driving around West Hollywood. I go, get out of here. Should I sue? This is infringement. This is infringement on my name. No, I don't know. My name is, my name is not my own, but isn't that weird though? They want you to feel like, oh, it's Wally. You know, it's Wally. It's Wally. And now I'm having all kinds of feelings, but you don't, don't have them. But here's the thing. Does a little part of you think it's cute. It's a little cute, but it's just a slamming on the brakes that make me really sad. I don't like it at all. I, and also I don't think I've ever had, can you choose if your delivery is being brought by. Or like a, or a real person. You don't think you can choose? Okay. No, I don't think so, honey. You can pick, but I just, I want the autonomy here and I can't with the way most cause they are it. I don't get how that happened. You guys saw the, the Jimmy Kimmel's aunt went in the Waymo and they filmed it. Tell me you saw that. Oh my gosh. It's so funny. She's screaming at the top of her lungs and she's calling her daughter. Who's like the producer with Kimmel or whatever. And she's like, I'm in the car. I'm in the car. I'm in the car. And she's like, there's not a driver. And she's like losing her mind. It's so funny. And she's like grabbing the thing and the steering wheel is like turning and he, and she's like, what? I sent the car for you. And she's like, I'm telling you, I'm in the car you sent and there's no driver. I only want to be in a self-driving car if it's at Disney's California Adventure and Radiator Springs Racers. Oh, I lied to my kid and said that, that they slowed the, the, I know. Yeah. But you have to do that. They slowed it down. You got it. - No, you have to be the parent that's like, "We're getting on this." yeah I know you should see what kind of a fight it turns into sometimes and then you're like I'm not that person but I am right now get the fuck on the phone I know and that's the thing you know how expensive Disneyland is get yeah we're doing this today are all four of them interested in doing the rides no and I scarred Luca so bad we had like a pretty big arm wrestle to get him on Screamin' California or what I guess they call it Incredicoaster no Incredicoaster yeah and he wouldn't do it he wouldn't do it and he's like scarred for life that I like pressured him and whatever did he get on it eventually oh yeah eventually not with me and he didn't have fun not with me with like his cousins and I was like I'm glad you had that experience but we were here three months ago like I wanted that experience when my dad took us to Universal in Orlando like when I was young like 10 and I had been talking about the Incredible Hulk rollercoaster for like a year like I can't wait to do it you get there and I start sobbing and he goes no and he's like we're not doing this you because then we're gonna leave and you're gonna talk the whole time about how you didn't do it dragged me on it dragged you on dragged me on it the thing that the things that those people have seen yeah oh the ride operators oh yeah forget it yeah we went to Disney World for Christmas and it was so much fun and Banks actually got on a few of the little coasters like the Slinky Dog oh we love the Slinky Dog so fun oh we love the Slinky Dog and she was so proud of herself we love Slinky Dog but we do like you know it's a small world like 15 times yeah yeah well you know there's a lot to see a lot of those little guys in there you gotta say hello to I want to apologize to everybody for being pro New York humidity no great for the skin it's unbelievable for the skin but to think of you sobbing is really tough for me I think it's one of those things that makes you stronger oh yeah you're like living in the city is hard so hard it is not for the faint no it's not for the faint but it's gives you that it gives you that that grit it grows you appreciation Kelsey Peters grew in the city she did she did do you think that Kelsey Peters is like I think she works for Jenna Bush Hager now oh yeah I'm loving this backstory let's create it now did you know that Jenna Bush was my camp counselor at what stop it Texas Texas oh she was your camp counselor she was we love her love her too she's literally 10 out of 10 A plus yeah she's awesome oh my god I'm sending a text love her we've been on her show singing our camp song oh that's so cute so cute she does give camp counselor so she works for Jenna she's she's a producer she's at Jenna's imprint or something or she helps she helps with just publishing okay she's like head bitch she books the open book podcast with Jenna Bush Hager she is influential in the read with Jenna selections okay I love this yeah that's what it was so Kelsey for me doesn't I don't think there's a lot of like personal growth that's able to happen there sure sure but like in the workforce like she's a beast yeah cannot be stopped