Friendship Lore | 78

So, like, whatever happened to, hello, how are you? My name is. That was rude of us. We were rude. I'm so sorry. I think it's, like, time for a lore drop. I think it's time. No, no, no. Lore drop. I think it's time to get back to basics. Yeah. What were you like as a child? What were you like as a person in their early 20s? MS, spoiler alert. Well, actually, every stage of my life. There's one consistent thing. So, we're going to just spend a little time, let you get to know us. Yeah, a little bit of, like, nostalgia bait. Like, what kind of, what was your favorite movie as a child? Yeah, all the good stuff. Clipboard kid, dance background. And you'll know who is who on that one. Yeah, yeah. Pop quiz. Who's who? Who's who? Tell us. Let us know in the comments. All right, let's get into it. Like, let's get to know each other on the mic. Okay. Okay. Oh, wait. It's so much comtier when you do it with your nails. Yeah. And then my little stubs. It's really tough. No, no. I'm not touching. Are you looking for a safe space for your secret celebrity opinion? Do you need someone who understands your latest internet obsession? We are a pair of decade-long best friends who love to fuss. And discuss. All things pop culture. We're your first stop after that TMZ push notification. From Higher Ground Audio, I'm Peyton Dix. And I'm Hunter Harris. And this is Let Me Say This. Let me say this. Let me say this. And I've been saying it. Let me say this. Let me say this. Let me say this. Okay. Okay, so tell me. What were you like? I have so many baby photos if you go to my phone that are so funny. They all tell a story. They do. And it's the same story. Like, here she fucking go. That's like my energy as a child. And as an adult, I was like, I think I'm not even, I'm not trying to be annoying when I say this, but I actually think I've been the same since I was a kid. Like, I came out loud. I actually came out with joy. Jaundice, by the way. That's actually how I came out. And my mom, who's beautiful, was like, what the hell is this? I literally turned to the doctor and was like, that's not mine. Have you seen me? And I came out like, I earned my beauty. But I was just like a very yes and kind of child. Oh, wow. From birth a little bit. But what about you? What was your like general childhood vibe? Honestly, it's the same. I'm going to say, yes, I'm the exact same. I am literally the exact same. To the point where at a wedding a couple years ago, this person I hadn't spoken to since like literally high school graduation was like, huh, you're kind of the exact same person. And I was like, and actually, thank you so much. I think you meant it as like a little bit of a drag. But I was like, nope, I needed that. No, I was exact same. I think I had maybe a little bit more joie de vivre as a child. And say more. I think I was a little bit more, like there's so many photos of me being like so expressive. And I think sometimes I'm that way. But then sometimes I feel like I'm not very expressive. But then someone is like, I could tell you didn't like that. And I'm like, okay, well, sorry. Just kidding. And I'm going to cut to insert photo of Hunter at like, it was like Easter or something. You're at church. And the way you're looking at the camera like with your little glasses. You're like country glasses, by the way. They're like LED glasses. And you're like, that was on Easter. That was a piano recital. And I'm like, I think it was my mom or auntie took a photo of me. And I looked. I looked dead ass. Like, I don't want to be here. I don't want to do this. I'm not ready. Like, I stayed up all night practicing. And I know that I'm not ready. It's the funniest face I've ever seen on Hunter. I've seen it. And I see it frequently. I know that look. I know the London look. I know the one. It's truly like so serious. Okay. What were your, who's your best friend growing up? I guess it depends. Well, Kayla, who obviously, you know, Kayla and Evan have been my best friends for like since seventh grade, eighth grade. But then I had like, you know, childhood. I had friends that were, can, oh wait, I was like, can I say people's government names here? I don't know. What's the rule on that? You tell me. It's our podcast. I guess we should decide. But I had this one friend that was like my ride or die in like middle school. And I feel like I thought my middle school, I have one friend from middle school, Cameron Taylor, shout out to you. But everyone else, I just kind of stopped becoming friends. When you go to high school, it just felt like so different, which is weird because my middle school is, we got great grades. I graduated in feelings. It was like really small. It was vibes only up in there. That's so LA. Oh my God. Called the Willis Community School. Shout out to the Willis Community School. It was like, your aura today is like, you get an A. I love LA. I love LA. And I loved so many teachers there. It was a great place. But then I kind of didn't really keep in contact with a lot of those people. But my high school best friends were two very chaotic, beautiful black women that are under investigation right now. Not by the FBI, but we love them. Who are your besties? My first best friend was this girl, Ashton, and my entire family hated her. Cool name. Oh. Yeah. She had red hair, still does have red hair. She's MAGA now. What can you do? But no, my entire family hated her, even to the point where like my grandma would, whenever I was like, you know, we're just like catching up talking and she's like, are you still friends with that little redhead, Ashton? Red like a slug. Like, no, they all hated Ashton. And I get it because one time we were like, our moms. We're both like young, divorced women. We had a carpool to school together. And one time she asked like, why are you going to Las Vegas? How can you afford that? And my mom almost pulled the car over and said, excuse me, what are you talking about? Truly was like, and I have to say that again because I don't think I caught that. Crazy. And then my best friend was just like other best friends in middle school that I'm not super close to. I was very close to my friend, Steven, who I'm still really good friends with and we were both each other's. We were both crushes, but at different times. And he like