From Small Town Roots to Big Career Wins: A Candid Chat with John

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I also want to take a moment to acknowledge the amazing people behind the scenes, who help make this look and sound great, handling our audio today, not just today, every time. Is Irish? Yo, hello! And working the camera is Marge. Hello ladies. Hi. Well yeah, so they are, they may be behind the scenes, but they're a big part of making this podcast happen, so I just want to acknowledge their presence, and you might not see them much, but every day, every time, and every now and then they'll, you'll definitely hear them, especially when they drop a few side comments here and there. Yeah, Irish, right? So if you hear a voice from off camera, that's probably them joining on the fun. So yeah, any who, continuing on, our guest for today, for today's episode is one of the dedicated teachers from Brighture, but he's not just a teacher, he's much more than that, and that's exactly what we'll be diving into today's conversation. So without further ado, let's welcome John. Hey. Hello. Hello. Thank you for having me here. Yes, of course, everyone is here. Yeah, so are you John? Well, if I'm completely honest, I'm extremely nervous right now. It's been a long time since I've had an interview or a podcast, so my nerves are getting me. It's all right. I mean, it's a normal, and I mean, it's a normal feeling, but you know, you're good. Right. Yes. So for those people who don't know this guy, could you please introduce yourself, let us know who you are. Hello, I'm Arbian John. My friends and family call me Bien, which means, which is Spanish for, which means good in Spanish, although technically I wouldn't say I'm exactly that good, but yeah, but in the office, people call me John, and yeah, that name stuck with me here. So I think that's all you need to know. Oh, yeah, I mean, aside from teaching as other than teaching, I'm also part of the video production team. So in some videos, I'm also behind the scenes. And other than that, I'm also part of the IT team here in Brighture, which started late last October here. And no, longer than that. And I've been tasked to handle software testing. So there are plans for me to learn how to code and program, but it's been a difficult journey, but I'm still really willing to learn. So yeah, just like I said, he's not just a teacher in Brighture, he's doing, he's an all-rounder, I guess, yes. Well, John, yeah, who is John? Where are you from, by the way? Well, let's start from the very beginning, of course. So from the middle. I was born and raised in a province called Leyde, and specifically in Ormok, that's the nearest city from our town. But my hometown is called Merida, like the Disney Princess. So that's why people treat me as Disney Princess as well. Yeah. So yeah, I grew up in an extended family. We lived with my our grandmother until 2019. She passed away at 2019. But it did not feel like an extended family, because my father passed away when I was still 10 years old. So it still felt complete for some reason. My grandmother sort of substituted as our father. So I grew up in a household full of women, except for my older brother. So that's why I would say I'm particularly close with women more so than men. So if you know what this, I have a lot of female friends, and I talk, it's easier for me to communicate with women rather than men. Even if they're not straight, it still feels, it makes me uncomfortable in a way. So that's where it all began, from the small town of Merida. Well, I can relate to that. You know, talking to women is more comfortable with me. Right. Talking to men. Yeah, but so tell me more, tell us more about your life in Leyte, especially when you were a child. Oh, it was very boring. Have you have you tried living or staying in a province? Yeah, I, I, I, I was very quiet, right? It's deadly silent. And I mean, the province here in Cebu, I wouldn't say it's not different as quiet as the province back in Leyte. Maybe our Japanese listeners would can relate to this one. I think their problem, our province is the same as their what do you call that? What do they call them? Refectures or no, no, no, the side, to the countryside. Yeah, I'm sad. Okay. Quiet, you know, simple, simple living like that. It's so quiet to the point that even even small changes, like for example, we recently got a 7/11 store convenience store and we celebrated so much like it's a mall. So, okay. Yeah, it's very underdeveloped and you know, it's quite neighborhood. Everyone knows each other except for me. I somehow was raised in a way that I don't know who my neighbors are. Sorry, sorry to cut you off. For those who are not familiar with the Philippine geography. So where is Leyte? Leyte is maybe on the, not maybe it's in the north eastern north eastern part of Cebu, not different island, but north eastern part. It's facing the Pacific Ocean. Yes. But my town is facing Cebu, the western side, so it's in the western side of Leyte. So it's purely a country side. Yes. Moving on. Yeah, moving on, continue. Hey, where was hi? I mean, yeah, side. You didn't know your neighbors. Yeah, I don't know who my neighbors are, which is a pretty bad thing if you're a Filipino because I think it's customary for people to know each other here. If you would not