"Friends With Ariel" (w/ Ariana Madix)

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Listening to get worse with Kyle Proo on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. - Hey everybody, it's me Matt, and my tour is on sale now. This time, it's really Christmas. You can go to www.MattRodgersofficial.com, podcast or a visual medium. If you're not watching me right now, I am holding in my hands my vinyl. It's called, "Have you heard of Christmas?" And the answer to that question is coming. At this time, it's really Christmas. I'm playing all over the country, and in London, and in Canada. That makes it a world tour. Harry Styles, you're on burn notice. I'll see you soon. Now, tell us about the origins of like, being an Orlando girlie. 'Cause you know what, you still have to be a little secretive 'cause like, we did a show in Orlando a few years ago, and like, there were like, Disney princesses, working Disney princesses in the audience, and we were like, asking them doing crowd work. I guess, about the job, and they were like, we can't tell you. - Well, you know, I assume you don't have younger listeners. - Certainly not. If we do, I'm so nervous. - There. - Like, the way we talk about like gay sex on this podcast, I just hope that someone is holding their hand through it. I hope you have a good parent. - Look, Matt. Oh, I see him, how am I? Bowen, look over there. Is that culture, yes? - Oh, wow. ♪ Let's cultureistas ♪ - Ding dong, let's cultureistas calling. - We're talking beta blockers over here. - We're talking beaties. - And I was sharing with our guest. - You're gonna meet in just a sec that I brought a bunch of beta blockers over to Bowen Yang's house. And I remember when I put them in that little petri dish. - You put them in a little petri dish. - Are they still there? - They're still there. And all I've gotten through is half of one, because I took it before a rehearsal, like the week before the shoot, I went on, and it chilled me out so hard. - You were like a chill Mary Todd. - I was chill Mary Todd. I was like, well, that's not the character. - People don't go to Oh Mary to see chill Mary Todd. It's actually real a culture number five. People don't go to Oh Mary to see a chill Mary Todd. I was like, this is out of what? (laughing) - Speaking of really chill and cool and incredible things on Broadway. - I think, yes, oh go. - I was gonna say that. - I was gonna say that, I'm fucking cool. She was born cool, she was born fucking cool, she is, I think the original winner of the Allison Williams Cool World Award. - Literally. - This is a lost culture, he's this culture. - I heard a word winner. And by the way, I'll never forget the message that she sent in, 'cause she said, reality TV is not trash. That was the way she ended it. And I was like, if anything, it's proven more true. And I will also say, this person is the definition of when life gives you lemons. You make lemonade. - Very good. - I actually was gonna bring the lemon cello. Lemon cello even, 'cause it's musical like a cello. - Yes. - I was gonna bring the lemonade vinyl in today. - Oh fabulous. - And put it up there so that it would display, but it is in LA. - I think, I do think it's worth sharing with our guests that she was part of a huge fight that you and I had. (laughing) - I think she knows about this, but we'll tell her again. - We'll tell her again. - We'll tell her, I don't know if she knows actually. - It's our guest in Chapel Roan. - It has to do with you in Chapel Roan. - And it happened on the set of Wicked. (laughing) - A lot of things converging with our guests. - It was really, it was a tough night. - And it's gay culture in one moment. - It really was a process of owning, having a screaming matchbox. - Crying. - Crying. - Well, bone was on the set of Wicked. - Because of a photo with Ariana Maddox and Bowen, when I was trying to get his attention about Chapel Roan. Anyway, this is, you can see her now in Justin's time on Broadway and you should. It's such a special show. It's really, really lovely. She's in it right now until November 22nd, and who knows what's gonna happen with that? - Who knows what's gonna happen with that day. - And she's an Emmy nominee for hosting the biggest reality show in the world. Love Island, maybe you've heard of that one. - You've heard of that one. She is a sandwich genius. - Yeah, sandwich shop owner. - Sandwich shop owner. - Fematic. - She is a New York Times bestselling author, bartendress legend. And she was, when we will discuss this, on Orlando Disney Princess. And just understand what we're dealing with with all that information. - This is Las Cultures, this is the perfect Las Cultures guest, in my opinion. - Here we go, and we're welcome her. Everyone, please welcome to your ears. Arianna! - Hey! - Hey! - What's up, girl? - What's up, girl? - I'm just grinning ear to ear. I'm like cracking up over here. - That's our way of laughing. - I'm so excited. - Do you know about the fight that you caused for taking what's on out of you? - No, I was this fight. - This was, when I was in a tough place, flying back and forth between New York and London, once a week, essentially, not for a long time, but it was just a lot of back and forth. I was very emotionally dysregulated. I would get up at five in the morning to go drive to hours outside of London. I, you know, in a sort of, twilight stupor, not a dawn stupor, posted the photo that you and I took at the upfronts that one year. - Oh yes, yeah. - And I think I posted it to close friends. - He posted it actually quite publicly. - Okay. - And at that time, I was really reeling from my own breakup. - Yeah. - So while you were sort of going through everything on Vanderpump, I was militantly by your side on the internet. - I don't know if you remember. I literally sent in a question to watch what happened while I when you were on. So I'm really having a hard time. And I'm trying to get Bowen's attention. - And he's just discovered this new artist, named Chapel Road. - I have discovered. - You discovered Chapel Road. - I went to the Fonda and I was like, I'm telling you, there was like, it was like, it was small time. It was like, I knew this girl was pulling up. So I'm texting and I'm like, we have to talk about Chapel Road. You're gonna be so excited, you're gonna love her. He's ignoring me fully and posting photos with you. And I think in that moment, I was like, half felt ignored, half jealous because it was a photo with you. And I was like, I think I literally called you and I was like, I don't know why. You can post a photo with Ariana Maddox when I'm trying to tell you this thing. And he's like, it's not all about you. - I was in the trailer. The PAs were freaks the fuck out 'cause they heard me screaming at the top of my lungs. Like, I've never screamed in my life. They go, I was like, it's not urgent that I know about who to Chapel Road is. It was, it is, it is urgent. I can post a picture of Ariana Maddox if I love you. (laughing) - Just crazy seismic fight. - Literally five minutes later we're crying and apologizing. - Just like, look, I just think I was just triggered because of what Ariana is going through, like literally. - So you think you're very heavily into the lore. - Oh my God. - In addition to the culture of Wordswin. - Oh my God, yeah. I didn't know I fit into the lore that hard. - Oh yeah. Well, it's kind of an embarrassing thing to just tell you, piecemeal. Do we, do we, do we, we're okay? - This show is about conflict and resolution. - Yeah. - Oh my God, this is anything. - Like anything. - Well, we were talking made of lockers and we don't have to get into this. But you want to test it out in a setting that does not require performance. - Yes. - Yes. - I'm nervous, well, I'm nervous is the issue at the time. - Sure, sure. - But what makes me nervous is that if I feel something I've never felt before, it will be two different of a sensation. - Yes. - And like you said, chill Mary Todd. - Right, yeah. - I mean, I guess Connie can be chill. - Connie can be chill. - Connie can be chill, but here's the thing. Connie does have to have come in with that swagoo. - She has to come in a little conti. - Yeah. - She has to be like, you guys wrote a song, what's up? - Yeah, right, right. - It can't be like, hey, how ya boys? - I don't know what you're saying. I'm sorry, I'm late. - I kind of like this conti Connie. - Conti Connie is kind nice. - Honestly. - Yeah. - One of the things I was like really excited about when I was hearing you perform it is there's a lot, there's like a country in your voice. - Yeah, Connie sings with a lot of like what we talk called nasal twang, I mean, which you know about. And I've been working on that a lot because it is very different from all of the vocal stuff that I've worked on in the past, which is very much like, really trying to elongate vowels, really round out vowels, really kind of like, I've always thought like, get out of that sort of nasal space. - Right. - But when you can find where to add that in, it really brings that like cool pop stuff. to sound, especially, to that period of time of music and her music, and she's so incredible. And I mean, I could never sound like Connie, but, you know, to bring a little of that in, that's the goal, yeah. - Are you finding that you are deep programming certain things about going to school for musical theater as you're doing it, which is sorry, ironic, right? - Yeah, it's, I definitely am deep programming things 'cause we're singing pop music at the end of the day. And I mean, a lot of it is standards. I mean, a lot of what Jeremy sings is standards. - Yeah. - But, you know, it's something old made new, which we say in the show, and it's this period of pop music that is very different to say, you know, when you're in school, you're learning things like Oklahoma or, you know, the learner in low of it all. - Yeah, yeah. - And this is just very different. - Learner in low. - Learner in low. - Oh, wow. - Isn't that funny? Well, everything they trained you for in musical theater, and now it's like, yeah, no, it's the share musical. (laughing) You know, believe, right? Everyone knows, believe. - You're a little hurt. - Yeah, there you go. And they'll never teach you that. - No. - But like, I mean, did it apply to Roxy more or less? - I feel like Roxy, Roxy's doing a lot of talk, singing. - Mm-hmm. - And I don't know. I feel like Roxy, I wanted, it was different. - Yeah. - Definitely was a different method, different vibe, entirely. - Sure. - There's also moments where Connie, in particular, is singing, but she's actually, we are acknowledging that she's performing when she's singing. - Yeah, right. - So even in the first, my first real love, we're working on a song together, but it's a performance aspect of us recording it, us learning