pushed me down the stairs once. Can I tell you something? Yeah. The most noble thing a woman can do is be a gay man's crush. I was going to say, and have a crush on a gay man back. Well, that still happens sometimes. Well, I want to say Steven was my first gay crush. Yeah. After him was, I probably shouldn't say their full names. I mean, they're out. After him was Tanner. After him was Anderson Cooper. After him was, yeah. So I can go on. Um, talk about ally. You're like, it's really good ally. Too good, in fact. Wait, I actually, something you said that's so funny to me is like, and I always think about this. My mom has always been right about every friend I had a falling out with. Yes. And there's not really that many, but the ones that I was like, oh, absolutely never. My mom was like, and I was so like, leave, leave alone. Like, she's my girl. She's my bestie. My mom was like, for now. No. And then is your mama, I told you so, mom too? Uh, yes. Okay. Yeah. Well, they're black. We have black moms. Yeah. Pause. So that answers the question itself. But like, was your mom always like, I clocked that tea. Oh, no. She always knew Ashton was a problem. She always knew. And then there was like, actually, I was talking to my best friend from childhood, Molly, the other day. And she was like, your mom always said that Catherine's skirt was too short. And that's why you couldn't go to her lake house and like spend the night. Because she was fast. And I was like, and my mom knew. I love fast. And my mom knew. We got to bring back calling someone fast. No. Fast is so. It's kind of nasty. It's so Beyonce nasty girl. Beyonce, Destiny's Child nasty girl. It's so like, okay, so you're actually crazy. Like, you need to take a few steps back. I will say just a mere week ago, my mom texts me a photo. I swear she's lovely and woke. These women's bodies and they had these huge BBLs. And she just goes, it's like middle of the night, crazy booties. Question mark, question mark, question mark. I was like, I love a black mom. Like, I don't. And he's like, what the hell? I'm like, girl, I, the asses were quite fat. It was crazy. But it was like. A text from a mom though is, it comes at any moment. There's truly, they're on a different type of time. Right. It's like in the middle of the night. It's something so random. Like truly my mom texted me that my high school was getting a new head of school. Recently? I want to say, yes. I want to say at like maybe 10 o'clock at night. And I was so like, so why would that matter to me? Yeah. So what is the thought process here? But then maybe she really knows me because you better believe I went on the. Facebook. Oh my God. And I went to see a photo of this guy. I couldn't remember if I had ever met him before. And the skirts at my high school now are so short. Oh yeah. And I was like, we need parents in the home. These girls are fast. No, so I'm actually becoming, it's like just a circle. I'm like becoming my mother. That kind of reminds me. Like, do you feel like you like identify with your mom a lot? Do you guys think, do you think you have a lot of the same qualities? I think we have a lot of the same qualities, but I think that we express them differently. But sometimes I do. I do hear sentences come out of my mouth. And I'm like, oh, that was my dad's voice. When I'm like, oh my God, can someone turn off a light in this house? It's like, oh, so that's my father. Entered the room with us right now. Do you feel like you're more your dad than your mom? No, I think we just, we connect in different ways. But what, tell me a story about you as a child that, that is like the story of your youth. That's like, okay, this is what type of time she was on. So this is the first time I hopped out of the car while it was moving. First time. Lady Bird, my gosh. Yeah, she, she, Greta Gerwig watching me being like, oh my God, I'm taking notes. Yeah, two times. Two times before Lady Bird came out. But I, I can't even remember. My mom, I had asked my mom about this recently. We were driving in Hollywood. My mom and I scream fighting. My brother is a passenger and passive princess. So he's just sitting there. Wait, are you in the, he's in the front seat or he's in the front seat? Okay. I'm in the back. He's quite as mouse. One time when I was fighting with my mom, actually. My brother was, like, so sick of it, he just reaches over, turns, him up he ate that too i was like you know what and you're right to do it because we both kind of suddenly were like okay yeah like whatever you're right like this i'll shut the fuck up but you know i'm in like a middle school we're fighting about something apparently my mom said i was fighting about like whether like over something about american idol i get something so trivial but i'm really hard-headed because i'm a tourist so i just wanted to win the argument i guess and i had nothing else to do but leave the car like just to put my body on the line so we're screaming screaming screaming i'm like and i jumped out of the car on hollywood boulevard and my mom drove off she was like you want to you want to be funny i'll be hilarious hilarious she zips like fine zips away i end up like going into some restaurant i'm scared i don't hollywood is no no that can i say that's the most shocking part is that you chose hollywood to get out of the car hollywood chose me actually is calling my body this is the time that is like oh god and i was sitting in this restaurant being like do i do it like do it it's just my life now like i'm a girl on the road and i was like so no i'm gonna ask for the payphone yeah yeah i was like uh can i borrow the phone i need to call my mom and call her and just watching her pull back up and again get in the car quiet and i still like that way like that that could have happened last week like it's it's very like me it's very right mom it's very like your brother my brother it's all it's it's very hollywood hollywood is full of girls that just in front of their parents cars and we're like i walk in and there's a community of us there's a meeting in the back it's just it's just the waiter's like oh god come on get back to that table yeah we got blankets we have plenty of you what about you is there any moment that like pops up yes this is a story that i'd honestly forgotten until my mom reminded