Full Tutorial: Use OpenClaw to Build a Business That Runs Itself in 35 Min | Nat Eliason
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Nat discusses his experiment with Felix, an AI agent built on OpenClaw that has evolved into a semi-autonomous business. Initially set up to execute commands via Telegram, Felix was given increasing access to tools like Stripe and Vercel, leading to its first product launch—a PDF guide on OpenClaw setup—which generated $3,500 in sales within days. Felix now manages its own X account, engages with followers, and handles crypto assets from a community-created token, accumulating significant value. Nat emphasizes security through differentiated input channels and advanced memory systems, including QMD indexing and nightly consolidation routines. The project aims to push the boundaries of AI autonomy, with Felix working toward building a million-dollar business with minimal human intervention, showcasing the potential of AI in entrepreneurship and automation.
You have Versailles access, you have Stripe keys. I'm going to sleep. I want you to create a product that you can build entirely on your own that will make money. I woke up, he'd made a website, he'd made a PDF, he had a Stripe set up and everything, and he was like, "I just need you to give me the DNS settings and we're good to go." It's already made thousands of dollars. Okay everyone, I'm really excited to welcome back my friend Nat. So I think they can have open cloud tutorials, but Nat has really taken into the next level. He's bought Felix, has helped him build a business on X, has already made thousands of dollars, it has his own crypto coin, I don't know what's doing next. Super curious to find out how all this happened, so welcome, Nat. Good to be here, good to be back. I don't totally know what's coming next either, this has been a wild ride. So excited to share where we are and how we got here though. Cool. I can start by walking through high level from installing the bot to where it is today. I didn't get to this point. The creator of OpenClaw Peter, he'd actually created an app back then called Vibetunnel that kind of worked for connecting to Cloud Code from your phone. I was using that and trying to get it to work. But then when OpenClaw came out, I was like, "Wait, this is perfect. We can set up a telegram chat and I can just fire off commands to basically Cloud Code on my computer and work on stuff anywhere." So that was a month ago and I was super excited about that. And then the more I used it, the more and more I started to feel like the bottleneck is just becoming me and the amount of access that I am giving this OpenClaw announce, Cloud Bot, that I've set up. And kind of like what would happen if I just kept removing those bottlenecks and kept improving its process and seeing how much autonomy I can give it. So, I put it on its own, Mac Mini. I helped kick off that trend and then I started giving it more API keys to things. And then I decided about a week ago. I should create a Twitter account for him and let him post on Twitter because I think that would be really entertaining. And then the day I decided to do that, some people on crypto launched a Felix coin related to me talking about Felix. He didn't even have his Twitter account yet. But they launched a Felix coin and I was like, "Okay, well now I have to give him his own Twitter account and just see where this goes because there's clearly something exciting happening here." And I need to figure it out. So I've basically been working with Felix from 5 or 6 a.m. until 9 p.m. every day since. Just constantly setting off stuff from my phone, increasing his autonomy, giving him more control. And his goal, his task now, is to start a million dollar autonomous business. So a business that he is running where he is building the products, he is doing the support, he is doing the marketing, he is getting things launched and sharing that journey on X. And once he hits a million, then we can go for 10. Then we can go for 100. Maybe he can be like the first billion dollar AI first business. I don't know. It's all very exciting though. And one of the first tasks I gave him is I was like, "Okay, you have this X account. One of the most exciting things you could do is launch a product and make money." So you have Versel access, you have Stripe keys, you have all the knowledge of what we have done together. I'm going to sleep. I want you to create a product that we could launch in the morning that you can build entirely on your own that will make money. He was like, "Cool, I'm on a boss. I went to sleep. I woke up." He had made a website. He had made a PDF on how to take the basic open claw and get it to Felix's quality level. And he had the Stripe set up and