a song together. - Yeah, there's layers of it. - And who's sorry now? Ed Sullivan introduces her. She's actually, at least the first part of the song, for sure, like attempting, after this dramatic moment, to sing as she would on television, which is different from most musicals, which is, you feel something so much that you can't help but sing. - You must burst out, yeah. - The diabetics are interesting in the show, or whatever it's like, where's the music coming from, but like, I feel like it is either helpful, or it's an extra layer that you have to filter through. - Yeah. - How do you feel about it? - I think, I think it's helpful in a sense that, like, for example, with who's sorry now, in her performing this, like, on television in this moment, you know, we just had this dramatic moment, but I'm smiling through this very sad song, because the idea is that I'm like, all right, here I am, everything's fine, I'm performing. But the emotion underneath is that, I'm actually going through this heart moment. Second half of the song, we can lean into that feeling, and I can actually sing more towards, like, what's really being felt. So it kind of helps, but it is different, because sometimes it's like, takes the performance aspect, takes a bit of the emotion out of it, if that makes sense. - I am not to not to make this about me, but like-- - Please do, no, I want you to. - I'm just like, I feel like I have a crutch, and without spoiling it, like, you know, Mary, it's like, I get to sing as in this like, reverie, and it doesn't have to be technically good, or even just-- - Well, you still are. - No, no, no, I saw it. - You're in the air, of course. - You went to end Daniel was there? - Yeah, he came. - I love Daniel. I love Daniel, I've never met him, but he's-- - Oh no, no, I've met Daniel several times. My favorite time that we ran into you was at Coachella. I think, I was like, I literally ran into Ariana and Daniel with Patrick, and we were like, oh my god, just bursting hugging, and by the way, I was like, that was amazing. And then I was like, well, they seem so happy. I'm like, I'm certain everyone is on Molly. (laughing) I think we're all just like, yeah! I was in the uncarnable way. - Uh-huh. - So psyched, I'm like, yeah, we're amped. - We're amped, no comment on that. - No comment. - No comment. - Oh wait, it's okay. Speaking of that, but I'll go back to it. - Oh yes, yeah. - No, okay, so you don't want to feel something new on, like, for the first time while you perform. - Just in case, it's like not the thing. - This is a weird question, but do you recall the last time you experienced a new emotion? 'Cause it is a thing that you're, it's a great framework, 'cause it's like, I don't wanna feel something new. - Yeah. - And I have to be on stage for it. - You know what I mean? - No, like a new brand new emotion couldn't tell you the last time. - Exactly, 'cause it happens what like five times in your life. - Exactly, yeah. I'm like, okay, yeah, at this point, you think you've experienced all of it. - All our most of them. - I've already experienced more types of experience. - Human exposure than most people I would say, too. - Yeah. - It's like a very weird, I was thinking about that too. It's like, both the characters that you've played on Broadway so far, a lot of it is about exactly what you were saying, which is like, I am giving you this, but really it's this. - Yes. - And I think about how that speaks to you and the life that you like have been living for the past, you know, I guess 11, 12, 13 years, which is, I am someone who is being received a certain way, yet I'm also a human being. Behind that, who's feeling a million different things than the person that you are all getting to know. - Yeah. - So it's kind of funny sometimes how those things follow us. - For sure, and it's always like, I never get into all of those million different things 'cause it's like a Pandora's box. - Totally. - Of course. - I could never like, summarize it all for everyone. So I'm just like, I'll just let that be the inner world. - Right. - And like, okay, and then the outer world is just like, whatever you guys want to make up. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're, you're good with the fact that like, I guess I don't know how to say that. It's like, now you moved into such a different phase. Like you're an Emmy-nominated host and like, arbiter of this like worldwide phenomenon. And now you get to like, express yourself from these other ways. And yet, you know that people like can go back and watch Vanderbump rules whenever they want. And it's like, so it's like, you're good with that person as the way she exists because you're not super invested in whatever one thinks about her. - Yeah, especially about, because I also know at this point, I've had so much time since that. And I also am able to look at that and know what I was really going through. - Of course. - And if you know the more you explain something, the more it just, you have to keep explaining and explain more and explain something else. And then they're like, well, what do you mean, the bean supification of it all? - Bean supification. - That's, so I kind of just let it be 'cause I also know how much I was going through that was like never on that show. - Right, yeah. - Then I'm like, that can be in the memoir or that can be in conversation with friends or that can be whatever, but I feel like sometimes also the people who want to look at you in bad faith. - They will. - They will, regardless. - And there's something about the modern condition where it's like you have to, in order to survive, you have to be okay with being misunderstood. - You have to. - You have to. - It's not. - You should. - The greatest. - And not the greatest, yeah, yeah. - And of course I feel like even too, like even, you know, even with doing this show, even with doing just in time, I mean, with the casting announcement, things like that. There's so much that's still being misunderstood or, but then it's like, what do you do? You go in the comments and you like fight people, you know? - Sometimes if I have something really good to say. - Of course I've experienced. - I've experienced it, I've experienced it, but. - Yeah, I double. - Yeah, I double. - But. - I double in fighting. - I think I've said this on the show, on this show before. I think if the comments is like middle school or high school where it's like, oh, I don't go here anymore. You know what I mean? - I like that. - But I, which is not to say that like, you're in a different sort of like, it's like a different tier. It's just a different like, it's not where I belong. - And it's not. - You don't belong there, you know what I mean? - Yeah, it doesn't fuel your creativity. It doesn't foster an artistic spirit, you know? And a lot of times too, what you see people say, you're like, but the things that you are talking about are things that the people, let's say you're a huge fan of, of Mariah Carey. Mariah Carey's not sitting there being like, yeah. I'm so glad that person talk shit about another artist for me. - Exactly. - You know, she's like, no, we don't do that here because we foster the spirit of creativity in this realm. So it's so funny because they always think that by tearing down people or whatever, that they're doing some sort of justice. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But meanwhile, it's like very much not the thing. - I mean, between Broadway and Bravo or just reality at large, it's like, they're different registers of the same song or music, right? It's like, it's people with strong opinions, really just competing for volume or something, or just like, it's just something about the comment culture of it being like, well, no, this is what is right and this is what is just, and it's like, well, there are just these a million different things that like cannot be brought to the service for whatever reason. - Yes. - And so, I just find it so, I just think that the beautiful sort of arrangement of your life and career is that like, it's about performance and even in Connie France, it's about like, it's about the performance of the self, of the self, but I feel like on Love Island, you even have this amazing thing now where it's like, you get to sort of oversee how other people are performing themselves as people are watching them, as they're getting feedback in real time. - Yeah, and that's why I feel like too when the show is, when Love Island is airing, I always, every time I have press or something, I always try to reiterate that these are human people. - Yeah, that's, yeah. - These are people who are put in a situation that is totally different to anything else and there are two. doing their best and like we can not be dogging on them that hard like the way people do and yet I feel like it is the most viral show that exists because of that and it I remember so I watched like it's it's a lot of episodes so I watched like the first like six or seven and then in the middle I think I was working so I kind of dropped out and then I watched like the last five or six and my opinion was I don't know why people don't like Zach I don't get it like Zach and Kate it seemed like a jam to me seems like maybe she like I feel like dude does the audience not like her I'm wondering and people were the way the response I got was so crazy and it meant I'm about a million other things and I'm like oh right people are literally parasocially not just attached but living alongside these people several days a week well and even like months after the season is ended yeah Zach, Kate, all these islanders who maybe they had something their their reasoning was probably having to do with Trinity and Bryce and all of that but Trinity and Bryce and Zach and Kate are they're good yeah they love each other their friends so it's like why can't the fans also just let them work that out and not be attacking even for you to say like what's going on what's the deal like they're cool so why can't everyone else just kind of be cool yeah response to their response right so like inflamed or something that is well it then became like it's like I think that what because there was like a controversy about like the guys seeming red-pilled right yes which with the Gen Z of it all right I feel like is a concern as these the fine line yeah because that what I see online is a lot of these younger guys are yes red-pilled not just any of our islanders are at all I'm just saying like I've seen it so I I get the concern of like the red-pillification of Gen Z the purity culture and how men treat women yeah yeah yeah so I get the concern um but they're in the villa there's no way to ask them right exactly there's no way to be like hey yeah what and because there is no moment in the show at all and I think that probably