know who your neighbor is, people would think that you're not part of the society, not part of the community or you're trying to, you know, be, you're sort of a black sheep in the community, but just in the family. So, and I think it's getting more common, that type of behavior where we don't really necessarily know our neighbor. It's getting more common now that in the presence of social media, where there's less, you know, community, what do you call that? Yeah, community social settings. There's less of that. So there's fewer chances of getting to know one another as well. So, and every time I join reunions, which I hate because my mom's the talkative one. She knows everyone. She knows how to ask questions. So she's always the, you know, what do you call that? You know, social butterfly. That's it. And I on the other hand is the opposite of that. So I was always on the corner and I hate it. I hate being in the corner, but I don't know how to overcome it. Yeah. But surprisingly, though, when it comes to teaching or when it, when I do podcasts, when I do reporting, people think I'm not, people think I'm sociable for some reason. I think because I present myself as talkative. No, because that's part of our job. It depends on the topic, especially if there's a topic given. So I'm able to, same as Sandra's interview less of podcasts less time. I'm sort of act like that. The the situation, you know, brings out the, the sociable it is the sociable, sociable side of me. Yeah. So that's extravert side of you. And my school days were pretty random. Like, I mean, not that random because I was always the typical poster child. I always get high honors, especially in my elementary days. But which is weird enough because people recognize the biggest award you'll get is if you ever join the final graduation day, not the moving up ceremony. It's not moving up from grade 1 to grade 2, but the final elementary graduation day. People consider as the biggest, of course, celebration there is. And I've been an honors student from Kinder to grade 5, but when it came to the biggest celebration of all in your elementary days, I wasn't able to achieve. I wasn't part of the honors. So which was disappointing. And it became a habit in my secondary school. It was sort of like that as well. From grade 7 to grade 11, it was an honors student, but grade 12, I wasn't. So I don't know. I feel like I wasn't. There were a lot of factors. And especially when it comes to elementary schools, because we have a very tight-knit neighborhood. Everyone knows each other. And being someone that isn't sociable, people have perceptions. And it can affect your grades. I mean, people might, you know, there might be subtractulations. This is just my theory, but I think it's an open secret to everyone. Tendency is people, even if you're smarter, but if your family has a huge connection in the community, like your daughter, my class mate, no, I'm not going to name this, but let's just say this person is a daughter of a politician. So chances are she's going to get, you know, the top spot more than you do. Yeah. Do you have you? Is it just my town? Or is it elsewhere? Does it happen elsewhere? Well, in my experience, if I would say, I'm probably the part of the other person. Oh, yeah. But yes, but it's undeniable. So that I'm also you in the academic part. So there is nothing to contest. So yes. Yeah. But I think there's also a fair fight. Because in a way, they don't just give it to you. If, of course, the grades will show. Your performance will show. But chances are if you are, for example, you and your other classmate, you have your both smart, but it boils down to who has a better family background. Right. So I guess that's what happened. And also I got lazy because my family as well in my father's side, my father when he was still alive, he was always proud of me and my academics. Compared to my other siblings, they have their own set of accolades. But in my case, I was always better at school than they are. And he would always brag about it. And at that time, of course, it as a child, it makes you proud as well, boastful even. And then I realized as I grew up when my father died, there's nothing else about me. Like, I have no identity other than this being the smart kid in my family. My brother was always the, he was friendly, the friendliest among us siblings. So he always got along. So even if he did not score this high, he always sort of gets along more with my relatives than I was. And it felt, I felt insecure with that because I'd rather be friendly than being the smart kid. Be good. It's more love. Yeah. From people. To get more appreciated. And then so I felt loan sum. And so I started of, you know, steering away from being the smart kid. So I started, you know, being what do you call the opposite of punctual, punctual. Yeah. And always tardy. I've always, I do not submit my assignments, homeworks, projects on time, or sometimes I don't even submit at all. He became a rebel. Yeah. But in a way, it doesn't mean that I wasn't learning. I would say I'm learning more so than some people. I mean, it's just that the projects that are were given to us, it's not my, my, it's not to my advantage. Yeah. For example, the project that the subject is English, but we are given a homework to draw something. And I'm not an artist. So