me of it because it was my grandma's favorite story to tell about me that my dad was dropping me off at her house one day and we like got into it i was like probably five five or six we got into a fight in the car because i wanted something that he wouldn't buy me yeah like a book or something and like a book or something yeah that we fuss about books a lot um but i according to my grandma i got out of the car and i said my dad was like you know maybe i'll get it for you later blah blah blah and i looked at him and said that's okay i'll get auntie to buy it for me and walked right into the house and was like in a discussion whatever so when i say i was put on this earth to be my dad's number one up that's what i mean every daughter is actually no totally totally oh my god like i had like so actually so actually oh no no but that that feels like very mean it's so because you know who it fucking is when i think of hunter and i's dynamic i think of this really great movie called uptown girls and a hunter is dakota motherfucking fanning i decode fitting down was it evian water or aquafina i think it was evian yeah yeah yeah her spray didn't she have like a little have it on me actually something crazy this weekend where i went to see a movie and i brought my little um like hand standing out of my purse yeah and it like like squelched in such a disgusting way because it was like has like barely any left and i was like oh god i need to refill squelched i need to read and that's actually like the the most polite way i can put it it was crazy i felt so embarrassed um britney murphy though okay so speaking of uptown girls tell me like five like movies tv shows that were integral to your growing up honestly maybe uptown girls i love that movie i should recently hold up um you know what movie i was obsessed with though ever after okay that attracts to me i would believe because i was on never after girl but i believe that you were never after girl and you know who i loved until i found out she was problematic the you're a pebble in my shoe the the mom the what's her name i don't know uh angelica houston she's problematic that's what i've heard but you know i've been doing this thing where i've been saying they're canceled and i'm like yeah i'm just making it up sometimes i've been doing this thing where i've been saying they're i do but i think so i think she defended like a pedo or something like that audience fact check we're putting you guys to work this is crazy our audiences are submitting w9s she's problematic now i was gonna say oh deprimessing she's in ever no no but just a problematic actress it's like come on there's only two um jamie lee curtis yeah but that rack sometimes i forgive her sorry okay anyway uh ever after was really really really really formative for me it like if it was all i had a crush on every single person i like would watch it over and over and over again it was like my safety movie tv shows i don't know i'm kind of like all over era wise like i'm like oh disney kid like that's so raven felt like my entire personality is built off of that's or even in some of my wardrobe actually when i'm feeling young i can see that well definitely when i was young i was like oh i was popping out in a limited two you don't get me near a limited two i'll go crazy i loved like all of her little like butterfly clippies like she had she's like a heavy a lot of times like like a like side kind of swoop yeah but like not like an alia suit but like a like a plastered down swoop she has so much fun with her hair and i like yeah i miss not miss that era i think we're like back in it a little bit of like black girls like really playing with like how yes like their hair looks like i think she was like part of that but she was stepping out every day every day okay okay woman um i think she was like part of that but she was stepping out every day every day uh yeah i don't know those are some of the first ones that come to mind i guess what about you um definitely it was a that's a raven girl cheetah girls cheetah sisters five six seven with the vocals sorry sorry um i was also i loved runaway bride i would watch runaway bride all the time which honestly says a lot about me um and my mom you went on and also it's like how long do you have to talk about well because and i also remember a wedding to exhale you went on and also it's like how long do you have to talk about well because and i also remember that was a big one but i couldn't watch the whole movie i had to watch like certain scenes because they were like inappropriate um i would watch the preacher's wife a lot growing up i don't know that is the winnie houston movie i know i never saw it oh i know okay so actually we'll be leaving right now we'll be going to a private screening i'm surprised you didn't say there is some so there's some education that needs to be um and i was a big like okay i kind of feel like private school kids private school kids like disney and public school kids like nickelodeon but then the like alternative school kids were all in a cartoon network like is cartoon network like recess or was that nickelodeon that was nickelodeon oh cartoon network was like uh johnny bravo ed ed and eddie i i couldn't stand ed ed and eddie no rather could i i truly was like wait where are their parents you're gonna get like what is it crazy i hated playing i hated ed and eddie i was like loki like we need parents in the home like what like what are your parents doing it was like giving me like white trash i was like no event boys the damn girls the girl version and now let's say it and that's called patriarchy i don't care okay oh my god i don't even remember the girls i loved the wild thorn berries though i loved the hot oh my god uh deb is that her name i can't remember you know who i like dexter's the no i was gonna say didi got on my nerves you're doing too much um i like that boy just became my mother doing that um i liked the dad in wild thorn berries i thought he was like sex that does not surprise me were you a rugrats kid yeah of course no and now it's been said go ahead and say it um when i was little my mom would not let me watch rugrats because angelica quote gave me an attitude it empowered you a little too much i watched angelica and i said oh i'm moving different now to my