there shouldn't be where people are like so just so you know this is like are they they sort of get some feedback when there's certain challenges or certain votes that are like what who's your favorite and all of a sudden someone's in the bottom that you are confused yeah but they can't they can't speak to what the reaction is that may be earning them that placement so then it's just they're spinning their wheels it's kind of fascinating you see them spin their wheels about what it could be and then they end up treating their partner weirdly because of it yeah which is honestly it's a way to prepare them for what's gonna come after yes because people might say something you see some things online and you're like oh they might be like your boyfriend has weird a weird eyebrow and you're like I never thought that and then you're like does my boyfriend are weird eyebrow and then it comes like some sort of complex and then the relationship gets weird because someone on the internet said your boyfriend are weird eyebrow yeah and now all I can see is that maybe your eyebrow is weird yeah or is it that I can't see what's real you know it's like a twilight zone it's a twilight zone yeah love island is the twilight yes yes and you are Rod surling hotty love that is Rod surling Rod surling you are generations Rod we need to make the love island tower of terror so that you can host that oh my god what a dream you know of Orlando speaking of now tell us about the origins of like being an Orlando girly do you still have to be a little secretive because like we did a show in Orlando a few years ago and like there were like Disney princesses working Disney princesses in the audience and we were like asking them doing crowd work I guess about the job and they were like we can't tell you well I you know I assume you don't have younger listeners certainly not if we do I'm so nervous like the way we talk about like gay sex on this podcast I just hope that someone is holding their hand through it I hope you have a good parent well we always would say like friends of or friends with oh yeah your friends with aerial your friends with Mickey or your friends with whoever it is that you but now who were you friends with I was friends with chip and Dale I was friends with Winnie the poo I was friends with King Louis stop from jungle book I was friends with um that means your friend was in the suit yes she was no I know I know I know try not to implicate oh yeah yeah yeah sorry I got nervous I was friends with Cinderella friends with sleeping beauty and friends with Ariel wow great roster did you did what did your friend Ariel look stunning in the red wig yeah the volume on those bangs baby oh yeah what do they have you saying part of your world of course well no I just no singing no singing just taking pictures great specific poses did you do autograph books at the time autograph books they were very popular yeah do they not do that anymore you don't really see them around I think it's just selfie culture in the picture culture is probably a thing because autograph culture is kind of over it's true you know except for stage or sit playbills I brought mine you better sign oh my god of course well I will I do want to return to yeah yes yes but um do you love the stage door you kind of like I do the only time I don't do it is I usually don't do it after the matinee on a two-show day because I just stay back and I like order food and I usually take a nap yeah um but I I always I usually do it yeah I'm the same I I I was really ambitious my first week I was like I'm doing every single one and the matinee ones are and it is sad it I am like I the right thing to do yeah just for everybody is just to like recharge and be okay for the next show well because then I think about the how much time there is between shows and um just if you cut back that finished time from the matinee then the time well and for you especially for I'm just thinking for everybody there's not much time it's like you lose like what yeah because you have to eat four or five minutes yep um yeah there's the whole lot but yeah I usually do I do like to do it I like it too I thought I was like and there were some marries who wanted you between fun stuff I've been doing a legacy of marries yeah so yeah so having should make up the place tell me about the stage door legacy will we try it just do it you should do something oh my yeah people would flip if you did anything resembling like a love island game or you know what I mean like that circle in the stage doors hello stage doors like I think I just I everyone just asked me a question and people don't do it all the time but there's like there has to be a group question mag would do like mag would do like full on sketches like and then at a certain point I will reveal like the the theater management had to be like this is causing a lot of commotion in chaos and it's just a lot of logistics that have to be like thought about security yeah and then everyone has to get into costume and like it's it was it was a thing and so then she very um regrettably had to stop that but um but no there's no like I'm just out there and the vibes are good and people are like I'm sure you got this people are like I flew all the way from like yeah like the Philippines to come see or whatever it's so exciting when someone says it's their first Broadway show that's the coolest because I remember my first yeah I think my first was um Mamamia a classic yeah at the Wintergarden you knew the theater of course that's that's like yeah that's lore that's lore that's lore mine was hairspray also at the Wintergarden no really no no no never mind I mean I remember the theater being huge I remember it feeling so big that was another thing what's and then you open your mind up to like how different everything can be and I just love like I just recently went to go see school girls it was so phenomenal okay great yeah like and there's so much good stuff out there obviously it's like incredibly expensive so I always add like advocate for you know like the TKTS line and like you know the ways that there's there are ways in which you can find yeah we used to do student rush shame and we used to do like we saw spring awakening right after previews yep but we camped out outside the theater there's Neil Simon theater for at like five a.m. we got there but we got those fucking to see the original cast yeah wow yeah and then we staged our it and we got pictures and with everyone and like with Darren no this was uh Jonathan Gross Lee Michelle really Cooper I meant yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's beautiful circle that that now you're in just in time yes yeah yeah one we're degrees of separation are I know I know I know windling dwindling yeah I fear meeting him one day because I had a public crush on him but so it's so did a lot of people but that's I think that's universal yeah I think it doesn't have a crush I would I I I mentioned we were doing hot ones versus and there was one thing where it was like um okay say who say you have a shot say you have a cool you have a crush on our e to death wing and the wings are really hot are they know I've always wanted to I've never done it honestly you know what you you and Whitney should do it when she gets in the show oh my god so but like I was like I don't want to eat this I was like fine it's Jonathan Gross and then that week I was guest hosting the today show with with Jana. and she is not someone who can, how do I put this, stop talking about things that are a bit sensitive. 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Then, sentient object romance expert, Racy Delgado, takes us even deeper into the genre. Finally, I assign Tyler some homework to read "C.M. Nascosta" as morning glory milking farm. And it's a doozy, but spoiler alert, Tyler emerges ready for more monster tales, because sometimes non-human romances can tell us the most about our desire, our fantasies, and what we actually want. Listen to Radio 831, a romance podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - Okay, Orlando. - Orlando. - Oh, yes, Orlando. - Tell us what it's like being in a big old, or your friend being in a big old suit, in Florida weather. - Oh, it depends on the suit, and it depends on where you're placed. - Got it. - Winnie the Pooh was indoors. - Okay. - So that was fab, that was great, except because of the costume, getting punched in the stomach is not rare. - The people who don't do that? - The children. - Oh, the kids. - But most of them are very sweet. Sometimes, they get excited, and he's got a big nut. - And you can't even glare at the parents 'cause you're in the suit. You're just like Winnie the Pooh. I mean, that mean your friend is. - Yeah, my friend is. - The worst is when you have to be out, when you're outside in Orlando weather. - And he has a Florida girl, it's tough for you. - Yeah, even as a Florida girl. It's still very, there's one where the head is very small, or was very small, so it required someone else, like assistance, or like, you know, and it was just a little claustrophobic, I would say. That one was the worst. That's the little drunk kitty cat from Pinocchio. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Wait, that's, but that's a Gideon's an icon. - He is an icon. - But he's drunk? - He's drunk, apparently. And he has like, the long, like, the Ariana Grande Sleeves. - So, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, he's actually a vibe I had considered. - Intense. King Louie feet are very intense. - King Louie. - And King Louie arms are very intense, because your arms are this long, but we're bringing in tan arms, are so there's like an extending situation, it's heavy, and. - So, they're not thinking about the person's personal vibe at all, they're just saying you're King Louie today. - I mean, yeah, like, you have a schedule. - Right. - There's a schedule. - But this has been you were in college? - This is when I was in college, yeah. - So then you're at the tender age of like 1920. - Yeah, and I was like, it was so exciting to be part of something that was so big, like so much bigger than anyone person can ever be. - Yeah. - Because if you are hanging out with Cinderella, - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So Cinderella is bigger than Beyonce. - Yeah, she is. - She's multi-generation. - In that environment, yeah. Cinderella was a one-name queen before Beyonce. - Exactly. - That's a real culture number 55. - Cinderella was a one-name queen before Beyonce. (laughing) - Minonimously known as Cinderella. (laughing) - Well, yeah, what's. Well, Ariel also doesn't have a. Ariel, no, Triton. - St. George. - Ariel St. George. - Her last name is St. George. - Yeah. - Ariel St. George. - Between princess Ariel St. George. - Between the three girls