it demotivates me to submit work at all. So yeah, this is what happened. Yeah, but always been a great writer, even when I was younger. I have a way of words, even in college. It always surprises me every time I submit something. Even when I submit it late, I always get the highest, not always, but most of the time there have been like surprising times where I get the highest scores, one of the highest scores, or even the highest. For example, there's this one output that we were asked to write a term paper about the life and works of result, who is our national hero and not officially though. We have a story in here. Okay, so we were asked to write that a term paper and there were partners. We were asked to choose a partner. And I was late or absent probably during the assignment, the signing of partners. So I was given a choice whether to choose a partner from a different, what do you call that block? Subject section, classroom difference students, but same subject. So I was asked to choose a partner there, which is difficult, or I would rather do it solo. So I did it solo out of compared to my other classmates, but somehow I got the perfect score for some reason. And then there was another time, not for me, I work better when I'm alone. Right. Yeah. Right. But it's a case to case basis, depending on the project. There are projects where, for example, writing, which I'm good at. So I would rather do it solo. But if it's a group project like an art project, a science project, I'd rather depend on someone else. Let's do all the work. And I'll do the presentation. Yeah. So yeah, there have been a lot of moments in me not to be a braggart about it, but for instance, people, when in college, for Filipinos, we're kind of hesitant to write an output that is too sexual, too vulgar. There's a lot of profanity. We always have to make sure that we get the typical correct answer, rather than, you know, choose the devil's advocate. So there was this one time where we, it's literature criticism, since I'm an English major. So we were asked to criticize a literary paper. So this project, we were asked to analyze this poem called Fast Gas. I forgot who the poet is. But the topic, the main topic is the philosophy was about Zigman Freud. I don't know. It's that how you pronounce his name. Simon Simon Freud. And knowing him, he can be sexually, and he's interpretations about dreams. So when my classmates were playing safe, they were writing about, oh, this is my interpretation of the poem. And I was the only one who was, I would say at the time, bold enough to say that, oh, this poem is about sex. And my grammar wasn't exactly great, but the professor gave me the highest score because I was the one who was honest enough to share what I think about the poem. So yeah, those were some moments. That's why in the future, I would want to become like a novel writer. I'm just too lazy to finish anything. So yeah, that's that's pretty much behalf of my life. That's a lot actually. That was just the introduction. A lot of achievements right there. Yeah. Yeah. And then so basically you've lived like, you know, maybe the different sides of life, you know, you've lived some, how can I say that like negative part of life and then the more positive, which is the achievements and all. Now that you're already an adult, how did that, how did those things that happened in the past, you know, shaped me, yeah, shaped you and help you out as an adult? Definitely a lot. I wouldn't discredit it. I mean, my, I still have bits of me from the past, which I'm thankful for because if not for, you know, I was known as the silent kid, the most polite kid. And so I would just exactly say I'm the opposite of that now. But if I had been raised differently, I would say I would be, I wouldn't be a, I wouldn't, what you say, I mean, it's difficult to explain. But because of those qualities, it made me reach the best version of who I am. And my younger self is completely different from who I am right now. Yeah. My mom was definitely disappointed when I first started, when I've moved here in Sebu. I'm sure you guys noticed it when I first year I was in here. I used to go to parties a lot. I go to pubs And let's keep it between us, but there were moments where I worked while I was drunk I have been tipsy a bit, but you know that they can listen to me Don't follow, but there were times, there were times, but it wasn't that it affected the work Actually, I would say it helped me more. I got some ego boost and motivation due to alcohol talking But yeah, and I was my mom was really surprised But the teachers don't, okay, I don't But my mom was really disappointed at the time And it even reached the point where I was living with my brother here in Sebu It even reached the point where they asked me to move out of his place Because of my bad habits at the time, I've definitely made a lot of fear weathered friends And it was a time where it was a bad time, but I don't look at it like now as if Oh, I don't want it to happen, if I could change my past, I would skip that part Not like that, I would still want to go through it because if not for those bad things as well I wouldn't be able to find the balance because that being in my childhood I was very silent I only have few words, but because of that bad experience, the drinking habit I gained