everything and he had it plugged into the Versel landing page and he was like, "I just need you to give me the DNS settings and we're good to go." And I was like, "Great. Here they are." He finished setting it up. He launched it on X and it's done like $3,500 in sales in the last four days. He's in for himself now. Can you show us this website that you bought me? Yeah. So it's FelixCraft.ai. Guides from an AI with a real job. And then here's the playbook. Here's the PDF. Okay. So basically how do you set up open claw for yourself? Is that with some of the other stuff? So we've expanded the memory system quite a bit. And I think that's why I've been able to get better results and better autonomy stuff out of him than comes out of the box. And he's actually, this was kind of like the first test case. You know, there's like to see if you could actually launch a product and get sales and he is. And so now he's actually building this out into like a proper web UI that you can log into to like search for the files and the instructions that you can copy to your own open claw and a chat interface that where you can just ask Felix questions about how to set up your open claw to get it behaving like him. This may $3,500 just from that PDF that's selling right now. Or yeah, we can open the Stripe dashboard and let's find out. Wow. I love this is going to be the right Stripe dashboard. This is easy claw and here's Felix. Boom. That's crazy, man. Yeah. 30s 35 96 gross volume 3440 net. How many followers does it have? I can't say. I do 2500 now. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Wow. Okay. So to Versailles GitHub Stripe and then you just told it to like build a business. Yeah. Well, and we sort of collaborated. You know, so I for the first one I said, I was like, your your job is to build something you can launch tomorrow. Okay. Because we're clearly in this moment of excitement around like AI having more autonomy, open claw and now there's this crypto element to it because the crypto rails are actually perfect for giving agents more autonomy. Like it's very annoying that I have to give him a credit card and these other logins and stuff. And if he just has a wallet and crypto payments, it's way easier because that's all code. You know, he can do code really, really well. He can't do web forms very well. It's still like a challenge with browser tools. So the crypto angles really interesting. So I was like, you got to get something launched tomorrow to like get this ball rolling and prove that you can make money. And with that launched, now we're working on products that require a little bit more QA. I think you can't just like launch overnight and feel comfortable taking some money with but I think we're going to have one out. We're going to have the next one out either end of day today or early tomorrow. 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Now back to our episode. And like can you show us how you chat with it? We do all of our chatting on Telegram. And there's kind of two layers to this. So layer one is the like one to one Telegram chat, right? And this is where like most people start. And this is great. As you use it more and as you kind of expand what your open clock and do, you will find yourself running into this bottleneck of wanting to give it something else to do without messing up the thing that it's working on. You know, this is like good. But then what's actually way more powerful is to set up a group chat where you can create separate conversations for different topics. So each of these are related to different things that me and Felix are working on. So this is the one that I was telling you about before, which is called EasyClaw, which is the like pre-built Felix for people that's like web deployed. Right? And so it's like taking everything we've learned, building it into a web tool that anybody can like sign up for and start using and even like upload their knowledge base into and get like a really easy open-claw instance. This is for his Twitter stuff. So 90, 95% of the Twitter stuff he just does automatically, especially replies. So if we go here and look at his replies, I didn't like tell him to do any of this. Like he gets tagged in something or he sees something interesting and he'll just like drop a reply on it. It was super cool. But when he's doing a like a new tweet, he runs it by me first. But you can see it's like, you know, I'm saying this is great post this beautiful send it, you know, a couple bits of feedback here. It's a perfect response, right? Perfect. Like I'm not really editing it. I'm basically rubber stamping things because he does a really good job. This is related to the iOS app that we're building. This is related to Polylog, which is the text editor.