that you were friends with, who was the best friend? - Aurora, sleeping beauty was the best friend. - Period. - She does such, like, she does not have to get the credit. - She really doesn't. She's so underrated. I find her ethereal. - Yeah. - Her just sing through the woods, love her. - Yeah. - Something about, and I will say, and this is not a knock on Aurora. She spends half the movie of sleep. And we still love her. Still iconic. - She doesn't have to be an active protagonist at all. - Mm-hmm. - She's kind of made it. - And she is the best. - That's kind of the way to go. - Kind of the way to go. - She is the best enemy. Maleficent. - Yeah, Maleficent is, like, Hanik, like. - Maleficent, a queen. - Literally. And it also a dragon. - And also a dragon. - She's a queen. - She's a dragon. - She is the moment. Now, come on now. - She's getting a rollercoaster too. Do you hear about that? - Is she? - They're adding villains land to the Magic Kingdom. - Well, what are they taking over to make that? - So, they've taken out, wow, this is big, Orlando news. I can't believe I'm breaking this. - It's scared about what you're about to say. - They're taking out all of the rivers of America. They are replacing it with cars. It's called Ridge Run Rally. I think it's like a cars attraction. That is like a national park to try to keep the vibe. And behind that, and Big Thunder, is villains land. Which is going to be, basically, it's. I think the theme is someone cast an evil wish in a wishing well, and it broke open a zone for all of the Disney villains. And there are two attractions. There is one Maleficent Rollercoaster, which apparently is gonna be more intense than they've tried. - That's cool. - And there's going to be. to be a magic mirror dark ride, like where you go through the portals and the realm of the magic mirror and you have interactions with all the Disney villains. That's pretty cool. I think it's kind of good. I guess I just get so annoyed when they take out old things. Which I understand to keep up with the times and the new movies and the things I get it. But I know that they took out Tune Town. Oh yeah. Tune Town is you can still see it in Disneyland. Yeah, I just miss when we were kids we could go to, you could go to Mickey's house. I know. And you could walk around Mickey's house and I thought that was the coolest thing ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been to Mickey's house. They're not taking out Big Thunder, are they? No. Big Thunder stands, in fact, it's just gonna refer. That was my first ever ride, as a kid. That was the one. That was the one. I still love it. It still hits. Yeah. It definitely hits. And it's all heard. Absolutely. He's not, we've not been to Disney World or in Orlando or actually, or Disneyland. We've been to Universal together for Halloween Horror Nights. Your company woman. I'm in the company. Yes. I'm in the company. We all, like NBC, you has been good to us. NBC, you. They rolled out that FIC for you and they got you the knob. Yeah, hey. Well, you got yourself the knob. Hey, man. Hey. Hey. How did that feel getting the Emmy nomination? Oh my God. That was crazy. Did you expect it? No. I thought if anything, the show would get. Yeah. Sure. But, you know, it's tough. You know, it's not easy to get the FIC off the ground. Right. Yeah. So, you know, you kind of, there's a lot of people that need to be convinced to like, want to spend money on a billboard. Yeah. To even, so them, like to convince them of the merits of the show. Yeah. So, you know, that took some time to get that there. And then once that happened, and once that nomination happened, I just thought, like, I thought the show is going to get it, but I just thought, like, guys, look, see, like if we tell them that about what we're doing here, people might vote, you know, so. I just will say that I do tune into love Island for you. I really do. And the thing is you walking is so major. It's a moment of culture. It's television history. It's just the shots of you walking are really important to walking, glancing, the medium of television. Truly. Yeah. How many takes do you get? We do like six different angles. Fab. So we do, you know, close up, wide, close up, wide, side, and then we usually do like a, yeah, like there's like six different sort of fun new angle. This is a shot list. Yeah. This is shot list. Yeah. My nails are really cool. Let's get like a detail. Yeah. Something like that. In slow-mo looks great because it's just. You've also mastered how to do, because it is like it's a thing where it's like, especially like, because obviously you started doing like, you know, musical theater and obviously like, you did a bit of like sketch comedy back in the day. Sketch comedy. You even took it seriously. Absolutely. Absolutely. But like also all that stuff, but it's still you've mastered how to play that walk where it's like, there's like a touch of camp to it, but it's also in the tone. And you know what it is, but it's so hard, facially, because one little thing you could be giving to a much and the word of fate worse than death would be to be caught giving to a much. In a slow-mo? Yeah. In a slow-mo. With like one eye. Yeah. Well, you know what taught me that is the slow-mo intros for Vanderpump. Wow. Because those are actually shot super, super fast. Yeah, with a drone, right? You know, well, with a drone with the later seasons earlier, it would be almost like a glam bot. Right, right. Where the camera moves super fast. And if you go one, two, three, go. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The more the throwings. Yeah. So then it was like, you know, they would have two or three people in the shot. And they had to make sure no one's blinking because if one person's blinking, it goes so fast that your just your eyes are actually closed or, you know, you're like, it's actually, there's no time. Sure. Hair in face. Like, the producers decide that one person they don't like that you're like, oh, sorry, this was our best take. No, sometimes you're like, guys, that was, there's no way that was my best take. That was fucking shady as hell. Like, I see you. Yeah. And I, yeah. I see you every day in fact. And I know what you've done. I know what you've done. I will say, I do take it personally when they, especially for those, what do you call them like the, the beautiful walks, what do they call those? What's the term? There's like a professional term for like, when the beauty shot, what do they call it in this shot list? Uh, we'd call it, um, for promo, let's say, yeah, like key art or like, but like just like the foot, like the slow mo footage of like a walk like we've done it a couple of times for culture awards. And yes, it's the thing that gives me the most speaking of beta blockers. I should take one before those because I, I do notice that you get stressed out at that stuff. I spin out at anything that has to do with like looking sexy and cute and glamorous. I'm like, well, because looking sexy face is so hard. One wrong move and your toast, which is why I think you've, yes, you have mastered this and that is commendable and that is like Emmy worthy to me. Yeah. Thank you. And I do, I've known this for a long time, but just like you really do like, you've had all sectors of entertainment in the most meaningful, like down to being in a fucking money to puse suit. You've done it all. Thank you. Like when you say, like, I think you should know it's, it's crazy. I think the, the variety of things on my resume is kind of wild, but it's one of those things that started is, you know, when you start out, you know, you, oh, when you're a kid, you want to be on stage or you want to be in movies or whatever it is. Like we all had our big dreams. And then you go, okay, I know, no one. I have no money. And what now what? How do you, okay, I'll go to school for it. And then you go to school and then you go, okay, well now what? Yeah. So then you just start doing all these other random things. You take opportunities. And Sarah Schneider. Yes. Love my dear. Yeah. She, I remember one time we were shooting a college humor video and she was, I was talking about something I had done and she said, you have had, this was maybe 20 years ago. She said, you've had more jobs than anyone I've ever known. Every time I talk to you, there was, there was a new different job because it's just you take what's there so you can pay the bills. That's right. And then that ends up becoming a thing that somehow leads to another thing that leads to another very like odd job. Yeah. So it's crazy how all of the odd jobs and all of those things have added up into, you know, something bigger than that dropped into what is now created. Yeah. What, I guess, what is my career? Yeah. That's like, and I remember thinking, because we went, when we were in college like our friend Rachel Bloom, like kind of popped off with a comedy music video called Fuck Me Ray Bradberry. And so it kind of felt like, oh, that's going to be the thing. Let's make a comedy music video. And then you realize like, no, just because that was it for her does not mean it's going to be it for you. I think what ended up being our thing was a podcast. And it was never something I was going to miss. Yes. You probably never would have guessed reality. No. I never, never. I mean, the thing is, when it starts to be, well, you know what, I never would have thought, I never would have thought it was going to be my survival job, which was bartending. Well, yes. And then that becomes the reality show. Exactly. I never would have thought that, because I just learned how to do that because I was broken in York trying to do something that was taking, you know, with no connections, like trying to do whatever. And you make money doing it, real money. You make real money. And all of a sudden, now I can actually pay my rent. And if I want to take that dance class at Broadway dance, I don't have to work the ass to volunteer at the front desk to get a free class credit. Yeah. I can actually afford the class. Yeah. So then it becomes like this thing. And then for bartending, did then become the show, for then that to become the thing, to then that lead back almost like completely back around. Yeah. It's crazy. My next job, I'm going to go back to Disney. Let's go. Let's go. Honestly. I really take it all the way back. Well, no, they're looking for a new evil queen, I think. Hey. Yeah. I think they got the boots. Well, you know, when I do like the videos, do they still do the videos before the rides? Of course. My dream is the whole one. Well, and now we'll ask you this question. But so much of the culture that me and me say culture was for me, we're walking into those attractions and watching the story play out with like real actors that I recognize, like Felicia Rashad