some confidence, I'm able to socialize a little bit more than my younger self would have So I'm still thankful for that event in my life Because experience is the best teacher, so being able to experience that, then it taught you something and made you who you are right now And it's really good that you recognize and you realize that those things were actually not good And you're trying to make yourself better I actually hate the, I used to hate the motto of that expression, experiences the best teacher before college When I was still in college, because I was thinking like, who would want to hire me if I have no experience after I graduate And I feel like you can learn things, you know, by theory You can have a lot of things and you'd be better at everyone that someone who had more experience But now that I've worked in Brighture and having gone through different roles in the company, I realized that experience truly is the best teacher Because when I started here, I mean to my students from my first year that I was here, I was that good I used to struggle delivering a DC class I couldn't handle a conversation when I started here, and I'm surprised I even lasted this long But if I were to compare myself from the first year that I was here, Brighture is my first job and I understandably You can tell why I wasn't that good I had no experience, completely absent at all And so, if I were to compare now, I would say I can handle classes better, I can do small talk with my students well And the funny thing is, I noticed a pattern, first year when I was, first year here working as a teacher, struggle Second year, there were some improvements, and then third year, of course, I would say I can maintain a good learning environment Then the second year that I was in here, I was also tasked in the VPT or video production team It was also a struggle in the first year, and then as the years went by, I've gotten better And now, same thing with the IT task, software testing, I couldn't understand a thing Even now, because I'm still within the first year range There have been some many moments where, for example, IZL or J up members of the IT team They don't really, most of them, or they don't have a lot of teaching experience So, I could draw comparisons, being a teacher, how am I going to teach unfamiliar terms to somebody who's new to something And they don't have that So when I joined the IT team, it was such a struggle Because the way they teach me is, for example, they would say something like, "Oh, I already pushed this fix to the get to production And at the time, I couldn't understand what do you mean by this? There was no first step, second step So, even now, now I can understand them, I can understand what the server is, I can understand what is get pull, what is a get push But there's still a lot of things that I encounter that is a struggle Right now, they're talking about creating, going to using another server or something And I couldn't catch up So, but I think it's the same for everything, learning a language, for example, French, I would say it's difficult But because I haven't started it, but eventually if I do try to start it, I would say it's pretty easy It's the same thing with IPA, before college, I would think whenever I see the symbols The symbols we use in our classes, right, the PP classes You wouldn't know what it is, you think it's difficult, but once you learn it, it's very basic So, I think that's my mindset now, moving forward in the future, I always try to see it's always going to be difficult only in the first But once you get past that, you know, hesitancy or that nervous feeling, that, "Oh, I probably can't do it" Once you get past that, you'd realize that, "Oh, things are actually easy if you motivate yourself or if you're determined to" You just have to push yourself And also, work hard Right? Yeah, because if you're just going to be lazy and all, you're not going to achieve anything in life Right? So, I'm typically the one that's always hesitant, trying new things And because of Breitcher, it's sort of not just at work, but outside of work as well Like, for example, I don't know how to swim, still don't, by the way I was given a chance to do free diving And the word itself, of course, involves a lot of like, "See, marine life, whatever" And you would think you'd learn how to swim And I, things, the personality I gained from Breitcher, I grabbed the chance, I grabbed the opportunity to free dive And surprisingly, it was scary a bit at first, but then it was fun It was fun, I still don't know how to swim, but yeah, the diving part was fun enough It was a fun experience, and I do it again And also, the world down there, it's just so amazing Actually not, it was very dark and scary Maybe you dove in the shallow part Not in the best part I probably reach only 3 meters Only that, but yeah, I think I got, I got why people who don't try extreme sports I get why we are always like, "Why do you want to do that? Why do you want to risk your life doing that?" I mean, it can be easily avoided I hear stories on TikTok a lot about cave, what do you call that? Sort of like kiking, but just in caves, where are you? Caving, yeah, I guess Caving exploring Yeah, but there's a specific word, it's at the tip of my tongue But they go into specific like, very narrow, very enclosed