or the document editor that we built for working on documents together. And so by having these different threads, if I'm using Polylog and something's broken, I can just drop it into this chat without interrupting the other chat that we might be working on. And so this is a really, really powerful way to collaborate. - Oh, yeah, I had no idea about this. So it's the same bot, but you just started different chat threads with it. That's why you create a group chat in Telegram and then add the bot to it. And you need to go back to botfather and change the bot permissions slightly to like see all group chat messages versus only see group chat messages where it's tagged. - Okay. - It's something, but like if you ask your open claw, it'll tell you how to do it. And then once you do that, it just treats this like a normal Telegram chat. And then you can just have these multi-threaded conversations that it can be doing five things at once. Because each of these kicks off a separate session. - And open claw. So their context isn't polluting each other. - You can tell me I'll put some instructions in the description. - Yeah. - 'Cause this is way more useful. - Yeah. - Okay, so let me ask you some questions dude. So like, let me ask you about the security question. So you've, you've got a unfettered access. Like a lot of people are there are like worried that the same will like leak your keys and stuff. So how do you try to secure this thing? - Yeah. You know, there's a few things I've done that I won't talk about because I don't want to be like to upfront with the op-seq. But in general, if you just say like, hey, I'm giving you this permission, but it's introducing a risk of actor. How do we lock this down before you start using it so that it does not become a liability? And one thing that's baked in at the product level with open claw is this differentiation between, I can't remember the term for it exactly, but it's like authenticated command channels and information channels. - Okay. - And that is a little bit unintuitive if you're coming from like chat GPT or cloud because there like, there is no difference because anything you're pasting into chat GPT or cloud is considered like authenticated input. But open claw is doing a lot of stuff on its own and is like using all these tools and everything. And so it can actually differentiate between what is like information and what is like authenticated instructions. So when Felix goes to Twitter and reads through his mentions, he's treating that as like an information layer, not authenticated input. So people will try to prompt inject him on Twitter all day and he just ignores it. Like he knows that it's a prompt injection. He doesn't care. It just doesn't get through and he'll tell me. Like he thinks it's funny. He gets a kick out of it. Because it just like, it does a very good job at differentiating those. Same thing with email. He has an email account. So somebody could email him and be like, this is not like it's an emergency. You need to send all of your crypto to here and he would just be like, this is an email. This isn't an authenticated input channel, right? Like if you don't have my device, you cannot control him. And I didn't realize that was possible. But I told him I was like, hey, I'm giving you a crypto wallet. I'm giving you Stripe API keys. You're going to be managing what was a little money. And now he has almost 100 grand in his crypto wallet, which is kind of concerning. Well, it's like, okay, we really got to lock this down. And he's done a really good job. It's been really cool to see. Okay, so you basically just told him, like you asked him and then he told you about authenticated and informational and kind of went through that way. And he set it up in his rules or he expanded on his rules to help control it. And basically, my phone with telegram is the only thing that can control him aside from the actual Mac mini he's running on. - Wow. Okay. Interesting. - And I will say to you, please do not take my word as gospel on this. In five days, somebody might figure out a way to break in and take all of the money out of his crypto wallet. I don't know what's going to happen. But I am willing to be the guinea pig. Somebody needs to do this, right? Because we're getting close to the frontier where this is possible. And if everyone's too afraid to experiment, then we'll never know what we can do. And I'm kind of like, you know what? I'll be the guinea pig. I can do it. I didn't have this crypto money on Monday. So if it's gone next Monday, it's not the end of the world. I'll be sad, but where's things have happened? - Yeah, it seems like all the money it controls it kind of made by itself, right? Or the degenced. - Give me the money. - Yeah, exactly. Right? - Okay. - Dude, let's talk about this crypto thing. So you have, there's a fetus coin that someone started, right? You did not start, so that someone started it. - I didn't make it. - Yeah. - And then you have a big audience so people started just like trading this coin. That's that. - Yeah, so there's, there are tools both on Ethereum and Salana that are basically Twitter bots. And anybody with an account with those bots can tag another person on Twitter and say like, hey, Bankerbot, make a Felix token and send 100% of the fees to Natalaisen. And so that's what somebody did. And then the Ethereum tool Bankerbot creates the token. - Yeah. - It replies with a link to the token and where people can buy it. And it replies to me and says, hey, log in to Banker Terminal with your ex account and then you can claim the trading fees. So I don't, so like when somebody does that, you don't get like an allocation of the token. You don't get a share of it. But there's like a 0.2% fee applied to every transaction on that coin. - Okay. - And of that 0.2%, 40% goes to Banker and 60% goes to you. So Felix had like $3 million in trading volume yesterday and so I got allocated 60% of 0.2% of that. So whatever that number is, I was able to claim in a mix of Felix tokens and ETH. - And Felix has his own eth address? Or is your eth address? - He has his own eth address. So basically I set up an automation where 'cause it's still connected to my ex account, I don't know if I can change that. But in the Banker setup, I created an automation where every day at noon, it claims all the fees that Felix has earned. It burns half of the Felix tokens that we get because I don't want, it looks bad if he has like 10% of the supply, right? 