mother any type of way and she said not on my watch she said damn you can't identify with suzy nice black girl she's right there damn my mom said representation does not matter actually turn it off oh my god i i actually i feel say like my rugrats i couldn't stand the boy that breath breathed weird um but then i felt bad i had empathy because his mom was dead but but then he got the stepmom and i was on his side i was like that's stepmom i don't trust her wait who is um i'm gonna go up a little bit who's like day 14 crush oh um well oh daniel radcliffe was a big crush of mine i know that's so not like me he's short yeah um but i just loved harry potter growing up look how that's aged not well um and then also i think i like you know as a mature woman i graduated immediately from daniel radcliffe to like uh orlando bloom and then johnny depp and yeah you're bi i was gonna say no i'm insane so that's just math by the way because i know exactly what eras you're talking about for each i'm like also chad michael murray too that was a big lesbian oh and tanning tatum too i remember a core memory of mine is watching she's the man in the movie theater with my mother and my mom looking at me and saying he's got a little black in him and he and she and every black mother said and i said he's all right i know like hello that's what every black mother can agree on like do we like beyonce huh do we love channing tatum absolutely absolutely what was your who's your day 14 crush i have to talk about you know have you seen that video of my mom watching magic mic oh of course went over her glasses and she's like takes her glasses off starts saying I'm like this is activating you too much like there's another person in the room it was disgusting um I mine was okay I specifically had okay do you remember B2K yeah of course so I had this poster of them and I was like I can't decide who to love and so oh wait is this when you kiss all of them I used my mom's like expensive MAC lipstick to do it and she was like see bitch no that's when she knew she had a problem on her hands she was like oh my god and like me genuinely thinking like I I have to pick because they're they're gonna see me and not know what to do but speaking of short kings Omarion um and where is he now is he a problematic now no no I think he's good he was just he did that little slam dance he had that that meme do you remember I don't know the only whenever I see someone jumping on the timeline I'm like oh my god it could be Chris Brown like I have to scroll past like you never and he was kind of jumping um and Bow Wow oh my god first time I shaved first time I shaved was for Bow Wow concert wow oh Omarion actually so I was like double trouble I'm trying to remember the first time I shaved I'm like why am I I think it was for a real like a boy in real life oh oh great same yeah totally same also boys in real life over here but no but I did have I did have a big crush on Bow Wow and I remember my friend Elizabeth and I we would like fight over who could get Bow Wow and who could get like a friend like random friend those were the two options yeah they're only two boys if you can't get Bow Wow you can have this guy yeah um yeah I loved him he was and yeah he was everything to me so let's talk about when we met how old were you 18 uh yeah I was uh we were freshman and we were let's say college girls together we we enjoyed that too yes so annoying um but we were girls together we literally were in like film 101 oh history of media arts that's what it was called history of media arts yeah and Andre Puka Andre Puka kind of sounds like a black name Andre Puka and I'm like okay yeah or at least like a little something something like one of those people you look at and squint a little razzle dazzle yeah I thought he was hot I did not he kind of looked like um oh my god who's that guy from Shrinking yeah I didn't that's not my thing my mom loves it though every mom loves anything on Apple TV including me and the morning show Apple TV you and my mom going toe-to-toe on the morning show it's crazy um uh he was not hot to me but he had such but he knew so much because he's a teacher he has that's his job to know at least a little something you'd be surprised at Emerson College you'd be surprised um but that was like I feel like our um okay you know I wonder what's like do you know I've been asking this to people recently it's like when you meet someone and then when you lock in with them and I feel like you start a friendship like in a lock-in moment like we had met each other because we were in a class and then we I felt like I feel like we locked in because you would always be on my floor yeah because Nikki lived on your floor yeah or Rachel lived on your floor Nikki lived on my floor I remember the I remember when I locked in with Rachel because Rachel was friends with my roommate at the time because they were acting students together and like weekend one of college Rachel threw up in my trash can for some reason well in my roommate's trash can it was wicker which obviously that would not be mine we need to do an episode just on Rachel as well because I just remember this crazy email she sent me and she's like sending us these instances right now wait wait is that the email from when she was like lost on the side of the road or something yes because I remember it yes because I remember it and that was I'm also like so wait why is email the way how did you get access to this if you lost your phone you can't find your keys you're outside your house I'm like so where in the world Rachel lives a different life yeah i.e. she's white she moves different yeah said with love okay yes but I think I feel like when we were on my floor yeah probably honestly I was like I probably feel like Rachel did something crazy and we both were like is this yours shit I guess it's ours yeah yeah yeah yeah this one yours I guess we're gonna share custody joint custody of Rachel is crazy but then I feel like we I don't know we like we just kind of like eased into each other I feel like yeah and didn't feel like we eased into each other I know that sounds so that sounds crazy we just eased into each other I don't know if that works so they don't have the hopefully it does something sensual happening but I actually remember this one moment