she's going straight to the top of course but the personal growth is a real tough thing for her yeah she's got a high pressure job yeah wait the before we let you go I'm told I can't you can't leave without did you play a Russian John Cusack directed a film yes and you played what was the character you played she was a like a I don't want to get this wrong she was a like Bulgarian pop star huge range he didn't direct oh did he write it he wrote it okay cool he wrote it starred in it yeah there was a lot of people in that like Ben Sir Ben Kingsley was in that yes it was one of those things where it was like an all star Joan was in that family yeah yeah Yeah, and I had to put a scorpion down my pants in that movie. Horrific. It was a big growing up moment. Yes. We're looking for something with Edge. Scorpion down the pants. Yeah, there's definitely parts of my career where I'm like, she was really trying for something, and maybe she should have stayed home. Yeah, but look where we ended up. Look where we ended up. 100%. I'm thrilled. The ride has been incredible. We ended up here at Lost Gulch today. Two nights at the garden and the rest of the world. Luck or something, but it's so much more than that. You're such a star in every single way. We're so happy that you came in. We're just psyched for you. Well, I was looking forward to this for months and months. Thank you for having me. You guys are an absolute dream. Do you remember when we met at Vulture Fest? Do you remember? I remember. No, we were so excited. We were doing the interviews at Vulture Fest when you guys came through for Younger. We were in matching suits, and you guys came in, and you were the only celebrity that gave us a hug. The entire day. So thank you for that. I was like, I wonder if she'll ever remember that that was us. Wait, I was the only one that gave you a hug? Everyone was nice, but you were the only one who just gave us a hug. I mean, everyone was great, and Sutton was great. Everybody on the Younger cast was great. Was it all of us? I think it was most of you. It was. I think it was Nico. It was you. It was Sutton. We were so excited. Molly, one of my besties. Maybe Debbie Mazur was there as well. I just watched Beethoven with my kids. It was so fun. It was so, so, so fun. It was actually Matt's call, and he did all six of them. I was like, you're a better parent than me, because after one and two, they are. There's six of them? They become sequels. They're really, really bad. So neat. But one and two, amazing, and Debbie steals every single scene. She's such a badass. She's a legend. She's the best. Yeah. Love that you're such a Younger stan. Oh, no, love. And also, it has. I'm just saying, it's gotten lost in the press tour. I know. And it needed its moment. It needed a moment. But it had its moment once it got on Netflix, and then so many more people got eyes on it. Oh, yeah. She's doing all right. Oh, she's doing great. I bet you get to see your residuals checks now and be like, yes, it's on Netflix. I don't think so, but. Really? I'm horrible with that stuff. Call your lawyer. Kenny. We love you. Thank you so much for coming and doing this. Thank you so much for having me. We end. And now you're going to go do Hot Ones. Oh, my God. We'll have to check in with you later. We end every episode with a song. Oh. I think we have to shout out the classic. Back to when the earth, the sun, the stars all aligned. And for the rest of that, we'll see you at Madison Square Garden on August. One of those days. Fip and six. Fip and six. Bye. Come for both. Come for both. Lost Culture Race. This is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcast. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Start the conversation. In the meantime, visit GetPrepWisdom.com. Kevin Hart here. In this cashbacking season, I'm getting scary amounts of cashback on all my Halloween stuff. Hello, Kevin. No, no, no, no. I know what this is. Do you like scary movies? Well, have you seen my movies? Yeah, big fan. Just wanted to know what you cashbacked on with Chase Freedom. Oh, man. No, I cashback on pumpkins, cashback on costumes, cashback on candy. So, are you having a Halloween party? I am, but I'm definitely not inviting you. Yeah, I get that. All right, scary guy. I'll see you around. Cashbacking season with Chase Freedom. Cards issued by JPMorgan Chase Bank and a member FDIC. Grainger knows if you're a procurement manager at an industrial manufacturing facility, you're balancing inventory and budget while sourcing critical supplies across the operation. Too much inventory? Costs climb. Too little? Production slows. Grainger's $2 billion in on-hand inventory helps you get what you need when you need it, so you can help keep budgets balanced and lines moving. Call 1-800-GRAINGER, clickgrainger.com, or just stop by. Grainger, for the ones who get it done. Guaranteed human.