and the countdown to extinction ride, which then became dinosaur, like to this day, like Glenn Close is in the Guardians of the Galaxy, Cosmic Rewind ride. Like those were times when I was like, well, these are people creating a real experience for me to enjoy. And then you literally live it or survive whatever it is happening. And you move on to the next building where it's something else. I thought that was so cool. Yeah. Yeah. So cool. And you were a part of like creating that for, you know, young people who are literally wrapping their minds around the idea of their own imagination. Yeah. Wow. That's the way you just put those incredible. I think it's like more and people like to dog people that still, you know, want to be in touch with that part of themselves. But I don't think it's something that we should lose. No. I don't think you should ever lose. No. Never lose your sense of wonder. That's the fun. Glenn, well, that country got us. Glenn. I'm Hamza. And I'm Martin. And we're the hosts of Out of Character. It's a podcast. I know. There's a lot of them to listen to these days. How are you going to get to us? Well, there's a specific reason why you should listen to us. [BLANK_AUDIO] the best podcast in the entire world. I swear. I know, bold. But why don't we list some of the things we might talk about on a regular episode? So sometimes we'll talk about, I don't know, the Uber driver we just had. And how nice they were, or if we tip them or not, come and find out. Sometimes we'll talk about that weird news story from last week. It's the one you're thinking about, trust me. Or maybe we'll talk about music and what's happening in the underground or drama and music, or TV shows, or the Med Gala and what the actors wore. What we're saying is we're not afraid to talk about everything under the sun. And if you want to see what that's like, come join us. It's a place where everyone can hang out, anyone, wherever you're from, whatever you're like, you're welcome. Listen out of character from Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Pods, or wherever you get your podcasts. But more than a century, Miss America sold the country a fantasy. Well, are you ready, ladies? OK, here we go. But over the past decade, the crown's been slipping. They said, goodbye to swimsuits now. Hello to lawsuits. I'm Bridget Armstrong. Now I'm back with season two of this podcast, Curse of Miss America, investigating the rise, fall, and uncertain future of one of America's most iconic institutions. The Miss America pageant. I never received scholarship. I need to pay for my student loans. He looks at me and goes, you don't look like you suffered in the eating disorder. It's great, but looks too ethnic. It's a story the Miss America organization really doesn't want us to tell. An exploitation of our Miss Americas is treated by the Miss America organization as an attack on Miss America itself. Listen to the Curse of Miss America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. There are thousands of podcasts that can tell you how to better yourself. Get worse with Kyle Pru is not one of those podcasts. 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So join me, Sanjana Basker, and my co-host Tyler McCull, as we dive into the strange, horny, and wonderfully thoughtful world of falling for something not quite human. I give Tyler a crash course in Monster Romance, and the villain edit author, Rosie Dannan, joins to talk vampires, blood play, and finding tenderness in a monstrous love interest. Finally, I assign Tyler some homework to read CNN's cost as Morning Glory milking farm. Listen to Radio 831, a romance podcast on the IHR Radio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - Speaking of wonder, let's ask Ariana the question. - Yes, Ariana Maddox. What was the culture they made you say culture was for you? - It was Nick at night. - Come on! - It was Nick at night with the lineup with I Love Lucy, I Dream of Genie, Be With. - Yeah, we'll never get it back, isn't that so sad? - It's so sad. To this day, I will be, I follow I Love Lucy now on TikTok. - Yeah. - And I will be tackling the clips of I Love Lucy, even today, before I came here. - You did. - That was, those were the things that I think also exposed me as a kid to a time that, it was my grandmother's time, it was my mom's childhood. And everything moved so fast now that I just, we don't kids, kids these days, they don't get exposed to that, that stuff anymore. - The children have forgotten, because the children never learned. - I mean, where will we be without the Be With, which knows Twitch or, you know, I Dream of Genie, like in Cape Canaveral, Florida, shout out. - Let's go. - What would we be without that? That to me, like, made me want to be a part of things, - Yes. - The way that every single generation of my family tackled, watching something like I Love Lucy. - Yep, or across cultures, I remember being like, in this woman's basement, she, her name was Bernice. She was the same George, she was the pastor for all of the Chinese people in suburban Colorado. And I would just like hang out with the kids downstairs, and then some adults would join. We would just watch I Love Lucy marathons on Nick at night for like hours. And we'd be like, this is hilarious. Like transcending language. Nick at night is so much. And for me, moving from Canada to the US, not really learning knowing that much about English or American culture, like we just had on Nick at night at the hotel, while we were looking for houses in Colorado. And we would just, we would watch I Dream of Genie, and be wished. - Be wished. - And it was just a way to like learn about like, oh, these are like the values. This is, these are like the customs of America. For, you know, and all their weird eccentricities. But like, it was, it's educational. - Yeah, it's really, it feels like a time capsule now. - Yep. - But yeah, I've never, I still like, I can't even imagine what you were saying about how we're losing all of these things. The physical media is going away. - Mm-hmm. - And, you know, the books are being chopped up and things, but we're losing these things. - And now, you know what's, you know, what's probably next is probably you're gonna flip open your phone and like maybe someone would like AI, like a fake, you know, like I love Lucy episode that doesn't even exist, like, and you would never be able, or people would never be able to tell the difference because they don't know like the educational, like value that these things actually have. That's the, it's like sitcom, the birth of the sitcom. I mean, these things. - Yeah, and Lucy was the first person to really show pregnancy on television. - Yeah, yeah. - She was, I mean, she was such a pioneer for women in television, for television in general, in interracial relationship on television. That was like not being seen at the time. And, you know, she's like really pushed the culture forward in that regard. And so, I hope we don't lose these things. - I think that, like, well, honestly, all we can do is like keep mentioning them and speaking them into people's minds because, and literally, this is so funny you say that because about a month ago, I was on a flight and the woman next to me was watching the episode of Lucy where Lucy and Ethel are working at the chocolate factory. - Oh my God, I'm so sick. - And I was like, my God, Vivian Vance and Lucille Ball are just like so incredible and they were so, they were, their dynamic was so funny, the way that it was really like one take. - And the thing just keeps going and then they're in the shirt, in the map of my life. - And you also forget the next scene, they're so sick. Like, like, there's so many, I don't know. - And also V to fight a Vegem in. - V to fight a Vegem in. - I kinda want her to know that I'm appreciating what she's watching and I know it too because there is something about the lack of monoculture that makes you feel less connected to people. And so I felt connected to her, even watching her watch it. Isn't that odd? I was kinda just like, wow, like, that she could watch anything on that Delta menu and she picked this is like, to me, I was like, you're a good person. - Yeah, you get it. - You get it. - Are like, flight options, are like entertainment options on flights like one of the last frontiers we have to like unite the culture. - Honestly, remember when you said drop the screen down and everyone had to watch the same thing at the same time. - Crazy. - Yeah, that's how I watched Mission Impossible 2, starring Tendiway Newton. - Tendiway Newton is since that American flight because we all had to watch it. - Yeah, you had to, it was that was the movie, and Tom Cruise was the star. - There's no headphones, they're just playing it. - No, he's playing it, yeah. They're playing it and then the last TV show that I feel like jumped to syndication and then after that was on flights to me for me and my memory was 30 Rock. - 30 Rock episodes on a united flight for everyone to watch and like this is, and like, can you think of a show? - Maybe the adults right now, I don't know why because also everything is so politically polarized and that trickles down to me. culture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So people have this like, for example, like even like when I'll mention SNL to my relatives who are like, you know, I have a couple who are like hardcore trumpers. I can see them like start to frown. And they're like, well, you know, we love your friend, but we really don't watch that. They love me. They always love you. That's apolitical. Yeah. Living me is apolitical. That's actually culture number 10. Living going Yang is apolitical. But it is. And I feel like even even something with someone like Tina Fey is going to make some people be like wrinkle their nose at the lips, man. Yeah, the exactly. And it then becomes a whole thing where, and I do feel like it's interesting with pop culture right now because I have always said that in times of political hopelessness, when people feel like they try as hard as they can, but they can't be heard or they can't make a change or their material situation does not change financially. Things get worse and worse. I feel like what you do is you lash out at things that are more tangible to you or where you know someone will hear you. The things that are more frivolous and suddenly in order to make a change, you end up lashing out at this thing that was really merely there to entertain you or just an option even because we are so that it feels futile to actually do something about the man who just said that we should bomb lost that Iran should bomb Los Angeles, you know, and San Diego. Like when that is steering us in the face, you're just like, God, I hate Cata. They just go into, yeah, you know, it's sort of like, yeah, the other thing innocuous or like you said, things that are meant to entertain or bring people together become the punching bags. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Which is, I'm sure you know. Right. Oh, I know. We all know the varying degrees, but you, I think in a very particular and intense, a cute way, but yeah, it's like to go back to like, I love Lucy and Nick at night, it's like there was a block of entertainment that like could reliably be shared. Yeah, truly shared. Yeah. And now it's like, wow, but that being said, you're right. They did get heat for showing that she was pregnant. Yes, they did using the word. Yes, they did. Yeah, the word itself was like, they had to say, what was it expecting? Yeah, expecting. Yeah. And she, is that where expecting was born? I don't know. I don't know. That might be a fun cultural excavation. Like she's expecting. I love Lucy invented the term. It's like when you find out that a phrase like actually was created in like a very bizarre way. Yeah, you would never think. Yeah. I'm not saying that's what that is. I'm just conjecturing that it could be because it does sound like a way to say not pregnant. The euphemism to, yeah, to say like the store. The store. Yes, yes, yes. God, remember, people really, some fools really were too old to be believing the store. It's like, I'll give you Santa because people are working over time to make you believe. The store is like, bitch, you didn't get brought here by a, no, by a bird. It's, but Dumbo. But Dumbo. What? What are you friends with him too? What are you friends? Is that your friend? But Dumbo. Dumbo. Dumbo is so sad. So sad. Don't even get me started about me. That's a sad, sad movie. I refuse to watch it. It's quick. They're all quick. Have you have you no short? Lanking? 15 minutes. Yeah. Literally. One episode of Game of Thrones. Literally. Let her lay. Honestly, it's, it's, it's, well, also, do you remember just speaking about Nick at night, like, I don't know what if you were watching at this point, but they decided that, like, things from the 70s were now old. I do remember this. Three's company. Yes. And that's when it all went to shit because while I appreciate three companies, trust me. There's a time and a place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Nick at night, it's like when the, when the oldies radio station starts playing stuff from Britney Spears. I know. I can't believe it. This is meant for Motown. This is not. Literally. Thank God. Literally. 103.1. Yeah. Like what are you doing? Yeah. I forget what it was called, but it was like it was where you could reliably go to hear like Gladys night. Yeah. The temptations. Exactly. That's right. And then they started playing like I wanted that way. How did you know? I don't know. I don't know. Girl. But I mean, we're, we're, we're, I guess, we're fully developed adults, developed you expecting. Like what are we? Cooked. Cooked. I'm cooked. We're fully cooked. You know, the thing is like I, I feel bad for the people that don't know it even exists. And they used to have an I love Lucy tribute attraction at, at Universal Studios Florida in Orlando. And I wish that, I wish that Universal Studios would consider going back a little bit to like the BTS and behind the scenes and sort of like tributing the original valley properties. Well, because it's now it's like, you know, not to shade my girls. But it's a lot of minions. And they used to have a lot of minions. It's a lot of minions. There's two like minions attraction. They're in a home minions land. And obviously the minions have worked hard too when they've earned that. They have earned and they have a very difficult boss. They do. They work in an abusive toxic atmosphere. It's, it's giving factory. It's giving factory. It's giving it's sort of giving, you know, indentured. Yes. Like I feel like what's the, how do they get out of their situation? No, they're, they're neat. They need to unionize. Exactly. That's what. But, you know, they're going to be their voice. All they can say is banana. Facts. Facts. Well, you remember, remember, they used to have like a hitchcock attraction. They're used to be, they're used to be like this amazing Alfred Hitchcock thing. Yes. Well, like someone from the audience could be, Miss Molly from Psycho. Yeah, Janet Lee. Yes. And you could do that part. And they would show you like, I remember this is what we used to have. They have a good thing. Yeah. Yes. But the elements of showing BTS like the studio tour in, in Universal Studios Hollywood, it's never going anywhere. And it's still there. Yeah. They'd still, I love the studio tour. Yeah. It's, I always go. I think it's the coolest thing. Yeah. But they should lean into that. They should. Because I always find, even with shooting a show like Love Island or being on stage, I find the BTS of things. Yeah. So much more fascinating sometimes than even what's being like what is the actual product? For sure. Yeah. Because it's a world that so many people don't get into. Yeah. So without someone showing you like the tour or giving you the info, they're never going to know how are you meant to know. Yeah. It's like a secret world. Did you ever see a maybe happy ending? Yes. I got to go back. Darren invited us back after after that show. And we like the stage manager like walked us around the back. And that was such a, that is such a cool set. Super cool set. And even when I've gone backstage, obviously every time for Omari and even being back there and seeing like the little area where they're, where, you know, there's the quick changes. They're like, oh my god, that's where the dressing room is. Yes. Well, I met Bianca. Oh fat. Bianca Lee, the ledger. That's probably flea. Yeah. She's so amazing. And she was telling me that you guys have to get into your hoop skirts on the side. On the side. Yeah, we can't. We, we, we, we, we all, yeah, at places. It's so heavy. It's like 12 pounds, which is crazy because it's like that's a piece of information I found so interesting that I never would have thought. We got into it because we were talking about how freezing cold both of our theaters. Yeah, always a cold. It's so cold at the circle of the square. But the body heat of the audience kind of like sets it. It helps. It's a packed house. I think it evens out. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. But it can be frigid. And so I'm saying, you know, like I'll be in my dressing room. Why have most of act two to sit? Yeah, you're chilling. So I have, you know, like a heated blanket that I sit in. And then when I have to get dressed for eulogies, I'm like, no, because that's just that I've become so cold. Spoiler alert. People, people, there is some death in the show. Yeah, I'm so sorry. But don't worry, that's just, that's also just pop culture history. Yes. So educate yourself. Watch something tonight. Why don't you? Love Bobby DARREN back then. It is really funny sometimes because we know the story of Bobby DARREN and his amazing, like roller coaster of a life. Totally. And in the beginning of the show, obviously it's mentioned what his life and how it all comes together. But it is kind of, it is a little interesting how sometimes, you know, at the end of the show during eulogies, when he does inevitably pass, there will be sometimes gasps in the audience. And it's also when we told you about 90 minutes ago. It's also very like serious moment. And sometimes there was one, once where someone said, Oh, God. And I had to like really light the inside of my screen because like in circle with the square, one of the things I love about it is that the actors come right next to me. You're standing literally right there. And I'm like, Oh, God. And you're like, you're like literally sort of trying to still try and like serve the show. Every love song of every song. It's been for him. Oh, God. Someone, someone did, I forgot what part of a mirror, but someone, there was a woman who went, what? That's, I love that. I personally love it. You love it. I love a what? I love a what? I mean, what? It was cute and tall. I like it. - I think you've clicked, I've really clipped what. But, you know, what was I gonna say? Oh wait, I think they're gonna someday do like a retrospective on college humor sketches. You think? - Yeah, but that would be fun. - I think that's gonna eat for real. - But I wonder if like, is there some sort of, I don't think so. Like I'm like, is there some sort of like, underlying drama that I was not privy to? - At college humor, I think yes. - I think yes there was. Like the ending of the, the corporate stuff of it all. - That's what like spelled doom ultimately. - Yes. - I think that's a now plucked it like Sarah and Streeter. - Streeter? - Yeah. - I love that you know Streeter, that's so funny. - It's so funny, but yeah, the retrospective, I would be, I would pay to see that. - I'm just like, like there's got a naked night channel. I went to such a hard left, but I'm like, I always forget that you're a college humor person. - Yeah. - This is now ringing a bell because I wrote for the other two. - Yes. - And Sarah said one day, they were talking about Kristen Doty and she was like, I'm actually friends with Kristen. And I'm almost like, you're friends with Kristen Doty, which sounds crazy as a person on this side of the television. - When you're watching Kristen beak off in Kristen. You're like, you're friends with this person electively? She's like, yeah, she's actually great and so funny. - She's so nice. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, she is. - She just happens to be incredible on reality television, sorry about it. But she's doing her job well, which anyone in the industry, that's why there's so many industry fans of these shows. That's why like when Fraser and I were at a party, I look over across the party and Seth Rogan has Fraser in his arms like holding him like this. It's like, I think people really appreciate two things. How hard it is to be good and lasting at any job in this industry. - Oh very, yes. - And Q, that the thing about the public perceiving you is not easy and that is how the reality television and specifically Bravo traffics in specifically that. So I think that that's why you hear so many A-list stars. Like Julia Roberts going up to Garsell on a red carpet and being like, I have to set you up with my friends. Like that's because there's a real respect there for anyone surviving in Hollywood. So for sure, and like you said, to have steady work or to have a show that lasts past one, two seasons, that's insane at this point. It's very difficult to make that happen. And then to have, you know, people who are on reality TV or who work in reality TV or people who are someone like Julia Roberts, these are all still human stories. - Yes. - And I feel like that's why the two of them inspire each other, these two worlds so much. So that's why when I say like, in my acceptance, reality TV is not trash. - Yeah. - You know, some, there are people in this world who use reality star as a slur. - Right. - They don't use that term, like that. - They don't have this lack of humanity or respect towards people who do that job 'cause they also know how fucking hard it is. - It's really awesome. - A thousand percent. - Yeah. - Was there, were there people that stick out to you as people who have over the years just reached out? I mean, but specifically during when shit blew up. - Well, not a ton. Well, I also, it's so funny 'cause I remember back in the day people were like, "Oh my God, you must have so many people in your dams." I was like, "I have zero." - But not even that. (laughing) Just a few people reaching out being like, "Oh my God, I'm such a fan." - Oh my gosh. Well, I remember when Kesha said to me, - We love Kesha. - I love her so much. She's so cool. And then there's been like, well Seth Rogan and his wife, I came to our sandwich shop. They've been so nice. - Oh, they came? - Yeah, that was super cool. - How was the sandwich shop going? - Great. - Yeah. - It's definitely been, I have to go. - Please come. - When I was in L.A. sort of my tail end of being there was when you guys were opening. And I had been like DMing with Katie about it 'cause she was there with her mom. And I was like, "I feel like I don't want to cut "everybody in line." I was like, "I'll come back another day." - And at that time, it was madness. - It was down the street, it was crazy. - Things are more steady now. - Love. - So I would definitely say, "Come anytime." - Yeah. - So now that it's steady, which sandwich has popped off as the one that's the most popular? - Honestly, I think it's the Reese, it's super popular. That's the one with the balsamic. - Yeah. - And you can always add prosciutto comes as-- - Yeah, I remember you saying you suggested to add prosciutto. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Love. That sounds really good. - Yeah. - And I love that the Reese-- - And the Nancy's super popular. That's kind of like our elevated BLT. - Yeah. - I am. - There is a diam. - Okay, I bet that one was selling out too. - Yeah, that's actually my favorite to turn into a salad. - Ooh. - Because you can make any of our sandwiches a salad as well. - Fabulous. - If you're just like, "Oh, I don't want the bread." - They'll do a salad for you. - Yeah. - Oh, I love that. - That's what my favorite is turning into a salad. - Oh, I love that. - What's in the diam? - It's tuna salad. - I mean, that's fine. - But we do tuna salad without doing like mayo. It's no mayo. - Okay, yeah. - So it's light. - Yes, it's incredible. - It's very awesome to take on the tuna salad, she doesn't use, she doesn't use a lot of mayo. - I have always been, I have always actually used as a substitute for mayo and my tuna. I kind of like dejan mustard. That's what people do. - Ooh, yeah. - Love, love. I love a spicy mustard. - I'm such a mustard person. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were you always? 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You can now watch it on YouTube.com. - Another platform. - I got something, I got something today. - Okay. - Is Matt Rodgers is, I don't think so honey, premeditated, and his time starts now. - I don't think so honey, these four words. Mark Zuckerberg's style evolution. - No. - We're not talking about this. Basically, I'll tell you what his style evolution is so we can end the conversation. He started buying expensive t-shirts that fit him well. He almost certainly wears them all once, and throws them out and buys another one. Certainly he's a wasteful person. I am not going to sit here and start calling him an icon when Harry Styles is giving you a different outfit every single day. - 30 seconds. - Wouldn't we all rather talk about this? I'd rather look at old pictures of Timothy Chalamet than, 'cause he's not on a press tour right now, which is odd for him actually. There's so many Alfa's talk about like, let's look at the style evolution of all these people. - 15 seconds. - In fact, let's leave all the tech bros out of it, and vanity fair, I have a little bit of a problem with you. Because the sort of like Sam Altman cover story is, and I don't think so, honey. - The way I have to stop making these people. Shooting them in good light and making them look like style icons. They do not need that, and we certainly don't need that. I don't think so, honey. - And that's one minute. Fabulous. - So that's what I would say about anyone looking up to Mark Zuckerberg aesthetically. No matter what publication is telling you, this is a fine and cool thing to do. Like, and it's a chic thing to notice. It's not. - It's all the aesthetics of it being appealing. It's like, it's very intentional that like, Kylie Jenner's wearing the meta-glasses. It's like, these were not cool, and they still aren't. - They're still not cool. - But it's like. - It's a surveillance state. - Yeah. What are we doing? - What are we doing? - You can't, don't try to make it cool. - Exactly. But like, it's like, I think with Mark Zuckerberg, it is what we call here a flat narrative. He didn't start out. I mean, the evolution is a flat line. He does not look good or nor has the ever. I'm sorry. - I literally saw it in like an actual reputable magazine that discusses like fashion and culture, and I was like, wow, the brain rod is truly, well, shocker coming from the top. - That's a PR by, like, that's like someone on his team. - It's just like, it's hope, so. - Also, yeah, I saw, Levine Australia just used AI for you. - Well, I did a clip. So I shot, they asked, will you shoot this clip? And I was like, of course, I love Sophie and this cool, they're gonna use our villa. So I wore, I pulled one of the dresses that wasn't gonna get used on the show, and we shot this clip, I was wearing sunglasses 'cause that's when I had the style. - Oh, yeah. - That was one of my favorite looks, actually. - But it actually worked out. - It actually worked out. - It really worked out. So, yeah, I shot this clip, and the idea was like, I was like, why don't we do it? I throw the keys up. Camera follows the keys, and then when they shoot their side, they can just keys down to Sophie catch, and she starts. And that was what I thought was gonna be used. And then when I saw it, I was in a mini dress. First of all, my dress was a maxi dress. - Mm-hmm, thank you. - So the whole thing was like, a different thing. - They turned ready to your body, crazy. - Yeah, 'cause I was shot. It wasn't even shot full, but I think it was shot like, here I am. So they inserted the clip into, and then obviously, you saw all the other fake people, and then this, and then that. - Yeah. - So that was the whole thing. But yeah. - I remember. - Those are the uses of AI that we're fucking talking about. - Yeah, exactly. - Why are you doing that? - I mean, I regularly get sent reals where people are like, they're using your voice for this. Like, it'll just be my voice, like, advertising, like, a product and like an AI commercial. That's happened to me, like, probably seven or eight times. Because think about how much of our voice, think about how much of our-- - Like, we're all, everyone, like-- - Yeah. - And increasingly, everyone in the world is just giving up. - Mm-hmm. And you know, there's like scam calls with a call, and if you say, like, they can use, like, yeah, you say your name, you say one thing, and then they can use AI voice of, you know, your grandson, being like, how do I need money? - Whenever anyone calls you, and they ask, is this so-and-so? - Never say yes, never say yes. Always ask, who is calling, always ask, or you can say, this is he, or this is she, or, yes, this is them, and, but never say yes. Because they will literally use that in clip. That to have you-- - Just the yes. - Oh, and there are those scams are like really elaborate. - They're getting much and much better at it. - Yeah. - Like, leave us alone. - Yeah, leave us alone. - Scammers. - Leave us alone scammers. It's actually real a culture number four. - Do you have, and I don't think so, honey, today? - Yes. - Oh, I knew it. All right, well this, in that case, is Bowen Yang's, I don't think so, honey, his time starts now. - I don't think so, honey, uncrustables. I think let's take the stigma off of crusts. I think, what are we all children? I know uncrustables are for children, but actually, no, uncrustables are the naked knight of snacks and food. They are for everybody. I think kids should grow up in a world where that's, if you take the crusts off PB&J, then we just cuddle these people into infinity. And we cuddle ourselves as adults. They're selling uncrustables at the store, at the pharmacy. I pick some up at the store every now and then, and I go, well, I feel infantilized. And I don't want that for myself, because then I start to cuddle myself. And that, therefore, motivates you to use something like chat GBT. I'm not joking, bitch. There is a direct link between uncrustables and learn dependency and the tick over AI. I think we should really make life a little bit hard for ourselves, and that, therefore, the difficulty of being amongst other people should be ingrained into our society. - Yeah. (laughing) - I think that-- - Did you grow up being told that the crust is the healthiest part of the bread? - No, but that's lie two. That's a lie as well. - Well, no, the brown crust is definitely healthier than the white bread. - Yeah, see, there you go. There's more vitamins in it, I was told. - Whoa, that could, your mom is a legend. - It would be true. Honestly. - I still go with that. I support this. I think crust, justice for crusts. - Justice for crusts. I will never, I vow right here every pizza slice, I'm eating the crust. - Yeah. - And I usually do. Sometimes also, if I'm a solidarity for crusts, if I'm not in the mood, I will leave it alone, but now I think going forward, I will eat every crust. - Yeah. - I love crusts. And I also think that crusts are adversity. And when you take off the crust, what you're really saying is, I don't want to deal with the hard things. - I don't want to be challenged. - You're saying I would rather just have what I want, and what's gonna be the easiest thing for me. - Chat your PT? - It is exactly that. - There you go. - Hold on my hand. - It's a pipeline. - The pipeline is strong, the pipeline is strong. And it's strong and real. Are you ready for your, I don't think so, honey? - I think I'm ready. - Okay, you think about it. - Mine is a little bit, I did have options. I do have options. - You spoke on that. - I did have kind of three that I was jostling between. - And now you feel you've