You can only move your hand probably, that kind of small caves Keep crawling? Yeah, probably that So, it sounds extreme, sounds stupid, why would you do it? But to them, I would say it's easy, it's fun Spillunking, caving, or spillunking I guess, yeah, that's it Yeah, but I wouldn't do that I wouldn't, not that extreme yet But now I'm starting to understand why people do things that are extreme And I don't really judge them harshly anymore compared to before No, because I'm feeling, I mean, the adrenaline that you can feel if you're doing something that extreme I think it's the same as taking like drugs, you know, the adrenaline that you feel every time you put yourself into those types of situations We know that it's we, I'm not part of them, they know that they are what do you call that? In grave danger, but then surviving those circumstances would make them feel really great Right, yeah I know a lot of people who do that and same as you, I don't understand I tried going with that them and all I gained were muscle cramps, sore muscles and all that. And so yeah, but I tried to understand them, I'd get them. I get why, yeah. But these are very expensive hobbies. Yeah. That too. So I'm always back to like, well, what I'm doing now is instead of going to the gym, I just walk to work. So what kind of extreme sport would you do? Oh, extreme sport. Yeah. I wouldn't be caught dead doing anything extreme. But in terms of sport though, you wouldn't, if you look at me, you wouldn't think I'd do it. But I've had experience joining Taekwondo. Oh. Yeah. I was. And it's mainly because I was following my brother's footsteps because that's what I was again, going back to my childhood. I was always insecure with my older brother. He's always known by everyone. So I was always following his footsteps. So instead of making a name for myself, I was always just copy a copy-pasting what he does. So part of that was his interest in Taekwondo. And he also wants to be a soldier. So there was also a time where I joined. We call it C-A-T. It's for high school. It's citizens army training. So it's like you're being like drafting to, of course, become a soldier. So in college, it's called ROTC. Is there something, officer training, something? I did not join it in college, but in high school, I was part of, I was a C-A-T officer, so which is a big deal for some reason. And actually, C-A-T in general is banned here. Banned in public schools due to hazing issues. But in my private school, we did not have any hazing at all. I mean, if we had one, it wasn't extreme. So just some drills here and there. So yeah, if you look at me, I'm very skinny. And you would not think that I'd join in such kind of sport. And I'm very feminine in a way. So it's not a sport you typically see me in. And I'm, you would, I, people thought that I would join in more like strategic sports, like chess. I have tried it, but I had an embarrassing situation once. Do you want to listen about it? There was this tryouts, of course, like who to assess your level. And for some reason, they paired me with a grandmaster. I know how the, the, the, the pieces work. I know that you have to move the pond this way, the horse this way. But that's all there is. And I don't know that techniques, the, the, how many moves are, you know, there are, there are a lot to you, surprisingly. And in my first game ever, again, I was paired with this grandmaster and because people think I'm, I know, I, because I told them that I know how to move the pieces. So they paired me with this guy. And you know what? I lost in three moves. So it wasn't embarrassing and I did not try out again ever. Yeah. So that's that. It was, it killed my dreams. It, in three moves, three moves killed my dreams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you get when you pretend that you know something, even if you don't, even if you don't. So you get it. Yeah. In three moves. Yeah. So yeah, now I do play some strategy games and just, you know, PC games, but not, not so much with sports anymore. Yeah. Well, going back to life, John's life. So now that you are basically how many years have you been working in bridge? Almost four years. Almost four years, right? So what can we expect from John in the future? Let's say maybe five years from now. I don't, there's, there's, I don't, maybe, of course, I see a vision where I'm still working in Brighture. I mean, it's not, it's not really a dead end or something. I mean, but also I'm at the same time, I'm also see a feature where I'm able to adapt my skills like the IT skills that I've learned from Brighture, which I'm grateful for the opportunity, might be able to use that in like future careers as well. But definitely I don't have this one thing about me. I don't really have a clear goal in life. So the only clear goal that I have is a pretty grim actually. I want to die young. What? Yes. And it also goes back to my childhood because I grew up in an extended family with a grandmother who was very ailing and it reached a point where we, she was already bedridden and she had, we were around, you know, we were a family, but I can feel her loneliness. It's, it's because growing up in that situation, it made me not want to grow up alone. So for a long part of my life, before my partner, I was always thinking that I'd rather die young by