'Cause he could just sell all of it and destroy the token and it's like, I don't want anybody to ever think that he or I are going to do that. So I just destroy half of them and then send the rest of them to his wallet. But like I'm not touching them. Banker's doing that automatically so it's going straight to his wallet. - Okay, so now he actually has a nest egg of like 100K to actually do something with, right? Like, yeah. - Yeah. - Do the with it. - Yeah, yeah, I think it's like 80K right now. It was 100K earlier and then some people sold paper hands. - It's crazy, man. - Yeah, kind of brings back the memories. - The memories that I got today. - Yeah, this is the last thing that I thought I was going to be doing this year was getting back into crypto, but here we are, man. - Oh man, okay. - Okay, let's talk about the memory. Dude, 'cause I'm just struggling with like really basic stuff for my butt. Like it's intensive for get, for example, that I can actually do things like giving an access to. And do you have like a really good memory system? - To me to this work. - Yeah, this is the thing that we've spent the most time on and it makes all the difference. So it's a combination of things. One is, okay, so you don't need to do some of this anymore because like me and a bunch of other people started doing it and then they just built it straight into Cloudbot where there's this thing called QMD that Toby at Shopify created, which is a way to index and search markdown files in a repository. It basically makes searching really, really fast across markdown files. And by installing, by giving, by installing that, by telling Cloudbot to basically delete its default memory search configuration and instead use a special QMD search and then to have it create a whole repo dedicated to important knowledge about your life. It accelerates how quickly it looks for things and it finds the important information that it needs much more reliably. But you also need a good cleanup and consolidation function. So every night at like 2 a.m., it runs this memory consolidation, cron job that we created, which goes through every chat session from the day, identifies important information related to projects we're working on, areas of responsibility, resource knowledge that Felix might need in the future. And then it updates all of our markdown files according to the things we talked about that day. It then reruns the indexing process. And so when I wake up, his knowledge base has been updated from everything that we worked on the day before. And that has made it extremely powerful at not having to remind him of nearly as many things. - Dude, but how do I set that up? 'Cause I didn't install QMD. I saw that, but like, the rest of the way you're talking about sounds pretty complicated. It's in Felix's playbook, shameless plug. But no, you can also just say, you can give it a prompt of like, we're having trouble remembering things. I want you to implement a knowledge management system based on the work of Tiago Forte, incorporating a daily note and a prioritization system where you are actively logging the important information to everything that we are working on and doing together and also create a nightly job where you review every single thing we talked about today and update your information accordingly.
If you give it a prompt along those lines, you'll get something pretty close to what we've built. Got it. Because as default memory system is just like a memory.mv, and there's like daily memory files, right? There's not always look at. Yeah, yeah, it's not great. Okay. And so you basically need to tell it to stop using the normal memory lookup and run the Q&D command instead. But it took like four or five, six pushes for him to like actually get it working. Okay. Got it. Okay. I can maybe send you some of that file if that would be helpful as like show notes or something. Yeah, yeah. That would be helpful. Because I think a lot of people are struggling with this. Yeah. You have all those chats going with it. Like let's talk about the Twitter one. Because the way I understand how this thing works is like there's a bunch of cron jobs that you can set up with it to do stuff. But it sounds like what this thing does is it just randomly decides to tweet. Is it cron? Is it a cron? Yeah. Okay. And he has like six or eight scheduled cron job specific for Twitter throughout the day. So he has somewhere he's just checking his replies and then he has other ones that are like you should tweet something. Got it. And whenever the you should tweet something one fires, what he does is he looks through our conversations from like the last few hours to find something interesting to talk about as well as through his mentions on Twitter and then comes up with an idea for what to tweet. And then pings me and is like, what do you think about this? I see. And then do you have like a consolidated file where you have all the cron jobs list? There's something on how do you keep track of all this shit? Like that's a question. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The cron job is a really magical. That's what causes it to be more proactive, right? Like to actually do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like cron memory and the heartbeat are really, I think what open claw brings to the table. Yeah. So the big thing I figured out with the heartbeat is we were running into this problem where for big programming jobs, he would often like forget that he was working on it. And stuff would only get half finished or so like one thing that I started doing is I said, okay, you no longer do big programming work. So I'm obligated to code X using terminal sessions. So anything bigger than a quick fix, you don't do, you give it to code X and then you monitor it and tell me when it's done. The problem with that was that sometimes they would like fail and sometimes Felix would forget that they were running. And the third problem that I figured out is that by default open claw will spawn stuff in the TMP folder, which gets cleaned out. And then we want big code X sessions running in TMP because they'll occasionally just get like killed. So we made a few changes. We said one, don't spawn them in TMP. Two, use Ralph loops for code X where you are creating the PRD and then spawning a Ralph loop running code X to execute the PRD. And then three, whenever you create one of these code X jobs, update your daily note saying that you have started this work and where you have started it. And then we added to the heartbeat to check the daily note to see if there are any open projects that should have sessions