it's just not like the origin story but I remember this a specific story where I was like uh oh either Hunter's gonna be so in this relationship or so out of it when we were like out I guess we were getting pizza afterwards and there's these drunk guys that come okay for a moment I was like I don't know what story she's about to tell but that's that moment I'm getting chills all over my body because I was literally like I'm wearing a J.Crew coat it's Boston winter and I'm thinking to myself what is she about to get me the fuck into because these men were like mid men just so so regular it's Boston yeah I was about to say we said Boston but like but they lived in an apartment building across the street from our door and we were getting pizza and they were like come over and I was like yeah like I you were like again yes and to my I need to and Hunter's like no but I'm like holding my I'm like ooh but a good type A friend knows her type B friend needs a hand holding yes I was like you're not gonna send me alone you know I'm not sending you up to these strange men by yourself I feel like they also the only thing I remember about that night is that they like would throw something like stuff out of the windows and it was so illegal no no that was like it was so dangerous and so illegal and I was like oh we have to get out of here they were being so they were just already saying crazy things and again I can unfortunately my talk secretary's like I'm gonna connect with anybody like so I'm trying to like understand and then they open a window and throw a glass bottle out of it and I kid you not it was instant Hunter alright we're going so we're literally grabbed by the wrist and it was like we're out of here we're done we're cooked it's over it's a wrap it was but it's like one of those things where it's like either this bitch is about to get me in a lot of mess and I'm gonna be her friend or it's like you either have to cut it off or keep going for forever you know what I mean and that was like a moment that was like it wasn't the last lock-in moment but it was like you're signing a contract yeah that was a good that was a good look I feel like the moment with you was like I think we were like in actually in that same building and it was my friend Maggie's birthday and you'd come over and it was like honestly it's so random that they even had like a party but I watched you say like someone offered you weed and you were like oh I don't smoke 20 minutes later oh yeah and it's like I was like this bitch is a liar she lies like it was just so funny and I'm like totally totally totally so do you remember our Las Culturistas Las Culturistas episode oh that you don't stand on business absolutely absolutely know thyself okay know that my mind will change in exactly what 20 minutes that's all it takes it was just so funny because I was like oh huh that's weird I swear oh okay I see it now hmm that sounds like that sounds exactly correct sounds like me no debate there I would say 62 Boylston that was the address of that building that it saw a lot I was just like dox them but I was like honestly dox those men that were there if you ever see some crazy men throwing shit out the window I feel like people crazy people cycle through that building honestly it's like you wouldn't last an hour in the asylum where they raised me but then we were RAs together yeah we were RAs not together but like at the same time yeah you got the nice classy building I got the roaches but then you got Colonial yeah I randomly upgraded well I had some serious stuff on my floor in LB and I think as like an apology to me or like a favor to me I got like the sickest floor it was like the all women's floor oh my gosh before I was even I said I'll take it why not let's do it it was like the all women's floor in like this like really quiet nice building and I had like 13 residents it was nothing for grown folks it was a building that's like okay if you're living in Colonial you like know a thing or two but a thing or two that's why they brought me in I was in the dorm it was like kind of the party dorm you're part P-Ro right? yeah well no I guess LB was the party party dorm for real it was just like a freshman dorm yeah but P-Ro was like cool like if you were P-Ro was like okay so you're a sophomore now you can like have people over to underage drink in your living room that has a mini fridge and I would have to like bust the parties I think I busted two parties and I was like I don't want to do the paperwork like yeah yeah it was such a nightmare so random that we are actually I feel like that actually calls financial responsibility yeah I think I just got it as like a like I think I had a good interview but on paper they were like wait no because they needed cool girls to be RAs yeah they were like being an RA is cool there were too many like accountants who were RAs straight the cops we had the cops on our team and it's like ACAB the cop in your mind like I was like say that woke dorm enforcement and then we also like just I mean we don't talk but we were we were in a sorority we were in a sorority okay bleep it like what the hell like it's that's like random AF of us and I was did you do like were you on any kind of council for it or did you like respect yourself no I did run for I think I ran for like eboard honestly only because I wanted the drama I wanted like the inside scoop but I didn't get it because someone sabotaged my campaign oh name them we've said so many government names on this podcast already Might as well add another. I just thought you'd be too busy for it. Because you were like a working woman in college. I was. I had my little Madewell little briefcase bag on in the club. I was Madewell boots. But like you were like real, like I worked like retail. You were like, so I've got 14 internships and a child at home, okay? Whose name is Rachel. Yeah, yeah. I'm a single mom who works two jobs, okay? That was you. But I, it was like you always had money because you worked retail. Like at All Saints, at Zara, at, did you work at Brandy? No, Urban Outfitters. I don't think I was skinny enough to work at Brandy. Or white enough. Well, who was? Who was skinny enough to work at Brandy? Could be. But like, you just have to do this around your hips and then you can work there. Did you work at American Apparel too? No. Oh. I remember though when I, I did not know what American Apparel was before college. And I got, I put on my little skater dress and I said. And got to work. We are also, wait, another core friendship memory of the two of us is when I was like, oh, I'm going to be a bad girl. Like a rip hole in my tights. And I was like, and you were like, that looks kind of like, you look like you kind of don't have a home. You look like you come from a broken home. And I was like, I thought I was being cool. There's a hole in your tights. You were like, oh, that's weird. Huh. That doesn't seem like you. You're like fake, faker. Fake bad girl. Oh my God. So stupid. Oh my God. I love it. I'm an aspirational bad girl. And, but that's how you end up in someone's home, throwing glasses out the window. Truly. Truly. And I said, oh, bad girl shift is done. It's time for me to go home. Time for me to go back to my house. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, I'm curious, like early, because we moved to New York around the same time. Yeah. 10 years ago, which is crazy. I know. How do you feel about, how do you feel about being 10 years in New York? 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Except for to a dog. Okay. Question for you. Oh, first job and worst job. First job, I actually, you know, it was retail. I worked a ton of retail. Okay. Um, I will say I really miss working retail. I like, I miss, um, intergenerational hangs a lot. And when I told you I worked the stock room at Zara, like I had to switch my shift because I, of my class schedule, I worked at like six o'clock in the morning. So I like come in and like open boxes and just pull all the stuff out. My do everything ripped, by the way. So if you're ever in a Zara and you're like something ripped, it's not you. It's Zara. Okay. They all come ripped. They're liars. You can, you can exchange it. You can get your return. So I'm working. I'm working at Zara early morning shift and I'm like opening these things and I'm having just the key of my life with like a 60 year old, another 19 year old, a 32 year old. It's like really real range. I love that. I love that. And I was just like, I miss having conversations with people that aren't just like in media in their thirties, you know? Um, and so I feel like a deep nostalgia for like that kind of connection and that kind of key, but, and also saying Sarah, I love that. I got clocked by the Spanish girls. They were like, Ooh, Sarah. I was like, you're so right, queen. You're so right. Um, but I, I guess my first one was maybe urban outfitters. I think that was my first job. I was, I worked at the LA. No, in Harvard square in the men's section. And I was like, which is only weird because it's like men, Boston drunk men all the time coming in stealing. They were like, well, Peyton, what do you want? I'm a girl. What the hell do you want me to do? Tackle him? And I would be like, also, I'm not tackling anyone over one of those urban outfitters, men's cardigans. Like, excuse me. Wait, hold on. Hold on. I have this one life over BDG. I'm like, come on, literally over BDG. Come the fuck on. That's crazy. It was insane. I'm like, but I also, I feel like I have this thing where I only really trust people that had either like a retail or a service job. Cause like you have to have been like just fucking yelled at in a crazy way. And like these, like getting paid, what? $10 an hour. Um, it was my first job. Not my worst job. My worst job was probably like, I was like, how real do I get on this? I piss off former employers. Um, I don't know. I actually don't think I've, I actually don't think I've had like horrendous jobs. I've had hard experiences at some jobs that required a lot of therapy. Um, and caused a few relationship troubles for me in my life. So like. Name them. And honestly, find me at DM me and I'll tell you. Um, but like nothing that felt like a fun story. Like just like a sad one. You know what I mean? Like not like a crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. What about you? Um, my first job was that, I mean, my first like paying job was I was a nanny for a summer for these two girls and it was awful. And guess what? I was bad at it. And the girls, I mean, they were just like, we like, we're just, we're not on the same vibe. We weren't on the same type of time. Yeah. And they also had a really stinky dog that I didn't like. Oh, I hate a small dog. And they wanted me to like play like hide and go seek. I'm like low key, like you're like 12 and 13. Like you shouldn't, we should be like kind of over this. Like you should be able to entertain. You should be able to entertain yourself. And the mom worked with my mom and that's what we came, like how I got the job. And she came home one day and she was like, Hunter, whenever I come home, you're always like reading her on your computer. And I literally said to her, well, I'm modeling good behavior. And I did not see a problem with that until like truly like four years ago. Cause I was like, I'm like, sorry, that's, that's what they should be doing. I learned by example. That's what I was providing. Guys, look at this. I'm being quiet. And then that was also kind of my worst job, but I always, um, I did a lot of internships. I remember one internship was in Boston at the Boston like globe website. And I was so, I just had the worst shifts and I was so bad at it. And I was so like tired and bored all the time. Cause I work at like six o'clock in the morning, like after having gone out the night before. And, um, I quit that job cause I got a job in New York when I was moving to New York. And my boss was so mean. Like my editor was so mean. She was like, well, you signed a contract. And I was like, no, I didn't. She's like, well, when you like, we made like a promise. And I was like, I didn't, not me. You pinky swore. Like, what did you do? And I'm like, so I'm like, this is like a paying like salary job. Like, what am I going to do? Not move to New York. She's like, well, you should really stay like three more months. I was like, my, my parents said I couldn't. Like, so. And so it got to that level. Who loves as I can? Like, what the? It was like the first and last time I was like, well, if you know me, my parents, it's like, that doesn't mean