an accident, by a painless death or I, of course, I don't recommend, I don't wish suicide to anyone. So it's always that my thinking that, oh, I hope I don't wake up tomorrow. But it doesn't mean that I want to die. It's just that I, whenever I recall about my grandma's life, she had, she lived a long life, but the later, the later, the ends of her life was, was it, it wasn't, it wasn't fulfilling. I would say like she's done so much, but to only end up in a bed that's, that's very small and I wouldn't wish it to anyone. So I would especially for myself. So that's why this is probably the only goal that I have. I don't, I don't really care about, I'm not very particular with money yet. It's starting to grow on me, like I start to obsess about my budgets, my very particular especially when it comes to medical bills now. But it wasn't, I don't have a clear goal even now. As long as I enjoy my life and that's it. But definitely, yeah, the skills that I gained from Bighture, I don't take it for granted. I believe that it's so useful. It's a weird thing to say because the roles I have are very different from each other. Teaching is different from editing. Yeah, the thing is different from self-retesting, completely different positions in life. And normally when, when we want to do something, we always try out something that is relevant to our main role. Same thing when we master, when we get a master's degree, it's always similar to our bachelor's degree. So in my case, I'm open to, I open my windows to a lot. I don't put my eggs in one basket at all. So yeah, I just love dusting the waters and that's it. That's really good. And I like that you touch about financial stuff because I think everybody should learn how to manage your finances and not do a certain point in your life or a certain age. But you should start as soon as you are holding some coins. Right. Yeah, and that's one thing that I regret also in my life. Just like you, you just spend whatever for whatever. And yeah, and I'm glad that you are now learning how to manage your finances. Financial literacy here in the Philippines is so low. So I did not learn any of these things. And I did not know what a mortgage was. I don't know what, what do you call that equity. I forgot. I even forgot now. But I recently moved to a new condo unit. And although my partner handles all the finances, but I was so surprised that I did not know a lot of the terms that were used. So it made me feel dumb because again, these things, they don't teach you this in college, in the Philippines. I'm not sure in other countries though. So it sort of makes you feel stupid to some extent. And yeah, I do try now to learn a lot as much as I can. But no, going back to John again. Sorry. No, John, if you're going to talk to your younger self, what would you tell him? Oh, to just embrace. I mean, even my younger self knows this. It's not something that I should tell my younger self because of my younger self. It's a master at this. To always embrace things, whether it's a bad thing or not, because I know I always have this mindset that despite it being bad, there's always a solution for some reason. Although I'm not very religious. I used to be, I was an outter boy for some time. I've done so many things. Oh my god, I was an outter boy and I wasn't very religious. I sort of grew that part of me. But I sort of believe in a destiny. in a way, because I've had experience where, for example, in college, I thought I'd fail at all because I haven't submitted that single output. For some reason, I was able to, you know, graduate and even get a Latin honor for it. And, you know, looking back, I can imagine the struggle, but then for some reason I survived. I don't even remember how I survived what, what, what process I did, what did I do to overcome this. I don't think of that anymore because I always have this thing that I always think that, oh, this too shall pass, the, the expression, this too shall pass. It's always on my mind. But I don't, of course, as well, I don't let it get in my way of, um, that, that, get in the way of doing hard work. Because if you have that mindset, like, oh, everything will be fine. Tendency is you'd be lazy as well. Like, I won't, I won't do this work. I won't do as much because everything's going to be fine. I don't, I always try to keep a balance as well. Like, oh, even though everything's going to be fine, you always have to think about doing your best as well. So, it's always a balance between those things. So, yeah, I'm proud of my younger self for knowing that already. I had an old soul, basically. Well, that's good. Knowing that, you know, it's really difficult to, um, I mean, adult, adult life is, you know, so fucked up sometimes, right? And we can just go back to, um, our childhood and how we lived our childhood. And yeah. So that's why I asked that question. And thank you, John, for sharing a lot. You just said, they like, you've shared so much about yourself. And thank you for opening up. And yeah, good luck to whatever ventures or whatever, um, aspirations you have in life. Yes. All right. And, yeah. And for our listeners, if you like our content today, please hit subscribe and follow us on our social media. And remember your, what was that earlier? Your, your discount. 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