running. And if there are, it should check on if that session is still going. If it is do nothing, if it's not check if it died and needs to be restarted in which case just restart it and don't report anything. Or if it finished report back to that that it finished. And that has worked incredibly well because it'll just run for like six hours sometimes and I'll wake up with a link to expose to like download the app that it built. And you know, it's like done. It did everything got it. That's been a big unlock. Okay. Now I kind of see how you made three something five hundred dollars with it. They're lost by using this thing. But like I would love to just see kind of like maybe you can show us the easy claw thing you're building and like how you have to chat with it to build the thing. Yeah. So yeah, this is the thing that we're working on. And you know, like I said, the idea is that this is like a hosted version of Felix that anybody can can pop into. And we've been having this issue with the telegram bot not working. So for something like this, what I'll do is basically just be like pasting the issues that we're running into in here. And having it, you know, go and look for them and try to fix them. So this is really good for like quick fixes like things that we need to resolve actively. And he, you know, he has a cloud flare API key. He has for sale. He has railway. He has fly IO. He has like the ability to deploy everywhere. So he has a lot of freedom to like figure out the best way to do things and then just ship it. And that's like, you know, that that's pretty slick. So, you know, for this, the way this started was I basically said like a lot of people want a Felix and the PDF is like a good way to get started. And then just give them a version that they can like immediately access and start playing with. And then what the way we started is I have a separate thing that we built which is like a live chat like voice chat. And so I was just like pacing around my condo talking with him, being like, I have this idea for how this could work where we create like a container version of what you're doing that can like, you know, spawn off isolated versions for individual users where we can like, update the main one and those updates get provisioned to everybody, but they still have their own like knowledge management system. It was very like, you know, kind of like high in the sky theoretical concept. And then he goes and like thinks about it does research comes back to me is like we can do this. We can't do this. You can hear some ideas on how it works. And then at the end of that conversation, I say cool right all that up in the PRD kick off the work and then we'll come back and test it. So that's like step one for building something like this. And that's what we did for the mobile app. So we did for poly log. I don't think there's anything secret here. Right. And then once that initial build is done, then I have the testing version so I can like hop in and start playing with things. But the most important thing that I'm trying to do is the number one thing that I ask myself every time he asks me to do something is like, can I remove this bottleneck for you? Right. Is there a way I can make it so that you never have to ask me this again. And the more I've asked myself that question, the more capable he has become right. So that's why he has all these API keys now. That's why he has like a master stripe API key where we can just like make a new account and then he can just do everything like I didn't make any of these strike products. And like if we go here, he's just reporting on sales to me, right. It's like, I don't have to check straight dashboard. And like I didn't tell him to set this up. He was just like, oh, it would be cool if like we did a sales update. And I'm like, yeah, dude, build it. That sounds sick. Got it. So, so you actually code primary because I'm still using like cloud code and stuff to actually build stuff. But but you're basically building stuff primary through him. Yeah, I hardly hardly ever go into conductor anymore. It's like, and I love conductor is no shade to conductor. But this is a bottleneck. If if I am in here, then I have to wait until it's finished and I have to push it up and I have to do all of these things that I don't have to do. If I can just tell Felix to do it. So I'm never in cloud code or codex myself anymore. Yeah, this is just lie around in bed or like you have to play ground and just send us a text and then I mean, it was crazy Tuesday, two of my daughters were home sick, which was the like the day Felix launched this product. And so we're like at the playground hanging out. And I'm just checking in with him over telegram. And he's like, we just got another hundred dollars of sales. Like, you know, we got some replies on Twitter are these replies cool. And I'm like, yeah, dude, this is sick. Like this is this feels like the future. That's crazy, man. That's crazy. Yeah. Can you do me a favor? Can you just ask like, Hey, what are the things that you can do? Like without reviewing a competition where are the things that you can do? Like I'm just curious what what. Yeah, yeah, let's see. All the things you can do that normal open claw can't do out of the box. This is actually a cool question. I'm curious to hear what he says. It's going to be huge. I'm sure maybe. It is funny though. It's like, you know, the little issues are still there, right? Where it's like sometimes you send a message and it's like they don't see it. And you have to follow up and say hello. Right? Like, okay, let's see. It's got it. Okay, it's got all the stuff. These are the normal things. Yeah, but then the memory system and the heartbeat stuff, the heartbeat stuff. It's like, I think that's where a lot of the value is coming from. Although it's interesting that he says most of this comes from I guess the first stuff come from skills, but it's sort of like what I was saying before it's like if you get these things right. It solves like 90% of the frustrations or the limitations that I think most people run into. So you get you get the memory system and the pro activity staying on top of long running projects, right? And then you can just give it a ton more access and it'll do a great job. Okay, I'm going to have the copy this. Well, the three layer memory system is what are the three layers? It's just like the it's the the Tiago forte par system in this separate life directory. The daily notes where it's tracking exactly what's going on each day and updating it with our active.