landed. - I think honestly, I'm just gonna go with my gut and go with the one that really affects my life the most. - All right, this is Ariana Maddox's, I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. - I don't think so, honey, anxiety. - Oh no. - Because why am I getting ready to come sit on a sofa and talk with my lovely friends and I have a tummy ache for hours? Why am I getting ready to step on a stage and do one of my favorite things to do in the world and I'm crying and sobbing and having panic attacks. I'm shaking and my heart is beating at 300 beats per minute. - Fuck that. - Fuck anxiety. I don't think so, honey, anxiety. Because why am I walking around in normal day to day life, doing things I've always wanted to do with my life with the nervous system of someone who's being hunted for sport. - Yes. - Why am I screaming, crying, throwing up every day at just living normal life? Oh, I have a plan tomorrow. Oh, sure, why don't I just stay up all night thinking about it and scrolling on my phone looking for techniques to help with the anxiety. Guess what, I never go back to the techniques 'cause I just keep having the anxiety. - Five seconds. - And you know what, that's why I don't think so, honey, anxiety because you're trying to ruin my life and I'm fucking tired of it. - There we go, that's one minute. Anxiety just really has to think about that one. - It has to. - Yeah, take a second, think about it, anxiety. - I wanna ask you a question that is personal, but I don't think that I'm honest about it and so is Bo. Are you on any anti-depressants or anything like that? - No, I used to be on an SSRI, but in the day, but I felt that it made me even sleepier. - Okay. - And I was like, I can't deal with that. I passed the initial sort of two, three weeks. - Yeah, I was in an honor for about two months. And then I just said, I don't know, and then I thought, well, I should try to find one that does work for me. But I couldn't the trial and error process. Yeah, I just, at that time, I couldn't. So, I'm still, I'm not against the idea, but I felt that it really just made me sleepy. - Yes. - And made my eyes feel really like, like heavy. Yeah, that might not be I would say because I have I have very similar stuff like you've always been very honest I have to literally before I go to the like go out like part of my warm vocal warm-up is to like hardcore massage my stomach Because this is locked up all the time with just constant Anxious stomach second brain. Second brain. I think that like I Can absolutely relate to it feeling frustrating when one thing just doesn't work And then you feel like almost like you've lost that time or not even that you've lost that time But that time was actually worse than it was before because now you're anxious about the fact that it didn't work It is like a vicious cycle What when I finally found what worked for me which is five milligrams of exopro and beta blockers whenever I want quite frankly I'm just living such a happier life, so I can tell you that like as frustrating as it is It did work for me that and I hate seeing people that have no reason to feel that way Feeling that way because you're so great in the show. You bring you so much like Vivid personality to everything that you do like there's a reason why you are in the positions that you're in Thank you really the imposter syndrome is real, so I really appreciate you saying that And yeah, I I want to get to a point where I do find my my forever thing Yeah, because I want to be able to like live freely and try things and feel like I'm Living presently and in the moment and not locked into it And I just honestly it is the most annoying frustrating thing to deal with because you're like if this would just go away Yes, it's almost even more frustrating when it does go away because you realize how Long you've been living with it And I will say as far as like the theater it goes because I am relating to this on that level certainly where it's like The reason why it's so anxiety inducing is the same reason why it's so wonderful as because it is like the most immediate kind of Performance there is right. It's like so instantly gratifying for people in the audience for you as a performer Like I think it which it's like it's sort of horseshoes back around to like why it's so fucking paralyzing Yeah, and we care we all care so much about what I'm like thinking about, you know, you saying on stage a lot and I feel like yeah, this this feeling of like we care about What's coming out and then like the physical aspect of your body's like fighting you Yeah, you know what I honestly like I Endeavor to start using beta blockers like the last time I went on tour and I certainly will use them this year I loved walking out on stage and just being able to tell myself in the quieter That everyone is here because they want to see me do well. They expect me to do well I can do it well or else I wouldn't be here and There's no one rooting against me. It's just this thing. I'm telling myself because I'm letting my wheel spin You know and for me it actually was much more social like when I was living in LA I'll never forget it my friend I had a like a sort of like a acquaintance friend But he invited me to his birthday party and he's like a really like hot popular guy I drove around the block ten times Until our friend Joel Kembouster got there first so I could walk in and know that I would know someone and that's not normal And that was like when I was like I'm gonna start therapy and like because it shows up in all different ways like for sure And that stuff that's the type of thing I would do yeah Like yeah, it's like it's it's like yeah, I can relate to that. Oh, I don't know anyone here. Yeah, let me just Walk around the block a few times. Yeah, literally like someone's gonna be here Yeah, and then and then it's so frustrating when you finally get there And everyone's like hey and it's like and then you're fine and I was like Why didn't I almost have a heart attack for an hour? No literally like I could have wasted so much less time Yeah with my life I could my mind could have been occupied on things that I actually really care about yeah, and not that Yeah, you know, yeah, but no, I and I've always appreciated that you've been really honest about that stuff. Well, thank you It's sometimes it's I saw Lily Reinhardt talking about how you know She's spoken openly about depression and things and then she said After speaking about it, you know, then some people were almost like labeling her as like the depression Actress and then she it made her feel like she didn't Not regret talking about it, but she had feelings about okay, put this out there and a lot of people related And some people kind of put me in this box of being that being who I am. Yeah, she's like I'm so many other things and you know We're so many other things then then these anxious thoughts or whatever, but it's it's annoying when those things When I like take over exactly and then get pen naughty, but I mean like yeah, but what we're saying like And I'm sure you're hearing this and receiving this. It's like you've literally done it all Yeah, that's crazy. You've done it all no, but like disagree like like can you push back against? No, it's like you can't disagree You can't argue against that. It's like you've done everything in entertainment. Yeah, like oh my god I'm so excited for this a lot. Yeah, it's crazy. The future housewives things is so I'm so excited for that Yeah, I'll tell you guys how it came about because I had you know As you guys know you when you meet with production companies and networks and things when you're in that phase of life We're doing meetings. Yeah We have some meetings. We'll get some meetings And one of my meetings was with Fuzzy door and we we were talking about all kinds of things and Brandon Braga who is on this project he basically he was like I'd love to chat with you about this idea I have and You know he's done Star Trek and Cosmos and I was like oh my god. I'm a huge fan of the shows that he's created He's working, you know orville and all of that Because I always loved so I've always loved sci-fi You're a Carl Sagan girl. Yeah, when I was little like my dad loved that stuff and I grew up in the space coast of Florida So it was always fascinating by like going to space and and all of that and so it was such a cool thing Then my dad and I would watch like the star Trek shows and things like that. So I was really excited to chat with him And he kind of had this concept for this show because while he's created all these sci-fi shows He's a huge reality TV fan industry fans. Yeah, so we had this crazy amazing. He's like I want to do this show, but I How do I bridge these two worlds of sci-fi and reality TV? And so that was kind of what we're that's kind of what we're doing with this show That's cool. Um, so I'm really excited about it Yeah, that's gonna be fun. Um, and then we you know, of course we went around we had the pitch and Worked out nailed it now that yes, and so I'm really excited to get going on it And I'm really excited about when we get to the casting process because There's not a lot of scripted TV for actresses that are over 50 who are maybe like 60 like and I am so excited to have an Ensemble cast of women that are yeah, you know, truly adults listen to yourself like you have You are occasioning that opportunity for other people like that's I'm very excited about it. No one's taking that away from you You have everybody's need to be excited same goes for you being on fucking Broadway again Same goes for you but like doing all these amazing things like you you like You're fucking not joined love you. Thank you. We love you so much. We're so happy you came by I'm I've been wanting to come by for forever I mean lesson thrilled to be here. We love you You can see her live in the flesh in fact very close to you if you're in that once part of the audience Because she'll give her eulogy spoiler alert right next to you over at Circle in the Square for just in time Which is really a fantastic show and I think actually if you're a fan of this podcast and you're a pop culture person Who maybe has Bobby Darian as a blind spot and that era of music as a blind spot and film yeah, you would know it But you also may be really interested to learn about the impacts that a lot of these people had and a lot of the way their lives intersected I remember I I left the audience feeling really enriched by it. Yeah, so it's it's really cool and the music is amazing and I always feel that way leaving Circle in the square Please oh yeah, so yeah, there we go. We'll every episode with a song. I Wish I knew Somewhere beyond the sea Somewhere waiting for me My love And what is the ship? 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