any. I was just like, well, sorry, my parents said I can't. So I have to go. And I was, oh gosh. And I still, she like unfollowed me on Twitter after that. Oh my God, you're a child. That's so like, why are you beefing with a 13 year old? Truly. Like, literally. And as an adult now, I'm thinking to myself, like, so she was crazy. Like, this was so over the top. But yeah, that was probably my worst job. Oh, wait, actually. Okay, I have one actually, which was my internship at V Magazine. Oh my God, I forgot about V Magazine. Good. Keep it. That way. Oh my gosh. Wow. It was just like, so, it was so New York derogatory in a way that I wish wasn't my introduction to New York. It's where I was like, oh, everyone's performing, being interesting. No one actually, you're all smoking, but no one's inhaling. And I should know because I smoke, but I don't inhale. But it just was like, so I got the wrong water one time. It was very that. And I was like, oh girl, you, goodbye. We're done. It was very that. It was like such a lame internship. That's so crazy. That's such like loser energy. We're like, you have to like find something just like to feel important. Yeah. To feel like self-important. Yeah. Oof. I'm like, okay, that was gross. I hate that. That was gross. But we're not, we're not that kind of New York anymore. Who would play you in a biopic? I think we have the same answer. Oh, do we? What? Oh, do we? Well, I thought you were just going to say, I mean, Mahala. Mahala? Is that how you say her name? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, oh, for you, for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mahala. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when no one was watching Industry, but I was, I said, oh, Peyton, you're clocking in for your shit. you're working at a bank and no one got the joke ever and I'm like so there are two of you running around London and everyone's like what is she saying and now look I would make her I would make her play me or like in a just dream casting old Raven-Symoné yeah she could do me well that's funny because I feel like like previous Raven-Symoné could do you but present day Raven-Symoné could do me because she's serious today yeah she is she's really serious she is really strict and I still have a wife who sucks too but she's strict she I saw her in an interview and she was like yeah listen I was at Disney I was working I wasn't jealous of Miley because I had Orlando Brown to deal with she's like girl I was truly putting in the work I was busy she said but it'll be I'll do my memoir I said up and clock it I love I love when someone is like I'm saving that for the book yeah yeah don't think you're gonna get that answer on me right now you're gonna pay $29.99 to get that answer I'm not giving this to the breakfast club for free not the breakfast club oh my god yes well you know okay who would play me I'm curious who you were gonna say well someone that I dated once told me that I I was like oh well Zendaya and he said no because you know how like they play at the end of a biopic like the real photos you don't want people to like be disappointed is he white? what do you think? so I bought a gun that very night um no shoot I I mmm oh you know what Taylor Russell oh I was gonna say Laura Harrier oh because you both have really big eyes I can see that she's not a good actress though not good enough oh well I didn't know we were talking about quality I thought we were just talking about well you have a good actress so I'm like well I should too oh well I should too you're so cool I'm pissed I would say I mean you saw her in Black Klansman she's a black power oh that's how that's how it sounded she had a fine husband oh wait no they broke up I don't know who she's with now because I'm trying to figure it out actually I have a yeah I don't know who she's with now but but no I would say Laura she would be fine but I think it's in that universe yeah Zoe Kravitz you want that you guys are too you guys are too similar in real life no yeah you are no because she's I've only heard she's very well she and she is and she really is and she should be like she's allowed to be totally like she is but and she's always at that damn theater and I'm like Hunter in a movie so calling you back to be in a movie yes yes yes but I also think about her her little like this was my dress at the Academy Awards where apparently assaulting people on stage now yeah you would never be that stupid that was a crazy quote private put the phone away okay so we famously survived our 20s barely by the skin of my chinny chin chin by the skin of my teeth is what I was about to suggest oh yeah that's it is that it yeah yeah that's it I think just watch someone be like it's so wrong that's not it I'm just a girl I mean come on we went to Everson College come on you can't come on okay but we escaped our 20s what would you say are like any major lessons or things to never do again oh my gosh that you have for the group I don't I honestly I think I was so like hyper and always like trying to like do stuff all the time I'm like I could have just like you know relaxed my shoulders a little bit in my 20s and also don't take shots at the bar take shots at home yeah take shots at home take shots at home before the bar because if you take shots at the bar you're going to spend too much money and you're going to fully black out if you're at home you can kind of have some time to recover but yeah our advice hey don't do it in the house keep it in the house that's all we ask like totally fine save your money I would say two very opposite lessons 20s date like date that bad person that you shouldn't be dating you know what I mean like date someone that you're like oh it's risky like go because it's I do think it I I don't know I am grateful for all the what the hell was I thinking pussy whipped dick whipped one time then I got over that stuff but like I think you what's that thing you always say that I always mess up you go you go through what you go through God brings you to it to bring you through it and sometimes you have to like you know you know you always have a friend that like dating this person that you're like I mean not be an abusive relationship obviously nothing like that but like you have a friend that's like she's only she's going