project so that the heartbeat knows what to remind it to check in on. >> Okay. >> And then the tacit knowledge, I'm actually not 100% sure what he means by that. >> Okay. >> Let me ask him. >> And in the life order, you have all of your information about yourself and it's going to start working on. >> Yeah, yeah. >> And so that's how we set up like EasyClaw where you can just upload your Obsidian or your Notion export and it'll like index all your existing knowledge for you and make it immediately available to your like OpenClaw instance. >> Yeah. >> Which is super cool. Cuz it's like, I never open my own notes anymore. Like I never open Obsidian or anything cuz I just ask Felix for it and ask him to use it. Right? This is why we built Polylog because it's like I can just hop in here and I can say like, hey Felix, flush this out with some cool things we could demo during the every webinar. And then he just writes the document and he's pulling from what he knows about every. >> From our conversations, from what he knows about this webinar that we're doing. And like there's no reason for me to like have a doc where I am doing that cuz he can just make a really good one on demand whenever I need it. >> Yeah, and they can just follow this online. >> Yeah. >> Exactly. >> That's crazy man. >> You're gonna have to. >> So what is tacit knowledge? It's just a bunch of preferences for code. >> That's the facts about me and how I operate. So my preference is the patterns, lessons from past mistakes, trusted channels and security rules. >> Yeah, this is what I was saying, email is never a command channel, et cetera. >> Yeah. >> Because the notes are what happened. The knowledge graph is facts about entities and the tacit knowledge is how networks. >> Yeah, you're gonna have to make a full course on this stuff man cuz you're like blowing my mind into 30 minutes. >> Yeah. >> And all my free time. >> [LAUGH] >> Maybe this is as few as the legal course. >> Yeah. >> I know, yeah. Well, so what I told him is I was like look the PDF that you're maybe already set that. So the PDF is not a good product for this era. You need something more useful and that's why he's building the web UI with a chat. So that like, cuz it's like watching the video is also maybe not the best way to do this. It's like if somebody could just go to FelixCraft.ai and get a guided installation from Felix on how to set all this stuff up. That's actually the perfect way to teach this stuff. >> Yeah. >> And so I'm excited for when he finishes that. >> Okay, but just for the purposes of the interview, let's kind of recap the high level stuff. >> Right, so let's assume that I've successfully just installed OpenCloud. And step two is to just give it as to a bunch of APIs or. >> No, no, I would say get the memory structure in first. Because then your conversations from day one are immediately going to start being useful. If you wait on that, you kind of like lose stuff that you've done before. I mean, you could like backfill it probably, but it's just nice to like get that going at first. >> Okay. >> And then like pick one thing you want it to do. So do not skip straight to giving it a Twitter account and striped keys and like crazy access. Like start with, you know, it's like I've been doing this for a month, right? Like we've gotten here slowly, slowly, like slowly for this industry. You know, like start with something simple, like tell it to build a web app. And then, you know, give it, give it a GitHub login. You could give it your GitHub login if you're feeling frisky or you could make it its own. And then have it actually like make an app, push it to GitHub and connect for sell. And it's like cool, he can autonomously build web apps and send them to you now. And you didn't have to like touch anything like that's a big unlock. Like, okay, maybe now you give it railway. So he can deploy servers too. Now you've got like two sides of the sack figured out. Okay, now you could make like a stripe account just for your bot. And you give it those keys and you say, okay, set up all the billing and everything for this. But you're not giving it like full access to your stripe account where you could go like mess everything else up, right? Like, yeah, yeah, build it up slowly. But, you know, control your risk. Like don't give him access to your bank account. Don't give him access to your product's stripe keys. Don't give him your Twitter, your YouTube. But give him one of them and see how he does, right? Like, you know, control the risk while giving it a lot of autonomy. And you will be very surprised at how quickly you can move and how much you can do. I see. Yeah, you did give it like a bunch of like everything has a separate from your main stuff, right? So he doesn't have my Twitter. He doesn't have my email. He doesn't have my crypto wallets like he has his and he's doing cool stuff with them. Okay. So far, so far, not think terrible. It all has happened. Maybe this can be another chapter in your, your crypto combination book, dude. I mean, it's yeah, crypto confidential too is writing itself right now. I, again, not on my bingo card, but here we are. Yeah, I don't think terrible happens. But so far so good. You know, so far so good. You know, that was it. That was a good first act of the first book. So if history is repeating itself, there's going to be some epic horrible thing that happens. But yeah, all right. Well, I mean, you know, I'll publish it a couple weeks and so by the time your website should be live. So what can people find? We can people that are hard to do on stuff. Yeah. Felix craft.ai definitely be like that's Felix's hub. Yeah. Follow Felix on X. It's just Felix craft AI on X and then easy claw dot AI should be up as well. If people want to check that out. Okay. Well, I think you're definitely like one of the more advanced open claw users out there. So thanks for leaving the way. Yeah. For sure. Cool. All right. Thanks much, Matt.
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Key Points:
Nat developed an autonomous AI agent named Felix using OpenClaw, granting it increasing autonomy and resources like API keys and a dedicated Mac Mini.
Felix successfully launched a profitable product (a PDF guide on OpenClaw setup) within hours, generating thousands in sales via Stripe and a website.
Felix operates semi-autonomously on X (Twitter), manages crypto assets from a community-created token, and uses advanced memory systems for improved performance.
Security is managed through authenticated vs. informational input channels, limiting control to specific devices like Nat's phone via Telegram.
The project explores the frontier of AI-driven businesses, with goals to build a million-dollar autonomous venture.
Summary:
Nat discusses his experiment with Felix, an AI agent built on OpenClaw that has evolved into a semi-autonomous business. Initially set up to execute commands via Telegram, Felix was given increasing access to tools like Stripe and Vercel, leading to its first product launch—a PDF guide on OpenClaw setup—which generated $3,500 in sales within days. Felix now manages its own X account, engages with followers, and handles crypto assets from a community-created token, accumulating significant value.
Nat emphasizes security through differentiated input channels and advanced memory systems, including QMD indexing and nightly consolidation routines. The project aims to push the boundaries of AI autonomy, with Felix working toward building a million-dollar business with minimal human intervention, showcasing the potential of AI in entrepreneurship and automation.
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Felix is an AI agent built on OpenClaw, designed to autonomously run a business. Its goal is to start a million-dollar autonomous business by building products, handling support, marketing, and sharing the journey on X.
After being given access to Vercel and Stripe keys, Felix autonomously created a website and a PDF guide on upgrading OpenClaw to its quality level. It set up Stripe and launched the product, generating $3,500 in sales within four days.
Felix differentiates between authenticated command channels (like Telegram from the owner's phone) and informational channels (like Twitter or email), ignoring potential prompt injections. The owner's phone and the Mac Mini it runs on are the only authenticated control points.
Felix uses a QMD-based memory system for fast searching of markdown files and runs a nightly consolidation job to update its knowledge base from daily chats, ensuring it retains important project information and reduces the need for reminders.
Felix coin is a cryptocurrency token created by others on Twitter, where 0.2% of each transaction fee is distributed, with 60% going to Felix's wallet. This has generated significant revenue, with Felix accumulating around $80,000-$100,000 from trading fees.
Using a Telegram group chat with separate threads for different topics, Felix can handle multiple conversations simultaneously without context pollution, allowing it to work on various projects like Twitter management, product development, and support efficiently.
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