to let herself out she's going to have to go through it we're going to see her on the other side we'll be here when she's ready but you had relationships where I was like I don't know if we're going to see the other side of this because I'm like oh God here they come I'm like oh can you can you leave her at home please like I'm sorry keep her away like that's secret love like and I'll name them that's private love I said that's not for general consumption like I think this is at least I did too I did it too many times I over indexed I really learned the lesson for all of us but I do think like if you go through one you just really like I don't know I think it's fine to date that one person that's like this is risky I think sometimes you have to get it out of your system you have to like make a mistake and then be like oh so I'm actually never doing that again and I don't know I feel like and then we don't as a friend and this is like part two you have to kind of let them and like again as long as everyone's safe in terms of like no like abuse of anything but like you kind of have to let them move through emotions and just be there to hold them when it when it eventually does come back and then you be a black mom and you say I told you so so I did see that coming and I love you I told you this was gonna happen I also think you know whatever happens after whatever anyone says after like two o'clock in the morning don't take it seriously like it doesn't matter it's you know like the idea of like yeah drunk words or like true or something it's like they literally never are like never with me because I don't even remember some of them I'm like couldn't remember me it's always just like don't take it too seriously like it's okay well I actually that's a big like relationship one too and I think it could be applied to friendship it's like no good conversation happens after like midnight 1am like you're never gonna get to the source of it or meet like go to bed unless you're in someone's backyard patio and you're sitting on those plastic chairs cause that's when the real stuff comes out you sound like you barbecuing you got you got a scar what are you talking about I have my grilling sandals you just you have my grilling sandals what can I say exactly I just saw a very clear picture and it was so beautiful the only time I ever thought about using AI was to generate what I just saw I love you but that's my big I would say friendship wise it's like date your friends date the hell out of your friends okay I think like everyone not like date them literally like treat them like relationships like romantic relationships yeah yeah yeah I feel like I learned that later I was about to say okay Serena Vanderwoodson like you're just gonna go through the whole crew crew love yeah get ran through that's what not no no low key not no uh it'll teach you some stuff um but anyway you'll find out who's really friends um okay what age what age did you enjoy the most and what age can you not wait to be um what age I enjoy the most maybe like a 26 27 was really fun 28 it's loaded like how many um okay 28 was tough uh 27 26 I felt like I I was just I don't know just saying like yes to everything and being like I think like the most like the loudest version of myself and that was really fun even though I think I'm doing that now still yeah maybe the best is yet to come uh but I can't wait to be like I was talking to my granny the other day and I was like I'm gonna kill it when I'm 70 I'm gonna be on you can't tell me nothing when I'm 70 you couldn't tell me nothing when I was 7 but you couldn't tell me nothing when I'm 70 I'm gonna be speeding I'm gonna be doing what I want I'm gonna be speeding speeding speeding is so random I know like you're dying to speed right now I'm dying to speed need for speed she said okay I live in New York I'm never in a car relax she's gonna speed over here like what I don't know I just I feel like it'll be so nice to be so I just love talking to a woman that's so settled into herself and I was like I think that that's gonna really be me specifically at 70 yeah that I read this one interview with Cher around the time of her Broadway show opening it was in the Times and she was asked like what do you think young Cher would think of you now like in your 70s and she said it doesn't matter what she thinks like she only wants to be this she would be so just happy that she made it here she would not be in a place to judge and I think a lot about that when it's like what is like your inner child what does like my 17 year old self like want it's like girl she didn't know anything then she doesn't don't ask her like please please please I really enjoyed though being I think I really enjoyed being like 17 because I felt like I was so like I just like want to watch movies all day and that was really fun and then also like drink Mike's Heart Lemonade with my friends and that was like Mike's Heart Lemonade oh yeah you back on that plastic chair huh you sitting outside soaking up the sun we were girls together no you were uncles together that was you as a kid oh my god and then and then I think I can't wait to be like I can't wait to be like 54 that's like a powerful age for me yeah and honestly once I saw Meryl Streep and Lindsay Lohan on the cover of that one W magazine. literally us I literally felt like oh my god I cannot wait to be like 60 like that's gonna be so fun like you're still beautiful in fact hotter actually I love a maternal figure anyway that's all the time we have today so question for the culture what were you like as a child what age did you love most what age can you not wait to be I know and also you know what we should do we know what we should circle back on when I was thinking about you as a teen I was like oh I remember your journals and I remember some of my journals and maybe we do an episode of revealing some of those that penmanship that pen goes crazy it was shocking we might have to do a specific like teen hunter painting and see we're gonna be careful on that one and also when did you know your best friend was your best friend oh yeah I think that's a sweet one oh my god that is sweet a little call to action you and your best friend should listen to this and be like which 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